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Beware of scammers!!
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How secure do you feels when unknown user chats you and immediately begins to demand of your country where your chatting from?
What do you think could be their reason for chatting you up and instantly demanding your country of residence, does this makes any sense and how do you cope with such question or do you feels that such user has an evils motives towards you to either scam you or harm.
What are likelihood of this user not wanting to scam me because of his or her questions.

Sorry if this post doesn't belong here but I felt I should share to people for them to be aware how scammers operates in order to scam us due to our insecurities and being to open to them.

The screenshot above fully explain our discussion and immediately he noticed I wasn't being friendly to him he decided to runaway without going further, however I never thought of giving my username to anyone to chat me up or even negotiates deal with anybody, i saw this after i finished bathing my baby this morning.

Please I would love to get your reasoning concerning his or her actions.

Caps lock, sir sir, using fake profile, and no point discussion, do you really think it's a good reason to believe the user is legit? a beautiful girl will not contact your first because they have a high prestige and egoism.

Do you offer a service in online and you're mention your telegram in order to reach you? if not, there's no reason to reply a stranger. I always avoid or delete all of stranger reply to my accounts.

It is almost always a question of the intention of fraud. The conversation usually starts with a short introduction, an inquiry about personal life and, if possible, giving a certain dose of empathy. It's actually a psychological game and it's trying to gain some kind of trust.
Everything is actually preparation for what follows, proposing a very profitable investment, business or whatever. Because you will more easily accept and believe in advice from someone you already know in some way. if you are a little more inert, it will be harder for you to tell him to screw up, and he will use that to pressure you to give in and believe his proposals.

If, for example, you would slow down the conversation or answer only briefly, the business proposal would arrive quite quickly, without further intimation. still want to try because you are responsive and didn't block him immediately.

Always keep in mind why a complete stranger would contact you and propose a super profitable job or investment. That doesn't even happen in fairy tales, there is always a final motive.
If such things bother you, right-click on the username and the "block" option is the solution. You should not allow any harassment from unknown people on the Internet

Why do you even communicate with strangers that way? I understand that things like this cannot be avoided if you sell something online or offer some virtual services, but if you leave your contact around, then you can't expect anything other than that all kinds of strange people (scammers) will contact you.

If I were you, that chat would end after one or two messages, and that user would be blocked. It's not that I'm afraid that someone will deceive me or something similar, but I consider such things a complete waste of time.

I am fully secure in my view. I remember a person that chatted with me after I joined a telegram group, telling me that he is from Brazil and introduced me to meta trade or something. I laughed and start to take his time too. Where it landed is a lie from me to have a physical visit with me in my country. It ended as nothing, no scam success because I knew he was a scammer even before the start of our conversation. Nothing like online friends to me, they are all scammers and they have not disappointed me before not to be a good person. Recently I got busier and I just ignor strangers. I did not also join groups again and nothing like new stranger 's messaging.

On telegram you will see these profiles with female picture in the profile and usually not in another group with you - raises the question how they got your user ID to contact you. This is because of you are in a group, predatory people take the user IDs from there and spam every one of those with tempting messages from a different user id, so the other one remains in the group as an innocent bystander profile, pretty much a sockpuppet advantage that telegram gives them.

You can be assured that these are all scammers so block them on their first message and never reply back, it is a waste of time to do so.

Just as have said earlier, I have never involved myself with any online services or in dishing out my contact information to anyone else to contact me, as a matter of fact I was very surprised seeing such activity.

Maybe next when you found out his intentions weren't of good thoughts then blocking him or her would have been the best options.
Technically no learned and pretty female will chat you up and began to ask after your country without any any business deal or negotiation and transactions. To me is very suspicious and too risky to continue communicating with her before you could fall victim of being scammed, next is to block such people except in a case were you shared your contact to such person then you guys could continue discussion.

Perhaps the user is feeling lonely in a new country and needs a local as a penpal.

Jokes aside, could he have located you by searching your Telegram handle which might be the same as your username here?

This would be surprising to me, but other than that, my next action would be blacklisting the user.
Even if you want to sell or buy something, the conversation should always stay on topic. If you notice deviations from the topic, it indicates that something is wrong with the interlocutor.
Scammers catch naive people talking, but it's already 2023; it's rather strange to talk to strangers. Time ICQ has long passed.

There is no security risk at the point of you receiving an unsolicited PM, i don't think there's any user who hasn't received such before, what matters is how you handle it or if you have the already existing knowledge about the modus operandi of scammers. I discovered that Bitcointalk forum users know how to detect and evade scam pretty easily because of the knowledge we garner here, but you'd be surprised at the number of people who fall for all this, or who don't know that if something is too good to be true, then it's prolly a scam.

Having said that, as long as you don't click random links from strangers, send them money, invest in whatever they offer or even continue a conversation with them, then you can't be scammed.

Heres some precautions you could probably use to give further assurance of your data safety in the future:

• Have a separate crypto TG --and social media-- from your personal life
• Check the username of anyone chatting you privately out of nowhere
• If there were none, it might be better for you to probably just ignore them straight away
• If they have a username, search that TG handlers here on the forum, either by search feature (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search) or through ninjastic (https://ninjastic.space/), the result would pretty much give you a good idea of how trustworthy the person is
• A little bit no-brainer but... don't share your personal ID to anyone, unless you really trust them

That account will go straight to block and report if they chatted me, I won't even bother replied them, done that numerous times.

My answer to him was based on his questions so I was wanting to know his motives if he noticed I told him I am from his country. But No! I am not his country because I wasn't secure enough to tell him my location that's was why I responded him that way.

Since I first open an account on Telegram I received almost more than 30 messages that are similar to what you posted, they may look very friendly to you but it's a big modus to gain your trust they will not tell you right away but they want you to be convenient after a few hours of convenient talk when you are comfortable with him/her they started talking about sites or platform that where they made a huge profit, even to the extent of showing his account and earnings, this is their way to entice you to invest.

If you are not aware of this scheme you will likely fall, I have Bitcointalk to thank for exposing this telegram schemes
My advice shut off all communications from unknown people on Telegram, telegram is not a good place to make friends you have no idea what his intention is, and Telegram is not a dating place, it's a platform for people with similar interests.

When its someone who knows you like a friend online or personally knows you, they will immediately say something for the conversation to start and not just saying Hi hello.

Ignore them and that''s how to secure yourself. If you see someone just saying Hi and hello, that is someone who wants to waste time. A person who has a purpose of chatting you will immediately pitch what they are offering and then you can immediately say no. End of story.

I personally don't give opportunities to scammers who want to chat with me privately, I don't give opportunities and blocking their channels is my main goal.

But I don't block them right away, I will let them continue chatting and see where the chat progresses, if the chat goes off scale and leads to suspicious actions, of course the block button is my main target, but if users I don't know want to chat and ask good things, that's certainly not a reason for me to block them.

But if they are really scammers, I also don't let them continue chatting with me. they had little trouble talking to me, what more purpose to cheat.

I'm not sure why you'd try to take the time to reply to few messages with someone you suspect might be. If I were you, I would block that user from the first message, no matter how pretty they look.

Then one other question, What does this thread have to do with reputation, does the user you spoke to on telegram have an account on bitcointalk and is trying to scam you or something? If this thread make for warning for attempted fraud unrelated to bitcointalk, then I hope you can move it to Begginers and Help or to the appropriate board.

You didn't mention specific location so no worries. Almost every time I receive a message, Telegram users are very interested in knowing which country I live in now. Actually these are fraudsters they use different fake names and profile pictures to lure others and try to scam them in different ways. So after receiving such questions on Telegram it is safe to block them without continuing the conversation.

it doesn't really look like its a scammer but if he waste his time with the chatter, he will find out whats its is up to.

seem nothing to worry. OP gives so much worries to this when he can just stop replying to that chat and even block the user. a girl named Sai looks beauty anyone would agree to that. unless OP is waiting for the intimate conversation and probably a phone sex after it, i can understand he wants to chat as well.  :D

Isn't that why they always choose a random beautiful Korean girl to possibly prolong the discussion and most times stay off topic in order to gain more attention? It's easier for a woman to end such conversation and move on, but trust me some men are moved by what they see and whether you like it or not, there are tons of men who fall for this cheap girls carp on TG.

There are still many men who send nudes to random strangers online; they are the type who are easily duped by this type of scam. This type of scam is common on TG, and I'm sure it pays, which is why it's still around.

I'm the type of guy who talks to them until they run out of words, then tells them to fck off and blocks them.

I think I'm almost exactly like you, mate.  :D

I realized that starting a conversation like that was a waste of time because in the end we know what the motives were. But in a way, it's okay to serve with them for a while just for fun purposes. I realized no pretty woman would approach someone first without motive behind it, so in conclusion block them and tell them to leave.  ;D

I think they want to know your country of residence so they can tell you they are from the same country and they live in the next city, I think that’s their strategy to build trust with their targets. At first they act as if they are genuinely interested in getting to know you, once they think they have you on the hook they start talking about a profitable investments they have going. Entertaining these scammers is a waste of time, just click the block button and be done with it.

I have no such time to exchange with what i know too well won't benefits me instead of wasting my time paying nonsense attention to them. I know there is a sense out of nonsense but no all is good to pay any at all, rather i would use such time to start reading bunch of post here that would benefits me and increased my knowledge. Keep following up kudos sir!

Asians have strict rules, and from my experience, one thing women will never do is approach a man first; forget what you see in movies; it never happens in real life lol. When I see such chat, I laugh and give the scammer the attention he deserves.


Sometimes it's good to feed the trolls

if you do have a business that publishes your telegram. or are in a certain trade group, indeed usually there will be a telegram account with a sexy girl profile sending you messages to talk about business.
I also got several such messages in my telegram account, and I never responded to them. because I never contacted them. most of the accounts talk about trading and investing. that must be because I follow several channels and trading groups. maybe you too.
when they are serious about doing business with you, I'm sure they won't come to your telegram.

Yeah.. that's cool for someone who is less busy maybe wanting to find out the main objective of that user and also to know their tricks to be extremely cautious next time if such chat happens to appear without her given out her contact details. Thought you are absolutely correct just toiling with him would be the best.

You're online secure if someone should PM you on the forum or somewhere on other platforms aside this one and you either remain mute about it without giving any response or view it and never give out any vital information about yourself or keys to your wallet in other for them not to gain an entry point, some generate a random set of numbers and message them, but not everything you received you must react to.

I'm well secured. First, my phone number is hidden so that no one can see it. I don't reply PMs to strangers, as they come I block and report the person. Sometime, you can just drop a message on the group requesting for help or guidance on a particular issue. Before you know it, a scammer would send you an unsolicited PM claiming to be an admin of the group and wanting to dope you by sending you a cloned website, fake wallet address, fake contract address, phishing links etc.

To be honest with you all, I do not even bother to deal with strangers talking to me on Telegram, before I tried to see whether they were scammers or not (as soon as they started to talk about Crypto and Bitcoin) but now I have grown so tired of those people and as soon as some unsolicited message comes my way from someone I do not know, I block them.

In the case of someone I know, I avoid clicking on any link and downloading any file they sent.

As simple as that it is avoid getting scammed in Telegram and Whatsapp.  ::)

Your security depends on how much personal information you disclose and how sensitive those pieces of information are.
Such information (country, name, date of birth) may seem useless for you but it can be used in social engineering attacks or in blackmailing. A malicious entity can also impersonate you if he knows enough about you. So better know with whom you talk and what personal details you share with them.

Besides, it's common sense for someone who can't acts you first to introduce himself before starting asking personal questions.
From the conversation you shared, the one talking with is most likely a troll. Just ignore him.

One thing am always certain about is that they will always call for your attempts in responding to what they are offering you, be it good or bad, but i think there's a simple way to always restrict newbies or any user from sending you indescriminate PMs, should anyone am not familiar with is chatting me, then i try to study the intention he brings while doing that and quickly judge him base on the content of what he's sending

If it's from social media you can check the profile to see how old the account is and using the right account or just a fake profile but when it comes to Telegram you have no option to check if the account is true because there are no profiles to check I only use Telegram to check groups and before you can do a conversation with me you have to pm me on Bitcointalk and you should have an account on Bitcointalk to have a long conversation with me.

If you were contacted by someone you do not know, it only indicates that you are not secure and that your private information has been compromised. These fraudsters can be found everywhere, including in emails, Twitter, and Telegram. Yesterday, someone fake with the same username or handle posing as the manager of my signature campaign deceived me. It was only eleven dollars, yet it likewise reminded me to be more cautious particularly when the discussions involved are about money. Due to the ease with which accounts can be created on a variety of social media and communication platforms, the only action we can take is to report them as spam.

That is why it is good to treat every stranger online as a scammer until they prove otherwise.
Someone that happened not to know you in real life can not bring you fortune online.
There are no l Santa Claus online, what happens is they try to rip you by introducing a fake investment opportunity.
It is better to 100% avoid strangers .
However, there are genuine people online, but you must have to be with them for so many time in order to develop that trust and whatever you do online should be a teamwork and not expressely financial deals that will rely on one person to be delivered

I think they ask for the country one is chatting them from to know if one is from the region/country they think is susceptible to gullibility and can easily dole out cash when demanded. You even tried engaging them (I'm sure that was a male. Don't mind the female profile picture on display). I don't waste time with them. For me, anyone that chats me up first raises my inner antenna to suspect a scammer is on the loose. The next few sentences they make will be the decider for me. I hate to indulge and waste time with them.

I prefer to respond only to private messages from individuals who are part of the same forum or group as me in the space. Moreover, I limit our conversations to the topics relevant to that particular group and avoid divulging personal information. Generally, I keep my interactions with such individuals at an acquaintance level and refrain from taking them beyond that. Although there may be instances where some individuals may pretend to be of the opposite gender and attempt to sway my decision, I prefer to maintain our interactions solely through chatting and avoid audio or video calls. Past experiences have taught me to be cautious.

If you have some time on your hands it probably would have been a good way to spend a few hours chatting away until either you or the scammer (who is pretending to be a woman) gets bored  ;D
 

Telegram is like a house to scammers; they will pretend to be good people just to get your attention and see if they can scam you; this format has already been cast, which is why I delete and block any strange inbox from a strange user, especially if they talk about any investment, especially cryptocurrency investment, because I know they are liars and will try their hardest to get you scammed by making false promises that can never be fulfilled.

Even here, I would be too pessimistic. You can call me a sociopath, but the people on the internet are not the people we meet offline. It all depends on the size of the victim. Scammers can seem like decent people for a very long time, and you can even do some business with them, but one day, something unforeseen will happen when a decent person turns into a very professional scammer.
Therefore, all other people's letters and other people's proposals that come from strangers must either be filtered with a magnifying glass or completely ignored.
I would even go so far as to say that chatting via telegram and accidentally clicking on links can lead to the full disclosure of your identity, and further problems can be expected as a result.

There are very determined individuals and groups that are using all sorts of apps as well as social media to try to have people (victims) send money to them.

I lost count of the number of times myself and people I know were contacted by strangers saying they were multimillionaires in waiting who needed $10,000 or $5,000 to pay for legal fees in order to claim their inheritance and they said they would return the amount with a bonus.

Your advice about accidentally disclosing private information is something that is a real possibility therefore engaging with determined scammers is probably not recommended even if you are confident like Igebotz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448368.msg62074404#msg62074404) mentioned here.

Using a photo of a beautiful girl and starting small talk is an old motif that is commonly known by many. Scammers don't start the conversation to the point, they will make the atmosphere more fluid and when he believes you are starting to get trapped he will direct you to things that drain the contents of the wallet.
Lucky you quickly realize it, he started to leave before the main mission launched. If you have never shared your telegram with anyone you don't know, be aware they may be part of some bad people who are looking for victims.

Usually, I don't answer strangers on social media or Messenger unless they say something I might be interested in answering. Back in the old days, I got a lot of Dm's like this asking where I am from and what I do for a living. Then they offered to invest in a business where I could make tons of money quickly. This is an old method to scam people. I believe people are getting smarter over time. But people who get convinced by their offer and get scammed are always around.

This week I got two emails from an unknown email containing a free Bitcoin PDF file. This is a potential scam attempt as well. I would suggest not to respond strangers in messenger-type platforms and emails as well. This could end up sadly. Always be careful with that.

The fun fact: Most of those DM's come from beautiful ladies. All of them are working as managers in some companies.

Because the leaders of these scam groups know that the majority of investors are males and they know their weaknesses, the way they introduce themselves is scripted they have a ready script on all that they are going to say and conversations that they will encounter, so if you're not aware of this scheme, you are a willing victim.

The only way to secure yourself through these dummies is to shut them down, don't engage protect yourself, and don't fall into temptation.

I wonder how many people still fall for those types of scams nowadays? Without a doubt it must be bringing in some sort of income for them otherwise they would have disappeared. The medium changed from emails to instant messenger and scammers still attempt it trying to stay one step ahead of the curve.

There is no reason to cater to an unknown user who initiates a conversation regardless of the reason.
I just came across a scam link with the same motive as the OP mentioned. Initially the victim was contacted by scammers via Telegram. Then after successfully convincing the victim, the scammer immediately asked the woman to invest her money in cryptocurrency by promising big returns.

Source: Hong Kong retiree loses HK$7 million in 2 months in online cryptocurrency investment scam (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3216901/hong-kong-retiree-loses-nearly-hk7-million-2-months-online-cryptocurrency-investment-scam)

As I wrote earlier, scammers will try their best to scam and some are probably very determined to do it. It is up to the individual to try to protect themselves from losing any funds they have saved. These traps are still very common and it must be a painful lesson to learn when the victim realises they have been scammed.

I assume the Number is not tiny at all. Suppose you see a scam method working for a long time. That means it has a higher success rate. They must make good money out of it. They target crypto users, Gamblers and traders. Most people are smart now. But, every day, crypto users are increasing and new people are joining. They might never see such an offer before, and they might think it's real. It's easy for newbies to fall into these type of scams. Scammers updating their communication script so they can manipulate their targets.

Scammer everywhere especially in telegram, In One week I receive at least 2-4 Scammer as you mention before. Sometimes I direct blocked and report as spammer but If I have plenty of time I follow what he/she said. Just for play of course.

Sometimes they introduce themself and then talk about where do u live I usually answer southeast Asia and then if we continue chatting he will give some HYIP(High Yield Investment Program) and offer high APY and said that he got rich from the site.  ;D ;D What a joke.

But usually Im gonna using incognito browser and using VPN like always and check it and WHO is screenshoot and send to em. and boom the scammer delete all the previous message and gone.


Be Safe guys and if you find one just do little plat with them

I am not afraid chatting with strangers as I already have my ground on that. I never fall fir strangers like that when it comes to having conversations of such nature. It gives me more experience in tackling such situations in the nearest future if any of them comes my way but one thing I know is that i for sure make them give me their information by themselves when we covers. So I do not loose anything if they think they want to scam themselves and not me.

So funny how they use profile pictures of people to wanting to scam people thinking it is that easy to  scam some one just like that only if that person is a new bie in the system that is when the person becomes penetrable by them.

2-4 scam attempts a week? It's a pretty high number compared to others. I am wondering how many groups you are joined. Usually, those scammers come from Crypto and gambling-related groups. They follow the group members and target them. If you are in some groups where you are not interested anymore, consider leaving them. The number of messages from strangers will decrease day by day. Also, you may change your telegram handle as it's easy to do.

HYIP Scam is the most successful scam on the internet (I assume). It's easy to fool new people who recently started searching for how to make money from the internet. Unfortunately, this scam still works, and people lose money for their greediness. I usually asked them how much they made daily in the old days. Why not invest yourself and double it every day? Why are you wasting time here?

You are right sir
I have tried my best not to give them attention anymore because I see nothing meaningful from them, most especially that doesn't ends of them knowing where one is chatting from or what amount of bitcoin I am holding, I have always been asked this question from cheap scammers and whenever I sense this blocking them straight always right option. Its very annoying someone inbox you and begin to asked about your crypto holdings or what forms of currency I am holding is very worrisome and suspicious.

It all depends on the context at which they are contacting you about, if you're receiving a PM from unknown user and he's trying to invite you on a tricky scheme that may involve investment which you know not about it, then try to be vigilant because that may be their first initiation to defraud you, waste your time and effort or get your private informations and use them against you, the best action to take is to ignore and block such user making a physhing attempt on you, because once you respond, you give them more go ahead permit to continue and they may finally gets you.

Most scammers find their victims by joining large groups and fishing for random names inside them, then repeat with the next batch of users, and so on.

Most people don't respond to these degens, but they usually get their hands successfully on maybe a dozen or half a dozen of people, for their illegal scams.

OP should also block incoming calls from Telegram from all users except for manually whitelisted users. Keeps annoying people out of your phone.

Ignore them and let the Scammers bark like dogs, when you don't give them a chance they will bite finger. When you smell a suspicious aroma, believe you are on the Scammers watch. The best way you should do to secure assets is by not giving them access, only you can protect your assets. Never let your guard down.

Immediately I receive Dm from strangers, the first thing that comes to my mind is that the user is a scammer, so am always careful with the way we communicate, immediately you start asking me suspicious questions, if you are not lucky I will block you immediately but if you are lucky or maybe am bored, and I want to whine away time, I will reply you but I will have the mind set that you want to scam me so I know things that I will tell you.

Whenever we receive Dm on social media we all have to be careful, most of them are scammers, most of them might be offering you different things, don’t trust them they just want to steal from you, most especially on Telegram, if you receive any message on telegram and the user is sending you links to connect your wallet, or website to input your details, just report and block the user immediately.

Whatever they may demand or motive there may be it's easy to block'em up online. Unless I know the person personally or I initiated the chat first, I block' em on first account.

I used to do lot of timepass with scammers on telegram, apparently they reported me and now I'm blocked myself.

Using just an ordinary dp of a beautiful lady while chatting you up is very common and a crooked way most scammers have adopted using before how, but the issue now is that we all know that anyone can impose another person and chat you up, but you need to create time to make your personal findings on how they got your contact in the first place, where and how? what's the major purpose of them contacting you, what are they saying and where are they heading to, and we must be very sensitive not to reveal any of our identity to them while chatting us or give out our private information to them and when we dee they are going off the limit we should avoid responding back to their chat and block them.

Nowadays scammers come in varying unsuspecting ways that if one is not careful you might get caught up in their web leaving you in a situation where you wouldn't even believe or realize  when you have given out vital informations about yourself and other financial private contacts. The best remedy is that from the onset of the conversation and it's not going based on business grounds but rathers inquisitive about oneself just cut off the conversation and blacklist. Else you may be making yourself a victim of scam.
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In as much as you uses the social media platforms you can't avoid coming across scammers and that's why it's expedient we keep alert and always check for red flags kind of conversation and know when to terminate it as soon as possible.

I also don't beat around the bush and spend a lot of time with anyone I don't know on social media. I mean, it doesn't matter if they just want to be friends or maybe have some questions worth responding to, but when the motive is money, I think I should block them too first.

Obviously blocking them is the recommended first step when they are not people we know or have interacted with on other platforms. This can prevent the risk of having auto-download links/ file sent to your device when you interact with that user, especially when you don't have do not auto-download any file setting preference. Did someone think of the risk?

Yea, first thing I do upon installing telegram/whatsapp on new device is to to disable automatic media download, although I started doing this in start just to save useless spending of Internet data, apparently doing thus has more benefits than just that.

We know quite well that scammers are everywhere, and it's obvious that the gravity of scammers is like bacteria living in every living environment, we can know when unknown user chat us from our DM, if you don't have any ongoing or existing plans of investment and unknown user on your DM is emphasising on investment and gives he/her investment tablets plans, which you know quite well that you have not negotiate or had any investment discussion with anyone, I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.

Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.

Greed is the true nature of human beings, so sometimes it is hard to avoid for some non-experienced users who are just starting their journey in the crypto space. In fact I think that scammers these days are targeting pigs, I mean big investors being their main target for launching attacks instead of retail traders.

Ignoring even the slightest attempt at scam and blocking it is a smart move instead of spending some time listening and following its evil intentions.

The cause of all these, is that everyone is inquisitive to make money, its only few people that will not be victims of this kind of investment that will triple your capital, but they doesn't think of the disadvantages aspect of it because of greediness, that's to say without bitcointalk community that helps to dispense information of scammers many people would have been scammed by now because of greediness, I want us to know that many people are looking for short-cut or the shortest of making money that's the while many falls for the trap of scammers, as I said before that only remedy to run out of scammers is when they send you their investment proposal you ignore it, and also block the means of been connected to you, because my said that you want or need, is what your enemies will get you with. So therefore we need to take precautions and peruse or scrutinised to any investment platform by research before investing to avoid scam.

Sometimes whenever a chat comes up I just feel like getting to know the user immediately because it might be someone who meant well or probably someone who wants to get something from you, could be a vital information or could be a scammer as the case maybe.
To me I'd let the chat flow and I might even play to the tune of the unknown user, but giving out information from my end won't be possible until the intention of the user has been stated and one needs to be careful. I feel anxious sometimes when an unknown message pops up from someone I don't know even here in this forum.

I don't remember how many random messages I have received and deleted, I can only deduce the way they found me that the potential victims who fall under the radar of these types of scammers are those who usually join business and investment groups. Anyone who has never done business via telegram may naturally create their own protection making it unreachable.

I think those of us who are dedicated in the crypto space will not be able to avoid their attempts to trap us.

I am aware of these issues. There are some unknown Telegram members who send me PM messages from time to time and claim themselves as CEOs or managers of various companies. And at first he tries to know about my personal things like what is my name?, what do I do?, what country do I live in and all that. And after knowing these things he offers me various jobs and at first he doesn't mention any money but later after talking for some time he says to transfer some amount to his account and when asked what I will pay for in his account. Then his reply came saying that in exchange of that money he will give me an account through which I can work in his company. I have never fallen for these spammers. I always thought they were a complete scam.

The high rate of crime and scams in the world has made everyone to be security conscious. I remember receiving a chat from my lecturer and she didn't introduce herself properly. She started asking for my details so that they can be used for some official purpose in school. I responded very rudely and cut the phone. She had to call back because she knew I can't be that rude to her. This time she introduced herself ad I apologized to her. Now I have learned to be patient with stranger or strange numbers but I know my limits. Immediately they start asking for personal details or cannot give a concise and genuine reason for contacting me, that's the end of the communication.

Nice way to play along and get to bust the bubble of the intended scammer. I do such sometimes too when I have the time in my hands but if I don't have time I just tell an unknown chatter off.

I'm taking aback when a new and unknown chat greets my phone, it immediately gets my 6th sense activated to watch out for scam related discussions and like you rightly said, it usually ends up the expected way; leading to scam but I don't fall for such.


This is surely a way that the unknown persons are avoided. When you reduce the rate of sign ups and joining online groups then we have already done half of the stress not to get involved with such people because in actual fact we are the architect of it, very limited number of people can get our contacts if we remain on our lane but by joining unsolicited services, telegram groups that are not required then we are opening arrays of unwanted chats.

It's not by deleting their contact that solves the whole issues with this kind of bug, one has to ignor them as you've said or permanently block them without replying to them, because the more we responds to them the more we become vulnerable to them and that's what they were always after, to seek in for the ome chance opportunity to read about us and get some information to help them channel their mode of attack.

We should also not serve them an avenue to find and locate us by any means of online engagements that we do, we must be very careful with online forms we fill, links we click, images we download and many more.

If you are going to get into someone's inbox and the first thing you do is not talk about yourself by introducing yourself but ask questions about the other person...total red flag and with me I ignore for a few minutes to hours then later on if you persist with more questions you are definitely meeting the ban hammer and report this privacy intrusion to telegram...No two ways about it!

And why do these fraudsters think using a beautiful  lady as the profile picture gets the conversation going ??? And why do they always think the person they are try to chat with is always male???

Simply just ignore it. If you are a Telegram user, then there are definitely many users who have sent you such messages. Try not to see their messages as much as possible because all the words of such people are unreadable and if you talk to them for a long time, you may unknowingly have them. You can also share personal information. 
I don't feel any need to talk to such people as you don't know him or have any idea about him. If such hot people have messaged you it would be better for you to block or ignore the account.

Yea, we have seen the method of exit scam so many times and you are correct about it. They may decide to be patient with you and even to the extent of becoming your online friend. They may decide to sacrifice one or two resources to enable them balance well for their exit scam.
A stranger is a stranger no matter how close they may try to be.


I feel so much exposed while on telegram and that's why I deactivated my account and I no longer get forum mentions notification.

I don't know if you have encounter scammers before, when you give a scammer attention it will totally change your mindset for investment plan, and if its the kind of investment you're anticipating to have or join it will be very easier for you to be victim or scam, because scammers has almost ten different strategies or numerous dimensions of applications to scam people through their communications, do you know that some can influence you with spiritual manipulation since you have already established communications and you are responding positively from the day it chatted, so we to be vigilant and take proper precautions concerning people slide on your DM for investment, when you notice that the user chatting you is unknown to know and the content of his discussion is not what you are expecting or thinking, you have every right to blacklist the user before you will be convinced to abide with the its agenda or policy.

Valid solution but not with me though, I love to mess with scammers, I give them hopes of thinking they have gotten me then all of a sudden I stop responding just to watch how frustrated they'll become. I don't get easily excited about an investment opportunity so whenever I get this kind of message I play along. If you're just a regular users on the internet that have join one or more crypto groups then be rest assured whenever you get this kinds of message, they're scammers trying to steal from you and got your details from those groups you joined.


Depends on the line of business you're into, not everybody knows how to start a conversation. I have done businesses with people that if I considered how they reached out to me initially, I would probably won't have done the business with them but in your case, this is obviously a scam attempt, the user mightn't come from the country that he/she is claiming. But if you're a business man likes myself, never judge a book by its cover although if you're not into any business that'll require you to be contacted by unknown numbers then consider evey message you get a scam attempt and approach with precautions.

The points raised about fraud and manipulation tactics are accurate. Remain cautious when strangers approach you with lucrative offers, as they often have ulterior motives. Use blocking features to protect yourself from online harassment. Stay vigilant and prioritize your safety.

LOL.  Assuming I even used a chat app like OP did, if I'd gotten a message like that not only would I have immediately blocked the user, but it wouldn't have crossed my mind to create a thread on bitcointalk about it.  Not sure if this is a merit-grab attempt or what, but if people have common sense (and it's questionable whether that's true) they'd realize an unsolicited message with the tone and content shown in the example here is either some idiot with too much time on their hands at best OR an obvious attempt at sucker-baiting for a scam at worst.

I know nobody would admit this on a public discussion forum, but have any of you actually fallen prey to messages like this one?  And by that I mean getting scammed because of receiving one.  My guess?  Probably not.

When I don't a user or have anything in common to do with them, which means how they got me on board is through a phishy means and that enough is a good point to use or hold against them by just ignoring them, there are situations that could warrant us not to chat, read or respond to some inbox we received because they are full of tricky ways to get us under their attack, in such situations, we should flee away from them.

on telegram, i'm quite active there and join a lot of crypto communities and the like but when a new person i don't know sends a chat to me, i will ignore the person because i know that I don't have business with them.   

Apart from that, i also never ask for help from somebody on Telegram when I have trouble on an exchange or gambling site because usually there will be lots of people who admit as an admin who starts chatting with me and offers help.

The abuse on telegram in particular is getting out of hands this days, just because they think they can invite someone into joining a group with their username without first receiving permission from them, now the function has to be enabled before anyone can add you to any group on telegram, also so.e groups have made the restriction on the participants from posting than the admin alone, this is also to reduce all manner of abuse that might comes in through such access.


If one is not looking for free things out of thin air, he would not give out the little chance they seek to get ones attention through their PMs. greediness is what lead some people to get scammed, you want to harvest from where you never planted at, how possible?

I have encountered scammers in several occasions but that doesn't mean I won't get to know if the person has a genuine reason for sliding into my DM. No doubt that scammers have different ways of getting into the head on their victims but it only takes a stronger person to get to another, I can't and I don't believe that spiritual means can make me fall, being vigilant and careful doesn't mean you have to chase some chats that are unknown to you. Sometimes it your spirit says you should stop the conversation is best you do so, in this spiritual means of scamming people is just that we don't listen to our mind, is like we get carried away by those sweet words.

I saw this kind of message in my telegram few days ago. When I asked about her, she tried to find out about me. Where do I live or what  I do etc. by asking various questions. Then I understood she was trying to collect information from me.
There was a similarity in the profile where beautiful girl picture was shown. In my conversation though the picture was not same but the approach was much similar. I realized that she was trying to steal my information or for some other nefarious purpose. I immediately blocked the user.

The spiritual way, could it be like hypnosis or Voodoo-like manta (LOL) or some words that will trap the victim because of some sweet promises given.
Do not get carried away by the sweet words spoken by scammers, unknown people, and even someone who is not related to anything in your life.

I even often receive messages from unknown people when entering and commenting in a telegram group that many users have joined.
This is already an indication that they are scammers who are only eyeing your assets. It's easy enough to spot.

It is best not to respond to anything, just delete and block such users. If you respond to the chat and continue the conversation they will send phishing links or some applications that are already infected with malware, which will be dangerous.

The methods of scammers are evolving and new ones are emerging. Email messages, Twitter, and other social media are also full of spam from scammers.
Even Whatsapp messages are also targeted by scammers. It is necessary to be vigilant to anticipate things that are not wanted.

Bro is funny right? But is the real truth, voodoo or whatever you call it, it stands as one of the best way (If I should say) to get victims fall in less than 10mins, shit happens. Sweet words are included but that's not what they're after,  your trust is what they're after. The main thing is that if you don't feel like start or continuing the conversation is best to stop or block the user like you said, but keep your important details to yourself.


Those mentioned apps are really the best place to be careful of, in as much as we find a place to just do a legit business we shouldn't let our guards down.

 I can't help being on my guard when I see such and the first action I take is to either query you thoroughly to get more info, and if I see that is not happening, I simply ignore or block. These days they are getting smarter by the minute and no longer make use of phishing links.
 One used the pattern of working in my bank and needed some details from me, hoping to get the numbers behind my card, claiming my card had a fault that needed fixing. It was just my fault for entertaining the chat for too long though.

Right from seing the content of the message or chats they are sending to you, you would have sensed if they are the type that has something good to discuss or was an attempt to spam you up or scam, especially when they are having no direction and being specific.


Best and perfect decision to take, some people deserve not giving an attention to because the more you gobe a listening ears the more they psych you further if care is not taken.


They have many ways and means they can come through, that is why we should be privacy and security consciouss in everything that we do.

Nice one, even if she had the intention to scam you, you kept her busy in identifying the country and made her speak of her country first  :D

Well, these unknown chats from telegram are common, as have joined many groups, people just get our contact from any group and try to message us for any help but in the end, the intention is always to scam. Asking for the country is necessary if the scam is intended for some particular region people or maybe they don't have any other way to start the conversation other than asking for the country  ???

It is always a question if we can be tracked by simply clicking a link, or malware from a picture from a chat, like Telegram. For some chat, it is hard to know what attempt each scammer is trying.

Can a coder explain maybe?
How safe is it to download a picture, video, click link, when a stranger writes it to us in a normal chat?
In, for example, Telegram?