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Title: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: initim on April 22, 2023, 06:02:40 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: light_warrior on April 22, 2023, 06:17:07 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 22, 2023, 06:50:15 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is true and its something that they should really be minding on on which they should be aware about the risks involved.It might sound seem to be a good idea because of its popularity and its been known about increasing prices but it doesnt really remove the fact that risks is always there but its better not to make yourself that not minding about those risks but if you do able to bare up such risks and opt to make
investment or savings on your pension fund then it would be your own choice.As a friend or known someone then i wont really be making no guarantees or making out suggestions in regarding their
pension funds or on what they should gonna do.They are the ones who do make out such decision and it isnt bad to give out that kind of warning though to someone who do have those kind of considerations.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: decodx on April 22, 2023, 07:02:16 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.<...>

If he has to ask, I'd say no. Not because I don't think bitcoin is a safe investment, but because I don't think he's ready to take that kind of risk.

While I am relatively new to this field, I've met many people who have asked a similar question. From my experience, I've learned that it is best to exercise caution while giving investment advice. I'm sure you've heard the saying: "Do your research". It holds true in this context as well.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: palle11 on April 22, 2023, 07:16:58 PM
Generally investment is a risky venture but it also depends on the kind of investment. The general view is that bitcoin investment is a good area because it has long time value. I think what is discouraged is when you decide to borrow money to invest. Therefore  if a pensioner has his or her pension fund and instead of keeping it in the bank for a long time where it will not general interest, I think keeping it with bitcoin is preferred for me and these are some of my reason:

1. If the pensioner understand bitcoin technology by himself and not relying on third investment.

2. He or she has to be ready for a long time investment.

3. It must be money not meant for other financial need.

4. It must be your personal pension fund.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Wiwo on April 22, 2023, 07:34:08 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
For someone recieving pension payment means that the age of the individual is above retirement and that means he doesnt have much time to invest in bitcoin and waiting for tge next five to ten years for the investment to mature, so someone in that class will need to invest on some physical investment or business that will bring a daily return not long term.

So i will say bitcoin is too high risk for the individual and i will not advice the person to tske that long road, but for someone that have alot of time to wait it better to invest in bitcoin as an alternative while still in service and not as a retirement option.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Oceat on April 22, 2023, 07:44:49 PM
I would rather not risk it if it's not highly going to happen since you are probably risking too much in this just to invest in high volatile market. You should minimize the risk first before you could actually invest into something that you already understand. People nowadays are risking something that's important in their future it's like gambling in order to get what they want. We all know that gambling can't give you a high probability of winning thus, minimizing your chances to win. It's the same in trading because if you don't know what you are investing then you are just basically blindly guessing without knowing how the market works. More like a part of people who always invest during the FOMO instead of buying when it was on the dip.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: usekevin on April 22, 2023, 08:23:44 PM
If you ready to hold the funds for a year or couple of years,you can hold your funds in bitcoin.Because most expected halves will be come on 2024,so we can expect the new ATH.So many traders opinion is bitcoin price will increase to 10x to the current value.It’s an expectation we can’t assure it cent percentage.You can have a try with your pension to get some profit from the bitcoin.Because we can’t assure for the 10x,but surely it will be the good profit.If you want,you can split the investment into different parts.Then every part will give you good profit at the certain period.It help to get dollars at certain points.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: cute nmp on April 22, 2023, 08:49:03 PM
Bitcoin is a very risky investment don't think it is a good plan for one to invest all his pension funds in it. The price is never stable it can easily increase or decrease in value.Better to invest only a little amount if he is willing to invest and take the risk.Also it's much better for long term hold to make good profits.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on April 22, 2023, 09:04:52 PM
Is the pension fund money that the pensioner can afford to lose? How much percentage of the funds can the person really afford to lose. How much knowledge does the individual have about bitcoin investment.

Because where their knowledge is minimal, they are the ones who are very quick to sue whoever it was that introduced them into cryptocurrency.

It is too risky to invest and the person should consider a more stable market like the real estate market than bitcoin. Next to real estate investing is stocks and bonds they are also relative stable.

Lastly, unless you are financial adviser do not make any decision for your friend. Get him or them a financial adviser.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: teosanru on April 22, 2023, 09:11:20 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Ideally pension funds are the safest funds. There is absolutely minimal risk in these funds especially when they are regulated by government as well. So obviously they are a good investment option for anyone who is looking for a good return. Also regulated invested funds like pension funds also make sure the overall split of the money of the pension fund is correctly allocated as per regulated norms. Obviously this doesn't guarantee zero risk but yes does Gujarat minimal risk.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Stable090 on April 22, 2023, 09:19:39 PM
How will you work for years, then invest all your retirement money in bitcoin, we all know bitcoin investment is really a good one but we shouldn’t take that kind of risk, we should learn to invest any amount you lose that won’t affect you. How will the person feel after losing all his retirement money? The best thing I will advise the person to do is that just take part of the retirement money and invest in bitcoin, any amount that won’t hurt him incase if anything happens to the money. And the person shouldn’t be expecting returns in the next few days or weeks, he should be prepared to hold.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 22, 2023, 09:28:52 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
^ Just ask him if he is ready to take a risk investing in BTC, though BTC is a good investment there is no guarantee when you will have a profit.
Just also ask him if this fund that he supposedly use is the amount that he is willing to wait to make a profit. Because probably there is a chance that if he badly needed money he will sell his BTC at a lower price. If I were in your place, just explain to him the bad side and good sides of in investing BTC and let him realize and decide on his own.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Zaguru12 on April 22, 2023, 09:32:29 PM
Ideally pension funds are the safest funds. There is absolutely minimal risk in these funds especially when they are regulated by government as well. So obviously they are a good investment option for anyone who is looking for a good return.

OP is actually looking at the possibility of investing people’s pension funds into cryptocurrency. Even though this amount is contributed my people who aren’t retired just yet which signifies it can be hold on to for some years but it is still a very bad idea because it defeats the number one rule of bitcoin investment which is to never an amount that can’t be risked. Should OP decides to invest it in it as, then that attributes it to a borrowed funds for investment which could put him in bind and could not Make one hodl for long and that’s is the only to gain profits from bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Beparanf on April 22, 2023, 09:35:19 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.

Even though Bitcoin is very good investment, We are talking about pension funds here that literally for old person. They are on the last chapter of human life which means they shouldn’t put at risk the money that they earn their whole life for a chance to increase it more. Investing it on volatile asset like Bitcoin might end up decrease their money once they need to use it since you never know when they need it and they doesn’t have enough time to wait for hodling.

We should consider the person itself for the risk exposure because some of us can’t handle the risk due to their current situation like pension owner.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Wiwo on April 22, 2023, 09:44:37 PM
Bitcoin is a very risky investment don't think it is a good plan for one to invest all his pension funds in it. The price is never stable it can easily increase or decrease in value.Better to invest only a little amount if he is willing to invest and take the risk.Also the long-term hold should make good profits.
I won't even consider Bitcoin as a good investment for any portion of the pension founds even if not everything,  the risk of too much for a retiree hasn't to. Wait for 5-10 years is truly a long period pf time for senior citizens.

But for a young person who has a lot of time to study and build adequate knowledge and a long time to wait for Bitcoin is the best possible investment to secure the future.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: blockman on April 22, 2023, 09:50:21 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
With the risk of bitcoin, I'd be happy to put a portion of it but it's for my own and my own money. If it's others, I'll not rethink if I'll tell the same say but will say to study it first. The risk that bitcoin has got to offer might not be able to take by that person who's ready to take his/her pension. It's too risky for them, the old ones to have that vibe of roller coaster ride on this market. Give them time to study and learn bitcoin's volatility and from there, they'll see if they can take the ride and invest not all of their retirement funds but maybe 5%-10% of it.
That's what I think because it's better for someone who's taking a pension to just be content with it unless he'd be willing to go that far but with extra risk.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Woodie on April 22, 2023, 09:56:00 PM
It's a BIG No for me!!

Retirement funds are really not mearnt for high risk undertakings, if anything use that money to go on a vacation just to appreciate yourself for putting in so much time and work to get paid over the years...truth be told if you don't spoil yourself who will??

If you haven't ventured into other profit making businesses find something stable and and more likely to pay you like bonds, otherwise use that money to take care of yourself as you will no longer be in the work force, but if money isn't an issue by all means you could through a couple of dollars into your crypto investment bank!


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: harizen on April 22, 2023, 09:57:31 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Regarding bitcoin "being safe" will be subjective to different people depending on how well they understand bitcoin as a whole.

As per reading your story, it seems to me that your friend isn't that involved much in crypto and maybe only has a little knowledge about Bitcoin as a whole including the associated risks and how volatile it is. Feed his mind first about bitcoin in general.

Instead of directly answering that question by your friend, why not give a piece of advice to start involved in crypto from now on and build experience? If your friend is really serious about knowing Bitcoin, soon as he progresses, he will come up with the point that he will know the best answer to his own question.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Quickex Exchange on April 22, 2023, 10:13:40 PM
The safety of investing pension funds in Bitcoin is a matter of personal opinion and risk tolerance. Some people view Bitcoin as a high-risk, high-reward investment, while others believe it to be too volatile and unreliable to be a suitable investment for retirement funds.

On one hand, Bitcoin has seen significant growth in value in recent years, and some proponents argue that it could offer a hedge against inflation. On the other hand, the cryptocurrency market is highly speculative, and the value of Bitcoin can be extremely volatile. It's not uncommon for the value of Bitcoin to drop by a large percentage in a short period of time.

It's also important to consider the potential legal and regulatory risks associated with investing in cryptocurrencies. The regulatory environment for cryptocurrencies is still evolving, and there is a risk that governments could take action to restrict or ban the use of cryptocurrencies, which could negatively impact their value.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 22, 2023, 10:34:10 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.

OP, like you said, someone asked if they could invest their pension in Bitcoin. I don't have a certain answer to give here because there are some things you have not mentioned. First, this person that is asking you for this advice: is he or she educated about Bitcoin or just has partial knowledge? Secondly, how old is this person?

In my country, the government retires workers at the age of 65 or if they have worked for 40 years. Just as you have said that the person said it's their pension savings, that means he has been saving his pension money since his retirement and is definitely still receiving his pension since he's still alive.

If this person is still very healthy and active, if he or she is very knowledgeable about Bitcoin, and if they are ready to take the risk after you might have explained it to them, then it's good. explained the risk of investing in Bitcoin to them, tell them how Bitcoin works, and allowed them to decide if they wanted to invest or not. This is not a decision you will take for them, but after you have explained everything to them, let them say, Yes, I understand the risk and I want to go ahead with it.

But if the money is so huge that they want to invest it all, that's where you know how to tell them no! and tell them that instead of investing all of it at once, let it be divided and invested gradually on a DCA strategy. Also, if the person is just receiving his monthly pension and wants to invest, let them only invest 20 or 30% of the monthly pension or the % should be as it suits them.

explained the risk, tell them what it entails to invest in Bitcoin, and allowed them to make the decision, saying, "Yes, I have considered all the risk factors, but I want to go on with the investment."

Note: This is not an investment advice.

For someone recieving pension payment means that the age of the individual is above retirement and that means he doesnt have much time to invest in bitcoin and waiting for tge next five to ten years for the investment to mature, so someone in that class will need to invest on some physical investment or business that will bring a daily return not long term.

@wiwo,  A person receiving a pension is already an old person who is retired from a government job and is entitled to a pension until they die. Even if the person is old but it still depends on their age and how healthy the person is. my grandpa  is a pensioner, he is 80 years old now and yet his is still strong very much healthy, he retired at the age of 60 and if he had been investing 20 or 30% of his pension, he would have accumulated up to 1+ Bitcoin because is about 20 years now since he retired. Bitcoin even got developed while he was still working, lol. But I wish he had knowledge of it. But even if he had invested at the time he was 70 year old, he would have still waited till today.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Stalker22 on April 22, 2023, 11:15:41 PM
Retirement funds are meant to be the sweet reward for all your hard work, not a gamble on risky investments. Sure, Bitcoin might seem like a hot investment, but when it comes to your pension funds, it is better to play it safe. If you are really keen on investing in Bitcoin, just make sure it is with money you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: gunhell16 on April 23, 2023, 07:47:37 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

It's not bad if you believe Bitcoin is what it can give you in the future. If you have a pension fund maybe I can advise you even if you live at least 50% of your pension for yourself.

Then another 50% of your pension fund you will allocate to Bitcoin it is if you do not have another source of income resources other than your pension. But if you have any other business to do then maybe at this point I can say that even if it is just my opinion it is okay to put all your pension funds in Bitcoin and wait for the right time if You want it to sell although there is a risk anyhow.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 23, 2023, 09:10:01 AM
Putting money of retirement is not good idea because of its risky feature but from retirement fund a little portion can be used for investment.  We know that how successful bitcoin is but we also know that it is unstable so its important for us that try to know the fact that something is better than nothing.

 if a person puts overall retirement fund in bitcoin and unfortunately the market goes in dip then he will think that retirement fund was better than desire for making more money. I don't say that bitcoin is not good investment, yes it's really good but we cannot hide the fact of its uncertainty.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Ndabagi01 on April 23, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.

You have a good point based on the large profit return you would receive from long-term bitcoin investing. However, spending pension funds is extremely dangerous because this is money that will be needed for sustainability for the rest of one's life after retirement. He can invest some of the money but not all of it. Waiting and relying on big interest in the coming years when the market is volatile is fraught with risk. He should only invest what he can afford to lose, and a pension fund is not something that anyone should risk losing.

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However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Every company that handles people's money does this, and while some lose money, others make a lot of money. Companies like these have a separate fund to compensate for large losses in such investments. However, doing it as an individual is dangerous.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: tvplus006 on April 23, 2023, 06:24:00 PM
Pension capital cannot be invested in risky instruments, which certainly include cryptocurrency and in particular bitcoin. In this case, the preservation of capital is a more significant goal than the possibility of obtaining super profits in which there is a high probability of losing money.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Hamza2424 on April 23, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
pENSION  FUNDS should not be invested still if yu want to invest for the Kids then...
Pension funds are of two types one of them you get all at once and the other you get slowly in different partitions of specific amounts so you need to figure out your needs first then you can calculate the funds amount you want to invest. In my view for more returns, you should invest your funds even if it's risky but it's rewarding. For the first case, you can invest your fund's major portion in the market and enjoy good returns in less time but at the same time if it 2nd the case then you can invest funds gradually It will be a slow and risk-free process and higher the risk higher the reward theory works in the investment markets.

In both cases, you can go for the DCA and it will work for you with good efficiency as its pension funds if you have kids then for their future you should take the investment steps to secure their bright future.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Falconer on April 23, 2023, 07:43:04 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
The risk to be aware of is that returns from bitcoin investments are never guaranteed due to various factors. If your friend invests in bitcoin for the long term, he can also practice good security on the wallet he holds, so he's likely to be able to get return when bitcoin is more expensive. But it is not recommended to invest 100% of the budget in bitcoins without having extra reserves for your urgent needs.

If your friend wants to do it, then suggest him to invest 10% to 50% of his total retirement budget. I think the returns will be worth it when bitcoin hit new ATH in the years to come. But remember, secure the storage wallet and choose the recommended wallet to store it


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Wiwo on April 23, 2023, 08:16:29 PM


@wiwo,  A person receiving a pension is already an old person who is retired from a government job and is entitled to a pension until they die. Even if the person is old but it still depends on their age and how healthy the person is. my grandpa is a pensioner, he is 80 years old now and yet he is still strong and very much healthy, he retired at the age of 60 and if he had been investing 20 or 30% of his pension, he would have accumulated up to 1+ Bitcoin because is about 20 years now since he retired. Bitcoin even got developed while he was still working, lol. But I wish he knew of it. But even if he had invested at the time he was 70 years old, he would have still waited till today.
Yeah, I understand the point of accumulation and the role of thindividual'sls health to ascertain how Long their keep receiving that pensions payment event though the amount is far less than their annual salary when in service, and pensions are paid from the percentage deduction from individual monthly salary while in service so that in itself is also an investment just that it doesn't yield interest.

Haven't said that, let me move to the main point of this comment which is on the issues of age and how viable Bitcoin is for such investment, taking that your ground has accumulated 1+BTC and at the age of 80+, how long will he be willing to wait for the 1 bit to gain massive returned that could meet up to the old traditional economic demands and high inflation rate.

Can your ground pa wait for 10 years without any panic or health challenge that could force him to sell at a loss since he depends on the pension for his sustainability, I am not trying to dispute the fact that it can be taken as an inheritance means of investment that can be passed on to his benefactor instead of taking it as an immediate investment.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: disconnectme on April 23, 2023, 08:20:57 PM
I will say it is safe to invest Pension Funds into Bitcoin, I won't say it is safe to do so like 3 or 4 years ago, but with all that Bitcoin has weathered in the past years and still comes out stronger every time, I will say it worth the risk, just look at the number of banks that went under this year, some people would have considered them safe. With the level of investment in Bitcoin infrastructure and the number keeps increasing plus the potential for ETF approval in the future BTC will continue to be one of the best-performing assets in the world


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: BitDane on April 23, 2023, 08:52:22 PM
We all know Bitcoin will break its ATH but we are unsure when it will happen.  We have the hint but still, it can't be considered a fact since it does not happen yet.  I would say Bitcoin is a good investment for pension fund but it is always best to invest what the client is afford to lose.  We can set a percentage of the pension funds as allocation to invest in Bitcoin.  It is much better if the percentage allocation is the amount that the client can afford to lose.  This way, the client won't missed out on the profit on Bitcoin if it surge and at the same time won't be greatly affected if the Bitcoin market uptrend is derailed or delayed.

There is a saying that we shouldn't put our eggs in one basket and it should also be applied in every investment regardless where the fund is coming from.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on April 23, 2023, 09:37:04 PM
Unless the pensioner has other sources of income at the time of investing in Bitcoin, it is a risky idea to go all in with such funds.
It is also risky without an upgrade of ones knowledge of the Bitcoin space and market cap before entrusting such huge pension funds to a broker.
 To learn how to monitor and safe guard such an account both from scammers, hackers and even market volatility, is key.
It is just common sense to avoid being a liability incase the Bitcoin or the wallet gets lost. Thus the importance of other sources of income.
Remembering to always invest with money one can afford to loose is key too.
If you are doing the investing yourself, what strategy would you use? Is that the safest for you?
How would you keep passwords and key phrases safe and out of reach of friends, other families or visitors?

This is just to provide an insight of what to expect before considering investment of pension funds in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 23, 2023, 10:09:08 PM

Haven't said that, let me move to the main point of this comment which is on the issues of age and how viable Bitcoin is for such investment, taking that your ground has accumulated 1+BTC and at the age of 80+, how long will he be willing to wait for the 1 bit to gain massive returned that could meet up to the old traditional economic demands and high inflation rate.

Can your ground pa wait for 10 years without any panic or health challenge that could force him to sell at a loss since he depends on the pension for his sustainability, I am not trying to dispute the fact that it can be taken as an inheritance means of investment that can be passed on to his benefactor instead of taking it as an immediate investment.

Good. I like that you made mention of the inheritance part, because that is exactly what I wanted to say. Perhaps if they have such an investment, they have children or grandchildren that can inherit it.

Also, with the pension he is receiving, since the pension is paid every month, he can still pay for his bills with part of his monthly pension while still having his Bitcoin investment. His children can even assist with some bill payments. But the fact here is that all these old people don't usually have much in the way of needs or bills to pay because they have children that are sustainable for them too. What can I say? It's just good to invest if they want to; according to the OP, he should not just be the one making the investment decision for them.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: GreatArkansas on April 23, 2023, 11:33:14 PM
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However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
If that pension fund is the only one you are relying on example, you don't have any more extra money. Then I can say, it's not safe to use that for investment in Bitcoin (even non-Bitcoin). In investing, you should be aware and always put in your mind that investment is a risk, you can't guarantee profits once you invest because no one will know what will be the future of every market.
There are a lot of people crying or disappointed because they lost money that they can't afford to lose.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: adaseb on April 24, 2023, 04:01:37 AM
You can buy the etf instead. Which is safer and you don’t need to worry about custody. The larger issue is that there are fees and the BTC etf is driven by the futures and they roll the contracts from time to time. So the longer you hold those etf you might different from the NAV price. Hence it’s not wise to buy certain ETFs for a retirement account because the fees will add up. If you want to just long it for a short while like 6 months or a year then it shouldn’t be much of an issue.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: MFahad on April 24, 2023, 07:04:12 AM
Government provides pension when a person get retired or completed his work for 60 years and I think there is no need of saving because Government offers you money after 60 years without any job and this is enough to fulfill one's need. But if a person want to make Investment then from  monthly pension he can  save little amount in Bitcoin it will be beneficial for him. I think everyone should save some money for their children no matter in which form may be its in bitcoin form or some another business but its the better way, also use little amount so you will have no worries at all whenever business drops or reduces in price.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Distinctin on April 24, 2023, 08:08:57 AM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.<...>

If he has to ask, I'd say no. Not because I don't think bitcoin is a safe investment, but because I don't think he's ready to take that kind of risk.

While I am relatively new to this field, I've met many people who have asked a similar question. From my experience, I've learned that it is best to exercise caution while giving investment advice. I'm sure you've heard the saying: "Do your research". It holds true in this context as well.

I would actually do the same. Most especially for retirees, this is not the time to take high risk investments, instead enjoy your pension funds and do whatever you want with your money so that you can say to yourself that you’re actually living a good and meaningful life before you rest in peace. Though bitcoin can be seen as a profitable investment, but it’s not suited to those who have fainted hearts.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: ningrum on April 24, 2023, 10:32:22 AM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.<...>

If he has to ask, I'd say no. Not because I don't think bitcoin is a safe investment, but because I don't think he's ready to take that kind of risk.

While I am relatively new to this field, I've met many people who have asked a similar question. From my experience, I've learned that it is best to exercise caution while giving investment advice. I'm sure you've heard the saying: "Do your research". It holds true in this context as well.

I would actually do the same. Most especially for retirees, this is not the time to take high risk investments, instead enjoy your pension funds and do whatever you want with your money so that you can say to yourself that you’re actually living a good and meaningful life before you rest in peace. Though bitcoin can be seen as a profitable investment, but it’s not suited to those who have fainted hearts.
Investing in Bitcoin is certainly for the long term which requires patience,
especially for retirees, I think if you really want to invest, of course you need to consider many things and choose an investment with a small risk.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on April 24, 2023, 12:53:17 PM
Even while you will profit in Bitcoin when the time comes, I believe it is not prudent to invest your pension funds. There is no definite period when you will be lucrative with your Bitcoin investment. Don't invest in Bitcoin if you need money. Simply investing a small amount in Bitcoin ensures that it will not be used for your daily necessities. I don't see Bitcoin as a risk because you won't lose money if you don't sell it, just store it in a secure wallet. The only problem I see in Bitcoin is you cannot predict when it will arrive at your selling price and that's really what "investment" mean.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Bananington on April 24, 2023, 01:46:19 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.
Pension funds can be your last hope as a source of income when you retire from working in a government sector or some private businesses. Any decision whether it regards investment or not has to be carefully thought out and not made in a hurry. Your friend can choose to invest some percentage of his pension funds since the money paid periodically,  but he should not make the mistake of investing all his pension funds in bitcoin. That risk may too much for him to even carry considering his state of health after retirement, a time when he is old already.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: michellee on April 24, 2023, 02:37:52 PM
We do not recommend using retirement savings to invest in bitcoin, let alone using all the money from retirement savings. Maybe he needs to compile or calculate what percentage of retirement savings will be used to invest in bitcoin so that he still has money if he has a sudden need.

In addition, you have to ask him whether he is ready or not to see the wild bitcoin movement and how he controls his emotions when he sees the ups and downs of the bitcoin price. If he can control his emotions, he can invest in bitcoin while doing other things so that his mind is not confused when he sees the changing price of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a risky investment and not everyone can handle bitcoin well.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: hyudien on April 24, 2023, 02:54:58 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is true, and a little extra that apart from being risky, of course, you also need to consider that pension funds mean that the funds to be used when facing old age who plan to invest in Bitcoin will be better off choosing assets that are stable in nature such as gold, real estate and some assets that do not have high volatility. So try to find an alternative because Bitcoin doesn't always have a high price, I don't forbid it, but when it comes to retirement funds, it means that the person needs an investment that has a stable value so that he can take profits at any time when it's urgent.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: rat03gopoh on April 24, 2023, 03:42:20 PM
Assume you keep bitcoins under custody:
Safe from potential unilateral claims? yes
Safe from monthly savings fees? yes
Safe from tracking unwanted parties? yes, it depends

Safe from volatility effects? No
Safe from the risk of loss of access and theft? it depends.

No matter the source of funds, all investment instruments have their own unique risks. Even if you just keep it in fiat. So consider it with the preference of your ability to deal with that risk


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Baoo on April 24, 2023, 07:46:34 PM
In general, investing in cryptocurrencies is perilous and unsafe. However, Bitcoin investment is less risky especially if your strategy is a long term one. And to be honest, it is one of the best ways to earn large income but that can take a lot of time to be achieved, it requires patience. In fact, I encourage your friend to use DCA ( Dollar cost averaging) method, it could be effective to manage the high risk  and gain money in a safe way. Plus, the recent price is a good opportunity to purchase Bitcoin but be careful, it is preferable to not invest more than you can afford to lose otherwise, you will fail and regret.  As far I am concerned the more you invest when the price is low , the larger return in long term.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Mahanton on April 24, 2023, 08:55:49 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is true, and a little extra that apart from being risky, of course, you also need to consider that pension funds mean that the funds to be used when facing old age who plan to invest in Bitcoin will be better off choosing assets that are stable in nature such as gold, real estate and some assets that do not have high volatility. So try to find an alternative because Bitcoin doesn't always have a high price, I don't forbid it, but when it comes to retirement funds, it means that the person needs an investment that has a stable value so that he can take profits at any time when it's urgent.
Some peoples mindset is that on the time that they gets old, they are really that thinking that their children are the ones who would really be be taking care of them on the time that they gets old without even trying to
think about the probabilities which they might be able to experience the different thing because we know  that out children would really be raising up their own family which means that us parents or their guardians would really be most likely to be neglected or would really be out of focus but well it would really be depending on each children you do have because there are ones who do really give out importance.

But in overall then it would really be just right that you should be wasting up your pension fund on which you should think advanced and secure out on things. Investing it on Bitcoin?
For some partial or part then it would really be that considerable but having that all in? It cant really be just that too safe or secure.So its better to have that reconsideration
if you've been thinking up that way.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Finestream on April 24, 2023, 09:45:16 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Definitely not safe. It would be too risky for a retiree to invest his pension funds knowing you can’t predict when will be bitcoin investment becomes profitable. Yes, it’s certainly a long term investment but retirees can’t definitely wait for that long knowing they should enjoy their pension funds rather than investing to grow more. Besides, retirees are too old already not to be affected with bitcoin price volatility, they might end up losing their lives earlier if they found out their investments did not work out.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on April 24, 2023, 10:24:19 PM

I don't think there's any good crypto advisor who will advise anyone to invest all is pension funds in bitcoin because of the risk it involves. Nobody have guarantee that this is what will actually happen to Bitcoin but we are just aiming that it will be positive.so I will say it will be too risky to invest in Bitcoin with the many that you can't afford to lose.

And based on your comments, I can infer that your friend has no knowledge of Bitcoin; so, why couldn't he/she be patient and learn and do some research on Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general?I don't believe investing in bitcoin right now without first considering security issues because it is a good idea to first consider. From my personal experience, I can also state that Bitcoin is a wise investment, but I cannot advise anyone to invest money they cannot afford to lose.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: irhact on April 24, 2023, 10:38:06 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.

This can be a very risky move, so if I had no choice but to invest then I'll put only a small percentages of the pension fund into investing in Bitcoin. Something like 10% is a low risk and when the price of bitcoin increases, it'll be a good investment since the profit that'll be generated will be huge. Investing in Bitcoin is safer than most investment opportunities.

With Bitcoin investment, you can do that with your personal wallet and capital and you don't need to go through paper works and other formalities that you'll have to do if you were buying shares or stocks. Bitcoin investment is the quickest and likely to give you more return on your investment.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on April 24, 2023, 10:52:05 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Definitely not safe. It would be too risky for a retiree to invest his pension funds knowing you can’t predict when will be bitcoin investment becomes profitable. Yes, it’s certainly a long term investment but retirees can’t definitely wait for that long knowing they should enjoy their pension funds rather than investing to grow more. Besides, retirees are too old already not to be affected with bitcoin price volatility, they might end up losing their lives earlier if they found out their investments did not work out.

I like that idea, pension should be enjoyed instead of taking the long-term wait, I mean those retirees should use the retirement benefits to enjoy life while they still alive, come to think of it, if those people invest their retirement savings then the market falls hard, it can be a caused of their anxieties realizing that they lose a lot.

Though I'm not against if a retiree thinks that they can wait to grow their money, then so be it, as long as they can fully handle the risk.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: _BlackStar on April 24, 2023, 11:03:58 PM
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You can expect bitcoin to give you commensurate returns on your retirement budget if you are willing to stick with it for the long term. But of course you shouldn't put everything into bitcoins if you have nothing, you better have savings.

You know, I no longer plan to invest in gold because I tend to believe that bitcoin can give me good returns. I focus on investing in the long term instead of expecting returns in the short term. So you [your friend or whoever] can use the retirement budget to invest, but still manage your finances wisely.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 24, 2023, 11:16:26 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Definitely not safe. It would be too risky for a retiree to invest his pension funds knowing you can’t predict when will be bitcoin investment becomes profitable. Yes, it’s certainly a long term investment but retirees can’t definitely wait for that long knowing they should enjoy their pension funds rather than investing to grow more. Besides, retirees are too old already not to be affected with bitcoin price volatility, they might end up losing their lives earlier if they found out their investments did not work out.

I think it is much better to diversify your portfolio of investment of your pension fund. Since different investment have different risk, this yields to a more diverse way on getting profit whereas some of it are secured on low risk   investment that still gives you profit, while others are allocated on high risk so that you at least can expect high return if everything goes well. It is a matter of personal choice on these kind of investments so just be careful on choosing what investment you will take and make sure you did a lot of consideration since it is still a risk for your money that is intended for you in the future.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 24, 2023, 11:19:44 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is true, and a little extra that apart from being risky, of course, you also need to consider that pension funds mean that the funds to be used when facing old age who plan to invest in Bitcoin will be better off choosing assets that are stable in nature such as gold, real estate and some assets that do not have high volatility. So try to find an alternative because Bitcoin doesn't always have a high price, I don't forbid it, but when it comes to retirement funds, it means that the person needs an investment that has a stable value so that he can take profits at any time when it's urgent.

Diversify as much as we could and as long the money or funds we do have is something that could possibly generate income.We shouldnt really only on one income source
and dont rely with pension funds or something like that.Always be that good if you do consider out on on diversifying while you do still have the capability on
doing so because on the day come when we are old and doesnt have something to rely on then these investment would really paid off
for long term.

In general, investing in cryptocurrencies is perilous and unsafe. However, Bitcoin investment is less risky especially if your strategy is a long term one. And to be honest, it is one of the best ways to earn large income but that can take a lot of time to be achieved, it requires patience. In fact, I encourage your friend to use DCA ( Dollar cost averaging) method, it could be effective to manage the high risk  and gain money in a safe way. Plus, the recent price is a good opportunity to purchase Bitcoin but be careful, it is preferable to not invest more than you can afford to lose otherwise, you will fail and regret.  As far I am concerned the more you invest when the price is low , the larger return in long term.
Its never been safe and it would never be and this is what you should have put up into your mind because cryptocurrencies are way too unpredictable and there's no way on knowing on where it would be heading.
Somehow, if you are a person who do love to take up some risk then you might consider on making one but its never been that recommendable for you to make that all in kind of investment.
You could throw up with some small percentage if you do really like on investing to it. We are all saying on the same thing that its never been that ideal
on doing so and risks involved is way too high or simply doesnt have assurances.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 25, 2023, 03:25:16 AM
If the person knows that risk, is it okay for him if the Bitcoin price is stabilizing or dropping for a couple of years and he sees his investment as a loss? Also, there is the risk that anything could happen to his investment. You know pensions are used by those retirees to enjoy their old lives, so I wouldn't agree with investing it all in bitcoin. I mean, you can invest some of it but also use it to enjoy your life and not stress out a lot to earn more because you are old and you've been working your whole life.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: noorman0 on April 25, 2023, 04:53:06 AM
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You know pensions are used by those retirees to enjoy their old lives, so I wouldn't agree with investing it all in bitcoin.
The worry is that bitcoin's high volatility will affect the mentality of the elderly. This will lead them to some serious physical health problems.

By the way, the question arises after thinking hard, what is the purpose of retirement investing in old age? Because a good investment choice will at least take a long time.
Let's say they achieved that after a few years, so what's next?Fancy food, sports cars, stately homes? I'm not sure, they enjoy it all more in their old age.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Farma on April 25, 2023, 06:01:15 AM
in fact, this can be done if your friend has other savings for his old age. You are right, that investing in bitcoin using a pension fund is a very risky thing. if the person only has a pension fund as collateral at this time, then it will be very risky. despite the fact that bitcoin is profitable for many people, and its price tends to increase, no one can predict the future. In addition, he can use 20 to 30% of his retirement funds to invest as long as he is willing to lose that amount.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 25, 2023, 06:53:54 AM
If you believe it or not?

I am preparing my pension plans for investing in Bitcoin , though it will be years from now
but some of my money now are invested in bitcoin for my future(aside from my family's future)

when time my retirement comes?
surely all of those will be vested in Bitcoin and will completely for another years preparing for my future life with my Wife as my children will have their own and we will be living both together.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: cheezcarls on April 25, 2023, 07:29:27 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

If he chooses to do so, it's better not to go all-in. Only invest an amount that he can afford to lose if that's the only source of income he has.

This also reminds me of my sister who used to ask me if it's okay for her entire savings to go all-in on Bitcoin, but I educated her not to because of the high risks as well as the unpredictability of the market.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: hyudien on April 25, 2023, 11:17:25 AM
Diversify as much as we could and as long the money or funds we do have is something that could possibly generate income.We shouldnt really only on one income source
and dont rely with pension funds or something like that.Always be that good if you do consider out on on diversifying while you do still have the capability on
doing so because on the day come when we are old and doesnt have something to rely on then these investment would really paid off
for long term.
Asset diversification is of course a benchmark in order to avoid high-risk investments. In other words, don't enter in one box but the box needs to have 2 double locks to keep the assets that are owned can be inherited. Our job is to entrust it to the right people. Pension funds are not always ideal, in the middle of the road you need an emergency fund, namely cash as an option for health costs, and to meet a guaranteed standard of living.

when time my retirement comes?
surely all of those will be vested in Bitcoin and will completely for another years preparing for my future life with my Wife as my children will have their own and we will be living both together.
You are very realistic and make long-term plans, but before you do that, have you anticipated by providing education regarding Bitcoin price fluctuations, selling at the right time, taking profits according to the target, and what needs to be emphasized is where you or your family and wife really have the same understanding. how does investing in crypto assets work?



Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: cydrix on April 25, 2023, 03:52:38 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is accurate, and they should pay attention to it because there are risks involved. It might seem like a good idea given its popularity and the fact that prices are rising, but that doesn't really change the fact that risks still exist. It's best to keep those risks in mind, but if you are able to accept them and choose to invest in or save for your pension fund, that is when it will pay off. While it is not necessarily wrong to issue such a warning to someone who does have those kinds of thoughts, they are the ones who do make such decisions.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: el kaka22 on April 25, 2023, 06:10:06 PM
Others? No. Yours? Yes. I personally have all of my retirement fund in bitcoin and I think it is going to be very important to make that change. I know that if you take others money and invest that into bitcoin then you would be in a big trouble and you should not do that, but when we are talking about just bitcoin and when we are talking about just you? That changes things and you should be able to invest without a trouble.

Not a lot of people can make a big change like that and put all their retirement fund into crypto, because they would be afraid of it. However, I am not afraid of it and I trust that it will do much better for sure. I think it is going to make a big change soon and the price will be a lot better in the end so you should keep holding it.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Hamphser on April 25, 2023, 06:43:29 PM
Others? No. Yours? Yes. I personally have all of my retirement fund in bitcoin and I think it is going to be very important to make that change. I know that if you take others money and invest that into bitcoin then you would be in a big trouble and you should not do that, but when we are talking about just bitcoin and when we are talking about just you? That changes things and you should be able to invest without a trouble.

Not a lot of people can make a big change like that and put all their retirement fund into crypto, because they would be afraid of it. However, I am not afraid of it and I trust that it will do much better for sure. I think it is going to make a big change soon and the price will be a lot better in the end so you should keep holding it.
It all matters with risk taking because its  ours decision to make and among all it was our money to be used and not into others, which means that it would be that impossible that you arent aware about the risks

on the time that you do make out some decision on investing or making use of your pension funds into Bitcoin.Yes, it is indeed risky because we dont really know on what the future holds or what are the things
that would happen in next but somewhat we do really have the idea and able to see on what it does back into a decade back which we can say that it does really have the chance that the  risks you have
taken would really be that worth.
Somewhat if it isnt something that you could be able to afford on doing so, then its better to skip out but if you could be able to bare up the risks then it would be always be falling
into your own choice whether you do proceed or not.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on April 25, 2023, 06:43:49 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

If he chooses to do so, it's better not to go all-in. Only invest an amount that he can afford to lose if that's the only source of income he has.

This also reminds me of my sister who used to ask me if it's okay for her entire savings to go all-in on Bitcoin, but I educated her not to because of the high risks as well as the unpredictability of the market.

Proper guidance if ever that the person or the retiree are really interested to put his savings into this investment, providing all the information that may allow him to think twice is the help that you can do to avoid letting him to invest everything, if you can influence the person or if you can educate him, there's a bigger chance that he may go deeper before placing his money.

At the end of the day, it's still his decision to make as he owns the money and anything he decides will depend on how he projects
the potential earnings that he will gain from this market.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: MiF on April 25, 2023, 11:38:16 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
It is always safe to invest in bitcoin than any other coin in crypto because bitcoin is very legit coin and many investors already earn by holding it, as long as you have patience to hold and you will not sell at loss then bitcoin is a good investment for you, patience is the most important in investing btc specially in a bear market because bear market can boost your emotions and many investors loss thier patience when they see thier investment falling day by day think of it before doing such thing.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on April 25, 2023, 11:44:04 PM
I'd say never advice someone to invest in something that's just quite fluctuative with their pension fund, like in stocks and bitcoin, it just too much risk for them if that's the only money they've got for their old age, even diversification won't do much in this regard if economy is tanking then these investments will also tanks.
pension fund usually are funds that many couldn't afford to lose, and certainly the nature of many investment instruments nowaday is that, they fluctuate too much, they've got volatility that's too high, in which i'm gonna refrain from investing in them if i got the money which i can't afford to lose, imagine being homeless in the retirement age, that's gonna be ironic.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: rhodelmabanal on April 26, 2023, 04:03:35 AM
If the pension is big and there is an extra money after you spend it to your needs then your free to invest, i believe that bitcoin is a good coin to invest but it is still risky because it is high on volatility and it is very unpredictable. Pension funds is good because it doesn't have interest all the earnings from investment will go to your savings not on interest.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: wxa7115 on April 26, 2023, 05:38:08 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
It should be obvious that any kind of investment has some degree of risk and the same is true for bitcoin and altcoins, the question that your friend should ask is if they have the necessary knowledge and skills to invest in this market and diminish the risk to themselves at the same time?

If they cannot do it, and we must admit the majority of the people out there cannot do this, then they need to stay away from this market, but if they can do it then investing in bitcoin can be one of the best decisions they could take, as this could enhance their retirement funds and help them to retire early or to do so with a higher living standard.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Strongkored on April 26, 2023, 06:39:58 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Retirement funds should be sufficient to fulfill the lives of elderly people, especially the elderly are not like young people who still have enough desires to require large funds to fulfill this.
If the investment is made when the person is already in the retirement stage then it is very risky, because he hopes to get more money but in reality it is the opposite, his life which should have been calmer became problematic because the investment in Bitcoin did not work as expected, because even though Bitcoin is a good investment but it is only done for the long term whereas the elderly may not have enough time to wait for that to happen, unless he wants to do that as an inheritance for his family someday
Hopefully, you Op will not give the wrong advice that will endanger the person's life.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: death69 on April 26, 2023, 11:04:29 AM
Others? No. Yours? Yes. I personally have all of my retirement fund in bitcoin and I think it is going to be very important to make that change. I know that if you take others money and invest that into bitcoin then you would be in a big trouble and you should not do that, but when we are talking about just bitcoin and when we are talking about just you? That changes things and you should be able to invest without a trouble.

Not a lot of people can make a big change like that and put all their retirement fund into crypto, because they would be afraid of it. However, I am not afraid of it and I trust that it will do much better for sure. I think it is going to make a big change soon and the price will be a lot better in the end so you should keep holding it.
It all matters with risk taking because its  ours decision to make and among all it was our money to be used and not into others, which means that it would be that impossible that you arent aware about the risks

on the time that you do make out some decision on investing or making use of your pension funds into Bitcoin.Yes, it is indeed risky because we dont really know on what the future holds or what are the things
that would happen in next but somewhat we do really have the idea and able to see on what it does back into a decade back which we can say that it does really have the chance that the  risks you have
taken would really be that worth.
Somewhat if it isnt something that you could be able to afford on doing so, then its better to skip out but if you could be able to bare up the risks then it would be always be falling
into your own choice whether you do proceed or not.
It's all about that gamble, amigo! The eternal waltz of risk and reward, keeping us traders on our toes. Let's be real, sometimes we're in it for the adrenaline high. Life's way too brief for constant caution, right? But for realsies, folks, when it comes to Bitcoin investment, we're talking high-stakes skydiving. You're hoping that 'chute deploys as you plunge. Yeah, it's exhilarating, but you'd better know your stuff before taking the plunge.

I mean, face the facts, peeps. The future's a murky mystery. We're all just chucking darts blindfolded, praying for a bullseye. But when you dive into that risk, make sure it's for legit reasons. So, self-check time. What's your motive? The excitement? Potential windfalls? Or are you trying to outdo yourself or others? Whatever drives you, ensure it's the real deal. And hey, if uncertainty's got you shook, remember this gem: our only fear is fear itself. Oh, and losing our cashola.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Johnyz on April 26, 2023, 11:24:47 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
Pension funds should not be invested with Bitcoin, there's a big risk to lose that money and its not advisable at all.
Pension funds are still best handle by professional fund manager because they know what risk is the best for you. Bitcoin is for your short term to medium term goal only but if its for long term goal, make sure you analyze the risk and you are ready for that. Personally, I still prefer bonds and stocks for my retirement fund.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 26, 2023, 11:34:55 AM
If the pension is big and there is an extra money after you spend it to your needs then your free to invest, i believe that bitcoin is a good coin to invest but it is still risky because it is high on volatility and it is very unpredictable. Pension funds is good because it doesn't have interest all the earnings from investment will go to your savings not on interest.

In everything we must learn not to put all egg on the same basket, you may divide your pension funds into two or more category and uses one out of it to invest on bitcoin, i will give this kind of advise to anyone because the cryptocurrency we are dealing with here is bitcoin and not altcoins, if not i wouldn't have supported risking it on any other crypto that may took the entire money away anytime, there's no point in holding down your pension fund with banks when you can make a very good and interesting profit from bitcoin investment within some time and you can get double or more which fiat banks cannot offer you.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: samcrypto on April 26, 2023, 12:31:30 PM
I remember an incident in my country before where old people are get attracted into an investment scheme that promised them a guaranteed return, but it turns out a scam offer and many suffer before of this. Bitcoin is not meant for this, don't ever take that risk because it will not be worth it.

I know the hype with Bitcoin is too much, but investing of Bitcoin for retirement purposes might not be ideal at all.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: maydna on April 26, 2023, 01:05:32 PM
If the pension is big and there is an extra money after you spend it to your needs then your free to invest, i believe that bitcoin is a good coin to invest but it is still risky because it is high on volatility and it is very unpredictable. Pension funds is good because it doesn't have interest all the earnings from investment will go to your savings not on interest.
Usually, the pension fund will be large, but it depends on a person's years of service in his office. But if the pension fund is not too big and only enough to prepare for daily needs, he should first calculate it to know how much money is still there. From there, he can only invest in bitcoin by allocating a certain amount of money to buy bitcoins regularly. But if the pension is large, he can immediately buy bitcoins in stages and save some of the retirement money for other needs. He can have preparation for his future by having a bitcoin investment.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 27, 2023, 10:38:36 PM
I remember an incident in my country before where old people are get attracted into an investment scheme that promised them a guaranteed return, but it turns out a scam offer and many suffer before of this. Bitcoin is not meant for this, don't ever take that risk because it will not be worth it.

I know the hype with Bitcoin is too much, but investing of Bitcoin for retirement purposes might not be ideal at all.
We cant really deny that old people are really that susceptible on getting fooled or getting scammed because they arent really that knowledgeable on the things that currently existing specially on new innovations or something that it isnt really on their awareness which it is really that sad that there are people who do really make advantage out of it to scam out those elderly. For those someone who are still
that young and having that storing about funds for their pension then it would never been that suggestable on going all in with Bitcoin investment.
Lets say that its a good option but going all in is never been that advisable.

If the pension is big and there is an extra money after you spend it to your needs then your free to invest, i believe that bitcoin is a good coin to invest but it is still risky because it is high on volatility and it is very unpredictable. Pension funds is good because it doesn't have interest all the earnings from investment will go to your savings not on interest.
Usually, the pension fund will be large, but it depends on a person's years of service in his office. But if the pension fund is not too big and only enough to prepare for daily needs, he should first calculate it to know how much money is still there. From there, he can only invest in bitcoin by allocating a certain amount of money to buy bitcoins regularly. But if the pension is large, he can immediately buy bitcoins in stages and save some of the retirement money for other needs. He can have preparation for his future by having a bitcoin investment.
On the time that you would be having no work then of course you should really be thinking on advanced on what are the things that you should really be doing. It would really be just
common sense that you would really be planning all along on whats ahead. You cant really just put it all on investment because we do really have that daily needs which
we know that we need up some funds. Its true that retirement fund or pension wont really be that big or something you could
really rely.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Reid on April 27, 2023, 11:00:34 PM
If the pension funds have no use, then so be it, invest it with something else. If Bitcoin is your friends pick, then go for it. Tell him don't go looking for high returns in a short manner of time. If he is dying then he should probably just use it to enjoy life, but if he has other plans like giving this investment to his grandchild then it could be a good way for inheritance.
It's not easy finding investments with high returns than has no high risk. Most of them are scams so forget about looking for those.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Unbunplease on April 27, 2023, 11:51:00 PM
Investing has always been a risky endeavor, no matter where you invest. So don't invest until the last minute. Should I invest my retirement savings anywhere? If your age allows you to save more, you can take the risk. If not yet, it's worth thinking a thousand times over.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 28, 2023, 02:25:01 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
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The bolded text is enough to answer your question already.

You worked for years to earn that fund of yours, and then you will just invest it into an asset that's unpredictable? That's volatile? Yes it can give you some profits, but will the pensioner be ready to fact the losses that he might get if he chooses to take the risk and invest all of his pension funds into Bitcoin.

If the pension knows what Bitcoin is then I guess he can invest "A LITTLE PORTION" of his funds into it. I'm not saying all of it, half of it or most of it, but a portion of it only. That's a safer approach when it comes to investing into cryptocurrency. Right now, no one's a safe investment, and even bonds aren't safe as well.

Since he's your friend, maybe I suggest to guide him, and teach him what Bitcoin is if he's eager enough to learn it. If he's interested, guide him then let him decide whether he wants to invest into it or not. Just make sure that don't lure him into some typical shitty scam investments out there. :)


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: justdimin on April 28, 2023, 06:02:25 AM
If the pension is big and there is an extra money after you spend it to your needs then your free to invest, i believe that bitcoin is a good coin to invest but it is still risky because it is high on volatility and it is very unpredictable. Pension funds is good because it doesn't have interest all the earnings from investment will go to your savings not on interest.
Usually, the pension fund will be large, but it depends on a person's years of service in his office. But if the pension fund is not too big and only enough to prepare for daily needs, he should first calculate it to know how much money is still there. From there, he can only invest in bitcoin by allocating a certain amount of money to buy bitcoins regularly. But if the pension is large, he can immediately buy bitcoins in stages and save some of the retirement money for other needs. He can have preparation for his future by having a bitcoin investment.
I think it is important to focus on how it could help you when you are old. There are different approaches, like some prefer dividend approach where you make enough monthly to live on that, and the investment could also grow, but the important part is to make an income from it to live off, like buying a house and renting that out, same logic.

Some rather have a bigger and bigger capital, like no income from it, but it goes bigger, so instead of paying dividends, they use that to buy another factory to grow, that type of understanding, which is fine too. So when you decide that, then you can know how much you can or should invest into bitcoin because it may not give you income, but it could grow a lot bigger in the future as well.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 28, 2023, 06:49:30 AM
If the pension funds have no use, then so be it, invest it with something else. If Bitcoin is your friends pick, then go for it. Tell him don't go looking for high returns in a short manner of time. If he is dying then he should probably just use it to enjoy life, but if he has other plans like giving this investment to his grandchild then it could be a good way for inheritance.
It's not easy finding investments with high returns than has no high risk. Most of them are scams so forget about looking for those.

But that doesn't mean that he should invest all of his pensions , just a percentage of it because you are already old that time and for sure you need medicine , foods and ETC to keep you alive and enjoy life. Just treat it as an hobby because most of those old people I've noticed they will make a hobby that they will enjoy because that is the time to enjoy your self and stop focusing on earning money but that investment is good for you and for your family.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: AicecreaME on April 28, 2023, 07:25:29 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Actually it depends on how you define "safe".

If it is "safe" like no one is gonna be able to steal it or "safe" like it's gonna pump forever continuously after you invested on it, then no. Investing your money in Bitcoin is a rollercoaster ride, because the market is not always green, it's red, when it is bear market. Now, if you're gonna hold it for a while, like you're not after the profit in short term period, then yes, it is safe but make sure you're gonna store it in a hardware wallet or in a cold wallet.

Just make sure as well that your private keys is safe, and no one except you knows about it.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: touseefahmad1999 on April 28, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin is a controversial topic that has been discussed among financial experts for quite some time. The first thing to consider is that Bitcoin is a highly volatile asset, and its price can fluctuate dramatically in a short period. This makes it a risky investment for those who are looking for a stable and secure investment option, such as retirees.

However, it is worth noting that some pension funds and financial institutions have started to allocate a small percentage of their portfolios to Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. They do this to diversify their portfolios and potentially enhance investment returns. But, it is important to remember that such investments are still relatively new and carry a high degree of risk.

It is also crucial to consider the legal and regulatory frameworks that govern pension funds in different jurisdictions. In some cases, pension funds may have restrictions on the types of assets they can invest in or the percentage of assets that can be invested in high-risk investments. As a result, it is vital to consult with a financial advisor who is well-versed in pension funds and investment strategies before making any decisions.

In conclusion, investing pension funds in Bitcoin can potentially generate higher returns, but it is a risky investment that requires careful consideration and expert guidance. Ultimately, the decision to invest in Bitcoin or any other asset class should be based on the individual's risk tolerance, financial goals, and investment horizon


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Kgdktac on April 28, 2023, 04:42:27 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

some pension funds may choose to invest a portion of their assets in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies as a way to diversify their portfolio and potentially increase returns. But any investment decision should be made with careful consideration.

 Even though pension funds have a fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of their beneficiaries, they still have to be Prudent in choice of investment and what size of the Funds they should risk


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: lalabotax on April 28, 2023, 08:25:37 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.
If I were you, I will not do it because it is high risk, moreover if your friend ask it because he knew Bitcoin from you, this will be high risk for you. Because if something bad happened to his Bitcoin investment, this will harm you and probably will make your relationship or friendship gettibg worse.
Related to investing in Bitcoin using retirement fund, actually, there are some people who are also doing this. But, they are not using all in Bitcoin investment. I also think so, investing in Bitcoin for retirement fund may be very promising. But this is not exactly safe 100%. That is why I will divide my money into twonpart at least. First is for real life investment in gold or property or certain business. And some are for Bitcoin.
 But the first thing is that your friend must understand the cycle of Bitcoin market and also how the crypto works.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Viscore on April 28, 2023, 08:27:26 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
The fact that this is your hard-earned and retirement savings, then the more that you have to be careful on what and where to utilize those funds. If you only invest it without caution, then you might see yourself ending as a beggar when everything you earned had totally lost because you take so much risk through investing. Though it’s not wrong to invest because that’s your own money in the first place, but never invest in an amount that you can’t afford to lose. Just like with bitcoin, no matter how promising it is, but it’s still a high risky investment that you can’t be assure of how that investment may end, so just invest a little portion of your funds so that if you happen to lose them, that will not greatly affect your retirement plans and decisions.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Russlenat on April 28, 2023, 08:41:30 PM
I'd say never advice someone to invest in something that's just quite fluctuative with their pension fund, like in stocks and bitcoin, it just too much risk for them if that's the only money they've got for their old age, even diversification won't do much in this regard if economy is tanking then these investments will also tanks.
pension fund usually are funds that many couldn't afford to lose, and certainly the nature of many investment instruments nowaday is that, they fluctuate too much, they've got volatility that's too high, in which i'm gonna refrain from investing in them if i got the money which i can't afford to lose, imagine being homeless in the retirement age, that's gonna be ironic.
Retirement funds are best to be just enjoyed and satisfy your life, and not to enter risk taking investments that could trigger and may lose eventually all the funds. Old aged people have already weak emotions and they just easily faint when something’s wrong is happening. So I guess bitcoin investment will not suit them, as it’s price volatility will definitely make their emotions become a roller coaster. Though bitcoin investment is very promising and profitable, but let’s say that this investment might also create life changing losses if not handled properly. So I would advise to just stay away from this kind of investment as they may end up being homeless if they insist to.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: molsewid on April 28, 2023, 09:37:35 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
First of all, we should know at the first place that crypto is volatile. Investing in bitcoin is a good thing but it is your retirement or pension funds, maybe do not put all eggs in one basket. Learn to diversify your assets, investing in any kind of platform and system is already risky and there's no 100% to any of it, you just need to understand the market and the trend of that coin, sometimes you might even lose so I suggest do not invest too much, he should enjoy his saving as well.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: TimeTeller on April 28, 2023, 09:39:32 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
First of all, we should know at the first place that crypto is volatile. Investing in bitcoin is a good thing but it is your retirement or pension funds, maybe do not put all eggs in one basket. Learn to diversify your assets, investing in any kind of platform and system is already risky and there's no 100% to any of it, you just need to understand the market and the trend of that coin, sometimes you might even lose so I suggest do not invest too much, he should enjoy his saving as well.

Maybe, he can put some if he already learn the risks of getting involve in this market.
But if he doesn't know at all how this market performs, better not to.
As this is retirement funds, much better if he can invest it in more tangible assets like real-estate.
For those who will advise him to go in crypto, I hope they won't be blamed if his assets will go downward at the time of withdrawal.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on April 29, 2023, 12:12:03 AM
I'd say never advice someone to invest in something that's just quite fluctuative with their pension fund, like in stocks and bitcoin, it just too much risk for them if that's the only money they've got for their old age, even diversification won't do much in this regard if economy is tanking then these investments will also tanks.
pension fund usually are funds that many couldn't afford to lose, and certainly the nature of many investment instruments nowaday is that, they fluctuate too much, they've got volatility that's too high, in which i'm gonna refrain from investing in them if i got the money which i can't afford to lose, imagine being homeless in the retirement age, that's gonna be ironic.
Retirement funds are best to be just enjoyed and satisfy your life, and not to enter risk taking investments that could trigger and may lose eventually all the funds. Old aged people have already weak emotions and they just easily faint when something’s wrong is happening. So I guess bitcoin investment will not suit them, as it’s price volatility will definitely make their emotions become a roller coaster. Though bitcoin investment is very promising and profitable, but let’s say that this investment might also create life changing losses if not handled properly. So I would advise to just stay away from this kind of investment as they may end up being homeless if they insist to.
thats i agreed. this pension fund usually owned by rather relatively vulnerable people against the ever changing of economic circumstance couldn't afford them to withstand the economic anomaly if there ever one which i always consider to be quite frequently happening.
just let them enjoy their pension fund, and if they want invest always invest in rather low risk investment like obligation and deposits in which rarely i see someone went bankrupt out of it, it's just overall wiser for someone that hardly ever regain their income if something goes wrong.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: worle1bm on April 29, 2023, 06:28:19 AM
The thing is even if we keep our savings in banks they are becoming target of inflation and reducing the fiat value with time so your $100 in banks would not be of the same value after 5 years also so the investment in coins like Bitcoin is what safeguard us from high inflation.No doubt there is risk you loose funds with some dips but it doesn't mean it will not grow afterwards so taking small risks are what will give you return in future.You can have partial investment and rest savings in bank which protects you in both cases.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on April 29, 2023, 11:17:49 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
The fact that this is your hard-earned and retirement savings, then the more that you have to be careful on what and where to utilize those funds. If you only invest it without caution, then you might see yourself ending as a beggar when everything you earned had totally lost because you take so much risk through investing. Though it’s not wrong to invest because that’s your own money in the first place, but never invest in an amount that you can’t afford to lose. Just like with bitcoin, no matter how promising it is, but it’s still a high risky investment that you can’t be assure of how that investment may end, so just invest a little portion of your funds so that if you happen to lose them, that will not greatly affect your retirement plans and decisions.

A matter of how you trust the market and how you understand the venue of your investment, it's true that the money that we are talking here is a pension money which you deserve to whatever things you wanted to use it, if you have better knowledge with Bitcoin and you believe that the market can bring something decent in a span of time, then so be it.

Make your investment but always plan, set the amount and never to go all-in as there's always a big risk behind any investment,

splitting your money and divert some to other investment venue may help and give something to cover while waiting for your money
to grow.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Sanitough on April 29, 2023, 12:29:46 PM
I'd say never advice someone to invest in something that's just quite fluctuative with their pension fund, like in stocks and bitcoin, it just too much risk for them if that's the only money they've got for their old age, even diversification won't do much in this regard if economy is tanking then these investments will also tanks.
pension fund usually are funds that many couldn't afford to lose, and certainly the nature of many investment instruments nowaday is that, they fluctuate too much, they've got volatility that's too high, in which i'm gonna refrain from investing in them if i got the money which i can't afford to lose, imagine being homeless in the retirement age, that's gonna be ironic.
However, if they really want to take part in investing, then they can still invest but with a minimal amount only, and not literally the whole pension funds as they could totally lose them in an instant especially if they only invest without proper knowledge and guidance. But I will never convince them to enter in this kind of investment, certainly not at their old age and weak hearts. Yes, bitcoin is highly profitable, but maybe this kind of investment is not for everyone.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Mauser on April 30, 2023, 06:37:17 AM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

That is not an easy answer we can give here. In general it makes sense to spread out investments across a broader spectrum of asset classes to reduce the overall risk profile of the portfolio. Diversification is the main concept insurance companies use to try and generate a steady income over time, while protecting the asset against downward risks. That is why the investment guidelines for pension funds are quite long and restrictive. For example, there are fixed percentages on how much the fund can put into stocks or hold in cash. And then are single stock limits the don't allow the fund to put more than 2-3% into one single stock. With so many restrictions I don't think that older pension funds are allowed to invest in crypto currencies. For more newer funds that have been created in the last 3-5 years there might be a small fraction of the capital be allowed in bitcoins and other crytpos.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on April 30, 2023, 11:22:11 PM
Why not? The question is - how profitable is it? This is a completely different question that requires analysis and a different answer. As for security, I don't think there are big problems.
the profit that it could generate isn't the only thing that will be the most important question when it comes to investing with pension fund but instead how reliable it is, and how safe it is considering pension fund is rather crucial and I don't think that investing it recklessly will give good outcome, in fact with pension fund one should be really careful and I think low interest is enough when it comes to these investments that requires careful consideration.
like take an example investing in altcoin might seem really good, maybe it could give the potential of multiplying the pension fund which honestly could be life changing but what if suddenly the coin vanish into thin air the investment then failed, guess with what money they gonna live with in their retirements.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: blockman on April 30, 2023, 11:23:40 PM
Why not? The question is - how profitable is it? This is a completely different question that requires analysis and a different answer.
It's because a pension fund is entirely for someone's need and it needs to be used properly. We all advocate investing in Bitcoin but if that person is all that he's got.

As for security, I don't think there are big problems.
At some point if someone can attain to invest 1 month worth of his pension into bitcoin and it shouldn't be a problem at all, then why we shouldn't worry, right?


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Lanatsa on April 30, 2023, 11:28:49 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
The fact that this is your hard-earned and retirement savings, then the more that you have to be careful on what and where to utilize those funds. If you only invest it without caution, then you might see yourself ending as a beggar when everything you earned had totally lost because you take so much risk through investing. Though it’s not wrong to invest because that’s your own money in the first place, but never invest in an amount that you can’t afford to lose. Just like with bitcoin, no matter how promising it is, but it’s still a high risky investment that you can’t be assure of how that investment may end, so just invest a little portion of your funds so that if you happen to lose them, that will not greatly affect your retirement plans and decisions.

A matter of how you trust the market and how you understand the venue of your investment, it's true that the money that we are talking here is a pension money which you deserve to whatever things you wanted to use it, if you have better knowledge with Bitcoin and you believe that the market can bring something decent in a span of time, then so be it.

Make your investment but always plan, set the amount and never to go all-in as there's always a big risk behind any investment,

splitting your money and divert some to other investment venue may help and give something to cover while waiting for your money
to grow.
Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Good_Doctor on May 01, 2023, 02:57:26 AM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin would be considered a high-risk investment strategy that may not be suitable for everyone. It is very important to remember that retirement savings are generally considered a long-term investment and that too much risk may not be suitable for those approaching or in retirement.
This is true and its something that they should really be minding on on which they should be aware about the risks involved.It might sound seem to be a good idea because of its popularity and its been known about increasing prices but it doesnt really remove the fact that risks is always there but its better not to make yourself that not minding about those risks but if you do able to bare up such risks and opt to make
investment or savings on your pension fund then it would be your own choice.As a friend or known someone then i wont really be making no guarantees or making out suggestions in regarding their
pension funds or on what they should gonna do.They are the ones who do make out such decision and it isnt bad to give out that kind of warning though to someone who do have those kind of considerations.

You're correct! Although sometimes these people don't have any idea on crypto market and so would need your help especially when they've heard that it's possible to benefit hugely from crypto trading, Bitcoin precisely.
So if the person has a resolute mindset in trading with his or her pension funds then you can give a helping hand.
Stating clearly the likelihood of losing from the trading! This is very important for the pensioner to note . Seen friendship go bad due to things like this though!


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on May 01, 2023, 05:33:01 AM
       -  If the person who has an investment fund from his pension also has a deep knowledge of bitcoin and knows the high risk involved in it, I am sure he will not hesitate to invest in bitcoin. This is if there is a deep knowledge of the bitcoin concept.

Now, if you don't have enough knowledge, it is advisable not to risk your funds investing in bitcoin without first knowing it well. You shouldn't just send in the hype because a close friend just said it, because for sure the expectation is there and the thoughts are high.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on May 01, 2023, 12:00:46 PM

Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.

That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: wxa7115 on May 02, 2023, 05:02:25 AM
       -  If the person who has an investment fund from his pension also has a deep knowledge of bitcoin and knows the high risk involved in it, I am sure he will not hesitate to invest in bitcoin. This is if there is a deep knowledge of the bitcoin concept.

Now, if you don't have enough knowledge, it is advisable not to risk your funds investing in bitcoin without first knowing it well. You shouldn't just send in the hype because a close friend just said it, because for sure the expectation is there and the thoughts are high.
Unfortunately the latter is way more common than the former, the number of investors that come to the market after making their due diligence and learning how to trade is incredibly low when you compare them to the number of traders which come here attracted by the allure of easy money.

Which in a way is kind of funny because the only ones that can make easy money out of this market are the whales, which can manipulate the market and take advantage of those naive traders.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: devil2man on May 02, 2023, 06:07:58 AM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is a controversial topic. Some experts argue that cryptocurrencies are too volatile and risky for pension funds, which tend to be more conservative and risk-averse investors. Therefore, whether or not it is safe to invest pension funds in Bitcoin depends on individual risk tolerance and regulatory frameworks.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: justdimin on May 02, 2023, 08:31:40 AM
Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.
That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.
That is a bit of vague answer though. I mean is it safe or not? Surely it depends on how much you know, and that is important without a doubt. But when you look at the market right now you realize that it is not really that weird and not really that different.

I personally hope that the best thing to do in this case is to invest some part of your pension to just bitcoin and hold it until you retire, not make any moves just because it went up or down. That is an answer, it says you should put some of it, doesn't say how much so that part is still vague, but doesn't say it doesn't know. That's an important part of it. I know that we can't really make a big deal about how much we know, but we can't just say they have to make their own decision neither.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 02, 2023, 08:38:21 AM
Generally, when an employee makes a return from a job, that employee is given a one-time allowance, which is usually called a pension. Pension money is the security of a person at the end of his life. Many live their lives depending on the money in that pension. Because people usually don't get that importance in the last years of life. But if that pension money is invested it will be a very risky matter for that person. If the pension money is damaged for any reason then the person will spend his last life depending on what. 

The best time to invest for him was when he was employed and getting salary every month. At that time, if some part of the salary was invested every month, then maybe the money gained from the investment along with the pension money would have been useful in his later life. But I think it is better not to invest the pension money.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 02, 2023, 09:05:31 AM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Every type of investment is associated with some degree of risk and investing pension in Bitcoin can be highly risky as Bitcoin value can fluctuate significantly in short periods, and there is no guarantee that this investment will yield high amount of returns, so make informed decision based on your risk tolerance limits . There are many organization who make investment in pension funds on behalf of their clients, and this kind of investment is relatively safe as it is a mixture of low and high risky assets including Bitcoin. This approach, which involves diversification of investments, is considered relatively safe to invest in pension funds.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: jaberwock on May 03, 2023, 06:35:00 PM
Government provides pension when a person get retired or completed his work for 60 years and I think there is no need of saving because Government offers you money after 60 years without any job and this is enough to fulfill one's need. But if a person want to make Investment then from  monthly pension he can  save little amount in Bitcoin it will be beneficial for him. I think everyone should save some money for their children no matter in which form may be its in bitcoin form or some another business but its the better way, also use little amount so you will have no worries at all whenever business drops or reduces in price.
Savings or investing might still be needed because not all pensioners are receiving a good amount of money and what if you are living an above-average life and then you have your kids which also demands you money from time to time? We can use little amount for investing not only to cut the risk but it allows us to invest in other type of assets. It's important because not all times Bitcoin is increasing and can provide us an income.

As a senior, our kids are the ones that will provide us money because our role on supporting them is done. All what we need to do now is to relax and worry less. Pension should be enough for us as long as we want to live a simple life.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: |MINER| on May 03, 2023, 07:30:23 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
In my opinion it will be never good decision or a wise decision if anyone did investment his/her full pension fund in Cryptocurrency trading . Because Cryptocurrency trading is highily volatile and also high risky so it should be always considered that investment should be in Cryptocurrency as much as you can afford to loose. So if the fund of pension is only asset then investment should be in some percentage of that fund so rather than it can give a good profit after a long time period.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 03, 2023, 08:17:49 PM
I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
There are two ways to invest your pension funds in BTC, one is after getting the pension fund you plan to buy BTC and the second is during your stay in the company you asked them to buy BTC for your Pension in both ways these are good investments. But analysis and planning is everything.

For example, if you are wondering to make 2x to 4x profits on your capital with your pension funds then it's going to take time and you may have to wait a few years as halving takes time.

But, i prefer you to not put all of your pension in BTC because who knows the future, as i am not saying BTC will not survive till you retirement but all I am saying diversifying will make your profits more assure. So, why risk everything? As most of people have no money other than a pension so if they will risk it they could face unpredicted results too.

You should save around 30% to 50% in fiat and the opposite in BTC so that even in wild situations you could survive from both ends. And do not forget to perform DCA in BTC buying. As I don't know if the BTC pile will help mainly you in the end but it will help your offspring as you can leave it as an inheritance if you don't have property, There are many threads already made on this forum, on which members had shared their interest towards using BTC as an inheritance for there new generations.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: freedomgo on May 03, 2023, 08:52:18 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
It’s actually an individual’s choice. You can always invest an amount that you can afford to lose, but I don’t think this is the case here. Retirees are more emotional and could easily burst out once they don’t like what they are seeing and feeling, so as much as possible they should not be exposed in high risk investments as it would trigger their emotional and mental health. I would suggest to never use pension funds in any investment, there’s no guarantee if the money will certainly grow or will eventually lose all the amount.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: goaldigger on May 03, 2023, 09:41:57 PM
Investing pension funds in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is a controversial topic. Some experts argue that cryptocurrencies are too volatile and risky for pension funds, which tend to be more conservative and risk-averse investors. Therefore, whether or not it is safe to invest pension funds in Bitcoin depends on individual risk tolerance and regulatory frameworks.
Volatility and its risk will be the top main concern if you are going to invest your retirement fund with Bitcoin, this is a high risk and high reward and I’m sure some can’t afford to take such risk because of being afraid. Better to have some financial advisor and seek for what is better for you, don’t just listen to any hype because your future will be at risk and you might regret it. Bitcoin is good for me but I don’t see this option for my retirement funds.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: macson on May 03, 2023, 10:07:53 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
the price of bitcoin is very volatile, so it must be considered carefully before actually deciding to buy bitcoin with a retirement fund, but one thing is certain, the price of bitcoin will continue to increase over time due to adoption that cannot be avoided. 

My advice is for the long term saving, don't store bitcoin purchased at CEX, save them in a personal wallet after that save the password and private key of the bitcoins purchased very safely and only you know where they are stored.

It must also be remembered that the best way to buy bitcoin is with a pension fund, which is to buy it in stages, moreover, pension funds must be received periodically, not all at once.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: blockman on May 03, 2023, 11:01:13 PM
The best time to invest for him was when he was employed and getting salary every month. At that time, if some part of the salary was invested every month, then maybe the money gained from the investment along with the pension money would have been useful in his later life. But I think it is better not to invest the pension money.
I think that's what he did and thus, he's got a pension fund. But it's too late to discuss that when it's all about his younger days and when he should invest.
Well, people who have gotten old and didn't invest a lot during their younger days could have a lot of reasons that we will never know but then, it's good to see old people thinking that they should invest with bitcoin even with their pension funds. They need to understand the risk that it has and it's not just an overtime profits for them because of the risk, there's also a bigger chance that they might just lose it.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on May 03, 2023, 11:14:18 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
As you noted, pension funds typically have a fiduciary responsibility to safeguard their contributors' retirement savings and ensure their long-term financial security. This means that pension funds must balance the potential risks and rewards of different investment options, taking into account factors such as volatility, liquidity, and regulatory oversight. Pension funds are often subject to strict investment guidelines and regulations that limit their exposure to risky assets, including cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin.

Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on May 04, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.
That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.
That is a bit of vague answer though. I mean is it safe or not? Surely it depends on how much you know, and that is important without a doubt. But when you look at the market right now you realize that it is not really that weird and not really that different.

I personally hope that the best thing to do in this case is to invest some part of your pension to just bitcoin and hold it until you retire, not make any moves just because it went up or down. That is an answer, it says you should put some of it, doesn't say how much so that part is still vague, but doesn't say it doesn't know. That's an important part of it. I know that we can't really make a big deal about how much we know, but we can't just say they have to make their own decision neither.

It is a decision to make if they are willing to take the risk, pension money is something that they work hard during their early age and if they will use it as investment it's better that they fully understand what they are doing, like we both said, portion and not the entire pension is good enough if they really wanted to invest in this venue of business.

There's nothing aside from their own understanding and knowledge that will stop or prevent anyone to invest to what they believe they can earn decently.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: jossiel on May 04, 2023, 09:04:58 PM
Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.
I agree, this is the same as investing your life savings in Bitcoin.

I have seen in the past that did it and bet all in with Bitcoin and many of them didn't do no good because they're impatient. This isn't just going to grow on an instant or overnight for which many think is being like that.

Just no.

If someone wants to invest his pension funds in Bitcoin, answer the question if you already know how volatile Bitcoin was and if you're already prepared to get a bumpy road with this investing journey.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: lombok on May 07, 2023, 07:36:18 PM
Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.
I agree, this is the same as investing your life savings in Bitcoin.

I have seen in the past that did it and bet all in with Bitcoin and many of them didn't do no good because they're impatient. This isn't just going to grow on an instant or overnight for which many think is being like that.

Just no.

If someone wants to invest his pension funds in Bitcoin, answer the question if you already know how volatile Bitcoin was and if you're already prepared to get a bumpy road with this investing journey.

Nice advice.
But there is still a chance that our retirement funds invested in Bitcoin will provide a decent return. Of course, by using a portion or what percentage of the total pension funds we receive. So we can invest the rest in other assets or build a small business as well as for living expenses.
Investing in Bitcoin doesn't need much as long as we can be consistent. For example, a $ 100,000 retirement fund, $5000 - $ 10,000 is more than enough for a Bitcoin investment. Or just start with $100 - $500. We are free to start with any amount.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: bettercrypto on May 07, 2023, 08:53:36 PM
If you receive your pension every month and if you can survive 50% of your pension in a month, you can invest in Bitcoin in a 50/50 method, in short you can split your pension into two.

     But I also want you to understand that there is a risk here anyway, no matter what your decision is, you should understand what you are going to do about something like this because money is involved. You have to do it with all your will and you won't blame anyone else even if the result is negative in the end.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 08, 2023, 07:34:01 PM
Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.
That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.
That is a bit of vague answer though. I mean is it safe or not? Surely it depends on how much you know, and that is important without a doubt. But when you look at the market right now you realize that it is not really that weird and not really that different.

I personally hope that the best thing to do in this case is to invest some part of your pension to just bitcoin and hold it until you retire, not make any moves just because it went up or down. That is an answer, it says you should put some of it, doesn't say how much so that part is still vague, but doesn't say it doesn't know. That's an important part of it. I know that we can't really make a big deal about how much we know, but we can't just say they have to make their own decision neither.

It is a decision to make if they are willing to take the risk, pension money is something that they work hard during their early age and if they will use it as investment it's better that they fully understand what they are doing, like we both said, portion and not the entire pension is good enough if they really wanted to invest in this venue of business.

There's nothing aside from their own understanding and knowledge that will stop or prevent anyone to invest to what they believe they can earn decently.

It is really indeed a matter of risks taking because when it comes to these kind of decisions on which risk taking thing is really that crucial, not all would be able to take up such risks specially when we do talk about

pension funds which is something that would really be giving out some assurance on the time that we do get old and doesnt have that work anymore.If you are aware of the risks then it would be your choice on going all in but if not then you could always choose on having some partial investment into it whether it would be playing around 20-30% or according into your risks appetite.

Not all would really be having on the same risks level or appetite on which there are ones who could be able to invest but pretty aware on whats the risks behind.Some would really be going into the opposite way.
Investment is never been safe specially on something that it is really that speculative. We cant really just put up money and just wait for us to get rich.
This isnt how this market opportunity do give.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Vaculin on May 08, 2023, 08:42:53 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Fredomago on May 08, 2023, 08:53:43 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
Following your point of view, those old aged people are also prone to heart attacks I can't imagine what will be the reactions of those people if they will invest their pensions to this market and encounter a big dump, if those old age people are not mentally and financially ready with that kind of situation it will be possible for them to experience a heart attack.

Thinking about a failed investment at their age, so yes, with your argument better not to proceed and just use the pension money to live your life while you are still capable to enjoy with your receive money.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: Slow death on May 08, 2023, 09:04:52 PM
Basic rule of any investment: never invest money you can't afford to lose. this is not just with bitcoin, even the real world business that people can swear to you will work, one should never put money into an investment using money they cannot afford to lose, in cases of pensions to people they should not take a pension to put into investments unless the person knows that he has enough money to cover all expenses and always has some money left, in which case it makes sense to put the money in bitcoin in some other high risk investment

for example a person who has a pension of 1000$ per month, so this person has his own house and at the end of the month when he takes the money for 30 days of food, pays the water and electricity bill, pays the employee and is left with 200$, then this person can take 50$ and invest in bitcoin, even if he loses a few dollars something like 5$ and is left with 45$ because the price of bitcoin has dropped a lot still this person will not panic because this person is not depending on the profit of bitcoin for a living, at the end of the day good finance management is the most important thing people need to make good investments

Thinking about a failed investment at their age, so yes, with your argument better not to proceed and just use the pension money to live your life while you are still capable to enjoy with your receive money.

in most casinos people who receive pension are not very old so if they have good planning and financial management they can do very well in the cryptocurrency market, we see people aged 50 or more in this cryptocurrency market and they are successful people, so it is possible for someone pensioner who has good financial management to do well in this market


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: abel1337 on May 08, 2023, 09:30:58 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
I personally don't think investing on any cryptocurrency using a pension fund is a good thing. Pension fund is a type of fund that is used by a senior or a person on an old age primarily for food and for medical expenses, Food and medical expenses is just a necessity to carry on our daily lives and removing it to a person will make life extra hard. In short, the quality of life will degrade and the money that supposed to buy the necessity will just go into an uncertain investment. The rule of thumb is to invest money that you can afford to lose and pension fund is not one of those.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on May 08, 2023, 11:40:23 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
this much is true, losing money when reaching the retirement age is not funny, no place to work, smaller chance and opportunity of earning money which simply means earning money becoming even harder than before retiring. the impact of losing pension funds will be massive, I'd doubt they aren't gonna concerned about it, just imagine if someone had invested their pension fund in the previous all time high where cryptocurrency investment was quite rampant i'm sure some have already invested, then the market losing value because some company collapsing, basically making people lose about 80% of their money and if it's pension fund, it will be really heart breaking. i couldn't imagine lack of money in retirement age.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: EdenHazard on May 08, 2023, 11:43:58 PM

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
Following your point of view, those old aged people are also prone to heart attacks I can't imagine what will be the reactions of those people if they will invest their pensions to this market and encounter a big dump, if those old age people are not mentally and financially ready with that kind of situation it will be possible for them to experience a heart attack.

Thinking about a failed investment at their age, so yes, with your argument better not to proceed and just use the pension money to live your life while you are still capable to enjoy with your receive money.
You better dont do it for sure there is a lot more negative impact than the positive impact caused by this idea , you cannot imagine to lose your pension funds that used to make you survive to live the life but then ended your life lol , that's not funny at all so yeah you better not doing that.

Only invest the money that whenever you lose ... it had almost zero impact to your life.


Title: Re: IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?
Post by: duckalis on May 08, 2023, 11:57:27 PM
Investments for retirement are long-term investments of 20–40 years. However, the first cryptocurrency is only 14 years old.
Of course, we can hope that BTC won’t depreciate in another 10 years and even try to predict its price. But no one knows what will happen to the entire crypto market in 20–30 years.