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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck¹ as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to² display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

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1. http://bostonsportsextra.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-they-work/
2. http://web.archive.org/slot1.sbs/76959.html

I looks good like a idea but in reality it won't work. There is no serious casino which will take this in consideration when they don't have fixed margin of profit. Also as I have heard regulation around gambling are very strict so it will hard in general to implement this.

I am afraid these are old ones and you cannot find them anymore around and yes even so they are still programmed against players,in this case explicitly against human beings since some sort of skill is involved from the player when they get the bonus round,sounds like a good idea but I am assuming that these type of slots do not even come close to offering x30000-x300000 your bet.

That is why I prefer more the slot machines of our days despite me being born earlier than the 2000-s and is because the slot machines of today if we hit that x300000 for example,for most of us is a life changing event,much different than playing those sort of some skill based ones.

Well, nice article, but I had to check a bit more and everything got more sense after watching some videos on youtube. Basically, arcade games turned into gambling games... and I must say I like what I saw, some of those arcade games I played 30 years ago.

Learn what skill-based slots are and how they're different from luck-based slot machines. And look at what the best skill-based slots have to offer. (https://betandbeat.com/slots/types/skill-based-slots/) I would say a much better article, with the top 5 skill-based slots, reviews, and videos...

I didn't try it out, I'm not sure if there are any skill-based slots in Serbia in any casino (maybe in the capital). As I understand skill-based slots can be only played in land-based casinos, the first one is installed in Las Vegas. I will check if there are some online skill-based slots, especially available for playing with crypto.

Skill-based slots are more attractive now perhaps because they have far more interesting features than traditional based slots.
Skill-based slots also provide more advantages such as it is easy for players to get bonus spins or multipliers.
At every casino there are also some traditional slot games but not many play there, even they are far below the slot games that are currently popular.
More than 40% of gamblers are filled with teenagers or millennials, so it's no wonder these gamblers prefer the latest game features.

I've always wanted to try the traditional Slot actually, because it looks fun and can hang out with old gamblers who are used to the traditional slot, but I never had the chance to do it even now, maybe I should go to Macau China to play it or foreign country that provides the slot. But if you think about it, I will be easily found by anyone and surely there will be some people who will know me if I continue to do traditional slot gambling.
I currently prefer skill-based slots because they are easier and simpler to use and the most important thing for now is for me to be free to play gambling wherever I want.

I don't know if it's still a thing nowadays or maybe it has gone archaic. But from your first article link you provided in Op I read that the risk of losing in a skill based slot machine is reduced to minimal while winning odd is increased. I believe since the the chance of winning is high then it won't favour the casino it will only be an advantage to the gamblers and because of that most gambling site/casino wouldn't want to make it available (assuming it's still something that's common), I feel casino make more when gamblers lose their bets.

If someone could really think of a way to make the slot game "skill-based" rather than pure luck then I would applaud them. It's not like there's really something going on in slots. You just keep on rolling until you hit a certain line that could lead to a combo and then a probable jackpot.
How can that be skill based is kind of intriguing.
Well perhaps spending more money will be the key to it. Instead of a brand new roll, you could continue the game like those arcade games where you just need to drop another token to preserve the game, as long as you can see some reason that it could hit a jackpot.
But that would probably be abused by those who can afford it and it's going to be a massive gamble like a martingale strategy which might not become profitable unless you can cover the massive capital needed until you hit jackpot.

So this means that it multiplies your percentage of winning; let's say if you win in the bonus round, your percentage will be doubled or something like that. Well, it is good and it is an advantage to those who love slots since they can increase their chance of winning, but has this been implemented already, like what kind of bonus rounds we are now seeing? I am not a fan of slots, but I do sometimes play the traditional ones, and I would say it is very impossible to win.

I still don't understand how can a bonus round is classified as skill based? I think it's still purely on luck, but you're getting more chance to win because you spend more money until you get the bonus round. Is there any casino which have bonus round? I never experienced that, what I know is free spin and bonus buy feature. A slot which have bonus round is still luck based for me.

In order to understand what kind of slot machine you were referring to I had to check a Youtube video. Oh boy! This one would be more addictive than the old slot machine as you will always feel that you can beat the game. The one that I saw was the Brick Breaker game, it reminded me of a time when we used to play those games on our desktops. I wonder whether these skill-based slot games can be played online or not as they are basically arcade games.

I'll still prefer to get into the traditional ones but I know that changes are constant and there will be games like that which is like the revolutionized type of gambling for specific games like slots. It's new to me to see a slot that's skill-based. There are interesting thoughts made on that article and it's true that the era will come for this type. Everyone should check and read it out as it might be something interesting that you're also eager to know.

The article is very vague, doesn't mentioned how can you used your skills in a slot machine, and it just mentioned that you can only used it during bonus. If we can see clearer explanation as to what kind of machine it is then maybe we can say that we wanted to try it and see if yourself.

Although I have some kind of idea on how it is, still though, it's machine so not sure how you are going to defeat it, just saying.

You might increased your chances as compare to traditional luck base, but probably by just minute numbers.

I don't understand how you could pull this off as a casino. Especially online. In a live setting, that's one thing. But if a skill based player could beat the operator, then it's not a business model. And online, you could just bot whatever game they put on there with trivial ease.

Without knowing what this is, I'm almost sure that if you play, you are going to be exposed to variable house edge odds of say 90-96c depending on how skillful you are. So if you are more skillful you'll get 96c and if you are terrible you'll be 90c. Better to play slot machines online that are provably fair with a small house edge.

they will give consideration of course but not to the extent that they will let us win against them, and maybe they will give more chances to play but in the end? we will lose and the owner/team will win.
this is about money so who will let you take it from them? and this business is a major way of getting money now.

I really haven't tried it and just found out from what you said. We are obviously used to traditional slots and are familiar with how they work. But when there is some kind of innovation that was initiated by millennials regarding skill-based slots, it seems that everyone is quite familiar with how to work as a whole and provide a different game. Personally I am interested in trying it, but does this slot machine still refer to games only or has a special game.

To be honest, this is the first time that I have heard about skill based slot machines or games, although it seems to me that this is kinda lot some arcade games that I have seen already. Yeah, so why not? maybe test your skills and see if you can win or not.

But I haven't seen this kind of games in the casino that I frequented, so maybe in the future they will have to installed some of it to attract players. However, if our chances for this games are good then maybe it's going to be low priority for them as obviously it's a business and they want the RTP slot machines that give them the most profit.

The concept is something interesting and pretty new.
But I consider both types of slot machines the same risk mechanism in which it is very hard make profits even considering some skills. nothing really changed in my opinion, given that also in this case a very specific RTP is always provided.
you can have all the skills you want, but the machine will always have a specific payout....

This idea is entirely new for me. All of the slot games I know of are all based on luck. This is why you don't have to think thoroughly when playing it which makes ot popular among most players who don't like to complicate things and to think deeply. Although I'm really wondering how this will work and if it will be sustainable in the long run because of course, the edge will still be in favor of the house. Perhaps the skills will take part on how the player will play to determine the winning combinations and the like.

Casinos' online and offline profits are guaranteed with luck-based casinos compared to skill-based casinos, gamblers will be interested to play because it's new, but I doubt if the majority of casinos will integrate this skill-based slot it will cut their profits casinos make a lot of profit from their luck based games than their skill-based games which are sports betting, but let's see the technology is evolving if there are demands from the gambling community and casinos can find a way to make a profit we'll likely see this in online and offline casinos soon.

I have never tried it and don't even know what a skill based slot machine is like because as far as I know, slot games are just luck based. And if you are unlucky, you lose. But if something could offer the perks of getting a spin bonus like @OP said, I suspect some gamblers are willing to try it. Gamblers will always look for something new that can provide an opportunity to win from gambling because they have often experienced defeat. Since I didn't know the type of skill-based slot machine yet, I still favored the traditional slots found in online casinos.

Skill based on betting but still pure luck when it comes to the game itself. It is what it is; a slot player would really depend on one's luck and fate in order to come up with a win. I doubt that this would really be or hundred percent be a skill-based game . If players would be able to set strategies to win the game, that would already be a different game. I saw new gambling sites somehow creating or adding spice on traditional gambling games butif we would view it in a broader perspective, idea is still the same. And there is nothing wrong with it. As far as I observe, players are still more hooked up with the classic set up of slots than with the newer versions. Likewise with roulette, dice games and such.

I agree. This sort of thing in person may be a possibility but for online gambling I would think this sort of gambling would be impossible. If it was available, I’m sure people would immediately be developing bots that could win every time. That wouldn’t let a game like this last for long before the casino started taking massive losses. Cool idea, just not possible to implement online in my opinion.

If it's effective, it will surely won't last or succeed in the long run. Casinos might prohibit it if it's going to reduce their profit or might cause them losses in the future. However, I don't think these skill-based slot machines don't rely on luck. We all know how slots work and there's no guarantee that a certain skill could make a player win continuously. The house won't allow it as well if it will affect their business negatively.

I have never heard of a skill based slot machine. Are you even sure they are a popular thing?

If you were to ask me, I would say that any skill based game where you can make money is just waiting to be exploited. You cannot really exploit something which works with probabilities but if you add an algorithm for "skills" you can easily develop an automated way to always win. It would be simple code for a "human emulator".

Sounds shady. I would love to see the inner workings of such a "skill based gambling game". ::) Maybe the skill part is just marketing and its not got anything to do with your abilities? 

I just read the entire article about the skill base slot machine and I couldn't find any single difference about the skill-based slot machines and the traditional one apart from the fact that on a skill base slot machine a gambler is given a bonus time to practicalized his skill, that can also be done on a traditional slot machine, because for me luck remains a major factor to both kinds of slot machines, because both kinds of slot machines can be studied and understand how they works, as I'm sure the  pressure by which a gambler spins the wheel of a slot machine has a big role to play to where it's arrow may fall.

I need to digest for a while what is meant by luck based slot machine. from the first link, I didn't get the specifics that are meant by skill-based slot machines. I want to continue to read the second link, but unfortunately I can't access it. because, too many ads on the link.

However, if referring to the first link. I suspect, that this is a new idea that will be stretched. as the article says, skill-based slot machine is a new kind that replaces the older scenario of slot machine. to be honest, as you said I also just read and even heard that there is a skill-based slot machine. This is interesting, but I'm still confused whether this is still an idea that is currently in a project that will be carried out by gambling game developers. or, still in the planning stage. or if this luck-based slot machine already exists, I am challenged to find out more about it and even want to try playing it.

Most of the slot game is purely based on the luck.It very commonly known ideology of slot games,your words of slot game based on knowledge is more specie one.The slot game is based on the Random Number Generator in all the websites.The process is the very simple,the RNG will create one number and based on that number.The slot game will chose the winner of the certain slot,So who had lucky on that day will be the winner of the certain day.Incase the slot game which based on skill was introduced into the gambling,then the winner will become a decentralised one.Because person who was good at the analytical skill will find the desired outcome and place the bet on that number.So of course he will be winner because of his knowledge in the numbers and slot game knowledge.The long term slot game player will learn many tricks on playing slot games for longer period.

In all my years of gambling, I've never played on a physical slot machine, all slot games I've played have always been online.

But to answer the question, knowing how bad I am with anything that has to do with luck, I think I would prefer the skill based slot machine if ever I have a chance to play on a physical slot machine, and I'm given the option to chose between the two.
I believe in my skill than I believe in luck, it is better for me to lose due to my poor skill than to lose due to bag luck - this is because, losing due to bad skill simply means, I have a choice of deciding whether to improve my skill or not, but losing due to bad luck, leaves me with no option at all, because nothing can really be done, except to pray for better luck next time..

I don't also want to go too deep with that. Slots are better to remain as luck based and if there have been some changes made by the slots providers or any developer to make it just as skilled based game, I don't think that it will click. There's already the belief that it's a luck based game and that's the fun starts. I have not known any casinos that do have it but if there's the reinvention on this, those who wants to try, may try it if that's what you want. I'll just stick to what I've used to.

I still prefer the traditional slots over the skill-based slot because I remember playing the skill-based slot game once and it had a bigger house edge. To me, it felt like no matter how skilled you are at playing that slots it kind of evens out because casinos will most likely increase the house edge as most of their players would be curious to test it out. I like the new type of slots as it's good to have changes but for now, it's better to continue playing traditional slots until the providers find ways to improve the skill-based ones.

Slot machines are an excellent source of income for casinos, because most of them (as you said yourself) are programmed to give victory or defeat to the player based only on luck, which as we all know, always favors the house.

A skill-based slot machine is sure to reduce the house's winnings and that's why these slots are rare and when found, they are only limited to a bonus stage.

I would love to play a purely skill based slot machine, I believe some old arcade games that pay out in Bitcoin would be a good start for casinos to start investing

Whenever I hear the phrase "slot machine," the word "fun" immediately comes to mind, so I prefer traditional slot machines as they give me more enjoyment. Moreover, when playing slots, I don't need to spend a lot of money since I tend to focus more on sports betting when it comes to spending a significant amount of money.

I think I have heard about these ones before on TV, but I have personally never seen one.
I guess the standard is leaning to fully luck based gambling, for several reasons.

Also, I assume that skill based slots would be more difficult to program as provably fair and the boost provided by the skills of the gambler are not even noticeable anyways, so the effort would not be worth it.

It would not be appealing to those gamblers who only want to sit back and relax a bit while trying their luck while doing something else.  ???

I have only played traditional slots, manual and online. I am not really familiar with skill-based slots but I think both the traditional slots and this new skill-based slots are still largely based on luck. I don't exactly know what skill is involved but this is only provided in a bonus round, just an extra round of a game which is still luck-based overall. And even if the odds will improve if you are winning these skill-based bonus rounds, they remain to be in favor of the casino.

Skill based slots — that sounds funny, nonetheless I would play wherever there is better chance for me to make profit, so ofc this one. Not sure if this thingy is available anywhere online.

As I understand it, it will still be a game of long term negative return for the player, but the skill will be able to give him a higher RTP.


I prefer the traditional one, as I haven't tried the other one yet. I didn't know anything about it, but I'm curious about it, and I'll try it as soon as I get the chance.


Next time you'd better stop and read instead of writing the first nonsense that pops into your head.

Casinos pay the bills with slots period. I don't see "skill based slots" being profitable for a casino, so I doubt many casinos would put them on their floor. Same goes for the online casinos, they just wouldn't bring the money that normal slots bring.

There's a house edge for a reason.

This is the first time I've heard of this skill-based slot machine model and I thought it was a very interesting model to try. From the explanation I got from the website that you provided, this model allows users to be able to maximize their profits "Skill-based slot machines deliver you the chance of working yourself and apply some skills to boost your profit rapidly." This is the first time I've heard of this type of gambling. No wonder it's popular among young people because this model can be very profitable for them. But I doubt that this model will be implemented in many casino platforms because profit margins can be quite small for casino platforms.

I think idea definitely looks good in theory if truly increases your chances somehow. But its still hard to claim as skill based opportunity. Increased chance does mean you only manipulate random number generator behind device. Its still decided by algorithm. There should be some way to clearly influence your chances. Like pushing a button to increase your chance to hit certain shapes in game etc. I find it bit complicated so. Traditional slot machines work for years. People would like bonus rounds but marketing these as skill based wouldn't be accurate.

OP isn't talking about whether or not skill based slot machines are going to be implemented. There are skill based slot machines in some Las Vegas casinos right now, so implementation won't be a problem.
I don't know anything about skill based slots, here's what I get from the first article that appeared on Google search results.


It seems that such slot machines are player vs. player which can be quite entertaining. I prefer playing against other gamblers, rather than sitting in front of a slot machine and trying to win the jackpot. Unfortunately, there aren't any skill based slot machines in my country.
Maybe they will be imported in the future.
Another thing is that the millennials aren't the most active players. The older hardcore slots players are more active on skill based slots than the millennials. 

They have the name Skill added to it but I don't see any skill can be applied on the slot to win the game, its just another round of spin so the chance matters here so its still zero skill and pure luck when it comes to slot. I think they use it to trick players by giving an extra round where the results are still going to be random and no skill to be applied with it.

I guess that I already heard this before but still thanks for bringing this up again. This is a great awareness for others who didn't know this yet. If I were to choose I think I will still go with the classic slots or those slots who are based on luck because I am not really that skillful.

The odds are still stacked up against the players because most of the games are still based on luck and I think in a skill based slot game, the bonus round is much harder to trigger because there are players who are skillful and have prepared for it to gain an advantage. In crypto, there must be slot games who don't use RNG but uses a provably fair system and other blockchain/crypto related tools to identify a result. I also prefer these as I think they are more trusted.

There's no skill involved when you do pull out that level or pushing that roll button on which there's no way that you could be able to apply any strategy into it.This is why its not really that something possible to have this kind of skill based slot machine.If ever there's one would be created then i would be curious on how it would really be applied and it would be somewhat interesting if ever this one is possible.
I cant really think off on how this thing could really be that possible considering that slots are code generated and each roll is really something that it is really that totally random.
There's no way you could apply any tactics or ways on increasing your winning chance.

Slot game changes usually depend on each provider and the casino only puts it on their site. But usually, you've seen that providers give new names to their slot games that are different from previous games. But if there really is a skill-based slot game, I want to see it first before I try it because I think we should know how to play the skill-based slot game. But if not, I'm still satisfied playing luck-based slot games because in my opinion, slot games are stressful ;D

Okay, this is just dumb, yes it indicated that bonus rounds that depend on skill exist, but what skill? What are the specifics or rules/laws behind the bonus round itself? Other than specifying that it was a "skill-based" kind, nothing else appeared. There are a LOT of things that a "skill-based" indication covers. Honestly would have liked it better if it elaborated more on what criteria they choose on "skill-based", or at least, specify what it actually is for some examples.

In my own assumption though, I reckon skill-based means something similar to games provided in arcades? Since it's probably by far the easiest to implement in land-based casinos. If you're a fan of arcades, you'd probably know about fighting booths, rhythm ones, or even the most simplest ones similar to Mario or Tetris. If it was like that then it is rather interesting.

I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 

I also didn't understand this and I have no idea of what skills are involved on the process. All I see is that the called skill based slots machines have an extra bonus round mechanism to allow gamblers to raise their chances of profit a little bit. But I doubt there are arcade games' mechanisms involved on this process. The furthest interaction I've seen with slot machines is the possibility of choosing a card or secret icon from a selection of few of them.

Still, it shouldn't be considered a skill, since the result is based on pure luck. If you are lucky you are going to pick a card with a nice reward, if not, you are going to receive the worst reward or no rewards at all...

I didn't even know that skill-based slot machines exist. I'm just wondering how it works and what skills are required to win on it. I also prefer the excitement that traditional slots could give. I'm actually contented with it and I don't see any problem with slots aside from it being quite addictive. Innovations could happen in gambling but there are developments that lose the essence of entertainment in the gambling industry.

The term skill-based slot is a bit of a misnomer. I've read the article and nowhere does it say that the player's skills are involved in securing profits for themselves, only that through these "skill-based slot games", they'd be able to use an ability or a powerup per se every now and then, which goes towards amping the amount of profit one can receive, but never really helping the player in any way whatsoever with securing said profits.

This is a massive clickbait for me, and most likely for most of the people who looked into it coz the first impression one can have upon hearing "skill-based slot games" is a slot game where they completely control the outcome of the game in some way. Which this is clearly not. So no, i don't necessarily recommend it, but people can try.

The first thing comes to my mind when I read skill based slot machine is that does it even exist?
I havent read the linked article but I doubt that slot can be played with skills as it is pure luck based as players are unable to increase the winning chance.
Someone here said that it is like a pvp slot games, but even if it is pvp based game, what kind of skills is needed to play slot machine?
I think the term skill based slot machine is just a marketing word to attract slot lover who might be curious about it.

From the feedback I've read, I still don't understand and understand about skill-based slots. I think all slot games are the same, there's no such thing as skill-based slots.
OP said skill-based slots provide more bonuses and have a greater chance of winning but for bonuses of all types of slot games there are always bonuses that gamblers can get and for bigger winning opportunities like not because slots are games that rely on luck if there is a way or strategy to increase the chances of new wins I believe but if the skill base provides bigger opportunities it's ridiculous.

Taking a look at then and what is happening then can nit be compared to now that everything had changed and many casinos would never wanted to adopt that pattern because it's not going to give them a good amount of Money to continue the business. So many things are involved now that the government would never wanted to spared a dime from the tax they collect from casinos for the operation to keep working. When you look at how much casinos paid for all those services, none would want to follow the traditional patterns.or anyone that would not have a fixed amount they will be getting.

It might help if you describe what you consider to be a skill based slot machines, because often they are just carefully orchestrated illusions to give the player "control". At the end of the day, the businesses putting these machines out there have running costs and also want to make a profit, so there is always going to be a limit to the amount they will let a player win. This paradox clearly points to the fact that they are only skill based to a limit and no amount of disguising can change that fact. It would be fun to see more pinball-type machines making a comeback in future, but maybe they'll only allow a player to play for longer than usual rather than making a monetary gain.

People comment on the topic, but it seems to me that many do not read the previous comments, or read what OP posted.


I tried to find an online skill-based slot but looks like that skill-based slots are only available in land-based casinos (Las Vegas, and some other US states). Maybe I missed something, but it's what I got from my search.

And this is exactly what makes all this interesting. When we will see the first skill-based slots available for playing with crypto? I would like to play some arcade games from the past with some stakes... :)

All of us would really be puzzled on how these things could really be applied.Just like the rest on where slot games are really  that something cant be determined on how you would
win up.We are looking for those combinations which are really that in result into each random roll and there's no way that we could be able to think up on how it would
work on this way.Skill based slot machines? If ever this one would be invented then this one would be the first ever and might be able to get that
good marketshare.

This kind of idea still looks new to my understanding, which often plays slots in online games, even in relation to traditional slots though. Bonus rounds which are classified as skill-based still feel confusing to me, because generally slots rely more on luck not skill and it is different in the case of poker card gambling or the like.

If this concept really existed, I think that any profit returned to the house or gambling company would be problematic, because skill would allow people to understand game patterns, so gambling houses have a much greater chance of losing and players will easily learn the technicalities.

The names are just different but they all end with the same mechanics and game style. But if ever there's really one that can change into a skilled base, I don't know if I can project that in my mind.

Actually, it's both stressful and fun at the same. And we're just familiar with the luck based type and that's more acceptable so something new is quite unfamiliar with but given the long time of its existence, it will eventually be known.

This is very interesting- I have never heard nor encountered a "skill-based slot machine" type of game since it is generally known as a game where it involves pure luck. The problem with slots is that you have no control over the process to which it arrives at a result. You push the lever and hope for the best that it lands on triple 7s, etc.

Now that the world is changing and innovations are being introduced daily, I wonder how they can introduce and integrate skill in a game on which it is based purely on luck. Though if this were to happen, I would still avoid slots due to its very nature and core relying purely and solely on luck rather than skill.

Skill is something you applied based on your study to come out with the desired results I don't see it here it's still random you still have to rely on luck so where is skill comes to play here, I cannot imagine luck-based games turning into skill-based games, with players employing a consistent method to win, because luck-based games are casinos' bread and butter, will they allow that?
It's a game-changer for the casino industry and it will turn the tide against casinos, the casinos can lose their business.

I don't think that it will turn the tide against casino though, maybe yeah they will go and have this on the floor, but I don't see it as the one that can beat their system. Maybe just a small percentage of this machines are going to be allowed by them, because this skill based games are a game changer as you have said. So I will estimate that it might be just 1% or even less than that the machines that they are going to allow in their casinos. The bread and matter luck base games like Slots will continue to dominate because of how big it generate and it's one of the favorite game that everyone enjoys. And not everyone can play that skill based game too in my opinion. So it won't put any dent on their business, it's just the industry is developing something new just for gaming experiences.

How about a slot machine with a pinball element to it, I doubt that exists but it should as that would surely qualify as a skill based game.   I can faintly remember something kinda like that but its an unlikely combo because it would have to be flat and take more floorspace possibly.

Pinball element? on what sense for it to be applied? It isnt really still that skill based on which i dont see if ever it would really be that relevant for this type of game for it to be combo'ed out.

Just like the rest been saying that i dont see the relevance or the actual connection in between slots and skill based ones on how you would be able to increase your winning rate or chance?

If there are companies or upcoming owners who do make out such new idea and make out this kind of application then it would be great and good to look on how
it would be done and if it do ends up on being interesting then this is the first who would really be getting huge marketshare.

I think it can be good idea to combine two different games. One would be luck based game like slots. And other one would involve skill. Pinball isn't bad idea. I think short game of cards could be added even. This could multiply rewards as you pass through skill based game, you may earn a shot of luck based one. Honestly gambling businesses are too traditional. Noone experiments with different ideas. So this is mainly why young people care more about video games but not care about traditional games.

Slot machines that use skill are less common than those that use traditional slots. The majority of the casinos I've visited only offer the conventional ones.
As someone who is accustomed to playing traditional slots, I believe that skill-based slots are less enjoyable. Which would be more addictive? I have no idea. Perhaps skill-based slots, as they make players feel that they need to exert more effort and lead them to believe that they will "play harder" the next time. They keep returning, and before you realize it, they have been addicted. Please direct me there if you know of any online casinos that include slots that require skill.

Have heard about traditional slot and skill based slot machine but to be candid i have not really participated in any of the above.
But the monent i came across this topic i proceeded on a research to have more knowledgd on them and from my findings i perceived that traditional slot has a fantastic merits like the convinience, privacy, flexible, easy to pay. To mention but a few. And the comprehension of it is easy.
So if am to choose i d' rather go for traditional slot than the skill based machine.
My opinion though.

Well, that's the problem. that we don't know which slot machines require skill. I'm pretty sure, most of us just found out that there are slot machines that are skill based. although the thread the OP shared, is an old thread. I mean, the article was posted since last 2021. but actually, we just read it and know it. to be honest, I can't say which one is more addictive. then, are you familiar with skill-based slot machines. well, because that also makes my curiosity higher to find out. is the slot game interesting, or.

IMO, most likely, that skill-based slots are still in the planning or development stages. which is possible, has the potential to be adopted by casino platforms in their innovation projects related to slot machines. I think otherwise with you, I'm not talking about addiction. what intrigued me, what games would they offer.

If ever this one could be possible or would be made out then it is the first on the market and if it does really show off some good entertainment then it would really be creating a noise.We havent seen anything

something like this on which i do say that it isnt really that appealing on combining both things slots+pinball.If ever there are ones who do make this idea to be real and applied then lets see on how the

gambling community would really be reacting into it and seeing whether it would be interesting one or would really be just that a shit game to deal since it is really just the same
in overall concept.

I'm in the same boat, I don't get clear why they are called skill slots, I mean, the guys who are stronger or faster win versus other guys? or win more on the slot machine? and the answer is no. So, I don't get clear why this is called skill-based slots. These kinds of slots are based on luck, just like the other ones. But the skill is not a fact that will make us win more.

I would like to see Chess slot based, which would be a skill slot, but not a game in that you place the bet and the outcome is the result of a random number.

That's a game that can be said to be vintage if you call it, that's the age of the game. I used to play it on the family computer when I was young and I had no idea that it was possible in a casino.

But in what OP posted, the game flow system in the slot is a little different, although I don't see anything bad or difficult about that.

Probably, if you have more skills on the kind of slot games you played, that will increase your chances of winning. If not, then just try your luck then. Although I have not tried this one, as I’m not actually a slots lover, but sounds interesting if this is the case. Maybe I should try this skill-based slot machines if there are any, as I’m actually used to the fact that slots are just pure luck, and skills have nothing to do with it.

It's probably true that it wouldn't really increase the odds for players to win more but will only provide a chance for them to increase their chances of getting more bonus spins or maybe higher multipliers, we are yet to know what kind of rules the bonus rounds or the games will have, but at the end of the day, it's still a casino game and they don't always favor the gambler.

And you are right that both normal and skill-based slots should be used side by side, and platforms should include both options for players to try, and they will choose which one they like more.

There’s no know slot games like this available online. Most of this skill based slot machine is currently designed for physical slot machine. Online slot provider still doesn’t have any interest on producing this kind of game since the current pure RNG based slot games is popular.

I would love to try one of this slot games once I visit local casino. I think those who play on Vegas or huge casino with new tech slot machine are the only user that can give feedback on this game.

For the meantime, You can visit the link provided below for those interested to check what are sample games for this skill based slot.

https://betandbeat.com/slots/types/skill-based-slots/

I've never tried skill-based slot machines (never even knew they existed until today), but it does sound quite interesting. It actually does add an extra layer of excitement compared to traditional slots, as you can have some control over the outcome during bonus rounds and be more active when playing slot games. However, I am pretty much sure that the house still has an edge, so the odds aren't really in your favor and there are some sort of lucks involved in those games, or else skilled player could make those casinos go bankrupt. As for which I  would prefer, I'd say it depends on how I am feeling and what I want. If I'm looking for a more interactive experience and be more involved in the game, I'd go for skill-based slots. But if I just want to relax and try my luck, traditional slots would be more appealing.

Traditional slot can mean slots that is find on a brick and mortar casino but skill-based slot must be a new invention and mainly exist in the online world therefore skill-based slots are the ones that are more private especially if the casino that has this game supports crypto payment methods and then they don't require users to pass KYC.

Online games are also the ones who are more convenient, flexible and easy to pay. If there is any advantage of the traditional slot games then that is they are more fun because you can see other people around, there is that background noise and maybe some of them will watch how you play and they will cheer up for you.

Probably that will be one reason that it will be welcome, because there is some excitement as compare to traditional based slot machines, although I must say that traditional is also very exciting but addicted as well.

Just search this skill based game,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCkl-Fhs200

It's a brick sort of games, so yeah you need some skills if you want to make money in this kind of games.

I already know that there is a skill-based slot machine where the game depends on the skill of the player to time when to stop the spin to be able to win a higher prize.  I long search for this kind of game but failed to because it isn't available on the platform where I am playing.

I think providers is avoiding this kind of game because it will incur a heavy loss to the casino once the player gets comfortable with the game.  Just like how every casino ban card counting, this maybe the case for skill-based slots.

In the end, slots are still games of chance and luck. If ever there will be slot games that will be skill-based in the future, then maybe that’s something that we should look forward to but I can’t imagine as to how it will be possible. Slot games have nothing to do with skills, but if you can have the best luck when playing, you can always have the chance to increase your profits while increasing your chances of winning.

based from the explanation of the article, i still don't know how it really works in actuality as i have never played one yet. when it comes to crypto casinos, i don't think they have this kind of slot machine already.
and definitely, there's still house edge on this game. casinos are here for businesss, so they won't just release a game that they will be bankrupt of.

I also have never come across this skill-based Slot game on any provider and maybe the Slot game provider chose the RNG base because it's simpler to apply to current Slot games across providers.
maybe some people consider this skill-based slot game one of the interesting games, but not for me.
after I read a few articles I didn't really like this type of slot and prefer RNG based slots to get a better experience.

For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.

There is nothing in the article that gives a detailed explanation of how to develop skill in the slot, a luck-based game will remain a luck-based game so there is really no option to choose, because if there's a proven method for implementing a skill-based on slot or any other luck based game like dice, then the house edge will crumble and casino will eventually lose a lot of money, and they might even take down these once luck-based games.

House edge would always fucked us up and considering that slots have 5-10% HE according into this article
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/

Which means that if on dice games and other luck based games we do lost in long term runs then how much more on slot gaming?
There's no way that we could be able to make out some advantages on having that alteration or applying any strategies to
increase your winning odds.

The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.

Its not the skill based idea which gets me whether it was actually there or not, its the story and theme to a slot that really makes me come back or not.  Maybe the music & the overall style and feel to the game.  The gun fighters dead or alive was perhaps my favorite theme for a slot even if its still just luck and maybe my luck wasnt especially good on it.  Great setup for a game anyhow.

I still believe that slot games are purely luck based and skill is not required to win a slot game. Yes, the slot game can be developed in a way that appeals it is a skill based with all those sounds and animations but in the backend only luck matters in the end.


Casinos can falsely claim that they have skill-based games on their platform and this could be done to grab the attention as gamblers usually have hard luck in winning, they would want to try a skill-based game but unfortunately, it would just be a hoax. There is no skill-based games in reality.

So far I haven't come across any skill based slot machines. The only ones I heard from was some anime slot machines from Japan that want the gamblers to touch special areas on the screen to interact with them. It isn't really skilled based because it won't affect the winning chances, even though some people believed they would get good luck from it. When it comes to gambling people tend to become very superstitious and believe in connections that aren't really there. This would also be one issue I have with skill based slots, how much can we actually influence our chances through skill? Because the casino needs to make sure they make money with their slot games, so it could be that the slot machines offer skill input from the player which won't affect the winning chances at all. Or maybe it takes such a high skill cap that only a few player actually manage to be successful. I am not such a good gamer these days as I was back in highschool, but still would be nice to give the new slots a try and see how well I am doing.

As far as I can remember while there have been some people over the years which have won a lot of money by playing slots, at the same time not a single one of them did so with skill, basically every single one of them cheated the slot machine in some way or form.

And with this in mind plus the very high house edge which is present on those machines, I will say that slot machines are probably one of my least favorite games I can find at any casino.

You'll really see who's read the article and who's not. The fact that the term skill-based is so widely accepted to be about the player's skill and nothing else is such a clickbait for this kind of slot games.

So basically for those who didn't have the time to read the article quoted in the main post, the term skill-based slot game is a massive misnomer, as it doesn't really talk about the player's skill having some effect on the game outcome, rather, the slot will give the player a bonus, called a "skill" that he/she can use in order to amp up the profits he could rake. Keep note, it doesn't increase his chances of winning anything, nor does it help the player in any way whatsoever to secure said profits. The gambling industry is such a deceitful world but I never expected them to stoop this low, literally baiting people into thinking that the player will have some agency over his win.

Skill-based slot machines that are mentioned in the article given by OP are not yet available in online casino platforms and are currently only available at a few land-based casinos. They are not yet that much popular nor widely accepted and are just spreading around, and if they prove to be a failure, they will probably vanish from existence too.

It's pretty simple, you just keep spinning like a normal slot machine and then you get a bonus round (I don't know how it happens though) where you are given a skill-based game to play and you either get extra spins or multiplier based on the points.

What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.

For some other people, like me who rarely get lucky with slot games, it is the other way round.
Slot games are really fun to play, but this is if you are always winning, yeah, atleast, much more than your loses, but I've been made to understand that majority of slot games are built in such a way that even if one gets lucky and win in the very beginning, it is really difficult to keep the winning streak for long, as a few rolls, could see the gambler lose all his profit including the initial deposit..
This is particularly one of the reasons I avoid slot games, most especially ones which are luck based, this is if there is even a slot game that is skill based, would personally love to try the skill based version, maybe I would have a different experience.

Haven't seen that kind of games from land base casinos too, at least in my place and it could be just in bigger casino in the US or even in Europe I reckon. But I'm interested and maybe just for the experience, I might play if I see one in our local land base casinos.


Yes, it's that simply almost the same with traditional base slot games, once you get the bonus then you will rely to your luck. But obviously, in skill based games, you will based it on yourself, your best effort to beat the casino machine in their own game.

I agree with all of these I quoted.
How come there is a based skill on a slot machine, either it will online or traditionally it is still based on luck, not on skill?
You can even blindly pull the lever or even hit the button to roll the slot machine. Skill games are those games that have something to be calculated the result and that this kind of game. But to be honest, I never knew this kind of game exists in slot machines, how has this become possible I think that it is only based on luck.

Article doesn't name one skill based slot so i am not aware of any of those. Can we try those out in any crypto casinos and could someone name one of the slots or slot provider that makes those?
But i remain skeptical. As you couldn't beat the house, otherwise they wouldn't be builded. That means that even with best outcome you would probably make less winnings then with some of the other slots out there. Those could be fun though.

In Finland we actually had physical slot machines in 80s that could be beaten by real skill, they were called payazzos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payazzo). They were very difficult to beat but not impossible and technically you could have build a device that helps you but you couldn't use them without anyone noticing.

In the first place, why have that mindset to be beat the house? Does we really need to aim for it.

It's already clear to us, even newbies, that there's no way to beat the house in terms of technical aspects like if it's possible to ride on its algorithm, manipulate the result and override its built system.

Instead of thinking about beating the house, learn to take advantage once luck hits us and give us decent win. Winning big doesn't happen often in playing slots so learn to cashout some winning money if ever it's now our turned to hit it.

Of course, we have to keep up with the times, skill-based slots are very popular in my country, the young boy plays this kind of slot and fights to get the bonus whereas the addiction is to get more registered. we can't ignore the fact that young boys these days have basic knowledge about new technology which makes them always curious about how must calculate the margin casino and make easy money. We know the traditional slot doesn't have it where just rely on luck, while skill-based slots don't just rely on it but another soft skill which we can see they play on Social Media.

That is a way to be able to control finances so that they don't run out after getting a win, friend.
By withdrawing some money from the winnings, we can still have some left when we continue to experience defeat and this really needs to be applied to every gambler because there are many experience stories from many gamblers who lost all their winning money after deciding to pursue bigger wins.
But this kind of thing is very rarely realized by many gamblers. They don't want to think long and prefer to follow the emotion of lust for greed to get bigger profits.
Thank you, friend, for giving good advice here.

Indeed slot games are easy to say in theory, but practice is much different, if we talk about slot machines, whether it's skill-based or traditional slots, both are different, I've tried both, the results I get are far from what I thought.

I thought it was easy to play a skill slot machine with bonus rounds available, fact is not the case, I simply couldn't raise the RTP high enough to determine my win, even though I have applied my skills, to be honest I realize that any type of slot is basically luck nothing more, even though we have a series of ways and tricks to play.

While traditional slot machines are also based on luck where we start and when we stop to play traditional slot bets, the rest is based on will, if lucky.

Conclusion: Both types of traditional and skill slot games are more based on the nature of our luck in betting.

Yeah I think that's over now right? I haven't seen this offered anywhere yet. Even if the article states it is still a thing, I still don't find any game like that on my usual online casinos.

It seems to me so complicated for a casino to offer a slot in this genre, it seems to me almost contradictory with the primary purpose of slot games.

Anyway thanks OP, it was a very interesting article, I will try to find more resources on this subject

I guess this skill based slot machines would be an interesting one and I would love to try it out someday.
I was wondering about how the bonuses are been distributed If just someone claims they have a skill or is there something I'm missing? Because if bonuses are given to players for them just giving claims of being skilled then everyone would want to give such claims so as to be given more bonus  to have .ore edge to win against the house or slot.
I haven't seen the smiled slot machines before and I've been wondering if it will be looking same with the traditional or local or regular ones we know.

oh thank you for explaining, even though I read it, I still did not understand it sorry. How's the experience? and how's your winning. It is seems a difficult ones and it requires a lot of time and effort. But if the winning money is kinda big maybe I should try it? it makes it challenging by having that "skill" you are talking about, I'll try it if there's a skill based machine here in us.

It is maybe no surprise that they do not give any actual, real life examples, of a "skill based" slot machine. Every single slot machine out there has been engineered to take money in for the casino and not to let the player win in the long run. This article - from two years ago - uses words like profit, as if it's possible to win in the long term from this type of game, when simple mathematics tells you otherwise. You might get very lucky, out of some freak set of variance or targeted psychological engineering, in the short run - but you will not win long term. At the very least, these machines cost money to run and the company has overheads to pay which require them to take at least a certain amount of your money, never to be returned.

Poker based rules to slot machine is one I've seen.   Not sure I'd call it skill based as its still not actual poker, only if you were playing other people also with that same model in a connected way perhaps.  Again I do think thats possible but havent seen it recently, not common so far as I know either.

I don't think it's over but it is more like it isn't very popular or widely used, and it might only be available at some land-based casinos for now. The concept sounds pretty interesting but we can't really make any judgments before we witness it ourselves since it isn't available on online platforms, it's difficult to understand how it actually works.

I've not checked yet but maybe there are videos available about it and its gameplay on YouTube or maybe on social media channels. I will try if I can find some because I'm also curious to know how it really works.

skill based slot machines are becoming popular now a days, they offer player a chance to use their skills to win, but luck still plays a big role. some people prefer traditional slots while others like the challenge of skill-based slots. remember to gamble responsibly and only bet what you can afford to lose.

there is no one size fits all answer to whether traditional slots or skill-based slots are better, as it ultimately comes down to personal preference. traditional slots are purely based on chance and offer a simple and straightforward gameplay experience(which i like). skill-based slots, on the other hand, offer an added element of player skill in the bonus round, which can increase the player's chances of winning. and, they also require more focus and attention from the player.(while traditional i can play by my feet also)

I also feel that some people have succeeded in winning the slot game. But the slot games they have won seem luck-based like other slot games. But some people may play in skill-based slot games like @OP said. But it's still difficult to find slot games.

Slot games seem to have become one of my favorite games. I'm still good at controlling myself so nothing bad happens. And if you say slot games are gambling games that you don't like, what do you usually play?

Slot games are the easiest gambling games because they are no special requirements. We just have to write down the number of bets we want and we can choose the smallest bet to start playing and the casino allows that too. And this slot game has succeeded in making many people come back to play it because they are still curious about their final result. Maybe some people use various bet amounts to win a lot of money and think it is a special strategy they use to win.

Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners, not the gamblers. I was thinking if that really exists, how this casino will even survive? No, those things are baseless and out of reality. Slot machine games are known to be pure luck-based games - I couldn't really imagine someone having the skill to defeat the slot machines. Because even if you spend many years playing them, you can't figure it out how it works other than having a huge chance to lose rather than winning.

That's effin cool. It was like you are playin two games at one. It does saves money and we also have the chance to double, triple, and so on.. our money easily because skills does matter in here. Anyone can be really good at any skill based game as long as they will dedicate enough time to learn and study how to take more advantage of the game. Each of us has sometimes has our own definition of skill games.

There are even some who treat a casino games like dice a skill game only because they can formulate a strategy with it but for me I don't consider it as one. As for you, you only consider a game a skill game if it's played by a player versus another player and not by a computer.

This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

Are you talking about offline or online skill based slots, if so which casino is providing them. Without playing the game, it is hard to share the opinion as i have no idea about the skill based slots other than the free rolls how come you will be able to apply your skills.

Fair point, it is hard to defeat a machine if it is a skill based game  :D.

Indeed, the nature of Man, one man's food, another man's poison  ;D.
I stopped playing slot games mostly because it is based on luck, I decide to throw my weight to sports betting which allows, not skill per say, but knowledge of sports and other  stuff, apply my knowledge has made be to stand a better chance at winning games compared to when I relied solely on luck.

If there be a luck and skill based slot machines, like I've said before, I would play only skill based slot machine, I have no business with luck as I believe in my skills far more than I believe in luck.

Regardless if traditional slots can be applied with skills, nothing will change the fact that it's all about luck.

For me, I just go with the flow and if there's a chance that I can play slots at physical casinos, I would love it.

Currently, I'm hook-playing with online slots so that's what I prefer for now.

I just think of it. Maybe they found traditional slots can be apply with skills is because those big winners able to hit big winnings from what they think they applied skills but on reality, they just hit lucky that time. I mean, how can we apply skills at these luck-based games?

The skills that can be applied here is, managing our bankroll to last for long term playing.

You are probably misunderstanding the whole concept here, the implementation of a skill-based bonus round doesn't mean that the luck factor is removed, there cannot be a game of gambling that can be won without luck, no matter how much changes, developments, and implementations are made for it, it will still be a game of luck at the end of the day.

Your winnings will still be dependent on luck even in a skill-based slots machine, the only difference will be is that you will be given a bonus round where you can maximize your winnings by playing a skill-based game since we don't have any more information about it so far, that's all you should know for now.

It seems what you say is a little biased. yes, I don't understand what you mean by saying "Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners".
however, if we talk about skill-based slot machines. it seems, we would very much doubt it. because, referring to some of the references that I read. slot machine games are strictly based on pure luck, even though they involve RNG and RTP.  but in truth, it is hard to tell the difference between a game that is skill-based and a slot game that is purely luck-based.

And if, i referred to the link the first OP shared. As the article mentioned, skill-based slot machines are a new breed that are replacing the older semi-slot scenarios. however, it seems that basically the game types are the same.  to be honest, I'm quite clueless about skill-based slot machines. even, if this actually existed.  I'm interested to try it.

Slots will always be slots.  There a many twists to it but in the end its all luck based winning.  If skill is your thing than you need to pivot over to something like poker in which the players have a hand in if they win or lose.  I've never been a huge slot player but they are fun from time to time like lottery is or scratch off cards, etc.  Never know maybe you hit the big one.  But if I'm playing slots give me easy lol.

I read the article, and I don't really understand anything more about Skill-based slot machines.  The article really just talked about that fact that there are skill based slot machines and that they give you a chance of earning more money by adding a bonus feature which will allow you the opportunity to utilize some sort of knowledge/skill to make more money.  However it didn't talk at all about how this works..so I dont get it.  I'll have to read through some of the comments.

Besides even if the element of luck was removed then we need to wonder if the game is still considered a gambling game at all? If I am not mistaken chess or at least one of the variants of chaturanga called chaturaji was played with dice, making it a gambling game, but once you remove this element then it would become a game of skill.

So even if slots add an element of skill for the player, at the end the most important factor when it comes to winning is still their luck, as it is unlikely any casino will implement a slot machine with a bonus which will make them to lose any money.

In slot games actually theres no skill base its just norms of the people having the proper way of making the pull of a lever, timing of the push, and the number of taps those are just the beliefs of the gamblers in terms of playing slot games, its all about the odds of the chance of winning, if you win the game they will tell you that you are a skilled but actuall you just hit the odds to get win. In traditional slots you can make a lever adjust depends on your pull in new slot games theres only a button and makes a turn rate of it like the players does not have a fully control on the movement or timing.

There's no indeed skill involved when playing up slots on which it is really just that pulling a lever or would really be just pressing a button on which means that there's no involved on that or you could be able to influence

on what would be the result which means that luck would be always the main sole reason whether you would win or not.There's no skill that would really be involved.This is why its really that hard to believe that

there would be some casinos would really be having that kind of game type which slots game could really be applied with some skill which cant be possible.No matter how you do make out strategies
or analysis, there's no way that you could be able to increase your winning chances.

I heard about skill-based slots recently but I still haven't able to play any slots of that type. I also currently have zero knowledge of names/titles of anu skill-based slots. Can you give us any example?

Those of us who know that slot games are gambling games based on luck will not say that special skills can be learned to win these games. But those who believe it will say the opposite and still believe that there is a skill base needed to win from slot games. Maybe there is or not and that's up to each person because we can't blame someone who believes that skill-based slot games exist.

How is pressing a button a skill  ;D I guess there is nothing much about slot games than pushing a button, as a gambler you need to rely on luck more than your skill, if there is no luck in gambling then it's no more a gambling game, this is not beat em up or mortal combat where players rely entirely on skills.

Gambling is mostly about luck, which is why you should play only with money that you can lose. There is always a high possibility of losing the game even if you are very smart. This is a casino after all, so don't play with too much money.

It's interesting to learn about skill-based slot machines and how they differ from traditional ones. I didn't know that was a thing either. I'm assuming the bonus rounds are like mini-games within the slot game where players have to complete certain challenges or objectives to increase their chances of winning? I haven't tried them myself, but it seems like a fun way to incorporate video game elements into casino games.

Same here, I don't even know how these bonus rounds that they're talking about look. In what way do we measure skill? Skill in what?
An example of a skill based gambling machine could be a pinball table made in such way to work like a slot machine and pay people for high scores. Usually a slot machine has just one roll button/lever and the only thing you can change is the stake, number of slots, or the theme, you can't really react to what the machine is showing. To allow for skill test the machine would need to work like an arcade machine, allowing you to test memory or reaction time. I'd play something like that if I had the chance.

This might be interesting I think but sadly, I have never experienced something like this in the casino I mostly played. But if this really exists, surely this will available hopefully soon in land-based casinos but I have hard time understanding on how this skill based slot machines might work knowing as much as slot games are concern, it’s only purely luck and no skills involved. But we’ll get to know more this if this already available in local casinos.

I read in an article that in Malta in land-based casinos have established a lot of slots in which the gambler is much more involved in the process of gambling than in our usual slots.  I, like many others have not yet experienced such slots, but I would love to try to play when I will have the opportunity.

Does it even really matter?
Being given a chance to gamble again on a skill-based slot doesn't give an assurance that the game cuts; it's simply an insentive to play again, that's it.
The RGN isn't really favourable on the other hand yunno.... Cus don't nobody wants to keep doing the same thing over and over again, with different outcome but the same results..no one!! It's made too random that a win is not even guaranteed in a RARE case. I'd even prefer playing in real casino houses,..I'm just thinking it's built with a less level of sentiments

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No matter  how the games come from slot machines then it's basically based on luck and I love the fact that people with special skills are given the opportunity to showcase their skills and that will always make people want to get more advance with the game.
People would want to make this game more competitive and that is already an added advantage for the casino and slot machines.

Money management could be considered a kind of skill when playing slots, you don't want to run out before you have achieved a big win but its easy to do so.   Maybe my call of skill equates to superstition not sure but ideally you bet a larger amount when with a good chance of winning and only smaller amounts when just turning over the slot waiting for the bonus to trigger or similar payouts.  Mix the two up and you can run out of money just as it will pay, I used to know a barman who did this and waited till the player left and collected back the money they had paid in as he knew when it was ready to pay.

Though there's incomplete information as to how it basically works, it is said that a skill-based slots machine will have a bonus round where a player can play a certain game that requires you to make a score or something which probably depends on how good you can be at the game, so that is considered being a skill-based game.

Now, the unanswered question that everyone has is how that increases the chances of the player to win more in the slots itself out of that bonus round, and I believe we can only know that if we witness it ourselves.

Even the traditional slot machines requires personal skills to win, If not how would they have made up a skill based slot machine. Slot machines relies on the player's ability to make decisions. We all know that no specific means of determining what actually works in slot machines exists, but finding a malfunctioning slot machine is also a skill to win the house and gain top profits. I read through the article and it wasn't sure what kind of skill they talked about if not giving out bonus to the player to try luck in form of skills. I think the bonus is the only difference between the traditional slot machine and skilled based slot machines since it's not 100% sure that the player in skilled based machine would win, similar to the traditional based machines it's not guaranteed that the player would lose completely because they're playing on traditional machines.

In other words, we should not expect that a considered skill-based slot machine will really have the same approach as what a skill-based game is supposed to be. It's hard to apply skills in a considered gambling type that is really known as a luck-based game.

In luck-based games, the skill that should be applied is how to manage properly our bankroll to lasts for a long run.

That also includes the ability to fight temptation to continue more once winning a decent amount on the way.

Some gambling houses make them feel and realize that there is skill involved in slot based games and therefore they want the gamblers to focus more on Slot games thinking it is the skill that can make them win. Usually, gamblers know that all gambling games are luck based, and they quit games if they are on losing track thinking their luck is not with them for the day. However, by declaring slot is skill based game, gamblers might keep on trying the slot games despite losing them and thinking they may win the next game because of their skill.

Probably, this is just another strategy of the casinos so that players will be more tempted to play slots and would be somehow deceived that it’s not anymore a game of pure luck but certainly all about skills too. Beginners might believe on this and manage to play but lose more, but for long time gamblers they will never see slots that will increase your winning chances but still a game of pure luck that will only make you lose if you’re not lucky enough.

That casino will lose the trust of their players, they cannot say that you can use your skill when all along its a luck based, and worse players will file a complaint for deceiving them, it's better for casinos not to promote their slot as a skill-based casino when it's not, if the casino is reputable and with a good features and stable they need not resort to deception, players are more comfortable playing in casinos they trust.

Wish you could elaborate more on that though. Coz as it stands today I can't really think of any other way you can further involve the gambler that's playing slots in the game other than the pull the crank system that it currently operates in. You can argue that the use of "skills" (which I still think is a dirty move from these slots machine operators) is one way to exemplify but on the grand scale of things, these "skills" are nothing but bonuses painted in gold. They don't amp your winning chances, they don't provide the gambler with the ability to externally control the outcome of his game by giving him the agency on his wins, nada. So if you could explain to me how these slot machines in Malta do so, or at least link back with an article, that would be much appreciated!

I think you do not quite understand how wide the choice of action appears in a gambler in addition to our usual choice of lines and bets.

Imagine the combat system of the role-playing computer game Fallout. When playing the traditional slots your fight is in automatic mode, but as I understand it, in these slots in the battle you get to choose which weapon and in what part to hit, when to use the cure, and when to defend. Naturally, when you get some experience in this game, you will know all the vulnerabilities of your opponents, so the probability of winning will increase.

I think you're missing the point here. I don't believe that the aim of casinos or slot game developers is to mislead players, but rather to lure them with new, unique and captivating concepts. While it's true that slots are primarily based on luck, introducing new gameplay mechanics and features can make the experience more exciting for players. In fact, some players may even develop their own strategies or preferences when playing slots. It's important to remember that casinos are businesses, and their goal is to make a profit. If introducing new slot game features and mechanics can help attract more players and increase revenue, then it makes sense for them to do so.

Yes, casinos will use a lot of strategies to be able to keep players playing gambling at their casinos. Perhaps, the casino will provide other attractive offers so that players will think this is a good time to continue gambling even though it does not guarantee they can win. And these players will also think that they can use special strategies to help them win, even though playing slot games requires luck. And only the wise gambler who understands this will not be tempted by the many attractive offers from the casinos.

I play slot because of its randomness, it unpredictability. And purely because of it's luck factor. I am consider myself as a luck person so some extent. Skill based slots sounds boring and like a lot of work to me. As an oldie, II am not going to change my ways because if you consider it critically, you would see that traditional slots wins at the end of the day.

This is what I also think. Slot machines should always be a game of luck which is based on unpredictable nature. Also, I think casinos would be in the middle since there has been some market of these skill based machines but I think majority of people engaging in gambling would prefer the traditional way of gambling that is unpredictable. It could also be intimidating to some since it would require more game mechanics rather than the simpler way of traditional slot machines. But it is a great concept to think since there would be way to increase your chances of winning through these skill based slot machines. It might not be for everyone but it has potential to attract some customers since even me is intrigued on these new concepts regarding slot machines.

I think almost every single player that plays at slots machines would like the traditional features of a slot where you make a spin and wait to see what your luck has brought you and the joy of getting a big win or hitting a very high multiplier takes you to a totally different world, but honestly, I don't mind having another feature in a game where I can multiply my chances of winning.

I mean, what's wrong with a slot machine with all its traditional features but having an extra layer of fun as a bonus round that requires you to showcase your skills and get more chances or spins or whatever it has got to offer?

It's more thrilling and exciting if we don't know the outcome of the game than if we already know the results. There is no challenge in it. It's boring although the good thing is we can earn a profit but if you are already wealthy, you can care less about the money. There's also poor people who doesn't praise money that much. For them, there are other things which are more important than it. Gambling is meant to entertain us, not to give us a stress.

Most of us are already working for longer hours and we don't want to add more work by analyzing and creating a strategy only to win on this skill-based slot games. Many old person are weak and they can not think critically anymore. If you are one of it then yes, don't bother changing your style.

As far as we know, that slot machine games are included in the type of game based on pure luck. even so, there are many methods that we believe in with the various techniques we use to get the desired results. but so far, it's not really proven. in fact, all of that is a mere myth even though many gamblers still believe in it. in this thread, we are given an article link that contains luck-based slot machines. well, actually the source of the article was written 2021 ago. it's just, we just heard about it.

Despite all that, what @Viscore said is quite reasonable. related to his statement that said, maybe this is just a casino strategy. but in fact, we have not had a single claim from the casino to date that it is reported that they have a skill-based slot machine innovation. Or maybe, we don't have that information.

Well, and I also agree with what you said @decodx. it is very clear, that slot game developers design in such a way as to entice gamblers with concepts that are new, unique, and captivating. and all aimed at entertainment for us gamblers. which in essence, whatever innovation they develop, be it luck-based or skill-based, basically everything boils down to the business that the casino runs. so, it's only natural that they offer something interesting for connoisseurs of slot machines, apart from the profits they get

This is probable, slot machines are by far the most profitable gambling game at psychical casinos, and it would not surprise me if this was the case as well when it comes to online casinos, and as such casinos want to encourage more gamblers to try them.

And adding an element of skill seems to be the answer they came up, which is not bad, as even if luck is still the main factor which decides whether you win or lose, an element of skill can make slots way more interesting than what they are already.

but for young gamblers they usually prefer skill based Slot games. because this skill-based slot is like a challenge for young gamblers to get a win from their skills and to be honest I actually like this skill-based slot, it's just that I don't have much time to play it and prefer random number-based slot games which are easier to place bets although luck is very difficult to get from this random number base slot game.
so, it's up to the gamblers to choose which slot games, most importantly, they can enjoy every bet.

How skills could really be applied on playing on slots? Are there possible ways on applying out strategy or methods on making yourself having the edge towards or against with playing slot? I dont retally think so that it

would be something that applicable or something that could be possible since we know on how do slots works.We know gambling games does have different types which there are luck based and there are strategic.
There's no way that slots could really be put up on something that do needs strategy because thats not how it works.We know on how easy to roll up those slots and wait up for the results of those texttiles or
characters to go in line. If ever there would be ones who do able to make one then i would be that so curious on what it would looks like.

There are some slots released that were skill based and depends on the reflex of a player when to stop the reels.  But nowadays it is not around on online casinos anymore.  Because once the player gets the timing, the player will surely win every time he plays.

Here is an explanation about skill-based slot machines: https://pasoroblesdailynews.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work/122533/

It would be nice if there is a slot machine like this since this kind of machine will give players more chances of winning. 

gamblers have their own preferences depending on how much  and how long they can allot on this kind of game. it is understandable that if you will choose the skill-based slot machines, you need ample time to play. but we all know that a regular slot machine is based on luck. so no matter what strategy you will apply, luck is still the major factor in play with your slot games.

I agree with you completely.I think the players just like this principle of randomness and unpredictability,because there is excitement in the game.I also think that it makes no sense to look for some kind of winning schemes in slot machines, since they simply will not work.Also, you rightly noted, at the end of the day the game will always be in the plus,but the player is already questioning whether he will have a profit or not.

The truth is that this is something that intrigues me, because a skill-based slot machine sounds like one can manage or decide how to make the slot machine work,this is something that causes emotion and it would be good to try, I am a regular slot player who He doesn't bet a lot, just what is necessary and he does whatever it takes to enjoy this game, as I have said in previous threads, I am not interested in Winning money when I play slots, because I know that this is something Difficult and also a lot of money is spent looking for that profit and well, the truth is that you have to be quite insistent with the slots.

A slot game that anyone can immediately play without having to have certain skills, because you only need to play it and hope that there will be a miracle so that you can get a high multiplier or at least a result that can make you happy so you can continue playing with many more spins to come, but skill-based slots are different from traditional slots in that most of them are played, there are skills that must be possessed to be able to get good results, but I've never played them so I don't know exactly how it works, however it looks like gamblers will prefer traditional slots as they are more common.

Yes, luck is the main factor in winning slot games, but besides luck, gamblers need a strategy in managing finances so that while playing and waiting for luck to come, they don't lose more money.
Any strategy has no effect on slot games, but using strategy can give gamblers confidence so that they don't have doubts in every round they play. Using strategy can at least minimize the number of losses.
I know a lot of gamblers who don't believe in strategy in slot games, but if you play randomly it won't bring us luck or victory, friend.

Until now, nobody can prove that he becomes successful in slot games using his strategy.
In this kind of gambling, there is no other way to help us wins in slot games other than luck. And the only thing we have to do now is to know how to control our emotions and keep within our limitations. Because the more we chase winning, tempted with a huge prize, we eventually had messed up and spend more. But sad to say that only the casino wins after all, not us - gamblers.

Slot game is purely based on luck, because it was created on such way to pick the random number. The random number selection was occur only by the number in the list. The most of the gamblers involved in the gambling will accept the gambling with the luck based game. Some gamblers had an habit of creating the strategy for all the gambling games. So they also concentrate on create of the gambling games strategy also. But it’s better for trying luck on Slot games of Cryptocurrencies based one. After earning good money from crypto currency, you can hold that crypto currency for some months and then use the same cryptocurrency to do gambling to multiple the money in the gambling sites.

Indeed, the strategy does not guarantee that someone will win, friend, but at least by having a strategy, one can have confidence and have no doubts when playing.
Without belief, gamblers will hesitate and be afraid to start a round, so even though it doesn't guarantee a win, the strategy can still provide benefits for gamblers while playing, waiting for luck to come.
And the most effective strategy to be able to reduce losing more money as you said where a person must control himself and finances so that when spending money to bet does not experience mistakes that make him lose even more.

to be honest I have never played this type of skill based Slot game but in my opinion young gamblers would be more interested in playing this skill type Slot. because they are young gamblers are always curious about something new and young gamblers are usually more skilled at gambling.
I myself prefer luck or random number based slot games, because I don't have much time to test my skills.

for the type of game that you say has been explained by @serjent05. you can look there to see what you are asking about.

I think what you are referring to is different than the latest ones, the ones you are talking about were not actually skill based since the machine used to spin so fast that it used to be almost impossible to time it and even if you memorize a place to hit the button, it wouldn't give the same result every time, and I say that because I've played that a lot in the past.

The latest ones that are in the discussion are different because they are just like normal slots but when you get a bonus round, you get to play some kind of a game where you will need to score some points and I think you get free spins based on those points or something.

I think a big percent of gamblers are gambling for profit and they prioritize games which are skill-based because they have more chance to win here than the other type of games. When they discovered the slots being talked about here, they will flock here immediately and leave the traditional slots for good.

If you haven't try these new slots and you are curious about them, there is only one solution for that and that is to try them all by yourself. Reading the feedback of others will only make you more curious or excited but that can still lead you to try the game soon. If we are happy on the results, we must stop before the results change and shift our mood again from negative.

How can you say so? We cant really be that so sure if people would be flocking out on slots which are strategic based or something that could be applied with some analysis.Therefore it isnt really that

good old days where you could really just simply roll out and find some instant results but of course it does have that RTP and HE included which would determine whether you would be hitting some good
multipliers or not. Interest would really vary since its not still available in the market then we cant really tell if people would really be that interested or not.
Slot machines are something that give out instant results on every roll.If analysis would be applied then i dont know on what it looks like.

On my limited experience even those gamblers which are looking for profits still gamble at casino games in which skill is not relevant at all, this may seem odd but in fact it makes sense since many people are looking to make some easy money while they gamble.

And being able to obtain profits in a skill based game is not easy at all, the amount of effort and time you will need to invest is huge and most gamblers are not willing to do it, this also matches my experiences in which many years ago I tried to play poker with bitcoin and almost no one was interested in playing, while the casino games were always full of enthusiastic gamblers.

It is a matter of experience that later over the years it can be said that it brings skill, but in reality the skill is an innate process that develops, in this case Slots, the main thing is to learn to manage your bankroll, be aware of the time, losses, etc. 

But spinning just requires common sense and having money that you don't need to pay bills, that's a good skill to play slots.

In regarding about curiosity then it would really be just that normal that even those old or experienced ones here on gambling field would really be looking this idea to be that something that looks interesting but same

as you said that i might not really be considering for slots to be that strategic based because im not really that something into games which i do need up to think that well so that i would be able to win on high chances.Well, we do have our own interest when it comes to things but i would really be still preferring on slots which would be purely luck based and doesnt really require any thinking
and would really be just liking to see that you would be just pressing out the roll button.

I don't find any fun in trying to gamble only to get profits though I understand the fact that most gamblers have that in their minds when they gamble or play a game, but if you think about it when your mind is set only on one target which is to get a certain amount of profit from a gambling session, believe me, you will find it harder to hit any wins at all.

When it comes to skill-based gambling games, most people simply don't want to use their brains especially if they are gambling. All a gambler wants is to make a spin and get a huge multiplier and go home happy instead of sitting for long at one table trying to beat a player more experienced than you.