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March 29, 2023, 10:14:02 AM
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I looks good like a idea but in reality it won't work. There is no serious casino which will take this in consideration when they don't have fixed margin of profit. Also as I have heard regulation around gambling are very strict so it will hard in general to implement this.

OP isn't talking about whether or not skill based slot machines are going to be implemented. There are skill based slot machines in some Las Vegas casinos right now, so implementation won't be a problem.
I don't know anything about skill based slots, here's what I get from the first article that appeared on Google search results.

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A key element of skill-based machines, and what differentiates them from traditional slot machines, is customers aren’t playing against the machine (or a dealer), they’re playing against each other. The outcome is based upon skill, rather than chance alone.

It seems that such slot machines are player vs. player which can be quite entertaining. I prefer playing against other gamblers, rather than sitting in front of a slot machine and trying to win the jackpot. Unfortunately, there aren't any skill based slot machines in my country.
Maybe they will be imported in the future.
Another thing is that the millennials aren't the most active players. The older hardcore slots players are more active on skill based slots than the millennials. 

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March 29, 2023, 11:03:21 AM
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They have the name Skill added to it but I don't see any skill can be applied on the slot to win the game, its just another round of spin so the chance matters here so its still zero skill and pure luck when it comes to slot. I think they use it to trick players by giving an extra round where the results are still going to be random and no skill to be applied with it.









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March 29, 2023, 11:22:16 AM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?
I guess that I already heard this before but still thanks for bringing this up again. This is a great awareness for others who didn't know this yet. If I were to choose I think I will still go with the classic slots or those slots who are based on luck because I am not really that skillful.

The odds are still stacked up against the players because most of the games are still based on luck and I think in a skill based slot game, the bonus round is much harder to trigger because there are players who are skillful and have prepared for it to gain an advantage. In crypto, there must be slot games who don't use RNG but uses a provably fair system and other blockchain/crypto related tools to identify a result. I also prefer these as I think they are more trusted.

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March 29, 2023, 11:42:03 AM
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They have the name Skill added to it but I don't see any skill can be applied on the slot to win the game, its just another round of spin so the chance matters here so its still zero skill and pure luck when it comes to slot. I think they use it to trick players by giving an extra round where the results are still going to be random and no skill to be applied with it.
There's no skill involved when you do pull out that level or pushing that roll button on which there's no way that you could be able to apply any strategy into it.This is why its not really that something possible to have this kind of skill based slot machine.If ever there's one would be created then i would be curious on how it would really be applied and it would be somewhat interesting if ever this one is possible.
I cant really think off on how this thing could really be that possible considering that slots are code generated and each roll is really something that it is really that totally random.
There's no way you could apply any tactics or ways on increasing your winning chance.

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March 29, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
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I have never tried it and don't even know what a skill based slot machine is like because as far as I know, slot games are just luck based. And if you are unlucky, you lose. But if something could offer the perks of getting a spin bonus like @OP said, I suspect some gamblers are willing to try it. Gamblers will always look for something new that can provide an opportunity to win from gambling because they have often experienced defeat. Since I didn't know the type of skill-based slot machine yet, I still favored the traditional slots found in online casinos.
I don't also want to go too deep with that. Slots are better to remain as luck based and if there have been some changes made by the slots providers or any developer to make it just as skilled based game, I don't think that it will click. There's already the belief that it's a luck based game and that's the fun starts. I have not known any casinos that do have it but if there's the reinvention on this, those who wants to try, may try it if that's what you want. I'll just stick to what I've used to.
Slot game changes usually depend on each provider and the casino only puts it on their site. But usually, you've seen that providers give new names to their slot games that are different from previous games. But if there really is a skill-based slot game, I want to see it first before I try it because I think we should know how to play the skill-based slot game. But if not, I'm still satisfied playing luck-based slot games because in my opinion, slot games are stressful Grin
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March 29, 2023, 12:14:17 PM
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Okay, this is just dumb, yes it indicated that bonus rounds that depend on skill exist, but what skill? What are the specifics or rules/laws behind the bonus round itself? Other than specifying that it was a "skill-based" kind, nothing else appeared. There are a LOT of things that a "skill-based" indication covers. Honestly would have liked it better if it elaborated more on what criteria they choose on "skill-based", or at least, specify what it actually is for some examples.

In my own assumption though, I reckon skill-based means something similar to games provided in arcades? Since it's probably by far the easiest to implement in land-based casinos. If you're a fan of arcades, you'd probably know about fighting booths, rhythm ones, or even the most simplest ones similar to Mario or Tetris. If it was like that then it is rather interesting.

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March 29, 2023, 03:04:19 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 

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March 29, 2023, 04:20:11 PM
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Okay, this is just dumb, yes it indicated that bonus rounds that depend on skill exist, but what skill? What are the specifics or rules/laws behind the bonus round itself? Other than specifying that it was a "skill-based" kind, nothing else appeared. There are a LOT of things that a "skill-based" indication covers. Honestly would have liked it better if it elaborated more on what criteria they choose on "skill-based", or at least, specify what it actually is for some examples.

In my own assumption though, I reckon skill-based means something similar to games provided in arcades? Since it's probably by far the easiest to implement in land-based casinos. If you're a fan of arcades, you'd probably know about fighting booths, rhythm ones, or even the most simplest ones similar to Mario or Tetris. If it was like that then it is rather interesting.
I also didn't understand this and I have no idea of what skills are involved on the process. All I see is that the called skill based slots machines have an extra bonus round mechanism to allow gamblers to raise their chances of profit a little bit. But I doubt there are arcade games' mechanisms involved on this process. The furthest interaction I've seen with slot machines is the possibility of choosing a card or secret icon from a selection of few of them.

Still, it shouldn't be considered a skill, since the result is based on pure luck. If you are lucky you are going to pick a card with a nice reward, if not, you are going to receive the worst reward or no rewards at all...

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March 29, 2023, 04:32:27 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots are more of a quick gamble just for fun. 

I didn't even know that skill-based slot machines exist. I'm just wondering how it works and what skills are required to win on it. I also prefer the excitement that traditional slots could give. I'm actually contented with it and I don't see any problem with slots aside from it being quite addictive. Innovations could happen in gambling but there are developments that lose the essence of entertainment in the gambling industry.
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March 29, 2023, 04:37:50 PM
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The term skill-based slot is a bit of a misnomer. I've read the article and nowhere does it say that the player's skills are involved in securing profits for themselves, only that through these "skill-based slot games", they'd be able to use an ability or a powerup per se every now and then, which goes towards amping the amount of profit one can receive, but never really helping the player in any way whatsoever with securing said profits.

This is a massive clickbait for me, and most likely for most of the people who looked into it coz the first impression one can have upon hearing "skill-based slot games" is a slot game where they completely control the outcome of the game in some way. Which this is clearly not. So no, i don't necessarily recommend it, but people can try.

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March 29, 2023, 05:03:36 PM
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The first thing comes to my mind when I read skill based slot machine is that does it even exist?
I havent read the linked article but I doubt that slot can be played with skills as it is pure luck based as players are unable to increase the winning chance.
Someone here said that it is like a pvp slot games, but even if it is pvp based game, what kind of skills is needed to play slot machine?
I think the term skill based slot machine is just a marketing word to attract slot lover who might be curious about it.

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March 29, 2023, 05:39:52 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
From the feedback I've read, I still don't understand and understand about skill-based slots. I think all slot games are the same, there's no such thing as skill-based slots.
OP said skill-based slots provide more bonuses and have a greater chance of winning but for bonuses of all types of slot games there are always bonuses that gamblers can get and for bigger winning opportunities like not because slots are games that rely on luck if there is a way or strategy to increase the chances of new wins I believe but if the skill base provides bigger opportunities it's ridiculous.

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March 29, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
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I looks good like a idea but in reality it won't work. There is no serious casino which will take this in consideration when they don't have fixed margin of profit. Also as I have heard regulation around gambling are very strict so it will hard in general to implement this.
Taking a look at then and what is happening then can nit be compared to now that everything had changed and many casinos would never wanted to adopt that pattern because it's not going to give them a good amount of Money to continue the business. So many things are involved now that the government would never wanted to spared a dime from the tax they collect from casinos for the operation to keep working. When you look at how much casinos paid for all those services, none would want to follow the traditional patterns.or anyone that would not have a fixed amount they will be getting.









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March 29, 2023, 06:17:36 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

It might help if you describe what you consider to be a skill based slot machines, because often they are just carefully orchestrated illusions to give the player "control". At the end of the day, the businesses putting these machines out there have running costs and also want to make a profit, so there is always going to be a limit to the amount they will let a player win. This paradox clearly points to the fact that they are only skill based to a limit and no amount of disguising can change that fact. It would be fun to see more pinball-type machines making a comeback in future, but maybe they'll only allow a player to play for longer than usual rather than making a monetary gain.

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March 29, 2023, 08:11:46 PM
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People comment on the topic, but it seems to me that many do not read the previous comments, or read what OP posted.

...Basically, arcade games turned into gambling games...

...As I understand skill-based slots can be only played in land-based casinos, the first one is installed in Las Vegas. I will check if there are some online skill-based slots, especially available for playing with crypto.

I tried to find an online skill-based slot but looks like that skill-based slots are only available in land-based casinos (Las Vegas, and some other US states). Maybe I missed something, but it's what I got from my search.

And this is exactly what makes all this interesting. When we will see the first skill-based slots available for playing with crypto? I would like to play some arcade games from the past with some stakes... Smiley

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March 29, 2023, 08:21:56 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
From the feedback I've read, I still don't understand and understand about skill-based slots. I think all slot games are the same, there's no such thing as skill-based slots.
OP said skill-based slots provide more bonuses and have a greater chance of winning but for bonuses of all types of slot games there are always bonuses that gamblers can get and for bigger winning opportunities like not because slots are games that rely on luck if there is a way or strategy to increase the chances of new wins I believe but if the skill base provides bigger opportunities it's ridiculous.
All of us would really be puzzled on how these things could really be applied.Just like the rest on where slot games are really  that something cant be determined on how you would
win up.We are looking for those combinations which are really that in result into each random roll and there's no way that we could be able to think up on how it would
work on this way.Skill based slot machines? If ever this one would be invented then this one would be the first ever and might be able to get that
good marketshare.

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March 29, 2023, 10:43:43 PM
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This kind of idea still looks new to my understanding, which often plays slots in online games, even in relation to traditional slots though. Bonus rounds which are classified as skill-based still feel confusing to me, because generally slots rely more on luck not skill and it is different in the case of poker card gambling or the like.

If this concept really existed, I think that any profit returned to the house or gambling company would be problematic, because skill would allow people to understand game patterns, so gambling houses have a much greater chance of losing and players will easily learn the technicalities.

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March 29, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
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I don't also want to go too deep with that. Slots are better to remain as luck based and if there have been some changes made by the slots providers or any developer to make it just as skilled based game, I don't think that it will click. There's already the belief that it's a luck based game and that's the fun starts. I have not known any casinos that do have it but if there's the reinvention on this, those who wants to try, may try it if that's what you want. I'll just stick to what I've used to.
Slot game changes usually depend on each provider and the casino only puts it on their site. But usually, you've seen that providers give new names to their slot games that are different from previous games. But if there really is a skill-based slot game, I want to see it first before I try it because I think we should know how to play the skill-based slot game.
The names are just different but they all end with the same mechanics and game style. But if ever there's really one that can change into a skilled base, I don't know if I can project that in my mind.

But if not, I'm still satisfied playing luck-based slot games because in my opinion, slot games are stressful Grin
Actually, it's both stressful and fun at the same. And we're just familiar with the luck based type and that's more acceptable so something new is quite unfamiliar with but given the long time of its existence, it will eventually be known.

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From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

This is very interesting- I have never heard nor encountered a "skill-based slot machine" type of game since it is generally known as a game where it involves pure luck. The problem with slots is that you have no control over the process to which it arrives at a result. You push the lever and hope for the best that it lands on triple 7s, etc.

Now that the world is changing and innovations are being introduced daily, I wonder how they can introduce and integrate skill in a game on which it is based purely on luck. Though if this were to happen, I would still avoid slots due to its very nature and core relying purely and solely on luck rather than skill.

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They have the name Skill added to it but I don't see any skill can be applied on the slot to win the game, its just another round of spin so the chance matters here so its still zero skill and pure luck when it comes to slot. I think they use it to trick players by giving an extra round where the results are still going to be random and no skill to be applied with it.

Skill is something you applied based on your study to come out with the desired results I don't see it here it's still random you still have to rely on luck so where is skill comes to play here, I cannot imagine luck-based games turning into skill-based games, with players employing a consistent method to win, because luck-based games are casinos' bread and butter, will they allow that?
It's a game-changer for the casino industry and it will turn the tide against casinos, the casinos can lose their business.

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