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I was reading and I saw something that I would have agreed with before, but not anymore because of how much things have changed in the crypto gambling.

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Because of KYC verification which is now done by most crypto casino to know the people who gamble on their casino, I think anonymity is no longer a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency in crypto casino.

Am i wrong to think that this information on the internet needs to be updated.

You are not wrong, but there are still casinos that requires no KYC, more of them will later request there customers for KYC verification. Nearly all the crypto gambling sites of today are centralized. Although some are claiming to be web3 which you can connect your noncustodial wallet to, which are not centralized. But as for centralized gambling sites, we should not think of them as no KYC gambling sites, there are still few that require no KYC though for low amount withdrawal.

While KYC is a massive killer to anonymity in Crypto, it's a much-needed one in my opinion. People have been very lenient and belligerent with how they can get away with stealing and robbing people of their tokens in the past since everything is virtually anonymous and untraceable, at the very least with KYC you now have a lead to where your stolen stuff might lead to. Although i'm a little disappointed at how underutilized this feature is and in most cases casinos only ever use this to verify that you're a real person, sometimes even taking it a step too far and using your info to sell to ad agencies for profit.

KYC isn't a bad thing, it's the way that these casinos implemented and imposed it that's putting it in a bad light. Hopefully with the introduction of this anonymous feature we see a new mechanism where KYC can be utilized in its full efficacy.

You are correct in your assumptions before, we only need a bitcoin address to withdraw our funds and gambling platform doesn't know us because there are no KYC or any other information that mandated from us.

However, when crypto started to become notice by the public, it also caught the attention of regulators. Now they mandated every services, like crypto exchanges and gambling platform to have KYC so that they can track everything because they know that crypto can be taken advantage of anyone to hide their identifies and could be used by criminals (which is not always the case, but this the one valid reasons that they always used).

Totally anticipating  for this thing to happen because we know that gambling businesses does involved huge incoming or outgoing transactions which does involved huge money and since these places or platforms

needed up for some licenses or simply people do trust to those who do have licenses which means that they would really be needing on getting in lined with governments rules and conditions on which it would really be resulting for you to abide government rules and terms on the time that you would really be getting your permit or licenses or whatsoever which means that anonymity would really be totally that not that possible.
So far most casinos now or crypto ones arent really that asking for some infront KYC or on the time that you would be playing on which it is really that still standard but it would sucks on the time
that they would asking out on the time that you wo make out some withdrawal.

Even on exchange platforms now which it turns out to be shit now which anonymity is really that slowly changing into kyc zone on which leaving you no choice but to deal something  with it.

Most crypto gambling sites now are much more centralized than decentralized. I think the only decentralized component of gambling platforms today are only the cryptocurrency tokens/coins (BTC/ETH) itself and not the platform. Since most of them have acquired gambling licenses, they are obliged to operate within the fine lines of regulation. This wasn't an issue in the past but regulatory pressure has almost 10x in the last 5-10 years since Crypto became a household name in the finance and industry.

Till we have full-fledged gambling platforms running new zero knowledge proof blockchain that comes with added privacy (the platform has to be on chain), anonymity in gambling with crypto is a thing of the pass.

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If we have a fully decentralized gambling platform that supports privacy and anonymity, how do they get licensed without a centralized gambling license outfit?

In the first place, are crypto gambling casinos suppose to be licensed? I don't think they should. Licencing means that it is regulated and monitored so requirements have to be set to meet up to the rules and such requirement is request for customer's identify. Unfortunately, gamblers are providing those information and more cex casinos are joining the business. The whole story is that government is putting an eyes on the unmasking of those playing in casinos.

Casinos are now centralized just like CEX at some point they will definitely ask for verification of your identity for what they need.

Although there are still many casinos that do not apply KYC at the beginning, but when a user has a problem in the account with his balance/withdrawal/bet, it is likely that the casino will ask you for verification and it can be said that crypto gambling has clearly no anonymity anymore, but while there are still casinos that do not apply KYC then use those casinos.

Casinos now have rules and it is licensed under the government so the law must be subject to it, so don't be surprised everything will definitely happen.

Since they want to be regulated as well and have the license, KYC is necessary for them to operate legally and you're not wrong with this.
Most of the crypto casino today are already asking for KYC though some are just a level 1 KYC only but the chance to be asked for another KYC is high especially if you won some money with them. I think the only reason for this is that, they tend to prevent laundering and in order to do that, they should know their players and that is mandated by the regulations.

You are late with your assumptions though, at the start of 2017 or at least when my memory is still fresh, that's when this whole KYC started to also haunt crypto base gambling platform. Prior to that  it was just a very simple steps for gamblers to deposit and withdraw their bitcoins (99% of crypto based that time only caters or acccept BTC).

But time has change, and maybe this is the price that we have to pay after 2017's bull run as every sector, specially government and banking started to take notice and so they imposed mandatory KYC.

A couple of years ago (3-4 years), a casino that would ask for KYC was rare and a lot people would not accept this and complain. Nowadays, a lot of casinos will ask for KYC, even for low amount withdrawals especially if you participated in promotions. There are some casinos that are still not too strict on it but I am afraid that will also change in the near future. I don't matter doing KYC for reputable casinos as I am used to do it when playing in fiat casinos.

There are still a few sites out there that do not do KYC. Gamdom.com is 1 of those sites and probably the only 1 that I trust that doesn't do KYC. As far as the info on the internet being updated, of course it needs to be, but it likely will not be.

I personally am not a fan of KYC. I think it's my money I should be able to do whatever I want with it. Look at the current Betnomi situation. They are taking users information(email addresses) and selling them to spam sites. Just 1 example of why I disagree with KYC.

There are still some casino that is created to be decentralized where the feature of anonymity still exist.  The problem is that these crypto casino that requires KYC is usually a hybrid casino where it accept both fiat and cryptocurrency so it is normal to see that these casinos asked for KYC since the government wanted their regulation to be implemented.  While other shady crypto casinos use this KYC excuse to deprive their gamblers of their huge wins.

They are slowly restricting gamblers from playing anonymously though I think there’s still site that are still KYC free, but most of the trusted casinos today are already asking for KYC. It’s sad that crypto market are slowly getting into this situation and it seems that we are no choice but to comply. Let’s see if some developer will develop a KYC free project that can change the whole scenario in crypto, this is a very innovative market and I know a new project will emerge because of this. 

^ As the cryptocurrency space continues to mature and gain mainstream acceptance, many crypto casinos are indeed becoming more centralized and subject to regulations, including the implementation of KYC procedures. While there are probably still some casinos that initially allow users to gamble without KYC, it is important to recognize that the situation can change quickly if they encounter issues with users' accounts or transactions, or if they face legal pressure to comply with regulations.
The licensing and regulation of casinos by governments are becoming more prevalent, and this trend is likely to continue as authorities seek to address potential risks and protect consumers. As a result, the level of anonymity once associated with crypto gambling is diminishing over time just because of legalities many casinos have been successful and faster adoption.

Times have changed a lot, faster than gamblers expected. Now most of the trusted casinos have made KYC mandatory, preventing gamblers from using gambling websites anonymously. However, there are still many gambling sites that have not made KYC mandatory, but after a big win, we have already seen many complaints asking those sites to do KYC.

If the gambling sites are so highly centralized, then it has really created a lot of trouble for crypto users in terms of gambling. Hopefully the big players will come up with sites that free gamblers from doing KYC to protect the anonymity of crypto users to change this situation.

You are not wrong, nowadays anonymity is not longer a benefit of using crypto to gamble. There must be still some small platforms which offer their services without KYC and they could even support some coins which enhance privacy, like Monero.

But I am afraid those small casinos are not as reliable as big and well established casinos.
I am not sure I would sacrifice reliability for full anonimity. It is about the preferences of each one of us, I guess...

There is a reason we do not see Monero and other privacy coins in major regulated casinos, right?

A few years ago until now the development of crypto gambling is growing rapidly so it would be natural that the casino will ask for KYC verification for any reason including from small withdrawals that you think are unreasonable, even I would not be surprised and I will know the consequences later if they require it.

I have done KYC with reputable casinos that I can fully trust, but it is still a concern that the majority of us still want privacy in the use of crypto including in gambling at casinos.

Not all casinos are enforcing KYC verifications to players and I can confirm that from my own experience in last few years, so I am happy to continue using them.
For situations when larger amounts of money are won in casino or sport bet I would be ok to perform verification, but that could be exceptions and having some regulations is not bad.
Perfect solution is to have fully decentralized p2p casinos but that is not easy to have betting service with good volume and regulators could try to make their life harder.

Yes, my email got leaked from Betnomi and I can bet that personal information from other players kyc verification is also leaked.
Even biggest websites in the world that are not related with crypto had big leaks, so better to be extra careful about personal details sent online.

This is the main reason on why im always that skeptical when it comes to complying out KYC even on exchange platforms who do ask out for some verification if ever you would be asking out for more features which you would be needing up to go with this process but somewhat you do have the option on not to be able to comply but of course the function would really be just that limited. This is why if ever i do make out some KYC
then i do always make use of dummy emails because sooner or later i would really be seeing those spam emails that would flooded out my email inbox which its never been new that these information would really be leaked out. I dont have any experience on gamdom but i have able to see its signature campaign on this forum wayback and if they are really that asking no KYC with this then i might reconsider on playing on it.
Progress and regulation is something that cant really be stopped and just like with those other comments that as long this one involves huge money then expect that government would really be liking
to get involved with.

Regarding updating those articles where anonymity is being advertised as one of crypto casinos advantages, then I agree with you. This is no longer valid.
However, using cryptocurrencies still has some advantages over traditional payment systems when it comes to privacy and anonymity.
For example, if you use bitcoin to make a deposit or a withdrawal, your bank will not know about it, unlike when using your credit card or your bank account.

There are still casinos which are KYC-free for certain players especially small time players.
However, you need to be careful in sending your funds to any casino, as the reputation is still important in choosing which casino to play with.
Anonymity may not be true to most casinos these days, but if you are using crypto to deposit, I don't think your government will lurk into your gambling activities.
But you still need to check your gambling protocols, so as not to have trouble with the authorities, when it comes to accessing these sites.

I don't even think it's true that crypto casinos are offering better bonuses than fiat currency casinos, it would be nice to see some sort of evidence on the subject instead of a baseless claim. They definitely have a lot of money to throw around, so it isn't impossible, but you'll tend to find that fiat casinos have a much wider customer base and that gives them a wider ability to "give away" promotions like that because it's easier for new customers to sign up. Anonymity was never going to survive very long if Bitcoin is to enter the mainstream more and more, financial regulators will not and cannot allow that to happen, because it undermines the whole tax collection system among many other things.

the instant all casinos started having licenses things changed, i believe the license provider forces casinos to sin kyc, now something we should all be asking ourselves is what would happen if a casino had a license and never asked their customers did kyc? how would the license provider know that casino X, Y and Z are not asking for kyc if the license provider does not periodically inspect the casinos? I confess that I've spent days wondering about this, since I've been doing sports betting I've never read any news saying that the government of curacao has started an inspection campaign for all casinos that have a license issued by that country

so I don't understand what makes certain casinos even force people to do kyc when they have a small withdrawal of money, it doesn't make much sense to me because money launderers don't waste time laundering little money and they don't use casinos, they have a mixer for that purpose, so in my opinion the kyc in crypto casinos seems unnecessary, but as the rules must be respected so when I want to use a casino I put my real data and do kyc, some people said that there are casinos that do not ask for kyc, but even so, people are required to put real data when they are creating an account

also people don't use vpn and even when they do most of the time there is a problem with the casino, even when it's a casino that says it won't ask for kyc, so there's no such thing as anonymity in casinos anymore, we all have to put real data, avoid vpn and keep praying that they are not asking for a lot of documents, like the case of proof of funds, which is the biggest headache when doing kyc

You are 100 percent correct. The information on the internet might need to be updated because the majority of platforms' adoption of KYC verification has substantially affected the anonymity aspect of playing at bitcoin casinos. Players who employ KYC procedures must verify their identity, therefore using bitcoins for gaming no longer entirely makes them anonymous.
Despite some casinos claiming not to impose KYC on customers, when significant amounts are involved, they suspend accounts and demand identity verification. Therefore, gambling platforms remain centralized, requiring users to disclose their identities, which means the industry is impacting the privacy of cryptocurrency users.

Casinos that do a lot of KYC are more likely to steal your money than casinos without KYC. Casinos use KYC as a reason not to pay.

You got me wrong. I am not worried about my government knowing about my gambling activities. It's legal here.
This is not the point. What I meant is if you make a crypto deposit, only the casino and no one else will know who made it (in case you have verified your identity). This is why I said it's still better than using traditional payment methods. Crypto casinos do not provide anonymity anymore (except few of them) but they still provide a little more privacy compared to fiat casinos.

This has something to do with compliance something a casino needs to continue to operate in many countries so they can do their business without questioning their legality, They need a license for their operation and to make sure that their platform is not being used for money laundering and any illegal activities.
There is nothing to be changed in the way casinos operate we are all good at this if you're not comfortable with this then you need to play on a decentralized gambling platform where you connect your wallet to play.

I believe that phrase is meant for the original context of cryptocurrency which truly is all about Anomynity and this have changed a lot of this in both the casino that adopt cryptocurrency as a form of payment this is so because cryptocurrency allows for seamlessly untraceable transactions unless the one that is done through KYC platform.

This is why,  most important to gamble only on no KYC casinos to avoid the disposal of your identity,  moreover, cryptocurrency gambling offers privacy 79% higher than traditional

Most casinos use the same Curacao license but they have different degrees to which they ask for KYC documentation. The chart shows degree of KYC. 0 = no KYC while 5 = mandatory KYC upon withdrawal.

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Well, it is mandatory by law, and I don't think there's a lot of things you can hide from the government anyway. It's an inevitability that is slowly creeping up in the cryptospace, so it is to be expected. Though third-parties couldn't snoop on your activities, unless of course the gambling platform allows them to check on your history, but that is quite impossible unless you have the side of the law enforcement with you, so I guess in a way, it's still pretty anonymous.

Gambling with cryptocurrencies however, still has some benefits as the coins you're playing with could potentially increase their value, getting your winnings up should there be any.

With enough research, you can still find a few crypto casinos that don't require KYC, and the others mentioned it too. Most crypto casinos now are in-between (list of casinos and KYC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)), but the non-KYC casinos won't disappear because that benefit alone can bring tons of players to a crypto casino. That benefit is slowly fading in crypto gambling, but not all crypto casinos are heading to the levels of traditional casinos.

Anonymity was never meant to be a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency. Except perhaps with shady casinos and using Monero? I don't know. But since we are in the Bitcoin forum, I am just going to assume that you meant Bitcoin. Bitcoin was never anonymous nor was it meant to be anonymous. In fact, it is built as a public ledger. We can all see who gets Bitcoin and where it goes.

The problem here is that you are gambling on a centralized platform which demands KYC.

We should understand even way back before that soon, centralization in crypto will also affect crypto-gambling sites.

Aside from that, you might be right that most crypto casinos do have KYC but it's "not mandatory" and you can still play at most crypto-casinos freely and smoothly without undergoing KYC. These sites have no choice but to comply with regularization to make their operation "legal in papers".

Just ride the wave and just play on your usual. It's not that KYC is a big reason why our crypto-gambling should be affected.

The information needs to be updated because the reality has changed in recent years. Currently, crypto casinos have also implemented KYC for their members, but there are still casinos that have not implemented KYC for all of their members. These casinos are reputable and trusted so members who play at these casinos don't need to worry.

Crypto casinos still allow their members who only play gambling with little money not to do KYC. But we also must understand that casinos now have the right to ask their members for KYC anytime. So we also have to be prepared to be asked to do KYC.

Maybe from now on, if you want to play gambling, only use small money and avoid using big money if you are still a new member at the casino. It can make the casino suspicious and the casino may ask you to do KYC first.

Curacao laws don't require KYC for deposits. There are laws for withdrawals. No casino strictly follows the rules. If a player losses $50,000 and then wins $10,000 and asks for a $10,000 withdrawal, he won't be asked for KYC. Casinos want this player. If a casino does KYC, they are looking to confiscate your funds.

Yes this information is now partially correct. Earlier casinos used to be KYC free and people used to gamble without worrying about their identities. But many casinos now have made the KYC rule mandatory. They are doing this in order to avoid money laundering and keep a track of gamblers in their casinos. Now we cannot do anything regarding this rule. What we can do is just find gambling sites and casinos which doesn’t ask for KYC and play there. Yes we also need to remember that, the casino should be trusted enough to be played.

Some casinos have been accused of this, but I think well established casinos have much more at stake and are not worried about stealing $1-10k from their players. I'm guessing those that are hit with the KYC and get funds confiscated were probably doing something the casino prohibits. Multi accounts, arbitrage betting, abusing bonuses, or something that violates terms.

There are offenses that I agree players should be punished for but this thread is not about that.

Definitely agree with a lot of this. Some tops ones only confiscate those that are multi-accounting for bonus abuse or to circumvent limits. They ignore jurisdiction. I don't want to call any casinos out but there are top casinos that will go after winners using jurisdiction. They'll allow losers to play.

It still is, but you will have to look for that platform that doesn't require KYC. At this point in time, though, you're like looking for a needle in a haystack to find one. Most have KYC phrases in their terms and conditions already. But I guess the likes of Anonibet remains anonymous for gamblers. However, with anonymous platforms being very few, you cannot be very picky as to your preferred features. You don't have much choice.

With the development of gambling platforms though, web3 features such as connecting your own crypto wallet is already in place. You don't have to make a deposit anymore. So that's something provided by crypto gambling platforms that's probably anonymity-friendly.

Most cryto casino are centralized because of the government in their countries who have now see that there is money in the business and has come up with government policy to regulate the casino. Since crypto casinos don't want to run out of business, they decided to abide with the government policy by making it mandatory for KYC. There are only few casinos who are decentralized and I don't think that a gambler will be able to cash out huge sum of money for such casino. I think that as time passes on,we might not be able to see a decentralized casino anymore. Government wouldn't just allow crypto to be anonymous as they are doing everything to centralize anything that involves crypto,but they can't do this on bitcoin.

The KYC requirement is something that every casino now needs to comply with. Otherwise they risk losing their business and face the music. There are many casinos that come up and have a usual ~1 to 2 year period when they remain KYC-free. This is taken advantage of by many gamblers before they declare a KYC wave and the gamblers move to another casino.

Point is that gambling will not stop and privacy requirments will continue to be there. This ends up being a cat and mouse game and eventually gamblers will have to accept one or the other, either submit kyc and play on one casino which they trust or keep jumping ships every year.

In some cases they at least put it in the ToS for show. If you deposit and bet low amounts they don't ask for KYC. I've never been asked for it so far. And then there are some that in theory ask for KYC if you go over, for example, $2,000 or in total deposits or winnings, but they turn a blind eye and don't ask for it until a much higher amount. In theory this is to make it look like they are collaborating with AML, but they know that no KYC is a big attraction for them.

 8)But eventhough , if someone who are not  aware of how to claim their cases or where to accuse such casino will end up losing the battle and I think most casino tries to act such way , if the players knows where to put there issues then they will be resolved but those who are not? then sorry for their losses.
though Of course there are still good reputable casino that only act asking KYC for security and for laws and nothing extended .

and also good sight in this matter mate because lets admit that this is truly happening maybe not everytime but still existing .

It all depends on your point of view regarding KYC verification, which almost all casinos enforce.
If you think that KYC is a way to maintain gambling sites because can avoid fraudulent or illegal actions regarding money laundering where such problems are very detrimental and risk the survival of gambling sites, then you will not feel disadvantaged and think about anonymity.
But if you only think about personal gain about anonymity so you don't want the casino to know your identity then it is impossible for you to receive KYC verification at any time.

But I think more and more people are aware of the importance of KYC verification so that slowly they can accept every casino that enforces KYC verification.

It's true. It isn't that there are no casinos that don't accept KYC (Afaik there are still a few ones out there), but the majority due to the rules that the licenses that they got from whoever is allowing their services to be offered, KYC is a pretty much-required rule nowadays. It's a counter for money laundering on paper but in essence, it's basically trying to control everyone or have access to info of every player so that they can track pretty much everything.

But well, despite that, I highly doubt reputable casinos would sell personal info of their players to outside, that's their reputation we're talking about. And while there are instances of casinos locking player accounts, they're mostly because of ToS violations. The only bad side of this is that our info is on the hands of someone else, and security isn't necessarily a guarantee in almost all cases.

This is due to the government's involvement in regulation.
Some sites have no other choice as they want to be something good and be considered legal so inevitably they have to follow the regulations that the government wants including KYC which of course this also makes all affected by the regulations.

Now even though there are still some big sites that do not implement KYC in it but looking at the current movement it seems that some other sites have implemented KYC so we must also be prepared for it.

The choice may be to do KYC and gamble safely or not to do KYC but there will definitely be some obstacles that you will encounter when playing.

This is unavoidable since governments/organizations are concerned about unlawful activity and owners do not want to be involved in it. At the very least, we are only recognized by the owners or teams in charge of handling information, not the entire community of that gaming site, and won't be shared elsewhere. I don't need to be concerned as long as the site is reputable.

KYC verification in crypto casinos has now become like an obligation that must be fulfilled by every member. We also don't need to be surprised because this is all due to regulations from the government who want to know who are crypto casino users and how much money they use to gamble at crypto casinos.

And it seems that every casino should update the information on their site so that everyone who visits the casino can read the changes in the casino. And this can also give them a warning that playing gambling using crypto doesn't mean they can hide their identity. So everything will be their responsibility in playing gambling at crypto casinos.

This means that the promises are not true. When they promote anonymous gambling, it should be understood as a general implementation for the industry. Maybe there are gambling sites that do not require KYC at the beginning, but later on, they'll require it, which would break the promise they are promoting. Therefore, they better not use the words 'anonymous gambling' as it does not truly exist nowadays.

Personally, I enjoy gambling anonymously now, but I'm not confident it will last longer as I already know the trend. One thing to remember is that as crypto is being embraced more by the people, regulators will try to make sure that everything is monitored through their regulations.

REGULATION ===> ANONYMITY!

Casinos prefer to be compliant with what the government asked of them than satisfy the needs of the Crypto gambling community, compliance that the money coming into casinos is clean money and not dirty money coming from hacking and scamming, and its also part of the terms of their license issuer.
No KYC will attract a lot of players which is some casinos implement this for small players but if there's a big amount involved that's where KYC will be implemented.
We cannot do away with KYC it's the casinos' protection, all we can do is find reputable casinos that we can trust with our sensitive information and will not use the KYC features to scam people.
I've seen casinos using failed compliance to KYC coming from their users to withhold their earnings and this is not good.
This is the reality of playing in Crypto casinos we have to do KYC along the way and the documents should be valid and will pass to what the casinos are asking.

Well, the crypto gambling space is a wild west as someone said a long time ago. Many people would like to see crypto gambling more regulated, but with that, we can expect more rules.

There's still anonymity in crypto casinos, at least for all of us who gamble small amounts... but I doubt that we can see some general update that will cover all crypto casinos. I don't like to read ToS and I rarely do it, except when I have some issues, but before registering in some casino I am already aware of their basic rules... doesn't matter if I saw that info here on the forum in their ANN thread or from the BTCGosu review page. With that said people should check for some basics, if they didn't already, before registering in any crypto casino.

Most of people don't care about anonymity, but they're care with the risk of their life.

When you gamble in online casino and submit your KYC, only the team behind casino know your face, your location, your wealth etc.

But if you gamble in offline casino, you need to reveal your identity, other gamblers will know your face, they will pay attention with your car, how much you bet, your friend, your body etc. Which make many people aren't comfortable.

If they don't comply then there operation became illegal that's why its good that reputable casino did that KYC thing just to make things legitimate to them and they will not be flagged by government since it can ease our worries about their legalities for doing that actions. Although KYC still a main concern by others but for sure majority can accept this and anonymity is not a main concern on casino since many people will get used to this new implementation made by legit casinos.

While you are right at your point but unlike exchanges, there are still few reputable casinos left which do not need KYC details.
At least upto a certain limit they won't ask for KYC details for gambling on their platform.
For the time being, anonymity is still a benefit in gambling.

The bottom of the argument is that, as soon as you settle to use a casino, you should be willing to get through with all their rules this is because those rules will apply to you while you play for them, what I prefer to do most times is to first of all look at the terms and conditions of the casino and if they have KYC I will try to pass through them and verify my accounts at the point of opening.
So that in the future when u have a need it won't be a problem at that time and that is the most prominent thing to do in most cases because if you are triggered by the casino to do kyc it may become hard for you at that point but if you already have your KYC done it will be less very easy for you to operate freely in the casino and being able to withdraw any amount.

I'd see some gambling sites offer no KYC but something to be aware of is that once you withdraw huge amount, they'll asking you for KYC verification.
Which I think that it was a trick to let a gambler registred their platform and in soon they will ask for KYC to complete any transactions.

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Well, that is know that it was already a standard procedure for any gambling sites now and in order for them to be legal, the government  had also advice to do so as this will help to prevent fraud and illegal transactions.

Of line betting and online are not the same thing. Of line betting is usually with fiat which already has no secret involve in it especially when you are betting very small amount. People who bet huge with fiat do that in secret either they are betting only in the presence of the manager in his office which can be allowed or they bet from their phone online with fiat but there is something with cryptocurrency especially bitcoin. People don't like to expose themselves on how rich they are in bitcoin or crypto. You can't compare the value of cryptocurrency to fiat and exposing yourself to how much you have in bitcoin is risky

There are still many casino platforms that do not require KYC, but nowadays most casino platforms request KYC. Most crypto casinos today are centralized which is why KYC verification of customers is done. But there are many casino platforms which do not verify KYC but they ensure all the benefits to the players. Although there are some casino platforms that do not require KYC for small withdrawals, players are asked for kyc for larger amounts. There are only some platforms where casinos ask players to verify this kyc when they win a large amount of money, but I think it's not bad if it's convenient and safe for a player.

Let me tell you something, you need to read the terms and conditions of the gambling sites regarding KYC. You may see the gambling sites saying that they do not require KYC, but go to their terms and conditions to find out. All of the gambling sites that I know have a limit when they will ask for KYC if the money you want to withdraw exceed the withdrawal limit for each transaction.

This is the only better option that remains, but they do not support bitcoin.

Usually, you are asked to provide KYC documents when you win a lot and try to withdraw. But there is a way to avoid KYC verification.
If you are a regular gambler, you'll definitely notice that you are in debt and you have never won more than what you have lost in casino. So, if you deposit 1 BTC, win another BTC and plan to withdraw 2 BTC, if you are an active gambler or just a gambler, more likely after some days or weeks, you'll come back and deposit another 1 BTC, then you'll more likely lose this 1 BTC and you probably deposit another 0.5BTC or 1 BTC. Finally, you are spending back what you have won. So, just leave the balance on your account, don't withdraw, just gamble from the balance that you have because that's all you can, you can't beat casino and come with winnings, otherwise casinos wouldn't exist. So, just leave the balance as it is, come back days or weeks later, gamble and repeat. This way, you'll avoid KYC verification while still be able to gamble anonymously.
If you care about winnings and think that you are not going to lose what you have won, then just simply don't gamble and do some other activities.

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You're basically just saying withdraw small amount so casino will not asks for your KYC. Thats hoping they will actually not ask but in the future even when you are just withdrawing 0.05 they may be asking for your data. You are right about it though. I don't have huge funds in my accounts so stake is not asking my KYC.

But the best solution avoid KYC is to justplay on decentralized casino. The problem however is you just don't know when they will start scaming.

This is such bad advice on so many levels. Regardless of KYC, the same principle applies as with centralized exchanges: one should never hold significant amounts on any online casino or any other online platform. And if you still believe that your advice holds merit, consider explaining it in light of recent events related to the Betnomi platform and its customers, for instance.

One by one all the exchanges and casinos became pro-KYC businesses. Kucoin and freebitco.in also joined this freak show not long ago. These were the only never-KYC businesses I know and now they are also doing KYC. (freebitco.in says nothing has changed but for some reason I don't really believe this)

Only p2p trades will be anonymous and you will do such trades either face2face or on a forum like bitcointalk... Nowhere else left to go for us. KYC killed a part of crypto... Sad af.

Yep, most of the casinos with License has such obligation because they need to comply AML regulation but it doesn't mean it happens only when the amount of withdrawal is big, it happens for any amount if their security triggers that there is something suspicious about the user based on their history and it varies from one to another. So if they are choosing a centralized service then the KYC is becoming inevitable even for crypto users.

Still there are some which has no KYC at all : Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0), but don't forget to DYOR.

Well, I don't you are wrong to think the way you think, and for the fact that majorly every crypto casinos today now have the ability of asking any player to go through KYC verification with them, that I think, validates your thinking, but I don't know how or why we mostly refer to online casinos as crypto casinos alone , when most of this casino do have fiat deposit system in place, and some also have fiat withdrawal system specially for some countries .

Coming back to the issue of KYC, in as much as many of us still frown to KYC , i personally will not blame the casinos, the level of crimes going on on the internet this days calls that every business that is online based should try and know who their customers are, and i know that some crypto casinos naturally wouldn't have cared, but regulatory laws still compel them to make KYC mandatory, most especially for customers under some kind of suspicion, so i guess we all just have to take things the way we see it, most especially if we are not in the position, or have not the ability to change it .

I understand that casinos have our KYC data and they know who are we but still, there is Anonymity because this data is not publicly available.
The online casino sites will never disclose this data unless really required by the authorities, so technically no one knows who we are except the owners of the gambling sites.

Think that you go to a physical casino and a friend of yours or family members see you going to the casino. However, with online casinos, you can hide that you ever gambling and no one will ever know about it. So the Anonymity factor does exist in online gambling with cryptocurrencies.

Yeah, it may not be 100% anonymous, but it's really help for people who're not want people around him know if he's a gambler.

Gambling is taboo and some company usually not want to accept an employer which is also a gambler due to many bad news around. They're forget if not all gambler are want to make money, they just gamble for fun and it will not cause any problem because they know about self control.

As far as I know, Kucoin hasn't been "never-KYC" for a very long time. They officially implemented KYC since November 2018. Until recently, they had a 24-hour withdrawal limit for non-KYC customers. (source (https://www.kucoin.com/de/support/360015102254)) Now, KYC is mandatory for everyone.

Regarding Freebico.in, I'm still a non-KYC user, so I'm not entirely sure about the exact changes that have taken place. It's possible that the introduction of KYC was solely for the purpose of detecting and deterring cheaters.

Gambling is not a taboo for everyone. Those who hold tight to religion are those who don't want to associate with it or anyone who is gambling and they equally train their children in such religious way like they saw it in the bible. If such people open a company they may not like to recruit those who gamble or smoke just in obedience with the religious way of life but for those that don't follow religious doctrine, it is not a taboo for them.

Until now I have been doing well with kucoin, I have not yet had the need to give my KYC but they already told me in the emails and it is something that I do not like at all, but what can I do now, this is one of the Exchanges that have a fairly good reputation and it has not failed me , I have been Aware of this exchange since it launched and it has done well for me, in freebitcoin I did not like what they did, it is no longer a completely anonymous site , I am sure that some users of the This site will want to go, for me it is one of the most famous in gambling worldwide and that is something that they can lose thanks to those regulations, but I still like it that way and I have no problem giving my kyc now, it is a platform that is worth it , I like to play there, they are very Responsible and the withdrawals are Immediate.

It's true that most casinos ask for KYC verification when making larger withdrawals, but it's not all of them. There are still some casinos that are open for everybody and you don't have to worry about giving out personal information. For me KYC is not such a big deal anymore because I got used to it and can understand that casinos want to seem more legit. Gambling laws are quite strict in some countries and even banned in other countries, with KYC is one of the best tools for casinos to protect themselves. A few years ago it was no problem for a website to ban people from one country to access it. However, since then almost every third video on YouTube promotes VPNs. Everybody I know has used VPNs in the past and with that you can get around any gambling restrictions. Would only be fair for the internet to not be so secret anymore.

I don't repudiate the idea of KYC requirements by crypto gambling sites as in essence there have been cases where KYC have salvaged gamblers accounts from intruders and hackers.
But then this part of your statement caught my interest, like what difference does it make not requesting KYC for low amount of withdrawal but request for a high amount of withdrawal. If a gambling site claims to be totally decentralized land no KYC let them be entirely and not in a cloak based on amount.

      -     For responsible gamblers it never crosses their mind that gambling is a steady income. For gamblers who say that this can be a steady income, there are only two reasons, either they are good at cheating in a casino or they control their luck even though that is impossible.

The more a gambler thinks it's a steady income, the more they lead to addiction to it without noticing it in themselves and that's what really happens for a long time.

Most of these casinos are mandated by the government to ask customers for KYC. The only way to determine if the casino requires KYC is to read the terms of service. This document will contain information about government policy and how the casino handles withdrawals from bettors. Some of these casinos might claim they don't require KYC but when the gambler wins big, they might start asking for personal information.


Just like centralized platforms, it is not advisable to keep much funds in a casino platform because you want to avoid providing KYC. If you are not comfortable with a casino that asked for personal information, the best option is to seek any other one that is less stringent regarding KYC. But the truth is that most reputable casinos asked for KYC, but some are less stringent than others.

I think there are still casinos that doesn't require you to do KYC, but I guess most of them are "unregulated" casinos without any license. So, if you want to play without KYC, you will most likely need to play in a casino that has no license, and the risk is high. If they scam you, there is no one you can report and you most likely will get no help at all. And then there is a chance that those casinos might be doing some illegal stuffs and you might end up getting trapped.
But yeah, there are also "decentralized blockchain" casinos where I don't think so you need to do any KYC or anything. Don't know much about it, so do your own research.

I take that you're advocating leaving the winnings in the account to circumvent KYC? Well, thats certainly one strategy to consider. To put it another way, wouldnt that be like giving the casino a pistol and telling it not to fire?

The home always has the upper hand, that much is true. I mean, it must be how they erect all those glitzy hotels in Sin City. But, and hear me out on this, what if you struck it lucky? If you accidentally caused major damage to the house, what would happen? I all, with that big of a win, wouldnt you want to cash out?

Gamble with the money you've earned, yes. Keep some aside in case of emergencies, though. Yes, its OK if KYC comes knocking. Is that too much to ask for the possibility of success?

From the article explanation, and the way I understand it, it is cryptocurrency that is decentralized and anonymity and not the casino. The casino only accept cryptocurrency to their to enable the players to play games and when they win cryptocurrency would be send to their gambling accounts for them to make a transfer to their wallets and if they loss the coins would be taken by the casino, so the anonymity is not found in the casino and KYC came removed anonymity. In these days, almost all the casinos are asking for KYC. And not only casinos also exchanges.

No- you are not wrong given that majority of the gambling websites require KYC as a pre-requisite for their registration.

Even if this may be the case, there are still some gambling websites that do not require KYC as a condition for registration. Though you somehow run on the risk of such gambling website being genuine or not.

Personally, I would prefer to submit my KYC documents to a designated gambling website that is authentic and genuine. This will at least give me that sense of security and peace of mind that even if they have my personal information, I am confident that they will keep it secured and private without any chance of breach on their part.

Almost every services that accept cryptocurrencies were requesting the users to fulfill KYC. Earlier we've got decentralised gambling platforms like directbet which never requires a registration. During those days the anonymity of the gambling platform as well as the cryptocurrencies were well enjoyed. Now the cryptocurrencies were anonymous, but the gamblers to fulfill KYC keeps everything transparent. Over time things could change, as more gamblers prefer to stay anonymous.

I remember this website and their method is the really the anonymous casino in crypto because it only needs wallet to play by sending bets on designated betting address. The on,y problem on this system is the owner can run freely whenever he wants it since he has no legal commitment with his players since both party is anonymous.

I think directbet still have some settlements that is not paid before they stop the service. Those active bets during their closure is not paid.

We all want to maintain the anonymity of our identities especially in gambling but it is unavoidable nowadays because even huge casinos are requiring it. We can't run away from it unless we are willing to play in small time but non reputable casinos just to stay away from KYCs which I think is riskier because we might fall for scam casinos trap which we should b careful about.
As for me, it is already part of the security system and we only have to comply with it as the innovation of technology really requires it. So far, I haven't heard any news of getting our personal information being put at risk. So as early as possible, no matter what casino we may choose, we better expect KYC and just comply with it. As long as we're in a trusted casino site, our identities are actually safe.

That is one of the problem anonymity casinos always giving to anonymity players, there is always an element of atom in frauding or incompleted payment to gamblers. According to some casino T/C KYC is to fast track the payment of the gamblers wins but there are some casinos who withheld players win when they have provided all the documents to clear themselves.
I think there are many accusations in the forum concerning this KYC issue. So from what even discovered, it is not even the KYC is the problem but the casinos genuineness is also needed in their dealing with the players. Now casinos would say without KYC they can't pay the player, okay the player provides the KYC yet the casino would bring another grammar to stop the payment process. So the problem is not KYC.

Well if you were not required to pass a KYC, that still benefits your gambling using crypto. But nowadays, that's becoming less and less likely to happen. These KYCs were become necessary due to most gambling sites are being regulated by some authority. Somehow it also provides legitimacy and some sort of security. I would agree, somehow, the sense of anonymity in gambling using crypto is decreasing, I believe because of casinos being centralized/regulated.

It's a thing of choice on how the gambling platforms want to operate their sites, some may demands for KYC while some my not, the mistake we often make is not to narrow our search for the one that best serves us right, it's not new to know that we are having fewer numbers of KYC casinos compared to the numbers of those that requires for KYC, government will definitely regulate any gambling platform whose identity is with them.

Currently KYC is only being used to confiscate players funds. Things may change on September 1st since Curacao is overhauling their gaming laws. Right now there are 4 master licenses and all other casinos hold a sublicense. Each casino will now have to hold their own B2C license to offer gaming to individuals. We won't know until September how each casino will implement the strictness of KYC.

You are not wrong the crypto gambling is totally a changed thing now. It was intended to be decentralized and anonymous but these days almost every casino requires KYC verification in order to be workable for a gambler. The real decentralized nature of crypto gambling is totally gone into dust and it will never be the way it was intended to be. Now a days crypto gambling is totally centralized and it requires KYC, and casinos know everything about the gamblers.

^Not yet, because still there are gambling casinos that I saw here offering without KYC verification.
Originally intended to be decentralized and anonymous, you definitely right, crypto gambling offered a promising alternative to traditional gambling platforms but now, many casinos have chosen to implement KYC verification procedures to comply with regulatory requirements and enhance security measures which I don't think it is necessary in fact, blockchain network has this public ledger that everyone could see and verify.
As a result, the original vision of crypto gambling being truly decentralized and anonymous seems to have faded away. Instead, it has transformed into a more centralized system, where casinos hold significant knowledge about their users.

Op it so correct that now anonymity with crypto gambling sites is no more in existence as it were and far worse is how some of these gambling sites abuse's avenue using it to usurp and seizures of users accounts at the making of any slight mistakes patterning to kyc policy breaking.
Haven gotten this awareness online crypto gamblers should taken it upon themselves to study through the ToS of any gambling site before registering not waiting for when it's too late before realizing it, it's gonna save you some avoidable losses relating to kyc requirements.

True, there are still decentralized services out there but yeah they are dwindling since regulators and centralized services are now taking the stage for cryptocurrency.  Though we may find decentralized services rarer in the future, I do not think that these services will be totally gone.

About the casino, since majority of the online casino platform is dealing with fiat money and cryptocurrency. they really have to abide by the regulation and get license from the government so that they can operate smoothly and avoid trouble of being accused of illegal operation and money laundering in the future.  I also believe that dealing with centralized gambling casino, we really can't avoid to go through KYC process.

Sooner or later to those platforms which are still that partly-decentralized since they arent asking some KYC will definitely be switching up into a pure centralized ones. We know that government cant really just look out nor really ignore out these things specially if it does involved huge amounts of money specially with these kind of companies where gambling could really generate tons of amounts on which it is really that normal that they cant just look away but rather doing their very best on trying out to regulate these companies which leaving them no choice but to comply or else they wont really be able to make themselves operational. They might be able to operate out but it would really be just not taking up too long before they would really be getting in line with some regulation. This is why it would really be passed up into its
users which for us to have no choice but to comply if ever we do make ourselves get caught.

Play at no KYC books such as Nitrobetting. They are in Costa Rica. No casino can be decentralized. Someone has to be there for grading mistakes and other problems that may occur.

I also think that the only path for crypto casinos is to be regulated by the government.  Since the majority of crypto casino are using a centralized service of the game providers, they will end up implementing KYC for account verification purposes and to comply with the regulation's rule.  I also think that those who are yet to mandatory implement KYC will be bind by this requirement sooner or later.  As long as the business is owned by a company, it has to be registered and needs to follow the regulatory rules.

Of course, after all, is there any other way to verify whether or not that said platform truly doesn't ask for KYC? We've always been told to not just trust right away but verify.

In any case, if you haven't come across Mahdirakib's Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0) yet, it offers a list of crypto casinos and whether they have KYC stipulations in their ToS or not.


Unfortunately, yeah, but I think it's probably just a matter of time before Bitcoin wallets could be connected to crypto casinos and betting sites.

In the long term whether it's long or not but I feel also in the future all gambling sites will require KYC verification and this will be the rule every gambling site must follow.
Not only is it a matter of licenses but also the local government which has legality laws against the gambling industry.
But I'm still a little thinking what it will be like for all of them gamblers who don't like KYC and always prioritize Anonymity, will they also comply with mandatory KYC rules or will they leave gambling sites because of maintaining anonymity.

Most of what I know, every casino out there doesn't want to know who played on their casino. because it doesn't important who and where, the casino only cares about you play with comfortably, because of that they want to know by KYC, the rule in every country is to limit that, and won't under age play and enjoy your casino. I think if the government does not restrict "must KYC",  all the casinos here don't require it.

Won't under age play and enjoy casino? I hope that is not what you mean. You need to edit your post because that is what that post means.

Casinos wants their customers to play comfortably and the reason they want KYC? No.

I think if the government does not restrict "must KYC",  all the casinos here don't require it? Are you serious with this your wrong information. Government does not restrict 'must KYC. The government are the ones encouraging KYC because of AML and CTF purposes.

Many people had the misconception that crypto gambling is somewhat better than fiat gambling, mostly because of the idea that crypto brings more privacy and anonymity. In reality crypto gambling is no different than fiat gambling. The only difference are the payment methods.
The crypto casinos don't ask for KYC because they desperately want your private data. They are asking for KYC, because they have to fight money laundering. If a casino gets caught in a money laundering scheme, the casino owner will have big problems.
Nowadays most shady crypto casinos ask for KYC only to use it as an excuse to block the gambler and refuse to pay his winnings.

Leave the casinos requiring KYC for each of their users as privacy is no longer maintained. The reason we choose their casino to play on the consideration of the anonymity provided to each player will be anonymous. If KYC has been implemented, then they have pushed away every player who wants privacy to be maintained and the next option is to look for another crypto casino that does not enforce KYC even though later every crypto casino operating in the territory of a legal country will implement KYC for reasons of obtaining licenses and so on.

You have to be smart when you choose casino. How could one gamble on Betnomi after such a shady accident? (https://archive.is/NUdsW). If you can't do research yourself, then stick with casinos like Stake or sportsbet, they won't do an exit scam, they are enormously huge, popular and wealthy for that.
You totally misunderstood what I wrote, I don't suggest anyone to hold a lot of money, please re-read my post.

I'm saying that if you are an active gambler, there is a very high chance that you won't beat casino and overall, you'll be in loss. So, if you are going to gamble over and over again, there is no point to withdraw those coins because of KYC. Just leave them and gamble when you visit casino next time. I see no point in withdrawing of 1 BTC and then depositing it again when you know you'll lose.

It's at owners risk, anonymity isn't the only thing that casinos take away from Bitcoin owners, moving your Bitcoin from your wallet to casinos wallet makes you a centralized puppet too, but there is nothing we can do here, everyone is entitled to how they use their Bitcoin anyway even if it's the most decentralized digital currency till date, but since Bitcoin gives that freedom so its left for users to do as they like with their Bitcoin.

For KYC requirements, we have discussed this so many times on this forum already, reputable online casinos need your KYC information to keep saving their business from the centralized penalties that gave them access to keep running, it's not about stealing users data, sigh! It's boring to keep having this discussion over again.

You need to run your own casino without KYC verification first to prove that it's not needed, even those few casinos that started with no KYC requirement end up asking now because they are getting more popular and successful, they don't want to face panel.

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The above mentioned 3 are still advantages of the cryptocurrency casinos . We all can agree that they offer wider range of bonuses and this is understandable that they don't pay for rent and other operational charges. And also some natural disasters that affect traditional casinos do not affect cryptocurrency casinos.

It is true that many cryptocurrency casinos are centralized and almost accepting KYC as compulsory but there are still few which are very much anonymous but the government is seriously after them.

Since this is regarding anonymity, there are still gambling platfprms which does not require KYC procedures as we all know. And technically  anonymity is still there 'coz your information would be between you and the platform alone and still not with publicity.Sort of. But we are free to move away as well if such thing does not fit for us. Some players are fine with it and I'm one of those gamblers. My reason? I'd rather comply with sharing some of my information to my trusted platform than to risk being scammed by other gambling sites who's compensation is to just not require KYC. I've been playing for years and fortunately, nothing bad happened with my identity. Also, it has benefits as well such as against money laundering and limitation for  people under age 18 to access this industry.

In the future, all casinos will ask their users to do KYC because of government interference. And when that happens, we won't be able to play gambling at crypto casinos without doing KYC. But hopefully, at that time, there will still be casinos that allow their users not to do KYC and don't make KYC an obligation that all gamblers must fulfil. And only gamblers who use the money over the limits set by the casino should do KYC. And we should be grateful that several trusted casinos still do not implement KYC on all of their members, especially members who only play gambling with small money. Hence, the casinos still allow us to play gambling at the casino.

KYC, KYC and KYC  is the melody played in casinos. Additionally, governments are tapping their feet to the cadence. However, this is not the case for all casinos, merely a minority, though perhaps more. Consequently, it is somewhat perplexing, as if one were attempting to follow a recipe without all of the necessary ingredients

Some casinos are acceptable for low-stakes wagering. They are like, "No KYC here, pal." That is thoughtful of them. Then, however, big money players may have to perform the KYC dance, which is less cool, but still cool in a less cool manner

Consequently, where do we stand? Gambling, or not gambling, KYC? It's a bit like a jigsaw puzzle, except the pieces are made of jello and the box has no image. But fine, gamble if you want, or don't; the casinos are still there, for now

Whether we do like it or not then they would definitely be making out those kind of alterations when it comes into their decisions and we us users or gamblers would neither be complying or not on what they have set out. Yes, there are still a few which we could still able to play without needing those KYC but these would really be only into us small fries but on the time that you are already that making up huge deposits or big bets then this is where things becomes messy as if these platforms would really be starting on asking out those verifications yet not shocking since they are centralized platforms or regulated ones in the first place.

They might be offering those non kyc at first but it would eventually make out those changes on certain conditions.If this one doesnt suits out your taste then better not to play at all.
Sooner or later then most of them would really be going in line with government rules and conditions when it comes to these kind of approach. Its true that there are still other options that we could
deal with but in my part then i dont see myself on having a problem with this since i dont really make out huge deposits or simply not a huge amount gambler.

KYC is not a mandatory if governement was not pushing casino to be compliant with regulation. Government was the strongest entity that exist and controlling everything.

Small money rarely related to the money laundering while the big amounts potentially related to the money laundering. There's nothing wrong in implementing KYC to comply with the regulation. I do understand KYC is not a cool thing for you.

To my own understanding i think the implementations of the kyc system is the cause of this is a compulsory process required by most platform to provide a safe and secured space thereby requesting for some documents of their customers, before now the profiles of customers have been annoynimous making it easier for people to carry out fradulent activities and go free without any trace, their are people who violate the policies of a platform that deserved punishment like jail term but wasn't possible due to annoynimity but currently the cryptocasino through the help of blockchain technology have made it safer and easier to track down culprits and serve them justice.
 However there are still some casino that has not adopted this syestem due to the fear of losing numerous customers but i think with time they'll have to option but to adopt it due to the pressure that would be mounted on them by the government to carry out the implementation of the KYC or risk losing their businesses

You need to look closely into the "jump start" phase of most of these NO KYC casinos that are entering the gambling scene. They will enter the market with big promises of "NO KYC" requirements, but as soon as they reach their target for users, they forget those promises and they start asking for KYC verification.

They know it will eventually happen, when they grow big enough to attract the attention of the regulators, but they still use that tactic. Just go back to all the "BIG" Crypto currency casinos that started out with "NO KYC" requirements and see where they are now. (Freebitco.in being one of them)  ::)

There is no real decentralized online gambling platform, many people do not understand that once your Bitcoin leaves your wallet and is sent out to any online casino it's not more secured, every casinos are centralized and even if one doesn't ask you for KYC verification it still doesn't make such gambling platform decentralized.

I think NO KYC requirements from new online casinos are a strategy of finding many customers as soon as possible, they know it will attract some gamblers who don't like passing KYC for some reasons, but once they grow better and becoming more popular they will give out bad news that they have no choice but to compulsory KYC verifications.

If you are using a NO KYC casino right now, enjoy it while it last but I can promise you that things aren't going to stay the same for long.

It seems that only a few casinos in the crypto space are implementing no KYC. Since most of them are gamblers, they accept to pass KYC to casinos when withdrawing money won in gambling. That means most gamblers now accept kyc in short, right?
Itp I also just noticed and it is happening in the reality today in this field industry, and probably because of the issues that we are hearing about that the money can't be released and to be able to withdraw you have to pass a kyc which appears that there is no privacy in reality. .

You're not wrong because that's really true. If the casino is regulated by the Government, sooner or later they will ask kyc to their gamblers. So those casinos claiming their site has "No Kyc" is just using it to attract many gamblers to play on their site. But after some time, as a centralized casino they still need to verify the identity of their gamblers as part of compliance to the regulation.

Though there's still casinos existing as decentralized, majority are now licensed. So if you play on these sites expect that they will ask kyc at anytime especially if you're a whale gambler.

yes in fact a lot of decentralized sites released free sites without KYC, they didn't really last long most of them disappeared and went bankrupt out of the business eventually because not everyone nowadays feels safe with casinos that don't have licenses let alone KYC regulations, although many oppose KYC for undermining anonymity in crypto gambling.

The new casino marketing strategy is always like that to attract people who hate the KYC regulations that exist in crypto casinos nowadays, but not many play and register there, because I often see them creating ANN threads on this forum and finally they leave, after all why worry about KYC many big sites don't require KYC for bets of hundreds to thousands of dollars as long as they don't play foul and try to break casino restrictions. just that

of course you are correct mate , nowadays majority of casinos are asking for KYC and I think that is compliance to the countries restrictions and laws that brings them no choice to implement.
but also there are some casino that maintain their "NO KYC"  rules and that savor other gamblers that wanted to maintain their anonymity .
but why not comply and maintain anonymous when you can gamble safer and enjoying in those who asks KYC?
I'm not saying that all KYC requiring sites are legit but at least  we have proven already that there are more legit that we have been seeing in bitcointalk that asks the Know Your Client rules.

It's up to the player's personal decision to stick with casinos that change anonymity or look for other casinos that don't require KYC on players.
The purpose behind implementing KYC in a casino is not always negative. But every player feels it's natural to be careful with the identity they give out. I admit that by imposing KYC on players there is a positive side that will be obtained when players have problems withdrawing money and other problems that occur. I think there are players who are comfortable with that.
We are also aware that there will come a time when every casino will enforce KYC for the purpose of obtaining a license. That's the final choice that the company is forced to make.

Hope everything will be fine.
We and all the players who play in casinos like that hope to be far from the risk of bad impacts.

You are partially right in this case op. Most crypto gambling sites these days are enforcing KYC in some way or another due to regulatory pressure, but there are still a couple of sites out there that don't request any form of KYC.

This is why it is still possible to gamble anonymously though it's gotten a lot harder when compared to before.

Yes, KYC will become a must for every gambler playing in crypto casinos, and we have to accept it even if we don't like it. The current situation has changed, and with the government's intervention, we, as crypto gamblers, cannot do much. We can only follow the rules of the casino, and if we can't accept them, we can look for other crypto casinos.

But we still have crypto casinos allowing us to gamble with small stakes and deposits. And so that we don't get asked to do KYC by the casino, we have to keep the bet small because if we use big bets or deposit big money, there is a possibility that we will be asked to do KYC. But that's up to each person.

Earlier gambling platforms did not require KYC. As a result, a gambler could easily keep him anonymous and gamble. But those benefits are slowly shrinking. Most of the gambling platforms now require KYC. Be sure to complete KYC on all sites that are reliable. Moreover, casino platforms emphasize on doing KYC directly. As a result, if someone is unwilling to do KYC, he may face a big problem at any time. I think your words have enough logic in that respect. There are still some casino platforms that do not require KYC. But in the future, those platforms may compel to do KYC.

It is similar to a requirement, something that we must complete. As you stated, the entire KYC requirement is now a necessity that cannot be avoided. However, I must add that the entire concept of placing small bets to evade KYC is similar to avoiding something that already exists. However, it is similar to averting in a manner that does not completely avoid it. KYC is coming, and it may not matter whether you make modest or large wagers in the end. I say this not to discourage you, but to encourage you to recognize that KYC is a requirement that we must embrace. It resembles a must that is even more essential than other musts.

Almost all the crypto gambling companies are accepting KYC. It is difficult to see a truly non kyf casino.
Many people get scammed in the process of searching for a non kyc gambling.
Gradually everyone is buying into the KYC ideology apart from highly privacy people.
It is not only in the hands of the gambling companies to determine if they will go for kyf or not, but is also determined by the governments who licenced them to operate with certain conditions.

There are still a couple of casinos that don't require any form of KYC and only enforce it when dealing with big amounts or when they find something suspicious. Examples are Crypto.Games, Bitcasino, Fairlay etc.

Silver lining here is that non-KYC casinos will always exist though they will almost always be less popular when compared to KYC casinos.

I cant say that they would becoming less popular but rather be going the opposite since we know that majority of people here on crypto space would definitely be going into those things or places which are truly

decentralized because if we do try to look back on what crypto market or space should be then it should really be on the decentralized and fully anonymous kind of area on which even if things turns out to be having those changes due to regulatory actions made out by the government and trying out to regulate those platforms which is involved on crypto and make out huge revenues then its always been that good to see
or look that there are still some corners who do really still strongly stick into this space.

Its true that nowadays it turns out on becoming more strict when it comes to regulation aspects which its not really that shocking because government do really love to stir up things
according into their likes. Somewhat despite of such changes, we could still able to play with our favorite platforms that we do have on this space.

The funds from the customer will be frozen once they were not doing KYC. It's a must caused by it's also a part of how the platform can comply with the regulation. Seeing some casinos are not so strict in applying KYC for its users.
KYC is a must for any gambling platforms users with big amounts of money. AML is the main purpose why gambling platform must implement KYC verification to make sure the regulators will not take a fight against them. It will be also affect their business.
All of platforms are requiring KYC now. I think that only illegal platform who didn't implement KYC verification. Legal gambling operator must be compliant with the regulation.
There's no reason for not to implement KYC verification as this order was also coming from regulators.

If you want my opinion, popularity is directly associated with the daily volume of crypto a casino handles, which is also correlated to the attention a casino can receive from authorities.

What I am trying to say is that nonKYC casinos will be always less popular and known than KYC ones, because if a nonKYC casino becomes big enough, they may be forced by law to comply with document requirements to their gamblers, otherwise they would get their website at stake and all their business could disappear.

It is somewhat similar to what happened to exchanges, their CEOs decided that it was more important to keep the money flowing than the ideals of privacy and preservation or their clients and investors

You are speaking facts, there are some online casinos that are non-KYC platforms, but it's better for users to be prepared, those who moved from non-KYC casinos into KYC requirements KYC turned around in a day, the same thing can happen from these online casinos.

Rather than thinking such day will never come, and you comfortably gamble on such platforms, there might come a day where you will be asked for KYC verification and if you have some money trapped on the platform at the time, you will be left with two choices, either you leave your money and safe yourself from passing the KYC verification or you find means to submit your details and get your funds out.

You are not wrong, things have changed since when cryptocurrency casinos were first introduced, and those who aren't involved with them much these days might have different views about them and they are still living in the past, probably. This article you've taken this from and provided a link to isn't very old, it was published on May 21, 2023, so the writer probably did his research by reading old information online where this information isn't updated.

There might be a few casinos that might not be asking their customers to complete KYC verification even today, but it is not happening all around, and most cryptocurrency casino platforms would ask their customers to complete KYC verification at one point during their journey with them.

True. Gaining more popularity is a double edged sword for non-KYC casinos. Shady non-KYC anonymous sites are the only ones that would be fine even if they gained more popularity, but the risk is a lot higher obviously.

This is a big deal only for gamblers who value their privacy over everything else and there are a lot of them in the crypto world.

Most casino sites allow withdrawal without a certain amount without  KYC verification But it is not a huge amount.  So if you want to gamble with a large amount or want to withdraw after winning a huge amount, you must complete KYC verification.  In this case the gambler cannot maintain anonymity.  So I agree with you that anonymity never allows to enjoy a big profit. And even in any sector other than gambling, personal documents must be submitted in case of any large amount transaction.

I don't think they would be fine if they are shady and not so reliable, because people talks, reviews and recommends casinos around the internet. If the casino is indeed non-KYC and becomes popular because the high quality of its services, then as popularity grows, it would become more likely to be noticed by regulators and be shutted down.

If the casino is non-KYC but it's services are not that good, people won't recommend it and the volume will stay low, so will the attention from regulators.

That is why I say it is very unlikely we will ever find a big casino which chooses the anonimity of gamblers over high profit.

This isn't entirely accurate sadly. Take 1xbit for example. They are a shady site who promote anonymity and don't enforce mandatory KYC, but many gamblers are still playing there at present.

Regulators cannot really do much against such sites whose operating locations are in complicated areas.

Well, I've been looking for casinos that don't have that functionality to ask for KYC but it's very difficult, even freebitcoin itself is already asking for KYC, it's not something that stays up for me, but I don't like that when I go to withdraw the money they ask me for the KYC, it's annoying, because that delays me being able to get my money quickly, because when they ask for the kyc it always takes a few days and I want my money immediately, and that's why I say it's a bother, they should lose the KYC before making the deposit, because that is what indicates whether or not we want to be in the casino, instead with the withdrawal they are already like Conditions, it looks bad.

At the beginning of cryptocurrency was launched,the people get into cryptocurrency for the Anonymity.But the anonymity was not available in cryptocurrency based gambling because of the KYC in gambling is mandatory one.Some people finding the gambling site without kyc for still hold the anonymity,but the gambling without kyc is more riskier one.Even it will steal your money after winning by asking to complete kyc at the time of withdrawal.Then it will say the withdrawal is not available to your country and sorry for the inconvenience.Then it allow only to withdraw the deposit money from the gambling and it show you like a trusted website.But the fact is they scam your winning money at the end.

Wayback into those early years of crypto gambling where most of platforms arent asking KYC but now they are gradually turning out to be like a typical fiat casino.Although there are still some who are still that following that general idea or being totally anonymous but of course this would be only good if you wont really be able to reach out some threshold in speaking about on the amount you deposited or won up because on the time that you would be reaching out some high numbers then this is where KYC do normally kicks in.

Wayback on which these platforms arent really that minded whether they are licensed or not as long they are paying then its considered to be that legit and reputable but now most people are really that looking for their licenses on which this one is really that considered or does indicate that they are legit nowadays even dont mind about being becoming that centralized one. Well thats something inevitable
which changes and regulation wants to touch up on everything.

It depends on you because there are still casinos that allow gamblers not to do KYC as long as the gambler bets small money. But if you want to exceed the limit, you have to do KYC because by doing KYC, you can gamble big money and not worry about anything. Processing KYC from gamblers does take time so casinos cannot process it right away so gamblers have to be patient and wait for it. The casino carries out the verification process to ensure its members are not connected to any illegal activity, so the casino must check this in more detail. And the process is only done once; after that, you don't need to worry if you want to withdraw or deposit money.

You are not wrong but still there is some level of anonymity remain since only the casino holds your identity while they don’t all your information to the government unless it was ask to them. In a sense, You are still anonymous in the eyes of everyone including the government as long as the casino you are playing is truly protecting your KYC credentials. If we compared IRL to crypto casino, Crypto is still considerable as anonymous because no one knew that you are gambling because our accounts doesn’t have our personal information to the public compared when playing physically or other fiat casino that usually ask our bank account for deposit purposes.

That is a casino which I would consider to be a special case, though. Because we all know it operates as a branch of a bigger and more widely know brand, which is 1xbet.

By the way, we do not have a reliable way to know what the volume of 1xbit is, they may have a relatively low volume of deposits and actual users and the brand is used just as a platform to scam people around the gambling ecosystem, because no actual gambler would continue to deposit there, and risk their money.

You're not wrong because the authorities are trying all they can to make sure crypto casinos are very unattractive because people has been finding cryptocurency casino more nice to use than traditional casinos as transaction are done anonymously but that has changed.

The requirements of KYC been requested by every crypto casino has taken the anonymity from gambling as every account is now linked to a face that the government can get access to whenever they want by going to the casino to request for them based on security measures.

These casino don't have to blamed because the bad eggs among us has been using crypto casino for their evil plans like money laundering and other illegal activities. We can stay anonymous by not letting our personal wallet linked with our gambling accounts by using mixers.

Gambler's face a catch 22 situation when it comes come crypto and trying to retain anonymity. It's in the government sights now and while it is probably only the US government that can put immense pressure on businesses to comply, they take great efforts to stamp out money laundering if they can. It also leaves you in the situation where most legit companies now comply so they can access infrastructure and services which help to protect them against things like DDOS attacks. The owners have to take big risks if they don't use such services, which identify the owners and make them liable to threats from financial regulators all over - including the threat of jail time.

Yea, there are a couple of non KYC casinos but they are a few compared to the number of KYC casinos available in the industry.
I know of gambling companies that set KYC only when the winning is high. I do not think that this is right.
If there are no limits to deposit, there shouldn't be limits for withdrawal.  But the reality is that nothing is totally done to guarantee 100 % freedom. This is to prevent exploitation by random people . Because there some malicious people who are just seeking of loopholes to exploit

You are indeed right. Anonymity does not somehow a big issue at the moment since most of the casinos are actually requiring KYC most especially for big time players. Although there might be some few gambling casinos who are not into KYC verification, but I believe their system will definitely be updated and will require KYC sooner because that’s what the government requires them to do so.

However, there’s still some factors that we still become anonymous from others, but not from the casinos personal staffs. Maybe let’s just accept the reality that KYC will be compulsory in all centralized casinos all over the world. This is not only made out from the government wanting to control everything, but also for the sake of gamblers security and protection.

Its not right if they claim that they are 100% KYC free casino since if the case that they ask that when winning a huge amount then they must be up something and do delaying tactics to find an issue to the user so that they cannot possibly pay him. But now expect that casino will ask this KYC so people should read first the TOS of the casino so that they will not get surprise when certain requirements has been implemented nor asked to anyone who win a huge amount of cash.

Crypto casinos nowadays have changed a lot. They have started implementing a KYC policy for their users, especially those who deposit or withdraw large amounts of money. This is to avoid casino suspicion of users using money originating from illegal activities.

And that's why we often see users who are asked to do KYC before they can continue their activities in gambling. Casinos want to ensure that nothing related to illegal things is happening because regulators supervise casinos. And once the KYC process is complete, users can deposit or withdraw money unless the casino finds anything suspicious.

So users must read and confirm the TOS of the casino before registering so they understand that casinos can also ask users to do KYC at any time. And if users don't want to do KYC, they can look for other casinos. But it looks like this is also happening in other crypto casinos.

That's the sad reality as we push the government regulations, we are being forced to follow the KYC rules. Most of the casinos now are asking for KYC, but some are still not and they will only ask for KYC if they see some irregularities with your account. Somehow, KYC is indeed for the security purposes of both parties, let's just hope that secure our data with a highest priority or else, hackers might get our details.

Most of these casino just do all these because of the government rules that are tied to them operating their business. These casino are now implementing all these to avoid be sanctioned of money laundering law because most of the users deem their site to be a perfect spot for huge deposit and withdrawal which can cause lots of attention so that's why KYC is been called upon

In the past, the casinos were blamed by the government for harboring money laundering. A lot of them were either closed by the government or went offline, which caused issues for the users who had their deposits in these casinos. That is the reason why KYC is now being made mandatory in almost all online casinos. A few exceptions are there but sooner or later they will also implement KYC. With KYC you no longer are anonymous but as a user, you still have the anonymity factor with other users.

With people misusing the no KYC feature of the cryptocurrency casinos initially, this had to happen eventually. I remember the days when no cryptocurrency casino would ask you for KYC verification and you could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount you want without providing any personal information at all. Those were golden days, but as soon as people started misusing that freedom and started doing evil stuff, authorities and casinos had to go ahead and implement something to prevent that from happening.

And, here we are today, with regulations circling us from all sides, and it is all our own fault. I don't say that there wouldn't be regulations if there was nothing like that happening, but it might have taken some more time for this to happen, and the regulations might have been a bit easier.

Well, we as players will always have casino alternatives, when we start we believe that the best casino or the best alternative is the first casino we fall into, but of course, if we become familiar with it, we accept the casino as it is, we take the bonuses and we actively participate, I say this from the point of view of my experience, because when I was a rookie I became very fond of a particular casino, I liked everything they did there, in fact thanks to that platform a great community where we all supported each other and played and shared each strategy.

Now after that, when I saw that I didn't win much, I looked for other casinos to see the game and if I had it, I played, then I knew the casino, of course at that time I only played dice, then when I saw so many games it seemed strange to me to have so many options, and there were a lot of games, so I didn't think so, but after that I started to see more, that's why I found stake.com, also I can't deny that at that time the casino looked very nice, its color and atmosphere It is very characteristic, besides that stake.com has a forum and there you can participate and be very active, I like all these things, that's why I took a liking to stake.com, after one has a certain journey in casinos, in games of chance, become more critical and any platform one sees it with errors, or with things that do not add up.

In the casino I really like casinos such as duelbits, rollbit, bitcasino, among others, because they are reliable casinos, and I think that the best alternative to casinos is that, that they have a unique reputation and trust 'because the casino can be seen very pretty, flashy, in fact it can be friendly in its environment, but is it a fake casino? one of those casinos out there where they prey on newbies or people who don't know much about casinos and scams, those are the things that you should be very careful about, but in my case I don't get complicated, my casinos are few but the best , stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbtis, roobet, sportsbet.io, freebitco.in.

A casino cannot be a no KYC casino and yet requires you to fill in for KYC along the process, since we make use of cryptocurrency in gambling, it gives us the advantage to make decision on what we want and how we wanted to get it done, if we think privacy is what we need while using any of the casinos, then we can make use of bitcoin in making casino deposit and we proceeds in gambling, when we bet and win, they will not require the KYC except if the casino is a KYC platform in which you have to provide all the necessary documents before they can process your request.

Regret increasingly whack at the end of the story, many people are irresponsible with what they do and use casinos as their tool to wash their hands from dirty work and make a country lose money due to money laundering that they are doing, that freedom is getting more and more limited, it feels like the world wants to know who we are and what we are doing to keep an eye on us, the anonymity that becomes calm in carrying out activities becomes a thing that is suspected, which forces them to impose KYC policies on casinos, even though today we can still avoid it because there are still some who may not implement KYC, but it's a question mark whether they can be trusted or not, because of the legality of casino operations having to apply KYC to their casino in order to get a license to operate.

Until now, Money launderer still using online casino to launder their dirty money. This criminal is very pesky because they mix their money like a normal gambler which menas there will be no reason for casino to suspect them as launderers that will make this KYC purpose useless since it cannot catch launderers but only it will just use to delay or freeze someone money when they win huge prize in the casino.

I totally disagree on the use of KYC to counter money launderer since it’s useless in crypto because everything is decentralized and it’s very hard to spot user that laundering money and differentiates it to the normal player.

If i'm not wrong some studies about increase of gamblers in online crypto casino, not based on Anonymity factor, quite the opposite.

In my opinion, there are other factors or things why many people choose crypto casinos in general, it is caused by convenience, in contrast to fiat and physical casinos.

The meaning of convenience if interpreted broadly, for example: crypto casinos make deposits without having to queue at the Bank/ATM, as well as playing safe and easy, most people don't like complicated, they want it to be super easy in all matters, identity is needed in KYC I think it's not a barrier and an advantage for most gamblers, it's the basis of convenience that crypto casinos have their own charm for most online gamblers, sometimes KYC can be engineered, for that, in my opinion, anonymity is not the main basis as a tool for gamblers.

You might have misunderstood the implementation of the anti-money laundering council's regulations. While casinos might not have direct knowledge of the sources of their customers' funds, they are regulated entities and are obligated to comply with orders from the AMLC. If customers are suspected or proven to be involved in money laundering, the government agency can instruct the casino to close their accounts and confiscate the funds. Casinos don't take actions without a valid basis. That's the concise explanation.

I think with the KYC on some crypto-centralised platforms like exchanges or casinos, money looting or ill-gotten gains with money can still be detected, but that's when the wallet that holds the coin has been flagged, and if it's been flagged, the centralised platform to which that coin is being deposited can freeze your asset. Depending on whether they are aware that the sender's wallet is flagged or if it's a casino that you deposited to and you also pass KYC with them, they can hand over your personal details to the investigation team that is involved, and the victim can be traced and get caught. Unless it's a crypto casino that doesn't require KYC, even if they don't require KYC but get notified that a deposit has entered their platform from a flagged wallet, if they fail to comply, the casino can still get charged by the government.

Some people choose gambling platforms to legitimize the proceeds of money laundering and terrorist activities. If a person does not have KYC then it is not possible to identify them. If there is no other way to solve this illegal activity so no chance to ignore KYC. After all instead of making it mandatory for everyone, KYC should be done instead of those accounts whose activities are suspected. It is important to remember that it is not possible to ignore government restrictions.

That is possible yes since you can trace which wallet that an illegal or flagged wallet address is coming from. This is also as it happens with the banks, they can trace a flagged account and in their case restrict it or limit the transaction that goes there. In cryptocurrency, whether KYC or not, government can mandate a casino on a flagged wallet if they suspect any transaction from it

In the casinos before a few years ago they did not have a function for games of chance, players could always place their bets without having to leave their documents, very rarely the player had to leave their comments and could withdraw, currently it is mandatory, The casinos that did not ask for kyc before are already asking for it, that is something that cannot be controlled anymore, and a decentralized casino has some ways of working that I do not like, I am one of those who does not like to leave documents everywhere Because it's not good to be around leaving identification documents around, because you don't know who they fall into and that's dangerous.

We don't know if they are truly legit. I remember Facebook leaked the data of their users before and many of us considered it to be trusted since they are a big and old company. But even if we say that they are truly legit, what about the hacks that can possibly happen to them? Our KYC will still be a risk once the hacker took them a long with the money. They know that they can sell it in the black market and make more money.

This is the reason why many of us here are too concerned when it comes to KYC talks and it took them a long time to decide, whether they will give their KYC or not to the platform that they will use or are already using.

That should be expected.  A centralized casino that is licensed by a government will eventually implement regulations imposed by the government.  We should not be surprised if all the centralized casino will ask for our KYC, it is also one way of the casino to protect our account from being stolen.


Yeah players like us must be responsible enough to read the term of service of a casino, if we have some question we can always reach out to their support in order to verify things and be cleared of it. On the other side, casino should be straight to implement KYC from the beginning so that players won't get confused.  the vague terms about KYC should be cleared out and implement it even before a player can deposit any amount of money in their platform.  This way, players won't get into trouble of not be able to withdraw their winnings because they need to submit KYC for verification.

This is interesting because i thought that in crypto casinos the essence of kyc was to know their customers and being able to help law enforcement agencies if need be to identify gamblers whose KYC information is available in their database, but saying that the gambler wallet could be flagged may seem and sound impossible to me and the only possible way to stop wallet is to block the user account in the casino.

You are also very correct sincea wallet can bee placed on hold, but also we must note how hard that could possibly be in a crypto casino if it traditional casino then the user bank could be restricted but the online crypto casino, the case may differ.

Whatever you do or whenever we are pertaining into neither bank account or your online platform account then it would really be just giving out on the same result on which it would really be locked up on funds.
In speaking about KYC then it would be pertaining about taxation, regulation, tracking or whatever that these regulators are really that trying out to do or have some plans which in overall we could really be able to generalized that they dont really like on missing something knowing that gambling platforms or companies does generate out tons then it would really be that subjective to such regulation or other things correlated to it.
So far we do still have platforms that doesnt ask out some KYC as long you arent doing or violating something inside their terms then you could actually say that you do able to make yourself that somewhat safe
and also if you dont able to reach out that kind of amount threshold in speaking about deposits or withdrawal then they wont really be asking out but of course expect the unexpected on which there's always a tendency
that they would be asking out which its not really that shocking anymore.

That's basically the logic behind the implementation of KYC protocols, to deter money launderers, scammers, and every form of malicious actors from using the casino as a way for them to store their ill-gotten funds without getting caught. Virtually everywhere in the cryptocurrency world you can keep your money without getting caught if you're a scammer, but if you want to use it in real life you'd have to run it through an exchange, or convert it to fiat through online casinos, good thing that most of them do these since at the end of the day it stops these people from being able to get a hold of their funds outright. And while it's a flawed system that needs some form of improvement to make sure that it doesn't inconvenience anyone but those that need to be inconvenienced, it's a much needed one.

Sorry, but I didn't get your point! What are you trying to say?
Do you mean that even if the casino require kyc, we can remain anonymous by using bitcoin!
If so, then this is not correct. First, bitcoin is not anonymous, it's pseudo-anonymous. Second, the moment you send your documents to the casino for identity verification, you are no longer anonymous. Your identity has been revealed regardless of the payment method you will be using.

That's too bad though, and if am getting you correctly you are saying in few years time to come it would very difficult for any online gambler to actually see a casino whose system offer anonymity for the gambler? Online casinos have also gained reputation because of this popular feature but like every other good thing humans tend to abuse it and over use it benefits for negativity. Well am ok with sharing my info but the issue is that is my details safe with these online casinos?

While it is understandable that you think there's no longer anonymity because of the casinos asking KYC/identities and the same with the exchanges.

They have to do that to protect their business as what they're required by their country.

There are still casinos that allows people to gamble even without KYC but some conditions are applied like being limited in what you deposit and withdraw.

Choose a casino that won't force you to kyc but don't be surprised if all of a sudden, they ask you to.

Casinos are starting to ask for video selfies. Play at little to no KYC casinos.

And even crypto casinos also ask us to do KYC on their users. So we have to understand the purpose of the casino asking us to do KYC because the casino is in contact with the government, which will ask for reports on the players at the casino.

Asking the support service is always recommended to understand the casino's wishes so that there are no misunderstandings between us and the casino.

But misunderstandings still often occur among players because many don't read the terms and regulations listed in the casino. But many crypto casinos still don't implement KYC from the start because they know that not all of their members are big players. So casinos have not implemented KYC for all their players and only players suspected of suspicious activity are asked to do KYC. The important thing is that we read the rules and ask the support service if we still don't understand.

I agree that measures against money laundering must be taken, but I'm a bit afraid about a system where false positives might occur and, even more, where personal data can be handled dubiously by these businesses who ask for KYC.

In my country, for example, the Organization of Consumers and Users has recently sued some banks because they were asking too many personal data under the umbrella of the anti money laundering laws.

Now you talk about video selfies: how can biometric data like voice and face be used in the future? well, nobody knows...

Video selfies are scary. The ToS at every casino is almost identical. The only addition is now some casinos say they may share your information with a third party.

But who? and why!?

I can understand that they share the personal info with public agencies in order to fight against criminals, but third parties without further specification? Damn, I think that I will have to re-read some ToS just in case they added this clause.

As a European citizen, it is illegal if they share my personal info to other private third parties without my explicit consent, and it should be that way everywhere.

I'm not sure how many have this in ToS

Well, people are not enraged with submitting personal infos to companies and organizations because they share those infos with security agencies, but i think people are most angry and do not trust some of this companies because most times, they end up selling their customers private or personal information to advertising firms and companies for targeted ads, personal information are very expensive to companies looking for those to advertise their product or services to, and yes, such act without the consent of the user is highly illegal, but most of the time, this companies are protected from any kind of lawsuit by their terms of service, because they do include lines like "we have the right to share your personal info to any third party for whatever reason" that "what ever reason" and "and third party" already gives the company the power to do anything with their users personal information, but the thing is that, people don't read, and even for those that read, they sometimes do not understand what they are giving consent or agreeing to.

I wouldn't put the blame on these online casino asking for KYC because initially some of them wanted gamblers to remain anonymous but the pressure put on them by the government to know who exactly that they are dealing with so that if there is a big win or any problem that user can easily be known through your KYC information has left most casino with no choice but to follow the instruction of the government. I know that anything that the government is involved in must be centralized and nobody can say no to them or else you will lose your license and your business will be shut down. If I can provide KYC when using Cex,I don't think it will be a problem for me to do the same if I want to have fun.

the anonymity in gambling is something that gamblers can't really think about because their aim is to win gambling or to have fun either. Only then will they perhaps think of that when they have a large amount of money to be released at the casino where they will have to submit a kyc, only then will they perhaps think of anonymity.

But for me that's not a big deal anymore because it's normal to ask for the kyc to release winnings in crypto gambling actually because identification is important

Oh no, there are many gamblers out there that are very interested in anonymity for many reasons. To be fair, some of those reason may be related to the origin of the funds and that is why the KYC is implemented in any site that wants to allow users from certain countries to be users. But there are many legitimate reasons for anonymity as well.

Before many gamblers choose crypto casino because they can hide their identity for private reason. But case has became different when licensing and other legal matters has been implemented and anonymity has been erased due to this matter. And I guess this matter is not for people who want to be anonymous especially if they select those reputable casino since for sure they will be ask to provide their own identity. Its also risky to gamble our faith on unreputable casino or those small casino because scamming is maybe what we are facing there.

Even if it is illegal, there is no way you can be sure that companies don't do that behind closed doors. I've seen many cases where personal data got leaked by some apps licensed by the government for various reasons in many countries, even if there is a clause that makes it illegal. Maybe you can encourage your government to punish them, but the cost is not worth it for most users. I believe this is the major reason why people want non-KYC services to begin with.

The answer is that sharing information across all casinos is not secure. But there is nothing to do. For gambling, you have to choose the casino platform by looking at some good features. Even though the main purpose of gambling with cryptocurrencies was to remain anonymous, that opportunity no longer exists. Basically, this kind of restrictions comes for some people to abuse cryptocurrency. Now governments have made KYC mandatory for every casino. So, it will not be possible for anyone to keep themselves anonymous as before.

It is precisely because gamblers just want to have fun that they think that they don't need to do KYC because they are not gambling for money. But now, crypto casinos have changed because of regulations from regulators who want every crypto gambler who plays at crypto casinos to be required to do KYC, especially for those who get big wins. There is a certain suspicion about their account.

But for those who have frequently encountered KYC in many casinos, of course, they will not mind doing KYC because they think that it should be done to reduce illegal activities that occur in casinos. They also realize that doing KYC at the casino can help them withdraw their big winnings.

As long as they are not cheating and trying to launder money it seems like they don't need to send their identity and keep playing anonymously, without having to complete KYC as well, make sure to play honestly and know the requirements they apply, so far there are big casinos that don't ask for KYC to users who withdraw thousands of dollars like Stak.

So I think it depends on how the gambler plays, playing honestly will make him play anonymously without having to complete KYC on the gambling platform, even so there is nothing we can do to circumvent the existing regulations, because almost all licensed casinos definitely require an identity users if needed, playing on a KYC free site does not guarantee the safety of our money and that's something to think about, so I think it depends on whether the gambler plays fair or tries something that violates casino rules. i also gamble so far without KYC can withdraw money.

The essence of cryptocurrency is being secured and anonymity. With the centralized platform, the players do not have any more rights because upon creating an account, they agree with the terms and conditions that there's the information needed for them to proceed to make a gamble, be entertained, and more. Some casinos offer a non-KYC or at least a level 1 KYC etc, which requires an email and phone number for part of the verification for account recoveries. The essence of being anonymous might not as we expect. Some trouble with accounts now requires a higher level of KYC that makes the player more expose with the data privacy.

Although most of the platforms that don't require KYC are still legit, some of them are not, because most of these centralised platforms always get an issued certificate of operation, which enables them to carry on their business successfully in a country, and before they are offered the operation permit, they have to agree to abide by the terms of the government. So, some of the non-KYC platforms might not have really registered their businesses; as such, they are operating illegally, and if one is using such a platform that is operating illegally, you still have to be afraid and conscious of your money because if the platform collapses or gets caught by the government, they could be charged and all the funds of customers will be frozen. While some platforms also have KYC, they don't just make it compulsory until they have any reason to do so; then they can free the victim's account and ask the person to pass KYC.

After all it's about trust and there's a possibility of worst scenario could happen.

A legit no KYC casino is operated illegally, but the casino operated by good people, they will not scam. But there's a casino has license and ask KYC, they started to be a legit casino and then suddenly become a scam casino.

Similar like mixer where they're become the third party who mix the coins and know the input and output of the address, if they get caught, they could give the private information to the government.

You’re right on your take regarding the reason behind centralized services requiring KYC. IIRC the main reason why this centralized services aims to get licensed to operate legally is because they are accepting fiat as currency to their service which makes them legally obligated to follow the government law in regards with fiat AML.

Decentralized services such as DeFi and real decentralized casino usually doesn’t need license to operate since crypto currency is not a legal tender or nor regulated on most of the currency. It can be considered as play money only unless the specific country already have a rules on cryptocurrency regulation like US and EU.

I don't think there is anything wrong with that thought. If casinos are doing the KYC then they are abiding by their jurisdiction. Secondly, if they are doing the KYC then they are also making client-user contracts and it becomes one sort of evidence that we are registered on that casino, we have our cashier account too. As we move with time and make transactions they are getting recorded against our KYC so it's solid proof. Now, you never know when this proof will become an important thing in your life if somehow they do a scam of some type. This could be a lifesaver. I have seen peeps fighting for their life when some casinos ask for the KYC because if they have surpassed certain limits of transaction/winnings.

If that is the case then I hardly think the anonymous nature in a casino matters. I can understand when it comes to the physical one, but when it's an online casino, you have to be very cautious.

I prefer that casino do not ask for our KYC but usually this cannot be implemented in a real world because the casinos have to abide by the rules and regulations of the governing authorities and if they do not enforce KYC, these agencies will not allow them to run these casinos. We have to live with this.

However, Anonymity is a really good thing but unfortunately at present times when we have centralized gambling platforms, this seems impossible to remain anonymous.

Being anonymous is now a luxury on crypto caainos. Most reputable casinos are now collcting KYC for different reasons like abiding the law, can also be a precaution to abusers and cheaters. It's hard to find a keeper casino that doesn't full collect KYC. We can see new casinos offering no kyc collecting as some kimd of feature to lure people who want anonimity but the drawback is their legimitacy is not verified also given that they don't have a license knowing that they don't collect KYC. Being purely anonymous on an crypto casino right now has it's own risks.

The issue here is not whether a gambling site is centralized or not, as it cannot be argued that centralized casinos have been dominating the industry. The difference lies in the type of currency. For us crypto enthusiasts, we prefer gambling using crypto.

Speaking about centralized casinos automatically implies regulation; hence, KYC is required as a basic requirement. However, there are still gambling sites that do not implement it for all of their clients. This is something we can take advantage of if we are looking to gamble anonymously.

Look, KYC is a complete waste of time and rubbish. The real kicker, though, is that it's really necessary, especially for online casinos. You make a valid point when you say that casinos abide by local laws. Scammers abound, and the digital world is full of potential traps. The system as a whole would be significantly more exposed without KYC.

Each time a user registers on one of these sites, their purchases, winnings, and other actions are associated with their identity. You're also right on the money when you say that this proof could be valuable in the event of a hoax. Although anonymity may be in, the trail left by KYC may be the only thing standing between recovering stolen money and saying a heartbreaking farewell.

Casinos online arent like picking candies from a shelf in a store. They could be harmful, complex, and vulnerable to fraud. And even if I despise KYC with all of my heart, I cannot discount its significance in providing a risk-free gambling environment. Therefore, dream on, those who believe they may gamble online anonymously!

Your posts sums it up nicely since KYC isn't necessary at all casinos. We like cryptos so that we have a choice to cut out a third party. We like no KYC casinos since it does cut out that middle layer. It's our choice to play at casinos with or without KYC. Almost all casinos that go out of business have a license with a KYC clause so we aren't protected by having to go through KYC.

Yeah, the idea of KYC might not be bad, but it really has a strong disadvantage that can cause harm to customers. mostly those KYC-centralised exchanges where users are carrying out KYC before they trade their crypto asset; perhaps if the government decides to launch an attack on Bitcoin investors, they can really get our details and login IPs from those CEX. Although, for casinos, it is also the gambler's choice to go on KYC or not. Well, in my country, there are more than 6 different online casinos, of which most of them that I use still have KYC compliance, but they don't make it compulsory until there is any need for it, maybe if a flagged bank account or wallet deposit is made to the casino.

It's bullshit just as much as statements that CBDCs are going to benefit society because they're completely transparent, that your money is safe in the bank, that inflation should not worry you because it's normal, that money printing is normal, and of course, last but not least, that bitcoin is bad for the environment.

Do you really believe that the reason for KYC is to stop money launderers? How many money launderers are there really in a country? How many of them launder millions of dollars a year? I'd say not many. Why do all people have to lose anonymity because of these few people? Why do we, and by we I mean people like you, because I don't, support collective responsibility? Collective responsibility is a scam and a way for governments to abuse the public.

As you rightly said, level 1 kyc might not be a threat to the anonymity of a gambler
Anyone can use a throw away phone number and email that is not related to their identity to open an account and complete a level one kyc on the casino website. Where the major problem lies is when someone is expected to begin submit their document and scan their faces in order to be able to withdraw their funds in a casino that has initially promised to be a non kyc casino.

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I agree, since online service is boundless, the centralized casinos will definitely want to take advantage of the limitless potential of an online platform but to  acquire it they need to comply on different countries regulation.  Also accepting fiat currency also often a new audience for them creating a new set of customers.


Decentralized casino games are too boring because of their existing game were originally created by the developer of the casino.  Many centralized casinos aim for the growth of their platform so they need to make their platform more presentable.  They tend to acquire third party services that possibly requires a casino license which then triggers the KYC requirement for the players.

The way I see things, if I see anything that asks for documents as a threat to Anonymity, if you give your ID or your cell phone , passport , they will know who you are, and they also know what they do, where you live, that is enough for anything, not just for hackers and criminals , but for keeping track of people who always have casino records and know they have crypto , which makes governments an easy target to pay taxes on, and having different ways of being able to have them in a system where the yoke will always be there, that's what I don't like about a kyc because the governments take advantage of that, you don't know when they will take something from you or ask for something.

This is a common misconception. The main advantage of cryptocurrencies (most of them at least) is not being anonymous but being a trustless payment method. Bitcoin, the leading crypto, is not anonymous, it's pseudonymous.

This is not correct. It doesn't matter whether the casino accepts fiat or not. As long as it's a licensed business they need to comply with regulations. Even pure crypto casinos, if licensed, they need to enforce kyc.

It is natural for centralized platforms to do KYC for high quality money transactions because if kyc system is not kept here then many people can use them to complete heinous activities like money laundering and for this reason kyc is made mandatory on every licensed sites. And sites that don't require kyc are mostly unlicensed sites. so how can you trust those sites that they won't cheat you when you trade high quality money and win huge jackpots. So definitely anonymity in gambling sites will keep you in a limitation where you won't be able to win high quality money.

Well, yes and no.
If you are playing just to have fun in casinos and won't far where your money could hit the anti-money laundering act then you are safe, you won't need a KYC, just the email will do. Now, if you are taking it further by betting high amounts then you should start thinking about it because casinos would definitely act so that they won't be the one targeted by government officials. They need to abide by the rules of a business especially in the financial district. They cannot just let people gamble money while they are unknown. It's actually not different from trading and investing. You cannot buy loads of Bitcoin today and remain anonymous especially if you buying at a known exchange. They always use KYC even at small amounts of purchases.

Our KYC is not tha timportant for casino but the main problem since they have been getting licensed by the regulators and the platform must follow what already ordered by the regulators. This is something that can't be avoided.

Your platform already listed as a legal platform and do you wanna see your platform listed as illegal platform for now follow regulartor's order?

The main purpose for KYC to decrease money laundering. It has no other purpose than it. Don't expect casino to use your identity. The casino just wanna see people play spending their money as much as possible in the game provided by that casino itself.

This isn't true. All the casinos have a license. Some just use the license to steal money from us. No one of the forums has ever been caught money laundering so people should stop using the AML excuse.

Whatever the reason for KYC, I have to agree with you on the part that the casino will not use our identity for something inappropriate especially if we talked about a reputable and popular casino. These casinos are prioritizing all the things they needed to comply as part of being a legitimate site. There is no way these casinos will take advantage of any KYC-related stuff.

Adding to that, the casinos even want more users to welcome on their platform that's why as much as possible they don't want to give their users a hassle way of registering accounts and asking a bunch of identity-related things. But since the verification process is part of the regulation, they have no choice but to follow.

Fortunately, there are still lots of crypto-gambling sites that do not mandate KYC so better enjoy those while it lasts.

The information isn't safe because employees sell the databases with the customer information. With fiat books, there is full KYC and it happens quite often. The bigger the casino, the more the database is worth. I know of some that were being sold for $20k. Most casinos are located in Curacao and that's more than the average yearly salary in Curacao. Inside jobs will happen.

You can't call them non-KYC casinos if they will ask for KYC verification when someone tries to deposit or withdraw a big amount, or if they find something suspicious. A non-KYC casino by definition is a casino that doesn't ask for KYC verification at all, if you are requesting a big withdrawal, they might take some time to process it, but they wouldn't ask you to provide some identity for it to proceed further, that is what you would call a non-KYC casino.

If we consider that being non-KYC casinos, I believe a lot of casinos don't ask you for identify verification when you are depositing $50 and withdrawing $100 after completing the wagering requirements and everything, but when the amounts start to get big, that's when they prompt the verification process.

While what you've said is true but there are actual casinos that don't have the license to operate and yet they still operate. They're only going to work on it when some folks noticed that and demands them to have.

Well, there have been in the past that some gamblers do complained that they've been locked with their balances. Not knowingly, when the casino that they're complaining about responded, some tend to actually do it. But these days, I doubt it that most casinos will give full disclosure of reasons like that.

KYC information for illegal activities is old school now, if KYC theft can cause a big damage we would have heard about bad news from every angle and the warning of taking KYC information very seriously would have filled everywhere including the News channel on TV, I don't believe that criminals can use any KYC theft to fake identity without knowing that's fake by the authority, the world is advancing in technology, even criminals that undergo face surgery to evade getting caught still end up getting apprehended.

The right method with KYC verification is to use your identity on trusted online casino, this is safer compared to casinos that have bad reputation, so do some research at first before passing KYC on any gambling platform.

Yes, that's what you should do, never make big deposits and play with big bets so you get big wins on small or new gambling platforms, because usually they will make it difficult for users with KYC, but if you play with community recommendations and are trusted on this forum, I'm sure everything will be safe, don't hesitate to ask this forum to do research and find the best platform.

I'm sure all the community will suggest the best platform where users don't have to provide identity and complete KYC for some reason so they won't be bothered with KYC problems, that's why asking the forum community is highly recommended considering we may have experience gambling on several platforms so we know how. services and regulatory systems used. anyone should do some research before gambling and it is very important

I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that KYC theft isn't occurring just because you aren't hearing about it on the news all day. You know, not everything negative makes headlines. After all, you hear about major celebrities getting into trouble, not every Tom, Dick, or Harry

Yes, technology is advancing, but thieves are also getting more sophisticated. What is meant by "deepfakes"? Very strange things. Not every stolen KYC makes headlines

I do agree with you regarding the casino part, though. Really, you should roll the dice somewhere legitimate if you have to do it online. DYOR and be careful

That is what we should do if we want to do KYC because by choosing KYC at a trusted online casino, our data will be safe from bad things that can happen and not be used for other things or misused. We have to make sure to do KYC at a trusted casino so that we are also calm about providing personal data.

And avoid being easily attracted by offers from casinos that say that they can get more bonuses by doing KYC at the casino. We don't know how the casino is and only by finding out more details can we do.

And if you don't want to do KYC to play gambling, you should look for other casinos that don't apply KYC to their users. Or you also don't need to play gambling if you feel uncomfortable implementing KYC for gambling users.

of course crypto because we are in crypto world here . but have you asked the sentiment and stands of online gamblers that uses fiat?
we have no idea actually.
of course like what you said , centralized casino is Dominating the scene but still there are decentralized that does not ask for our details.

There are very few completely decentralized gambling sites. And one thing to keep in mind when you gamble on sites that currently don't ask for KYC is that they may ask for your documents any time you win big.
Therefore, gambling anonymously has become difficult in the current situation, with gambling sites forcing crypto users to do KYC against their will and sometimes by force. So looking forward to seeing the rise of decentralized gambling sites to keep crypto users private.

You cant blame out people not to be that too paranoid when it comes to this on which this is the main thing that could really happen on a certain individual in speaking about on giving out their kyc documents on a certain platform on which there would be always those chances or probabilities which these information could be sold out somewhere on internet or would really be having those breaches or hacks which it is really just that normal that people would be having this kind of approach on something in speaking about KYC and this is why it is really that highly frowned upon on this space or something that never been that ideal or something that would really be that recommendable on dealing or going along with it.

Now that we are living in a world which government do really loves on controlling everything then it would really be just that normal that they would really be having that kind of approach on things which trying out to
control everything and if there's something that would goes off with their radar then they would really be trying out to control or get in touch with it on which it will really be just that normal that these crypto platforms
would be sooner or later will become like those typical casinos that we do have.This is why it would really be just that better that you should really be trying out to accept the reality since we are really that
heading on there.

If you are from some country where gambling is regulated and all accessible gambling site within such region is licensed which make it impossible for any citizen to register at a casino without going through KYC, and if you are a citizen of such a country, you have no choice than to hand over your documents for verification so privacy doesn't mean much for some who left with no choice but to submit to demands.

So I believe most of the gamblers are already aware of that fact and they will always look out for ways to either avoid losing their privacy or decide to hand it over if that becomes the only solution for them.

It is simple and there is no need to argue against the casino platform.  If one is not confident that his data privacy can be stored safely then he just needs to avoid that casino platform and stop playing on it.  The casino cannot force us to play in their platform, they may entice us but can never force us.  So if a player have issue in submitting KYC, then he can just look for a casino platform that does not require one.


Well, that is the nature of the government and the reason why they are named government.  They wanted to govern everything under their jurisdiction so it is not news that they wanted to control everything.  Anonymity is more like a story of the past now in a centralized gambling platform, the only good thing with crypto casinos is that one can still play even if they are unbanked.

KYC regulation by country for cryptocurrency casinos and year that they opened a sportsbook

Costa Rica- zero to some KYC. It can be zero as long as you aren't multi-accounting or using a VPN. Data processing license.

1. Nitrobetting (2013)


Curacao -  zero to mandatory. As with CR, not using a VPN will help keep you away from KYC. Rule changes will occur on September 1. Each casino will have it's own license instead of the current system of 4 master licenses. In order of KYC grade.

1. Betcoin (2013) none if not using a VPN or multi-accounting.
2. Bitsler (2015)
3. FortuneJack (2019), casino (2014)
4. Cloudbet (2013)
5. Sportsbet (2016)
6. Betfury (2020)
7. Owl (2021)
8. Rollbit (2021)
9. Turstdice (2019)
10. Wolf (2019)
11. Duelbits (2020)
12. Stake (2019), casino (2014)
13. Roobet (2019) Mandatory
 

Isle of Man - mandatory

1. MaverickGames (2020)

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Note- There are new KYC requirements starting September 1st in Curacao. The KYC ratings will be changed if books take a different stance after September 1.

You are right. Reputable casinos will do their best to keep your personal information safe.
I don't know what happened with bitnomi but it's a bit disturbing. It was one of the most reputed casinos. When they went dark, their customers' info were in the streets. Betnomi's customers reported receiving unsolicited messages from unknown parties!

True. I don't wanna take it as a serious problem. Exchange site like binance have been handling KYC from more than 150 millions people. It has larger scale compared with gambling site.


There will be no ending if we are always thinking like that. When we are registering for the bank account and we must also submit our KYC too. There's no difference between it. Those casinos mostly located in curacao but some have been licemsed to operate in some major countries like USA or UK.
Our data might be sold to some things like banking sales or etc. It's possible but i don't care so much as long as my data is not used for the criminal purpose.

Even if they claim it, none of them have a license to be in the US or UK although they do cater to those in those countries and you can play there without worrying about being paid. Personally, I don't like turning over my KYC info or selfie video but understand those that don't have that concern. All swans are white until you see a black one.

I have always been very discreet with my personal information, I have only given my kyc in a few casinos, and the most reliable ones, but if anonymity has been lost much, the casinos have made a campaign in favor of KYC to Being able to attract all the clients, and even the casinos that did not ask for kyc are already so, which makes me sad and disappointing because the casinos that kept zero KYC for me were the best, now nothing is reliable anymore . The casinos that I have given my kyc are trustworthy, they have a good reputation in the forum, my duelbits is one, I trust their casino. But if we think that the casino can be compromised, or somehow someone leaks the data is possible, it can stop, but everything in this life is a risk, we can't do more.

I still miss the good old days of directbet. Where you'd just bet and send crypto to an address and receive the winnings back to an address you've provided. No account, no kyc, no drama.

Pretty straightforward but given how easy scammers can impersonate these kind of casino scheme makes me happy that it's not as popular back then as today, these type of scam will probably the main reason why victims will post on Scam Accusations board. Wouldn't also this kind of casino be a good way for crooks to launder money? I mean they can just create their own website that does this and funnel the money there right?

I think it's for the better that a total anonymity is not a thing anymore for casinos, makes it easier for both parties not to be hassled. I've read a lot of scam accusations in the past and most common reason why some funds are withhold is because there's no identification for the customer and there's no real person or face that you can contact when the casino holds your funds.

The sacredness of privacy and the right to remain anonymous have been ruthlessly undermined in the name of compliance and attracting more customers. Casinos, once the stalwarts of discretion, have sheepishly kowtowed to this growing trend of KYC. And for what? A little more business at the cost of personal integrity?

Duelbits may have a reputable standing now, but what guarantees their fortitude in the future? The threat of data breaches, hacking attempts, and internal compromises is very real! The economics of it all just dont add up. In their greed to maximize profits, casinos may well be playing Russian roulette with their very survival. How do we know our data is safe? We dont. So why risk it?

How come you single out Duelbits here while casino that collects data including Stake which you are promoting is prone to data breach. Also casino usually use a 3rd party service to conduct KYC as requirements by the law.

There’s always a threat of data breach on all service eve with the government site. At the end of the day, it’s all about trust on the service or else stay away if you are afraid of potential leak of your credentials.

Some do risk and some wouldn't really be doing so and good thing that we do still have some options on which we could choose from. Despite of the gradual changes on which crypto based casinos should really be totally anonymous but it turns out that it do becomes more stricter in terms of KYC and other identification type of approach but still those are just potential things to happen because most of them wont really be requiring those things before you can play but somewhat these things could be asked out on the time that you had violated something or do able to have that huge hit or winning which it turns out the be standard nowadays. This is why it would really be that better that you should really be expecting something like this in speaking about changes. Just like the rest been saying that it would really be just that normal for the government to have this kind of act yet they cant really afford on missing out to impose taxes with these business despite of its nature or on what it is really that focusing, as long they could put out those regulation then they would really be definitely be applying it.

It's not entirely true anyways... AFAiK, there are some casinos that don't even care about the KYCs anymore - mostly since they've observed that it's becoming a problem this days..
Alot of things are happening in today's world and it's infact, a mojor constitute...but why would anyone be really keen about maintaining anonymity if not for covering up money laundering cases?? So many peeps don't wanna be monitored and that's against the T/C's of most casinos with obvious reasons... They don't wanna be sued for illegitimate ordeals..

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That is a pour truth because i have read players' testimonies where they win huge amounts and the casino never ask them for verification even when they exceed the no kyc withdrawal trench hold it is still left for the casino to decide whether to ask for KYC or not, and if the account doesn't exhibit any abusive behaviour in the system,  some casinos will just decide to let the account operate freely.

So it all depends on the underlying conditions that around the players that warrant the casino to ask for such from time to time, but also we have to settle with one fact that.

Centralized casinos have 100% right to ask for KYC, most especially if it is written in the terms and conditions of the casinos.

Those that are leaders with an alpha personality want to be left alone and get their money when they ask for it. Most are followers with a beta personality and don't mind having their money frozen for weeks while casinos do thorough KYC searches.

Maybe thats happening with the gambling platform, but the functioning of KYC free platforms used to be something different. Whenever something related to KYC comes, what strikes me is the directbet. Such kind of functionality won't have any issues with noney laundering, because there is limit with the bet and the bet can be placed from the wallet in which we need the bet amount to be settled. If the amount need to be settled on some other wallet address that can also be done. Winning bets gets settled and the lost one will be left, and this way the possibility of money laundering seems to be hard.

this is normal in every businesses that conduct to bring money for people and investors.
Yeah , thats the line now of gambling business , yeah look at how legit casinos are bringing their site with KYC requirements.
but I think that is the safer way of having business together?

the team to know whos legit players , and the players to at least know their casino better.

That's to my point of being a follower. Everyone is starting to do it so it's ok. It seems that when casinos ask for KYC for AML that the book turns your information in to the government and now you're on some list. Even if you aren't doing anything wrong people are just becoming too submissive.

Nope, no need to update what's already written, it'll be enough if new articles reflect the update, rest will follow.

One should always do some basic research before joining a platform. If a platform is asking for KYC at the initial stage of your journey with them before making any deposits or withdrawals, you need to make sure that the platform is trusted and has a good reputation among gamblers in the community, upon finding out that it is trusted and reputable, you should go ahead and complete the verification, but if it's the other way around, you better keep looking.

This basic research will save you from platforms that are not trusted and they might take your personal information and sell them to other companies or people for money, and those people will obviously not use your information for doing good things, so it's always important to use only trusted platforms.

Now it's just a pipe dream. Do you really believe that governments will just sit idly by and allow all that potential tax revenue to slip when the stakes are so high? None at all. More stringent KYC standards are being implemented, especially when significant amounts of money are at stake
A pro gambler offers this advice: always be ready. After a significant triumph, don't be shocked if these platforms request additional information. If you intend to stick with it, know the rules, abide by them, and constantly keep your wits about you. Just like you, governments and corporations want to succeed. Don't give them the advantage

Anonymity is still a benefit for crypto casino, what's people refer about anonymity in crypto casino is no one should know him as a gambler. It also not mean he really want to be unknown, they're don't have any problem to show their identity to the casino because they think it's impossible the team behind the casino will tell his friend and family if he's a gambler.

I do not know why he singled out Duelbits. Could it be the OP mentioned Duelbits in the starting topic? But when you talk about casinos, KYC and anonymity. It is not referring to any particular casino be it the one you promote or not. The truth is that once you have given out your data, you no longer control it, you will be at the mercy of the company or casino that holds your data.
So it is so much related to trust and reputation. You must be able to trust a particular casino you promote. Both Stake and Duelbits have nice reputation in this forum

I am in defense of duelbits, because it is probably the casino where I play the most and I believe that they are honest, the risk that they say of violating the data, of stealing, of falling for a type of hacker, that is the same fear that exists for all casinos, and more for the most famous casinos and with a very high reputation, for the best ones, they all have and run the same danger, not only duelbits, what stands out about duelbtis is that I have never had any problems, when There is something that cannot be done, the support gives the best options and the problems are resolved, as is the case with many other casinos in the forum, that is why in this case they enter only with duelbits, because it is a cinso that improves every day.

Not only into that reason which it is really that impossible for those information to be said on family members or simply unlike to happen.What most people been worried about is on those informations would be

leaked and would scattered out on internet which it can be misused on other means or simply being sold off into those illegal markets which this had been the main concern on why everyone is really that keen on
sending out documents or having with those verifications. we this community does really love that anonymity which crypto gambling does give but due to relevance of its existence on which it did really caught up
government attention plus having not liking on skipping on imposing taxes on them then its impossible that they wont really be stirring up on things.

This is why its not really that shocking anymore on why these platforms and businesses would really be mainly targetted out or would be having no exemptions when it
comes to taxes which government does really like on touching on everything.

It is just a question of how and when are you asking for it. If you have the right to ask for KYC do it since minute zero, be honest and straightforward with you client and do not start putting obstacles when it is so obvious that you have to give their hard earned earnings back. It is so suspicious that the concerns are raised right the moment they withdraw that is very close to a scam.

You get it. When the casino suddenly asks for KYC they want to steal your money or they are turning you in to the government.

^KYC was expected to ask if you are in a centralized casino but it does not mean all of them steal your money.
It is not necessarily accurate to assume that a casino asking for Know Your Customer (KYC) verification is attempting to steal your money or report you to the government. KYC procedures are standard practice in the gambling industry and many other sectors as well. They are designed to comply with legal and regulatory requirements, such as anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing regulations. You become a trusted and successful casino and being a part of that is to require a KYC. Casinos and other financial institutions are often required to verify the identity of their customers to prevent illegal activities, such as money laundering and fraud. Requesting KYC documentation helps ensure the legitimacy of transactions and maintains a secure environment for all parties involved.

it's def for tax reasons.. but i think it's also for deposit matching. say a site has a 50% deposit match up to $500.. without KYC why would someone deposit over $500 on the same account? they wouldn't.

That means it's only applicable for the low deposit but the guy who deposit a huge amounts of money must have completed KYC first caused by the account can be potentially marked as suspicious account related to the AML regulation. I can't really sure if it def for the tax reason. 

The time flies and it's not longer applicable anymore. Most probably the regulator will be ruining your site. There's no decentralized casino. All of casinos are centralized.

AML always become the main reason it's no longer applicable since there have been many criminals who stole funds and did the laundering for the funds.

Almost all Casinos have now implemented mandatory KYC verification and it is understandable why they do it. But, you cannot ignore that there have been instances in the past where a trusted online casino has scammed its user by suddenly exiting with all the deposit. Those documents obtained by the casino under the guise of KYC can now be utilized in additional fraudulent activities. They might also sell them in the black market or can be used for online extortion. When a casino forces the customer to go through KYC due to government regulations then those regulations should also be applied to these casinos. I have not seen yet any kind of mandatory law for these casinos by any government to safeguard user data. 

I agree with most of the post above with one disagreement. As of now, no crypto casino in Curacao or Costa Rica is required by law to do KYC upon deposit. New laws go into affect September 1st. Starting then we'll see if any changes occur.

KYC, being what it is doesn't spare you, your details are already disclosed as your identity is laced on every track of the way but if there exist a possibility of keeping gamblers anonymous, it will further encourage patronage but how can a gambler bank on anonymity when his KYC has been duly verified by you, that remains the golden question.

Both crypto casino and regular online casino still give us anonymity from the general public knowing that we're into gambling. Where using cryptocurency has more benefits is that you can hide your identity from banks and they won't know where your money is coming from.

But when you use the regular online casino and use the fiat payment options for depositing or withdrawing, your banks can know what you're into and then there's no anonymity anymore. For both crypto and regular online casino, you can't hide your identity from the casinos.

Anonymity is still a benefit of using cryptocurency casino as you said because it prevents us from the embracement we might get from the society for been a gamblers since people known to be gambling still experience some discrimination in work place or at home.

It's still minimal if it's merely asking for KYC at the time of withdrawal, the worse part is that you will provide every needed document but they will still not approve your account. This is just because of your winning, and they will be finding excuses for holding your money. I don't think there is a company (gambling or not) that I don't first do my KYC before I entrusted my money with them for the past 18 years. I make sure that my account is fully certified, and if they started making excuses for withdrawing my money, then I would know immediately that it's foul play.

A no-KYC crypto casino should be the best judging by the nature of cryptocurrency but lack of trust and regulation have tied their hands. Even at that, they have excesses under the guise of KYC, which is why it's good to look for the ones you can only trust.

They are bound to comply with the regulation that if the government asks for the client's data, they might just give it as well. I don't think there is a casino that you can trust but as long as you play and withdraw minimal funds, you could just skip the KYC requirements.

There are however casinos that ask KYC regardless of how small the funds you are about to withdraw, I tried this from one casino which still asks even if the funds I got were just $70 worth of Doge.  Never bother to withdraw it but play the risk of putting it all to the underdog by KO.

That's true. Casino wouldn't sacrifice their license for the sake of a single gambler. If they are asked by their license provider, I think it's obvious that they won't hesitate to comply with it.

If a casino has a license and didn't declare that they won't collect KYC, don't be unconcerned about KYC since they still has a chance that they will collect it from you. It is the experience of the majority of low bankroll gamblers but don't assume that it will also happen to you because we don't know what is the real criteria of casinos.

When I started with everything that has to do with cryptocurrencies, the coin that welcomed me was an anonymity project in the coin and I learned a lot from there, that's why I wonder, why don't they put Monero in casinos? Monero is a crypto, it is a currency that has legality, that anonymity is something since it offers, but casinos should include them, governments and those who are not interested are going to put themselves against it, but casinos should be a little more aware and give the players that opportunity, I know they have KYC, but they should let the players maneuver later, after being out of the casino and it is the problem of each player, I consider that.

We do still have some old platforms which remain still to have that no kyc and including out XMR(Monero)
https://crypto.games/dice/monero and there are other games offered too with this kind of deposit option.

But in overall it is really just that these businesses are getting in line with government rules and regulations on which if ever they wont really be opposing on their laws or whatever that had been stated
then they cant really be able to operate and since majority of people would really be that preferring on sites or platforms which does have license then for sure they would really be following on something.
There are still some options that we could have today which it is really that good to see just like on crypto.games that i have put up above, which does still give out ton what crypto casino should be.  ;)

We still have a lot of decentralized casinos that doesn't require any one information or KYC verification before they allow the gambler to play on their casinos and at that, we can choose to only play on such casinos instead of handing over your identity documents to a third-party platform that you can have confidence in the safety of that information and documents.

But if you have any one of such that you trust their systems and reputation and you believe that your data are saved on them,  it means you can easily trust them with your data and if you have nothing to hide you won't have much to border about handing over a few verification doc.

Well, you do got a point specially on the platforms that you've been long time using or dealing or hanging out with on which it would really be that building up that kind of trust and confidence that if ever these places

goes south and make out that changes then you would really be complying things without having that kind of argument on your mind whether you should proceed or not. This is why it would really vary on each person.
Its true that it would really be that definitely be that a huge hindrance if ever we do tend to play on a site and then asking out some documents or verification. So far based on real experience with the current platforms that we do have in the market today.
Most of them are accepting deposits and could only potentially ask out some verification on the time that you do win big or having some violations.This had been
a known situation or common  scenario for most platforms today.

Yes most of the regulatory compliance casinos that require kyc to play on them are majorly interested in huge transactions such as demand for kyc on amount of $5,000 and above transaction amount,  be it deposits or withdrawal,  such casinos offer the players some level of privacy and decentralization if the gambler operates within that transactions limits,  as also again only when there a suspicious activities from the gambler them also will the casino request them to go through verification process.

I believe that many of the gamblers already know this fact and have settled with it that the casinos in that class,  have the right to request for KYC documents at any point their wish to without any limitation as long as there is a standing order from the beginning that there will be kyc.

Anonymity is a big feature that attracted huge number of gamblers towards cryptocurrency based gambling platforms. This is all because of the privacy concern and at the beginning days the Casinos too didn't consider it a big thing. With time the regulatory needs, competence and the illegal transactions made the Casinos request KYC. However it is possible to play and withdraw limited amount without kyc. So, the Whale gamblers are the must to fulfill KYC as the deposit and withdrawal will be big.

The risk is very high. You didn't own your money if you have deposited it to the casino. Let's wake up if you may able to gamble with small amounts without KYC but the chance for your account being frozen by the gambling site is quite high.
Casino was just implementing the same verification like what exchange sites did. There's nothing wrong with it as long as the service is not turned out to be a scam.

People will able to deal with it easily without any problem. You can do nothing if that requirement was coming from the regulators. The regulators can ruin it anytime. KYC is easy requirement.

So we as small users can still play gambling at casinos that may ask for KYC from large users or whales. And because we gamble only using small money, the casino will not pay much attention to it unless we are indicated to be involved in illegal activity or the casino suspects us of cheating or violating the rules that exist in the casino. But as long as we don't do anything that could arouse suspicion from the casino, we will be safe and can play gambling in peace and when we want to withdraw our winnings, the casino will allow and process it because maybe our winnings won't be as big as whales. But we might be asked to do KYC when the winning money is big. So we can only be prepared.

Well, it should be embraced that every casino is free to ask verification, KYC if they needed so and customers can't stop that if they want users to comply.

It's easy requirement but we don't want that to happen to us because we don't like it to be implemented as it seems like a stopper with our activity. But those small gamblers do not have to think of it that much because this only applies when something triggers a casino.
Like how big your withdrawal is.

Your privacy is your's to keep. What you choose will determine your privacy and safety. There are platforms where KYC is still not required to withdraw if you are doing it in a low amount. If you go over the limit, only then you will have to complete KYC verification. Most gambling platforms are somewhat centralized, one way or another. But there are some which require no KYC. So privacy and anonymity are kept safe there.

If you choose any of them from those platforms, you can take the benefit of being anonymous. So it's up to you. What you choose will decide whether you are anonymous or not.

For someone like me, except i choose to let others know what i do, it will be very difficult for people to know what am upto, now with the use of the mobile phone, the crypto online gambling sites had been made easy such that one can easily use the privilege of gambling through our devices without going public with it while others seing us, they gave also made it a consideration in the aspect of providing anonymity to gambler using their services which you will discover that some don't require kyc on their platform.

That's not the point, and that's not the kind of anonymity we are seeking.

Privacy and anonymity are two different things. When a casino is regulated, you can only achieve privacy, as it's their responsibility to keep your information confidential and share it with their regulators only when necessary. On the other hand, with anonymity, we can enjoy complete freedom. Gambling sites that cater to gamblers have no knowledge of who we are, ensuring that our gambling activities remain unknown. This means that nobody would know we are gambling or where our money is coming from if we win. Additionally, if we were involved in illegal activities, particularly money laundering, we could operate freely without being caught.

Simply put, you misunderstand anonymity. Do you think casinos, which are designed to make as much money as possible, wouldnt notice? They have data tools that may rival a tech giant. Your every wager, click, and withdrawal is monitored.

KYC isnt just for "whales." It combats financial fraud. You think a casino cares more about a whale than you? Not right. The law and staying out of trouble matter to them. No matter how much you win, their programme treats you like statistics.

Chat about Bitcoin. A currency without a central bank. But now that online casinos are centralised? Like fitting an elephant in a tiny cooper. Power plays in the economy are intriguing. Casinos may exploit Bitcoin's decentralisation, but they're still centralised powerhouses.

The anonymity from the general public is the only advantage about anonymity we have from cryptocurrency gambling platforms for now, but we might even lose that in the future if the platforms started asking us to create our usernames with our first and last names with some random number, etc. But even after that, I believe the public can't see us gambling and if our bets are shown in the latest bets section, we can choose to hide our name there.

However, whatever the situation is, some people might not like the KYC verification and stuff, but we need to admit that cryptocurrency gambling platforms have provided us with a lot of ease when it comes to gambling if we take apart this one thing that we consider a disadvantage which isn't in my opinion.

The thing is that reputable casinos are the one who are collecting the KYC and majority of the casinos that don't collect KYC are the one who are either new to the crypto casino industry to an unknown casino. We know that playing on those casinos has some outside risks like falling into a potential scam or being involved on something that you don't want to happen. There are also gamblers who are fond of using big amounts to gamble but actually don't want to submit their KYC on casinos. Imagine that you are a celebrity with a massive cashflow and you want to do gambling but one thing is you don't want to get scammed or submit KYC for some reasons. There's no way to go, you have to choose a inconvenience to gamble.

It's good to always safe to assume it can happen to everyone else. Although they have different criteria, having less than $500 in the account is quite safe. I wouldn't even try to withdraw this much already but this is because I'm sure I will be back to bet again.

If ever I am required to submit though, I will comply and will more likely going to stay in this casino for a long time after all my data is with them already. And I don't wanna submit it to any other casino. What other criteria do they have by the way?

This doesn't seem to be true. Some of the oldest and reputable crypto casinos don't do KYC. All fiats do KYC and many fiats are crooked. Even if you give your KYC to a crypto casino they may ask for a video selfie later.

The casino knows what its users are doing because user activity in the casino is always monitored and if there is any suspicion, the casino will check it immediately. If we small gamblers play there, the casino will always monitor it and the casino can do anything to our gambling account.

Most cases happen are people who have already deposited or want to withdraw so much money that the casinos will ask them to do KYC. Some people come to the casino, create an account and deposit a lot of money, say over $1,000. That's a lot of money. If you are a casino owner, are you not suspicious of that activity? What would you do? You may want to check his background by asking him to do KYC. That's what casinos do.

People do not pay attention to the age of their new gambling accounts and immediately deposit very large sums of money, which small gamblers are unlikely to do. This problem then sparked the attention of the casino to do KYC on its new members, especially for people who have deposited a lot of money into the casino and managed to win a lot of money too. The casino will surely ask him to do KYC verification.

Indeed KYC is not just about "whales," but we are talking about people spending huge amounts of money and withdrawing huge amounts of money from casinos. Casinos are more interested in such people than in dealing with petty gamblers. But I may be wrong on this. I'm sorry ;D

That's because the old and reputable crypto casinos already make a lot money, so if there's a gambler is winning and withdraw his profit, it's just a peanut for the casino and they will not ask KYC since it just a wasting time for them.

Yeah KYC isn't only submitting personal ID, bill etc, but including self introduction video, live video, or other ridiculous thing that could satisfy them and you don't have any option to reject it.

Yup, anonymity is still there but only to our co-gamblers because as of now, most casinos doesn't require us to us our real name as a username and only the casinos knew who are we behind the screen because of the KYC that has been implemented and followed by almost all known platforms today. Still, there are ups and downs to that and we cannot blame some gamblers if they don't want the KYC because even me doesn't want it, but what can we do aside from complying to their terms if we still want to continue our activities.

The solution is simple: don't invest a large amount of money into a specific gambling site. This way, if they ask for KYC, you can easily move on and search for other gambling sites that serve gamblers without requiring KYC. In fact, many gambling sites, including regulated ones, typically do not demand KYC upfront. They usually request it once a gambler starts winning a substantial amount or when the account becomes older. Therefore, it's crucial to have numerous options available. After all, our primary goal is to ensure our gambling activities remain uninterrupted.

I am not sure if there are many places that asks video and all that. I have done KYC in many places, and the only ones I did was text ones that asks for your information so you write them, an image of my ID, back and forth, and an image of me holding a piece of paper with my face and my id on the same image. That's it, it's a typical KYC situation and they basically ask three images that's it, rest is done by them.

I have never been asked about my image any other way, or any videos neither. That seems like something that I wouldn't really know about and I think it is going to be a big of a deal when you think about live video as well, video is understandable but live video means a bit bigger, like actually be on call with them? Hell no.

Only some of the gambling sites will ask you for the kyc.If you are satisfy with the rules of that website,you can do kyc to that website.Some websites only ask you details of the KYC,other will ask your entire kyc with Vedio recordings.The KYC with video recording was mostly the trusted website,So you can use such websites if you are getting enough bonus from that gambling sites.The bonus is also important one to create one new account to the additional Gambling site.Only the website which had video recording kyc as compulsory will not reject kyc which was submitted.

I have never saw a gambling site having video verification as part of KYC. It's just common on crypto-exchanges but not on gambling sites. Even online fiat casinos, which are known to have a mandatory KYC, don't have a verification needed but only the usual like valid ID's and any others. Video verification, if it's really asked by gambling sites, is not appropriate for me.

But I agree that if we trust the site and the said site is already reputable, I don't find it risky to provide our documents if we plan to play there for long.

These days, some people are still afraid of identity theft but use real name and posting personal stuffs on the social media lol.

No KYC at L0tt0 :D

Video verification for KYC is too much, i would accept for some documents or simple fill up of information but on the sense that you are already that doing some video verification then it would be an another story.
Its true that in todays standard on which these businesses or platforms are really that needing to abide government laws and conditions on which means that they dont have no choice but to comply or else
they do know on whats next. Crypto gambling had become that popular because we do know that we arent really that needing to submit kyc or simply playing on anonymous matter on which it would really be
just that so normal.So its a matter of choice whether you would be dealing up with this or not.

If you are really that not really liking on KYC even on dealing with those known or reputable sites then it would really be just that you own choice or simply dont play at all.
Majority of sites now are really that requiring or would possibly be able to ask out some KYC if they had noticed something odd in regarding into your activity on which this is something
that could possibly happen most likely. There are really just that people who could be able to bare up those things without any issues.

Actually i dont really see any problems with this as long you arent that doing something illegal. Some are really just that mindful about their information to get leaked out on the internet
and this is why they would really be always that skeptical when it comes to this manner.

I think KYC is normal these days. It's part of the security policy of the casino; they do KYC for them to know who the player is and where they will send the withdrawal. And because a crypto casino or online casino is subject to money laundering, what I mean is that if the player is anonymous, he could waste money that could be from illegal activities. That's what the online casino is avoiding, and there are also laws that require KYC for online casinos to verify the players for their safety. I understand that you are concerned about your personal information. If you think you can't trust the online casino, then find another that is more trustworthy. But asking for video recording—I think that is sckechy; if they ask for that, I suggest they don't sign up for that casino. KYC only requires informal ID and a picture. But it depends on the casino; it's your call whether to trust it or not.

The gambling was the essential one with the kyc,because the many money laundering was happening in the gambling site.So to control the money laundering activities,the gambling site was monitor by the government.So the gambling sites was forced by the government to mandatory of the KYC to their site to use of their site.The gambling sites which ask the kyc will probably the good one,So the gambler can check the background and use such gambling sites.The gambling sites which doesn’t have the Kyc will allow the gamblers to keep their anonymity to the other gambler.To ensure this the gambling site will hid our photo in the gambling site.

Data breach and selling of our personal identities were I think the most common thing that might happen when it comes to risks in doing KYC. Legit casinos I think requires KYC in accordance with the regulation imposed by the governments around the world. Though scam casinos do this as well that is why the risk of being compromised is quiet high even with those high reputation casinos.

Casinos don't like KYC policy as well, and if it weren't enforced, most (if not all) of them wouldn't apply this to their platforms. What happens is that they have to in order to operate legally towards the authorities and regulators of different countries around the globe. There is no other way for a casino to operate these days, if they don't want to be labelled as illegal, what would put them in an unfavourable position when compared to their competitors who operate inside the rules. Money laundering, however, can still happen even with KYC policy implemented, as a money launder can use multiple accounts attached to multiples stolen IDs or IDs from straw-men connected to him, so he dilutes total sum of money laundered in smaller portions, staying under the radar of the law forces.

I know several well-known online casinos that operate with crypto and do not ask for KYC for as long as someone isn't crossing certain thresholds I guess. I believe if the amount of money someone is wagering or depositing crosses certain boundaries, it is probably in the best interest of the casino itself to have certain checks in place. But for the average gambler, which I think I am, there are still casinos allowing people to gamble from time to time and also withdraw without any issues. I'd say that anonymity is still a thing in terms of casinos if someone really wants it. But of course the risk that KYC is requested is always there if someone was relying on never getting asked for it. Better be ready to provide it if you want to get the money out in any case.

That is why we have to be careful in choosing the casino we want to use as a place to gamble. Not all casinos that we know of can be the best place to gamble, so we have to be able to ensure that the casino is the best casino for us. That is why the choice of gambling for each person will definitely be different because we have to find the right casino for us. Even though in the end the casino asks us to do KYC, we do it in the right place for us because the casino will definitely protect its customer data and ensure that the data will be safe. But if you use a scamming casino, you may experience scamming from the casino and there is a possibility that the data you send to the casino will also be used for the benefit of the casino.

Yeah, usually the legit casinos don't really want to implement KYC to all of their customers. But as they grow bigger and being recognized from where they are doing their operations, they have no choice but to comply also with the regulation of the country where they're found.
While we all agree that anonymity is being cleared in all forms because of the implementation of kyc, there is no way to stop that even if you're a high roller on them.

It is for rare cases but it's true that there are scam casinos that could also do that. We've seen some exit just happened this year for a one casino that we all thought legit and had been operating for so long. But, they came out and usually have stopped their operation and the truth is they just did an exit scam.

Firstly, we must always look at how the history of the casino has developed and whether there have been any problems that have really harmed customers in the past because when casino is trusted and can guarantee the safety of every customer then we can be sure that from the start it has had a good history and there have never been any problems anything that is detrimental to customers.

Some casinos have indeed changed KYC regulations which initially did not require it but now they will emphasize to every customer that KYC must be provided if needed, and from here we have to think more positively that one day the casino will definitely need KYC either for transactions.
So providing KYC right from the start is a wise decision.

KYC is the verification of our personal data so it is not necessary to provide it to just any casino to maintain our own security and comfort.
However who knows what is on the minds of gamblers there are still those who state that anonymity is important whereas when we carry out verification only the casino team knows our personal data, then at this point what worries should gamblers have to fear about KYC, even the casino we use has proven reliable.

To get a trusted casino, we have to do research, which may take longer because we have to make sure that the casino is really the casino we are looking for and can provide comfort in gambling. A trusted casino can provide a sense of security to all its members, not only VIP members but also members who have just joined the casino. Casinos know that only by providing security and comfort to all their members will all their members stay in their casinos and gamble for a long time. So research to find a casino is still worth doing for every gambler to find the casino they want so that when they gamble, trivial problems will not arise but can confuse the gambler. With this research, we can also find out how KYC is implemented at the casino so that we can adjust it and carry out KYC at the casino.

Currently, KYC has become something that members must do, but there may still be some who still need to implement it for all their members. Maybe if the members do not exceed the minimum limit that has been set, the casino will not ask them to do KYC so this will make it easier for small gamblers to continue gambling at the casino without having to do KYC. Even if members are asked to do KYC, they will be okay with it because the members already know that the casino they use is a trusted casino that will always provide security and comfort for them, so they will immediately do KYC if the casino asks for it.

Your privacy and anonymity are only disturbed when you start depositing or requesting very high withdrawals which makes the casinos compelled to at least get a check to know where the money is coming from or whether you are okay with them knowing you before they allow you to withdraw such a large amount from them, and if you hesitate and don't comply with their rules, they won't have a choice but to confiscate your funds or don't allow you to withdraw since you made it look suspicious for them.

So, you are right that regular gamblers who only deposit and withdraw small or medium amounts wouldn't have to worry about their privacy and anonymity even if they are using a big and reputable platform for their gambling activities because such amounts don't make that big of a difference and a criminal wouldn't play with a few hundred dollars, of course.

Exactly, things are like this, I have a friend in Spain who tells me that in order to make the transfers he did them through an exchange, but that it is no longer safe , Because he now has to Comply with the KYC requirements, so that's why Half of him is very tied up with a notion that if he does or does KYC , it is something that has to be yes or yes, but he is a person who loves his anonymity, he does not give in the least he does not agree to do any type of KYC in the casinos, he tells me that he prefers not to play, and he loves poker, but in the same way he tells me that even though he loves poker there are no good platforms so far, but in this case when he takes the measure of not letting himself be dragged into a system where anonymity no longer exists , he will not be in the system, that's how he tells me, I don't know how else I can confront this, and just like him there are many other people who also think like him, I don't Criticize him or anything because he He is right, if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to be forced.


He also talks to me about the casinos because they are decentralized, he tells me that they are not reliable and that they can cause many problems and that they are very expensive, the more there are KYC requirements, there will come a time where people will no longer want to require any type of KYC. and they will be in another type of world, where it could be something very bad for the casinos, I don't know, but it could be that now the casinos have another type of domain or another type of relevance, I have thought that even in the cloud or something can be done in the metaverses, something like this can be devised so that the caisno continue living or surviving, of course this is mere speculation and it's just what I can think of, I don't want to say that things are like that, but basically what can be summarized here Based on this, there will come a time where the most valued by people will not be the casinos with the best promotions or contests, but those that provide privacy again, and that may be sooner than ever.

It depends on the type of player you are.
If your intention is just to play for entertainment, without the need to make a profit and withdraw large amounts of money, then it is still possible to use several crypto online casinos without the need to go through the KYC process.
Obviously, this no KYC requirement also depends on the amount of bets you make, if your betting volume is large, the casino may require KYC from you before making a new deposit.

In any case, I agree with you... anonymity was once one of the great benefits of these casinos, but the fault lies not with the sites, but with the governments that intensified their supervision.

Especially in countries where gambling is illegal, people should keep their identity as secret as possible before gambling. Whenever gambling is banned in a country and people from that country are gambling and their gambling is exposed but the administration brings them under the law. In this case, if the account is verified with his personal information, then a gambler may be subjected to various harassments. It is better not to share your personal information on all these gambling sites. The main objective of our gambling is to make money so we have to focus on making money. All these gambling sites are out to make money. It would be wise not to share your personal information.

Bear in mind that even if our main intention is just for entertainment, but there is a chance that we may win big amount of money when the big luck comes. Since most crypto related services are being regulated, there will always be chance for customers to be asked for KYC. KYC is also not only about large withdrawal, but there are also some other cases that may make the sites need to do it. Customers has no more choices except to accept the terms or leave the services.

Anonymity and privacy are so far away from all gambling platforms, they are regulated and registered, they operate under the law of the country, this shows how centralized they are so where is the privacy? If anyone thinks that whatever they doing on any casino is secured they are kidding themselves, everything they do is been monitored, why did they need KYc from all their customers? It's been asked of them by the laws and they have no choice but to comply..

It makes me laugh whenever I see some new casinos naming themselves decentralized or privacy gambling, it's all lies, the only way a casino can have anonymous features is if they are operating illegally and for how long can they do this? They also need to stay off the radar of the law and do everything to remain less popular or they won't last long.

As for those gamblers using such platforms I want them to know that they aren't safe either, if you keep using such platform and something happen all of a sudden you will lost everything you have on the casino immediately, and since they aren't regulated there is no way to get anything back even if you have all the money to do so, even such casino can decide to exit scam on you, because they are not even registered.

Of course, research is always carried out when choosing a casino that is trusted and can provide more comfort and security to all existing customers without exception.
We can also see the response of gamblers in community about the casino whether it has positive feedback and large loyal customers or not because truly reliable casino definitely has positive feedback in the community and has large loyal customers.
When it comes to KYC, in fact almost all casinos will ask for KYC but they use different methods, some ask when it is really needed for large transactions, some ask for KYC from the start of registration.
The only thing that cannot be accepted is casino that states non-KYC but if the gambler wins big they ask for KYC as withdrawal condition.

Yes, it is true that KYC has almost become something that every gambler must provide and for some time now KYC has become topic of conversation and debate in the cryptocurrency gambling industry.
Actually, there is no need to be afraid because on the exchange platform or crypto market exchange, each account is also asked for personal identity verification.
So it can be concluded that KYC is not something that needs to be avoided.

This makes online gambling and then using a fully decentralized crypto, or a mixer an advantage. It only becomes a problem if all them are also banned but if you are that willing, I think there are still ways that you can do in order to by pass the applied restrictions by your government and ISP provider. If gambling in our country is fully legal, it may be okay now to verify our gambling accounts because it also have some advantages but many of us don't recommend it for some reasons.

For you maybe and to some, that was your objective to play gambling (for the sole purpose of making money) but I believe the majority are only playing to get entertained. It would be better if you guys can change your approach towards gambling and also play it that way.

Hate it or not, there's nothing we can do when things turns out to be decentralized wayback since there's no KYC but we do have today on which there would really be those notable changes and application of possible KYC on which its not really that shocking because these platforms are really that generating huge money on which means that it would really be just that normal that government would really be having an eye on them on which it is really just that normal that they would really be having that kind of regulation on which they would really be needing to abide some laws for them to operate. We do know that there's such thing about having license and the community would really be having that positive impression towards it and this is why business would really be going into that path.

Somewhat most of them doesnt really ask out KYC completely or something compulsory on which means that when you do able to hit a particular threshold that they had set on
then this is the time that you would really be complying or having that verification but if you are just that a regular gambler who dont gamble much
then i dont really see this thing to be an issue or a huge problem. It is really just that it do become that very common nowadays where verification is primarily asked.

To be honest, if a government bans betting or gambling we all know that won't stop the activity to happen in a societal level. Centralized governments tend to underestimate the reach gambling and betting can have in these modern days when everyone has a smarthphone with them.
If I lived in a country where I would not be able to legally bet in sports, I would only need to have a Telegram account where people would gather to bet and give their Bitcoin or Monero to a trustworthy escrow, the rest is history. Telegram is very unlikely to crack down on those groups, because they are focused on the freedom of their users and gambling is not against the Terms of service of this application.

I can recognize there are certain religious and political reasons for a government to ban gambling and betting, however it may just translate on them missing out the chance to apply fair taxes to casinos or lucky individuals.

Sometimes the verification Often causes us as Players to reveal our identity, which is not very pleasant, because we are already accustomed to the casinos that are of fiat money origin and we have to leave a mandatory KYC, in a broker or exchange where basically we have to do things based on an indeticifcion, that is, if 1000usd is moved in bitcoin because that money was Moved by XXXX, whose last name is XXX who lives in X, and well this is very bad in terms that yes If the person suffers an attack, they can leave and take all the data with the people's records, this is something that turns out to be quite Strong.

When there are players who are whales Where they manage large amounts of money, it is not only there in that casino where the money is collected, it can be Other Casinos that manage money, and things when they try to do everything better, well, little is going little by little, because a person who is being and actively playing in the casino is unlikely to come back again, of course all this is what KYC can cause because anonymity no longer exists, so there are Few words when it comes to being So it is very likely that people no longer feel attracted to that casino, but to Another where they can Provide more anonymity or more privacy, and that is difficult to track, but now it is so difficult now the game of everything bank and every sector is that you have to know the client, they don't want to do business with people who don't Know who they are, that's why there are currently decentralized caisnso that can generate money, but it has many disadvantages and I think that the current lack of all of them is that the players cannot do things freely, because they do not have to pay for each move, so it is like more spending than being in a centralized casino, where much more security and trust is offered, apart from the trust and good reputation that be had.

It would be very irresponsible of the government to ban gambling for any reason, everyone should be free to do whatever they want to do. The only means that is acceptable is for them to create awareness of the good and bad of gambling and let people make their choices. As for morality, politics or religion, governments are merely overbearing in this regard and those states that banned gambling, especially for religious reasons are only extremists, they are bigots that just want others to do what they believe is the right thing. But to me, it's an infringement on the rights of others who wish to gamble without dupping anyone. But it's unfortunate that it's these bigots that hold the helms of power, there is nothing most of the victims could do.

In addition to your Telegram narration, a mere changing of IP through VPN would do as crypto's privacy completes the rest. Going through telegram groups could still be cumbersome for many people, but by using a VPN, every situation would be solved if a particular country or region banned gambling. This is what I do in countries where crypto is not allowed or trading with a certain broker/exchange is disallowed.

It’s not just happening on crypto gambling platforms but the cryptocurrency ecosystem generally. Haven’t you seen what these centralized exchanges are doing? I don’t know why a crypto gambling site will require KYC, but I’m guessing that it’s to check if the user is up to the proper age (I don’t have a stance on it, just thinking out loud). I have gambled on crypto gambling platforms but I have never submitted my KYC for such, at lease none that I remember. My heart skips a beat when any platform asks me for KYC because I tend to wonder what they want to do with so much information about me.

From what I know, casinos and crypto exchanges must do KYC to combat money laundering, when people go through KYC they hand over documents such as ID, proof of residence and when they deposit a lot of money the casinos ask for proof of the funds, precisely so that they can confirm that that much money is coming from a clean source. The problem with this is that the governments that issue the license, which in the casino I am talking about in Curacao, as it is the country in which more than 70% of crypto casinos have a Curacao license, should note that clearly the government of Curacao does not carry out any inspections in any casino for know if the casino is complying with the laws and if it is also treating customers well

There are hundreds of cases of scam casinos, which stole people's money and disappeared and people reported these sad events to the license provider, but the license provider did nothing, which leads me to question whether the Curacao government asks for real documents of casino owners when it comes to dealing with casino licenses, because for a scammer who has a Curacao license not to be afraid of running a casino with the clear intention of stealing money and disappearing, and because this same scammer is confident that he does not have his true identity . which makes me question whether kyc is important, in my opinion governments should not force casinos to ask for kyc since the cryptocurrency market has a lack of laws in many countries

Anonymity is still an advantage offered by cryptocurrencies on crypto gambling platforms. It's just that on many crypto casino platforms they impose KYC on their users to be able to complete regulatory requirements in several countries, so inevitably gambling platforms have to comply with this so they can operate. However, there are still crypto gambling platforms that do not impose KYC on their users, because they are not bound by regulators and have no obligation to require KYC to their users, so users remain anonymous when using crypto.

Doing research is a must for gamblers to find the casino they want so that they can get comfort and security in gambling and won't have any problems. By reading the reviews given by many gamblers or members on this forum, we can find out which casinos they have used so that we can have a list of casinos that we will research. From the results of this research, maybe we can get 2 or more casinos that we can try for gambling and see the results so that we can have a list of our favourite casinos. It is true that KYC now tends to be implemented by many casinos, but only trusted casinos will be able to maintain the confidentiality of all their members properly. They will satisfy their customers and will immediately complete the verification process without taking a long time unless they need to carry out further checks.

In the future, KYC will become an obligation for gamblers, whether they are small gamblers or big gamblers. So we can only be prepared for all possibilities and still look for casinos that are flexible in implementing KYC towards their customers. We also have to be careful in carrying out verification and only do it at trusted exchanges or casinos that can protect the identity of their customers well.

when everyoneis already in the database of government, exchanges and casinos i think there will be no need for KYC anymore because once a user login, the platform will automatically scan the wallet and find the match from the databases of Skynet.

as for now casinos are asking KYC. after few years of fighting yourself not to submit KYC, the addiction wins and finally you just don't mind at all  ;D

And that is the thing we should refrain from participating in and prevent it from happening. A wallet connected with our own identity, so any platform would recognize us, is authoritarian by nature. We should not exchange many rights for the sake of addiction. It is not a matter of people not minding about excessive KYC/AML policy but rather their limited awareness and comprehension that make those things seem like small things.

Now I get that regulation set in place to prevent money laundering or such kinds of things that utilize casinos. It is a good reason. Nevertheless, complete control of where a wallet connects to an identity database is truly a terrifying future.

Even so, I still can't really understand the thoughts of those gamblers who really object and don't want KYC, I know that anonymity is also quite important to maintain the security of every gambler but on the other hand KYC is no less important for every casino that asks for it as long as indeed from the start it has been listed for KYC if necessary.
Gamblers say that their identity is very valuable and privacy is every individual right, but it is true that trusted casinos with very good reputation are definitely able to protect all their customer data.
When we gamble for fun and to be good gamblers, we should not refuse KYC and KYC is also one of the requirements in several licenses used by the casino itself.

Yes, as time goes by KYC will become something that every gambler must fulfill so that we will not be able to refuse it.
KYC is one part of making it easier for every casino when something bad happens or resolves problems that occur to their customers and here KYC will also be mutually beneficial for both parties, the customer and the casino.

The main reason crypto gambling has gained popularity for its anonymity. But with the change of time, the government of every country has become active and made KYC mandatory since those who started using this platform to do financial irregularities. Now we all know about the advantages and disadvantages of KYC. But I think that if the feature that makes people interested to gamble on this crypto but if the main feature disappears then it has the potential to lose people's confidence. I think KYC should not be forced. If the gambler does not have any suspicious behavior or high volume of transactions, it is best to keep it anonymous.

There is no need to upgrade the Internet records because we must admit that there are still
many crypto casino that seeks no KYC meaning you will still have your own safeties and privacy, while majority are
asking for KYC plenty of casino that is popularized being Decentralized is still in active.so I think let it be mate
and talk about that when crypto casino becomes completely KYCed and will not operate or accept players with
no details given from account creations.

You are right and all the centralized platforms have eliminated the advantage of using crypto to be anonymous, because not only gambling sites but exchanges have already done it before the casinos started it, and players have no choice but to accept this and if they really object they can look for another casino which does not require KYC but usually the types of games will be very limited, such as one of the well-known casinos on this forum and now it has started implementing KYC.
There is a lot of information on the internet that has not been updated but because we have experienced this, it is no longer important, but not for those who don't understand it because they don't get the real information that most casinos currently require KYC and that is because of the license that the casino uses.

If the casino uses only high volume in transaction to determine if they'll request for KYC, alot of illegal individuals will get away with crimes because they can split their transaction into smaller amounts that will not make the casino suspicious and run as many transaction as they want and get away with their crimes. KYC helps casino to keep eyes on their customers so they can identify them easier when the authorities need to for their investigation. And since the individuals knows the casino has their identity, they'll be careful not to use the casino for illegal activities.

KYC has its advantage and disadvantage but it's not benefiting any individuals that's using cryptocurency to gamble because our purpose for using cryptocurrency is because of its animosity but when KYC is been implemented it takes away that. We have some casino and sportsbooks that don't demand high KYC but just regular ones and we can be using them to help prevent our information from getting into the wrong hands.

I agree with you if kyc is mandatory many casinos will lose their existence. Most of the gamblers prefer to keep their information secret for gambling online. Also gamblers don't like kyc because there are more chances of scamming through kyc. KYC is avoided for crypto exchanges and casinos because of privacy and data breach concerns since KYC exchanges collect and store sensitive personal information.

We're here for the thrill and the privacy, but KYC stops us in our tracks. In other words, "Come for the fun, stay for the paperwork." But lets not get rid of the good thing along with the bad. KYC has its place, like a bouncer at the club door who keeps bad people out. Still, does it need to be so direct? Why not make KYC like a good game referee: there, but not in the way of the play? Casinos could use KYC that is less intrusive and focuses on behavior instead of name. Find the bad guys without making everyone else feel like they have to stand in line. Do you agree that we should keep the game fair and fun? Lets praise the companies that get this right. And finally, rolling dice should be about rolling the dice, not telling your life story.

There are still a few of legit gambling sites that don't require KYC and they're getting rarer. Mostly as they require to follow the laws of land they are based on.
A few more that enforce KYC only when flagged by the authorities but just that clause on their terms could be misussed anytime. So, ones seeking pure anonymity would avoid them.
The people who are really concerned about their privacy gambling would rather not gamble than provide their KYC. No any chance of playing nude baccarat online anonymously.
At present there are dapps gambling that has no control over who bet and the results are enforced by the smart contracts. They are growing but are less popular and their future still uncertain.

Yes, we will not understand the thoughts of these gamblers because they have their own reasons. Where if someone objects to doing KYC it is because they feel that they are just having fun at gambling so there is no need to do KYC. But some other gamblers may feel that it is their privacy that they have to protect so they don't need to do KYC. But casinos also have the right to ask their customers to do KYC because casinos don't want to run into problems with regulators who oversee their casino business. However, casinos have started to ask gamblers to carry out KYC, although there are still casinos that are flexible in implementing it. But in the future, when regulators will increasingly tighten their supervision of casinos, we must comply if we still want to gamble at these casinos.

It's like we do KYC on the exchange and we have to follow it. And if the casino is a trusted casino, gamblers don't need to worry about the security of the data that has been handed over to the casino. They can do KYC with peace of mind and hand it over to the casino and the casino will definitely take good care of it. And in the future, anonymity will no longer exist when it comes to customers.

We as gamers and possibly as people who are very active with the Bitcoin market, know that when it comes to doing KYC, we are not friends, nor do we agree with the good actions that could represent complying with a "KYC", in my case Only I have recommended to people that when they are in a situation they almost do not comply with this requirement in those sites that feel safe in doing so, in my case there are few, stake.com, bitcasino.io, among others that are not many, but because? because I have seen that they are quite nice casinos and that they give enough confidence to deposit all this, so in view of these things, I do not agree that new casinos require KYC from the outset, because that is something that does not suit me I respect the decision of others but that is not the case for me, and it is not that I am against companies that come and want to make their business known, no, but it is my way of seeing things, I have seen many cases that They become a drama because of the KYC, especially for those who are very demanding when it comes to doing things like, for example, being in a casino where they win, and then you can't make a withdrawal because they have to comply with the KYC.

Many cases that have been presented like this make players upset. In your casino there must be many people who are waiting to review the KYC so that it does not take too long, why don't they ask for the KYC at the time of depositing? Ah, because if they don't verify them quickly then they don't make a deposit, that's what should be done, now with this new trend of KYC things should be done like this, in a transparent way, but what casino will do it? not allow a deposit until you have verified a KYC? So far no one has done it, nor do they plan to do it with the help of the dragon spheres now, but I know that in the future the players will no longer care, they will only look for a casino that offers them security, anonymity and privacy.

Many casinos have used KYC verification as a medium to deprived gamblers from getting what they deserve. It happens too on exchanges especially for the centralized exchanges limiting some functions and benefits to those that have done KYC verification. This is what many casinos too are using to force gamblers to complete their verification so that they can have access to who they are and if the opportunity comes it track them, it will be very easy without stress. We should be aware of the risk it could pose on us if we keep doing KYC verifications on different casinos and exchanges.

Well Said, there will be no need for KYC or keeping tabs on the gambler when their account is not characterized with certain level of irregularities, there will be no need of trying to get the identity of the gambler as the gambler may not be comfortable with such and may choose to leave the platform for another,

But if an account have been characterized with volumes which were not won and irregularities they the casino could request to know this customer and make it mandatory for such customer to get their KYC done. That way customers will feel safer and better gambling with such sites because if they are scared of their information been out there they could possibly leave for the sake of privacy.

Their was the limitation of levels in the gambling site,most of the gambling site will ask you to complete upto level 2 to withdrew the funds from the gambling site.The level 1 will be your name and number verification along with the mail.The level 2 will be verify your address proof with the selfie of the kyc.So the gambler who using the gambling site use the limited money to deposit and withdrew funds from the gambling site.This was considered to be the preventive measure to avoid of the money laundering people into their gambling site.But if the gambling site will be the real and crypto based means,your identity will be taken by the gambling site.But you are prevented by the gambling site to ay the taxes for the withdrew of the big money form the gambling site by withdrew in terms of the cryptocurrency.

It’s the case unfortunately, But at the same time KYC process is the only way for casinos to keep their business and agree to license rules, requiring a KYC process I believe is important for casinos to recognize that person is not blacklisted or even a terrorist doing money laundering, there is no other way to know if the person behind the screen is not a child under 18 years stealing his dad’s wallet to gamble.
Although, right now I’m using a casino for over a year and I have many transactions of deposits and withdrawals but never been asked to pass the process of verifying my personal information. Also, I won’t have an issue or disagree when they ask about them since I know myself and never caused issues before.

Anonymity has multiple meanings, in casinos you identity isn’t an issue but you age and if you’re not in the black list.

As much as we may not like it, the days in which people could gamble anonymously on this market are slowly coming to an end, regulators are putting more and more attention to this market and they want to know the identity of the person behind each transaction that is made, and while this may not be realistic I think that at some point they will come close to achieve their goal, so casinos are simply doing what they are told, as if they refused they will lose their license and then the owner of the casino could get in huge trouble by running a casino without a license.

I agree that anonymity is still offered by cryptocurrencies when using them on gambling platforms that accept crypto. It’s now up to you to decide if you want to reveal who you are by doing KYC with them. The choice is still ours to make if we want to do KYC whether it’s mandated or not by the casino. Cryptocurrencies has done its part and helped you deposit and bet anonymously. We’re the ones who went ahead to willingly share our information with the casino. Cryptocurrency still helps keeps gamblers anonymous on sites platforms where KYC isn’t required.

with the evolving requirements these days, most reputable casinos or bookies are now requiring kyc from their players. but i do agree, it is still up to the player if he will submit his credentials or not, however, be ready for possible consequences if the site is licensed and is asking your kyc details before withdrawal. otherwise, look for casinos which are not strict but be ready for worst case scenarios like freezing of your funds and the likes.

Actually, gamblers can still gamble on crypto casino platforms without doing KYC. As long as they can use small amounts of money to bet or to withdraw winnings that are not too large, they will not be asked to do KYC. But the problem is that gamblers always try to win and bet big money where they also deposit a lot of money to gamble. That's where casinos ask them to do KYC and most gamblers are reluctant to do it. But now the situation has changed drastically where gamblers have to do KYC because casinos want to make sure everything runs smoothly and is fine. Gamblers should make sure they do KYC at a trusted casino so that there will be no problems in the future.

As online gambling regulations continue to evolve, KYC procedures have become increasingly stringent for reputable casinos and bookies. These measures are designed to prevent money laundering, fraud, and underage gambling, and they are essential for ensuring the safety and integrity of the online gambling industry.

While players may have the choice to not provide their KYC details, they should be aware of the potential consequences. Licensed casinos and bookies may restrict withdrawals, limit account access, or even close accounts altogether for players who fail to comply with KYC requirements. Opting for unlicensed or non-strict casinos may expose players to a greater risks. These casinos may not have the same safeguards in place to protect player funds and information.

            -   Until now, there have been some casinos that have implemented no KYC where you can also withdraw without doing it.
and there are other casino's I knew doing this, in fact even up to now I am still playing it there every time I want to gamble.

But in this era, most of the casinos have already implemented KYC for their gamblers. And most gamblers don't care about it, as long as the important thing is that if they win big, even if it's my kyc, that's fine with them. That's what the majority of gamblers do now.

That's true because as long as we can withdraw money that is not too large, the casino will process it automatically, and it will take a little while for it to arrive in our wallet. But if you deposit a lot of money and win a lot of money, then withdraw it, which may exceed the minimum limit for a member who does not require KYC, the casino may ask you to do KYC. Maybe the casino wants to know who the person behind the gambling account is who has won a lot of money and wants to withdraw all the winnings, so the casino asks him to do KYC. But this is what he doesn't like because he has to hand over his personal documents to the casino. In fact, if it is a trusted casino, it is okay to submit the documents to do KYC because the casino will definitely take care of the documents well. But it all comes down to each gambler which one they choose.

Sometimes being rich or having tons of money would be having these kind of problems and considering that it do involved huge sums then there would really be no exemption when it comes to verification.
We know that government is really that strict when it comes to this matter on which it would be normal that they would really be having this kind of approach. Well, its not something bad because
money laundering is never been good and since these platforms or companies are involved with huge revenue or simply talking about big ongoing and outgoing transactions so its just normal
that they would really be keeping an eye to them.

As these companies does have some license then it would be normal that they will really be complying on whats been asked or mandated or else then they can operate.
For us small time gamblers, then this kind of rule or terms wont really be that much pain in the ass but if you are someone who have tons of money
then expect something like this on where verify this and verify on that.

It seems to be all about making quick gains and getting your money back quickly. This quick pleasure makes bettors feel like they're close to a winning streak. When the stakes are high, things change. KYC is a surprising wake-up call in a world full of ways to escape reality. It's strange that bettors like unclear rules in games but not when it comes to their personal information.

In addition, the gambling is to blame. Along with fun things, they store money and private information. Enforcing KYC strikes a mix between following the rules and making customers happy. The gambler may say that their privacy is being invaded, but they know that this makes their gains legal. This small nod to the rules of the game isn't just about the game. Isn't this mix of being smart and having fun, of getting quick results and going through long, complicated processes, a good example of how we seek both excitement and safety?

If a casino uses kyc, the advantage of using cryptocurrencies is lost in terms of anonymity, as it becomes very easy to trace all transactions and identify the real owner of the cryptocurrency. Therefore, casinos using only cryptocurrencies and introducing kyc destroy the idea of cryptocurrencies

In fact, people who have a lot of money can hide it from others and not show many people that they have a lot of money. And they are used to gambling with a lot of money, so they want to withdraw their winnings, the casino asks them to do KYC. Some of them are aware that KYC has now become mandatory, especially for those who gamble with a lot of money. Casinos do not want to experience any problems with regulators, so they have started to tighten their regulations in accordance with regulator regulations.

We, as small gamblers, can only comply with the requirements set by the casino so that we can avoid any problems. But actually, we as gamblers can look for crypto casinos that are not too involved in doing KYC so that those of us who only gamble with small amounts of money will not be asked to do KYC. Moreover, we, as small gamblers, rarely get big wins, and the winnings we get will be within the gambler's minimum withdrawal limit.

There are no quick profits from gambling because it will be difficult for us to win and may cause us to lose more often. The gambler must be aware that if they get a big win, they must comply with the rules implemented by the casino, so they must be willing to do KYC. If they don't want to, they can look for another casino, but that obviously takes more time because most casinos now enforce KYC on their gamblers.

Gambling cannot be blamed because we are the ones who should be blamed. After all, gambling does not force us to gamble, but we are the ones who really want to gamble just because we are curious about what gambling is like. We don't want to do KYC because we think this is just gambling for fun, so we don't need to submit any documents to the casino. But the situation has now changed from a few years ago because many people use crypto for illegal things, and casinos don't want to get into trouble for illegal things. If gamblers don't want to do KYC, they should not gamble because they want to protect their personal documents, and that is the choice we have.

Well, there's no such thing about lasting up like forever or something that cant be changed. We do know that government wont really be stopping until they would really be able to have a good grasps
into those things which cant be controlled including crypto of course.Its true that the main reason on why gambling industry in crypto did boom up due into that anonymity but just as anticipated then
sooner on later years where these companies did really ends up on having those kind of following some regulation. Whereas, it would really be that mainly why demand did increase up due to that
but now we do have those changes and there's nothing we can do. So far we do have that still those casinos existing that wont requiring KYC not until on the time that you do hit up
the threshold.  :D

But little do people know that they can as well make use of a gambling casino that does not requires for kyc only by them making enquiry on that, if we really care about our privacy and being well deeply rooted in cryptocurrency, then we should know that our gambling account shouldn't have anything in common to do with the main wallet we are using for our crypto, in other for them not to trace us right from the wallet address to the gambling profile information when our address is being tracked down.