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I recently noticed the possibility of clicking  on merit on a post made by myself  and I was curious to know if its possible for one to merit himself?

I haven't  seen any rule kicking  against this and since the feature is there, i want to know if its possible  to merit my post by myself and if anyone else has ever thought of this?

I really enjoy being on the forum and it seems every passing day, I'm learning  something new and please pardon me if my question doesn't seem worth it but I do really want to as there are post I feel are worth meriting but got  no merit.

"You cannot send merit to yourself"

This is the prompt you get if you try to merit yourself. Whilst the option is there, it's impossible to send merit to your own profile.

The option merit is available on all posts, irrespective of the poster.
Even as the OP, you will still be able to see it, even up to the point of adding the number of merits you want to send. But once you click on send,"
A window below will appear. Just as Upgrade00 have mentioned, you can't self-merit your post. If such an option is made possible, there will really be a lot of abuse from users.
https://i.imgur.com/IN3Ld34.png

Merits mean been particularly good at something and you are rewarded for your worthiness, if you can merit yourself it's not more a MERIT.

No self-meriting is not possible here in the forum. If it was, so many users would have been abusing it and that would also defeat the reason why the merit system was introduced in the first place.

Feel free to check out this already-existing thread about the same topic; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444611.0

You see the option however you cannot send merit to yourself. Instead of writing this post, and overthinking, maybe you should have just tried clicking it once.
How come you are a full member and not aware of this? Mind-boggling.

What will be the use of merit if you can send it to yourself lol.

If it was possible, people would've already done it a lot knowing how desperate a lot of users are with concerning to receiving merits.

Fortunately this is something that anyone would immediately know that people would try to exploit — so of course it wouldn't be made possible by Theymos(or whoever the dev is).

Has anyone suggested to theymos to remove the merit text on yourself when viewing a post. Im not sure if this will take a lot of work but to avoid confusion that meriting self is allowed might be worth it isnt it?

But this is common sense already when you read everything about merit topic.

In the past, when I first got to know the merit system, I even thought about this. But I quickly realized that sending sMerit to myself was clearly not going to work. because in the end the sMerit award is sent to us because the sender really feels our post is useful and deserves to be given Merit. And those who generally provide judgment about our posts (writers) are other people (readers). And of course this Merit system, in addition to increasing Rank, also has the goal of increasing our motivation to further improve the quality of posts so that they are more useful for every reader. So that the Merit system is also like a determinant of our eligibility to rise to a higher rank.

Lol
I've always thought of meriting myself but in the long run I never dared to try meriting myself because I didn't want to fail any law ignorantly.


I'm not sure if this is common sense as there are alot of things that seems common in the forum but I'm sorry to say but you might just end up earning  a red trust.

Exactly  but one funny thing is that you can't  merit yourself if you haven't worked hard to earn any merit,
Hence we must work to earn this merit and I was just curious seeing this option  and I never dared to merit myself and that was why I had to throw the question  to the house.

Thank you so much for this answer and I love people who sincerely  try to help answer people rather than assume and what is the need of me asking  the question here if I knew what to do?
Thank you mate for your kind response.


For real?
I Never created this post to catch any fun or cruise what so ever.
I was curious and wanted to know it's possibility and I wasn't ready to put  my account to any sort of risk especially  not for merits.

I think it is whose gonna think that meriting himself is allowed obviously its not right? Plus reading the topic on merits could let you understand how the merit works and youll realize that doing merit on himself wouldnt never be allow here. Thats why I suggested maybe a removal of merit post on someones view page might do the trick.

Will not work you can click the merit button but you can't actually send merit to yourself, and it would not make sense to merit yourself. If you are the one that is going to judge your post quality that's not going to be fair.

When receiving merits you also receive half of it that you can send to other members, so that could be a big problem as well if it's allowed since most of the members can easily abuse that not to mention sending merit can be abuse as well, since some members might have multiple accounts here in the forum.

If not now I saw the thread,I don't even know maybe I have notice that selfmerit button but if possible I think i noticed it,believe me I may have try that to see the result.and if possible someone can merit itself many members could have merited their selves, with this rate at which many  members are desperate to earn merit.

In normal senses, if post are to be judge by other forum members to be merited for the quality.that should be clear to everyone that it is not possible to send merit to ourself because we can't judge ourself post accurately. So op it is not possible to merit our post.

It is possible that this question was asked at the beginning when the merit system was added to the forum, but considering that this option cannot be abused, it does not make much sense for it to be on the admin's priority list. There are probably some other things that confuse some members of the forum, but we hope that it will all be much better one day when we have a new forum.

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The expression "work" in the context of the forum is not something we want to read because it implies that someone is here only to earn something, and not for what the forum exists for, discussions and exchange of opinions. Some "work" a lot, and yet the results are missing, so the key is still in something else, and everyone has to discover that for themselves.

Not possible.


I was not in this forum when the merit system got introduced, but with common logic, I think I have come to understand that self-meriting doesn't complete the merit cycle system because merit is supposed to go from one member to another as long as they have quality posts.

Probably a lot of people have tried it and have seen that it's not possible, so they don't bother asking or coming up with some stupid suggestion for the feature to be allowed. I have seen that my posts has the merit icon beside it, but I don't bother to even click it because, in a normal sense, I think it is not right to self-merit myself while there are some members' posts I need to appreciate with my Smerit.


You don't need to worry about this; some posts don't get merited as soon as possible; it can take some months or weeks, but if any member finds your comments meritorious or helpful to them, you will receive merit on the comments.



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even if it is allowed in the forum to merit oneself. How can someone feel secure and deserving of his post's merits when he is well aware that merits are issued for excellent posts or comments and that each account's merit history is visible to all forum members to go through at any given time. It will appear as though Mr. A merits himself on this post. Just that one action may prompt others to start keeping an eye on Mr. A's account.

People's assessment of a good post that falls within their standards that allow them to send merits is different. You already understand this.
If you feel that some posts are good and worthy of a merit, you can report them in any of the available threads and so far I've seen some of those threads being very helpful to users who make disinvited entries.

If it is possible to send merits to the user's profile itself, then what will happen is that most of the time users who have sMerit will do it every day.
I understand what you're thinking because I and other friends have had that thought.
Keep your spirits up because soon you will reach the destination of FM to Sr. Member. That seems to be what you are trying to do.
Every once in a while, think about how someone strives to reach a desired stage such as from Hero to Legendary which requires 500 merit.

It did occur to me several times in the past and I didn't even try clicking on the 'Merit' feature.

I think a line of simple coding would simply disable the Merit on every user's respective posts.

You cannot send merit to yourself that's the rule and they will not let you do this, but if there is a possibility to send merit to yourself, this is going to be unethical, its self-serving and take away the purpose of why merit is created, even giving merit to your alt account will get you negative feedback.
Let others appreciate your work, you only know how good you are if others will give you merit.

Basically Merit on this forum is designed to reward users who have made useful and quality contributions to the forum. However, users cannot give sMerit to themselves, but must be given by other users as a form of appreciation for the contribution they have made, because I think it will be funny later if I give sMerit to myself.

In this case, Merit also helps to increase the reputation and ranking of the account in the forum, so that it becomes more known and respected in the forum. In this way, the Merit system not only motivates users to create more useful posts, but also helps create more productive and positive discussions in the forums.

From the word itself (Merit) and we all know that merit is like a gift that another people know that you are worthy to be given then they will give you a reward and here in forum the Reward is Merits. Also to make it fashionable then we are not allowed to send our merits in our own post because the reason of it will abuse. And even not worthy post then we will sent a merit in order to receive a few one and that's crazy I think.
So merits is designed as a give to everyone except to ourselves in order to give dedication and motivation. And to measure the quality of our post.

Then it will not serve the purpose of merits you will just merit yourself to rank up

It doesn't have to have a rule, common sense tells us it's not right, I don't think others will think of this idea, you are just one imaginative guy to think this.


You're not alone so many of us do but it will not make us create a funny and useless post like this because we're not getting merits, just keep doing what you love doing and keep on improving, merits will come unexpectedly.

This experiment would have been so beautiful if you completed it yourself vefore coming here to ask.
Why were you afraid of completing the task you started?
You would have tried sending the merit to yourself and see if it goes through. And if it does you would now open this thread to ask if it is an offense, if it doesn't go through, you would have known that you cannot send merir to yourself and that will be all and there won't be need for this thread.

It doesn't really make sense that you started an experiment and you could not even complete it. Then you came and created a thread for it. Develop that think skin and do things without fears hence you are not cheating the forum. That would be great.

Partly right — not 100% entirely true because of the earlier bounty campaigners having the free merit airdrops. There are a few Legendary members without a single received merit outside of the airdrop and all they do is just spam bounty campaign threads.

The solution is not to send merit to yourself. The merit system isn’t that easy to manipulate. If you feel your posts are getting the merits they deserve, you can report them  here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271) or  [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg60895527#msg60895527)

It makes no sense to complain about merits because there are different functional threads created to help members below legendary to rank up. Some merit sources even accept pms to review posts, and give merits if they find the account is contributing to the forum. Your merit to activity ratio is looking good, and you have been merited several times by Fillippone, at this rate you will reach legendary on time.

What are the chances that my posts would get merited if I used the threads you listed. I haven't use the thread of LoyceV which appears to be older but I have once used that of fillippone but no single merits was give any of my forwarded posts. I was demoralised to post again.

Most times I would like to return to the good old days of members and full member rank. At those stages, any little efforts you make would be appreciated with merits. Now I rose to Hero, I don't even get attention anymore, no matter how hard I try. It is just giving me the impression that the journey to the legendary rank is near impossible.

In regards to this, that you submit a post doesn't mean it must be merited instantly, because some times it could take days, weeks or probably months, which for sure if that post is actually worth meriting, it will always get a merit for sure by Fillippone, as not once or twice have I received merit from him for threads I created months ago, which is why is always good to create valuable contents, as you stills stand the chance of being merited year's after.

Its just a matter of time mate, because for the fact that you were able to grow from Newbie to Hero member, you can definitely achieve the next target to the Legendary rank.

The odds are pretty good if you are a good poster though I have not used them but I see others getting merits from these threads. You’re a beneficiary of Ratimov’s merit thread so I think you know first hand that these threads really do help. Don’t feel down if you don’t get merits from Fillippone’s thread, that doesn’t mean you’re not a quality poster, deciding what’s a merit worthy post is a subjective thing and everyone has their own opinion on the subject.

I could say the same, it easier to get merits when you’re at a low rank. When you are hero member it is expected that you are now knowledgeable on most things and as such your response to discussions are supposed to be more sophisticated.

Are there your posts or other people posts? Well your question is a nice one. Let go straight to the main point of the answer I the question. NO you can not merit yourself and doing so is against the rules and regulations of the forum. You are to merit another user and other users to merit you. Self meriting is bad and it is not allow in the forum.
When I first enter the forum and spend about four months, I also thought of it and later remove my mind from it. Because I notice that it is bad. And I also saw it from some comment at that time.

I have always seen that option that I can merit myself but I have never tried to use it because I know that it will be a grievous crime if it works. This is because I have read that it is a crime to give merit to your alt. So if it is a crime to merit an alt that means it will be a bigger crime to merit oneself, that was why I always avoided that option. So thank you @Op for this question.

fillippone merit thread is one of the most functional merit threads in the forum. You might not have gotten your post merited because it has not gotten to your turn or the post you submitted has already received two merits and above before it got to your turn. Sometimes due to the high number of applicants, it can take up to a month or above to get to your turn. You are a good poster so I don't assume that it was your quality that made him skip your post. So just be patient it will soon get to your turn.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the self-meriting hack: this only works on desktop (Windows and Linux) and on posts that have already been merited, but if you hold down Alt+F4 just before clicking the "Send" button, then you'll bypass the "You cannot send merit to yourself" message and increase (by 1) the last merit transaction for that post. It's quite tricky to pull off (most attempts will simply close the browser, but maybe 1 in 20 attempts will trigger the bug and succeed).

https://i.postimg.cc/sjbVNrd0/Secret.gif

When you liked yourself too much but you don't want 0.5 of your sMerit. Lol.

Haven't thought of this though but I know already that this is not going to work and is not worth it because you would get half of it remaining. Doesn't make sense.

You can merit yourself, but only by creating an alt, and your action will appear in the merit history of both accounts. There are a few members who watch out for these abuses of the spirit of the forum, and such action willl almost certainly result in both accounts receiving red untrusted flags. Whilst alt accounts are allowed, it is the established practice to announce the connection, and include an attribution in the alt profile. There are several reason for registering alt accounts, and I have several. For example, I registered Kuffy to protect one of my other board sobriquets. I even registerd Flash Cunt to emulate the posting style of one of our more colourful retired members. :)

It is not possible. You can only receive merits from other forum users even though you can see +merit and can actually click it and that's the only thing possible because after you press send then the image that nwada posted is what you will see.

Possibly it popped out before or in the beginning but since its not been removed then I guess its really not a priority. So if ever someone ask again about self meriting then the best way is to explain to him properly about this topic and or let him learn by reading such topic like this. Im just wondering if thats possible to lessen questions regarding the idea.

This is incorrect, you will not get negative feedback only for send merit to your alt account because theymos have been stated below. It's mean if DT member leave you a negative feedback, that's user can be kicked out from DT system and their feedback will not shown in trusted feedback. Technically if he not delete his feedback, you still had negative feedback, but it's not important since it will not ruin your reputation.

Absolutely no one merits himself currently in this form, because merit is just like a medal or badge of appreciation from other members for helping others or providing knowledge to them. But when it comes to you everyone will be considered him eligible for self-meriting because in Their view they are the best, so everyone who has merit will grow quickly through self-meriting while those who don't will remain low. So such kind of thing will ruined the merit system and environment of this forum.

At first while would you think of meriting yourself at the first place, because if your post seems worthy by your self and not worthy to other then I don't think that post is worthy enough to be merited since non see's them to be quality enough.
I believe some users already responded to your question so no need going further. And I really appreciate the admins for restricting and limiting users from that options otherwise something else would have happened.


The forum is against this by meriting alt account I think both account will be penalized and get tagged, so anyone caught doing that will be tagged.

At first we all know it is impossible and can never happen here that one merits themselves.  If that should happen then of what  use will the merit system be. This merit rewards system OP is talking about is just like the case of one  being a judge in their own case which is not possible and I don't think it would ever be.

You can not be a judge in your own case  OP.

Wow
Mate I just want to correct the impression  that no post is a waste and to be frank with you, it is really demoralizing  trashing my sincerity.
If you've gone through my post very well, you'll  understand  that I've always seen this feature but never dared to click on it, reason being that I didn't want to ignorantly flaunt any rule and within  me I never thought it was possible but why that feature?
The forum has been so old not to clear such feature, so you wouldn't  have to call my post useless 😒

I also read the responses of other users and I even noticed that some persons already tried meriting  themselves but couldn't which simply means that I'm not alone on this but I was too careful not to make any silly mistake because I'm trying to check through a feature.


Yeah you're right mate, we can't be a judge in our cases but I was curious to knowing  the possibility and since the forum is already old with alot very smart persons in here, I wasn't expecting  anything especially regarding merits which determines the rank growth of a user to have any error and a few line of coding would have gotten this fixed.

That's what I was about to write--it's never been possible, and I'm pretty sure Theymos thought of what kinds of abuse would be tried by idiots trying to rank themselves up, and being able to give your own posts merit would be the prime way to do that.

Can you imagine if that were possible?  It's bad enough that there have been so many members caught sending merits to alt accounts or friends or for some sort of remuneration; if self-meriting were possible, we might as well not even have the system as it'd be too broken to be effective.

OP, if you've got your question answered you might want to consider locking this thread. 

When I see the thread, I laughed. I don't know what op was thinking to create this thread or was he or she planning to  merit her or his posts?. If self meriting was allowed merit sources would have been the highest merited users in the forum. Since when I came to the forum I have not seen a users merited him or herself. According to The Sceptical Chymist the abused would something  else.

I believed answers have been given. Since the question is very straight forward question and many users have answered the question so the Op close the thread now.

I could imagine how messy and disastrous it could have been here on this platform if that feature was functional but thanks to Theymos who foresaw it and did not put such option into function otherwise it would have turned out to be something else. So OP in the sense that we can give others merit, it would be very much better we can not give ourselves merits because I believe all humans are rational beings so therefore would want to at all cost make sure they satisfy themselves with the self merits rewards system if it were possible but the reverse is the case.

Yeah I got my question and curiosity answered and I will be locking  the thread right away and I want to appreciate  all those who took their time to answer to my curiosity with kind words  and also those who felt I was foolish with my question,  your words are are truly also accepted and appreciated as well.