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May 12, 2023, 05:21:04 PM
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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
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May 12, 2023, 05:24:18 PM
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AFAIK, I have not seen anyone being banned because they used image from a site without reference but I have seen those that copied contents (words) from image and posted them here in Bitcointalk (not as an image but in words) get banned.

Op, to be on a safer side it would be better for you to just add the source link underneath the image that way you won't have to worry about getting banned.

Anything you know or think will get your account into trouble just try to avoid it and in this case "add the source link" it's not going to take you more than 3 minutes to copy and paste the link.

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May 12, 2023, 05:34:19 PM
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Every original author must be given credit for his or her work; that's just what the forum wants. Let what's yours be yours. If you are using someone else's work, always give credit to the original creator, be it an image or text.

AI-generated text is not considered plagiarism, but it's not encouraged in the forum. What comes out of a human brain and that of a machine are not the same ideas. AI-generated text can easily be identified and, at the same time, can be off-point in most cases.

In this forum, information is considered very useful, and I myself consider it the best place to source original data based on human experience. People talk from experience, ask questions where necessary, and all this is done in their heads. Using AI is like the user wanting to use a shortcut to our smart forum, trying to tell the forum that they are smart, but they are actually not the brain behind their created content.

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May 12, 2023, 05:46:59 PM
Last edit: May 12, 2023, 06:41:30 PM by Hatchy
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Be it pictures, contents or write ups, what ever you are copying from any other source or user that isn't actually owned or referenced by you, is termed plagarism.

Op most people don't get banned just from posting images because these images sometimes don't have a direct ownership. As much as we are concerned, images can be generated using Ai, so no body literally own such images. There are lots of images across the internet without due ownership so anyone can make reference using them.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.

Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism

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May 12, 2023, 06:07:14 PM
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In a simple understanding, plagiarism is the act of stealing another author's content and converting it to your own without referencing the real owner, and that also includes both pictures and articles. But in this forum, article plagerism is really taken very seriously than image. That doesn't mean that posting an image that is not yours is not also considered plagiarism. If you have to post an image that is not yours, it's good that you add the source link to the image. There is now this common trend among some users who are using AI-generated content in the forum. It is not as if those contents are plagerized, but the forum is not really in support of Chat GBT AI-generated content, and at the moment no decision has yet been made by my moderators and theymos.

For "AI content generator" discussion threads, you can read:

AI-generated post discussion thread: how to identify & report
bitcointalk forum vs OpenAI - ChatGPT

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May 12, 2023, 06:17:18 PM
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It's actually true.
If anyone takes an information from the net/ elsewhere/the forum and/or otherwise, Which is not an their original piece of information, it's termed as plagiarism and the penalty is a perma- ban..(depending on the considerations from 'em mods)

No one has been banned for not adding a source link to a picture gotten elsewhere.... ofcourse, anyone would detect where the pictures really belong if they want to...but it's advisable to always add a source link at the end of every information that's not yours.

You won't be banned for making AI generated Posts... atleast for the fact that Theymos wants to make the forum as free as possible; for sure, anyone would easily detect an AI generated post and AFAIK, it's termed "shit posting" as the informations don't make requal sense.

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May 12, 2023, 06:59:52 PM
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Firstly this isn't a not book you must not affix lines after ending every sentence there is actually no need for that.

Also plagiarism has always been a very simple case and that's when you get any content that isn't yours you make sure to put in where you sourced it.

But with artificial intelligence although I am not fully grasped with how it works but I think I have seen statement that one can actually plagiarise and get undetected but what would be your personal gain doing so, fooling yourself is the worse thing anyone can do because you would never get the knowledge you plagiarized.

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May 12, 2023, 07:12:26 PM
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If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
Providing a link is the ideal thing to do, but to avoid plagiarism you must just not pass off someone else's work as your own. This can be avoided by using quotations to indicate that the content belongs to someone else, you can apply any other means but just make it clear in your post that the text does not belong to you.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.
I instinctively assume a posted image was not created by the user except they male it perfectly clear that it is theirs. There is no clear line for image plagiarism, they are reused so many times by so many people it becomes almost impossible to find the original source.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
AI generated post use information available online but does not copy any exact content, this is not plagiarism.

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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

Not only providing the link, you are not advised to copy what you see direct and paste it here just because you have the link. You can get the entire idea from the content and you can as well quote the content and provide the reference link to avoid been banned in the forum.

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

It is advisable to provide the source link for the image for easy access of the exact information you are sharing here so that the information will be verified.


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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
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A I can give you something unique, although it is not advisable, but using some plagiarism checkers to confirm the information will be better in order to be safe.

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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

That’s right, copy and paste without referencing the original author is against the forum rules and the punishment is a permanent ban. I have seen cases concerning plagiarized images in the past, but the moderators handle these matters on a case-by-case basis.


Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
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You do not need to post AI generated content here, just be yourself. Explore the forum and become family with the different boards. Increase your knowledge of bitcoin and crypto related discussions, you will find it easy to engage in discussions. Your original posts can earn you merit and grow your rank.

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Providing a link to both text and images is very essential in other to give credit to the source of the content you are posting here, but the images are viewed with less penalty or even zero penalties but make sure not to claim ownership of another person's work simply because images are not punishable here make sure to include the link at all time, even if not to avoid punishment,  it will help your readers to get a better picture of the whole story.

Direct copy and pest text without link is 100% plagiarism and punishable under forum rules.

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Including all sources in text or images is fine, it can be proof that you got the information from the internet.
what's not really allowed is creating posts with AI or responding to questions with AI. it is strictly prohibited at this time. although it is not detected as plagiarism, but it is the result of AI bots. This forum is not made for bots but for humans to interact with each other.

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

If posting a Google image or a random image from the internet without citing the original work was a problem or appeared to be plagiarism on the forum, everyone would have been banned by now because most of us have uploaded an image without stating the source, it only becomes a problem on the forum when someone steals an art to participate in an art contest and claims it as original work. Image plagiarism is mostly enforced in academic works, forums and social media do not follow this norm.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?

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Plagiarism and the use of someone's intellectual property are two different things.

Pla·gia·rism - the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

Posting someone's images is a use of intellectual property without permission. Providing a link to the source of the image won't necessarily make it acceptable and can be considered a violation or infringement of the owner's rights to that work.

It is unlikely you will be banned for posting someone's else image.

However, the admins are currently discussing the possibility of imposing a ban on posts created by artificial intelligence - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448111.msg

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Or much better to be genuine in discussions and avoid the usage of those AIs just for you to join discussions. You can practice yourself without using such because if you develop and has leaned on it for most of the time, it's gonna be a hard thing for you because you'll be reliant on it.
There's proper usage on it but not on these discussions. It's okay if you're not good at something when you're about to join discussions, thus, it's fine to ask questions to know the answers legitimately. It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.

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Plagiarism is a universal issue, although the forum tends to be lenient on image referencing and does not show preferential treatment to any member. Nevertheless, incorporating picture references is a commendable writing practice. In the past, I have come across several threads on the forum that tackle this topic.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
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Originally the forum is developed to accommodate only human users, but we can deny the possible existence of AI bots, even though the forum doesn't have rules specifically designed for AI usage but already forum members and moderators are already kicking against its usage and you can see that from the first page of some signature campaign was the manager is mentioned that the campaign is run with an anty AI detector and any participant that got caught from using and posting AI-generated text will be kicked out of the campaign and get a possible punishment some members got banned for that at some point so avoid it in all sense.

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...I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism...

The term plagiarism implies not only that you published someone else's message, but also passed it off as your own. Thus, you have appropriated the author's right to the text, passing it off as your own. Thus, if you publish someone else's image, passing it off as your own, then it will definitely be plagiarism.

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The forum moderators is more lenient when it comes to images.  So I do not think we have to worry about being banned when we use images and do not give link to its source.  But for ones piece of mind, why not put the link when it is already available the first time you see the image and use it.

It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.

I think it is always better to share a content of an article in providing proof and support to the topic being discussed than just mere personal idea which often got some errors.  Obviously we need to provide links to those articles to avoid plagiarism to avoid breaking the rules of the forum.
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Plagiarism is when you present stolen text as your own. Same with AI - if you try to pass it as your own post, you will get banned. If you make it clear that it's not your own post by putting it in a quote, you will be fine. As for pictures, generally people don't assume that the poster is the author, so you will be fine by leaving them unattributed. But still it can be plagiarism if you try to intentionally pass it as your own, for example if you enter a creative competition.
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