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Title: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Sim_card on May 12, 2023, 05:21:04 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Cantsay on May 12, 2023, 05:24:18 PM
AFAIK, I have not seen anyone being banned because they used image from a site without reference but I have seen those that copied contents (words) from image and posted them here in Bitcointalk (not as an image but in words) get banned.

Op, to be on a safer side it would be better for you to just add the source link underneath the image that way you won't have to worry about getting banned.

Anything you know or think will get your account into trouble just try to avoid it and in this case "add the source link" it's not going to take you more than 3 minutes to copy and paste the link.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Nwada001 on May 12, 2023, 05:34:19 PM
Every original author must be given credit for his or her work; that's just what the forum wants. Let what's yours be yours. If you are using someone else's work, always give credit to the original creator, be it an image or text.

AI-generated text is not considered plagiarism, but it's not encouraged in the forum. What comes out of a human brain and that of a machine are not the same ideas. AI-generated text can easily be identified and, at the same time, can be off-point in most cases.

In this forum, information is considered very useful, and I myself consider it the best place to source original data based on human experience. People talk from experience, ask questions where necessary, and all this is done in their heads. Using AI is like the user wanting to use a shortcut to our smart forum, trying to tell the forum that they are smart, but they are actually not the brain behind their created content.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Hatchy on May 12, 2023, 05:46:59 PM
Be it pictures, contents or write ups, what ever you are copying from any other source or user that isn't actually owned or referenced by you, is termed plagarism.

Op most people don't get banned just from posting images because these images sometimes don't have a direct ownership. As much as we are concerned, images can be generated using Ai, so no body literally own such images. There are lots of images across the internet without due ownership so anyone can make reference using them.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.

Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133485.0)


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 12, 2023, 06:07:14 PM
In a simple understanding, plagiarism is the act of stealing another author's content and converting it to your own without referencing the real owner, and that also includes both pictures and articles. But in this forum, article plagerism is really taken very seriously than image. That doesn't mean that posting an image that is not yours is not also considered plagiarism. If you have to post an image that is not yours, it's good that you add the source link to the image. There is now this common trend among some users who are using AI-generated content in the forum. It is not as if those contents are plagerized, but the forum is not really in support of Chat GBT AI-generated content, and at the moment no decision has yet been made by my moderators and theymos.

For "AI content generator" discussion threads, you can read:

AI-generated post discussion thread: how to identify & report (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448111.msg62060187#msg62060187)
bitcointalk forum vs OpenAI - ChatGPT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5426875.msg61411526#msg61411526)


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on May 12, 2023, 06:17:18 PM
It's actually true.
If anyone takes an information from the net/ elsewhere/the forum and/or otherwise, Which is not an their original piece of information, it's termed as plagiarism and the penalty is a perma- ban..(depending on the considerations from 'em mods)

No one has been banned for not adding a source link to a picture gotten elsewhere.... ofcourse, anyone would detect where the pictures really belong if they want to...but it's advisable to always add a source link at the end of every information that's not yours.

You won't be banned for making AI generated Posts... atleast for the fact that Theymos wants to make the forum as free as possible; for sure, anyone would easily detect an AI generated post and AFAIK, it's termed "shit posting" as the informations don't make requal sense.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on May 12, 2023, 06:59:52 PM
Firstly this isn't a not book you must not affix lines after ending every sentence there is actually no need for that.

Also plagiarism has always been a very simple case and that's when you get any content that isn't yours you make sure to put in where you sourced it.

But with artificial intelligence although I am not fully grasped with how it works but I think I have seen statement that one can actually plagiarise and get undetected but what would be your personal gain doing so, fooling yourself is the worse thing anyone can do because you would never get the knowledge you plagiarized.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: un_rank on May 12, 2023, 07:12:26 PM
If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
Providing a link is the ideal thing to do, but to avoid plagiarism you must just not pass off someone else's work as your own. This can be avoided by using quotations to indicate that the content belongs to someone else, you can apply any other means but just make it clear in your post that the text does not belong to you.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.
I instinctively assume a posted image was not created by the user except they male it perfectly clear that it is theirs. There is no clear line for image plagiarism, they are reused so many times by so many people it becomes almost impossible to find the original source.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
AI generated post use information available online but does not copy any exact content, this is not plagiarism.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Hyphen(-) on May 12, 2023, 07:29:46 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

Not only providing the link, you are not advised to copy what you see direct and paste it here just because you have the link. You can get the entire idea from the content and you can as well quote the content and provide the reference link to avoid been banned in the forum.

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

It is advisable to provide the source link for the image for easy access of the exact information you are sharing here so that the information will be verified.


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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
A I can give you something unique, although it is not advisable, but using some plagiarism checkers to confirm the information will be better in order to be safe.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: SatoPrincess on May 12, 2023, 07:41:50 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

That’s right, copy and paste without referencing the original author is against the forum rules and the punishment is a permanent ban. I have seen cases concerning plagiarized images in the past, but the moderators handle these matters on a case-by-case basis.


Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
You do not need to post AI generated content here, just be yourself. Explore the forum and become family with the different boards. Increase your knowledge of bitcoin and crypto related discussions, you will find it easy to engage in discussions. Your original posts can earn you merit and grow your rank.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Odusko on May 12, 2023, 07:44:30 PM
Providing a link to both text and images is very essential in other to give credit to the source of the content you are posting here, but the images are viewed with less penalty or even zero penalties but make sure not to claim ownership of another person's work simply because images are not punishable here make sure to include the link at all time, even if not to avoid punishment,  it will help your readers to get a better picture of the whole story.

Direct copy and pest text without link is 100% plagiarism and punishable under forum rules.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: kamvreto on May 12, 2023, 07:59:31 PM
Including all sources in text or images is fine, it can be proof that you got the information from the internet.
what's not really allowed is creating posts with AI or responding to questions with AI. it is strictly prohibited at this time. although it is not detected as plagiarism, but it is the result of AI bots. This forum is not made for bots but for humans to interact with each other.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Igebotz on May 12, 2023, 08:31:44 PM
I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

If posting a Google image or a random image from the internet without citing the original work was a problem or appeared to be plagiarism on the forum, everyone would have been banned by now because most of us have uploaded an image without stating the source, it only becomes a problem on the forum when someone steals an art to participate in an art contest and claims it as original work. Image plagiarism is mostly enforced in academic works, forums and social media do not follow this norm.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: aseev on May 12, 2023, 08:49:36 PM
Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?

Execution by guillotine.




Plagiarism and the use of someone's intellectual property are two different things.

Pla·gia·rism - the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

Posting someone's images is a use of intellectual property without permission. Providing a link to the source of the image won't necessarily make it acceptable and can be considered a violation or infringement of the owner's rights to that work.

It is unlikely you will be banned for posting someone's else image.

However, the admins are currently discussing the possibility of imposing a ban on posts created by artificial intelligence - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448111.msg


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: tabas on May 12, 2023, 09:12:57 PM
Or much better to be genuine in discussions and avoid the usage of those AIs just for you to join discussions. You can practice yourself without using such because if you develop and has leaned on it for most of the time, it's gonna be a hard thing for you because you'll be reliant on it.
There's proper usage on it but not on these discussions. It's okay if you're not good at something when you're about to join discussions, thus, it's fine to ask questions to know the answers legitimately. It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: royalfestus on May 12, 2023, 09:21:47 PM
Plagiarism is a universal issue, although the forum tends to be lenient on image referencing and does not show preferential treatment to any member. Nevertheless, incorporating picture references is a commendable writing practice. In the past, I have come across several threads on the forum that tackle this topic.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Odusko on May 12, 2023, 09:29:39 PM

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
Originally the forum is developed to accommodate only human users, but we can deny the possible existence of AI bots, even though the forum doesn't have rules specifically designed for AI usage but already forum members and moderators are already kicking against its usage and you can see that from the first page of some signature campaign was the manager is mentioned that the campaign is run with an anty AI detector and any participant that got caught from using and posting AI-generated text will be kicked out of the campaign and get a possible punishment some members got banned for that at some point so avoid it in all sense.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: tvplus006 on May 12, 2023, 09:30:56 PM
...I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism...

The term plagiarism implies not only that you published someone else's message, but also passed it off as your own. Thus, you have appropriated the author's right to the text, passing it off as your own. Thus, if you publish someone else's image, passing it off as your own, then it will definitely be plagiarism.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: BitDane on May 12, 2023, 10:03:10 PM
The forum moderators is more lenient when it comes to images.  So I do not think we have to worry about being banned when we use images and do not give link to its source.  But for ones piece of mind, why not put the link when it is already available the first time you see the image and use it.

It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.

I think it is always better to share a content of an article in providing proof and support to the topic being discussed than just mere personal idea which often got some errors.  Obviously we need to provide links to those articles to avoid plagiarism to avoid breaking the rules of the forum.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on May 12, 2023, 10:12:18 PM
Plagiarism is when you present stolen text as your own. Same with AI - if you try to pass it as your own post, you will get banned. If you make it clear that it's not your own post by putting it in a quote, you will be fine. As for pictures, generally people don't assume that the poster is the author, so you will be fine by leaving them unattributed. But still it can be plagiarism if you try to intentionally pass it as your own, for example if you enter a creative competition.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Zaguru12 on May 12, 2023, 10:17:50 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
This is something that even in schools it is mostly frowned at, taking credit because for someone’s else work is just not good. Outside the forum it’s self once a thing is copy then it is better to reference the original. In the forum link is just like that reference

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.
Just like other members say it is rare to see one been banned for posting an image gotten from a random link online and portraying it as us. Although why I think the rules is like that is because most of these images are watermarked. And watermark is just the same thing as putting reference on it.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
AI generated posts are yet to be sanctioned as far as I know, but I feel like those that do it are easily caught with plagiarized posts. Even if the moderators do not ban AI posts, a member that persists will definitely be tagged by members which make it clear to other members the kind of threads or comments such user posts

General advice post a link to everything that is not yours this will save you from unnecessary confusion. Focus on creating your own contents because even those that post with references always without putting up their idea are regarded as spammers


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Ever-young on May 12, 2023, 11:20:17 PM
Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133485.0)

I can't fine anywhere in the forum rules either official or unofficial rules of the forum where they state that the use of AI is prohibited.. it's just highly discouraged by the forum members just as buying of account and other activities which users ordinarily should not wait for anyone to tell them that this kind of action is not going to help the forum in anyway and as such that user should disengage from them.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: ultrloa on May 12, 2023, 11:35:19 PM
Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133485.0)

I can't fine anywhere in the forum rules either official or unofficial rules of the forum where they state that the use of AI is prohibited.. it's just highly discouraged by the forum members just as buying of account and other activities which users ordinarily should not wait for anyone to tell them that this kind of action is not going to help the forum in anyway and as such that user should disengage from them.

No rules applied yet but if you know your taking advantage on situation which is not fair to everyone then its same as cheating. Using AI doesn't make all of those things organic that's why this is been discourage well by many people so much better do all your task fairly so that you will be out of risk to get a problem with other users.

Its really healthy for forum to have organic discussions rather than AI generated contents where this is totally not good sight to see.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: qwertyup23 on May 12, 2023, 11:41:07 PM
Including all sources in text or images is fine, it can be proof that you got the information from the internet.
what's not really allowed is creating posts with AI or responding to questions with AI. it is strictly prohibited at this time. although it is not detected as plagiarism, but it is the result of AI bots. This forum is not made for bots but for humans to interact with each other.

Imagine if this forum was taken over by AI-generated replies. This will definitely remove the interaction between persons as AIs would be the one discussing among themselves about a certain topic.

As regards with plagiarism, I do recommend that if you are going to post any picture that is taken online, add the reference below for safety and security. In addition, if you are also going to use words taken from the internet, I suggest putting the text in a
Code:
code -format for easier reference and visual impact on the reader.



Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: UchihaSarada on May 13, 2023, 02:25:19 AM
[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037514.0)
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133485.0)
Plagiarism as a result of cultural differences (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096849.0)
Plagiarsism QA topics. I don't think new topics about plagiarism are necessary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5358322.0)


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: tabas on May 13, 2023, 06:30:32 AM
It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.

I think it is always better to share a content of an article in providing proof and support to the topic being discussed than just mere personal idea which often got some errors.  Obviously we need to provide links to those articles to avoid plagiarism to avoid breaking the rules of the forum.
Yes, that's ethical and it's a courtesy and paying respect to the owner of those snippets that you'll get or an article that you want to share in the forum.
And if someone forgets to do that, they'll be judged and gets a ban from the forum mods and there's no excuse with that because even before, it's been said a bannable offense and everyone have to remember that rule of law as it's an official one. Newbies that are exploring the forum should also get to know that and read first the rules that's set for everyone so that they'll be guided. Plus, all of those links and guides shared on this thread concerning the topic are already here for OPs guidance.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 13, 2023, 06:51:47 AM
Based on my experience, what I see is this: if you see that a post is written using AI and then submit it to the moderators for review, and they agree with you by deleting this post, the user will receive a temporary ban. You must be sure that the post was written by AI. You can compare the recent actions of the user with an unexpected change in posting, i.e., suddenly the account began to write competent and large posts. In this case, there may be a temporary ban.
In all other cases, feel free to send reports to the moderators; they will draw their own conclusions and make further decisions.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: yudi09 on May 13, 2023, 07:41:10 AM
-snip-

I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
You don't have to paste it 100% into your post.
You can take ideas from sources you meet into posts. Simply indicate that the information you get comes from the source you meet.
Plagiarism is something that is forbidden to do and is a serious violation.
If we are still normal and still able to think, then we can still make posts without having to copy and paste someone else's.

When it comes to AI posts, our ideas are more creative than machines. Only people who are lazy in thinking do not find ideas to do.
There are so many ideas that will be born if we get used to using the strengths that are in us because humans are given a mind to think and that is what distinguishes us from other creatures.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Adbitco on May 13, 2023, 08:59:22 AM
I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

If the content you copied carries the same image and you provided the content link at the bottom of the post, there is no way you will get ban for image because they are from same content. Sometimes you may decides to include the quote symbol then apply your image inside of it, if the content is originally yours and differents from images then there's no ban. You can only get ban for not doing those things.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.

As far as i know, the forum mods and admins are trying their best to make sure they eliminate the rate of AI posting here, it's a spam and may likely results from being ban. Those words are too generic which you may not differentiate between real users and AI posters, it's encouraging for everyone to strive their best in creating quality post than using a contents generated tools.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 13, 2023, 09:39:05 AM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
I am not an expert here but I will honestly answer to your queries on my experience on this platform.

Yes, if you do plagiarize, you will be banned permanently, and if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.
Code:
[quote]Your text here[/quote]
and do not forget to put the source link. Because if you are copying something then you have to declare that you are quoting it and have to provide a source link too.

You can check the following posts where OPs have copied and pasted whole articles from the website and didn't get struck for plagiarism.
  • Bittrex Files for Bankruptcy in Delaware (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452148.msg62220011#msg62220011)
  • UK Charity Commission - Accept the crypto donations but keep clean records! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450354.msg62156589#msg62156589)
i have personally used this method sometimes and didn't get penalized for plagiarism so i think that's safe.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism
TBH, i have seen many people who have shared pictures from the internet and didn't share the source link with it, but i have observed that most of the members do share the source link to the image, and its the best practice so i think putting a link to the image will not cost you a lot so why not putting it. And it will also help readers to redirect to its source for confirmation, and it will save time too.
Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
AI, is highly banned on this platform there had started many topics and threads on this topic (AI) and many accounts have been banned from the origin of ChatGPT. If you copy from AI content generators and pasted it here it will be considered as plagiarism and you will be banned without any warnings. So, stay away from it, but i think at least you could use it for other purposes like to learn something not to just copy and paste text from there to here to earn trust and respect.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: UchihaSarada on May 13, 2023, 12:41:26 PM
if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.
Code:
[quote]Your text here[/quote]
and do not forget to put the source link. Because if you are copying something then you have to declare that you are quoting it and have to provide a source link too.

You can add source link and don't have to use code block. A source link is enough.

I think a quote block is better because it can help readers to know what is your own content and what you use from other sources (in quote blocks). There are some ways to use quote block.

If you don't know the source link, you can use a quote block without source link
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if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

If you know the source link, you can use it with the link
if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

Quote from: Faisal2202
if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

Code:
1.
[quote author=Faisal2202 link=topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413 date=1683970745]

2.
[quote author=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413]

3.
[quote="[url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413]Faisal2202[/url]"]

A guide to quoting posts in locked topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204486.0).





Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on May 13, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

OP, for those of you who want to last a long time, if you want to share information you get from the internet, then include the source. it will be safer for you.
You must have also read some of the threads shared by others on the forums. how they present information that is their own or share information they get from the internet. you can copy how other members make a decent thread. when you believe that the information is original from you, you don't need to worry about the forum's ban on plagiarism.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: demonica on May 13, 2023, 02:55:40 PM
Not just here in the forum but everywhere, plagiarism is a big issue. So if you want to share some knowledge or ideas that are from others, always share the link. If you're not sure where you got the idea, you can mention it in your post that you saw it from someone or anything similar to that. You can also try looking for it on the Internet first. As long as you don't claim it as your own, then it's fine. But adding a source will make it more reliable so others can also assess the information you'll share.

Using an AI-generated post isn't also great as well since it's not your own and you didn't come up with that idea or opinion. Just look at it, what's the point of replying and posting if everything is AI-generated right?


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: aysg76 on May 13, 2023, 03:27:55 PM
1) If you are using some other authors content then you must mention him to give credit and you can provide source link for that or write it in quote to avoid violating the rules.

2) This has been discussed before also if you search for the thread and I also don't think that if you are using someone else image it doesn't come under plagiarism.There are lot of members including me also using the image from third party sources without providing the link.

3) If you are directly using the same AI generated posts then according to me it's under plagiarism because you have not contributed something to it so what are you showing it to others? So for me it's violation of the rules.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Assface16678 on May 13, 2023, 04:16:15 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
For me, i think A.I generated is plaigarism because like chatgpt i think that a.i site is getting sources each site in google so it's illegal to use chat gpt in this forum and you will get banned by using this. You guys who using ChatGPT and thinking that you're helping, no you're not because thats not your own words and also you're not sincere helping other people so the people who uses a.i site should be ban in this forum !


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Eternad on May 13, 2023, 04:25:19 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.


First of all you should learn what’s the real definition of plagiarism to easily grasp your confusion. Plagiarism is using someone content in a way that owning it without the source.

Posting a random picture from the internet for the sake of discussion will not gonna plagiarized you unless you are claiming the ownership of it. An image of data on the other should be backed up by source to verify the validity of your content.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.

It’s not plagiarism since it’s from a tool that collects data on all available information in the internet. ChatGPT just do the lazy job for you to do research. Remember chatGPT is not human and a tool intended to provide info. So copying it’s content is not plagiarism since that it’s purpose.




FYI, is very strict on plagiarism if you are blatantly owning someone content without giving credits. You can use any resources that you want but make sure to provide source.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Godlovesyou on May 13, 2023, 05:03:59 PM
Is very important to acknowledge authors and article writers even in academic world is a serious offense if you failed to give the credit to the original books authors. I think the forum is using it to strengthen the forum usage and recommendations which has help the forum to maintain a healthy rules and regulations especially if you're purpose of joining the forum is quite significant.

But there is something I want to point out here using this medium, almost the banned accounts hardly come back to the forum probably they don't have access to explains what happen or why they should be given another chance despite the email provided, it seem null and void email without solution. We are all humans binds to make mistake let the banned accounts give chance to express what happen.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: ImThour on May 13, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
Pro Tip: If you want to paste something here in your thread or post, make sure to add it under the quote and then provide the source of the information just below. That way you will save your arse from getting banned and still provide your meaningful contribution on the forum.

Also, AI-based texts are not allowed on the forum. Do not prefer ChatGPT to make you 500 words post.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: kamvreto on May 13, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
Imagine if this forum was taken over by AI-generated replies. This will definitely remove the interaction between persons as AIs would be the one discussing among themselves about a certain topic.

It would be the apocalypse for the forum, Bot vs Bot arguments. But AI bot arguments will also be easier to detect because it does not give a good Opinion and all are only based on existing data (not new thoughts). every definition explained is too long and cannot be to the point.
after all, why use AI bots to just comment or argue in the forum? it is only done by people who are lazy to think.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Peanutswar on May 26, 2023, 04:04:33 PM
Currently never seen a person get banned due to posting images, still we prefer to put the references so the people get caught up with the recent conversation and at the same time know if the information given are reliable or not. It is not too hard to provide credit to the sources you are using if you make research we know how does it important your content which is the related literature here in our community we want information open for everyone and we can check at the same time by providing the links. I used the quote and link feature and uploading the image makes sure it's not too enlarge which makes it annoying upon checking.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: ShowOff on May 26, 2023, 05:06:30 PM
During the celebration; 10th anniversary art contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.0) there are some users who plagiarize random other people's image from the internet and post them on the app as their own. This is plagiarism because they use other people's work for personal financial gain but I'm not sure if some of the plagiarizing users have been banned.

But then I found this from theymos post:


- If people are stealing artwork (ie. not just using stock images, but true plagiarism), leave them negative trust.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: nakamura12 on May 26, 2023, 08:05:27 PM
To be honest, everything you share or posted that isn't yours or a work from someone else is plagiarism. If you want to stay in this forum for long then you should put a reference link to where you got it even if it's an image sharing something. I think it would be the first time someone will get banned if a person is posting an image that isn't his own work but shared it as his own work then it's already an act of plagiarism. It's in the forum rules that plagiarism is not allowed or frown upon doing so. I recommend providing a reference link to where that work came from either an image or a text just to be safe.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on May 28, 2023, 12:49:27 PM
Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?

A rule is a rule, like they said, I mean the higher ranked members of this noble forum, they said you shouldn't do this or that and you still went ahead to do what's against the rules and regulations of the forum the punishment won't change anything.
So to me, like you already know, plagiarism and the use of AI are wrong and you still go ahead to do it I feel the charges will still be punishment (doesn't matter the kind of punishment) that would cost you. Is best you avoid being in the bad book. All we know is that if you involve yourself in any of those two (plagiarism and use of AI) and found guilty, you'd be punished.

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I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.

Hehehe😂, when you say "so that you can last long here", is it that you're planning on breaking the rules and regulations in this forum? You only last longer if you do the right thing which you already know, but if your intentions ain't good like the use of AI to spice up your post then you know how's going to end.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: leonair on May 28, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

Plagiarism means stealing information. when someone copies the same text without permission or giving credit to the owner of the original post. then it is considered plagiarism. this forum does not condone plagiarism. so your account may be banned due to this. So if you need to copy someone's post then you must add the source link to the post or quote the original post.

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

You may not repost a picture once posted to this forum without the permission of the original poster. this cannot be the work of any professional person. for this, your account can be red tagged

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
AI generated posts are not considered plagiarism. but AI posts don't support forums. and no manager does AI post count for a signature campaign too. so avoid posting AI generated posts it may also cause your account issues.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Eureka_07 on May 28, 2023, 01:29:54 PM
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I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
If you want to not get banned here, then make sure that all of your submitted posts are originally from you. Do not copy paste other people's work. Use your own wit. It can also be applied to images, artworks, and other materials that has their rightful owners.
The thing is, if you want to use those works, then cite/credit them properly. If you do not know who the owner is/are, then just use the "anonymous" term or similar.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: KingsDen on May 28, 2023, 01:32:33 PM

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.

If you really want to last long in this community, all you have to do is to avoid anything that looks like cheating. Anything that is not originally from you, you have to reference it.
If you are in doubt that a picture that was not created by you is posted here that will lead to plagiarism, why not reference the picture or at least mention that it is not yours.

AI generated posts are not encouraged in this forum. If you get any post from AI, mention it that the post is AI generated, I think you will be safe.
Even if you copy a text from internet or from another user and you did not remember to put it in a quote but if you by your text express that the text is copied from someone else. I am not sure that no moderator will ban you. So the idea is always make it known that you are not the original creator when you are not the original creator.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: robelneo on May 28, 2023, 01:55:07 PM
This is a discussion forum and there are always references to what we are discussing to get our points across and to clearly explain our points of view, we should know how to give attributes or references when we're getting something from other platforms.

No admins of any platforms will allow plagiarism to be posted on their platforms, because their platform will be reported and worse taken down, so banning one who posted plagiarism is part of the rules of the owner of the platform.

Members should understand that there are rules and ethics that should be followed so they can continue to have a good standing on the platform where they are active.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: acroman08 on May 28, 2023, 08:19:05 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
while it's true that users who get caught plagiarising a content do get banned, lately it seems like staffs became more lenient on giving an outright ban if someone is caught plagiarising content.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.
I haven't really seen anyone get banned from posting an image without a source but I have seen users get negatively tagged for using an image that isn't theirs to join a contest that is being run here in the forum.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
I don't think the punishment is the same as plagiarism as I have not read someone getting banned for copying-pasting AI content.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: macson on May 28, 2023, 09:23:51 PM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
actually it doesn't matter if you post other people's pictures including AI generators in this forum (just visit the WO thread, there are lots of other people's pictures scattered about) as long as you don't register it in contests with prizes because it's really a prohibited act.  Plagiarism is likened to an act of theft because it relates to other people's intellectual property, so don't carelessly post other people's work (writing or pictures) in this forum.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Sim_card on May 28, 2023, 10:46:11 PM
I feel relieved from all your comments and contributions on differentiating between both for me,I now understand everything that you all explained. It is true to get your own work done and not copying someone else's work without reference to that person,it means that you are cheating in disguise. I will do my best to keep all rules and regulations here to stay clean and also have good reputation in the forum in order for me to grow like every other forum members.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on May 28, 2023, 11:01:28 PM
Plagiarism is a very big crime in the forum, because what from needs is your personal ideas not to paraphrase or plagiarised someone's articles, I understand that forum is a place whereby your opinion is needed, and your opinion should be a cogent one, I believe that in forum you most know what's obtainable before you present or render your own suggestions to the public, in the aspect of image, when you extract images from somewhere I believe that you have to include the source of the image except the image of your work you derived by your self. So it's good to isolate referencing another person work as an author of the work with claims, so when you copy attached the reference to avoid complications or forum ban from the moderators


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: DVlog on July 29, 2023, 09:13:42 AM
I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.
For me, i think A.I generated is plaigarism because like chatgpt i think that a.i site is getting sources each site in google so it's illegal to use chat gpt in this forum and you will get banned by using this. You guys who using ChatGPT and thinking that you're helping, no you're not because thats not your own words and also you're not sincere helping other people so the people who uses a.i site should be ban in this forum !

Do we have any direct guideline of how to use chat gpt in the forum is if its totally illegal to use in this forum? Chat Gpt can be used to find data and source faster. You just needs to verify those data before using it. But my question is there any specific rules about chat GPT into these forum?


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: UchihaSarada on July 29, 2023, 09:41:51 AM
Plagiarism is a very big crime in the forum
It is not tolerated in tue forum but it is not a crime. Crime is too serious and Plagiarism is not a kind of serious crime.

You plagiarised and your posts are reported, you consequently will be banned.
33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]

Do we have any direct guideline of how to use chat gpt in the forum is if its totally illegal to use in this forum? Chat Gpt can be used to find data and source faster. You just needs to verify those data before using it. But my question is there any specific rules about chat GPT into these forum?
Rules are enough. You need source links to not be banned.

If you use content from ChatGPT but don't verify its quality, your posts will be deleted or moved to Offtopic.
Using content from ChatGPT is to get posts, and I can not feel sympathetic with those posters who are lazy and can not contribute good posts to help forum members.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: BD Crypto on July 29, 2023, 10:24:08 AM
Plagiarism is a very big crime in the forum
It is not tolerated in tue forum but it is not a crime. Crime is too serious and Plagiarism is not a kind of serious crime.
We have to know about the actual meaning of Crime. It means breaking a law or rules which results punishment. So in this forum we also have some particular rules that should be followed by everyone. So if you break it then you will be punished and it's obviously a crime and punishable but not like a big Crime like breaking our country rules. They are totally different but it's also a crime in this forum. That's my opinion.

Do we have any direct guideline of how to use chat gpt in the forum is if its totally illegal to use in this forum? Chat Gpt can be used to find data and source faster. You just needs to verify those data before using it. But my question is there any specific rules about chat GPT into these forum?
I don't think any specific rules is required about ChatGpt for using in forum. Because there are already complete guidelines for the forum like you can't post something which isn't written by you or can't copy someone. When you use ChatGpt to post that is not written by a human or you and have a huge chance not to provide correct answes. You may use it to find data or source faster as like using Google. But you should verify before posting and mention in a quote for sharing data or sources or share resource link.

To know more disadvantages using of ChatGpt you may check here which I have collected from a reply of DdmrDdmr

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This is a temporary policy intended to slow down the influx of answers and other content created with ChatGPT. What the final policy will be regarding the use of this and other similar tools is something that will need to be discussed with Stack Overflow staff and, quite likely, here on Meta Stack Overflow.
Overall, because the average rate of getting correct answers from ChatGPT is too low, the posting of answers created by ChatGPT is substantially harmful to the site and to users who are asking or looking for correct answers.

The primary problem is that while the answers which ChatGPT produces have a high rate of being incorrect, they typically look like they might be good and the answers are very easy to produce. There are also many people trying out ChatGPT to create answers, without the expertise or willingness to verify that the answer is correct prior to posting. Because such answers are so easy to produce, a large number of people are posting a lot of answers. The volume of these answers (thousands) and the fact that the answers often require a detailed read by someone with at least some subject matter expertise in order to determine that the answer is actually bad has effectively swamped our volunteer-based quality curation infrastructure.
As such, we need to reduce the volume of these posts and we need to be able to deal with the ones which are posted quickly, which means dealing with users, rather than individual posts. So, for now, the use of ChatGPT to create posts here on Stack Overflow is not permitted. If a user is believed to have used ChatGPT after this temporary policy is posted, sanctions will be imposed to prevent users from continuing to post such content, even if the posts would otherwise be acceptable.

While the above text focuses on answers, because that's where we're experiencing the largest volume of such content, the ban applies to all content on Stack Overflow, except each user's profile content (e.g. your "About me" text).
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Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 30, 2023, 07:39:15 AM
Plagiarism is a very big crime in the forum
It is not tolerated in tue forum but it is not a crime. Crime is too serious and Plagiarism is not a kind of serious crime.

You plagiarised and your posts are reported, you consequently will be banned.

Crime is a commitment of someone either intentionally and unintentionally, so anything that make you to get banned in the forum is a crime,  I don't know what you understand by a crime and how you define your own crime, because I believe that without abiding on the rules and regulations of the forum we are automatically or basically on crime of the that can result out many things, some people has be ban on the forum in the respect of committing plagiarism and they later get unban depending the mistakes of the person, theirs is some plagiarism that the mod can be consider unintentional and when numerous members solicits on behalf of the user it can get unban, but if the commitment is obvious in which everyone have detect that the gravity of your plagiarism is intentional it will remain unban because the user have disobeyed the rules and regulations of the forum. That is while its called crime because you disobeyed the rules. When someone first registered in community and the link that will given to person by other members is to read the rules and regulations of forum.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: puloweh555 on July 30, 2023, 09:48:33 AM
Plagiarism is simple. If we post ideas or thoughts that come from other people, without any development or transformation of the original idea or thought, and we wrap it up as if the idea or thought came from ourselves, it is plagiarism. This is what needs to be avoided from this forum if you want to survive in this forum for a long time, even if citing news or information must state the source.

Everything you ask is banned on this forum, so you should be careful when posting. Sometimes we pursue quality posts in the wrong way, even though the quality of posts is the result of our own thoughts, not from other people. If something as basic as this cannot be understood, it is only right that our credibility as members here is in doubt and the ban is well deserved.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: Russlenat on July 30, 2023, 06:11:27 PM
To be honest, everything you share or posted that isn't yours or a work from someone else is plagiarism. If you want to stay in this forum for long then you should put a reference link to where you got it even if it's an image sharing something. I think it would be the first time someone will get banned if a person is posting an image that isn't his own work but shared it as his own work then it's already an act of plagiarism. It's in the forum rules that plagiarism is not allowed or frown upon doing so. I recommend providing a reference link to where that work came from either an image or a text just to be safe.
Plagiarism is stealing someone’s work or originality with the intention of owning it like your own. That is a very big offense in the forum and anyone that is caught doing that will be subject for banning permanently.

However, if you copy some lines or phrases or even images and provide reference link in the end, then there’s nothing to worry about as it certainly not fall on plagiarism anymore. But just a simple advice, learn to have your own work or originality. Make your own content, that’s the reason why you need to be knowledgeable on every topic so that you can express everything you need to say without copyrighting from someone else’s work.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: nakamura12 on July 30, 2023, 06:26:36 PM
However, if you copy some lines or phrases or even images and provide reference link in the end, then there’s nothing to worry about as it certainly not fall on plagiarism anymore. But just a simple advice, learn to have your own work or originality. Make your own content, that’s the reason why you need to be knowledgeable on every topic so that you can express everything you need to say without copyrighting from someone else’s work.
That is correct but if you didn't put any reference link or crediting the owner then it is still a plagiarism although a different type of plagiarism called paraphrasing. In this forum, it is still a plagiarism even if the work or idea that you are posting is your own work which is called self-plagiarism which means submitting your own work as your own work. This happened on the forum where a forum member have two accounts which posted the same post although the owner is the same but the other account is banned for plagiarism even though the owner of the account admitted that he owned the banned account. Hope that OP will learn what you are explaining about plagiarism.


Title: Re: Which of this is plagiarism ?
Post by: letteredhub on July 30, 2023, 11:30:38 PM
Let always give credit to whatever credit is due be it words or image if we are not the original owners or author.. For an image putting the source link underneath it  as you would so for copied words won't hurt you so why not quietly do it to avoid drama. If for any reason you can get a link to it, you can make it obvious in words indicating that the image isn't your original work that way people would be clarified while reading your post.

 Let's strive together to prevent plagiarism in the forum in whatever form for only by this can we have and maintain quality content in the forum.