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March 27, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

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March 27, 2023, 12:25:38 PM
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Yes, that fear of harm is not wrong at all. Currently, scientists are working on artificial intelligence and developing AI applications for a variety of purposes, from manufacturing automation to medical and financial services. Some are still concerned that artificial intelligence could become a threat to humans in the future. The scientists also studied and presented a number of scenarios about the potential consequences of the development of AI, including issues of cybersecurity, the replacement of jobs by robots. Remember that this change is not a barrier, but we are gradually entering a new era when people control work more effectively.

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March 27, 2023, 12:34:47 PM
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there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity,

I think Elon musk is saying this in the way in economic purposes that AI are taking over the jobs and in capacity of human. He probably may be raising concerns about the jobs life like robots or humanoid robots do in place of human beings. These robots have in real time taken most employees out of job due to the growth in technology.

IMO I feel that business minded men like Elon musk and Bill gates should not bother themselves on what they have really enjoyed the advantage of. They prefer AI and humanoid robots in place of human beings to use them to cut cost in their businesses including production cost and why complain on a creation that you have chosen over human beings and the effects of which include unemployment and drop in GDP whose result is poverty.

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March 27, 2023, 12:39:38 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Let's just see if that's going to be a problem in the future. We have to remember that these AI are still programmed by human beings and I think we're just having too much of it based on the sci-fi futuristic movies where AIs became rebels and becomes dangerous to humanity.

If they're made for an upgraded productivity then that should be the focused of it to help us catch up with how our lives become easier. But I guess I do understand the worry of it, because it might literally make our lives easier (dark side).

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March 27, 2023, 12:49:03 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him.

We do we go from here?

That's correct; his thought was that if AI turns out to be on the dark side, the human race may be at risk.

AI imagine things most times that a human being may not imagine; Elon said "they think far beyond themselves." But I still believe there is no way AI can outright or override human; although they are machines built with some super technology, humans can still destroy what they create afterwards if they become too powerful. I just say what I think, though.

There's a proverb that says, "An okra plant doesn't outgrow the person who plants it; no matter how tall it grows, when the owner wants to harvest it, they still bend the stems down and harvest the okra."

If AI becomes a threat to humanity, the people who built it can destroy it.


That's the video where Elon speaks about the AI threat: https://youtu.be/Qj-iz6MByZg

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March 27, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
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A robot threatening Elon musk is almost fictional like really, a robot programmed to do the assigned task can threaten a person (Elon) on its own. That is not digestible. Because these things can improvise over time and there is no doubt about that and can think faster than the human mind as their processing speed is higher than humans. But the robot is a robot.

As big icons of tech industries like Bill Gates have mentioned in there some interviews, now is the era of AI which will change the way of thinking, learning, doing work and jobs, etc. So coming back to your question, life will really change as I am so dependent on AI tools for my courses that whenever I face a problem I ask Ai tools. Some times i think how i lived these years without it.

Yeah, then i realize i am depending on it which is not good for me. Overall, it will change the way we think, learn, act and perform along with harms to our minds. I dont understand if you taking the revolution of AI as dominant over humans like happens in sci-fi movies. "No" Robots will not rule the world (harm us) instead we will allow them to rules us. How? By depending on them so much that we cannot do any work without them.

On other hand AI technologies can maximize the harm rate of pre-existing military weapons but that's another level of discussion we should avoid doin here.

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March 27, 2023, 01:19:53 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

the development of ai is inevitable, ai will enter human life whether we like it or not,, it will be integrated with our various devices and we must be able to adapt to it .. what needs to be considered here is how we as users can take advantage of this ai to help us solve various problems such as completing simple jobs, etc. the point is we have to be wiser in using this technology
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March 27, 2023, 01:22:34 PM
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The programmer can just put rules for the AI.
1. Don't hurt humans
2. You can't overwrite rules, etc.

Something like that and the problem is solved. Elon is just smoking some weed before doing the interview.
Also, people should define "smart" before giving a bombastic statement like "AI can be smarter than us." Thus since AI is not that smart, it's not a good idea to delegate control to the AI, or at least, there should a mechanism to do a manual override.

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March 27, 2023, 02:37:39 PM
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I have used it to communicate with AI, and what I am impressed with is the quick and accurate response of some information. However, when going deeper, it is completely inaccurate and becomes fabricated, and the problem is to refer to the information, not treat it as a source of information. And when I got into the details of the ethics of AI, I received a response that left me both skeptical and fearful of the prospect of being dominated by machines. When in the development of AI, we all raise the issue of ethics in use, and I see not only this tool but every tool that helps people we need to uphold the ethical issue in our use.

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March 27, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

I watched a movie on Netflix I just forgot the title of that show where the story is about an AI robot.
The one who invented the AI robot was eventually killed by the Robot who created him. So what you are saying is that there
is a truth that AI robots do pose a threat to humans. And so is the human in AI.

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March 27, 2023, 03:03:32 PM
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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

Elon is now a believer of AI after he became the cofounder of the leading technology Chat GPT. There’s always an advantage and disadvantage on every cutting edge technology like the invention of Atomic bomb that stop the war but open up with a more dangerous was in the future.

The problem is not the AI technology but the greedy human that will use it in evil things. AI technology is very helpful to make our life easier by letting robot do our task so that we can focus on other task. I’m supporting this AI technology it’s use is greater than the potential risk which is currently a fictional.
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March 27, 2023, 03:30:12 PM
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All the technology you see today was once fiction. And I can say that the first machines issued were considered a threat to the equine transport profession, the presence of telephones was a threat to the carrier pigeon company. Did they stop? No, they're starting to transition.
Like it or not, you won't be able to get out and will unconsciously coexist. It will be a benefit or a disaster depending on which side you welcome any new technology.

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March 27, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
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It's worrisome but since AI is built by humans it is possible to create some manual shutdown to such technology, oh, I may be wrong, AI are very smart and they can notice this safe shutdown process and find a way to bypass it, I hope this won't happen and those building AI need to be very careful with what they feed AI, too much of information can be used against us.

If someone like Bill and Musk can feel this way about AI who am I to think otherwise?

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March 27, 2023, 03:43:47 PM
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The programmer can just put rules for the AI.
1. Don't hurt humans
2. You can't overwrite rules, etc.

Something like that and the problem is solved. Elon is just smoking some weed before doing the interview.
Also, people should define "smart" before giving a bombastic statement like "AI can be smarter than us." Thus since AI is not that smart, it's not a good idea to delegate control to the AI, or at least, there should a mechanism to do a manual override.

rule 1 is subjective.   the current AI like the heavily bias chat gpt is going to give you the wrong answers to rule 1. 
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March 27, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
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I don't think we're going to face the problems that AI can create any time soon. Right now it's a useful tool that simplifies our work but doesn't completely replace it until the final progress, I think we'll have to wait a long time.

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March 27, 2023, 03:50:50 PM
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If these individuals are concerned about AI and their destruction potential, why are they the main sponsors and enthusiasts of AI technology in the world? I believe they just fear something they can't control, and that is why they try to keep it under their control by developing it. However, as long as AI is controlled by them, it won't be an issue.

Where do we go from here?
We will continue on the same path we have been. Technology gets more advanced, AI becomes more popular and present in our daily life on different sectors of society, their developers get wealthy and influent, nothing really changes regards status for the average citizen.

Although technolgy advances, the structure of society remains the same.

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March 27, 2023, 03:51:04 PM
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Just a vague assumption I guess. No matter how intelligent technologies become, it is humans who made it and for sure that would be the main thing. Many people are threatened by this possibility without seeing how beneficial it would be. Advancements such as AI are meant to make our lives easier 'coz if not, why would professionals waste their time doing these technological progress. It would only be a bad thing if we would be dependent with these advancements, which is something we should deal with as individuals. I'm seeing a better future because of technologies and innovation. Why? 'coz we have to adapt with 'evolution'. Being left behind would be far worse from being replaced by these 'robots'. There are things these investions won't be able to do and you have to take it as an edge to se for a brighter future.

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March 27, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
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Most people will say that we should stop this, but right now, the status of AI is really progressive and unstoppable. Even Elon said in the interview that he is scared of AI and that the possibility that AI will get rid of us in the future is pretty high when they know everything, which he said is possible in the future but for sure we, the current generation, will not experience this; it will happen in the next few decades. This is really the future, as Elon stated, because, if we look on the bright side, AI will make our lives easy.
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They say Elon used to be an investor of that ChatGPT and then he suddenly changes his mind and opposed it after learning what it can do.  Quite an interesting story so I wonder how deeply they'd developed the AI that he actually decided to oppose it. If it's something like the Eagle Eye movie in which the AI decides for the future of humanity, then I guess it needs to be stopped.

It's enough already that robots took away the jobs of people. But I would sure depend on who holds the AI industry. Because if they are twisted, sure thing they will also develop twisted bots.

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There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

It's funny how both of the seeming pioneers in this realm (or at least the largest names whose companies are working on AI related products) both say that they are fearful of AI and its potential effect on humanity. If that's the case, then why are we even putting the energy into this creation, or why isn't more effort being put into policies, safeguard, research etc before it goes further? I believe that we should focus on mastering blockchain, something that empowers humans, instead of creating something that has the potential to become a threatening adversary. That's just me though.

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