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August 19, 2023, 01:14:09 PM
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And always try to reduce that activity so we can still have control and discipline. However, limiting our gambling activities can keep us sober and not try to follow our emotions and egos, which can cause us to lose more money. And greed will dominate us to continue gambling activities until we really can't control it anymore and fall into the gambling trap. And it will get worse when you play gambling using borrowed money because apart from losing, you must also be able to return the loan money. If not, your life will be in danger because you will be chased by people who lend you money.
Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

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August 19, 2023, 01:26:56 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

No one is born a gambler with bad reputation or gambling addicts, they all learn it at the course of their relationship with other people around them and the kind if environment they were subjected to, to me it's a decision we all would have been in the same condition but made the right choice of not being addicted, those that are addicted to gambling does not see anything bad in what they do, they see it as normal way of a gambler kind of lifestyle until they begin to see the consequences unfavourable to the before taking note of what they are doing, so no one is born with addiction, we acquire it through divers means, we can decide not to allow such anymore.



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August 19, 2023, 01:41:24 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
I think its wrong that some people are born to become gambling addict its all about self control man, some people might like to speculate since they really favour the adrenaline, heck
even outside gambling platform there are countless people trying to speculate with future trading, even spot trading is not even spared from these speculators.
its even said that they are the reason cryptocurrency have this much trading volume in the first place.
but with the will of self control someone could easily manage their financial, gambling isn't gonna make them bankrupt with self control.
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August 19, 2023, 01:45:30 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
This sounds very strange, do you really believe that a person can be born to eventually become addicted to gambling? Most likely, everything happens the other way around, when a weak-willed person is fond of gambling, he lacks an understanding of what is happening and emotions prevail over common sense. Maybe someone even has this excessive obstinacy, but in the end, a thinking person knows when to stop, but an addict does not understand this.

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August 19, 2023, 02:08:31 PM
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I saw many high rank users here that asking for loan and directly deposit the loan amount on gambling account. I want to know what's the experience on using loan money. Is there additional pressure on gameplay or just the same using regular money without an interest rate.
Gambling is already a pretty risky thing to do, but using borrowed money to gamble makes it even riskier. When you use your own money to gamble, it's already stressful, and I don't think we can make the right decisions when we're dealing with borrowed money – that's a lot of pressure. What I've noticed is that many gamblers turn to loans after they've already lost all their money and are trying to recover their losses. But more often than not, this approach leads to even bigger losses and debt.

You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.



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August 19, 2023, 02:11:06 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
This sounds very strange, do you really believe that a person can be born to eventually become addicted to gambling? Most likely, everything happens the other way around, when a weak-willed person is fond of gambling, he lacks an understanding of what is happening and emotions prevail over common sense. Maybe someone even has this excessive obstinacy, but in the end, a thinking person knows when to stop, but an addict does not understand this.

I think in gambling none of them are intentionally born to be addicted, I'm sure most of them actually don't want something like that to happen to them and they will regret it, they have chosen the wrong path at the beginning to get to this point of addiction. And also for the problem of why they can be fond of gambling to the point of addiction, I think it depends on a person's personality, if they have a personality that is easily provoked and provoked then I think it will be very likely that they are addicted, as we know that curiosity has continued to push us to gamble, so it's true as you said for someone who is weak-willed it is very likely to experience it. They don't realize anything that has happened to them, and they will continue to chase victory without the slightest awareness of the various risks that will come to them. Therefore in conditions like this in my opinion there must be one of his colleagues or family who continues to remind them with some suggestions so that their minds return to normal and realize.

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August 19, 2023, 02:28:57 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

Actually all of us know and understand about it but in certain circumstances, we took the wrong decision due to some reasons such as stressful or greed.
Before they are addicted, there is a process and all of us start with the same but in the process we may take different action.
Those who are addicted are those who take the wrong decision by ignoring their self control.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

Absolutely there is no one who is born to become like that, it is all about freewill, and addiction is the effect of the freewill taken by people.
And there is no one who want to be born to become addicted, not only gambling but also in other things.
If you say that they were born to be addicted, you are blaming the God who create us.

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August 19, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
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Some gamblers ignore the warning because they are desperate to win bigger money. They make wrong decisions about their gambling which only ends up costing them financially. Greed and inability to control gambling urges are some of the reasons why they gamble with borrowed money, but it is a horrible experience to tell.

I have seen several such cases coming from some of my friends. So far I don't want to tell you much about their gambling habits, but they have reached the stage of make loan for gamble and running away from reality to repay the loan.
Taking loans was meant for the purpose of difficult circumstances, but addicted gamblers made different utilization of this opportunity, gambling and wasting their time on it without any beneficial outcome. Ignorance is another thing that have inflicted so much pain on gamblers, they tend to face the repercussions of their actions which always ends in debts. Gambling with loan money is absolutely wrong and never good proceeds. There's always a negative energy that follows that, the scenario is not basically what we should witnessed.
That is addiction for you. People who are addicted don't reason if taking loan to play gamble is unwise,  they do not care if they lose or not , they do not care about the interest that is involved in the loan,  they just have that believe that they will always win. A person with a normal sense of mind will never think of taking loan to play gamble because it is not guarantee their will be a win at the end of the game. Addiction can cause a gambler to do things that can make one to wonder if the reason faculty of a person is working or not.  People who normally take loan to gamble are those who think playing gamble is the easiest way to make money.
Like all human behaviors, addiction is shaped by evolution, society, and individual events. It seems too simple to label it a lack of reason. You assume gamblers only bet because they think they will always win. What if there's more? What if gambling's excitement, volatility, and rule-free environment provide gamblers something unique?

Your narrow loan vision is funny too. The world operates on credit, pal. Country, company, and person are all in debt. And a gambler taking out a loan disturbs you? Ha  Lips sealed For the belief that gambling is an easy method to make money, there are many examples of overnight millionaires. Calling it a dream despite its peril demonstrates a surprising lack of analysis.

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August 19, 2023, 06:42:21 PM
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If we don't have a strong will to leave gambling or reduce gambling time, it's indeed difficult to do and it's all up to them. And before gambling addiction gets bigger, we should be aware of it and seek help as soon as possible to prevent it from worsening.

The important thing is that we are open and willing to contact or ask for help from others when we feel something is wrong with our lives. This will give us the opportunity to change the lifestyle that we may have lived for a while so that we can change a better lifestyle. Gambling is entertainment and we must not get so immersed in gambling that we cannot get out easily. That can't be happening.
But there must be ways to strengthen our will, like having an inspiration. Why you are deciding to stop gambling? Is it because of your family, wife/gf, or others? We shouldn't say "it's all up to them". If they are struggling, we need to help them. Imagine if the same thing happen to us and they will say the exact words. We can feel hopeless.

Sometimes people don't make a move if their condition is not yet worse but starting from now, we better not be confident and do some sacrifices than to regret. So, many people are keeping their gambling activity as a secret and the more they will do it if they are addicted already. Maybe these people will try to seek help online because they can mask their identity there.



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August 19, 2023, 06:51:45 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
This sounds very strange, do you really believe that a person can be born to eventually become addicted to gambling? Most likely, everything happens the other way around, when a weak-willed person is fond of gambling, he lacks an understanding of what is happening and emotions prevail over common sense. Maybe someone even has this excessive obstinacy, but in the end, a thinking person knows when to stop, but an addict does not understand this.
Gambling addiction is something we can acquire by regularly playing bets to the extent that it becomes part of us and if we are not able to control the urge, we can end up becoming addicted to Gambling. Addiction happens always when we keep during something over and over again especially something that will gain pleasure in that makes us happy.

Many people gain pleasure in gambling because it gives them money that is why they will keep gambling no matter the advise that is given to them to stop. Even in smoking, there are people that are addicted to smoking and if we don't try our best to resist the urge, we might become addicted to it for ever .

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August 19, 2023, 06:56:21 PM
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You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.
Why will a gambler utilized loan money for gambling in the first place, it absolutely makes no sense. Loans are taken for budgeting purposes, not gambling, and they have implications that we might never exist after encountering. Gambling with a solid mental balance will undoubtedly lead to gambling with an estimated amount of money, rather than the other way around. When it comes to gambling, we feel more pressure to do what we think is right, but we often forget that the chances of succeeding are 50/50. It's as simple as that: our results either result in profits or loses.

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August 19, 2023, 06:59:38 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
Agree, the mistake of a gambler is not being able to control himself and be disciplined. I actually like to play gambling-like games, like poker, dominoes etc. But I play gambling, there are still limits and I can control myself because I consider it only for entertainment. Every now and then I want to try to play when I lose, but think again, because thinking too much eventually makes me lazy to make plans to play gambling. Because for me there is a fund limit for playing gambling, if the limit is up then I will stop and play again the next day. To play gambling, you must be smart in making postal funds that must be issued. Don't let when we lose we can't control it and in the end we do it again.

To me, the psychology of a gambling addict, he will stop gambling, not when he wins big, but when he has nothing left to bet.

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August 19, 2023, 07:09:44 PM
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Gambling addiction is something we can acquire by regularly playing bets to the extent that it becomes part of us and if we are not able to control the urge, we can end up becoming addicted to Gambling. Addiction happens always when we keep during something over and over again especially something that will gain pleasure in that makes us happy.

Many people gain pleasure in gambling because it gives them money that is why they will keep gambling no matter the advise that is given to them to stop. Even in smoking, there are people that are addicted to smoking and if we don't try our best to resist the urge, we might become addicted to it for ever .
Yes if we will not stop ourselves even though we are losing too much, expect that we will soon fall into addiction. Using loan is not good option in gambling because it will only add interest , and being a winner in gambling is not 100% sure and you cannot predict what will happen, if you will make that money grow or you will be in larger debt. That is why people who did these kind of thing fall into addiction.
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August 19, 2023, 07:12:07 PM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
Agree, the mistake of a gambler is not being able to control himself and be disciplined. I actually like to play gambling-like games, like poker, dominoes etc. But I play gambling, there are still limits and I can control myself because I consider it only for entertainment. Every now and then I want to try to play when I lose, but think again, because thinking too much eventually makes me lazy to make plans to play gambling. Because for me there is a fund limit for playing gambling, if the limit is up then I will stop and play again the next day. To play gambling, you must be smart in making postal funds that must be issued. Don't let when we lose we can't control it and in the end we do it again.

To me, the psychology of a gambling addict, he will stop gambling, not when he wins big, but when he has nothing left to bet.
Self control really matters alot in gambling and it's those that lack self control that would fall victims to becoming addicted and getting to the stage of wanting to loan money for gambling activities, something that has very high risk, it might sound insane but things like this happen regularly in our society, you'll hear of cases where someone use their tuition fees or rent money to gamble and end up doing awful things like getting drunk or suicial attempts when they lose, all these are due to lack of self control because one that does won't even consider taking the risk matter how sure they're about the game they're betting on.
 That mentality of wanting to quit when you recover your lost or when you have nothing to bet with is very poor and such people would end up losing everything they have to gambling or become serious addicts because the more you try to win the house is the more you stand a chance of losing more.
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August 19, 2023, 07:17:07 PM
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You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.
Why will a gambler utilized loan money for gambling in the first place, it absolutely makes no sense. Loans are taken for budgeting purposes, not gambling, and they have implications that we might never exist after encountering. Gambling with a solid mental balance will undoubtedly lead to gambling with an estimated amount of money, rather than the other way around. When it comes to gambling, we feel more pressure to do what we think is right, but we often forget that the chances of succeeding are 50/50. It's as simple as that: our results either result in profits or loses.

This is a very rational statement which is being said by a rational person,even if you maybe a gambler based on what you say that loans are for budgeting purposes makes you a very rational person and that is a good thing.The problem though is that gamblers who are deep down in addiction or near falling to it will not think that cold headed and will just say that I get this loan and I win money,deep down they think they will win with this money but unfortunately for them it is a dead end tunnel which you have a lot of difficulties turning back and getting out from there.

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August 19, 2023, 07:23:57 PM
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You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.
Why will a gambler utilized loan money for gambling in the first place, it absolutely makes no sense. Loans are taken for budgeting purposes, not gambling, and they have implications that we might never exist after encountering. Gambling with a solid mental balance will undoubtedly lead to gambling with an estimated amount of money, rather than the other way around. When it comes to gambling, we feel more pressure to do what we think is right, but we often forget that the chances of succeeding are 50/50. It's as simple as that: our results either result in profits or loses.

This is a very rational statement which is being said by a rational person,even if you maybe a gambler based on what you say that loans are for budgeting purposes makes you a very rational person and that is a good thing.The problem though is that gamblers who are deep down in addiction or near falling to it will not think that cold headed and will just say that I get this loan and I win money,deep down they think they will win with this money but unfortunately for them it is a dead end tunnel which you have a lot of difficulties turning back and getting out from there.

Yeah, because even if luck permits them to win instead of quitting they will continue to seek for more, instead of paying their loans they will try to make more money and in the end of the session they will end up with an empty pocket, that greed and wrong thinking about gambling plus the addiction that already dominating will leave them broke to the point that those lend money won't be able to repay and add more problem on both mental and financial aspects.

Addressing this kind of act and not letting yourself fall from this behavior will let you lessen or completely avoid creating more problems that impacts to your finances.

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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

They understand it. They know control but they are just not resisting because they like it. Once upon a time, some of us are also addicted to gambling games but because not only did we want to win but also enjoy the company of friends playing so we keep doing it.

You should not gamble if you feel stressful whenever you gamble even if you are using own money. Gambling should be use for fun and you should stop if are already stressful in the game since it only means that you can’t handle risk. You don’t get the real purpose of gambling.

I understand about the pressure on playing using loan money but not all user here feel the same way because some user just need quick funds in crypto while waiting for their salary.
Why will a gambler utilized loan money for gambling in the first place, it absolutely makes no sense. Loans are taken for budgeting purposes, not gambling, and they have implications that we might never exist after encountering. Gambling with a solid mental balance will undoubtedly lead to gambling with an estimated amount of money, rather than the other way around. When it comes to gambling, we feel more pressure to do what we think is right, but we often forget that the chances of succeeding are 50/50. It's as simple as that: our results either result in profits or loses.

This is a very rational statement which is being said by a rational person,even if you maybe a gambler based on what you say that loans are for budgeting purposes makes you a very rational person and that is a good thing.The problem though is that gamblers who are deep down in addiction or near falling to it will not think that cold headed and will just say that I get this loan and I win money,deep down they think they will win with this money but unfortunately for them it is a dead end tunnel which you have a lot of difficulties turning back and getting out from there.

They really would expect to win and even paid the loan with extra in hand ready to roll out again. This always ends in a disastrous way when the loanee lost the bets and couldn't pay the debt.

In a loan business, most of them are going to check what kind of job a person has and whether he has properties before he is allowed to take a loan. In the forum though, all you need is collateral. Back in the day, the account can even be used as collateral.


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August 20, 2023, 06:31:31 AM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.

No one is born a gambler with bad reputation or gambling addicts, they all learn it at the course of their relationship with other people around them and the kind if environment they were subjected to, to me it's a decision we all would have been in the same condition but made the right choice of not being addicted, those that are addicted to gambling does not see anything bad in what they do, they see it as normal way of a gambler kind of lifestyle until they begin to see the consequences unfavourable to the before taking note of what they are doing, so no one is born with addiction, we acquire it through divers means, we can decide not to allow such anymore.
Yes, one is usually born with addiction not gambling addict friends and environment but in case of addiction it usually depends on the person if he can keep himself under control then it is possible to stop the addiction. There are many gamblers who suffer from adverse conditions, but the addiction to winning is exacerbated by gambling. Many people suffer from family turmoil due to gambling addiction. People do not become addicted to gambling only to gain financially it is also a type of mental illness.
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August 20, 2023, 06:32:55 AM
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Sadly a gambling addict doesn't understand what's self control and discipline, he will try to gamble as long as he have money and will try anything to get money. If every gambler understand about self control and read every warning message on the casino, there will be no gambling addict.

I think they're born to become gambling addict that used to make the casino's owner become rich, make a debt collector to work etc.
A gambling addict has lost self-control when he has become a gambling addict and he will not be able to have self-control anymore. But if he can realize that he is addicted to gambling and wants to have self-control, he will have to try very hard to regain self-control. That's why he needs to practice self-control from time to time so that he doesn't lose control when playing gambling and can avoid gambling addiction after playing gambling for a while.

And people who have become gambling addicts will always try to have money even by borrowing money from other people to play gambling again. And when he did borrow money from other people, he would only get new problems that would arise every time.

But there must be ways to strengthen our will, like having an inspiration. Why you are deciding to stop gambling? Is it because of your family, wife/gf, or others? We shouldn't say "it's all up to them". If they are struggling, we need to help them. Imagine if the same thing happen to us and they will say the exact words. We can feel hopeless.

Sometimes people don't make a move if their condition is not yet worse but starting from now, we better not be confident and do some sacrifices than to regret. So, many people are keeping their gambling activity as a secret and the more they will do it if they are addicted already. Maybe these people will try to seek help online because they can mask their identity there.
People who decide to stop gambling must have good reasons for doing so. And they will try to really be able to stop gambling to achieve their goals. Everything is "all up to them" because they determine it while we only help them to solve their problems. Some people really want to stop their gambling habit, and he tells the people closest to him the truth that he wants to stop gambling. The people closest to him will help him so he can really stop and even though we say "it's all up to you," those who really want to quit will want to try it. Only people who don't want to give up gambling will hesitate to decide.

It is also possible that people who want to stop gambling really want to stop gambling but they feel proud and ashamed to tell the truth and feel they should try to work it out on their own. And maybe they can find a solution from the internet and start rehabilitating themselves. But it's best if people around him want to accompany him in rehabilitating himself from gambling addiction so that he can be excited to stop gambling immediately and cure his gambling addiction.

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August 20, 2023, 11:16:37 AM
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But there must be ways to strengthen our will, like having an inspiration. Why you are deciding to stop gambling? Is it because of your family, wife/gf, or others? We shouldn't say "it's all up to them". If they are struggling, we need to help them. Imagine if the same thing happen to us and they will say the exact words. We can feel hopeless.

Sometimes people don't make a move if their condition is not yet worse but starting from now, we better not be confident and do some sacrifices than to regret. So, many people are keeping their gambling activity as a secret and the more they will do it if they are addicted already. Maybe these people will try to seek help online because they can mask their identity there.
People who decide to stop gambling must have good reasons for doing so. And they will try to really be able to stop gambling to achieve their goals. Everything is "all up to them" because they determine it while we only help them to solve their problems. Some people really want to stop their gambling habit, and he tells the people closest to him the truth that he wants to stop gambling. The people closest to him will help him so he can really stop and even though we say "it's all up to you," those who really want to quit will want to try it. Only people who don't want to give up gambling will hesitate to decide.

It is also possible that people who want to stop gambling really want to stop gambling but they feel proud and ashamed to tell the truth and feel they should try to work it out on their own. And maybe they can find a solution from the internet and start rehabilitating themselves. But it's best if people around him want to accompany him in rehabilitating himself from gambling addiction so that he can be excited to stop gambling immediately and cure his gambling addiction.
it's ludicrous to assume that everyone who gambles is in desperate need of some sort of intervention or salvation. Sure, some might have gotten themselves into a bit of a mess, but to generalize that everyone needs this "circle of trust and care" is nothing short of naive!

Stopping gambling because someone else tells you to is just as silly. If someone wants to gamble, they should have the freedom to do so responsibly. Not everyone who walks into a casino or places a bet online is a hapless addict. Some of us can handle a bit of fun without losing our minds over it.

And this whole notion of "searching the internet for a solution"? Give me a break! If people want to stop, they'll stop. If they don't, they won't. Simple as that. They don't need a support group every step of the way.

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