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May 07, 2023, 12:46:56 PM
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We know quite well that scammers are everywhere, and it's obvious that the gravity of scammers is like bacteria living in every living environment, we can know when unknown user chat us from our DM, if you don't have any ongoing or existing plans of investment and unknown user on your DM is emphasising on investment and gives he/her investment tablets plans, which you know quite well that you have not negotiate or had any investment discussion with anyone, I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.

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May 07, 2023, 03:44:43 PM
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I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.
Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.

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May 07, 2023, 05:35:09 PM
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Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.
Greed is the true nature of human beings, so sometimes it is hard to avoid for some non-experienced users who are just starting their journey in the crypto space. In fact I think that scammers these days are targeting pigs, I mean big investors being their main target for launching attacks instead of retail traders.

Ignoring even the slightest attempt at scam and blocking it is a smart move instead of spending some time listening and following its evil intentions.

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May 07, 2023, 09:33:13 PM
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I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.
Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.
The cause of all these, is that everyone is inquisitive to make money, its only few people that will not be victims of this kind of investment that will triple your capital, but they doesn't think of the disadvantages aspect of it because of greediness, that's to say without bitcointalk community that helps to dispense information of scammers many people would have been scammed by now because of greediness, I want us to know that many people are looking for short-cut or the shortest of making money that's the while many falls for the trap of scammers, as I said before that only remedy to run out of scammers is when they send you their investment proposal you ignore it, and also block the means of been connected to you, because my said that you want or need, is what your enemies will get you with. So therefore we need to take precautions and peruse or scrutinised to any investment platform by research before investing to avoid scam.

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May 08, 2023, 02:01:17 AM
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Sometimes whenever a chat comes up I just feel like getting to know the user immediately because it might be someone who meant well or probably someone who wants to get something from you, could be a vital information or could be a scammer as the case maybe.
To me I'd let the chat flow and I might even play to the tune of the unknown user, but giving out information from my end won't be possible until the intention of the user has been stated and one needs to be careful. I feel anxious sometimes when an unknown message pops up from someone I don't know even here in this forum.

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May 08, 2023, 06:17:10 AM
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I don't remember how many random messages I have received and deleted, I can only deduce the way they found me that the potential victims who fall under the radar of these types of scammers are those who usually join business and investment groups. Anyone who has never done business via telegram may naturally create their own protection making it unreachable.

I think those of us who are dedicated in the crypto space will not be able to avoid their attempts to trap us.

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May 11, 2023, 01:30:55 PM
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I am aware of these issues. There are some unknown Telegram members who send me PM messages from time to time and claim themselves as CEOs or managers of various companies. And at first he tries to know about my personal things like what is my name?, what do I do?, what country do I live in and all that. And after knowing these things he offers me various jobs and at first he doesn't mention any money but later after talking for some time he says to transfer some amount to his account and when asked what I will pay for in his account. Then his reply came saying that in exchange of that money he will give me an account through which I can work in his company. I have never fallen for these spammers. I always thought they were a complete scam.

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May 12, 2023, 04:15:11 PM
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The high rate of crime and scams in the world has made everyone to be security conscious. I remember receiving a chat from my lecturer and she didn't introduce herself properly. She started asking for my details so that they can be used for some official purpose in school. I responded very rudely and cut the phone. She had to call back because she knew I can't be that rude to her. This time she introduced herself ad I apologized to her. Now I have learned to be patient with stranger or strange numbers but I know my limits. Immediately they start asking for personal details or cannot give a concise and genuine reason for contacting me, that's the end of the communication.

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May 13, 2023, 12:36:36 PM
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I am fully secure in my view. I remember a person that chatted with me after I joined a telegram group, telling me that he is from Brazil and introduced me to meta trade or something. I laughed and start to take his time too. Where it landed is a lie from me to have a physical visit with me in my country. It ended as nothing, no scam success because I knew he was a scammer even before the start of our conversation. Nothing like online friends to me, they are all scammers and they have not disappointed me before not to be a good person.

Nice way to play along and get to bust the bubble of the intended scammer. I do such sometimes too when I have the time in my hands but if I don't have time I just tell an unknown chatter off.

I'm taking aback when a new and unknown chat greets my phone, it immediately gets my 6th sense activated to watch out for scam related discussions and like you rightly said, it usually ends up the expected way; leading to scam but I don't fall for such.


Recently I got busier and I just ignor strangers. I did not also join groups again and nothing like new stranger 's messaging.


This is surely a way that the unknown persons are avoided. When you reduce the rate of sign ups and joining online groups then we have already done half of the stress not to get involved with such people because in actual fact we are the architect of it, very limited number of people can get our contacts if we remain on our lane but by joining unsolicited services, telegram groups that are not required then we are opening arrays of unwanted chats.

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May 13, 2023, 12:59:54 PM
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I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.
Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.

It's not by deleting their contact that solves the whole issues with this kind of bug, one has to ignor them as you've said or permanently block them without replying to them, because the more we responds to them the more we become vulnerable to them and that's what they were always after, to seek in for the ome chance opportunity to read about us and get some information to help them channel their mode of attack.

We should also not serve them an avenue to find and locate us by any means of online engagements that we do, we must be very careful with online forms we fill, links we click, images we download and many more.

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May 13, 2023, 08:29:01 PM
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If you are going to get into someone's inbox and the first thing you do is not talk about yourself by introducing yourself but ask questions about the other person...total red flag and with me I ignore for a few minutes to hours then later on if you persist with more questions you are definitely meeting the ban hammer and report this privacy intrusion to telegram...No two ways about it!

And why do these fraudsters think using a beautiful  lady as the profile picture gets the conversation going Huh And why do they always think the person they are try to chat with is always male???

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May 14, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
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Simply just ignore it. If you are a Telegram user, then there are definitely many users who have sent you such messages. Try not to see their messages as much as possible because all the words of such people are unreadable and if you talk to them for a long time, you may unknowingly have them. You can also share personal information. 
I don't feel any need to talk to such people as you don't know him or have any idea about him. If such hot people have messaged you it would be better for you to block or ignore the account.
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May 15, 2023, 11:54:00 AM
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However, there are genuine people online, but you must have to be with them for so many time in order to develop that trust and whatever you do online should be a teamwork and not expressely financial deals that will rely on one person to be delivered

Even here, I would be too pessimistic. You can call me a sociopath, but the people on the internet are not the people we meet offline. It all depends on the size of the victim. Scammers can seem like decent people for a very long time, and you can even do some business with them, but one day, something unforeseen will happen when a decent person turns into a very professional scammer.
Therefore, all other people's letters and other people's proposals that come from strangers must either be filtered with a magnifying glass or completely ignored.

Yea, we have seen the method of exit scam so many times and you are correct about it. They may decide to be patient with you and even to the extent of becoming your online friend. They may decide to sacrifice one or two resources to enable them balance well for their exit scam.
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I would even go so far as to say that chatting via telegram and accidentally clicking on links can lead to the full disclosure of your identity, and further problems can be expected as a result.

I feel so much exposed while on telegram and that's why I deactivated my account and I no longer get forum mentions notification.

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May 15, 2023, 07:41:48 PM
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Sometimes whenever a chat comes up I just feel like getting to know the user immediately because it might be someone who meant well or probably someone who wants to get something from you, could be a vital information or could be a scammer as the case maybe.
To me I'd let the chat flow and I might even play to the tune of the unknown user, but giving out information from my end won't be possible until the intention of the user has been stated and one needs to be careful. I feel anxious sometimes when an unknown message pops up from someone I don't know even here in this forum.
I don't know if you have encounter scammers before, when you give a scammer attention it will totally change your mindset for investment plan, and if its the kind of investment you're anticipating to have or join it will be very easier for you to be victim or scam, because scammers has almost ten different strategies or numerous dimensions of applications to scam people through their communications, do you know that some can influence you with spiritual manipulation since you have already established communications and you are responding positively from the day it chatted, so we to be vigilant and take proper precautions concerning people slide on your DM for investment, when you notice that the user chatting you is unknown to know and the content of his discussion is not what you are expecting or thinking, you have every right to blacklist the user before you will be convinced to abide with the its agenda or policy.

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May 15, 2023, 11:56:25 PM
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If you don't have any ongoing or existing plans of investment and unknown user on your DM is emphasising on investment and gives he/her investment tablets plans, which you know quite well that you have not negotiate or had any investment discussion with anyone, I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped

Valid solution but not with me though, I love to mess with scammers, I give them hopes of thinking they have gotten me then all of a sudden I stop responding just to watch how frustrated they'll become. I don't get easily excited about an investment opportunity so whenever I get this kind of message I play along. If you're just a regular users on the internet that have join one or more crypto groups then be rest assured whenever you get this kinds of message, they're scammers trying to steal from you and got your details from those groups you joined.

How secure do you feels when unknown user chats you and immediately begins to demand of your country where your chatting from?
What do you think could be their reason for chatting you up and instantly demanding your country of residence, does this makes any sense and how do you cope with such question or do you feels that such user has an evils motives towards you to either scam you or harm.
What are likelihood of this user not wanting to scam me because of his or her questions.

Depends on the line of business you're into, not everybody knows how to start a conversation. I have done businesses with people that if I considered how they reached out to me initially, I would probably won't have done the business with them but in your case, this is obviously a scam attempt, the user mightn't come from the country that he/she is claiming. But if you're a business man likes myself, never judge a book by its cover although if you're not into any business that'll require you to be contacted by unknown numbers then consider evey message you get a scam attempt and approach with precautions.

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May 16, 2023, 12:03:49 AM
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It is almost always a question of the intention of fraud. The conversation usually starts with a short introduction, an inquiry about personal life and, if possible, giving a certain dose of empathy. It's actually a psychological game and it's trying to gain some kind of trust.
Everything is actually preparation for what follows, proposing a very profitable investment, business or whatever. Because you will more easily accept and believe in advice from someone you already know in some way. if you are a little more inert, it will be harder for you to tell him to screw up, and he will use that to pressure you to give in and believe his proposals.

The points raised about fraud and manipulation tactics are accurate. Remain cautious when strangers approach you with lucrative offers, as they often have ulterior motives. Use blocking features to protect yourself from online harassment. Stay vigilant and prioritize your safety.

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May 16, 2023, 05:13:50 AM
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Caps lock, sir sir, using fake profile, and no point discussion, do you really think it's a good reason to believe the user is legit?
LOL.  Assuming I even used a chat app like OP did, if I'd gotten a message like that not only would I have immediately blocked the user, but it wouldn't have crossed my mind to create a thread on bitcointalk about it.  Not sure if this is a merit-grab attempt or what, but if people have common sense (and it's questionable whether that's true) they'd realize an unsolicited message with the tone and content shown in the example here is either some idiot with too much time on their hands at best OR an obvious attempt at sucker-baiting for a scam at worst.

I know nobody would admit this on a public discussion forum, but have any of you actually fallen prey to messages like this one?  And by that I mean getting scammed because of receiving one.  My guess?  Probably not.

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May 16, 2023, 02:31:54 PM
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Simply just ignore it. If you are a Telegram user, then there are definitely many users who have sent you such messages. Try not to see their messages as much as possible because all the words of such people are unreadable and if you talk to them for a long time, you may unknowingly have them.

When I don't a user or have anything in common to do with them, which means how they got me on board is through a phishy means and that enough is a good point to use or hold against them by just ignoring them, there are situations that could warrant us not to chat, read or respond to some inbox we received because they are full of tricky ways to get us under their attack, in such situations, we should flee away from them.

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May 16, 2023, 03:01:05 PM
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on telegram, i'm quite active there and join a lot of crypto communities and the like but when a new person i don't know sends a chat to me, i will ignore the person because i know that I don't have business with them.   

Apart from that, i also never ask for help from somebody on Telegram when I have trouble on an exchange or gambling site because usually there will be lots of people who admit as an admin who starts chatting with me and offers help.

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on telegram, i'm quite active there and join a lot of crypto communities and the like but when a new person i don't know sends a chat to me, i will ignore the person because i know that I don't have business with them.

The abuse on telegram in particular is getting out of hands this days, just because they think they can invite someone into joining a group with their username without first receiving permission from them, now the function has to be enabled before anyone can add you to any group on telegram, also so.e groups have made the restriction on the participants from posting than the admin alone, this is also to reduce all manner of abuse that might comes in through such access.

Apart from that, i also never ask for help from somebody on Telegram when I have trouble on an exchange or gambling site because usually there will be lots of people who admit as an admin who starts chatting with me and offers help.

If one is not looking for free things out of thin air, he would not give out the little chance they seek to get ones attention through their PMs. greediness is what lead some people to get scammed, you want to harvest from where you never planted at, how possible?

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