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I knew that there's many topic like this in the past that asking advice about loaning for gambling. The intention of this thread is determined what's the actual feeling when you are using a loan money on gambling knowing that there's an interest rate on your borrowed money which means you already lose part of your money before you start gambling.

I saw many high rank users here that asking for loan and directly deposit the loan amount on gambling account. I want to know what's the experience on using loan money. Is there additional pressure on gameplay or just the same using regular money without an interest rate.

Collecting a loan and using it to gamble is stupidity.

If someone is gambling with loan money, surely the person will most likely lose the money. The person is likely addicted and gambling addicts will continue to lose.

Gamble responsibly with the amount you can afford to lose.

How did you know what they are using the borrowed money for? Guessing makes you not to be right.

I personally have never gambled using borrowed money, the gambling I have done has always been from the money I have because it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know how they feel, those high accounts do it and how they feel when gambling using borrowed money.

But I see many of my friends in the neighborhood, they gamble from online loans, from what I see and they reveal, when playing they don't feel burdened by borrowing money in their gambling activities, they play happily, especially if they get a win, they said that they forgot that the money used was money from the loan, but if their situation loses, there are those who feel sorry and there are those who don't care, and let their loans go without making payments.

I had and I was so stupid. I realized after I lost all the money the same day that I borrowed it. Not at once, but as I continued to gamble with it and all got lost to gambling.

I’m not trying to become judgemental here but that’s how I can interpret a loan that received using casino account. I saw users on Darkstar loan thread before that receive loan via tip on their casino account while that specific casino has withdrawal fee and wagering requirements. I doubt that the loan money will not be used on gambling purposes or else they should use regular wallet address.

I don’t want to mention names here but you can check it for yourself on Darkstar loan thread.

Knowing that it's already a loss from the start, because there's an interest rate that's already active if you've borrowed, but I think it's wrong to borrow just for the sake of gambling, which is a faux pas that I don't think needs to be done or imposed.
I think there are many people who borrow for gambling but they feel responsible for it so it doesn't matter and it's up to them.


I don't know about this experience because I've never done it, maybe there is a pressure part when they are gambling if they don't win then they have to pay back the loan from other money, but for me there is definitely a pressure that is felt even though they will say it's the same as no interest on the loan.

You might be right to an extent, but I have few people that I know that have collected loan on this forum before. I know four people that collected loan on this forum before, only one person used it for trading, the remaining three people use it for life related things which is neither trading nor gambling.

Let us leave that alone because it is not even the main discussion. Borrowing money to gamble is stupidity. A responsible gambler will never do that.

anyone who borrows for gambling should already have a plan to repay it. even when they lose at the gamble. I mean gamblers don't have to worry if they lose their bet. because they have income that can be used to cover loans.
although such a practice is not really encouraged. but in reality, most likely all that was done. if gamblers already have funds that they can use as backups to pay off loans, such as the salary they will definitely get at the end of the month. then there will be no pressure in the game. it might be different when the borrower doesn't have the monthly or weekly salary to do that. so in thinking of gambling, he can't afford to lose.

I have experienced 2 different circumstances for this case, the first is when I borrow money to gamble but I have definite income that will come in the near future, while the second condition is when I borrow money to gamble but I have absolutely no money at all will come for the purpose of repayment of the loan.

When I was in the first condition, I felt that I had no pressure, played as usual, different from the second condition that even when I lost 5% of my borrowed money, I couldn't be sane anymore in determining my betting choices, which meant I was in pressure in the second condition.

Someone can borrow money from anyone, including several agents for gambling capital, this is possible, but I can say that this is not a good option to choose from. Someone who is very confident in himself or with their luck will not hesitate to seek a loan, addiction has stuck to them and emotions have moved under their subconscious. I have felt in this position when I ran out of money because of gambling but my passion and emotions kept pushing me to keep doing it, so there was no other way but to borrow money to raise capital and as a result you may already know that in the end I lost again. That's enough, and I would never suggest someone gamble using borrowed money, or purposely borrow money for them to gamble. There will be a lot of pressure that you feel when gambling using borrowed money, and if you can't stop it immediately then one day you will feel how it feels to be in debt.

I tried it before where I loaned money in order to gamble and the end result was the expected- my debt increased and I extended my loan in order to answer for the expenditures it costed for me to gamble.

At the end of the day, this really boils down on the reason on why you gamble in the first place. If you are chasing for profits, then expect losses at the same time due to the nature of it. If you gamble for entertainment, then the value on how much you bet is somehow irrelevant.

The lesson is here is to AVOID gambling using loaned money as the result is something that can further pile up and increase your debts/loan in the future.

Doesn't really matter if you borrow or didn't borrow and gamble with your money. Once you take out a loan and decide you are going to gamble with it, what matters is you have the means to pay back that loan. You can use the money for trading(gambling), casino(gambling), or to buy food. Long as you pay it back it doesn't matter.

This is exactly what I’m thinking when I create this thread. I was tempted before to ask loan here just to gamble while waiting for my campaign salary to come but the interest rate discourage and your situation is exactly what I’m thinking whenever the loan money starting to burn on bets while you are thinking on how you will repay again the loan plus interest rate.

Pressure is really high when you are on the brink of losing while you don’t have enough money to pay the loan on time once you lose the loan amount.


@Oshondy, I totally agree with you. This is why I created this thread to get an insight on how user that doing this feel during actual game. If they feel pressured on gambling or just normal because we have different take on how we handle pressure and gambling.

I avoid debt like the plagueand therefore, it seems to me even worse idea to borrow to play EV-games. Debt implies risk and borrowing to play casino games implies a very high risk, whoever does so plays with fire.

In poker there are also those who get into debt calculatedly, for example people who are good and are banked to play higher levels or at tables where there are fish with a lot of money but they do not have enough bankroll to withstand a bad streak of the level. Then they make a pact with someone who does have money and bankrolls them, taking a percentage of the profits.

It's not bad, but I generally prefer to avoid any kind of debt.

I have never borrowed money in my life to use for gambling. For one there's no guarantee that you'll win whatever you're about to wager on so you gambling on loan is like throwing your money into the sea and hoping that the wave brings it back to you.

For those that have borrowed and I have seen most of them do regret it while a few of them are lucky enough to come out with some profits, if you check the lending board you'll notice that lenders are not willing to lend to some accounts when they notice that they want to use it for gambling except that account is in a signature campaign that guarantees the payback of that loan.
For me loaning to gamble is a no go area for me.

Although i have never taken loan to gamble and it is not recommended to gamble with loan money but if you ask my feelings on gambling after taking a loan, i would fee very much anxiety and tension because i would definitely want to win in gambling else how can i return my loan back.

This is the main concern and problem with the loan money as you are overridden with emotions and due to that you are more likely to lose. Also it become impossible for you to enjoy the gambling because the only thought that surrounds your mind is to win and return the amount to the lender.

I have not tried asking loan only to gamble the money. Those users must have some tips like they are very sure they will win and replay the amount after playing. My heart would be pumping so hard if I bet the money if it were me. I would be betting the money on sports most probably. Those who took loans to gamble, do they do it in casino games like blackjack nad poker or would they do it in sports?


Yep a no-go for me as well. If there is really the need to gamble, I might just sell the altcoins that I have been holding for years than ask for a loan.

For me though I did not try to do it but if ever I will take a loan and use it gambling I will be pressured everyday and feel frustrated if I will lose all those money because I need to pay for interest and that will be the worst. So as much as possible I will only use my loans for emergency and use my own or extra money for gambling so whether i win or not , I don't have regrets.

I never ask for a loan here and even in real life I could not imagine myself asking loan just to deposit in a casino, I am not good at betting, and besides you are forced to win, and that alone can cause you to lose the game at the back of your mind, you are thinking of the money that you loan and you need to make profit from gambling.

Once you are forced to make a profit from gambling you cannot enjoy the game and this makes you lose concentration and this will lead to losing your money.

Maybe most of the people here have experienced this incident and I will answer from myself.
I have often done this behavior and for me gambling using loan money is the same as gambling using ordinary money because even though I will lose because the loan money has been deducted by interest, at least the amount I borrow and use for gambling is according to my ability to return it.
So there is no pressure whatsoever even if you use loan money but it is not really recommended because the risk is very high when you cannot control yourself borrowing too much which is not in accordance with the amount of income it will add to problems in life.
We know that gambling wastes money very quickly if you are not lucky, so if the loan money is too high and you lose, it will definitely burden your mind and end up in big trouble because you have to deal with people who lend money.

I have not seen and heard anyone asking or used loan for gambling but I have seen and heard in this forum that someone asked if he can used loan for investment and not gambling. Op I ask you to bring the high rank user who used loan for gambling. Using loan to gamble is 50/50 and if you loss then you have entered debt and if you win, you will be release from the high tension of your mind. Using loan to play gambling is and will never be a good idea. But among the gamblers and the most addicted ones borrow money from another gambler to pay interest in the casino hall to play gambling. Even those ones are small amount.

Taking loans to gamble is a very high risk and this is not good advice and if there is no money it is better not to gamble or to earn money by working or other income to make money and partly gambling.
now many people make online loans just to gamble and use loans just to waste their money on gambling, and they find it difficult to return it, some even dig holes to cover holes just to gamble which in the end become poor because everything is sold money to pay debt.

and I haven't done what the OP mentioned, and I'd rather not gamble if I didn't have the money nor am I an active gambler. And what was said above is a reality because it's easy to make loans and liquid money only takes a few minutes, and online loans are poison for gambling addicts that make it easy for them to do it and keep playing.

Seriously, I never had any idea of using loan money to gamble before because I never fell into that situation before, but I have seen my close friends do it due to their gambling addiction. So many gamble addicts don't always care because their expectations are always that they will win and be able to recover their losses and profits.

Despite having never tried using a loan to gamble before, I believe those that are doing so will not feel comfortable when they are using loan money because they also know that what they are doing is high-risk. But for people who have other sources of income that, even if they lose, they can pay back, I don't think they will be that worried compared to those who don't have other means.all I know is never a good idea to borrow money to gamble. 

To me, it's the same as any other gambling session. There's no pressure to win desperately since i'm borrowing an amount I know I can pay back before the agreed date, regardless of what I get from my bets. If you're gambling with a big bankroll like in the thousands, then the pressure starts to kick in, as most gamblers don't spend that much in one go.

Also, Stake and most casinos have at least a 1x wagering requirement, so they still have to gamble and place some bets before withdrawing the money.

I don't have this experience, loans for gambling have never been done I know about the risks but for me those who do are certainly ready to return by paying the loan.
Other members will share their experiences here if you don't mind, it would be interesting to hear.

Agree with this statement.
People are free to do whatever they want, loans are free to be used for anything including gambling, the most important thing is that he is ready to repay as you said it will not be a problem.
If they can overcome this, then loans for gambling then it will become commonplace and not something bad because they are still able to repay their loans.

The interest that has already been applied will make it even harder to repay your loan. I never try to do that. It's very risky. I can't answer this because i never do that.


I just try to tell you about my friend. He was taking a loan from online lending application, which has a very high interest rate. He used it for gambling purposes and he must repay what he had borrowed three times more.
It's very risky. I think that is the only stupidest guy who will be doing it. It will be giving tremendous pressure. That will make my friend almost doing suicide.

Gambling using borrowed money is the same thing, there is no pressure whatsoever in gambling, and it works like playing gambling with my own money, I have experienced this too, friends.

what's more dangerous is using a large loan, which makes it difficult for us to pay it, maybe borrowing with money that we can replace tomorrow can be easier and less impactful than using a very large loan, that would be like killing ourselves, not to mention if time our payment is late, the interest charged even though it is small will be large if calculated from the total loan.
Luckily I borrowed money at that time with an amount that could be replaced a few days later.

But it's true that using borrowed money to gamble is an act of self-harm. It will even make you more unstable in the future. It's better to wait until you have money to gamble than force yourself to borrow to play gambling.

I'd advise you to never take out a loan to gamble.  Gambling is just that you can lose it all.  It's the easiest way to put yourself in debt to not be able to get out of it.  Not only that you will have to outwit your interest you owe on it as well.  The house already has the odds you are giving yourself a less of a chance to break even or win with a loan.  Go work, save up some money and use money that you can afford to lose to gamble.  Be smart.

It is obvious. Ofcourse you'd be more pressured gambling an amount you borrowed compared to an amount from your pocket. Reason is simple, you win you return the money; you lose, you will still have to pay it. It is like a double risk and will never be advisable. Indeed there re still players who does such thing but never copy this behavior. Also if you see yourself in such action, then you should worry. A point that you are ready to risk everything in gambling is already a sign of addiction 'coz you're no longer worried or aware of the consequences.
I also doubt especially for higher rank foeum users. They're more experienced basically so for sure they know how to manage the risk in both worlds of investment and gambling. But I honestly not saw one, also will not do it for sure. Limiting oneself should be a mandatory in gambling industry in order to avoid making things worse.

What if they use the borrowed money to participate in some wagering competitions or take advantage of current promotions like rakeback and boosted odds? I mean, I know there's no sure thing in betting, and their money is still at risk, but this way they at least increase their chances of paying back the loan and still making a profit.

I haven't personally engaged in this, but I assume there are people out there who methodically hunt for such opportunities. Betting can be quite the game for those seeking strategic advantage and potential profits.

Sorry in advance I didn't mean that about you, this can be used as a lesson for me and everyone here not to gamble using borrowed money, because the impact will make it difficult for us, even though in practice it doesn't feel burdensome, but when you lose it puts us under too much stress.
BTW does the person who lent you money know that you are using money from him to do gambling?


Fortunately, you were saved from that incident, which made you not borrow money to gamble.
Still, even if you have a job, then you borrow for gambling it is a wrong action, and it is highly not recommended, it is better for you to wait until you get a salary, that is much better than borrowing.

Imagine the emotions that go with normal gambling and compare it with taking a loan just to gamble. It might sound like a good idea when the urge to gamble comes, mostly if you are one who is addicted to gambling.
It is worse to even try taking out a loan to gamble when you know you rarely win or just simply starting out as a gambler.

I do think the loan feature might be available to old users on a gambling site because they have the credibility to pay back and gamble more.
I wouldn't really advice taking loans to gamble because the pressure of the experience will be much and might lead one to depression if the loan borrowed can't be paid back as at when due.

Trust me, don't do that, it would be better if you waited until you have allocated money to gamble instead of having to play the money you borrow. I don't have the capability to explain everything, but this is all related to the psychology, so not only in trading, even in gambling you also have to have a healthy mentality to be able to think rationally.

I see a lot of risk involved here not because of gambling alone but rather the tendency of asking for more loan money and got buried by a pile of debt due to the interest building up. This will work if the gambler win the game but a terrible scenario when gambler loss since he will pay for the interest and the borrowed amount without getting anything from the borrowed money.

I never try this and I don't have plan to try this. Even asking a loan is not on my list here because I'm always afraid on the interest rate. It's very hard to borrow money for me because I can't sleep whenever I have due date bills or payment.

I don't know how I would feel if I borrowed money for gambling but if I were a gambling addict who wanted to keep playing, I probably wouldn't have any feelings except for getting money fast.
I'm not going to think about anything else because with the borrowed money, I can continue playing and I hope it will turn me around to get big wins and recover my previous losses.
And fortunately, I have no experience borrowing money for gambling so I don't feel any pressure while gambling.
After all, I always use my own money to play gambling and of course, with the amount of money I can afford.

I've never done such a thing and I don't even have plans of going into that line, talk more of advising a friend or anyone to do such a thing because the regret comes with several other consequences, I know how I feel sometimes when I lose huge funds to gambling, sometimes I feel very remorseful and regret staking such amount on a bet, then you could imagine what you'll go through the pains of loosing a money you got from taking a loan I consider it a very wrong step one could take so you should even think about it if you've got any plans to.
 First off there are many things you should consider because there's no guaranteed success and it's a very big risk because you could lose completely also in a case where you lose you could be in debt and attract some embarrassment when you're unable to pay back, you shouldn't do it because you heard higher ranking members mention it, you might not be experienced as them or have strategies of managing risk of losing, the risk is not worth taking an I won't advice you on going towards that line.

I don't know why the member is of interest to you. OP just used it as an example or case study. If you want to know the member you can use the search button of the forum. But for me knowing the user makes no meaning because the message from the thread is clear without identifying the member.

The chances of winning in gambling are sometimes less than 50% so it is a high-risked venture. I am even scared to take a loan to invest in a business because of uncertainties. But I have never thought of ever borrowing money for gaming because I will not be comfortable until the results of my bets are out. If the loan is a high sum the chances of me developing high blood pressure will be high. I also agree that most people that take loans just to satisfy their gambling urge are likely suffering from gambling disorder.

Loaning money for gambling is a very bad idea and it definitely adds to the pressure, which adds to your anxiety, which completely puts you in a illogical state of mind during which you are susceptible to losing very large amounts of money. So the combination of taking loans and gambling do not mix together well.

I have personally never borrowed money for the intent of gambling but I have heard many accounts of such people over the years on this board. And they never end well because of irresponsible gambling behavior. For the lenders and the casino, this is a win-win situation. So it depends on where you stand from your perspective. Although personally I would not feel very happy to lend money to someone who will gamble it all away.

Thank you for the warning. I fully understand the risk that's why I never ask any loan here in the forum even though I have way to pay it even without my signature campaign which I typically use for my gambling activity here.

I'm already thrilled whenever I'm down with 50% of my bankroll and I can't imagine what will I feel incase I'm using money that I just borrow with additional interest. If ever I will do this in the future. I think only 100$ is my maxmimum borrowed money that I can afford to lose sonce borrowing more money means more interest that is a relized loss already even before gambling.

First I will never borrow money to gamble, even though I can borrow for other things, but never will it be for gambling. But for the average addicted gambler that can go at any length to get money for gambling, I can say that they really do not care where the money comes from or how to pay back, they just want to satisfy that gratification of gambling. If you borrow to gamble, there is an untold pressure that comes upon the borrower that can make them emotionally imbalanced, increasing their chances to make mistakes in their bet.

Please can you interpret this to me because probably I am the one who misunderstood the op. 👇
From the above statement, the op has seen a thread of a high rank user who used loan to gamble and I have not seen such thread from a high rank user and that is why I asked him to the link, though privacy is important in the forum, but this is a statement someone made in the forum, so he can display it.

I have no experience with this. but I can say this is high risky so It is better not to try to gamble with debt. a person is interested in taking a loan only when he has no accumulated money and is in a great danger. If you borrow, you must pay interest with the loan amount. so it's already a lot of trouble.  And if one gambles and loses that money, it becomes a huge challenge for him to repay the loan. So I don't think gambling with loan money can be any good experience

I'm not aware of high ranked members on this forum borrowing money to gamble and I think it's really unlikely to be happening, because if it were, other high ranked members would have already placed a lot of red flags on their profiles due to the reason they are borrowing money, as it means there are huge risks for the lender to not receive his money back with interest paid (scam). Also, nobody would lend money to someone with the gambling purpose. That would be insanity, unless there is a very good collateral involved on the negotiation...

just yesterday I talked about something similar, I said that gambling do not give guaranteed profit, nobody is absolutely sure that at the end of the day there will be consecutive victories to the point that even if there is a defeat it will come out with a profit, this we can give an example of what even if a person was placing sports bets and was only betting on games with low odds, something like games with odds below @150, if that person were to hit 10 games he would be in profit, but it would be enough for him to lose in 10 games for that person to have losses, and if that person keeps betting on games with odds of @125 the situation will be worse for him

so there is no advantage in asking for a loan to play gambling knowing that the interest is high and gambling do not give a guaranteed profit, even if the loan amount is something very low it still does not pay off, like most people they keep saying, gambling should be seen as fun, so people should only use money that they can afford to lose, with that thought we come to the conclusion that first the person needs to pay bills and then the person can take the money what's left and what's destined to play, because that person knows that even if he loses that money he won't miss it

The best policy is just don't do it.  If you are that desperate for money to gamble, then you're doing something you shouldn't be doing, it's really that plain and simple.  This is where people become degons and wreck their lives.  I know of a forum member who borrowed funds from other friends on the forum, a lot of funds, and ended up losing a massive amount on a coin he was "so sure would moon" that he ended up just "running away" and screwing over his friends. 

Just don't do it.

Using loans for gambling should be discouraged because at the end of the day you will loss all that money in gambling. Your mind will not be settled as you will be on pressure and might not be calculate properly because all your mind is to win and pay back your loan. Never take gambling as a means to make profit so that you don't get depressed when you loss.

Addiction is what will make you take a loan and gamble with it because you don't have self-control over your gambling activities. This is why one should set aside a weekly budget for gambling so that the moment your budget is over,you should quit gambling and wait till you have another funds to gamble.

Some people in the forum use their gambling accounts as some form of hot-wallet to send funds and easily transfer it for use cause withdrawal and conversion is easy and streamlined for one, so just cause these people are sending money through their gambling accounts doesn't necessarily mean they'd use it for gambling, although it would make sense in the grand scheme of things if they were to use the loaned cash for gambling purposes so I understood your line of thinking. Anyhow, I don't condone taking up a loan for gambling, that's one of the worst ways to shoot yourself in the foot cause not only are you losing money once, you lose it twice.

When you take up a loan, you're stealing money from your future self. That's already one good reason why you shouldn't take up a loan in the first place, now, when you use that money to gamble it's a way worse thing cause now not only are you stealing money from yourself, you're also burning it without a worry. So don't take up a loan guys, at the very least you'd end up with an empty pocket that can't be filled easily cause you'd have to pay the one you're indebted with, worst you might get into bigger trouble especially if you took up loans from shady dealings.

To be honest, i have never done a loan to gamble, especially in the community. however, we have past experience regarding this thread. I once borrowed money, in my local currency to gamble. I remember, at that time I was still playing in a land casino. the money I borrowed, of course, with a guarantee. for example, vehicles, or other valuables with fairly high interest.

Related to your question, both online loans and like my personal experience. after all, it's the same, essentially we borrow money to gamble. basically, it all depends on the individual gambler. there are many gamblers who are confident that he will win his bet and even return the loan money right away. there are also those who experience pressure, usually they will be more careful when doing game sessions. from the two examples I said, I've experienced it. but usually, the pressure comes when our balance is running low or will end in defeat. pressure like this, would make most gamblers nervous. because he knows that the money he borrows according to the agreed agreement must be paid on time.
Here I just want to remind you, never make it a habit to borrow money to gamble, even if you are a gambler who is an expert in his field. it would be nice, if you don't have the finances to make a bet. better, do other activities that can break our focus.

Their is no evidence to proof that some many of the high rank people are using loan the collected for gambling, they already know that gambling is a risks and none of them will like to gambling with loan money, any member who cross full member rank have already gotten good experience in forum and also in gambling, so I believe that gambling is all about luck and its not what somebody will use it borrowed money to do, knowing that it will be hard before luck of gambling come on its paths, I don't know exactly what people think of gambling because myself I can't advice somebody to use a loan money to gamble

That’s what I haven’t done before, and I don’t even want to try it, why will I take a loan to gamble, I don’t have other things to with the loan I took, the only thing that will come to my mind is gambling, that’s completely wrong to me.

Let’s just make assumptions but am sure the assumption can’t be real, if I can take loan to gamble, then am going to lose all the money because their will be pressure on me when gambling, I won’t even be settled to place my bet, because any small mistake then the money is gone already, so it will be left for me to look for a way to pay back the loan which I took, that’s why I don’t even think about talking loan to gambling.

Some people are always having confidence that they are going to win that’s why they are always doing that, and am sure some people can gamble under pressure, but to be honest I can’t gamble under pressure, if am doing that am definitely going to lose that’s why I can’t even take that risk.

You can’t take loan without having any risk, it’s not even about the interest which is on the loan, the main issue is that what if you lose how will you be able to pay back the loan, but some people are always having job, so even if they lose they will still be able to pay back the loan.

That phrase "so sure would moon" caught my attention because that has been the reason people will borrow money to go for it. They fear they will lose the opportunity if they don't play the lucky dip, they see it as opportunity to get rich and that will lead them into borrowing with the hope that once they stake the game the next thing will be cash out, it never happens that way. If gambling or any other sources of getting money was easy then money would have just been littered on the road. People get into depression when things like this happens especially if you are are trusted person among your friends, you don't have face to stay with them again if you can't repay the debt. This is unfortunate and we need to know that as we are gambling, we don't have to be unreasonable and give the, if it doesn't happen a thought also

Being responsible with your finances is key, regardless of whether you borrow or not. If you decide to take out a loan and engage in gambling or other activities, always have a well-thought-out plan to ensure you can repay the loan. Whether you use the money for trading, casino visits, or necessities like food, remember that timely repayment is crucial to maintain financial stability and avoid unnecessary stress. It's wise to balance your entertainment and financial goals and never gamble with funds you cannot afford to pay back.

Gambling with credit money is unwise and dangerous behaviour.
Credit money is a debt that needs to be paid back. If a gambler loses this money in gambling, he or she may find that there is not enough money to pay back the debt. This in turn will lead to serious financial problems.

Did you see them actually deposit that loan money to their gambling accounts? That's a good thing to do where everyone gets the idea that money is just going to lose entirely. But to each their own, as that's their money and that's the loan that they shall pay. Even though everyone should be wise on how to use their money and up to the point that they're going to take a loan, they're just adding pressure on themselves that it should be spent wisely. There could be reasons behind that, one is that they're totally addicted at all and no one can stop them. They know the consequences that actions may bring to them and they will be one to suffer it eventually. Once this mistake has been done and they saw how terrible it was, they may not do it again.

Depends on the situation of the loaner.  If the person who loan has enough amount to cover the payment and the interest, I do not think he will be pressured while using the amount of money borrowed to gambling.  Aside from that, when the loan due is months away, I also think that there will be no pressure or whatsoever when on the gambler's part.  Pressure comes when the time for payment is getting near.

You can take a loan to start up a business, sponsor a project but not for gambling, I repeat not for gambling it's wreckless, stupid and a broad lane to indebtedness.

Gambling is not 100% sure that a win will be made and for something that's with no hundred percent assurance there should be a limit to certain risks we take towards it especially that of taking loan money for gambling purpose.

For anyone to take loan money just to use it to gamble then it's a conspicuous sign of gambling addiction.

Very wird way of gambling,  because when gambling with borrowed money you are already under pressure to payback that loan and that could impact your gambling activity negatively just as you said in your first comment,  taking a loan to gamble is the most stupid thing to do as a gambler because gambling is a high-risk venture and the results are highly unpredictable which is why,  it is better not to gamble to earn money but only gamble with the amount you can afford to lose.

But a loan is not an amount one can afford to lose,  since you will have to pay it back at some point,  so ultimately taking a loan to gamble is not sensible enough.

Ops may not or have just made an assumption on the reason why users seek loans,  as you rightly said,  ops should stop assuming things.

One thing is with this borrowed money you are definitely bent on winning and this already exerts pressure on you because at this time your state of mind has actually be tempered with and your reason will not be right again which will most likely lead you to making rash decisions. Even if you later win little amount you will not want to back down but instead will want to win more since there is also interest added to the loan. Should you be losing you will still continue since you would want to recover all your money. So I don’t think that the care freedom associated with gambling with your own money will be there and that will actually take the fun way from it.

The loan guy should not had any other loan on their current state,because the loan is like the spider web.It will kill you at the time of emergency,Since you owe some people you can't get any other loan.If you are free from the loan,you can use the opportunity to get loan at the emergency.The second one is the amount of money you are going to take loan to satisfy the gambling bet.If you get addicted to the gambling,you will keep take the loan again and again.Then you get into big trouble like big loan burden and it will back you 5-10 year backward.

So it's better to avoid loan and do gambling,you can gamble using the income you get on the monthly basis.Because income is the money you get regular and you can't affected by using the income,but your loan will make into trouble ometime.

Borrowing is fine as long as you can pay for it but if you are going to borrow and fully depend on the possible income that you can get in gambling then that’s too risky since gambling profit is not guaranteed and you might lose the money you borrow so it’s not advisable. I’ve done this before and I lose the money fortunately, I still have the funds to repay my debt. I agree that being responsible is the key, this is gambling and you should gamble based on your financial capacity.

When borrowing for gambling, you have to make sure that you won't be expecting high wins before you're able to pay for it. You have to be ready for the possibilities and must have spare source of funds to pay for it because we all know the risks that gambling could give. We might have unexpected losses so we shouldn't rely on the result before being able to pay for it.
Being responsible when it comes to borrowing is necessary or else, we could face difficulties and consequences in the end. As much as possible, we must avoid borrowing for gambling and only gamble using the funds that we can afford to lose.

^ That is a bad decision, why?
Firstly, the act of using a loan for gambling can intensify the pressure and stress during gameplay. Knowing that you not only have to win back what you wagered but also cover the interest on the loan can create a heightened sense of urgency and desperation. This added pressure may lead to impulsive and irrational decisions, which are often counterproductive in gambling.
Secondly, by using loaned money, you are essentially starting the gambling process already at a loss due to the interest on the borrowed funds. This means that even if you win some money during your gambling session, you may still end up losing overall because you have to repay the loan along with the interest. This can lead to a vicious cycle of borrowing more money to cover previous losses, which can quickly spiral out of control and result in significant debt. So now what do you think?

For me, I don't even know why a person will have to go and borrow me to play bet when we know how risky it is for one to borrow me to gamble. Gambling is a big risk and some persons still see it as a game of luck where one is take small risk to win high amount of money. Even bet has multiple gains when we are going to win. It is very important for us to weigh our risk before we going into gambling or borrowing money to bet. The risk is very high and we need to understand the kind of risk we are taking before going into it. It is just like a person that is trying to use $10 to win $5 million dollars. How possible could this ever be?

Borrowing to gamble is ridiculous in my opinion. While not expecting high wins, this is a very risky choice. especially if you don't have a source of reserve funds, borrowing only becomes a new burden to pay new bills and you still don't get a profit. Borrowing to trade may still make sense, but borrowing to gamble is a ridiculous thing that is only fraught with risk.

Although it's not a frequent habit but if you scroll through the lending board or some dedicated lending thread you'll notice that some might not state it directly since it will discourage the lender from giving out a loan to them but if you track their transactions on the blockchain you'll notice that sometimes get sent to their gambling address. I don't have any evidence and I don't plan on going through the lending boad for one but this thread^[1]  should give you an idea of what I'm saying afterall we are dealing with gambling here and once it turns into an addiction everything becomes possible.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2643220.0

Getting a loan for gambling is a sign that you are a compulsive gambler, even if you are capable of paying it and even if you have enough funds you should not get used to getting a loan to gamble, there's pressure to win using money that did not come out of your pocket and if you lose, you lose twice the money you loan and the interest rate, you might end getting more loan to chase your losses because there's always pressure to win back money that you are not comfortable losing.
Once you dip your hands in taking a loan and there are resy people to give you a loan you will always be tempted to try your luck again by taking a loan, and money from a loan cannot be allocated because there's intrerest attach to it.

It all depends on the exposure of the borrower because borrowing money that you are able to pay without being worried of if may not affect your gambling at the moment at the cost of placing and losing your bets. Is just like saying I have $200 to gamble at the moment knowing to well that I could get to my shop or work place and make $3000 either before closing or after work closes, that is why they only take loan they know they could overcome the pressure despite on the lost side at least you would be confident enough to pay back without being sad about the lost but, where it may affect the borrower is when you don't have an alternative to pay back maybe the means was to win and pay back the loan amount that is when you could feel very sick whenever you are running lost.

Loan money should be spent on getting assets that would sure to yield profits and not frivolities like gambling wherein the odds are against you. You are already on the losing side in an adventure where the game is rigged in their favor. Please no one should take out a loan for gambling.  Loan money is just like the devils money once you take it the pressure to pay it back together with the high interest rate may result in health challenges for the gambler who loses such money in gambling.

there is a feeling of pressure! that's for sure, everyone who takes loans for risky actions ^{(such as investing, trading and gambling)} must have a very heavy mental burden, because what comes to mind from the borrower is how to return the loan on time, for that borrowing money to gamble is a ridiculous behavior.
recently in my environment, a man was kicked out by his father from home because he borrowed money from a loan shark to gamble, and the stupid man lost so the loan shark continued to terrorize the borrower's family, often people are trapped here, always remember that the money that what you borrow is not your money, never be desperate to borrow money from other people, let alone moneylenders for gambling purposes.

In the same way that we can only bet in games of chance the money we are willing to lose, with borrowed money the logic is very similar...
Before someone borrows money, it is necessary to think about how the person will return it if they lose everything in gambling. If the answer to that is something like "I don't know" then you should never borrow the money for that purpose.

However, if the person is sure that next month he will receive payment for a salary or sale, then it is possible to borrow money in order to "satisfy the addiction" without having to wait for the receipt of that money.

In any other situation, gambling with borrowed money is insane. Unfortunately, there are people who borrow money from friends or relatives and hide the true purpose of it, consequently end up losing friends or creating fights within their own family.

Beyond the obvious stupidity of borrowing money for gambling (assuming the person is going through economical difficulties). I think that gambling with money one does not actually own or has borrowed would only add to the feeling of remorse and disappointment if the gambling sessions go worng and one lose it all to the casino.

On the other hand, if luck is on ones side and one can pay all back quickly, then it could influence on the future behavior of the gambler and getting them used to take even more risks in the future, borrowing even larger amounts of money, eventually we all know how it will end.

I am glad I have never been in such position. I feel for those how have, though.

Gambling with loaned funds is outright insanity. You are just digging a grave for yourself because you don't have any guarantees that you will win anything, or even win back what you put in the casino/gambling platform. Better to gamble with something that came from your own money rather than getting it from somewhere else then making a problem out of it.

This gonna lead the gambler towards grave for sure. Maybe one in hundred will be successful whereas the majority end up losing the loan amount, and once again starts struggling to repay the loan as well as the interest. I've personally experienced it and when we've got good wallet balance all we do is wager with high amount. Even when we have made good profit the mind never accepts and makes us go for more and end up losing everything. One could learn from experience and many of them will understand only through experience and we need to leave it to their choice on these things.

Never ever i had this kind of idea in mind on using up loan money to play on gambling thats why i cant really tell precisely on how it would feels like but having that common sense and assuming on what would be the feeling on using up a loan amount on which it is true that on the time you do take the loan then you are already losing considering that you do need to pay up the interest. How much more if you would really be able to lose all of those amounts in gambling? You would really totally be paying up the loan+interest on a due time on which you would really be having a hard time on repaying if you dont have any other source for you to ensure
those payment or due.

On the time that you would be playing then the pressure is there because you would really be mainly having in mind that you should be winning because you would need to pay up a loan plus interest on which it would really be removing all that entertainment or thrill on doing gambling because of that pressure on which its not really that recommended at all on doing so.This is why as much as possible it wont really be that
recommended on doing so because you would really be putting yourself in huge debt because losing plus paying up interest then that sucks.

oh, there is an additional pressure alright, every bet can be nerve-cracking especially if you keep losing a bet, it also makes you unnecessary riskier bets just to hope that you can get a big win and get back the money you've lost and more, in order to pay back the money you borrowed.

How do you know that the high rank account ask the loan for gambling?
I know that we have some loan services in this forum, there are many forum members asking for loan there. But they never stated the loan for a certain purpose, nor for gambling.

Anyway, if it is true. The high rank asked for the loan because they know well how to earn money from gambling. They mustn't use the loan money if they just speculate in gambling. Basically, it is too risky to use the loan money, but the experts or experienced gamblers can deal with the risks. However, it is just my guess, not sure whether they really can succeed with loan money or not. For me, gambling is gambling, no specific way to always win. Even you are an expert, the chance to lose will be always more than 50%.

Of course, when we take a loan, we must expect to earn more money. The loan must have a deadline to repay and have some interest, too. This must bring more pressure to gamblers.

for sure, you have adrenaline rush when you are waiting for the results of your bets, if you just loaned the money with high interest. i don't want to put myself in that kinda situation because that's gonna be sick. i have the feeling that those gamblers who put themselves into this situation will gonna throw up once their bets are on the losing end. this is why there are some addicted gamblers who fear for their lives esp if they got the money from gang members. so to avoid such trouble, don't gamble if you have don't have funds to spare with.

Everyone won't understand the hard part of loan. They have an understanding that gambling will bring us big money. The real thing, it'll bring good money and we should have the right understanding to take break, stop, resume and have our limits. When we make statements it is really easy, but in real time we won't follow it. This makes gambling more riskier, and even more riskier when the money used is out of loan.

I've tried it, definitely going to be nervous. there is a feeling of restlessness when spin or click the button bet. There is also a fear that money lost and never back the capital. So, if someone here wants to take a loan for gambling, I hope you dissuade from now, because there's nothing good about it, you're being chased and under pressure. Even if you win, you will continue it again after the interest back and double it the capital. That circle always spin and stop when you lost your loan money. Better to gambling with free money, which is not used for your needs.

I doubt you will really understand the pressure of just hearing the other thoughts and responses here.

For me, if you don't have any plans on borrowing money just to gamble, then doesn't need to know the actual feeling of it. How can you determine the "actual" feeling if you won't even try it on "actual" in the first place, right?

The better thing to do is, just don't make an attempt to do it not unless you are sure to cover it.

It's fine to borrow money but not for purposes related to gambling.

I know I've advocated it before that loaning for your hobbies and enjoyment is dumb, I've actually done it once or twice in the past, hence why I share it with others and why they shouldn't to it in the first place. The idea is that it isn't even related to the purpose really, just the fact that you have an active loan somewhere is like having a guillotine above your head all the time, that is if you have some shame, which I do. If one didn't have shame in the first place, I reckon they'd just shoulder loans here and there all the time.

I didn't really have pressure myself when spending money, at least, during the time that I spent it, I only felt thrill and enjoyment, which is only a short moment though. After that whenever I remember about the loan I have this chill of trying to think of how I'd pay it. It didn't last long since I've planned it out already, but just the idea that there was a loan in the first place was enough to shake me into not asking for one if possible.

Well as a gambler nobody is supposed to tell you that gambling is hard and risky because i feel and believe you have been gambling yourself to have had the experience for yourself so going to take loan for such high risk is totally out of the question and it's similar to when someone actually gave you money to buy or hold for them and you willingly used the money to gamble tinking you can add up your interest to the funds whereas you don't the casino's also have other plans with the funds. Such act can put someone into big problem.

I have not tried this yet as I have no intention of making gambling part of where I would make money for my daily or monthly needs. It's all just an addition to my joy in watching sports and some casino games to pump my heart up. So I'd never loan anything just for it, it's not too important.

But you may be right, there will be a lot of pressure in using a loan amount to risk it more in the gambling way. I mean, I am already under pressure just knowing I have a loan, what more if I am trying to double it in a risky way?
This is not a recommended method to start gambling, it would still be better if the money will come from yourself and actually a spare to avoid stress and pressure.

People could play Russian roulette to see if they get it right or if the bullet is there when they pull the trigger and blow their brains out, so what difference does it make?

Borrowing to finish has all the tickets to end badly, and I personally know of one case who to this day has his accounts seized because he used instant loans when he couldn't stop gambling. He lost and to this day he still has money taken out of her paycheck to pay off the debt every time he gets paid.

Taking loans in gambling in my opinion is an act that is very detrimental to ourselves, because in gambling we cannot predict whether we will win or lose, if we win of course there is no problem, but if we lose we feel uncomfortable experiencing something like that.
I think it would be better if we played gambling using our own money, big or small, the money we use feels very comfortable.

Im sure that many high-ranking users who have been in gambling for a long time have experienced this and even though they already know the risks are huge, I still do it on the basis of having a job or definite income to pay off loans.
TBH, Im borrowed money several times to gamble but I decided to borrow when I had calculated all the risks I had to accept with my income right then and there. so I continued to gamble as usual because I had no doubts or fear of not being able to return the loan because there was already a definite income that could cover my loan.
but don't do it if you don't have a steady income or don't even do it even if you have a definite job because saving money is more important than continuing to have fun at gambling.

and I once lent money to my friend to gamble and it was actually very risky because when it was due he couldn't return it and was forced to let the money I loaned disappear.
for me lending money or borrowing money is very risky, especially breaking up friendships or close relatives, especially if the money is used for gambling.

I once did it, borrowing money to gamble, for me the pressure remains the same when gambling with money not from borrowing, but I also the reason why borrow because at that time I didn't have coins in my wallet while I needed to do it because there was a promotion which I thought was quite interesting, and maybe the pressure will be different when making a loan not based on our ability to repay the loan, I mean we borrow beyond the limit of our ability and the purpose of the loan is to pursue victory which will put very strong pressure especially if the results are not as expected. However, it is highly recommended not to make loans for gambling because often it will be difficult to stop from these activities if the first time it goes well so we think that borrowing will be an alternative to continuing to fund our gambling, by borrowing we can exceed the limit we have set so that later can damage our finances a little.

Depends on ourselves, if we have our own responsibility then it will not be something detrimental. I am going to use myself as example, lets say I took a loan for gambling because I know that I will be able to repay the loan no matter what will be the result in the gambling (win/lose). It is not something wrong or detrimental for me, but it will be something wrong/detrimental if I take a loan while I hope to repay the loan from the gambling (hoping to win). In other words, we should take a look at the case deeper and we should not generalize that all those who take a loan for gambling are all bad. I also do not mean to say that I support taking loan for gambling but of course gambling with our own money that we can afford to lose without taking a loan is obviously better.

What I feel is that - I can't focus on gambling because what is in my mind is worried about where I can get money to pay my loan if I lose them all.  

That is why - if we are going to gamble, it is better not from a loan or borrowed money so we don't care whatever happens to us. Because if we wanted to earn a profit and grow our financial capabilities, gambling isn't the right place to spend on. It is better to start a small business rather than relying on luck in gambling knowing that our chances it very slim.

I have only done that once many years ago and the experience is not good.I played all of them on sport betting trying to win money with low odds only to find out that the amount of bad luck intensifies in a huge way when we are playing with borrowed money,may be not for everyone of us but I am sure the same experience is felt by at least 90% of the gamblers who have done so in the past.It is stupid to borrow money to gamble and it is a sign of addiction which means anyone doing it should ask professional help.The interest rate you will pay it,otherwise with the passing of time it keeps increasing and increasing thus making you more in debt than you already are.

It is because you are not an addict. If you are a gambling addict, all you will be thinking about is that if you borrow, that you will look for more always to earn from gambling and you will be able to pay back the money. But at the end, you will feel sorry for yourself if you borrow the money and after losing it. Anyone that borrow to gamble is a sign of addiction.

Why would I borrow to gamble? I can not do that, it is not possible. I can gamble but not to the extent that I should borrow money. I hardly spend 2% of my salary on gambling, not to talk of borrowing money for gambling.

I can take a loan to address other issues but taking a loan to gamble is not really a call for me also, have seen people especially in my own region placing bets on credit, which I don't think is ideal they always go with the mindset of winning, and the dept keep accumulating and sometimes I blame the betting agents for allowing them to play on credit, playing at your convince with your own money is the best, instead of adding more problems to yourself by loaning to play on dept.

I never used a loan for gambling, it's one of the worst decisions in my opinion you could do in when playing with money. After losing big in a casino, I borrowed a few times 10 Euros from my friends, but that I wouldn't call a loan. For me a loan is a larger sum of money, where we are going to have to pay interest and the repayment is going to take a long period of time. Such a loan should never be used for gambling or other unnecessary items. Taking out a loan should be the last resort when we are faced with difficulties or an emergency, gambling doesn't really count as either of them. The problem with using borrowed money is that you get used to spending more money that you actually own and once you formed a new habit of living above your means it's hard to get rid of it again. If you already lost your own money in gambling, the chances are high that you are going to lose the borrowed money also. In the end you lost everything and still have to pay back the loan with interest for long period of time.

Don't blame the betting agent for the irresponsible behaviour of a gambler who is only chasing to beat the house. Off line game houses give credit to customers who have played with them for some time, they do this because they can trace them to their houses or through their friends but motive to such credit facility is because they know that the possibility of winning is very low. Of course no body wants to give you money when they are sure that using the money against them would cause them losses, so they give it to them. I will blame those gamblers who don't set limits to themselves. As a responsible gambler, you are suppose to have your budget for gambling, your playing limit and days of playing of which when they are exhausted, you should wait for another set time and budget bankroll.

Never tried gambling using borrowed money. And despite not experiencing this, I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone because it screams irresponsibility. If you want to gamble, make sure you are capable. Loaning money just for the sake of having fun or hoping you'll profit when you gamble is an irrational move. You should only risk what you can afford to lose and since you don't even have enough money to begin with, therefore you can't really afford to lose it. It will just bring anxiety and trouble to you if ever things go bad.

Why would you prefer to have something to stressed on when you can only live within your means and be relaxed without fearing you'll lose. It's much more peaceful to spend a spare than to borrow and play so you won't have or at least only have minimal regrets if ever things don't favor you.

     -      It's a bad move to borrow money just to gamble at the casino. And the only one who takes this approach is a gambler with a gambling addiction. And it's not pretty to be honest. If the debt is just a debt, even if you don't gamble, you're only buried in debt, and you're addicted to gambling, so your life will be ruined even more.

And then the person who does this is not in the right mind, imagine they think that if they borrow, they will recover their loss but will only get deeper into debt and will also lead to the limit of lending to a gambler.

Although I haven't taken any loan as of yet but the constant pressure of repaying the loan on time is the first and foremost thing that will bug me all the time.
Losing the money from loan will become a bigger loss and will turn out to be a challenge in repayment and not paying on time will just make it more harder.
I don't like being pressurized and these reasons are enough for me not take any loan ever.

Borrowing for gambling, or any other activity, has its own risks. The interest rate and principal amount make it expensive.

High-ranking users asking for gambling loans may suggest a gambling addiction. If you can't pay for your gambling habit with your normal salary, that's a warning sign. The pleasure of the gamble is one thing, but taking out a loan for it is dangerous.

Increased stress? True. The added stress of debt repayment and the interest rate can affect your gaming, potentially leading to hurried and ill-considered actions. It's a hazardous spiral that everyone should avoid

Using loan to bet on games, definitely not appropriate. Gambling alone with your personal funds is risky, talking about taking a loan and using the money to gamble, ofcourse its entirely on a different league. A gambler can never predict what he or she stands to gain or lose in the space, we just have to gran good entries in the gambling proceeds if we would want to succeed.Gambling with utilizing loan money, very risky. I wouldn't advised anyone to try this, it's absolutely not a financial advise, it will definitely drained a gambler to the last core.

Gambling is form of entertainment so it means there is no guarantee about the financial benefits so let's just put the gambling in the spending category so taking loan and spending the money to buy an expensive food in a 5 star hotel can be compared to it which makes its no sense at all. If you don't have the money to lose on gambling then don't ask money from others to gamble it just double the risk of paying back the loan along with interest.

I guess that those who are naive enough to use loaned money to gamble actually do not think about the interest part you are mentioning here. When someone borrows money with the intention to play some rounds in a casino, do you think that that person does some serious calculations in advance or thinks about the interest rate and how bad it is that the interest rate is essentially to be deducted from the principle the moment the loan is transferred? I think this goes too far considering a mind of a gambler who is determined to spend a loan on gambling.

One thing is very important in gambling that one should never gamble by borrowing money from others or taking a loan from the bank. There is a big risk in this because when you take a loan from any source and gamble, you will not be able to repay the loan if your bet loses. You have to make big bets to repay the loan and you must pay those bets. You must re-borrow to re-bet, in which case you will be at a greater risk of re-borrowing. If you can't repay the loan, you will be bankrupt later.

I had no experience of gambling with borrowed money. All that I lost was only mine. But I know more than one player who played by borrowing from others. This has always only led to more debt. What exactly they experienced during the gameplay, whether they felt additional pressure, I cannot say. But I can say with confidence that after losing the borrowed money, they experienced far from the most pleasant sensations - not at all what they expected. This is for the attention of those who believe that gambling is played for the sake of pleasure. Take my word for it, in gambling, instead of pleasure, it is easy to get suffering. Don't forget the dark side of these games.

Whatever the purpose is, taking a loan is fine as long as we do have good communication with the lender and agreed on the said terms.

We can't control people who want to take a loan to be used for gambling since what if they can afford to pay that loan no matter what? We just have to mind our own business. In an event where these people who took out loan for gambling and are unable to cover it, then they should accept the consequences.

Others are lucky to win big in gambling out from loans. On the other hand, there are unfortunate. That's the reality.

But that is the issue though, if we take loans for gambling and we lost the money, then how can we afford to pay the loans?


And if specially those who take out loans are addicted already, they could do things that we can't imagine that people will do just to continue with their gambling habits. And one of them is not paying the loan on time and just totally hiding from people that they need to pay that sometimes it has a dire consequences to the gamblers as something bad could happen to him.

Yeah!, you're welcome. Let me give you a few examples of what you will feel when you gamble using borrowed money and when you lose. When that happens, you can't be calm in making your decisions, all that is in your head is how to get the money you borrowed back (winning is no longer a goal). As your bankroll continues to drop, the only thing going through your head after that is going All-In, not all of my All-In experiences have ended badly, some have ended well.

Are there really high-ranked members here that are borrowing money in order to gamble? This doesn't make sense unless someone is in a hurry for a big promotion with good odds of winning or taking a bonus.

However, in land-based casinos, I heard about and even tried to finance with a friend so we could start small lending offering money to those regular players in the casino. Of course, there will be collaterals like watches, jewelry, motorbikes, or even cars. The loans are also short-term they should be payable in days, a few weeks, or within a month. My venture didn't work well though but I know it exists here in my country which is ridiculous but most of them if not all are rich people.

In my opinion, I think it is pretty insane and risky if gamblers are taking loans to fund their gambling activities, the risk is huge as the chances to lose all of the money within a few minutes in a casino is possible whenever a bad streak starts. If the situation were to happen, the gamblers would be in deep financial problem as they would need to repay all of the money loaned to them within a certain period of time.

Taking a loan will give you a lot of headaches, you are taking a loan because you don't have money to gamble, and if you lose from gambling you will take a loan again that is two times the first loan so you can pay the half and play half of it so you can get back what you've loss in your first loss, its a vicious cycle and that's exactly what happen, he find himself having debts to a lot of people because he has no money to play and he chase his losses to pay his loan.
If you don't have money don't gamble and worse don't ever take a loan.

If you think there's no difference between using loan money or money for fun in gambling, you can imagine what was your feeling when you bought something via credit and when you bought something via cash. Is there no difference? when you're buy something via credit, your monthly wage will deducted with the amount you need to pay the monthly installment. When you don't have any installment, you can use that money for saving or invest.

To be honest, until now, I personally did not dare to play gambling using money from loans, be it those that have interest (banks), or those that do not have interest. Because in my opinion this is too risky, especially if you borrow a fairly large amount of money, the tension and risks that must be faced will be even greater. So I'd rather play gambling, with just the minimum money I have, no need to have too big ambitions, let alone to borrow money. Because as you said, "that the gamble has not started, but the money has decreased", that is indeed true.
Therefore, to play gambling, I avoid borrowing money at all. Maybe you could say I, too timid with the name of borrowing money. But in my opinion, this should always be avoided as much as possible in the field of gambling or in other fields. Because minimizing risk, for me is very important, including playing gambling too.

Its not an ideal move if you are just a person who are not capable to pay those loan, for example you are a person just earning enough of money and want to play gambling and last resources you can choose is taking a loan, but unexpected things happen so you cant pay the debt we know the loan does takes a additional interest every time you cant paid you will get past due that cause additional things you need to pay, but if you are a person who have a lot of asset and taking loan is the deal to satisfy your gambling activity its just okay because you have a good cashflow could pay the debt but if not better stop wondering that and earn additional money for your gambling habit.

Haha, tag it whatever you like, but people are doing it (I agree with you, and I also think that it is a very dumb act). I also agree with the OP that some ranked-up members here do such things. For one guy I know outside the forum, he has done it several times. @OP, What about those people who even sell some of their assets to gamble? Is that not madness? But if they win huge, it will not really be called madness, but the person will now be seen as a risk undertaker (Maybe that's the experience). Other than that, there is no good experience about betting with loaned money;  instead, the person might even be more pressured to gamble at a loss.

Gambling by taking a loan is one of the biggest mistakes that one can make in their entire lives, it can become the starting point of your life getting ruined, you might get out of if you get into gambling addiction, but you cannot get out of the loans once you start taking them to gamble because they just keep piling up, you lose the first one, you take another one from somewhere else only to repay the first one and have some extra cash to gamble, and that continues.

Never in my life, I've seen a person who got success by taking a loan and gambling with it, and managed to repay the loan by winning a significant amount from gambling, it never happens, because gambling is not a business for gamblers, it is a business for casino owners and they are the ones who will profit all the time but not us gamblers.

It's the worst thing that you would be doing. Never gamble if you cannot afford to gamble.  What happens when you lose the money that you borrowed for gambling? How are you going to pay that money back since you already have nothing? Will you be borrowing more money to gamble and pay your debts? You will be stuck in this cycle forever and this is going to make your life unbearable. You might end up doing things that you thought you would never do for the money...

Never gamble what you can't afford to lose. Gambling should never be considered as your source of income. Only gamble for fun and consider the profits as a form of reward that is "optional".

Those who gamble using borrowed money are creating their own time bomb, it's just a matter of time and it will destroy them. Let alone gambling using borrowed money, gambling using money for other needs is not something I would even think of doing. The reason is that it will trouble us later even though logically it is our personal money.
Just like you, I've also never met a gambler who gambled on borrowed money, then they were able to pay it off and get more money that would later become their personal money.
Good point you made about the business, it is their business.

Such is the difference. We must keep paying loan money to credit cards or people who lend us money. And that has happened to people a lot because they think they can win by borrowing money, but the opposite is that they lose. Never borrow money to gamble because we don't know what the outcome will be and if it turns out to be a loss, we have to repay the loan money. And if we don't have the money to pay, we will be billed by that person and it will be difficult to pay.

Honestly here in my country I'll experience this kind of situation that I'll make a loan from my friend of mine and I used that money to bet in a cock fight which is pretty known ij my country. And then I'll bet and use that money then I'll loss and loss  then when that pay time has come and I don't have enough money to pay because I have a family to feed them I realize that using a loan money to gamble is not a good habits as we all know that once we don't have our luck in our side then all we get is losses.

Gambling with loans from friends is not too risky as there is no interest to be paid on the loan.  But when someone starts gambling with a loan from an organization or a bank, it can be a very dangerous experience form for him. Gambling with loans is risky so no smart person should do it. a healthy person would never do this. this can only be done by those who are deeply addicted to gambling. I never think that gambling with loan money can be a good experience for anyone.  It will be a temporary good experience for him who has good luck and can win in gambling

I agree with you here, but some people get careless with loans since it feels like you're playing with someone else's money. Loan can give some people a sense of freedom, like the risk is lower because you aren't losing anything. A day before you didn't have that money and now you do.
Some of them feel like it's an easy way to make money for free. You take a loan, bet it, win and pay the loan back, pocketing the profit. It really looks this simple for many of these players, until they lose it all and the reality hits them in the face like a brick.

In fact, it is not uncommon for gamblers to be tempted to seek or obtain loans just to channel their desire to gamble. after getting loan funds, we usually have high enthusiasm to carry out game sessions. in fact, not a few also had the belief that today we would win. then, pay the loan directly along with the interest. this sense of optimism is present, when we do not have a penny of funds for gambling. therefore, not a few are looking for loans to fulfill their desire to gamble. although some of us are reluctant to borrow and only choose when we have our own funds.

As you said, borrowed money can provide a sense of freedom, because at first we really didn't have the capital to carry out gambling sessions. if lucky, we get a win even repay the loan and have extra money to do the next betting session. but unfortunately, if what we plan is not in accordance with the expected scenario. which in the end, we lose everything and face reality like being hit by a brick with new problems faced to pay the money we have borrowed. ah sometimes it's funny, if I remember the past, I experienced this in the era of land casinos. uniquely, I made it a very memorable and meaningful experience to date. therefore, we do not recommend borrowing money just to fulfill the desire to gamble.

Unfortunately, your experience is all too prevalent in the world of gambling. The two dont really go together like... well, you know.

To begin, remember that gambling is inherently a game of chance. There are methods and strategies to increase your chances of winning, but in the end, the house always wins. This is how gambling establishments make a profit. To believe you can cheat this system, especially with borrowed funds, is, well, optimistic, to put it mildly. And if you go bust, you'll be out more than just your chips; you'll be in the red as well. A double whammy, if you will.

Gambling is enjoyable, even thrilling, but only if you're risking money you can afford to lose. Not with borrowed money that could cause financial disaster if lost. Keep your love of gaming alive, but always gamble responsibly

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Just dont do it, NO, a BIG NO!.

- But Ogami, why, "I found a good way to make profit with it

Well,

No bet is 100%, if you lose you will have less money than when you started, even if you had 0 it would not be a debt.
By losing the bet you will owe.

Only gamble with money you can afford to lose.

Value of a pizza, a coke, a cake, a movie at the cinema.

Be responsible, because your life literally depends on it. Your family.

Debts never bring anything good, gamble with responsibility.n.

This is already different level crazyness on gambling but I knew a lot of people selling their assets just to gamble and in fact one of my friend have this kind of business that lending money on IRL casino while they are asking for asset collateral such as car, luxury jewelry and even title of the house which gives him a lot of profit once the borrower defaulted to pay the loan.

Bit I doubt there’s someone here doing this staff since most of us here is well versed on gambling addiction implications.  :D

I think taking loans can be viable strategy if you can really profit a lot through gambling OR loan rates being too low compared to your wage/income increases so you can close down your losses. People are "too" scared of taking loans honestly. Loans are important part of capitalism and they exist for many different reasons. When you take a loan you get money directly to payback later on which can be beneficial if currency is experiencing devaluation. Even USD experiences devaluation nowadays so do not be worried my friends.

I also agree since a person's minds works in different way, others think that gambling with loaned money, they are using the money of other people and do a gambling spree until their balance is depleted then later they will just realized that they were so foolish to ask for a loan when the time comes that they have to pay for it with an interest.



Yeah, that first situation you stated should be a bliss since gambling with other's money, winning and paying back the lender while pocketing the winning amount is a dream like situation but the reality is that it is seldom to happen but rather these people ends up losing the money and paying the debt with interest.

Yeah, I see cases like that, and it's just a common thing with some gamblers. There were some movies I watched back then when I was still a kid, and some men would sell so many properties to gamblers, and by the time they returned home empty-handed without their property, they began to receive a series of questions from their wives and even ended up having issues. I thought it was just in the movies that most of those things could happen, but it's just something that's happening around me even more frequently. Today I decided to visit a nearby casino. Just to my surprise, the cashier was fighting with one of his customers because the guy gambled without paying. Although he gambled there some times and paid, he has not paid for the last one, and the cashier taught him that since he has paid for the other ones, he will still pay for the last one. Unfortunately, he had no money on him again after some arguments, which resulted in a slight fight.

The funny part is that the gamblers never actually feels or know the implications of all this not until they finally gamble away all the money they use in gambling and that's when the feeling of remorse and regret kicks in. Like you said gambling is very risky and dangerous which can collect even the little funds the customer has, and they do go to some extent to even borrow more to gamble.

I am not actually how does it differ from gambling your money for rent etc. In both cases, gambling your rent money and gambling borrowed money you are gambling away money that is budgeted for someone else as in both cases you owe that money. Even if you borrowed directly to gambling, i see using rent money for gambling is perfectly similar to me.

In other case you either lose you collateral, or you might get loan sharks after you. And in other one you might lose your apartment.

This kind of things  also often happens in land-based casino.  I have a friend who is working in a gambling casino and he often witnessed  millionaires selling their cars and other things just to keep their gambling activity.  What surprising is that they are selling them in a very cheap price.  So if someone wanted to buy a very cheap slightly used car or item, they can find it in the lobby of a casino.


If I am not mistaken there are conversations from years ago where someone defaulted due to his gambling addiction, I do not know if he is able to repay it and redeem himself.

I don't like gambling with loans. I have seen some people who gamble with loans. After gambling with loans from banks, they lose money and sell their money editors. Gambling is dangerous.  Money has lost wealth. Be careful before gambling. Do not get addicted to gambling. Gambling should be done at leisure. Gambling should never be greedy.  Many problems will be faced.

Gambling on the loan of a person who is completely addicted to gambling and cannot think about anything else then gambling. Knowing that it is high risk, they do not shy away from it.  Because they think that they can win gambling and earn several times the loan amount in this case he will have no problem paying off the loan. They don't want to accept that no one can guarantee winning in gambling and he can also lose his money by losing gambling.

I have never heard about people borrowing in order to gamble even online. What I always see and witness that people advice is that you should avoid using money from loan to invest in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. This is my first time of understanding that people used to borrow in order to gamble.

I honestly did not think that that is a good idea because you'll be under an external pressure even more than the pressure of the gambling. This means that you will be double pressured and will not make sane predictions anymore.
However in offline casino I have read where a casino agent borrowed a customer money to play more in their casino.

It would be riskier for them if they wanted to gamble using borrowed money. They should be gambling using their own money so that they have no obligation to return the money if they lose. It would be a good choice for him and he could also prevent the trouble that could arise if he borrowed money to gamble. Apart from that, he can also gamble calmly and not think too much about getting a win.

When I think those who take loan to gamble have one excuse and that is if they don't have any money to gamble. Now their argument is that if we do not have any money how can we gamble and try our luck.

So these people will take loan and hope they will win in gambling and then they will return the loan and keep the profit with them. They know it is risky for them to play with the loan money but they have no other option.

I don't understand why the people who do not have money to gamble think that they are the luckiest people and they want to try their luck?

I know someone who did this, after using his own money to gamble and lost everything he start going around to loan money from different people, thinking he is one step closer to become a millionaire, why can't gamblers ever learn? You lost everything you had and your brain is still working dead, you don't know that you did something wrong that's why you lost all that money.

This person ended up getting arrested multiple times because he failed to pay back all the people he borrowed money from, he is a well respected person and people never thought he is into gambling, this how cruel gambling can be, I don't how who teach him about gambling that he became so obsessed with gambling.

Now he is regretting his decisions as he is not out of the debt till today, he have to work everyday and pay back what he owe, the only money that remains on him is for food only, imagine that kind of life.

I will always advice against taking loan or borrowing money to invest in anything or the worst part, gambling.

What makes you think they borrow money to gamble?

I don't think that forum members borrow money to gamble. In my opinion they need money for other purposes. To be honest I think that most forum members are educated enough to realize that gambling on borrowed money is a very stupid thing to do. One of the rules of gambling says that gambling should be played only on free money, which is not sorry to lose. Adhere to this rule and share it with someone you care about.

Like Oshosondy already mentioned, using a borrowed money gamble is nothing but pure stupidity, and it becomes pure madness if you take a loan and the your sole reason for taking that loan is gamble and playing sports betting with it.
Although we all have our personal strength and weaknesses, there are many who will borrow for whatever reason and feel very comfortable and relaxed even when the payment date for that loan is approaching and they have not raised the money or even have any means of raising the money.

But for my kind of person, it is directly the opposite, one of my biggest weakness is owing some person somewhere money, it doesn't matter what that i borrowed was used for, but as long as I haven't paid it, I hardly have rest of mind, now, imagine I borrow money from someone and use the money to gamble, and then lose the money in the process, that will be suicide, i will never try such, its nothing but stupidity.

I haven't taken a loan just to gamble, but for sure, those who do it are really out of their minds and just keep thinking of winning so that they can pay back their loan. This is really difficult because you are pressured to make sure you'll win because if not, you'll have a hard time paying it back. Also, I dont want to experience this because, for me, it is very stressful, and I don't want to know how stressful it is. Just imagine if you lose 80% of your money that you borrowed. I don't know what kind of mindset you'll have.

If they don't have money, it's better not to gamble. That is the right argument for them so they don't have to bother borrowing money from other people. It can also prevent them from problems arising after they finish gambling.

But they don't think about that and keep borrowing money from other people to gamble. And it turns out it's true. Many have experienced defeat to the point of spending all their borrowed money. They already understand the risk but still take it, and now, it's up to them to deal with the borrower. People with no money borrow money to gamble because they think that by gambling, they will have money and be able to pay off the debt. But that's not the way because we can't always win in gambling.

There is always risk in gambling but if gamble with loan money there is extra interest added to the principal which is extra stress for the gambler. A gambler should definitely avoid such habits. There are many gamblers who have won big with borrowed or loan money but if someone else thinks the same way then there is a possibility of big loss because in gambling no one knows how much luck will favor him. It will totally depend on the person what he actually wants to do. If he feels that he has sufficient means to repay the loan even if he loses, then he will not have too much trouble if he gambles with loaned money.

Wanting to play gambling by way of debt is a very fatal mistake. Because in my opinion, you can pay off debts through gambling when you are given a jackpot/win, but what is certain is that one day you will come back, you keep playing, and when you lose, you will succeed. the decision to borrow again. it could be that you even dare to owe more than before, and in the end, you will lose.

I say this because I have experienced it before. I once owed money to play gambling and once Maxwin. I thought it was enough to pay off all the debts I borrowed from friends, but it was not enough to cover all my debts due to gambling. And in the end, I played the rest of Maxwin again to find another win, but instead, I lost in the end I couldn't pay off my debt. But fortunately, I quickly realized this mistake, until now I can control myself while gambling. Sometimes the mistakes we make in the past become lessons for the future. So, as much as possible avoid debt to play gambling, this is tantamount to trading. It has high risk. So be wise in managing finances for a better future. Gamble smart.

It does not seem practical to use money from loans in gambling. Just imagine the risk of losing the money you borrowed, how will you cover up and pay for those loans? Typically, this will be a repeating cycle until you go bankrupt from debts.

There is this one instance in which one of my relatives is asking for money, which we also suspect he will only use for gambling. It is much better not to tolerate this act because it will only be a cycle for him. Loan over loan just to cover up his losses.

It is a very bad experience.If you get involved in gambling as well as not doing anything by borrowing money, you will understand the news that this will increase exponentially when you start to lose money.When you play with borrowed money, you will go step by step towards losing and resetting the money because sometimes or usually you will not make healthy decisions because you will bet with that money in different emotions. For this reason, I don't gamble with borrowed money, I don't even shop. If anyone gambles with borrowed money, I think it increases the risk of losing 2-3 times in my opinion. I would not be able to handle this stress, which is important here, not the size / amount of money.

Gambling is about predicting and there are gamblers who are very confident that they can win. Well, it can happen for real sometimes if they are lucky but if not then they will still lose. Even without loans, many of us are already problematic so how much more if we have them right? Winning can only cause a temporary happiness. We shouldn't get deceived by it because there is still a chance that we can play gambling again and use all the money that we previously won. It could be fine if you already paid your outstanding loans before the tragic event happens. Don't be like the gamblers that I heard sharing their same horrible stories.

I saw how people take loans for gambling as well, online and in real life. We have many topics on the forum about loans, but everything comes down to simple things, and it's about how simple and easy is to take a loan for anything, but the problem appears when a loan needs to be repaid. So before taking a loan for anything people needs to have a plan and a backup plan if needed to repay the loan.

I took many loans in my life, for all sorts of things, and I never had problems with repaying. I guess that once in a while, every person gets in some situation that asks for extra cash, it's simply life for most of us... but taking a loan for fun without any plan for how to return it (or relying on some luck to be able to return the loan) will most likely lead to some bad things.

Let me tell you the kind of mindset that person would have , the mindset to borrow more again and this time he will not gamble to even win big, his target will be to actually secure the previous loan that he took and before you know it he will be all tangled up in a web of series of loans. Gambling is an habit that's one need not to plan about, it should be actually schedule as fun activities.

You've managed your loans well; congratulations! It requires discipline and fiscal responsibility. However, the case is not the same for everyone. The rush of borrowing money, especially for non-essential purposes like gambling, often brings along a complacency where the borrower believes luck will sort things out.

People need to understand that loans are financial tools, not tickets to a free money gala. They should be used strategically, like for investments that can generate returns, not for ephemeral pleasure activities that leave them in debt. This is where financial education plays a crucial role. People need to learn not just how to borrow, but how to use and repay their loans efficiently.

Loans are really helpful services that are available for the common man to meet unexpected needs. As said when we use it for the right need then loan is really a problem solver. It have got additional things to be considered, particularly the interest repayment, collateral and other necessary documentation. However when we take a loan to fulfill another need with perfect calculation it gives us the way to go and keeps us running. When we finish a loan the satisfaction of achieving and settling the loan makes us much happier. I've experienced it, but the same for gambling is like making ourselves get into the trap.

If this is direct question to me, my reply is that I don't know what it feels like to use loaned money for gambling activities. I think it is an extreme sport. However, I have used loaned money to set up a business. I repaid the loan not with the profit from the business but from my side income.

There will be, I don't know but not on everyone because some gamblers can play understand such pressure. And I don't know they all rely on the winnings from the game to pay back the loaned money..

Gambling using borrowed money is highly not recommended, because we cannot be sure that our game will be profitable or not. If our game is good, maybe we will be able to return the money we borrowed along with the interest, but if the game is not good, it means that we have to pay off the debt with interest and at the same time bear the loss from defeat.
Moreover, people who gamble using borrowed money tend to be impatient and they will be trapped in a cycle of debt to finance their gambling. And because of that, gambling using borrowed money is not recommended.

It depends on the borrower's capacity. Based on my personal experience, I once gambled using borrowed funds, but I didn't feel the pressure during actual gambling because I knew that even if I lost, I would still be able to repay my loan. However, it's not advisable for borrowers who are not realistic or those who do not understand the risks involved in gambling. Some might borrow money because they believe in the phrase 'sure win' and think they'll be able to repay the loan easily. As for me, I have matured enough and learned from my experience.

Regardless of where the money comes from – whether it's from your salary, income from a business, or a loan – it's still the same money you're risking. What's important is that as a gambler and borrower, we have to be responsible at all times to avoid facing any problems in the end.

Simply put, if you are going to gamble, make sure it is your money plus you have a money in case of emergency. Because making money out of gambling is not consistent and sustainable in the long run and long term basis. What will happen if you lose all your borrowed money? How are you going pay for it? Are you going to borrow again from another lender, risk it all again until you make a win? And then you created a loop for you to be get in a big debt. It will be like you're only living for the sake of gambling. Well I guess, that's an awful way to live.

There’s always an exception to this. Loan money is only not good if you don’t have the capability to repay it on time. People like me that rely on salary that given every 5th and 20th of the month find loan very helpful because it can give me the money to use now instead of waiting for the payday.

I don’t do this gambling using loan money but I always purchased using my credit cards  and pay for the small interest if I need the items now since we can’t fast forward time while we can repay borrowed money.

It’s same on gambling if you want to play now while your payday still far away. There’s just some involved here when you become addicted but we are assuming on this discussion that you are a normal gambler that just ask loan for gambling.

once I did this ( but with small amount from a classmate since we are still in college those days)
trust me mate, the feeling is doubled , the pressure , the risk , the expectation and the frustration once you lose.

this is why I never do the same thing since that day and will never do that forever.

Yeah , seeing in Lending section that some members are wanted to directly send to their gambling site accounts , and also wanted to hear from them as it is something important to be an advise for other gamblers.

I'm not sure how many times I did it, but it was only a handful, more or less than three if I'm not mistaken. The pressure is neutral because I have the opportunity to pay whether I win or lose during that period. It's a different story if I'm not, which, of course, I'm not going to do. I'm not going to plunge myself into the abyss. As they usually say, only gamble with money you can afford to lose.

What triggers you to take out a loan? I mean, I'm just curious because even I only take out a loan if I don't have a choice and am in need of money for those important things, but you kind of just decided on that day to take out a loan. Or have you thought of it for a couple of days? Yes, part of it is that you can pay it off, but are you having second thoughts before taking a loan just for gambling?

I do believe that before anybody can have the mind of borrowing money to gamble, he or she is thinking that he might win to pay back the loan and have more profits, hope you get my point? I can't say that the gambler is playing for fun because he is very respirate for either the winning, sometimes what causes this things are selfishness, wanting to get money with all potentials, people who uses this strategy loses and they owe all around their neighborhood

I have never been in such a position myself, but I can share a bit about the experience of a coworker who once resorted to gambling with borrowed money.

My colleague, who had a severe gambling addiction, made me ponder the thought that those willing to borrow money just to gamble must be individuals truly devoid of any resources and utterly enslaved by this vice. When I asked him, "Why do you do this?" he replied, "I need a substantial sum of money urgently."

I found myself perplexed by his mindset, as he viewed gambling as a lucrative source of income. This starkly contrasts with my perception, which sees gambling as mere entertainment. He once experienced a significant win from gambling, and perhaps, that single moment drove him to relentlessly pursue a repeat occurrence. Consequently, he ended up putting several valuable assets at stake. I worry about what could happen if he eventually starts a family; it raises concerns for the well-being of his future small household.

To all of you who are addicted to gambling and have depleted your assets, I strongly advise against forcing yourselves into debt in pursuit of fleeting fortune.

Yes, before that person decides to borrow money, they must think, what if I borrow money? Of course, I can win some money and return it. But that's not what happened because many people have lost all their loan money at the gambling table without being able to pay the money back. They are too eager to win a lot of money so they try to bet big money but the result is against them. This is where someone's selfishness can turn against him and cause him to lose money at the gambling table. If we don't want to experience the same thing, we don't need to borrow money to gamble and are better off using our own money.

I am not really a fan of loaning, even though i really need a money or there is something I wanna buy, I wont borrow money for it but instead i will save money and wait until I have enough money to afford that thing, what more if you are going to gamble the money that you have borrowed, this is is really a dumb thing that people doing especially those addict, and I think people with good and normal thinking wont do that thing, online those gambling addict will do.
The worst part of this is whether you lose or win you still have to pay the money with interest and that makes it more problematic especially if you lose.

so the bottomline is? never borrow money if you are just gonna use it for gambling because the assurance is a little , and also if you will be honest to the person you are going to borrow? surely they will not lend you a penny (though there are some people or businesses that has lending for gambler but has collateral )
so never borrow to gamble thats the main point.

Gambling addict don't think this way, you are talking like this because you understand the risks, many gambling addicts don't think or understand the risk  and they can go to any lengths to take a bet because all what they will be taking in their mind is they're going to win,  if a gambler sets his mind on the winning side only he is at risk of losing everything and such Gambler may turn into an irresponsible gambler because no matter how good your calculation is you must always think about the other part, every good things have its disadvantages so do not think about the positive side only think about the negative side too and always prepare for both sides.

That is true for gambling addicts and even people who borrow money to play as that is an aggressive form of addiction in my opinion.However a gambler cannot think otherwise as if he goes and places a bet with the losing mentality that he will not get a win he would not gamble at all in the beginning,it is exactly because of this that hope is at the highest level before placing a bet in a gambler mindset and it is true that they don't think about the consequences.If they thought about them they would sit down and think calmly which would lead them to quit gambling for good.The real bad moment is when he realizes that now he has even lost a borrowed amount and his debt has increased further,depends on what he does on this moment that decides his fate,if he quits good for him (at least quits borrowing money) and if he continues bad for him.

Yes man exactly, people who borrowed money to gamble they have different thought at that point when they are gambling, but on my observations I checked, I noticed that this gambling have one spirit that when lossing you will increase your stake to get back that money you have lost then when you start winning you rollover, and this rollover has caused much lost in gambling world.

I am strongly against any loan activities, either using loan to invest or do stupid things I don't care because loan or borrowing money is like a road to downfall for me, I have done it in the past and it never worked well, when I ask questions from my family I learned that it's a bad thing even in the family, I am saying this because it's weird.

I am one of the few that have this going on in their lives, if I take loan for anything, it won't end well, it's either I end up in debt and find it hard to pay up or everything I use the money for will collapse, at first I thought it's spiritual attack, but why things work better for me when I use my own hard earned money? This is why I believed what my parent told me, because it has happened to them and they never tell a soul until I told them about what I was going through.

Now how can someone in their right sense go out and get a loan for gambling? There is no way anyone can tell me that they know what's gonna happen with gambling, only dic*head gamblers who don't know how risky gambling is will do such stupid thing, it's not even as if they don't know how risky it is, they stupidly believe that they will always win, the thoughts in the mind sometimes can ruin people.

Is the person out of his mind??? That's unthinkable to me, how would I stoop so low to the point of borrowing money to gamble? That's a high level of irresponsibility, and no amount of financial desperation should have triggered that if the person is with his right sense. Gambling with your money is risky, talkless of gambling with loaned money. Meaning that there are further obligations to pay more interest on the borrowed funds after you must have lost the money in which the probability that you will lose it is very higher. That is senseless!

An intelligent person will never consider doing that in the first place and they also avoid many risks in order to save themselves from major problems in the future. Those people that are mostly deluded are just wanted to play even if they don't have anything to fund their bad habit anymore which most likely ended up in a bad way just like the news I watched years ago where the suspect free fire in Casino because he lost everything and ended up taking loans which in the end he won't able to pay it anymore.

We have our own reasons why we're taking a loan. Regardless of where you'll use the money, as long as you are responsible to repay it on time, then I don't see any problem.

However, using a borrowed money to sustain your gambling activity is not advisable. Why do you have to take a loan when you can use your own money to gamble? The interest that you have to pay aside from the capital is an additional struggle since you're not certain if you can double the funds to pay the lender. Though this not an issue if you're not really counting on your winnings and has other resources to repay the borrowed money. But again, if there's other option, opt not to take a loan just to gamble.

lets try to take the positive side of what happened. we consider gambling as your lunch and at that moment you need money to eat but the salary money from your job has not been distributed and you are forced to borrow money from other people to buy lunch and return the loan after you receive your salary.
another example is when you want to go to a place of entertainment with friends to drink beer but you dont have money and are forced to borrow money and repay it after you receive your salary.

so its pretty easy, there no reason for someone to look for a loan just to gamble, because in life we need to have fun, even though we have to think about more important things, but entertaining ourselves is necessary as long as we are responsible and with a small amount without exceeding the predetermined limit.

Gambling credit is a very bad idea, because if player lose, the he will get a lot of problems. And if you have to play with borrowed money, then this means that the player has lost all the money available for this and is now trying to find more money to win, but this is always a bad idea. In gambling, you need to rely only on your own money, otherwise it will always lead to problems.

The only acceptable excuse I could think of this it would be if someone wanted to gamble but forgot his money or does not have cash to play with, so asking for money in that situation does not sound as bad, since there is collateral (the very own money the person forgot).

There is a reason some casinos actually give credit to some of their best and more reliable gamblers, because it is convenient for the business they keep on gambling and also, the casino staff themselves have witnessed there is enough liquidity to give a loan, in the form of total wager.

You're right, it's a terrible idea to gamble in the first place with koan money, debts and selling of properties would be the possibleend results. Taking out loans to place wagers on games is not an advantageous concept; it will almost certainly result in debt, financial difficulties, and account closing down. Gambling benefitted only the persistent and prudent, not the avaricious, because they would always have a chance to incur losses from the system. Most gamblers are motivated by hope and ambition to wager on games with borrowed money in the hopes of repaying it and profiting twice as much.

People usually ask us for collateral if we want to borrow money from them. Unless that person is someone we know closely, like a friend or relative. But very few people want to lend their money to other people, friends, or relatives to play gambling. They definitely won't want to give us their money to gamble. They already know the consequences or impacts that can occur if we use their money to gamble.

It won't always work. When we are too eager to recover losses, we might lose because we forget to control ourselves and will keep trying to earn it. And if it's borrowed money, we won't remember having to pay it back. After playing gambling, we only know that all the money is gone and we must return the loan money. It is our responsibility as borrowers and the person who lent the money doesn't want to know how we can return the money.

But in real life, some people borrow money to gamble because they think gambling is a fast way to make money. And they are used to borrowing money from other people to gamble because they can find people willing to lend money. People who borrow money from others only think about gambling because that's all they can do. They could use the money to do something else, like set up a small business to make a profit.

Either you borrow money or you are using your own funds for gambling, the gambler will always have positive thoughts of winning the game. There is no gambler that will stake on a game and put it in his mind that he will not win the game if not he wouldn't bet on that game. That's why it is the dumbest thing for a gambler to borrow funds for gambling and thinks that he will win and pay back his loan. Most times our games result turns out the other way from our thought and one will loss. Greed and addiction is what makes such people borrow money for gambling and at the end of the loss,they will regret their actions.

Yes I get your point… anyone that can take a loan to gamble will have the intention of winning, how will you know that you are going to lose then you will still go ahead to take a loan to gamble with, it’s not possible. But we all have to know that gambling is not what we should take a loan for, you are just predicting and you are not even sure if you are going to win, anything that makes you take a loan to gamble then you are making a wrong decision already, we should know that no matter how professional you are, then it might be the day which you decided to take a loan to gamble, that’s when you are going to lose, so it’s better we avoid going for loan to make money to gamble and having the intention to pay back if we win. Just have a rethink about it, what after gambling and you end up losing, how are you going to pay back the loan which you took.

It’s not possible for you to take a loan to gamble and you will still claim you are gambling for fun, how are you gambling for fun with the amount you get from loan? It’s very obvious that the person is gambling just to make money, which the person might end up regretting his/her actions later, gambling shouldn’t be taken as a source of income, and nobody should go to the length of taking loan just because they want to gamble.

it is part of the critical mindset of a gambler who views gambling as a place where multipliers borrow money from other people in the hope that it can be doubled in gambling on the one hand it is also supported by the level of addiction or even chasing previous losses.
such a critical mindset is very misleading because how is it possible that gambling can give him a win on the one hand it is a business to benefit the casino owner and also he has to bear the risk if the money is lost or lost in gambling. I know maybe most of them just use borrowed money to bet on sports betting which has a bigger chance of winning than casino games but lucky or unlucky is still a major factor in gambling.
so if a gambler borrows money to bet a large amount in the hope of doubling it I think the person is a bit of a fool, except he borrows every now and then a few months just for fun and certainly a small amount.

Your experience with debt and its ill effects sounds challenging, and I empathize with you. But let's be objective; are loans inherently bad, or is it just how they're used that causes problems? Loans, at their core, are monetary instruments. The efficiency of any tool is proportional to the skill of its user. Loans, when handled properly, may be a great way to get ahead or keep a firm afloat through rough times. Gambling with borrowed funds is a another matter. Gambling's risk profile is distinctive from those of other investing options. You put your finger on the problem, saying that gambling with borrowed money is risky because of its volatility and unpredictability. The loan itself was not the issue; rather, it was the money being gambled away

I saw that too, where they give their stakes account address. In which means that the borrower is playing gamble coming from the loan He borrowed from darkstar. And I had seen it several times, they are many actually not one only.

Well, its their choice anyway, even they do that in the end they never forget their responsibility as a borrower to darkstar. In short they are still responsible for what they owe to lender.

For me to make loans and use them for gambling, even though the bet has an above average 90% chance, for me it is the worst action and has a high risk, I often make loans but not for gambling, honestly I think loans for gambling are stupid, if I do.

I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never used borrowed money for this. No matter how great we are at gambling, the risk of loss cannot be predicted, for that I often use side money to gamble, so I haven't tried it and I don't have experience using loans for gambling. maybe i never used and crossed my mind to do it.

Same thoughts, it's a plain stupid move.I can compare it to people who take loans for their cryptocurrency investment which is similar to gambling if we talk about the risk. It should be a standard to use our own money that is dedicated for gambling than loaning to just play gambling. I hate people who sells things, borrow money or spend the money allocated to an important thing just to so gambling even with the intention of playing safe to multiply the money. I'm sure many gamblers had experience this and I don't want new gamblers to experience the regret that other gamblers experienced.

There is no problem in taking loans when you know you have a job and you are expecting your salary which can be used to repay the loan with the interest added on it, but it is a problem if you don't even have a job and want to take a loan that too for gambling just thinking that you will repay the loan once you win something from gambling which is never guaranteed and you can lose the money you have borrowed and then you won't be able to repay the loan.

I've seen a lot of people doing this, they have taken loans to gamble with it hoping that they might get something significant out of it and then they will repay the loan but it always went the other way and they've lost the money they've borrowed and then got stuck with the loan having no way to repay it.

It was the right decision where we could gamble with only reserve money, no need to borrow money to gamble even though we are great at gambling, because one day we might lose and be unlucky, your decision was right not to take steps to borrow money, me too I never felt like that where one day I lost and wanted to borrow money from my friend, but unfortunately I canceled it because I thought I would lose in a row so it was no longer convincing to win.

Stop playing gambling when losing is a true victory where we can control ourselves not to continue the game, most players who have become addicts they will borrow money to continue the game and try to find luck to get the money back that has been lost and lost, that is the way who is wrong to play with risk

I know in the past there were people who got so addicted to gambling that they used to borrow money to gamble. But this is not a good sign at all I think completely risky because when a person bets with credit if he loses he loses the entire money. And if he can't pay back the borrowed money, the lenders can put a lot of pressure on his family. So no one should be advised to gamble with debt as it may have a completely opposite reaction. There are people who gamble by borrowing money from the bank or at profit and if he bets this money, he can never be sure whether he will win or lose. If the bet wins then that is his luck and if the bet loses then the person will be destitute as he will have no money to repay the debt. So a person should not be advised to gamble so that he gambles with debt rather he must gamble with his hard earned money so that it will be good for that person to bet.

I think borrowing money and putting it into gaming is very dangerous. I am strongly oppose this. Because lone always creat extra presser. When we will involve gambling with loan money then extra presser will creat and we will loss our total fund. Because excessive pressure makes it difficult to make right decision. When we unable to take right decision then we will lose from the gambling. So my strongly advice do not take money for the gambling. If possible invest your own money it will help to wine from gambling. I couldn’t tell gambling is bad but i am telling to invest your own money it will free you from extra presser and your wining chance will increase.

The worst thing is that they are chasing the previous defeat while the spare money is not there as a result borrowing is their solution to keep playing this has become a very severe addiction because it directs all means with loans to continue playing so it must be avoided and those of us who feel must realize that it is a big enough risk.

Never force while there is still more money then it becomes a pleasure in gambling, but forcing, for example, 50% of monthly income to gamble then it is also wrong because it is too aggregative on gambling rather than other interests.

even if it's from the money his work makes, it also has a certain percentage worth betting on. if the gambler risks all the money he earns from 1 week of work, it will only make it difficult for him to make ends meet for one week.
still, gambling must be done by people who are already financially strong. so they gambled with money that would not affect his finances even if he lost the game. if forced to borrow to continue the game, then the gambler must have collateral to be prepared to pay the debt if it turns out that he loses the game.

There is nothing that makes sense in gambling with the money you borrow. For someone to borrow money to gamble, I think that person has already been addicted to gambling, which means that they don't have the work they are doing to rely on gambling. If not, why would someone borrow money to gamble since they don't have the money to gamble? What if you lose all the money you have borrowed without winning a single ticket? How will that person's situation be? I believe these types of people will get themselves into a different situation with the owner of the funds.


How did you know they deposited the money into their gambling account? Seriously,  I don't believe what you said.

IMHO, it feels like that you need to grind and should think that you shouldn't run out of luck because you need to pay for it. Because if you lose it all then you know what obligation you'll have to pay.

And on the otherhand, you're also optimistic because this is going to be like a free money if ever you win and hit the jackpot. The reality will make the situation not too complicated because we all know that who does that have to pay for both loan and interest.  ;D

Indeed, taking out loans for gambling is just plain foolish and really stupid to be honest. You're essentially borrowing money that you will most likely lose and it can put you in a worse financial situation. People should avoid taking loans to gamble since there's no guarantee of making money from it. Personally, I would only consider taking out loans when I urgently need some money and I ensure that I can repay it on an agreed-upon date with the lender.

Aikidoka, your perspective is absolutely correct. Taking out loans for gambling can be dangerous and unwise. However, some individuals might feel pressured by their situation or internal circumstances, leading them to make risky decisions. It's important to remember that the issue of gambling addiction can be complex and involve not only financial aspects but also psychological and emotional factors. Warnings and constructive financial management recommendations are important to prevent such situations.

Having a job could never be a valid collateral unless if you do take up some loan on some person you do know or close to you on which it does give out that kind of assurance but if you are really that trying out to loan with

some lending firms then it wont really be that a valid thing on depending or relying with your job alone but if the amount that would be taking up some loan would be just that small or would really be that considerable in bracket on how much you do earn then there might be some reconsideration.Usually lending firms or banks would really be that looking for another source of income like asset generating or business or investment that you do have on which it would really be giving out that assurance that you could pay up specially if we do talk about big loans on here. Even though on smaller ones then its still not that worth on doing so because
having some gambling activity for those small loans will still be considered as loan totally since you would be paying up for some interest.

If you are that someone who do have that sufficient income or source for your daily living and expenses, then it would really be that a bad thing or idea on dealing up with something
which you would be potentially be spending up more money with it which its never been that ideal nor really be worth.

Why did you make a post on it when you knew it's been discussed almost on every angle already?? ... Well, I'll leave that for you to give an answer.
Apparently, the pressure is usually real - especially when you utilize a loan that was issued by strong agencies - your butt's really gonna be hurting at the very moment the cash vanishes into thin air...
I don't seriously see any reasons why someone in Thier right senses would conceive such an idea... Is it safe to say that they're sometimes driven by a strong urge of addiction??

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Maybe they've included a note that it's from a casino's address, who knows.

But if someone is seeing like that for real, just don't copy what they do and they know themselves better and you know yourself as well better than anyone else.

If you think that's going to ruin you financially, don't borrow money to fund your gambling deeds. Whether you can pay off on time, well, it's your determination to do so.

I never pray for a day to come that will push me to borrow money to gamble, I will play willingly and peaceful mind with the available balance I have on me and not with the money I don't have to the leangth of taking loan because I will never have peace of mind to use that money wisely. Theere will be high pressure mounted on me on the part not to do mistake and how to repay the loan without losing the game and situations like, I am bound by faith to always lost. I'm not lucky with this kind of games when it comes to gambling with the money that was never mine.

It possible that the guy who requested for the loan probably had an alternative to pay back the loan and I think the high rank account or person behind the account has work they are doing in the forum else, they wouldn't grant the loan in the first place. Having signature is like having a way to earn while making quality post would be able to payback such kind of loan with ease and time, so I think they are just using those money to pass time with gambling.

It's an interesting topic, but I don't think we can see any variety of responses here - it seems obvious to me that people are under extra pressure when they play with borrowed money. Naturally, there are some not quite normal people who do not believe that they can lose, so they feel calm until the moment of failure. Playing for borrowed money is extremely bad, but in fact it is a kind of all in - if a player loses, he loses the collateral under which he took out a loan. In fact, this is not much different from the loss of a deposit.

Well, I have never had a reason to gamble with a loan because the only time I do take out loan is when I am in dire need.
Sincerely, I wouldn't advice anyone to do such unless they have done so before and it was favourable or perhaps they have the trickery up their sleeve on how to turn a minus into a plus.

I also think anyone who loans money to gamble more than once is an addict and should at least try to see a therapist, so as to combat this behavior because they would constantly be indebt and be a burden to others around.

It is very different.  If the loan is uncollateralized than it will sink you into debt that is sometimes hard to get out of.  I don't think anyone under any circumstance should take out a loan to gamble.  It might ruin your ability to take out a loan when you really need it for something like a mortgage, car, etc.  If ypu can pay it off fast than just wait until ypu have the money.

^Indeed, gambling with borrowed money can be risky to any one of us, and it is good to exercise caution and restraint.
Your concern about individuals who repeatedly take loans for gambling reflects a thoughtful approach. Persistent reliance on loans for gambling could indeed indicate addictive behavior. Seeking help from a therapist or counselor can be a valuable step in addressing and overcoming such addictive tendencies. It not only helps the individual but also reduces the burden on their loved ones and society at large.
Encouraging discussions like this can raise awareness about the risks associated with gambling with borrowed money so that possible they know the outcomes.

If what this guy(s) you are talking about provided to the lender is an address, how are you able to ascertain and be really sure that the address they provided belongs to stake gambling casino ?, I am asking this because I try to imagine why on earth will anybody borrow money solely to gamble with it..

And again, to put some things in the right perspective, I don't think stake require or have placed any wager requirements from deposits through  tips from other users, I know this because for those of us  who are participating in stake's signature campaign, we get paid through tips into our stake account from the campaign manager, i personally have never had to gamble some part of the bitcoin received before I am allowed to withdraw the rest, I've always been able to withdraw all the bitcoin if I so wish/want .

So if this guys actually received a loan from Darkstar through tip into their stake account, it is possible they can still withdraw it to their private wallet if they want, but the big question is, why didn't they receive the loan in their private wallet directly?..

Borrowing money to gamble would never be recommended because we cannot always win from gambling. And when we lose, we still have to be responsible for repaying the loan, whereas if we don't have anything, we still can't repay the loan. Defeat in playing gambling can occur at any time and playing gambling using our own money will not cause more problems because our money is lost because of gambling and not other people's money.

We recommend that gamblers who are used to having such a mindset change their mindset because, after all, we are just gamblers hoping to win some money. But the casino owner is the owner and he certainly wouldn't want to see the gamblers who play in the casino always win. The owners also know that winning gamblers must have good luck and that luck can't always come their way. So casino owners try to attract more gamblers because many gamblers must lose. At the same time, gamblers who win will be less than gamblers who lose. So, after all, the casino owners earn more than the gamblers.

Almost majority of the community here in the forum are agreed that applying for loan to gambling only is not a wise thing decision. Which is I also agreed, in fact on this such behavior is only addict gambler can do this actually. It is because for a responsible player in a casino won't do this for sure.
Because several community in the gambling industry always gave reminders to gamble moderately, and do it for fun or entertainment only.

Yeah everyone would agree on the point that taking out a loan for gambling is a bad. Still gamblers would take a loan then gamble and lose it all. To repay the previous loan they would take out a fresh one. Pay part of the loan then gamble would the left amount. Lose it and fall into debt trap. It is a vicious cycle which never ends causing a lot of pain & shame to everyone related to the gambler. This how families get destroyed because bad money management due to gambling. That is the reason it is always advised to gamble resposibly and gamble with the money that you can afford to lose. Gambling is a form of entertainment and it should be taken in that sense.

If the player did not make a collateral (although, as I understand it, these are rare cases) and lost the bet, then this is equivalent to the appearance of a loan that needs to be repaid. Also not very "unique" situation.
All of these are irrational and ultimately unprofitable, but it may be just what allows players to tickle their nerves and get a shot of adrenaline.

Basically, you're just saying that there are just two way around when a gambler borrows money and that's true.

And it's normal to think on how much you're going to repay because you've taken a loan. That's pretty much the typical thing to think of because you're obliged to do it.

But at the end of it, you'll get to see how it will impact you as a gambler because it's not a good way to start anything related to gambling if you  will use borrowed money.

That's for sure. The fact that you borrow money to gamble already makes you irresponsible. Maybe some people consider taking the journey, and they would borrow money to raise a decent bankroll. However, the moment they lose the money, most of the borrowers will have bigger problems. It's impossible to repay the loan when there are no funds coming from gambling.

So if you promise a lender that you'll be able to pay because you will win in gambling, that's not realistic, as most of the time, we experience losses in gambling.

Just think of this: When a person borrows money for personal wants or needs, that's called bad debt. But when a person borrows money to start a business that will generate income, that's considered a good debt.

Do not gamble with loan money but you can build an offshore online casino with loan money. The two are different.
One is stupid investing, the other is smart investing. Stupid investing gets you in trouble, Smart investing gets money in your pocket. If you don't have your own money to gamble wait until you do to avoid jail, a bad credit score and regrets for an action that could have been avoided by being self-disciplined.

Yes you are right it is wrong behavior and also that most addicts do that, the fact is there is a friend of mine who was an addict he borrowed money from loan sharks and gave his house papers as collateral, after he was due he didn't pay his debt now he lost his house, even his wife and children had to leave the house because of his behavior in giving the loan shark a house guarantee.

Addicts are very difficult to cure because many of what I see around me are mostly bankrupt because of gambling, moreover there are many debts borrowing money everywhere to gamble, but I don't know if they have the desire to stop gambling, because that way they can get out and reduce their addiction, gambling should be responsible so that you can limit your gambling expenses so you don't have to borrow money from anyone.

agree with this mate, smart investing is good enough to sustain our daily needs in the  future. While stupid investment will take you down as we all know that if we involve in loaning and the main purpose is to gamble and fulfill our happiness then it will lead us down in the future cause once we loss all that money then we will need to get more money in order to pay it in due date. While in the other hand we borrow money and build a business or let sat build a gambling site then that is a smart move that can earn a lot of money.

Well, cases like this have started to happen to gamblers a lot. It's a stupid thing when they have very high hopes for gambling, in fact I heard from some people that they think that gambling can be used as their main income. How can one get consistent results by relying only on luck in it. But if they are already addicted there is nothing that can stop them, it is even very possible for them to make loans to gamble. Because at any time they have full confidence to get victory from gambling. For me to be honest this is impossible but for those who are already in the addiction phase it is very possible. I am very concerned about what happened to your friend, with this incident I hope they can prioritize self-control more, I understand it is very difficult to be able to stop but to have more wives I think it is possible. Moreover, adding activities every day so that indirectly we forget about gambling.

If every gambler became disciplined, then there wouldn't be any of this sort of drama, but you know some people will still read and receive these kinds of warnings but still go along with their gambling behaviour. Only a responsible gambler can follow instructions that do not lead them to an extent where they have to take out loans to gamble. I don't think any normal, responsible gambler would just want to take out a loan and gamble because they want to see if they have any good experience with it.

A disciplined gambler: he will know which money to use to play of course the cold money he has, he will listen to the advice of others to go on a straight path, but he is for the pleasure of gambling of course the bonus money used is not borrowed money.

For people who are responsible when gambling, of course, choose with a smaller risk, the matter of losing it is clear but if the goal is only for the sake of fun then losing any amount will not be a problem because it is extra money they use.

     -     I just noticed in the community here on this forum platform that when it comes to crypto, there are so many active gamblers who show concern for their fellow gamblers for playing gambling, which does not prevent you from playing as long as you don't come from debt the one you will play.

I salute you my fellow gamblers, this is just to show that there are many responsible gamblers here on this platform that somehow you can show how to be an example of being a good gambler. I agree with what you are passionate about.

Gambling with borrowed money is a frequent phenomenon among those players who cannot control themselves, because those who can, will never play for money that does not belong to them. This is a kind of indicator of the player's condition. In many stories of players, there are descriptions that they borrowed money, often later becoming victims of death threats to life. And what's terrible, there are stories when a player borrowed so much money (and lost everything) that when life is threatened, he is passive.
That is, he even wants to be dealt with, and in my opinion this is terrible.

Therefore, there is a golden rule among traders and conscious gambling players - to trade /play only with your own money. It is forbidden to win back at the casino or betting on other people's money.

As it should be, it would be highly discouraged to borrow money just to fulfill our desire to gamble. So, naturally, most of the community agrees that applying for gambling loans is not a wise decision. although, even if someone is a very reliable gambler. it's only natural, if no one will suggest something that will eventually plunge others, in the community. but in practice, it's not uncommon for someone to borrow money to fulfill their desire to gamble. I mean, for in our community

The point is, what you say is something true. however, it is possible that some of us make loans to gamble. no problem, as long as they are responsible with the risk. moreover, if someone is aware and knows with every risk he takes. most importantly, they didn't do anything reckless by borrowing big money just to gamble. but still, if possible, it is highly not recommended to make loans just to fulfill his desire to do gambling.

Everything should really be in limit on which it is really just that right that you should  really be that mindful about your gambling spending because people do usually mess up on the time that they would really be going above the border line which its never been that ideal because you are the ones who do mess up your own life on having this kind of behavior on which its a must avoided thing in the first place.Gambling is for fun but you shouldn't really be tolerating yourself on playing out on something which doesnt have limits because you are the ones who would be making up your life miserable on the time that you do find yourself having no funds or money left.This is the primary problem on which most gamblers do facing on on which they do mess up their finances because of having no control when it comes to spending because they are pushing up their luck on trying out to make themselves that rich because of gambling which it is really just that a bullshit idea.

Gambling with your own money is very high risk then not to talk of borrowed funds, well I have one simple logic which I follow and that's everyone has their way to follow and that's why I feel throwing all these advice is not necessarily needed because the worst set of person to actually take your advice will be the addicted person.

I have friends who just can't stop gambling and this has lead them to be obsessed with the habit that any Advice you give is just like void noise in his ears so I just tell straight that experience is actually the best teacher.

You know, I got really mad at one of my co-workers who is basically a gambler who seems to have lost his mind. He was totally addicted and had even taken risks I could not have imagined before to fulfill his gambling passion. Recently he took an online loan to fulfill his desire to gamble, but what I regret the most is that he secretly entered my cellphone number as collateral so that the service would give him a loan.

He really was crazy about gambling, but that was his part. The problem is I highly regret that he has involved anyone else in fulfilling his desire to gamble, he did so not based on my consent until the service contacted me today because the loan was in trouble (failed to pay on time).

Geez, your co-workers really don't think about the consequences of borrowing money from online loans.
He really has lost his mind borrowing from that online loan, using your cellphone number as collateral.
I'm curious how you explain to the online lender about this mistake, but hopefully, you won't be chased by the debt collector.
That's what happened to a gambling addict who had a severe gambling addiction to the point of sacrificing his friends to get money to gamble.
Hopefully, the case can be resolved properly and your friend can get out of gambling but it must be really hard.

Going to the extent of taking loans from online lending company shows that his friend is really deep in his gambling addiction and if care is not taken could reach the level of stealing or committimg series of crimes just to satisfy this gambling desires, really bad and at this stage he really needs some therapeutic aid to help him recover, because at this stage i don't think an advise from friends or family could do anything to help him recover since he's soaked deeply into it.
 It's in your best interest to seek the help of his family to try aid him in coming  out of this bad habit because if care is not taken you could imagine what he could no next after involving you as his collateral without your concep, maybe he could steal your valuable items to settle his debt or use a families valuable item as collateral to settlle his debt, I've seen cases where people are arrested and jailed due to inability to pay their debts and i just hope his case doesn’t get to that, it won't really be easy to change him immediately because gambling addiction takes a gradual process to change totally and going for a therapy is the best solution.

It’s surprising to me when I see people talking loan to gamble, we all know gambling is risky, I can’t imagine myself going for a loan just because I want to gamble, seriously it those not worth it, the risk is too high. But people still take the loan just to gamble and no matter what you tell them, they will never listen to you, they always claim if you can’t take risk you will never be successful in life. When you keep on advising some addicted gamblers, they will stop associating themselves with you, because your advice will be like a disturbance to them, they won’t know that you are the one that really mean good to them, they will rather make friends that are addicted to gambling just like them, so that they will be motivated to gamble more.

Raising a bankroll with a loaned money is a terrible idea. Coming from being irresponsible by borrowing money to gamble up to that point of using loaned money whether to add or to start with as you gamble.

It could also be a common reasoning for a gambler that he'll pay the debt because he's expecting that he's going to win. Possible but not really a good promise to say upon paying debt.

You shouldn't be relying on that matter for you to pay the loan that you've taken. It should be from a guaranteed source of income just as how the banks are sure of who they're approving. Thus, never do this, never borrow money to gamble.

Well and even I myself can't think about it, I mean I can't stop thinking that gamblers use money borrowed to make their gambling capital. Those who have once tried to decide to borrow to gamble, then that is the beginning of their downfall as a gambler who is also in debt there. Apart from that someone who is already in a period of addiction seems like they will justify any means to be able to realize their desire to gamble, as you said that they no longer care about the high risks that are in it. They will not realize that they have lost a lot there, and it is unlikely for them to be able to take advice from other people regarding their gambling, apart from that let them feel the bitterest thing that will make them curt not to do it again.

Their main goal is no longer to make a profit, but to satisfy their lust for gambling. Gambling makes them addicts to the game, hoping for a Jackpot that gambling sites never give. It is very ironic to know that gamblers are like this, they are just doing something wrong, borrowing money to gamble which will end in new problems. I don't know how to remind addicts like this, because they don't have the common sense to think about the impact of the loan.

however, it is real happening all around us. I have witnessed gamblers who collect debts from other gamblers to continue the game. don't ask about the problem of addiction, because a situation that is already like that obviously won't be done by ordinary gamblers who play inconsistently every day.
Gambling irresponsibly, even if using your own money can be a headache if you experience a series of losses. especially when added to the debt that must be paid.

Having the mindset of going for loan to ensure gambling is not a good sign on a gambler at all because it will land such a person in debt and be running helter and scelter for survival at the end of it, when such person is left without options to source for money owed, they begin to think of how to use cunny ways to source for money then stealing begins to set in.


Even if the family managed to pay off his debt, they also need to find a means to stop his addiction and probably adopt therapeutics as you've mentioned, addition is very hard to control.


 

Rules are easy to read but very difficult to follow in some cases, especially in gambling. If you are not really in a good state of mind and exercising your self-control very well, you can really make some wrong decisions that lead to the mismanagement of your funds. You know that we can't put away the fact that gambling is full of fun and some kind of attraction, like the more you gamble, the more you wish to gamble more and more until there's no money to spend again, and if there's even a chance for the gambler to borrow, you will see them meeting their friends and asking if they can help them with some funds, which they will pay back later.

This is the sad reality of a person drowned by gambling addiction.  First he will put a lot of time gambling affecting his source of fund while depleting his current fund.  When he messed up with his source of funds then he will try to recover the losses by gambling more hoping to win a huge amount of money in order for him to get a lot of time looking for another source, but little that he knows, he is starting to deplete his current funds. And when the gambling addict is in financial ruins, he will start borrowing money to his friends and even with the intention of paying it, without a proper source of fund, that person will default his loan.  Then due to frustration, uncontrol urge to gamble, he will then be forced to think of illegal ways to get money to support his gambling addiction.


I highly agree, gambling addiction should be cured even after the family paid for that gambling addict's debt.  Since the problem will surely reoccur if the gambling addiction of a person is not cured.

I had my payment coming from here previously, but it's almost as if I merely forwarded it so I wouldn't have to wait. And, no, I don't take out loans or even utilize my pocket money. Everything I utilized for internet gambling came from cryptocurrency as well. It doesn't influence my personal life whether I win or lose, but I don't do it anymore because it's stupid. I even regret getting involved with gambling. If it hadn't been for gambling, I may have made more money in cryptocurrency and changed my life.

When a gambler has no capital with which to place gambling bets, he borrows capital from banks or other sources if he cannot manage the capital in any other way. This can be said to be a type of greed, because of this greed many gamblers become bankrupt and are forced to take any kind of risk if they cannot repay the loan. In my locality many gamblers are getting involved in criminal activities due to such loans. So it is by no means advisable to get involved in gambling by taking a loan for the time being.
Moreover, due to these loans many couples are facing problems of divorce and forced dowry system which is not desirable in a healthy society.

When a gambler loses his entire fund and then is interested in gambling with credit, he is taking a big risk, I think. Because nowadays most of the gamblers lose their money and when they can't win the bet they decide to take interest loans from different places. In such a situation, it is seen that if most people bet with the amount of money they borrow, if they lose, then there is definitely a huge pressure on them. But I think gambling with loan is risky but some people who are experienced in gambling and wise if they gamble with loan they can pay it off by winning the bet. But not everyone is the same so gambling with loans I think is totally risky and can put a gambler's life in great danger. Many times it is seen that people who are addicted to gambling gamble with various banks or loans with interest and they lose many times. Losing that borrowed money they decide to sell any land or anything else they have and this affects their families in the future. So when a gambler gambles he should never gamble with a loan rather he gambles with the money he saves if he can make a profit it is good for the gambler.

Planning is everything, knowing what we can take in and give out. Loans are debts, and triggering them is not financial advice. Gambling can result in either profits or losses. Furthermore, we should always strive to be on the winning side, as this is the only way to reap the benefits of the system. Being on the losing end has resulted in nothing but massive losses and regrets; just try not to blow things out of proportion. If there is no money, we stick to what will provide us with multiple sources of profits. Taking out loans for gambling is not a bad idea, but the consequences include huge indebtedness.

It should be so but I don't know. That seems difficult to do, considering that his friend was already so badly addicted to gambling that he borrowed money from an online loan.
I think he should tell his friend's family that he has used his phone number to borrow money from online loans so that his family can find a way to cure his gambling addiction.
I'm just worried that he will be asked to pay the online loan bill, especially if he has no relationship with his friend.
Maybe his friend really should be put in a rehab center to cure his gambling addiction.

That’s what most addicted gamblers are always having in mind, they are having the mindset that they are going to hit a Jack pot one day, so they believe if they don’t give up, then the day is going to come and they will be able to recover all the amount they have lost in gambling, but don’t be surprised that most of them will never hit any jackpot.

Addicted gamblers will never believe that taking a loan to gamble is risky, some of them are always confident in the bet they are planning to place, they don’t believe they can lose money. When you are gambling, there is an assurance that you are going to win the bet, that’s why it’s called gambling, but some people are always too confident.

No matter how you are going to advice a addicted gambler that he/she is doing the wrong thing, they will never listen to you so it’s better you just keep looking at them, addicted gamblers don’t listen to advice, they do anything just to get money to gamble.

regarding online loans it really kills someone slowly and plus someone who borrows is a gambling addict the situation will be much worse. the best way really has to tell everything to his family because whatever happens can help him recover from addiction and solve the loan problem and there is no other way but to tell his family to get it done right away because if not, no one can help even if his friend ever can.
and maybe if his family already knows about his addictive activities to the extent that it involves online loans he will immediately be rehabilitated to a psychology specialist and that must be done because if not he will just become an addict again and borrow money again because it is very easy to access online loans to be able to get money easily and used to vent his addiction.

I agree that if you are ready for something, then you are not so easily caught off guard. But if you don't suspect, then everything is completely different. It's like if you don't know that there will be a trick or a prank on you now, and you behave very casually, and without waiting for a trick. It is very sad that addicted players do not understand that you need to stop if you have lost all your money. Unfortunately, they think that they will be able to recoup on borrowed funds, making the situation even worse. I read the story of a ludoman who twice sold all the things of the owner of the rented apartment where the player lived. It's horrible. And in this situation, he was saved by his parents, who bought all the furniture and appliances back.

Now loans have become a very easy matter and gambling is even easier because one can gamble from the comfort of his home with the help of a smartphone. so now a family is unable to know if any member of their family is gambling with the loan.  It manifests itself when the gambler loses gambling and fails to repay the loan on right time. so these things cannot be stopped in any way. to do this requires self-awareness and self-control. so those who is not able to control himself from gambling.  His destruction is certain

The gambler will tell everything when they already lose all of his borrowed money or everything that he have, so it's already to late to tell his gambling addiction. Although our children get older and mature, but as a parent we should watching our kids' activities. For sure we must give them privacy, but we still need to control them because we're need to make sure they're not making a big mistake that could ruin their life and our life.

The comfort of easy loans and gambling shouldn't be blamed to be honest, the individual that was addicted to it should be responsible enough to handle what was the outcome if he gets addicted. Well, that was for sure devastating to know that you've got a loan that wasn't handed by you and you'll know it's already late and was used into gambling, that's so fxxked up.

Taking loan to play gamble is beyond the principle for playing gambling.  I see  borrowing money to play gamble as addiction, doing this is not just love for gambling but addiction,  a level of gambling that it is so hard for one to play responsible which is to control and know when to play and to stop. To borrow money to play gamble is a bad one because gambling is too risky and it is too hard to predict when to win, in a game like this I still wonder why people will choose to borrow money to play gamble when they are not sure what will the result be at the end.

That's right, all regarding gambling and lending money that are carried out by everyone cannot be blamed when there is a mistake in taking a step like someone borrowing money just to gamble, it is clear that the individual himself is at fault because he cannot be responsible for his actions.
There are many cases where a person runs out of money and then chooses a shortcut by borrowing some money even though it is the wrong choice and can lead him into a downward spiral.

Many people give advice or suggestions not to try to use borrowed money for gambling, but most gamblers don't want to hear this advice and instead do as they please.

Generally, we take loan for any purpose where the money can be used to create any asset or used for any reliable purpose. But when it comes to gambling loans, it seems strange to me too, but in reality, the number of such loans has increased. Any kind of advice will not help them because they try to do what they understand. Moreover, they never think about the things that exist outside of gambling. My question is how can a gambler gamble if he has no money? What kind of situation can he face if he loses after borrowing? They could have easily gotten out of the gambling loan if they could have realized the post-loan situation.

A borrowed money should either have few purposes and gambling shouldn't be one of the choices. I'd rather invest on something that will give me returns in the future rather than risking it on gambling that is clearly not worth it. We won't be able to understand the mind of these gamblers that thinks gambling as some kind of job but one thing is for sure, they just wanted to win or return that borrowed money if they win. Moreover, it is not a certain stuff and most do fail and became miserable.

I don't really think that one can get enough loans that they can use to build their own casino with it. Building a casino requires a pretty big budget since there are a lot of expenses, the development of the platform, developing or purchasing games, hiring team members for managing the operations of the casino, and doing a lot of paperwork if you want to get it licensed, allocating a budget for marketing and PR, and a bankroll for rewarding winners and stuff.

Once all that is done, it comes to the point of managing the overall business and it's not really a joke. A normal person who only gambles can't manage a casino because it requires experience and knowledge of running a business to be able to run a casino, even if one starts it, they won't be able to maintain it.

Taking out a loan to put your money where your mouth is, eh? All your eggs would be broken if you put them in a basket like that. There seems to be a flaw in your reasoning

People out there are crazy, often believing they can win against all odds. Nail jelly to the wall and see how well that works! Nobody can explain why they do it. Possibly the rush of excitement? Perhaps you're gambling to get lucky. What the heck, if that's what makes them happy. However, as the old adage goes, "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye" (or their money)

It's better if his family knows the real incident to overcome his gambling addiction.
Or maybe his family already knows but they don't know how or what he does when that person is not home.
Taking an online loan doesn't solve the problem, especially if it's to play gambling because the interest they give is very unreasonable.
And that's what can make someone who takes an online loan have to return more money than he borrowed.
Hopefully, we will always avoid borrowing money online and not using it to play gambling because it is very risky to lose more money than we imagine.

Building a casino is, indeed, a complicated matter. You're right, though, that a regular person who solely gambles cant merely create and run a casino. But what about borrowing loans to finance its construction? That is where the thinking might be a little bit, if not completely, incorrect.

Isnt money something, though? At the same time, it is both everywhere and nowhere. A loan might be feasible with the right bank, the right plan, the right people, and the right something. Maybe not the entire sum, but some of it? Perhaps? Loans can be curious, even perplexing, things. And a casino, which is sizable, well-lit, and... pricy. And loans? They very well could be a piece of the puzzle. even if the puzzle is challenging. You can solve complicated puzzles, right?

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who do make calculations on what they could do and how they could do well and in return it may or may not end up being good or not. I think it's quite important to realize that this is going to be a tough one.

For example, I could put ALL the saved money I have, and even take out some loan as well, and put ALL of that money into a simple bet, and I do not mean like it will be a tough one, I mean like a sports bet like 1.40 odds, that would be 40% return and I would not only pay my loan back, but also would have so much more money and not only I would be able to pay the debt back, but I would be finally able to do what I always wanted, which would be buying some stuff that I needed for long time.

That would be good if that 1.40 is a win though,lately I have been losing on tennis bets of 1.08 so the sport betting since gambling was introduced has changed and it is difficult even to win a 1.40 bet even in sport betting.Let me make an example of today where Leeds United lost or better drew in the last moment with an odd of 1.38 against a team in which theory was much weaker than them.Now let's suppose I played this bet with loaned money this will only make my situation difficult that is why I insist that most of the times the experience with loaned money is really bad for gamblers except a very few specific cases where luck solve the problem of these few specific people.

this is the very reason why gambling is gaining a notorious reputation because some gamblers are doing desperate moves just to satisfy their desire in gambling. if you are in your right mind and you have control of your gambling activities, you won't do such thing, putting your friend to a liability he has no knowledge of.
once the family learned about this issue, they should talk to their family member who is culprit of this action. find a way how to help them change their lifestyle to a better one or at least not resort to desperate moves that will put other people at risk.

And that desire, will turn into addiction soon. It is better for me if we will try to stop our too much desire  because we will end up losing in our own greediness , as well as our mind to decide well , don't took a loan just to play if he can't afford it then don't play always remember that taking a loan will have interest running everyday and it will not good for him since there's no assurance that he will win everyday.

Well, I think you have said all the consequences of when an assignment is acquired, and if you are right they can be like that, in my very personal opinion I am a player who controls very well what is destined to play and lose in a casino For me , if the money that I have destined to use in the casino runs out because I lost it, I will stay away, I will not start inventing more edpepostitar because I will be going against my own rules and that is something that I never want us to be able to and should not do neither in the game nor in the trade.

Now, if a person who has spent their money in the casino and decides to take a loan, it is because that person has the ability to pay in case they lose, whether it be with jewelry, gold, cars, whatever, it is their decision. of the person, now if the person has nothing or capciada of payment, it is a very bad decision to have taken a loan and secondly things should not be done like this because a person who is of legal age and completely of legal age does not have to recriminate nothing, because it was under his decision that they gave him that credit or loan.

In particular, I am a person who would never take a loan to play in a casino. It seems to me the dumbest way to spend money, because it is very difficult to earn with that pressure that the money is lent, I must also emphasize that things are not how people always imagine them, when you take a loan there is the hope of earning the most money, to repay the loan and make a profit, or worse, to go after what you already spent to see if it can be recovered.

I am one of those who think that when there is a lot to spend in a casino, other types of things can be done, but less for a loan because I consider that a loan in a casino is not as necessary as for other things that are necessary, it is In other words, for things that must be paid for health, or emergencies, of course it is my criteria, I don't see any other, but there are some who give priority to casinos and that is respectable, everyone has their criteria.

But still, if they can afford to pay that, then it is no problem, and as long as they know that you can lose it all in just a day, there's no problem with them. But again, it is not a good choice to take a loan without a real purpose, meaning buying assets, investing, or in emergency situations, because the sole purpose of a loan is to have money that can help you in days where you need it, but if you are just using it to gamble and having a hard time paying it off, then it is better to not do it and triple-think.

Still, it is not recommended gamble using borrowed money even if you have other economic sources to repay the money. Money that you don't hold is not yours yet, there is no guarantee that money that is expected from other parties will soon be yours because that is still just a hope.
Many people gamble to chase victory, but in reality more people run out of money after gambling. The addictive nature that often approaches gamblers will make gamblers feel anxious and uncomfortable if they do not return to the place of gambling even though they have just lost. Need to make wise decisions before getting caught in a difficult situation, there are many negative effects that gamblers have using borrowed money.

If a gambler doesn't have money to gamble, of course they will be desperate to do all kinds of ways to get money for gambling, this will be very detrimental for him, if he makes a loan to gamble, of course, this is very detrimental for him and this will make it even more difficult if he loses in gambling. Gambling in terms of looking for entertainment, in my opinion, is a natural thing because we can still refrain from making loans when we experience defeat.

This is the result of getting into addiction.
 - debts/loan
 - stealing
 - criminalities
If someone will come to me and asked for loan money for gambling, I certainly decline even if they offer a huge percentage because I know that it was hard to make money from gambling. I have had this experience before, I join the lottery and borrowed money from my friend. Well, as we all know that we can't win in gambling if we don't have luck - of course, I lose but I pay him back. But I'm not sure if that is a huge amount.

Going to the extreme, taking out a loan to gamble, is obviously not the most effective way to pursue, yet we must take chances to continue to sustain ourselves. We all have different gambling experiences; the most important thing to take is both the negative and positive impacts of the system; this is the only way to learn and adapt to reap beneficial profits from the space. Lending money to someone who is desperate to place wagers is an unmistakable indication that he is a compulsive gambler. I avoided those unpleasant activities and concentrated on more important issues that would keep my source of revenue flowing.

That's true, it is not really easy to follow rules, especially if you have become addicted to something and the rules prohibit you from doing that or maybe put some restrictions on you. So when an addicted gambler gets out of money and can't gamble anymore, and rules say that they can't borrow money for gambling because it's not manageable if they lose it, that is when it becomes very difficult for them to follow the rules because they just can't control the urge.

So, when the urge reaches the point where they just can't do it anymore, they start looking for people who can lend them some money, they will say that they will return it soon but they most probably lose it in gambling because gambling does that to everyone, and then they get in trouble because of the loan.

This is a way for someone to be able to borrow money. But if this loan is used for gambling, the promise will become a promise only. except when he got a big win he will paying it not for other gambling, but if they are looking for more loan, it will be even more difficult to return it. I personally don't use loans to gamble, but my plan failed due to unexpected things. Luckily I was still able to overcome it slowly, but if I was still gambling, maybe I would be the one having more trouble than my position now.

The addiction was forcing someone to borrow money for gambling purpose. I have seen that so many people in my environment were borrowing money even they were selling their assets for gambling. Once people lose their mind and they will not be able to control themselves.
The main problem is how hard controlling our addiction from playing the game like slot. Losing money in the slot was also pushing our mind to recover the lost fund through playing the game again.
The only dumb people who borrow money to be used for gamble. It never becomes a recommendation to do that.

If they think, I don't think they will continue of borrowing money. It's not right to only think about the positives. We should think the negative too so that we can't end up in a wrong decision. I don't think those who lost, never pay their loans. They could get in serious trouble if they plan so. Maybe they are given more time to re-pay it. They still can find a job. If they have it already, then they can add a side hustle to earn money which can be used to pay the loans.

Without a loan, losing in gambling is still there, so we must only play with amounts that we can afford to lose or better to play using fake money only if completely avoiding gambling is not possible.

This is exactly why people should never take out loans for gambling. It's incredibly risky and can make your problems get worse or you'd face really bad issues. When you borrow money for gambling, there's no guarantee that you'll get the funds back since gambling is very risky and your chances could be low for that to happen and you can end up losing everything at any time. To avoid this high risk, you should never consider using loans to gamble. It won't be a good experience at all, believe me.

It is always the situation when the gambler will say anything guaranteeing that he will be able to return the money. But if you're the lender, do not believe them. Always ask for the collateral if you're going to grant a gambler a loan. That's always the matter of concern if you're valuing your lending business and money. But if not, then you're too kind to allow that loan and let them lose it not knowing that some of them won't be able to return it based on what they've promised you.

I understand your point @MinMan but I would even be more wise avoid unnecessary debt situation by not even taking the loan at the first place, I mean this is something that involves risk and that should be more reasons that people shouldn't take loans to involve in it, chances of winning is not even 100% guaranteed therefore if you're to take a loan to involve in anything it should be for a business that yield profit and has no or little loss whereby you can easily pay off your debt when you made profit from it.
 Okay imagine using money gotten from loan to gamble and you lose how are you going to pay back, where would you get the money from, they know they could get in serious trouble why risk getting in trouble and also if they can get a job to pay the loan why not wait till they get the job and use the money gotten from it to gamble at least no one would embarrass them or query them to pay their debt because it'd there own money, the only thing is that they'll feel remors, I'm not in support in that act and I'll never advice any to take a loan to gamble.

Using borrowed money to gamble certainly has a greater level of responsibility, at least that's what I've experienced and felt in the past. But one thing that makes me confident to borrow money for gambling is, I realize and or I am very confident that I can win at a certain bet and at a certain time at that time. But, if I'm not confident that I can win, then I also wouldn't be desperate to borrow money to gamble because honestly, borrowing money to gamble is very risky. So yes, it seems borrowing is fine i guess but one thing we have to realize is, that we also have to be aware of being able to return it. Whether it's from the profits from gambling itself or if it fails, you must be prepared to raise money to repay the loan of course.

things I don't want to repeat a second time, using borrowed money to play gambling. once I did that where it occurred to me at the time that I would win the game and I would get profits and my debt would be paid off. but what happened was that I experienced a loss, so this made me confused and confused about paying bills,  which caused me to be a little depressed until I finally sold my personal items to pay off the debt.

but departing from that incident made me a wiser gambling player not to play gambling with money where it was clear what it was for.

In my understanding, it is profitable to borrow money only to buy your own home, education, advanced training, purchase the necessary vehicle or tools, which in the future will allow you to earn more money.

Borrowing money for entertainment is a rather stupid idea. I would advise a person who decided to borrow money for gambling to think carefully. Dispose of other people's money is very easy, another thing to earn money by your own labor and give the creditor.

Selling personal items is not the most extreme measure for a gambler who starts having problems with self-control and borrowed funds. I read a story about a guy who sold all the furniture from the apartment he rented twice, because he needed money for betting. And only when the landlady of the apartment called him and said that she was going to him, he understood what he had done. Both times his parents paid the owners of the apartment damages for furniture and appliances. And it's still good when a dependent gambler has rich parents and they have the opportunity to cover his debts. Many others would have had no choice, and they would have gone to jail.

If you are so confident that you will win, it means that it should not be called gambling anymore.
If you are too sure that you will win, you should have gone for like 500k dollars loan instead of borrowing 1k dollars from a friend.
There is no way anyone will be so so sure that they will win.
That is by the way, discussing about the topic raised in OP, borrowing to gamble is not a good advice.
Gambling itself is a risk, taking a loan is another risk. Using loan money to gamble is a double risk and if you do not win it can lead to depression. The only people that will consider to do that are addicts.

Also, what is the consequence of using loan money to gamble? I think that it will ultimately lead to a catastrophe because how many players would take a $1000 loan, gamble and double the money, pay $1000 back and then what, stop gambling? I think this could quickly and most likely escalate because a player could get trapped into thinking that this is really a great concept.

The two things that are behind gambling with loan money contradict each other. Someone who is so self-controlled that he would never take a loan to gamble, won't ever win in gambling with loan money because he doesn't consider it in the first place. Someone who would take loan money to use it for gambling is very, very likely not the type of person to then stop after winning and having paid back the loan money. This is just one problem that I think is quite obvious for most people who consider taking a loan to gamble.

Well most violence that has been seen in the gambling world can be traced to either using borrowed money to place bets or by not paying up a loss bet. I think just like it's not advice to use borrowed Money to Invest in Crypto-currency, so it is not wise to use borrowed money to gamble.

I personally see gambling as fun in as much as money is involved I try to gamble responsibly that way you would be able to avoid Lossing more than you can bear or getting into violence in the process.

When you're playing with money that comes from a loan you are forced to win and when you lose you bend your anger to anyone and you become a violent man this usually happens in physical casinos where we see people bending their anger to slots or chairs or anything that they can hold on even to the point of punching people, there are so many of these on Youtube where people cannot control their anger after losing because many of these people play money coming from loans

Exactly. Either through people taking loans from tigers or sharks or whatever the hell they're called for nowadays, which is the worst thing you could do for yourself. And although I must say you're thinking rather radical, this is something that happens on the daily everywhere and if you could inform someone to stop them from doing so at the very least then that's one person saved. Anyhow, I think OP's looking to take a loan from someone that's legit and trusted, which doesn't make it any better cause at the end of the day you're literally asking for money so you can fund your vices and as I said in my previous post, that's one good way to shoot yourself in the foot.

At the end of the day, it's all about control, not the lack of money. If you don't have enough money to fund your gambling vices in the first place, don't subject yourself to bigger problems by taking up a loan.

^Definitely right, most of the violence within the gambling world often stems from two main sources and it could be utilizing borrowed funds for bets and failing to settle a loss wager. This parallels the advice against using borrowed money to invest in cryptocurrencies, underlining the risk in both scenarios. Treating it as a form of entertainment while maintaining responsible gambling practices is a wise decision. This strategy ensures you don't surpass your financial limits or find yourself entangled in situations where losses become unbearable or violence becomes a potential outcome. By adhering to responsible gambling guidelines, you are prioritizing enjoyment without jeopardizing your well-being or resorting to dangerous circumstances.

You are right, as long as we can calculate correctly that we can return the loan money on time regardless of the results of gambling I think we will be fine, so not everyone who borrows to gamble is because he is addicted but because he already knows that it will be able to return the loan money without any problems, such as members who are used to using the results of signature campaigns to gamble, it will not be a problem for them to borrow first to do their gambling because there might be a very interesting promotion or event that can provide additional benefits, and when he receives payment, he will be able to pay, but it is not recommended to do the same thing over and over again because one day you will be able to exceed your ability to pay because you feel it is the best way to continue gambling so that it will bring you difficulties to pay off debts because it would be better to only gamble with money that is our own, not the result of debt.

A signature campaign is also not a guaranteed income, today there is a signature campaign, but tomorrow it may end. I think that a gambling loan can be taken by someone who understands that he can win, and an additional source of income will be like a safety net.

But on the other hand, if a player knows how to win, then he must have money from past victories, and in this case, why should he take a loan? If simply increasing the bet is also not a good decision, because it happens that the bet can be lost, why increase the risk by increasing the bet to a large size?

The problem is that they don't think about the risks and instead borrow money to gamble. This mistake is repeated by those interested in getting wins from gambling so by borrowing money, they put their hopes of winning even though it is still difficult to get these wins.

If they get a salary from their job, they should use the money instead of having to borrow, especially if they don't know how to pay all the money they borrowed if they lose. And it's true that even without borrowing money, we can lose, so instead of getting in trouble from borrowing that money, we should just avoid it.

Signature campaigns are really not stable if you are just relying on them, but again, mostly those people who took out loans just to gamble are somewhat expecting huge wins, but again, we know the risk that they could lose it all, and for sure, they take out loans as they have lost all of their winnings, so it is still possible to bet, but it is not possible as they don't have money now unless they still have those winnings, and they want to win big by adding money, which is a bad move. But for me, it is their decision, but it is really a bad one as you'll be paying for the money that is already gone.

The compelling reason why they do that? In my opinion, it's because they're so ambitious there that they don't think twice about taking out a loan. It mostly happens because they have experienced great disappointment in gambling, maybe they have lost a lot of things there. If they already have the courage to take a loan to gamble then I'm sure they will continue to do so, as long as there are other people or agents who want to lend money, they will continue to do so with borrowed money, and they don't think about the risk of losing at all. No matter how much money you use will have absolutely no effect on your winnings, if it's a losing time then you lose and if it's a lucky time then you will win. Gambling is completely unpredictable, even if you are very confident in doing so but still everything will return to their respective luck. Oh well I also have a gambler friend and every month he just spends his salary money to pay the debt he uses to gamble, it looks very silly haha.

Yes, it's true that those who have income and are paid as workers can limit their gambling budgets instead of borrowing, on average those who borrow are mostly people who play with little money, when they lose gambling they don't have cash so they have to borrow moneylenders who it's in a land casino because most of the land casinos that I see have more lending and borrowing activities.

But even so, there are also those who borrow money to gamble at online casinos. It's true that we should never borrow money to gamble because we have to know that gambling has risks, so don't make things worse when you lose big when you have to borrow money, especially from loan sharks, just watch. many cases of addict gamblers who have committed suicide because they are in debt and bankrupt, gambling with loans is not a solution and the right way

Yes, when they have the ambition to continue to pursue victory in gambling, this can encourage these people to use any money so they can play it, even if it is borrowed money.
And this has happened to me where at that time I made a lottery bet and my guess was only one digit difference, which made me continue to have the ambition to get a win and place lots of numbers and increase the bet, but unfortunately at that time my capital ran out so I decided to borrow money so I could place a bet.
But it seems that the goddess of fortune is on my side so I can pay the bills for the wins I get, otherwise maybe I will be confused to pay the bills.

even though at that time I won, I didn't want to go back to using the borrowed money to be used as gambling capital, because this made me very worried if I didn't get a win.

Actually gambling using signature campaign payment is good because as you said signature campaign isn't stable income, so you're just gamble using a free money you make in this forum while the money you earn from job in real life already allocated for your monthly need.

Why should force yourself to keep gambling everyday, every week or every month?

I understand the situation when a person forces himself to wake up early in the morning and go to work. I understand the situation when a person who decided to lose weight forces himself to refuse to eat. But how to force yourself to gamble I can not even imagine. Personally, I gamble when I want to, but I try to minimize the number of gambling sessions per month in order not to get addicted to gambling. 

It is so addictive that you forget what is happening around your surrounding. What I felt best was when you as in me started winning in a continuous session. Being a responsible gambler I try my level best to restrict my bankroll. It is not easy when you are into crypto gambling as the money in the form of cryptocurrency is always ready to be used. Its ability to get transferred to the depositing wallet in a few seconds makes it more irresistible. I have now shifted to the skill games and still I am playing more luck games and that is why I am looking for more offers.

but here the most important thing is to realize the mistakes that have been made.
and I am very lucky to be able to realize this error as soon as possible, otherwise my fate would not have been much different from what you said ended up in iron bars.

I will only continue to evaluate myself to continue to improve my skills and knowledge, at least even if I can't win the gambling game, but at least I can minimize the losses in it to avoid the worse effects of gambling addiction.

It is true that a cryptocurrency account can be funded in a few minutes, but the main point of gambling restrictions is that you have to prohibit yourself from funding your gambling account. I can advise you one trick, which is to keep cryptocurrencies in staking. This not only prevents you from spending them on gambling, but also from selling them during panic in the markets. I have been saved many times by keeping my funds in staking.

We can use the payment from the signature campaign when they are exist.If they doesn't available the salary will be the best option to use for the gambling,you should split the salary to different parts.When the loan was used to the gambling,mostly you get bankrupt.Because we don't know whether we are going to win or loss.Some people use to keep on deposit to get all the loss from the gambling site.It's impossible one,only possible when you had good luck at that time.After winning,keep the winning money in the website and withdrew the old money to your wallet.

Besides, even if you're in a signature campaign, there is no guarantee that in the end of the week you will have your cut because a lot of factors can arise within the week that might be a reason why you will not have your cut in full or worse, nothing at all. Also, there's no need for a loan for that, so let's go back to the topic.

I actually never heard that having a loan just to gamble is a good thing, well yes there is this chance that you will win no matter what the odds are but speaking of the odds, you should also know that even before you gamble, your chances to win is already small enough and there is never a guarantee that you can give that loan back along with its interests. In the end, you might've dug your own grave if it turns out that luck is not with you during the activity.

I bet you know the answer already but you just want to hear from the actual gamblers how risky and how stupid it is to gamble on the borrowed money. Only inexperienced gamblers do that since they are not completely aware that the moment they gamble, they’re already putting their money at a loss.

However, with luck at some point, gambling using loaned money might also end up being profitable but in most cases, gambling using other money will definitely end up losing them all plus you get to pay it’s annoying interest monthly.

We know that signature campaigns arent that permanent on which it would really be just that normal that its not something that we could really be able to rely on in speaking about having some loans and you are
that making a guarantee with your camp paycheck in every week. What if you dont have other sources on which on the time that signature would suddenly stopped? For sure  you would really be finding yourself get fucked up. In overall sense on which its never ever been that ideal that you would really be making  yourself that taking a loan for you to gamble because you are just simply making yourself that dig on your own grave.
Unless if you are really that responsible on paying up those loans in time but in making a wise idea then its never been that good on taking up such step. Paying up some interest additional on the amount loaned plus
you would be losing all of those money in gambling is such a devastating type of condition on which i dont really like to experience. This is why as much as possible i do really gamble on the amount which is really that
sufficient or having that limit so that i wont really be putting up myself on huge problem or issues.

It doesn't mean, they don't think about the risks before making a loan. but in most cases, they are unable to overcome the overwhelming desire to fulfill their strong urge to gamble. however, because they do not have capital or money as a medium as a betting tool, then they will try to borrow money wherever it comes from. even most of them realize, that the step they are taking is a high-risk mistake. then, like you said. mistakes that are repeated many times, but the fact is they are not deterred from doing it again and again. Usually, most cases of gamblers like this think that this time they will win the bet and even hope to get the jackpot. then they will repay the loan immediately, unfortunately in practice it is not as simple as most addicts think.



Ideally, we should set aside a budget from the salary you get from work without having to borrow just to gamble. with the money we set aside, we don't have to make loans and don't even have to be responsible for returning it. because, we only play from a percentage of the salary we get.
The point is that it is highly discouraged to make loans for gambling, especially just to fulfill high desires.

I am happy that you are also a high ranked member here so you can likewise take a review on that and try to get some loan and vet with it. You might borrow very little amount below $100 and try to know what will be the outcome of that. This is going to help you a lot to understand how things could go and it might not be a good idea especially when you are in funds and don't need to borrow to try it out. This is just my own view and I know that every other persons might have a contrary view from this one I have just pointed out.

I agree gambling using loan money leads to more destruction along with myself, the family also suffers a lot. Taking a gambling loan makes it bankrupt you also use them to sell valuable assets and pay off gambling debts. Furniture electronics jewelry even your car are all things you can sell to pay off your gambling debt. Day by day feel despair and lead to loss therefore it is better to avoid it and bet according to your own money, the risk here is less. Even if you lose you don't have to get involved in the trouble of debt council also taking loans for gambling causes destruction of social peace.

In the context of my country, I will describe the horrors of taking loans from banks or taking loans from non-government organizations (NGOs). My neighbor is a traditional gambler who sometimes participates in village gambling by withdrawing money from NGOs. Sometimes he loses gambling and physically abuses his wife which we as neighbors have prosecuted him many times. But because he could not pay the money of the NGO, he sold all his land and house and now he is bankrupt. He is now mentally damaged and heavily addicted to drugs and currently wanders around mad. This is basically the evil of withdrawing money from banks or NGOs and joining gambling in the financial situation of Bangladesh.

yep, but not all use the free money from signature to gamble.

talk about other people who are outside this forum. maybe they force themselves to gamble every day there is some possibility that consider gambling as a job and bet consistently in sports betting or they are addicted. in this case it is almost the same, but gamblers who bet every day think of it as income, have consistent and strict predictive analysis and always calculate the losses or wins they get, they can be said to be professional gamblers. but for those who are addicted, do not think about the results obtained or defeats that are never counted, just betting to vent their addiction. with this addiction, someone definitely does not have a job that only costs money every day and when one day the money runs out he always has a way to keep gambling, for example borrowing money from anyone to keep gambling.

and still gambling using borrowed money is very risky and it will make a person not only addicted to continuing to gamble but also addicted to borrowing anywhere to get money.

For those who are outside this forum or do not have income from the crypto industry like those in the forum by participating in signature campaigns, they will gamble by setting aside money from their work in the real world or business but indeed in the hope of being able to make more money of every bet made.
To be honest, this method will actually bring a gambler into regret because they are gambling using money that should not be used for gambling so that if they lose it will be more difficult to accept.

Even worse, usually those who are addicted and can only gamble with money from a job or business when it runs out, there will be a decision to borrow some money to be used in gambling.
I can't stop thinking about those who dare to continue gambling with borrowed money because in gambling what is bound to happen is defeat while the gambler has the responsibility to return the money borrowed and until here every gambler will only be burdened by loans and trouble themselves.

People who borrow money or taking a loan to play gambling most of them already lose a lot of money playing gambling so they're taking risk hoping they can take all the money they lose before and hoping they can double it up and take some winnings hope. They're mostly addicted to gambling and their future depends on it already, who knows? I don't see regular people will going to loan just to play gambling and pay for the interest because that will be plain stupidity and there's no assurance that they will come back with the winnings since the odds of winning in gambling is really low it consist a certain luck in order to win in gambling. In short house always win at the end of the day.

It seems that the gamblers started to get ambitious when they managed to win a bet in the last game so they really wanted to win again in the next game. And that is why they boldly borrow money from people to gamble because they think that they can win again at the next gamble. But if that could come true, they would get a win easily but unfortunately, that was beyond their expectations because they would only lose and have trouble paying off the loan. And it is true that they were disappointed in gambling because of their loss in the next gambling game and could not return the loan money. And once they borrow money, they will continue to borrow money because it's the easiest thing they can do. Even if they don't have any money, they can borrow money from other people to gamble.

And on average, those who borrow money want to feel like they are winning from gambling so they borrow money from other people and are used to borrowing money. But unfortunately, they wrongly borrow money from loan sharks around the casino. Hence, they get into big trouble where the moneylender will take their collateral but can't return it later when they already have the money.

Borrowing money from other people is very risky because gambling can give more defeats than wins. If we don't know how to return the money, we will experience difficulties. Many have been chased by people who have lent their money but still cannot return the money until their valuables have been taken by force. Better not to borrow money from other people to gamble.

But many do not think about the risks and even though they do think about the risks, the urge to gamble is very strong. And as you said, they make mistakes repeatedly but don't even realize their actions are wrong. Gamblers think they can win and be able to return the loan money but unfortunately, they only get lost so they cannot immediately repay the loan money. But it's possible that there are gamblers who can repay the loan along with the interest and he can still have the remaining money from his winnings but the amount may be very small.

Ideally, we don't need to gamble if we don't dare to risk losing the money. It will be much better for us. But as we know, the temptation to earn big money from gambling always makes people return to gambling and if at that time they don't have money, they will of course, borrow money from other people and start gambling. Unfortunately, they are confused about getting their money back if everything runs out at the gambling table and they can't afford to get their money back.

It's a bad idea using loan money to gamble, it puts the gambler under intense pressure as your mode  will be totally different from how you will compose yourself gambling with your personal money. There's always a feeling of not wanting to be in Indebtedness by losing the loan money will drive you to take unreasonable risks in trying to double up. It's always an awful feeling gambling with loan money.

Gambling success is not in how experienced and expertise anyone may claim to be at it, it's a dependant of your strokes of luck. Some are luckier others ain't, and when we're in the luck tent we misinterpret it for our good experience.

In fact, once gambler was losing his mind and he will be using any opportunity to earn money for gambling. I have seen so many cases related to the gamblers who take a loan to play gambling. They have ended with enormous debt. This is something that must be avoided. Just gambling if we have money to do that. It's very important for us to get control of our mind. People were losing their mind can try to deal with crazy idea like taking a loan with big interest to gamble.

True. our luck is determining the result from our bet but it's quite different when it comes to the sportsbet. It's less risky compared with slot or something else but we are still able losing the money too. It's not advisable for people to take a loan for gambling.
There have been many cases happening in my community. I hope people will not lose their mind. This is the main key to avoid taking loan for gambling.

You can plan yourself with the free money that come your way if you save and pragmatic or prudent in your spending. You don't have to gamble all your signature campaign earnings for the week and expect another next week. You can gamble some portion and save some and invest in some coins like bitcoin and that is the way to live responsibly because nothing last forever. Your side hussle may still turn to be your saviour if you plan very well and not to lavish it because it is called free money. Drops of water can gather together and fill a glass of water.

Using full signature campaign payout to gamble is a very wrong decision, and even if it is free money, if you lose, you will surely feel regret.
and you may use but not all of them because this is your opportunity to continue to collect ownership of the results of the signature campaign besides buying them, because being involved in a signature campaign will not last forever and you should think about this.
and making loans to gamble is also very dangerous, and those who borrow to gamble must have addictions that must be overcome before they go too far and suffer because this is the last resort after there is no other way.

Maybe some can't afford to lose that, but some can afford to do it. Its just it all depends on the person who earns that since if the money they got from signature campaign is the one they use for entertainment them for sure everything is fine with them. If they use that as collateral just for them to gamble then this is bad attitude to do since maybe this is where they start to default on their loan especially if they can't afford to pay it back on time and everything will be in a big mess with that.

If we have a look-see around, one thing is for sure: borrowing money to place a bet is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. The loan... it's like a ticking time bomb, isn't it? There's an overwhelming pressure, an invisible string pulling at the gambler, pushing towards risks and decisions that, in all probability, don't make a lot of sense.

Gambling, it's not really about how many years one's been throwing dice or pulling slots. No, no. As you rightly pointed out - luck, that unpredictable cousin of fate, plays a significant role. When we win, we do a little dance, thinking we are the masters of our own destiny. But maybe it's just that luck decided to wink at us for once?

In essence, loan is bad. Loan for gambling? Worse. Much worse

Some gamblers live in the delusion of their years of experience but many times it has proven that experience plays little or no role in gambling when luck is lacking. If we're to take loan to invest it in other meaningful projects, it will make a collection of sense when experience is matched with it  because the results won't be based on luck as it will with gambling but on ones experience and proper planning.

Not so many attributes their wins to luck, they just believe their pattern of slot pulling or the dice throwing is great and they're good at it that's why they win.
You hear someone saying, oh this guy is very good. But No! he's not go at it, he's just being lucky with the way he does it, cause any other person with higher experience can do same and still not win.

I don’t know why people are calling signature money a free money, is it that they are not performing any task to get the money? Because I know every signature campaign is having requirements which you have to meet before you are going to be paid, if you don’t meet those requirements, then you won’t be paid for the week, like my campaign requires minimum of 20 posts in a week before you will be eligible for payment and if you don’t do 20 posts you won’t get paid, so I don’t see it as a free money.

If you have gotten to a stage of taking loan to gamble, then the addiction has gone far already, I don’t really know what push people to take loan just because they want to gamble, it’s a really bad behavior, that’s why if some people lose in gambling, they always end up committing suicide, because some of them took loan to gamble, and their is no way they can pay back the loan, so they believe their is nothing left for them and the only thing they can do is to commit suicide.

Nothing else will push a gambler to collect loan if they are not addicted and that is why when they lose they are frustrated to commit suicide most times depending on the value of the loan and there are no source of repayment.

If you play with your money and lose then the thought of commiting suicide won't come to your mind because you are the one who has the money, you can only feel bad and get over it after sometime but when your creditor threaten with all sort of problem including litigation to retrieve his money then those who see themselves as hopeless would want to go closer to bridge to take a dive into the sea or poison themselves.

I think it's because you don't have to spend anything except writing, writing is free isn't?

Not all signature campaign ask to have minimum requirement to post, some campaign are using paid per post. Although there are rules you need to obey and meet the minimum requirement every week, actually it shouldn't make you to force to post more, you should post in natural like when you were not joined the campaign.

So if we are doing any task online that’s related to writing and we are being paid that means we are making free money? The time and effort put in performing a task, don’t you think that’s enough not to consider it as a free money? I don’t see money make from signature campaign as a free money, I believe we all work for it.

You are right not every campaign is having minimum post per week, every campaign is having different rules, but if you are going to be paid you have to follow the rules, you can’t be paid if you don’t perform any task in a week, or if you don’t meet up with the weekly requirements. If money made from signature campaign is a free money, then even without performing any task the manager is suppose to pay the person, but it those not work like that, if you want to be paid, you have to complete your task, so it’s not a free money.

When it comes on affording something then it would really vary on each person since not all would really be having that kind of capability when it comes to finances on which it would really be just that right that

its better not to take up some minding about others business when it comes to the things that they've been doing. We are already that big enough and have the will on to determine on whats good and whats bad.
There are really just people who are really that mindful about others situation because in general sense which using up a loan money is never been that ideal or something wise to be done because you would be paying up some interest on something which it isnt really that an amount that could give out that kind of chance or situation which you could earn some revenue but rather you are just spending it for leisure.
Is this something that wise thing to do?

If you dont like yourself to be put up on a situation on which you are struggling in terms of financial or money then its better that you should be wise on your decisions in life
and dont just make up some rush up decisions or reckless acts.

Sometimes people that take loan to gamble does not mean that they do not have money to gamble. This might be the strategy just gambling with a loan money and pay back almost immediately without touching their capital which they must have set out for some other things. If you have seen people doing this consistently that means they are making progress with it and have found a way to make success with it. And if you did not understand the story behind it do not just do it because if you do it, normally you might not succeed from it. It doesn't make sense to take a loan to gamble, but anyone that have found a way to make profit from it. It is fine. They should continue.

Well, in the part of loans in the forum, they always request loans , but I had not seen that there they said that it was expressly to play in a Casino, if so, it seems to me a very reckless act to do it, personally I or I would do something like that, the only way I could be in a loan situation is if I have a family emergency, someone in a clinic, something like that, because Otherwise I would refrain from making a loan because it is a high commitment , firstly because of the interest that must be paid, then for the capital to be paid, sometimes I have seen people who can only pay the interest plus not the capital , which is quite hard and difficult, that is why I say a loan for a casino or playing in a casino for i it will never be something viable.

There are People who look for loans for this , and if they do it for me they have to have a very High payment capacity and to tell the truth be quite responsible, at least when I owe something, I am not calm until I pay it, it is something that I have that does not allow me to have peace of mind, perhaps it is the degree of responsibility that each one of us has, because if someone lends money it is because they want to help, then the least that can be done is to pay on time, many things when working with money And in this way things sometimes go wrong, because money makes people change, transform, it's something else, it's something very delicate.

In addition, the fact that money is used for a Casino, it is likely that this money can be lost and quickly, I am not saying that the person loses, but that it is the highest probability that it happens, we must also consider that the person who lends the money You may have some stress and pressure but if you lose that money, then these types of things are what we must take care of ourselves , when we play in a casino sometimes if we have a lot of pressure at least it goes badly for me, because things They don't work out for me , I have to play very Relaxed for things to work out well, that's what I've learned, I don't know if other players are stressed and things Work out for them , but that's what I see.

We take decisions that would either make us explore or leave us with nothing but regrets. What works for the first gambler will not work for the second. To put language proficiency plainly, we should not duplicate what others are doing, but rather focus on what works for us and implement the project. Gambling and putting borrowed money at risk will undoubtedly result in additional proceeds that will be demanding and unpleasant for gamblers. I oppose the idea of taking a loan and spending the money to gambling, which we all know is harmful and that we may never be able to escape the massive debts that result.

Gambling using a loan money is a big NO. The thing about using loan money for gambling is when you lose, you lose twice. It just doubles your regret, doubles the guilt, and doubles the money you lost. In the worst case, you will be possibly get into debt and that is something that we want to avoid. When I'm engaging to gambling I always tell myself to only risk something what I can afford to lose, in this way I am always reminded to not exceed my preferred amount for gambling. So, only gamble using your free money, but if you do not have any, better not to engage at all.

That is good advice we should keep in mind so we don't get into debt trouble. And it's true that we shouldn't borrow money to gamble; if we don't have money, it's better not to gamble. But unfortunately, that doesn't apply to people who gamble out there because they are still trying to borrow from other people, even though some borrow from different people. And when they lose and are billed to pay their debts to many people, they will need clarification and can only run away every time they are billed. It is already a big problem for us where we must pay all the debts at once or we will be arrested for not paying them.

There is no any good experience you are going to get out of using loan money for gambling, because the only ting that's guaranteed in gambling is losing money, so if you go take loan make sure it's about Business and investments.

With even business and investments some people still end up in debts, now compare this madness called strategy with gambling, and you will find yourself in some messy situation no doubt.

Loan for gambling is only good if you have never lost any gamble game before, how true is this? I guess no soul on this mother earth is that lucky I guess, use your brain not the mind.

If you take a loan to gamble and you lose, you will regret the bet you lost and the loan you took to place the bet. You will start thinking about how you are going to get the money to pay back the loan you took to place the bet, which might end up even affecting your health condition. Some people might end up going for another loan just to pay back the loan they took to gamble, and when the due date for the fresh loan they took is close, they will end up taking another loan again from another place, and they are already in debt. They might not be financially stable any longer. That’s why it’s dangerous to take a loan to gamble.

I think it only matters on an outsider observers like me and you, but for the person that's gambling, I think it won't matter too much to them, I am pretty sure that they know what they're doing when they gambled that money. Plus in the case with this one, I don't think that they won't even mind losing that money. Good advice to risk only what you can afford to lose but I can give you an even better one, why not avoid all the risk altogether by not gambling that extra money at all, spend it on increasing your savings.

Dude, I fully understand your complaints on the loans on this forum. It appears that everyone is casually asking for loans, as if they only need a few dollars for snacks. however obtaining a loan to visit a casino? That's insane on another level! You have to admit that casinos exist to separate you from your money. My man, it's a futile endeavor. The house always has the advantage, even if you have some wacky skills or a lucky rabbit's foot

I'm with you on the loan stress. I would detest owing someone money, particularly if it was for a pointless event like a night out at the casino. Money is a sticky situation. People are frequently changed negatively by it. Furthermore, if you're going to steal someone else's hard-earned money, at least be accountable enough to return it. No offense intended, but everyone needs to reassess their priorities

It depends your financial capacity on the effect of loan to your gambling experience. Some gamblers ask for short loan because they still waiting for their salary. In this case, they won't experience the scenario that you described because they have money to pay for it. They will just pay for additional cost on interest but nothing big changes than regular gambling using own money.

You will only be on disastrous state if you ask for loan without a way to pay it back aside from returning the money that you loan for repayment.

Having a loan just for the sake of gambling alone will just add some problems to you in the future and whether you like it or not, the reality about gambling is that you are always bound to lose even before you start gambling. Also, why would you add some extra problems to your life if you already know that there are no certainties that your bet will always go through in that given day. That's just a wishful thinking without weighing the situations carefully, sooner or later, don't be surprised if you are already digging your own grave.

if the gambler has a salary that will be obtained to pay off the loan as you say, the loan made will not affect or put pressure on the gambler. it's because they'll stay calm and be able to pay off debts when they get their paycheck.
What's under pressure are gamblers who borrow for betting capital but they have no guarantee of paying it off other than luck if they win. As a result the gambler will force himself to be under pressure to win.

As I have mentioned before on similar topics, it is absolutely necessary not to borrow money to gamble. Gambling is almost entirely based on luck and no one wins&earns regular income as an expert on gambling. Therefore, it would be simply foolish to think that you can generate income by gambling with borrowed money.

On the other hand, borrowing money to gamble means that you actually have less money in the beginning due to many details such as interest of course. This situation can be ignored in case of winning but if the entire amount is lost in gambling it is not an important situation to be considered. In short, the small amount paid for the interest amount will not matter much especially if the money borrowed is lost in gambling.

For someone who has a passive income stream or a good quality job, gambling with a loan may not be stressful for him. but if one does so then he can be considered as a gambling addict.  And even if a gambling addict has a fixed job, he will never improve financially. because the gambler will lose all his earnings if he fails to predict correctly and loses the bet. So instead of gambling with loans, one should gamble according to one's means so that the bad effects do not overtake him.

This is inevitable and its something  that you should really not able to do if you dont like on making yourself do mess up in speaking about finances.Who dosnt really like on having that messed up situation? None right?

Gambling is for entertainment and making use of the amount which is something you have borrowed or something having an interest will really be putting out into such problem.This is why it would really be that better if you do make use of the amount which is really that only good for that kind of sessions and its better to always make use of the amount on which you can afford to lose so that on the time that you would lose, then there's no much thing that would be affected or something you would be that regretting just because you had made use of an amount which you dont really bothered out unlike when you do make use of loaned money then the desperation within you would really be that something worst.

Experience in overall is something stressful and something that you would be making yourself that desperate because you would really be definitely be focusing up on how to make money or make winning
because you would really be that thinking that you should really be needing to repay the loan which it would really be your main priority i would say.

Most of the time the gamblers never allocate the amount for other needs. This is the major problem. If the money is being allocated and with the rest he had played, it won't affect the personal life. Some used to spend their earnings on gambling and further they tend to take loans and spend for the life needs. Whatever the scenario, we should learn to live with what is available. Whether it is gambling, or our life needs. When we go for a loan without reason, then it is the beginning of our life destruction.

That's right, until the player himself inside decides that he has enough dependence that he cannot control, and decides to take life and his desires into his own hands - no one can help him. Doctors working with addiction treatment constantly claim that this is the only way to lesenia. After all, other people cannot cure an addict, and if he only pretends that he wants to change his life, but secretly makes bets, then this is the way to ensure that such treatment will change absolutely nothing.

That is a reality that maybe some gamblers cannot feel because they are too engrossed in having fun at gambling. They will only think about the problems that can arise from borrowing money even though it will cause big problems for them, especially if they have the money to repay the loan. It would be better to gamble using our own money and not from borrowed money because even if we lose, it is our own money and we also don't need to return the money lost in gambling to anyone. Never underestimate gambling because gambling can take all of your money, including borrowed money, if you borrow money to gamble.

When gamblers do not allocate a certain amount of money for their needs and tend to take loans when they need money it is a big mistake. Because the necessities of life should be a priority and gambling is a side. When people put gambling as a priority and tend to put their needs aside, that is a mistake and this kind of thing should have been avoided if they understood the principles of financial management.
And I agree that taking a loan for no reason is a mistake. Someone should be able to play gambling and still make ends meet without going into debt if they understand how to manage their money.

Right and that is already a common knowledge because a normal human being is expected that we should put our priorities first before anything else, that doesn't necessarily includes gambling because we can still live and breath without having any of those for a couple of weeks but since some people cannot keep their hands out of casino, then I think it should be wise to keep their financials in line first and only take out an extra funds that they can afford to lose.

That's how it should be, prioritize the essential things before the leisure. If you know how to manage your finances, then it's easier to budget your money for what's important and for the less priority.

On the other side, it's not that bad to take a loan but think twice if it's worth it to loan just to spend in gambling since the returns are not guaranteed. If the loan will be use for urgent things, then it's fine as long as you're mindful to pay the money on time. But still, much better to refrain from borrowing if you're just running out of funds for your gambling activity since it is supposed to only use a spare money that you can live without.

And it's true... when we are sick and come to the doctor, apart from being given medicine, we are also advised to get more rest.
So also in gambling, if we are too addicted to gambling, it is better for us to take a break from the world of gambling for a while. In the sense that we rest first while we try to control ourselves, rearrange the gambling activities that we do and the finances that we spend playing gambling.

And we can return to the world of gambling once we can control ourselves and don't fall back into the gloomy valley, namely addiction to gambling that can forget everything.

Some gamblers ignore the warning because they are desperate to win bigger money. They make wrong decisions about their gambling which only ends up costing them financially. Greed and inability to control gambling urges are some of the reasons why they gamble with borrowed money, but it is a horrible experience to tell.

I have seen several such cases coming from some of my friends. So far I don't want to tell you much about their gambling habits, but they have reached the stage of make loan for gamble and running away from reality to repay the loan.

Never ever in my life which i did make a loan just for the sake of gambling but rather i do make up some loans for it to be put up in business on which i would say that this is definitely worth rather than on making

yourself that giving out priority in speaking about leisure or entertainment thing.You would really be needing to repay those amounts in due time and its not something that wont really be that looking good because of those interest and if it keeps on piling up? Then this is where real and huge problem would exist or do happen in terms of finances. This is something that you should really be that thinking up carefully
on which trying out to balance on what are the things which is good and which is bad. You wont really be that so dumb on not to distinguish among the two.

Gamble on the amount which you can afford to lose, or on something that it do came from your extra money and not something came from those necessities budget or something that important or simply with
priorities. Its true that on the time  that you had paid up all of those things or already bought then you do see some change with those spending then this is the time that you would considering on snipping
out some amounts for you to gamble on.

True, and this is the right approach, because, as they say, everything needs to be done in moderation. It's like wine, which in small quantities acts as useful and as an antistress, and in large quantities can destroy a whole life. But unfortunately, because of the chemical reactions in the body caused during games, it is not so easy to give them up. When we play and win, a lot of serotonin and dopamine are produced. And few classes can give these hormones as much. Therefore, during the period of suspension from the game, the world may seem boring if there is no worthy hobby.

It is the desire to win bigger money that triggers them to borrow money so they can continue playing gambling and they can even increase the stakes so they can win bigger wins. But that's just a hope that they don't know can come true or will only be a hope but mostly, they will only add to the number of losses that are getting bigger. And it is true that greed will drive gamblers to spend more money than usual and only because they want to win more money but in the end, they will lose more too.

Borrowing money to gamble will not give you more hope of winning. And if they could think about the risks involved, they might think twice or more about borrowing money to gamble.

That's why it all boils down to discipline. If you aren't disciplined enough and you don't plan to become one anytime now or in the future, then don't engage in any gambling activities. Gambling requires not only money, but also enough mental capacity and discipline to handle all temptations that might come into your way the moment you start gambling. If you will fall for the urges and temptations everytime, then you are doomed to fall. It's not an easy process to be a responsible and disciplined person, but you have to be willing to in order to have a good gambling experience.

Gamblers shouldn't let their desire overtake their rational judgment because it will just cause trouble and headache. Additionally, it's more fun to play without thinking anything that might come at you and bother you in the middle of your game or your peaceful sleep at night knowing that you have no obligations to pay other than the necessities.

Taking loans was meant for the purpose of difficult circumstances, but addicted gamblers made different utilization of this opportunity, gambling and wasting their time on it without any beneficial outcome. Ignorance is another thing that have inflicted so much pain on gamblers, they tend to face the repercussions of their actions which always ends in debts. Gambling with loan money is absolutely wrong and never good proceeds. There's always a negative energy that follows that, the scenario is not basically what we should witnessed.

I think the loan which the OP pertains on this topic are those from the forum lending section by user here. They are not asking loan because of difficult circumstances but rather they just want to advance their salary here in the forum so that they can have fun. I don't see any major concern on this case because they have the means to repay the loan amount on time.

This case is different for those gamblers that loan huge amount of money that is already over their salary because they are spending an amount which they don't have the capacity to pay.

Yes, the truth is, and I have never lent money to play in a casino, in fact I was about to lend, but when I was a novice and thank God I never did, I thought I knew the strategies of craps very well and that he could get a lot of money from gaming platforms, but he was a rookie, with a mind where he saw possibilities where there weren't any, that was a stage where the blows taught one to be a little more mature and have respect about the casino, its games, and learning to lose without losing control because at all times things can be avoided by having good control and especially of money, and managing or trying to manage impulses, because emotions are what it is. something that is very difficult.

But I like to see some things that the players do and try to get the most out of them according to the experiences of others, it is also something that is used to avoid making those mistakes, on one occasion I was about to borrow money here in the forum, however, I did not do it and that was a cause of force majeure, but as I could I managed to solve without having to do it, it is not bad to borrow money, it is a business where you can benefit and solve a problem instantly, but that, afterward, there remains the Commitment to pay the interests+capital on time, and that is something that has to be sacred, there can be nothing more than Clarity.

The players who risk asking for Loans , I consider that they are people who the next day or in the shortest time pay off that loan, but it is what I imagine, if there is a person who does not have the ability to pay, they should not look for loans, because It will simply look bad, it is not advisable, and even less for a casino and betting on it, I consider that irresponsible if it is done by a person who does not have an immediate payment cap, or at least who does not have it within a period of time acceptable, it is about giving advice so that no one falls in that case,  but each person is the owner of their Actions.

If thats the case then i dont really see any problems to it on which they are really that capable on repaying those loans plus those lendors would really be eventually check if they would be granting a specific amount

or whats been asked basing on their weekly pay. So there's really that kind of limitation which they do really have the ability on repaying it on time. I dont see this to be wrong since signature campaign payment isnt really that big or something that you do mind but spending 80-100 bucks per week is still that significant if you are playing on straight 4 weeks and this amount would really be something more useful if you do make it use on other means but well its their money so its their full rights on what they should gonna with those. Having some loans is never been that a bad idea as long you are really that responsible on paying it back
then i dont really see any problems.

If on the time that you are already that taking a loan just because you are planning yourself on getting rich with gambling, then this is where huge problem would really be starting to come out.
Bad decision making due to unrealistic expectations and views would really be leading into disaster if you cant really be able to stop it midway. This is why it would be always that suggested that you should
really be making use of your common sense sometimes.  :)

The lenders only lend the few amount based on their monthly income.So it's the gambler responsibility to keep the loan amount below the monthly income all the time.Then the approval of loan doesn't very complicated one.Some gamblers will use their weekly pay for the gambling which is the best option.So you no need to get loan at the loss,the forum also providing loan for the weekly payment getting people.So you can get the loan of 3 weeks payment with the payment period of 4 weeks.So you don't get into any loss,then you will have the one week payment to balance the interest for the loan.

I only experience this when I was in my teenage days, back then the local internet cafe that I used to play or hang out was the main shop that the locals would go to play and have some bets on their games.
Back then I know the players who would have a match so I know how good they were compared to their enemy team so I am sure that they would win, so I borrowed a small amount of money from my friends and bet on that team to earn and the result was actually how I expect it to be.
But other than that I haven't tried to do it again, I would only borrow to invest or gamble if I am sure of that I would succeed.

And most gamblers have lost discipline when they start gambling because the temptation of gambling can eliminate that discipline. And when the temptation gets bigger while they have lost many times, they decide to take loan money from other people to continue playing gambling. Even though borrowing money from other people cannot guarantee that they will get a win, it can cause more defeats. And they are not aware of it because they want to continue playing gambling and recover losses and get wins.

As long as we can think of gambling as entertainment, it means we are on the right track and won't try too hard in playing gambling. We can also play enough gambling by always paying attention to the duration of playing gambling so that we can adjust when it is time to stop gambling. That will prevent us from experiencing the many problems that might arise when playing gambling or after playing gambling.

A classic mentality when there's a local bet and you really trust the players that will be playing, you will going to try to bet with them even to the extent that you will barrow money as you really believe that they are in the good edge, lucky you as the outcome favor your side, as there are instances that a surprise upset take place. Leaving you with regret and a loan that you needed to pay with your allowance, need to adjust to make sure that you will be able to cover that loan money.


Both points are valid, you'll lost your control and that discipline when you start engaging too much, the best way in treating this activity is always be aware of your action, make sure that you are still in control not to allow your emotion and greed to dominate you in making any decision regarding to your gambling activities.

Gambling is already a pretty risky thing to do, but using borrowed money to gamble makes it even riskier. When you use your own money to gamble, it's already stressful, and I don't think we can make the right decisions when we're dealing with borrowed money – that's a lot of pressure. What I've noticed is that many gamblers turn to loans after they've already lost all their money and are trying to recover their losses. But more often than not, this approach leads to even bigger losses and debt.
I think you're mentally strong and have a good strategy, so you might be able to pull this off. Unfortunately, though, most gamblers aren't able to do the same.

Not many have experienced it. Once out of the urge to gamble I used the loan money for the purpose of gambling. The bad thing is with the buying process. After buying bitcoin for the purpose of gambling once I realised I couldn't have done it. Because there is difference in the buying and selling price. Finally the mind thought of gambling to gain the margin paid addition while buying. Started and things went well and I was able to make profit. I could've stopped there, but I didn't and the same made me loss all the loan amount and it took me years to settle the loan amount along with the interest.

Confidence is only limited to the adrenaline produced from positive thinking, you never know the end result before something starts. Borrowing money to gamble or invest has risks that can cause psychological problems when you have difficulty paying it, especially if you borrow money from moneylenders that must be paid on time plus interest. It is necessary to reconsider all the risks associated with using borrowed money to gamble or invest. If the amount is small, it may not have a big impact, but if the amount is large, it will have negative effects that have never been imagined before.

And always try to reduce that activity so we can still have control and discipline. However, limiting our gambling activities can keep us sober and not try to follow our emotions and egos, which can cause us to lose more money. And greed will dominate us to continue gambling activities until we really can't control it anymore and fall into the gambling trap. And it will get worse when you play gambling using borrowed money because apart from losing, you must also be able to return the loan money. If not, your life will be in danger because you will be chased by people who lend you money.

Not necessarily "reduce that activity" although I would recommend it anyway, but the fact that you always have to make sure that everything is in routine behavior. For addicts and people who have already fallen into the gambling addiction spiral, the best way for you to gain your control back isn't to outright stop from gambling, you'd find withdrawal to be your biggest hurdle and enemy. The best thing you could do for yourself is to create a routine first, for how you would manage your gambling sessions, slowly diminish it over time, replacing the time you could've spent gambling with more productive hobbies instead, and gradually you'd find yourself rid of the gambling addiction stink.

Of course this isn't going to work for everyone especially those that have fallen into destructive behavior, but in a general sense, this is one of the best things you could commit to if you really want to stop gambling.

Yeah, I also thought if they stopped right away, it would confuse their bodies and tell them something was wrong with this. Maybe they can start by slowly reducing their gambling activities so that their bodies and minds can adjust to these gradual changes. And besides gradually reducing their activities, they need to do other activities so that their minds are awake and not thinking about gambling. Over time, if they keep doing their activities routinely and trying to reduce their gambling activities, they will see that they have succeeded in reducing their gambling activities. And finally, they can stop playing gambling and can be free from gambling addiction.

Once they already find that alternative routine, they will be able to maximize their time and mindset thinking of other things outside gambling, doable but for sure it's tough than how we describing it, there are many gambling addicted people who seek for help from both professionals and their love one's assistance.

It's not something that you can just adjust if you are already in a deep addiction. There are other things that need to support your will to
stop, and most of the time it's someone who is really close to you, aside from professional help.

If we don't have a strong will to leave gambling or reduce gambling time, it's indeed difficult to do and it's all up to them. And before gambling addiction gets bigger, we should be aware of it and seek help as soon as possible to prevent it from worsening.

The important thing is that we are open and willing to contact or ask for help from others when we feel something is wrong with our lives. This will give us the opportunity to change the lifestyle that we may have lived for a while so that we can change a better lifestyle. Gambling is entertainment and we must not get so immersed in gambling that we cannot get out easily. That can't be happening.

That is addiction for you. People who are addicted don't reason if taking loan to play gamble is unwise,  they do not care if they lose or not , they do not care about the interest that is involved in the loan,  they just have that believe that they will always win. A person with a normal sense of mind will never think of taking loan to play gamble because it is not guarantee their will be a win at the end of the game. Addiction can cause a gambler to do things that can make one to wonder if the reason faculty of a person is working or not.  People who normally take loan to gamble are those who think playing gamble is the easiest way to make money.

Those who are addicted won't think twice before borrowing money from anyone. Last time I saw a topic here wherein the grandfather kidnapped his own grandson. They are basically mindless freaks and have no shame in doing anything to satisfy their addiction. Using loan money is the worst a gambler can do. The simple reason is that it is a debt trap and the chance of gamblers losing everything to repay the loaned amount is highly likely in this case.

Loan sharks are always out there searching for such buffoons, when they find one they will be very polite and courteous. They will offer loans without any collateral but with a high interest. A gambler would fall for their trick and would agree with the T&C without even realizing the outcome of not being able to repay. This situation gets very bad when a gambler loses the loan money and doesn't have any solid income to repay. My opinion is that it is the end for a gambler and if someone here is highly addicted then stay away from such loan sharks.

Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

No one is born a gambler with bad reputation or gambling addicts, they all learn it at the course of their relationship with other people around them and the kind if environment they were subjected to, to me it's a decision we all would have been in the same condition but made the right choice of not being addicted, those that are addicted to gambling does not see anything bad in what they do, they see it as normal way of a gambler kind of lifestyle until they begin to see the consequences unfavourable to the before taking note of what they are doing, so no one is born with addiction, we acquire it through divers means, we can decide not to allow such anymore.

I think its wrong that some people are born to become gambling addict its all about self control man, some people might like to speculate since they really favour the adrenaline, heck
even outside gambling platform there are countless people trying to speculate with future trading, even spot trading is not even spared from these speculators.
its even said that they are the reason cryptocurrency have this much trading volume in the first place.
but with the will of self control someone could easily manage their financial, gambling isn't gonna make them bankrupt with self control.

This sounds very strange, do you really believe that a person can be born to eventually become addicted to gambling? Most likely, everything happens the other way around, when a weak-willed person is fond of gambling, he lacks an understanding of what is happening and emotions prevail over common sense. Maybe someone even has this excessive obstinacy, but in the end, a thinking person knows when to stop, but an addict does not understand this.

You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.

I think in gambling none of them are intentionally born to be addicted, I'm sure most of them actually don't want something like that to happen to them and they will regret it, they have chosen the wrong path at the beginning to get to this point of addiction. And also for the problem of why they can be fond of gambling to the point of addiction, I think it depends on a person's personality, if they have a personality that is easily provoked and provoked then I think it will be very likely that they are addicted, as we know that curiosity has continued to push us to gamble, so it's true as you said for someone who is weak-willed it is very likely to experience it. They don't realize anything that has happened to them, and they will continue to chase victory without the slightest awareness of the various risks that will come to them. Therefore in conditions like this in my opinion there must be one of his colleagues or family who continues to remind them with some suggestions so that their minds return to normal and realize.

Actually all of us know and understand about it but in certain circumstances, we took the wrong decision due to some reasons such as stressful or greed.
Before they are addicted, there is a process and all of us start with the same but in the process we may take different action.
Those who are addicted are those who take the wrong decision by ignoring their self control.


Absolutely there is no one who is born to become like that, it is all about freewill, and addiction is the effect of the freewill taken by people.
And there is no one who want to be born to become addicted, not only gambling but also in other things.
If you say that they were born to be addicted, you are blaming the God who create us.

Like all human behaviors, addiction is shaped by evolution, society, and individual events. It seems too simple to label it a lack of reason. You assume gamblers only bet because they think they will always win. What if there's more? What if gambling's excitement, volatility, and rule-free environment provide gamblers something unique?

Your narrow loan vision is funny too. The world operates on credit, pal. Country, company, and person are all in debt. And a gambler taking out a loan disturbs you? Ha  :-X For the belief that gambling is an easy method to make money, there are many examples of overnight millionaires. Calling it a dream despite its peril demonstrates a surprising lack of analysis.

But there must be ways to strengthen our will, like having an inspiration. Why you are deciding to stop gambling? Is it because of your family, wife/gf, or others? We shouldn't say "it's all up to them". If they are struggling, we need to help them. Imagine if the same thing happen to us and they will say the exact words. We can feel hopeless.

Sometimes people don't make a move if their condition is not yet worse but starting from now, we better not be confident and do some sacrifices than to regret. So, many people are keeping their gambling activity as a secret and the more they will do it if they are addicted already. Maybe these people will try to seek help online because they can mask their identity there.

Gambling addiction is something we can acquire by regularly playing bets to the extent that it becomes part of us and if we are not able to control the urge, we can end up becoming addicted to Gambling. Addiction happens always when we keep during something over and over again especially something that will gain pleasure in that makes us happy.

Many people gain pleasure in gambling because it gives them money that is why they will keep gambling no matter the advise that is given to them to stop. Even in smoking, there are people that are addicted to smoking and if we don't try our best to resist the urge, we might become addicted to it for ever .

Why will a gambler utilized loan money for gambling in the first place, it absolutely makes no sense. Loans are taken for budgeting purposes, not gambling, and they have implications that we might never exist after encountering. Gambling with a solid mental balance will undoubtedly lead to gambling with an estimated amount of money, rather than the other way around. When it comes to gambling, we feel more pressure to do what we think is right, but we often forget that the chances of succeeding are 50/50. It's as simple as that: our results either result in profits or loses.

Agree, the mistake of a gambler is not being able to control himself and be disciplined. I actually like to play gambling-like games, like poker, dominoes etc. But I play gambling, there are still limits and I can control myself because I consider it only for entertainment. Every now and then I want to try to play when I lose, but think again, because thinking too much eventually makes me lazy to make plans to play gambling. Because for me there is a fund limit for playing gambling, if the limit is up then I will stop and play again the next day. To play gambling, you must be smart in making postal funds that must be issued. Don't let when we lose we can't control it and in the end we do it again.

To me, the psychology of a gambling addict, he will stop gambling, not when he wins big, but when he has nothing left to bet.

Yes if we will not stop ourselves even though we are losing too much, expect that we will soon fall into addiction. Using loan is not good option in gambling because it will only add interest , and being a winner in gambling is not 100% sure and you cannot predict what will happen, if you will make that money grow or you will be in larger debt. That is why people who did these kind of thing fall into addiction.

Self control really matters alot in gambling and it's those that lack self control that would fall victims to becoming addicted and getting to the stage of wanting to loan money for gambling activities, something that has very high risk, it might sound insane but things like this happen regularly in our society, you'll hear of cases where someone use their tuition fees or rent money to gamble and end up doing awful things like getting drunk or suicial attempts when they lose, all these are due to lack of self control because one that does won't even consider taking the risk matter how sure they're about the game they're betting on.
 That mentality of wanting to quit when you recover your lost or when you have nothing to bet with is very poor and such people would end up losing everything they have to gambling or become serious addicts because the more you try to win the house is the more you stand a chance of losing more.

This is a very rational statement which is being said by a rational person,even if you maybe a gambler based on what you say that loans are for budgeting purposes makes you a very rational person and that is a good thing.The problem though is that gamblers who are deep down in addiction or near falling to it will not think that cold headed and will just say that I get this loan and I win money,deep down they think they will win with this money but unfortunately for them it is a dead end tunnel which you have a lot of difficulties turning back and getting out from there.

Yeah, because even if luck permits them to win instead of quitting they will continue to seek for more, instead of paying their loans they will try to make more money and in the end of the session they will end up with an empty pocket, that greed and wrong thinking about gambling plus the addiction that already dominating will leave them broke to the point that those lend money won't be able to repay and add more problem on both mental and financial aspects.

Addressing this kind of act and not letting yourself fall from this behavior will let you lessen or completely avoid creating more problems that impacts to your finances.

They understand it. They know control but they are just not resisting because they like it. Once upon a time, some of us are also addicted to gambling games but because not only did we want to win but also enjoy the company of friends playing so we keep doing it.


They really would expect to win and even paid the loan with extra in hand ready to roll out again. This always ends in a disastrous way when the loanee lost the bets and couldn't pay the debt.

In a loan business, most of them are going to check what kind of job a person has and whether he has properties before he is allowed to take a loan. In the forum though, all you need is collateral. Back in the day, the account can even be used as collateral.

Yes, one is usually born with addiction not gambling addict friends and environment but in case of addiction it usually depends on the person if he can keep himself under control then it is possible to stop the addiction. There are many gamblers who suffer from adverse conditions, but the addiction to winning is exacerbated by gambling. Many people suffer from family turmoil due to gambling addiction. People do not become addicted to gambling only to gain financially it is also a type of mental illness.

A gambling addict has lost self-control when he has become a gambling addict and he will not be able to have self-control anymore. But if he can realize that he is addicted to gambling and wants to have self-control, he will have to try very hard to regain self-control. That's why he needs to practice self-control from time to time so that he doesn't lose control when playing gambling and can avoid gambling addiction after playing gambling for a while.

And people who have become gambling addicts will always try to have money even by borrowing money from other people to play gambling again. And when he did borrow money from other people, he would only get new problems that would arise every time.

People who decide to stop gambling must have good reasons for doing so. And they will try to really be able to stop gambling to achieve their goals. Everything is "all up to them" because they determine it while we only help them to solve their problems. Some people really want to stop their gambling habit, and he tells the people closest to him the truth that he wants to stop gambling. The people closest to him will help him so he can really stop and even though we say "it's all up to you," those who really want to quit will want to try it. Only people who don't want to give up gambling will hesitate to decide.

It is also possible that people who want to stop gambling really want to stop gambling but they feel proud and ashamed to tell the truth and feel they should try to work it out on their own. And maybe they can find a solution from the internet and start rehabilitating themselves. But it's best if people around him want to accompany him in rehabilitating himself from gambling addiction so that he can be excited to stop gambling immediately and cure his gambling addiction.

it's ludicrous to assume that everyone who gambles is in desperate need of some sort of intervention or salvation. Sure, some might have gotten themselves into a bit of a mess, but to generalize that everyone needs this "circle of trust and care" is nothing short of naive!

Stopping gambling because someone else tells you to is just as silly. If someone wants to gamble, they should have the freedom to do so responsibly. Not everyone who walks into a casino or places a bet online is a hapless addict. Some of us can handle a bit of fun without losing our minds over it.

And this whole notion of "searching the internet for a solution"? Give me a break! If people want to stop, they'll stop. If they don't, they won't. Simple as that. They don't need a support group every step of the way.

Exactly, learning about gambling on your own might be straightforward. However, once addiction sets in and problems arise, breaking free from it becomes challenging, although not impossible. While we can find advice online about how to overcome this issue, it remains ineffective without the support of individuals we can confide in. We often deceive ourselves, making it difficult to address a gambling addiction if we're not genuinely committed to resolving it.

Therefore, let's begin by identifying the root cause of the problem. Whenever possible, it's best to avoid it altogether, as prevention is consistently more effective than seeking a cure later on.

Even though gambling should be just for entertainment, not more so for profit and money, why do you have to make loans to get lucky, that's obviously not very good, in the end everything will get worse because gambling with borrowed money will not bring good results, so why Gamble with money you can afford to lose, not with borrowed money.

Usually, in some cases, people gamble with borrowed money because they want to try their luck again, so that the previous defeat destroyed them, so for them to take a fast way is to borrow money to gamble again, but in most cases, in the end, gamblers who are in debt will end tragically like suicides and others. The point is, never approach gambling if you really don't have money because gambling is a hobby that is quite a waste of money.

Every gambler knows this, but we cannot deny that some gamblers are still skating over a knife by putting themselves in a bad position for borrowing some money just for the sake of gambling and not just to entertain themselves for a few couple of hours. In most cases, gamblers do this because they are chasing for the money that they've lost because otherwise, it wouldn't lead them to this very position where more debts are almost inevitable.

When there is already a problem of Addiction , the person lends money and does not use it wisely, they just want to use it to quench their thirst for gambling, and more when it starts with a good streak, at some point their conscience tells them that they want and Should stop He plays for his speedy recovery of his entire health, but it is not like that , most of the time this type of player does things that one has no idea where he comes from , in particular they always do things to find a way to play, which I have also heard about the case that you Mention, around here in these parts there are things that are said, here they kidnap themselves and blame Armed groups that are quite dangerous and all with the aim of Telling them and taking money from their own families, that It is something that occurs and I thought it was only here, it turns out that they have had these sick Ideas in other countries, the truth is that addiction does not make people sad because all the time they are looking for a way to play and play, Some people can't stand the Pressure and Steal , or kill themselves, that's Unfortunate , that's why when it comes to an ea porblam you have to tend with the greatest possible urgency, because we don't know the limits of that Person and we don't know with what things are going to get into or what crazy ideas are going to be executed or come out.

Sometimes I have Noticed that people lend money as easily as possible without considering the responsibility that this entails, they only lend it like going to the supermarket and looking for a soda and Drinking it , that is , they do not care that it is It is important, that not only his word is pledged but his entire Reputation, that the Person who lends is because he wants to help and not because he wants to become an enemy with that person, who has to pay him his interest and his Conditions because if it was done , that is something that is already part of Both of us , so these things are not given Importance, and not only the people who are dedicated , I have seen that many lend money and take it lightly, I do not say anything to the person millionaire, because eos pays it once, but a person of normal Means to middle class must have greater responsibility.

Most of those kinds of gambler who take loans to continue playing or betting are addicted gamblers who needs help to stop their addiction, just the same with what you said, those who are trying to chase their losses that resort to barrow money to try recovering mostly turned to another bad position, losing the amount that they barrow and look for another resources or try to find someone who can lend them money, it adds up with the problem that's been created from the previous loans that being done.

People who choose to pursue gambling not for fun or as entertainment, it is certain that the percentage of failures will befall them. In fact, every gambler knows that if they continue to chase the lost money then there are two choices, namely to win and be able to return the lost money or lose which will add to problems and worsen their condition.
But most gamblers are not aware that they will face the problem of gambling addiction and prefer the risk to continue to chase their lost money and expect a bigger return because they have been consumed or influenced by the suggestion system that is built in gambling, namely as if they will win for a while again.

They can't get of themselves and there's no resource for them anymore and that's why they're borrowing money to gamble. That's a common mistake we do see from the addicted gamblers and they will only realize it when they're already done or once they look at how much money they have borrowed to gamble. Very unwise move as we can see from them but that's what they think is a best move for them to keep on track with their gambling activities. Soon, it's not just all about borrowing but also with the potential of selling everything they own and the assets that they have if they will still be caught having no emotional control.

Not necessarily no resources anymore because these people will never get a loan if the loaning company does not see any capability of the person to pay.  More or less the loanee have the capability to pay because there is a source of income attached to their application like their daily jobs. This gambler may just don't have patience to wait for his salary that is why he loaned money for gambling.



I agree, it is really unwise to gamble with the loan money.  There are lots to lose here since when loaning, we need to pay for the interest and the amount we loaned.  Then playing on gambling platform and losing them all simply means our next payday is already committed.  This will bring us financial shortage and the start of headache for us.

On the time that you do find yourself that you are already taking some loan just for you to make some gambling activity or simply likes to play then this is a solid or indicative sign that you are already addicted to it which is something that you should really be controlling or getting rid of it while its still early or the damage isnt severe yet, because on the time that you do just ignore or simply tolerate it then sooner or later you would be able to find out on whats the devastating damage of gambling in someones life and this is why we should really be careful on taking up decisions or else you would definitely suffer.

Who would be on their right minds on taking up some loan just for you to gamble if you do know that the risk on losing those loan amount is higher than on winning yourself on gambling? There's no point on doing so
unless if you are really that planning to burn out some cash then its your choice but not something that wise on doing so. Lots of people been that ending up on a disaster.
Play for entertainment and not for income source or money because this is where desperation do really starts.

And that won't stop them because they're determined to do what they think that suits them and that's to pursue gambling not as entertainment but to make money out of it.

That's always the two possible outcome.

I think that most knew it, they're gambler once and for all and they know the impact of it in continuous run. Whether they chase losses, do it for fun or for the profit.

Experience have really taught me alot from gambling, I've learned to control myself and whatever I do concerning gambling, with my calculated amount of money. Gambling can be enjoyable often times, when one keeps streak winnings in the space, that's certain good time to repay loan and get better standing in the space. Gamblers taking loans to gamble are probably taking 100% risks, first when they lose, they become more depressed and desperate to bounced back to gambling inother to pay back or recover his loan money which will only leads to making more losses.

Not everyone understands their responsibilities while gambling. Most of them lose their responsibilities when gambling and causes them to experience more losses than before. Why is that ridiculous? Indeed the reality is like that. Take a look at yourself. What will be the consequences if you can't take care of yourself while playing gambling? Don't you want to survive and be able to get out of gambling at will? That's why you have to have a responsibility to get out of gambling without thinking about what has happened to you and before things get worse. People often stop gambling because they have run out of money. Even though they could have stopped gambling while the money was still there, they lost control and could only stop when the money was gone.

Looking for solutions from the internet can be done especially if there is a strong desire from someone who has experienced a problem. Many people are looking for how-tos, tutorials, or lessons about something from the internet, and they can find it. It's just the will to find it and not just empty talk. If they want to stop gambling, they can do it but the problem is how many can and how many can't. Most people cannot stop before they have lost a lot of money or even until the money runs out before they can stop gambling. Do you want to stop gambling until the money runs out? Or do you want to stop while the money is still there? It is everyone's choice.

A gambler isn't suppose to take loan money to gamble in the first place because it is absolutely unnecessary and uncalled for at all considering the risk involved in gambling, there is no justification to do that if the money borrowed is lost to bettings after incurred losses definitely such a gambler will be wretched and rekted thus the chances of recovering from the debt will be very difficult and could even lead to the gambler selling off some of their properties to settle their debts those without a property will resort to commit suicide, I implore any gambler who intended to take loan for gambling to stop and desist from doing so because of the consequences.

Exactly. In gambling the returns are not guaranteed therefore it's not really right to take a loan just to continue playing. It's one of a sign that a gambler is out of control since he can't stop despite of not having a money of his own. Although not all who are doing this are already addicted since it depends on the reasoning.

I also know a gambler who resort to borrowing money to use in gambling but able to repay the loan regardless of the outcome of his gambling activity. It's a responsible gambler who's aware of the risk but still opted to take a loan since he is confident that he can pay the money without issues. Nevertheless, if you can, don't borrow just to gamble. Use your own money, if you do not have, much better to control yourself to stop for a while until you have money of your own that can spend for gambling.

looking for a solution to stop gambling activities looking for recommendations on ways from online it not a problem and its very natural for me but regarding success or not it seems like its unlikely to succeed and most likely will fail because stopping gambling activities especially if you are already addicted it seems like it will be very difficult if there is not help or solutions from the next of kin because if you have help or solutions from the family you can monitor your activities every day and can be warned if you make a mistake again.

it is very difficult if a gambler who has often bet uses borrowed money because they will always have a way to borrow money and still be able to bet like my friend in 2016 I know him from meeting at a hangout and what I know where he lives is not far from my location but it turns out that after knowing him for more than 1 year he is not originally from around here but he is a person outside my city who moved here only because he was chased by a large amount of debt used for gambling and here he also borrowed money until the total was very large just to gamble and finally he left from the city I moved places to find new prey to borrow money to gamble again. its like an insane addiction.

Yes, I agree with your opinion, if someone has experienced gambling addiction, chances are he cannot control himself because of the desire to always win, and is even willing to borrow money to play gambling continuously even though without realizing there will be risks. that she would accept if she didn't take responsibility for it. borrowing money. So someone who is going to play gambling must be able to control himself so as not to overdo it in gambling because expectations do not always match the reality that we will experience later.

It is true that the individual's will to be able to stop is the main and most important thing, but don't forget that the support of other people, especially from those closest to you, for a gambler to be able to stop is also very important and effective. Because just like other addictions, the support of people around is also very helpful to be able to reduce someone's desire to gamble again. Other people can give advice or words which might help gamblers to be able to fight their desire to gamble and many people have proven this that they can stop gambling with the help of other people.

I believe anyone that can take a loan to gamble is already addicted to gambling, and most of them are finding it difficult to stop. Some addicted gamblers don't still believe they are addicted, and whenever you want to advise them, they will end up telling you they are not addicted and they know what they are doing, but some of them will admit that they are addicted and they really need help to stop the addiction. But it's really bad to take out a loan just because you want to gamble. When gambling, you are not sure that you are going to win. If you end up losing, how will you be able to pay back your loan?

Chasing losses has really landed lots of gamblers in trouble. That's why, when gambling and you are losing, it's better to just stop rather than try to win back your loss. You can come back another day to enjoy your gambling, but most people think if they continue gambling, they will win back the amount they have lost, which at the end the will end up losing more money.

Yes, most of them choose the wrong path, so they look for quick alternative ways that they don't need to do. In fact, this method is not highly recommended because going into debt and borrowing money is not a good way to gamble, let alone chase defeats. After all, why are they still gambling, if in the end they still hope for money what is lost can come back while gambling is full of risks of loss.

If only many gamblers were aware of the risks, maybe they would not make this wrong decision by borrowing money from anyone, especially moneylenders, because that would be very dangerous for the future, if they could not pay their debts and failed, of course, this would be a sharp weapon that kills themselves. I always remind my friends who are gamblers not to go into debt to gamble, play when they have money and stop if they don't have money.

A gambler uses loan money for gambling because they are addicted to gambling and they also think that they can win something significant if they take a big risk without thinking about the negative aspect where one might lose everything instead of winning something good. I have such people living around me, they don't have any jobs, and their families are suffering from poverty, meanwhile, they take loans from here and there and gamble with it.

When they are asked why they do this, they reply that they thought they will get something significant if they take a bigger risk and gamble with higher bets, but what happens is what is always expected, losing everything to the house and then thinking about how to repay the loan since it has been lost.

They have thought it wrong because that kind of move is definitely not called as taking a big risk in the hopes to get big profits; that's not how it used to be. You should only use excess funds in doing this kind of stunt because that way, you'll be safer as nothing will bounce back to you if eventually you will be lost and surely, it wouldn't be a big deal because in the first place, it's an extra money where you can afford to lose. Borrowing money is just a shortcut to more debts.

And they will be on never-ending cycle where it will be difficult for them to break, unless someone can help them to get out from that certain situation but if they made their activities secretly including their family, then I'm afraid to say that they will be there in that cycle long enough before someone from the family will realize that they are into a very deep loop where problems are already worse because of the debts they've been into.

Of course this situation can be helped and will not be a problem, if only gamblers are more open and transparent to their own family.

As far as I watched interviews with addicted players, the outcome of their addiction is 90 percent loss of family. No loving woman will calmly look at how the living conditions of their married couple are constantly getting worse, until furniture or appliances disappear from the apartment. Nevertheless, if an avid gambler comes to his senses and decides to change his life for the better, then his wife (or girlfriend) will always be happy about it.

After all, our women believe in us, and very often this is the reason for gambler to look at himself from the outside and realize how much the addiction has changed life for the worse.

And if there is a small child, then he can be a very strong motivation for the player to change and be treated. After all, there is no reason in this world stronger than taking care of your child.

So, we're invoking evolution to justify gambling addiction now? Humans, throughout history, have indulged in activities that provide immediate gratification, irrespective of the long-term consequences. It's our primitive wiring. Yet, aren't we, as Homo sapiens, supposed to be more evolved? Your argument is paradoxical! Just because the partner or child might be a reason to quit doesn't change the fact that the addiction shouldn't have started in the first place. We need to take responsibility for our actions, not hide behind weak justifications.

Women are too emotional and they do not withtand whenever things are going bad. Men can easily sell their property and use it for another thing but a woman selling a property will make it look as if she is going down emotionally and financially. That is their nature the they attach too much importance to everything. Without them being girlfriends or wives, there are supposed to be many more gambling addict and other types of adding but for the sake of women and their emotions and the love men have for them some persons tend to withdraw when about being addicted or most times they agree to go for therapy in order to repent from addiction just because of wife and family.

Yeah, make sense that their main resource is just their salary and they're allowed to loan based on how much they're earning. And when they've got no money anymore, that's how they're resolving their issue of having no money by taking a loan. But that's not even solving a problem instead, it's making a new one.

It is a reason why I don't take any loan just for gambling. If I wanna have fun, it's very simple and I don't use any loaned money but my personal money whether it's for recreational activities like gambling or if I want to earn some as I gamble. But typically, when I gamble, I make sure that I'll just have to lose that money eventually.

It is rather paradoxical that at the same time, the majority of those suffering from gambling addiction are men (who sell property, lose their last money, etc.)  ;D It turns out that emotionality in women and men simply lies in different areas, because in gambling, men are 100% more emotional and women, on the contrary (against the background of men), look like cold-blooded intellectuals.

Well, it is logical that women perceive financial losses much more emotionally than men, because the upbringing of children is mostly carried out by women and maternal instinct is usually stronger than excitement, which can not be said about men. Although the family and children are almost the only thing that can stop a real player on the edge of the abyss, everything else as a rule does not work, does not frighten neither financial losses, nor the loss of house, car, job, if the passion for the game really makes itself felt.

From the point of view of preserving the family and financial capital, women are much more pragmatic than men.

We all make decisions either with our minds or with our hearts (I mean emotions). And if a player can no longer control himself, this means that he is already making wrong decisions with his mind - his priorities are distorted, and he sees in loans only an opportunity to try to get out of losses (completely ignoring the fact that additional debts can create even more problems for him). Therefore, often an excellent solution for the treatment of a player's addiction is to influence his emotions. And of course, a beloved girl, family, parents and friends are the best solution. Their opinions allow the player to look at himself from the outside. And as a rule, in interviews, dependent gamblers begin to think and recognize the problem at this very moment.

Loans are intended for critical budgeting and perhaps meeting gambling systems objectives. We should be discipline, we're never satisfied with what we have; if we make an excessive amount of money today, we'll be even more frustrated and desperate the next day, because we keen on doubling whatever initial money we generated already. Creating extra money to pay bills without depleting our basic funds will result in significant savings for us in the system. We bet what we can afford to lose in the system and avoid staking what would make things extremely difficult for us.

Yes, you are right because it all depends on the intention of the gambling addict. If he really wants to recover from his gambling addiction, even if he searches the internet for a solution and finds it, he will follow all the instructions given to him without missing a single thing. But if not, he will waste his time looking for a lot of online information and do nothing. But if he seeks help from the people around him and they are people who care about him, surely they will always invite the gambling addict to try and encourage him that he can cure his gambling addiction. There will be people who will always remind him if there is something he hasn't done. Slowly everything will go according to plan until he is finally completely cured of his gambling addiction.

If someone is used to borrowing money from others, it will be easy for him to find people he can borrow money from. And so on until he couldn't find the person anymore because no one would want to believe him because he could never return what he owed them. That person is only looking for his own problems by borrowing money from other people because he shouldn't be doing that, especially since his money is used for gambling where there is no guarantee he can win. But he got guaranteed to lose from gambling and many people have lost from gambling. He should have immediately realized the mistake he made but he didn't and instead,, he continued to make money by borrowing money from other people to use for gambling. It is a circle that he must break but without a strong intention, this will not happen and he will stay in the circle.

A long time ago, I borrowed only once in my life to recoup. This is a very scary feeling mixed with anger and shame towards oneself. I was very lucky that the bet played and I immediately repaid the debt. I have never done anything like this again, and I won't do it. I don't know what would have happened to me now if I hadn't been able to recoup on borrowed funds then.

Now I can afford to borrow only when absolutely necessary. I take this as a matter of principle. And taking loans in order to place a bet or win back is a sign of incompetence and neglect of the elementary basics of financial literacy. But sometimes the desire to recoup is above all other desires. This must be feared like fire and learn from their mistakes.

My advice is as much as possible never to borrow money to gamble unless it is borrowed for something else that might be more productive, even if you are pressured because you lose gambling, don't ever follow those emotions and passions, obviously that will lead us to bad behavior as gamblers, that's clear it will hurt ourselves later if we fail to pay it.

I think we all know that gambling must be wise and responsible, always use money that we can afford to lose, not with borrowed money, that is definitely not recommended, as gamblers, it is clear that this is not a good way to recover from losses, always make sure to limit your budget. gamble so as not to try to get into debt for the sake of gambling.

I agree with this.

It's important that we should be wary of every loan to take and only use it for important matters such as spending it for necessities and for emergency purposes. One must not borrow money intended to be used for luxurious activity such as gambling that is risky to begin with. If you think you'll get profit by betting and playing, you might be right, but be reminded that it isn't guaranteed. Hence, taking your chances to borrow money for gambling use is not really recommended because you can't be certain that you can pay it off before the due date the moment you lose all of it.

Lots of people end up in tragedy once they lose the money that they got from loans because that's when the time they realize they don't have anything anymore and they still have to pay for it. I once watched in the news that a man lost in a casino and brought some guns with him there and shot everyone randomly. This is what happens when you don't really care about playing with the money you borrow from others and don't have any means to pay it back once it is lost. That's why in order to be safe from such tragedy you need to consider the consequences.

That's right, if you gamble using borrowed money then of course you will feel a lot of pressure, especially in gambling it's 50-50 between winning and losing, meaning that it's neutral that no one can know when the win will come. It's too early to think about borrowing to gamble, are you too sure of victory? I think some of the people who end up making loans have a very wrong mindset, where they are too sure of all the wins and have too high expectations there. I hope all gamblers think normally if they don't want to crash in the end. Like the case you mentioned, one of them ended up having a mental breakdown so he did things he didn't expect. This happens because they are too dizzy with the circumstances or the downturn they experience as a result of gambling, they borrow to gamble and lose and vice versa they have nothing to replace the money they have borrowed. So the point is not to overdo it in gambling, gamble with reasonable conditions which are just for fun so you don't get too down in it.

Exactly. You are also doubling the risk of losing the money you do not afford to lose. How will you cover up for these losses, and where will you get the money to repay such borrowings? Gambling is a risky activity that does not guarantee winnings which can lead to financial difficulties. It's important to make responsible financial decisions and avoid taking on debt for non-essential purposes. Remember to always prioritize your financial well-being and make wiser decisions.

Therefore, it is highly discouraged to borrow money just to fulfill the desire to gamble. the real impact that is caused, can end in things that lead to criminal acts as you say in this post. several others, ended his life. in fact we have several threads discussing such things, one of them is like you said. It is very important to realize that behind the pleasure of gambling there are risks involved. when someone gets out of control, and allows himself to be lulled by his excessive gambling activities. the impact is very large, it can be detrimental to ourselves, family, friends, or to take it out on things that are beyond our common sense and reason.

Well, another thing that is very important for us as gamblers to have is understanding, IMO.
it is very important to have a deeper understanding of gambling, how we interpret gambling for ourselves, as well as the definition of gambling itself. without getting involved as I said, most gamblers often get caught up in overactivity. to the extent that, when you have no more money, borrowing is the first option to do. after that, it could lead to something else. that's why, for me it's important to have as I said. thus, we will not be rash to do something reckless or borrow just to satisfy the urge to gamble.

It should be taken into account that there's no guarantee if you are into this gambling activities, same with your sentiment, if you loan or barrow money and use it for your gambling, once you lost the game the option is to barrow again and try your luck and it will be a repeated scenario and if you already out of resources chances of doing illegal things or something that is not usual can happen.

Make sure that you are aware if those things that you are trying to do, especially if you are involving yourself into gambling. Loan money can be a pain in the ass if you suffer from a huge losing streak.

You are really that having that suicide if you do decide on gambling with loan money on which this is something that should really be needing to avoid because if not then for sure you would be finding yourself on huge debt

on which it would be resulting on messing up your financial life and might be ending up with some other shit options like taking suicide or would really be making some criminal acts on which it is really that something
that could possibly happen on a certain individual. Gamble on the money that you do have extra and something that you wont really be using. If you dont have money then better stop and find other ways for you to entertain yourself because if you are really that desperate on doing gambling then you would really be taking up some loan and if you do chase up your losses then likely you would really be messing up your life
if you do keep losing, but if you do win then consider yourself lucky but not all the time it would be something like this.

Why would someone really be pushing that hard or really that desperate on making themselves dealing up with gambling on a borrowed funds? Come to think that you would be basically be spending those
money and you would be needing to pay up interest.

panic often makes people make the wrong decisions and usually, when a borrower has a deadline to pay off his loan, he will do anything to pay it, including selling his valuable assets for that, borrowing money for gambling capital is something that is never recommended, if you have ever heard of someone successfully winning gambling from borrowed capital then believe it is all a lie, don't be desperate to do that, think about your family because the psychological impact will attack your family when they find out that you borrowed from the bank for gambling capital.

I agree with your opinion, that someone will feel dissatisfied with the money they currently have, they think how to get money again, maybe by borrowing money to gamble as if they will always be lucky and win, but this is what we need . it's true that when playing Gambling it's not always smooth, one day you will definitely hurt yourself. It would be nice if we played gambling with the money we have so it doesn't burden our hearts and minds if one day we experience a loss, even though someone needs to borrow money to gamble it would be nice for us to think twice first.

The existence of a money lending service is actually aimed at important things that really urge someone to make a loan and in essence a loan is an aid that should be used as well as possible.
Someone's biggest mistake when borrowing money is just to gamble because they think that the borrowed money can be gambled and won to return losses and also generate some residual profits but in reality no one succeeds by doing this because it is precisely the difficulties that will be encountered a few days later.
Even though some people realize that it is not recommended to gamble with borrowed money, in reality, not a few gamblers lose money and then decide to take out a loan so they can continue their gambling session.

It can only be felt and understood by professional gamblers and those who are still unstable in taking action can never think about things that far.

It's okay if you have an experience like that because it is a valuable lesson for you so you don't repeat it because you already feel how you feel when you are in debt. I would be happy if you never do that again, especially if the money you borrow is only for gambling, whereas if you owe it, it must be for your daily needs. Hopefully, you will never be in debt again and be able to make ends meet and not use borrowed money to gamble.

If you can make it a principle, that's a good thing. At least you have a grip on not being in debt for anything including debt to gamble. That's a big No, you shouldn't do. You can control that desire, especially since you have had previous debt experiences where you felt this discomfort precisely because you have felt that experience that you have to remember to avoid being in debt from other people.

Good advice for me. But this case was with me for a long time, more than 5 years have already passed. And my thinking in gambling has changed for the better. I am sure that I will never borrow money for gambling again in my life. That once was enough.

Good thing it went easy for me. I sincerely feel sorry for those people who, because of a similar situation, have had big problems in their lives. I hope my experience will be an example

Most gamblers want to cover or pay their debts from gambling winnings, they take out loans to gamble and hope that the money will multiply and they will make a profit. But that's not the case at all and it seems highly improbable to someone with a normal mindset. Well right, like I said earlier that it's 50-50, there's no guarantee of any winnings there, and it's neutral. I can't understand how they can convince themselves that winning is so easy to get that they're desperate to take out these loans, it's beyond my comprehension. They want to make a lot of money but in a way that doesn't make sense, on the other hand a win is possible, but it's only 10/1, meaning they will be able to get a win if they have sacrificed ten losses to get one win. Honestly, it's not winning but giving back what we've lost out there. That's right, such a mindset will only make it difficult for themselves, so the point is that if they really want to gamble then use the money they are ready to lose. Accepting all the facts at the end of the game is better than returning to chasing a victory that is only based on luck alone.

This topic is really making me laugh,because I don't know how some persons take expensive risks,borrowing or taking a loan because you want to gamble is a big risk  I can't take or advice anyone close to me to take because the heart trauma that comes when the game you staked on is lost is something very hard to accept.It is true that some persons are lucky when it comes to Gambling or betting,but no game is sure to bet on or stake on,as every game is risky,therefore,me taking a loan or borrowing money for a game I am not hundred percent sure it's a win win game is something I haven't tried before,and something I just can't do.One thing about this type of games is that the expectations from the game you borrowed money for is what gives you high blood pressure if care is not taken.

That only shows the wide variety of people in the world and that's how they're going to take gambling seriously when they don't have anything left. Aside from borrowing money for them to gamble, you'll see some crazy news or headlines that someone has sold almost everything that he can so that he can go back to gamble again. The risk is known in gambling and that's not a surprise to them because they knew it all the time but still continues because of the emotional setback that it does.

It's common that someone can't accept defeat but those that have been gambling for a very long time have been dealing with it. But the variance of feeling is still there so, many ends up chasing their losses.

People who are addicted to gambling do not consider the risk of gambling and because of this they dare to gamble with loans. this is funny but it is very dangerous for those who do it. Gambling is something that one can lose all his money and double his money in just one minute.  And if someone takes a loan and loses that money in gambling, then he has no way to repay the money and at that time people do not hesitate to engage in various illegal activities and commit various crimes.

It is natural that when someone has no opportunity to manage their money, they do not hesitate to commit any crime like theft, robbery, etc. when they have only one focus to collect money. Again it is seen that they borrow from another place and repay the loan in another place, thus they are burdened with huge amount of debt.  So if one does not have his own money then he should not go to bad places like gambling. Gambling does more harm than good

I have been in this position in the past, not because I don't understand the risks but I really want to gamble in a position of not having and to gamble, and yes the method is to borrow money from my closest friends, but that was my bad experience in gambling which will never be repeated, sometimes experience provides important lessons for us not to make mistakes again, because the position is that I get regular terror from friends I borrow money from.
and what's worse is that situation I don't have a job but I dare to borrow money and play gambling.lol

To be honest, I have never tried that, the one where you borrow money just to gamble.
No matter where we look from the very beginning, you will lose immediately because we know that you need to pay with interest. How can it be if what you owe has also been used up, you will only sink further into debt. I  think that those who reach this level are too addicted to gambling and can't think straight so a person can do this. But there are also people, even if they gamble from debt, they are still able to pay it off and there is no problem as long as you pay back what you borrowed even if you lose gambling or anywhere else it doesn't matter.

Yes, sometime we really need to experience it first hand before we learn our lessons. It could be the loan from friends, or even from a bank. But is the worst decision because once you gamble all the money then you will have to think on how to repay then as you lose everything in a casino.

And most likely some of us have experience that bad sign of gambling. Maybe we can't blame our selves that time because we are addicted, but looking back rightn now, I will say that I made the wrong decisions early on because all I want is to continue my gambling habits.

Interest rate is the next part, first one would be when you start losing that borrowed money as later, you need not only be recovering your money back to the original bankroll but the interest rate and also any profits you expect as winnings on this bankroll. It does not feel normal at all when you start losing someone's money knowingly that it's a loan and you will have to return it back with interest at any cost. In my opinion, it isn't a good step to borrow money and gamble because luck cannot favor you every single day.

This kind of thing in my opinion is not something we need to experience as a gambler, if only at that time I heard or saw how the impact of people who borrowed money to gamble maybe I would never do it because I saw and heard directly someone who was destroyed by forcing gambling Without having money until he dared to borrow.
Hope that is made slowly will get a victory to be one of the indicators I dare to take the loan at that time, but in fact luck was not in favor, and I was indeed very stupid at that time.

I hope that there is no one who suffered my fate, even though it does not fall too deep and leaves the debt of millions of dollars, I hope that for others just borrowing 1 dollar to gamble, it is not recommended, because fear will be more sustainable and more brave.

Yes, you are right. At least we can learn from the experiences of those around us or other people who want to share their experiences so that we can avoid the same mistakes as them. We will also do the same by sharing our experiences with them so they can also learn from our experiences. This will be a lesson we can get so that we can be even better in the future. And when you want to gamble, you shouldn't use borrowed money, especially if you find it difficult to repay the loan. It's better not to borrow money from other people to gamble but to wait until we have money that we don't use for things we must fulfill so it doesn't interfere with our finances.

You probably shouldn't call it "natural" then that somebody who has money issues will tend towards committing crimes. Because if it is natural as you say, it doesn't make sense to then say what these people "should not do". You obviously are pointing out that they feel like having no other choice than going for these bad actions. But if people have arrived at a point that they convince themselves to commit crimes to finance their bad habits, good advice doesn't help them anymore. The best for themselves would probably be to get caught, to get punished and to get a therapy. People who gamble too much and harm their lives is one thing, but committing crimes to continue gambling is a different level problem.

yeah with those things that being shared, experienced is the best basis when you wanted to learn about something, and if applying that to gambling it can help lessen or avoid something huge to happen, more on losing a lot and prevent you from being addicted and suffer from your gambling activities, we know that once you got addicted, you can go as to the far in loaning money and for sure if addiction already present there's no control anymore, and you will just add more problem in terms of your finances, unable to repay someone will lead you to loan or barrow more.

But the main problem is that most people do not want to learn from the mistakes of others. I am sure that on our BTT forum, many benefited from the experience of others, including mine. And I'm glad if it saves at least one user from stupid actions.

You can also watch interviews of gamblers on YouTube. I have watched many of these videos. One thing they have in common with our topic is that they all borrowed money for the game at some point, and this is a very disturbing signal for us.

The worst thing about this is that when a person takes out a loan to play, he doesn't think that he will have problems. He is obsessed with winning back the money he recently lost, and he is thinking about it at this particular moment. That's the whole point of gambling addiction.

there should be a higher adrenaline rush if using borrowed money. I know it's not recommended, because it will definitely be difficult for us to pay off the debt plus the interest. but some people must have tried extreme things. I have friends like that. Well, it was profitable at first, but when they lost, they had to endure how to pay off debts and how to support themselves.

And the ones who borrow money are extremely cautious in their betting otherwise a high consequence awaits. They will need to be very careful with how they bet and will find it necessary to win. I guess that is the secret to striving harder  ;D

The accounts that took a loan and never returned with the money are examples of what happened to those who were testing their adrenaline. But it must be satisfying to win a big amount while it comes from nothing.

On the time that you would really be making use of loaned money then you would really be that skeptical on making that reckless moves on your betting since you do know that you are making use of a loan money which you would really be needing to pay it up on the right time and with some interest and this is something that you would really be needing to mind on on which i could say that it is really adding up on the overall stress and desperation because you would really be thinking that you shouldnt really be losing the next one since you already know or had already pictured out on what would be the consequences in speaking about gambling and loan money. Experience would really be that somewhat stressful, i dont believe about that adrenaline kind of experience because if you are really that on your right mind then you would definitely be not considering on doing so
but if you are on the condition on which you are already that addicted with it then pretty sure you would do such bullshit steps and decisions along the way.

don't think the adrenaline rush someone got from using borrowed money would be worth to pay off debts when they are losing big time.
i guess the reason many are using borrowed money for gambling are the fact that they could turn around their lives out of nothing, just one luck is all it takes but man things always could go wrong.
same thing with using borrowed money.

Getting the experience we get or knowing other people's experiences can help us understand or avoid something that might have a bad impact on us. We can also prevent gambling addiction and will not be like other people who cannot limit their gambling so that we can play enough gambling. By knowing what happens to other people when they borrow money to gamble, we will always avoid it and never borrow money to gamble because it will give us problems. We don't want to see that problem happen to us so we will try to make a budget for gambling so we don't have to borrow money from other people. It is very difficult to return loan money from other people, especially if we don't have income because we must repay the loan money.

That's what often happens to people where. They underestimate other people's experiences and make them not want to take lessons from what other people experience. And when they are faced with the same situation, they can handle it but because they don't want to think, they find it difficult to overcome it. Yes, you are right and I am also sure that many people here also learn from other people's experiences to improve their abilities or learn something from other people's experiences.

And when you see a lot of videos about gamblers borrowing money to gamble, we should be able to avoid them because we don't know how to get the money back. It's better for us to gamble with our money and not borrow other people's money. It won't give us any trouble unless we spend the money just gambling for one day.

Using borrowed money for gambling is not uncommon, there is even something more extreme pawning valuable certificates ranging from car certificates, motorbikes to houses used for gambling and several times this has happened in my environment. I don't thin how crazy some one want to get loan and use or deposit to gambling platform account can't promising with profitable or winning, how faced difficult later actually with loan interest payment and how they can get back their most important certificates using as capital for gambling.

Don't blame your self with gambling, its not promising to be rich and enjoy small money if want spent time with gambling.

When someone was feeling so addicted and this guy will do everything as long as he will able to get money for gambling. It's a common thing. This is why controlling our addiction becomes one of most important reason to avoid using loan for gambling purpose.
Even though i can't deny some may try to take the risk by taking a loan used for gambling but that's the reality. Anyone has their own decision regarding what he/she does in his life.

Gambling is gambling. You luck you win, you unlucky and you lose. The reality of gambling, someone can become a rich or poor guy in a short time.

I think it is more like being addicted to gambling will make you do that. That's more reason why people will do everything even borrowing money with interest just to keep on gambling. It's like a cycle where they keep on borrowing money and keep on losing in the hope of winning. However, whatever they do, big winning does not really come in to their hands.
They will also come to the point that they will borrow money to pay off their debts so they can borrow money again ang again.

And people are willing to loan gamblers because they know that they will go in debt and maybe lost their home, cars and everything in the name of gambling. That's why it's really dangerous to really go and loan until you don't know how to pay your debts except some things that you own.

So very hard to see people going down this path. Seen some friends of mine becoming so addicted that now they are homeless and their lifestyle has really change. And it affected not just him but for his children as well. This is the worst gambling can bring to us.

You will be indeed cautious because that's just a borrowed funds, it's not something you can just afford to lose as their are more stakes to it compared to the gamblers who are gambling with their excess funds that they can afford to lose. A failure will just result to a much bigger problem that you might not want yourself into but since you've already borrowed, might as well pick only the specific games where you have more chances to win compared to the opposite.

Agree with this mate nowadays some gamblers borrow some money to fulfill their wants which us to gamble. And we are all know that once you've gamble and using borrowed money is different when you gamble with you exist money. Cause once you will loss then a lot of problem will come cause you need to find a way to replace that money so that you can pay your borrowed one.

Many people are so irresponsible and desperate to get money that they toss precious items away in the name of taking chances, which I believe even requires adequate management to prevent dangers. because I wonder why some people overdo things, I don't think I will be that crazy to bet on my car when am fully aware that the chances of winning are not certain and anything can happen so is better to make a good choice when it comes to finance, and taking a loan is just too reckless, if you have your own money to bet is good but to the extent of taking loan I stand with you not a good decision at all.

Indeed there is adrenaline rush when using someone or borrowed money for gambling and it's highly not recommended at all seeing how will not be at rest and will always feel to be extra careful and in so losing all the funds to the habit because that's same adrenaline rush can be the effect of what made you gamble wrongly because if there is one I know in gambling is that one can never be too careful when gambling because the more you think you been careful the easier and faster you experience losses.

But we can't remove the fact that there are gamblers who will take that big risk thinking that they can easily double or grow their bankroll, to the extent that they are willing to sell precious belongings and taking loans just to place their bets, I think if you are still in control and thinking correctly you won't take that big risk as you know that the worse after effect can really harm your finances.

But, if you are already addicted, then there's something in you that will push it and will try your luck and hope it will favor your side.

Gambling using borrowed money obviously has a 2x risk of loss, besides that it will be burdened with loan interest.  After all, money made from loans won't make you play with focus because you have a strong desire to be able to win the game, but you can't play with full control and expect to win bigger bets so you can cover everything.

      -     What you mentioned is correct; you actually have a point. I see some people in the community here on the forum who borrow loans, and the address they use is from the address of the stakes.com casino, but I think that the others are just a habit with them, and at the same time, they probably also often win gambling.

They get back what they owe with interest, in fact. That means they can still gamble responsibly without getting bad results. That's why the risk is quite high when doing this.

It's sad to see how it ends for someone but there is always a consequence to whatever we do.  A gambler who loses everything and becomes homeless due to his recklessness is sad but it wouldn't be the first to have happened. We've heard of that story long before Bitcoin existed.

But for the users here who took loans, it will be hard for them to take a loan so big to ruin their lives. None will ever give a loan of more than 1 BTC these days. Nonetheless, it's still risky to have lost a gamble and need to pay and interest.