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May 02, 2023, 08:38:21 AM
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Generally, when an employee makes a return from a job, that employee is given a one-time allowance, which is usually called a pension. Pension money is the security of a person at the end of his life. Many live their lives depending on the money in that pension. Because people usually don't get that importance in the last years of life. But if that pension money is invested it will be a very risky matter for that person. If the pension money is damaged for any reason then the person will spend his last life depending on what. 

The best time to invest for him was when he was employed and getting salary every month. At that time, if some part of the salary was invested every month, then maybe the money gained from the investment along with the pension money would have been useful in his later life. But I think it is better not to invest the pension money.

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May 02, 2023, 09:05:31 AM
Last edit: May 02, 2023, 12:02:13 PM by Sayeds56
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Every type of investment is associated with some degree of risk and investing pension in Bitcoin can be highly risky as Bitcoin value can fluctuate significantly in short periods, and there is no guarantee that this investment will yield high amount of returns, so make informed decision based on your risk tolerance limits . There are many organization who make investment in pension funds on behalf of their clients, and this kind of investment is relatively safe as it is a mixture of low and high risky assets including Bitcoin. This approach, which involves diversification of investments, is considered relatively safe to invest in pension funds.









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May 03, 2023, 06:35:00 PM
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Government provides pension when a person get retired or completed his work for 60 years and I think there is no need of saving because Government offers you money after 60 years without any job and this is enough to fulfill one's need. But if a person want to make Investment then from  monthly pension he can  save little amount in Bitcoin it will be beneficial for him. I think everyone should save some money for their children no matter in which form may be its in bitcoin form or some another business but its the better way, also use little amount so you will have no worries at all whenever business drops or reduces in price.
Savings or investing might still be needed because not all pensioners are receiving a good amount of money and what if you are living an above-average life and then you have your kids which also demands you money from time to time? We can use little amount for investing not only to cut the risk but it allows us to invest in other type of assets. It's important because not all times Bitcoin is increasing and can provide us an income.

As a senior, our kids are the ones that will provide us money because our role on supporting them is done. All what we need to do now is to relax and worry less. Pension should be enough for us as long as we want to live a simple life.

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May 03, 2023, 07:30:23 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
In my opinion it will be never good decision or a wise decision if anyone did investment his/her full pension fund in Cryptocurrency trading . Because Cryptocurrency trading is highily volatile and also high risky so it should be always considered that investment should be in Cryptocurrency as much as you can afford to loose. So if the fund of pension is only asset then investment should be in some percentage of that fund so rather than it can give a good profit after a long time period.

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May 03, 2023, 08:17:49 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
There are two ways to invest your pension funds in BTC, one is after getting the pension fund you plan to buy BTC and the second is during your stay in the company you asked them to buy BTC for your Pension in both ways these are good investments. But analysis and planning is everything.

For example, if you are wondering to make 2x to 4x profits on your capital with your pension funds then it's going to take time and you may have to wait a few years as halving takes time.

But, i prefer you to not put all of your pension in BTC because who knows the future, as i am not saying BTC will not survive till you retirement but all I am saying diversifying will make your profits more assure. So, why risk everything? As most of people have no money other than a pension so if they will risk it they could face unpredicted results too.

You should save around 30% to 50% in fiat and the opposite in BTC so that even in wild situations you could survive from both ends. And do not forget to perform DCA in BTC buying. As I don't know if the BTC pile will help mainly you in the end but it will help your offspring as you can leave it as an inheritance if you don't have property, There are many threads already made on this forum, on which members had shared their interest towards using BTC as an inheritance for there new generations.

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May 03, 2023, 08:52:18 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
It’s actually an individual’s choice. You can always invest an amount that you can afford to lose, but I don’t think this is the case here. Retirees are more emotional and could easily burst out once they don’t like what they are seeing and feeling, so as much as possible they should not be exposed in high risk investments as it would trigger their emotional and mental health. I would suggest to never use pension funds in any investment, there’s no guarantee if the money will certainly grow or will eventually lose all the amount.

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May 03, 2023, 09:41:57 PM
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Investing pension funds in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is a controversial topic. Some experts argue that cryptocurrencies are too volatile and risky for pension funds, which tend to be more conservative and risk-averse investors. Therefore, whether or not it is safe to invest pension funds in Bitcoin depends on individual risk tolerance and regulatory frameworks.
Volatility and its risk will be the top main concern if you are going to invest your retirement fund with Bitcoin, this is a high risk and high reward and I’m sure some can’t afford to take such risk because of being afraid. Better to have some financial advisor and seek for what is better for you, don’t just listen to any hype because your future will be at risk and you might regret it. Bitcoin is good for me but I don’t see this option for my retirement funds.

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May 03, 2023, 10:07:53 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
the price of bitcoin is very volatile, so it must be considered carefully before actually deciding to buy bitcoin with a retirement fund, but one thing is certain, the price of bitcoin will continue to increase over time due to adoption that cannot be avoided. 

My advice is for the long term saving, don't store bitcoin purchased at CEX, save them in a personal wallet after that save the password and private key of the bitcoins purchased very safely and only you know where they are stored.

It must also be remembered that the best way to buy bitcoin is with a pension fund, which is to buy it in stages, moreover, pension funds must be received periodically, not all at once.

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May 03, 2023, 11:01:13 PM
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The best time to invest for him was when he was employed and getting salary every month. At that time, if some part of the salary was invested every month, then maybe the money gained from the investment along with the pension money would have been useful in his later life. But I think it is better not to invest the pension money.
I think that's what he did and thus, he's got a pension fund. But it's too late to discuss that when it's all about his younger days and when he should invest.
Well, people who have gotten old and didn't invest a lot during their younger days could have a lot of reasons that we will never know but then, it's good to see old people thinking that they should invest with bitcoin even with their pension funds. They need to understand the risk that it has and it's not just an overtime profits for them because of the risk, there's also a bigger chance that they might just lose it.

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May 03, 2023, 11:14:18 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
As you noted, pension funds typically have a fiduciary responsibility to safeguard their contributors' retirement savings and ensure their long-term financial security. This means that pension funds must balance the potential risks and rewards of different investment options, taking into account factors such as volatility, liquidity, and regulatory oversight. Pension funds are often subject to strict investment guidelines and regulations that limit their exposure to risky assets, including cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin.

Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.

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May 04, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
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Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.
That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.
That is a bit of vague answer though. I mean is it safe or not? Surely it depends on how much you know, and that is important without a doubt. But when you look at the market right now you realize that it is not really that weird and not really that different.

I personally hope that the best thing to do in this case is to invest some part of your pension to just bitcoin and hold it until you retire, not make any moves just because it went up or down. That is an answer, it says you should put some of it, doesn't say how much so that part is still vague, but doesn't say it doesn't know. That's an important part of it. I know that we can't really make a big deal about how much we know, but we can't just say they have to make their own decision neither.

It is a decision to make if they are willing to take the risk, pension money is something that they work hard during their early age and if they will use it as investment it's better that they fully understand what they are doing, like we both said, portion and not the entire pension is good enough if they really wanted to invest in this venue of business.

There's nothing aside from their own understanding and knowledge that will stop or prevent anyone to invest to what they believe they can earn decently.

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May 04, 2023, 09:04:58 PM
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Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.
I agree, this is the same as investing your life savings in Bitcoin.

I have seen in the past that did it and bet all in with Bitcoin and many of them didn't do no good because they're impatient. This isn't just going to grow on an instant or overnight for which many think is being like that.

Just no.

If someone wants to invest his pension funds in Bitcoin, answer the question if you already know how volatile Bitcoin was and if you're already prepared to get a bumpy road with this investing journey.

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May 07, 2023, 07:36:18 PM
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Therefore, invest within your means and do not let it affect your quality of life.
I agree, this is the same as investing your life savings in Bitcoin.

I have seen in the past that did it and bet all in with Bitcoin and many of them didn't do no good because they're impatient. This isn't just going to grow on an instant or overnight for which many think is being like that.

Just no.

If someone wants to invest his pension funds in Bitcoin, answer the question if you already know how volatile Bitcoin was and if you're already prepared to get a bumpy road with this investing journey.

Nice advice.
But there is still a chance that our retirement funds invested in Bitcoin will provide a decent return. Of course, by using a portion or what percentage of the total pension funds we receive. So we can invest the rest in other assets or build a small business as well as for living expenses.
Investing in Bitcoin doesn't need much as long as we can be consistent. For example, a $ 100,000 retirement fund, $5000 - $ 10,000 is more than enough for a Bitcoin investment. Or just start with $100 - $500. We are free to start with any amount.

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May 07, 2023, 08:53:36 PM
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If you receive your pension every month and if you can survive 50% of your pension in a month, you can invest in Bitcoin in a 50/50 method, in short you can split your pension into two.

     But I also want you to understand that there is a risk here anyway, no matter what your decision is, you should understand what you are going to do about something like this because money is involved. You have to do it with all your will and you won't blame anyone else even if the result is negative in the end.



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May 08, 2023, 07:34:01 PM
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Its your money then its you choice to make when it comes to investment choice because we dont know on what future holds and if you do see something that has potential or does have that kind of benefit or somewhat into these categories then you would really be making some move which it would really be just a normal approach but of course this isnt something that talks about on making money,

Always mind off with the risk involved because if you arent that careful when it comes to your investment decisions then all of those funds would really becoming to waste. We are talking about pension funds
on here on which this is something an amount which we would really be that depending on the time that we do get old.

If you could be able to bare up with the risk about Bitcoin investment then its your call.Just make it sure that you do have other investments as well if ever this one fails but even though this is unlikely
but its  better to always have that back up plans because we cant really be sure on what are the things that would happening ahead.
That's the point, if you can take more time to secure your knowledge about this venue of investment then for sure it's not hard to realize the potential of this market, it's your money and taking good care of your finances is very important, if you can put portions of your pension then so be it, but putting everything in that's might need deeper knowledge in case things might not turn into your favor you can still have some portions of your money to use with your needs.

All will depend on how good your understanding is and how you really wanted to take your venture to this venue of investment.
That is a bit of vague answer though. I mean is it safe or not? Surely it depends on how much you know, and that is important without a doubt. But when you look at the market right now you realize that it is not really that weird and not really that different.

I personally hope that the best thing to do in this case is to invest some part of your pension to just bitcoin and hold it until you retire, not make any moves just because it went up or down. That is an answer, it says you should put some of it, doesn't say how much so that part is still vague, but doesn't say it doesn't know. That's an important part of it. I know that we can't really make a big deal about how much we know, but we can't just say they have to make their own decision neither.

It is a decision to make if they are willing to take the risk, pension money is something that they work hard during their early age and if they will use it as investment it's better that they fully understand what they are doing, like we both said, portion and not the entire pension is good enough if they really wanted to invest in this venue of business.

There's nothing aside from their own understanding and knowledge that will stop or prevent anyone to invest to what they believe they can earn decently.

It is really indeed a matter of risks taking because when it comes to these kind of decisions on which risk taking thing is really that crucial, not all would be able to take up such risks specially when we do talk about

pension funds which is something that would really be giving out some assurance on the time that we do get old and doesnt have that work anymore.If you are aware of the risks then it would be your choice on going all in but if not then you could always choose on having some partial investment into it whether it would be playing around 20-30% or according into your risks appetite.

Not all would really be having on the same risks level or appetite on which there are ones who could be able to invest but pretty aware on whats the risks behind.Some would really be going into the opposite way.
Investment is never been safe specially on something that it is really that speculative. We cant really just put up money and just wait for us to get rich.
This isnt how this market opportunity do give.

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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
Following your point of view, those old aged people are also prone to heart attacks I can't imagine what will be the reactions of those people if they will invest their pensions to this market and encounter a big dump, if those old age people are not mentally and financially ready with that kind of situation it will be possible for them to experience a heart attack.

Thinking about a failed investment at their age, so yes, with your argument better not to proceed and just use the pension money to live your life while you are still capable to enjoy with your receive money.

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Basic rule of any investment: never invest money you can't afford to lose. this is not just with bitcoin, even the real world business that people can swear to you will work, one should never put money into an investment using money they cannot afford to lose, in cases of pensions to people they should not take a pension to put into investments unless the person knows that he has enough money to cover all expenses and always has some money left, in which case it makes sense to put the money in bitcoin in some other high risk investment

for example a person who has a pension of 1000$ per month, so this person has his own house and at the end of the month when he takes the money for 30 days of food, pays the water and electricity bill, pays the employee and is left with 200$, then this person can take 50$ and invest in bitcoin, even if he loses a few dollars something like 5$ and is left with 45$ because the price of bitcoin has dropped a lot still this person will not panic because this person is not depending on the profit of bitcoin for a living, at the end of the day good finance management is the most important thing people need to make good investments

Thinking about a failed investment at their age, so yes, with your argument better not to proceed and just use the pension money to live your life while you are still capable to enjoy with your receive money.

in most casinos people who receive pension are not very old so if they have good planning and financial management they can do very well in the cryptocurrency market, we see people aged 50 or more in this cryptocurrency market and they are successful people, so it is possible for someone pensioner who has good financial management to do well in this market

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May 08, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
I personally don't think investing on any cryptocurrency using a pension fund is a good thing. Pension fund is a type of fund that is used by a senior or a person on an old age primarily for food and for medical expenses, Food and medical expenses is just a necessity to carry on our daily lives and removing it to a person will make life extra hard. In short, the quality of life will degrade and the money that supposed to buy the necessity will just go into an uncertain investment. The rule of thumb is to invest money that you can afford to lose and pension fund is not one of those.
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May 08, 2023, 11:40:23 PM
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I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.
To be honest, it’s never safe as always. Pension funds are certainly funds used to provide for the good living for old aged people, and not to invest in a risky and highly volatile one. And to think that pensioners are prone to be carried away by their emotions, so just imagine if their investments do not work, surely that will create threat to emotional and mental health of these old aged investors. So as much as possible, they should avoid bitcoin investment and the likes.
this much is true, losing money when reaching the retirement age is not funny, no place to work, smaller chance and opportunity of earning money which simply means earning money becoming even harder than before retiring. the impact of losing pension funds will be massive, I'd doubt they aren't gonna concerned about it, just imagine if someone had invested their pension fund in the previous all time high where cryptocurrency investment was quite rampant i'm sure some have already invested, then the market losing value because some company collapsing, basically making people lose about 80% of their money and if it's pension fund, it will be really heart breaking. i couldn't imagine lack of money in retirement age.

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