Title: Unethical Practices: Post by: SweetL0u on August 26, 2023, 08:13:15 PM Hi
Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Wiwo on August 26, 2023, 08:19:44 PM Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious, of course there have been some reports of bit involvement in the game process and the user overall experiences have been manipulated using some special tools like bots that you mentioned but none have been proven with any form of evidence.
So Megaplay will still remain innocent of this allegation until proven guilty and from the look of things, your claims lack that evidence to prove them guilty, but it is a good thing that we are discussing this so that gamblers will be aware of such possibilities. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: CryptSafe on August 26, 2023, 09:49:51 PM At first this is not the right place for this topic. It would be nice you move it to reputation board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0) for further discussions.
OP I doubt the credibility and reliability of your claims and how true it is. I checked your profile to see for myself but it's unfortunate and my thoughts were correct. You just cannot put up this claims of yours without any evidence to back it up. Nobody would give you attention coupled with the fact that your presence here is questionable. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Saint-loup on August 26, 2023, 09:55:17 PM Unfortunately you don't explain how bots and fake accounts could "distorts the true odds of winning but also fosters an environment where users are unknowingly competing against automated entities designed to tilt the odds in favor of the casino"?
Which games there could have their odds distorted by other players precisely? Could you name them? Because it could only happen with games using pools or for contests/tournaments. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on August 26, 2023, 11:13:07 PM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: coin-investor on August 26, 2023, 11:32:58 PM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Alleged Casino Link: Megaplay.io If you don't have pieces of evidence and you are using vague or unclear words then don't post it until such time that you have enough pieces of evidence to back up your allegations, I would not be surprised if the casino you've mentioned go down here and complaint that you are harassing or even extorting them. Casino businesses thrive on trust so if you're going to accuse one casino you should show evidence there's no room for unfounded allegations here because it could ruin one's business if you post things that are just hearsays. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: SweetL0u on August 26, 2023, 11:36:55 PM https://i.ibb.co/Ht8MkGw/Capture-d-cran-2023-08-26-193404.png (https://ibb.co/ByM7STW)
Let's watch together. 8 days left for those prizes, having played there enough to know what's going on there. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: yahoo62278 on August 27, 2023, 12:00:52 AM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. I think you need to definitely provide proof if you plan on making allegations like this. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Ever-young on August 27, 2023, 12:27:51 AM Your allegation seems like just some mere assumption which is coming from an angry gambler who always lose to a game and is looking for a way to justify and convince him self that it’s nearly impossible to win a game on the casino they played since there are bot installed by the casino owners to manipulate the game result.
@Op you forget the fact that this games first is base on luck and secondly in contest like your above image, the higher your earned point or wager amount (depending on what’s needed to calculate the game) the higher the chance of you winning the game, I don’t see any boy at work here unless you have solid evidence to back up your claims I stand to disagree with them. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Nrcewker on August 27, 2023, 02:28:16 AM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. If you don’t have solid proof then why are you accusing a casino. This is just wasting the forum member’s time. If you have a personal opinion that the site using any advantage for these type of contests, then just avoid the site. If you want to make the normal people aware about it, then provide sufficient proofs. Then only someone will take stand for you. Without any proofs or evidences, it seems like you are only showing your personal hatred towards the site. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Wexnident on August 27, 2023, 04:19:17 AM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Should probably put this above, just so you know, people wouldn't need to read your needlessly long post about an "accusation" that has, well, nothing except your word for it. In addition, I don't think fake accounts can do anything to players? The most damage it could do would be manipulation of the leaderboards of say highest wins/highest betters etc. since they can change that at will. Personal experience with games like dice, crash, etc. I don't think a game exists where the odds are affected by the number of players that bet, at least I haven't tried one (or I'm just that dumb to not remember about it). Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: piebeyb on August 27, 2023, 07:19:49 AM I've read your long story in this thread, but it's a little strange when at the end of your post, that "These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation." , that looks like accusing without evidence like what friends are saying here, after all why would you think like that without any proof and really valid from the gambling site you mean.
I might be ashamed to be you, wrote a lot of long stories in this thread but in the end I'm not giving any proof it's just a guess , think positive because we don't know there are some real users there who spent money and time to achieve that, so there's no need accusing that it's a fake account and some kind of bot. how can people use bots to lose their money to win contests ??? Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Solosanz on August 27, 2023, 07:55:41 AM It's only your own assumption and the bad thing is, you have no way to know if the casino is involved with bots or fake accounts.
Even you're keep watching the leaderboard everyday, but during near end of the competition there's will a new account came up with huge wager, you can't blame them because the casino can say the account is a high roller. As long as you're not working behind the casino, you will not know about the truth. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Bitinity on August 27, 2023, 08:26:04 AM It's only your own assumption and the bad thing is, you have no way to know if the casino is involved with bots or fake accounts. Even you're keep watching the leaderboard everyday, but during near end of the competition there's will a new account came up with huge wager, you can't blame them because the casino can say the account is a high roller. As long as you're not working behind the casino, you will not know about the truth. This kind of allegation almost happen in all casinos where there is wagering competition. Even in reputable site like Stake, there were some people who think that Stake use fake accounts or their own accounts to take the top prizes of the wagering competition. Similar as this one, the allegation is baseless without any solid evidence because most cases will always be based on feeling and assumption. Imo, in this kind of thing, what we need to do as players is to trust the casino because like what you said that only person who are behind the casino who know the truth. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Coin_trader on August 27, 2023, 08:27:16 AM All this allegations and accusations is backed by nothing and just pure conspiracy. The content seems like you are just butthurt participant of the casino tournament and can’t win against other players that you are accusing of bots.
All casinos has silent whales that plays without using the chatbox. I’m not sure what’s your reference for accusing them as using bot players but atleast provide an insight on how you come up with this idea. Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. This part makes this whole thread no value at all. Keep digging. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: aioc on August 27, 2023, 09:16:47 AM It's better for OP to lock this thread if he cannot verify and post pieces of evidence of his allegations, if you still digging into your allegation it should be better if you have strong pieces of evidence, what you posted backfires on your intention of trying to ruin the casino or even extort them later, I hope I'm wrong your best action is to lock this thread until you have proven that they have bots and fake accounts, which is hard to prove unless someone inside spill it to you.
Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: dothebeats on August 27, 2023, 10:10:15 AM It would be interesting to know the details on how you came up with these allegations. I know that there are casinos that are using other accounts for customer engagements, but not in directly altering the outcome of the games that the people are playing. If this is true, then it's a serious matter since they are straight up conning their players off of their money.
It's easy to say that X casino is using bots and alt accounts to lessen the chances of other people winning, but substantial evidence needs to be presented before the said casino is judged by the whole community without facts. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: mirakal on August 27, 2023, 10:21:12 AM Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious, of course there have been some reports of bit involvement in the game process and the user overall experiences have been manipulated using some special tools like bots that you mentioned but none have been proven with any form of evidence. True. All allegations will be pending and on hold until genuine proofs and evidences come out. On the eyes of many gamblers, it looks like you are ruining the reputation of this casino without providing clear evidences at first. And you can’t blame them for that. However, if these said allegations are true, at least you have created an early awareness not just for regular players in this casino, but as well as those who plan to start gambling in Megaplay. So Megaplay will still remain innocent of this allegation until proven guilty and from the look of things, your claims lack that evidence to prove them guilty, but it is a good thing that we are discussing this so that gamblers will be aware of such possibilities. For now, time is the only ultimate teller. Lets just wait for the real investigations to start so we can also make final judgement on this certain casino if this one is guilty or not. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Saint-loup on August 27, 2023, 07:40:23 PM https://i.ibb.co/Ht8MkGw/Capture-d-cran-2023-08-26-193404.png (https://ibb.co/ByM7STW) That's a rather common concern for many casinos especially those paying streamers and filling their balances with fun money because they can easily wager huge amounts and taking the best reward spots of the tournaments, in addition administrators could be able to play with fake balances if they are dishonest but unfortunately there are no way to check if all users are real or not in this kind of contests.Let's watch together. 8 days left for those prizes, having played there enough to know what's going on there. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: iv4n on August 27, 2023, 07:55:45 PM Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious... It would be quite difficult to collect valid evidence for these claims... unless it is inside information. If someone from the team working at the casino decides to speak about such manipulations and gather some "real evidence" I will probably pay more attention to that. But just "words" from someone who didn't make it in a wager race don't have any value. I busted my bankroll too many times in trying to compete in different races. We play hard and we risk a lot and sometimes we simply lose. It's hard to compete with a limited bankroll and to catch up with high rollers... I am not taking any sides here, I am just saying if you think there is something suspicious about the place where you gamble move to another place. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Wiwo on August 27, 2023, 08:03:37 PM Without any evidence, no one is going to take this allegation seriously... It would be quite difficult to collect valid evidence for these claims... unless it is inside information. If someone from the team working at the casino decides to speak about such manipulations and gather some "real evidence" I will probably pay more attention to that. But just "words" from someone who didn't make it in a wager race don't have any value. I busted my bankroll too many times in trying to compete in different races. We play hard and we risk a lot and sometimes we simply lose. It's hard to compete with a limited bankroll and to catch up with high rollers... I am not taking any sides here, I am just saying if you think there is something suspicious about the place where you gamble move to another place. So the case is in both ways, but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: BitcoinPanther on August 27, 2023, 09:00:23 PM Quote Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. This states it all. How can you @OP convince people to believe what you are stating when the allegations are unverified. You could have at least give one or two strong supporting documents for the allegation. This looks like a witch hunt when all the accusation is like because someone thought so. If your base @OP is the ranking of leaderboard then I also think that it is not enough. As @yahoo62278 stated, any whale player can turn the ranking upside down in just an hour if they intend to win the amount. We have seen this on races in big casino where whales are competing against each other. Not because these player name are hidden, the casino is cheating their players. I myself had my username hidden on different casinos that I played. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on August 27, 2023, 10:58:27 PM Let's watch together. 8 days left for those prizes, having played there enough to know what's going on there. This still doesn't prove your unsubstantiated claims of bot and fake accounts involvement in contests 🤷Looking at your trust feedback, I can see you are up to something fishy in this forum
Let me quote what sujonali1819 said about you somewhere. Sorry for bumping this thread. OP yes, the user is not trusted anymore. There are several records where the user tried to scam blackjack.fun team. A few months or years ago The user attempted to cheat RealWinner(blackjack.fun player). Lately, you are also a victim. After reviewing his profile I can see he is asking for some loans several times here in this forum. I am pretty sure the user will not pay if he gets a big loan. So it's a red signal for all the members, basically for the users who are involved in Lending. Note: OP you should include his profile bitcointalk profile link in the main post. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: khaled0111 on August 27, 2023, 11:34:40 PM The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims. You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions? Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: paxmao on August 28, 2023, 12:21:13 AM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?
Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: yahoo62278 on August 28, 2023, 12:41:39 AM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not? Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: goldkingcoiner on August 28, 2023, 11:29:21 AM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. This might just be some immature kid who is not worth paying attention to. That's the problem with the internet, you never know who you are talking to. Making such allegations can be quite harmful to a business and since they are unproven, OP can get into some really hot water for his/her words. Some people only learn when they get served a court date for slandering the reputation of a legitimate business for no reason. So again, the topic was made by either some immature child or a disgruntled sore loser who felt the need to smear the reputation of the casino because they could not handle gambling. I doubt we will hear from him again, seeing as its a random newbie. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: AbuBhakar on August 28, 2023, 04:21:16 PM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not? This is correct. Some user is using the tournament reward as priority for profit and just play on games with minimal house edge to farm wager safely without a significant losses that’s why they relying too much on tournament to recover the small loss from wager farming and bag profit. This user is active on Blackjack.fun tournament before and now he move on different casino to aim for other tournament reward. This is kind of speculation from the OP is the product of being greedy to win tournament reward instead on focusing the actual game itself. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Lanatsa on August 28, 2023, 09:32:52 PM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not? Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into your business since players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: yahoo62278 on August 28, 2023, 09:37:54 PM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not? Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into your business since players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted. To answer, you will not be able to tell unless someone on the inside snitches. Otherwise, it would be very hard to come up with proof. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: 348Judah on August 28, 2023, 09:43:24 PM It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear.
Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Bushdark on August 28, 2023, 09:51:34 PM The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true. I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims. You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions? No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Sandra_hakeem on August 28, 2023, 09:58:04 PM Since the allegations aren't made provable, then that's not supposed to be considered at all... It could be they themselves are tryna maneuver thier ways to make easy winning possible....until that fact is made probable, we CANNOT attest to that..
Secondly, this information can possibly be true since casinos may wanna try to curb the wins on occasions like this... P/s: you haven't added any sourcelink to confirm this information... isn't this supposed to termed plagiarism since it's not your original information?? Sandra 🧑🦰 Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: ultrloa on August 28, 2023, 09:59:30 PM The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true. I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims. You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions? No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us. Some may do that so they will not spend huge amount to distribute to other people. Its like saving some money and continue marketing their site by having that promotion but its so hard to verify that unless OP or anyone have proof that this type of activities like using bots to deceive legit player is existing to their casino. Maybe for now OP should gather more evidence to make his accusation strong so that many of us here will see if that accusation is valid or not. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Lanatsa on August 28, 2023, 10:59:24 PM I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not? Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into your business since players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted. To answer, you will not be able to tell unless someone on the inside snitches. Otherwise, it would be very hard to come up with proof. In overall, its not really something that can be known unless if there would really be leaks which we know that its 99% guaranteed that there would be no smoke that comes out if ever they would be deciding on running a competition or promotion which allowing their own team to join up and been funded. Fake accounts i do rather believe that will really be that possible in abusing some bonuses or promotions which is really on that users side which is casual. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Webetcoins on August 30, 2023, 02:01:23 PM First of all, as said by others earlier, your claims are not backed with data or proof so how exactly do you expect the community to believe in what you say? It's your word against theirs, and that isn't enough. However, I personally believe that gamblers should basically stick with reputable and trusted gambling platforms to avoid such things. If you join newly launched platforms every now and then, you will definitely see things that you might find being not normal.
If we talk about the community and the impact of this thing on it, as I said, the community would probably not choose to use a casino platform that is extremely new and doesn't have much of a reputation as well, so most gamblers from the community will probably avoid such platforms. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Yatsan on August 30, 2023, 06:49:15 PM Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious, of course there have been some reports of bit involvement in the game process and the user overall experiences have been manipulated using some special tools like bots that you mentioned but none have been proven with any form of evidence. I agree and the rule as we all know is to accusation will remain one unless otherwise proven. Proving this on the other hand won't be done instantly, there'll be a whole lot of process and that invomves the site's cooperation on this one. So I guess this would be inpossible. If ever Megaplay would be at the edge of being guilty, they can just abandon the gambling platform and make a new one under other people's names. If this is true it will be totally wrong and not only unethical 'coz it is a form of cheating on their end.So Megaplay will still remain innocent of this allegation until proven guilty and from the look of things, your claims lack that evidence to prove them guilty, but it is a good thing that we are discussing this so that gamblers will be aware of such possibilities. It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear. Or simply move away from that site if you are being suspiscious of it unless your funds are being held by them. Ofcourse we would be wanting justice for those who were taken advantage of, if ever this is true. However that won't be too easy in web 3.0 for sure.Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: iv4n on August 30, 2023, 07:45:42 PM I agree with you on the difficulty in getting evidence for case of this nature, this is why this kind of case can either be swept under the carpet by the casino due to lack of evidence from the accusers and also the gambler,, on the other hand, could be manipulative at times trying to ruin the reputation of a particular casino. So the case is in both ways, but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible. In wagering races, it's all about the bankroll and wagering of course. Even if you have bots and fake accounts you need to fund them, and that's how they can take all top prizes. And I guess it's simple to do that in some new casino with not so many players, but when it comes to big casinos to run this scheme someone needs to risk millions and millions of dollars for what? $10-$20k prize pool that is split for top 20-50 places. Those who competed in any kind of wagering wars for a longer time and in more casinos know that hard-core wagering is a double-edged sword. Because we take huge risks in a short period of time, and when we play like that busting a deposit or a few deposits happens very often. There are bright moments and hits of course, but I will just say it again.... It's hard to compete with whales with a limited bankroll! Because of that we are "forced" to take huge risks, and in most cases that ends up badly. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Renampun on August 30, 2023, 08:15:38 PM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. claims without proof is defamation and OP seems to be doing that to bring down the reputation of megaplay, thank goodness this is a bitcointalk forum so claims without evidence like what OP did, will only attack him lol regarding whether there is a possibility for a gambling site to do tricks by using fake accounts and also bots to enliven their site, it is difficult to prove this because we do not have access to their database, so valid evidence is really needed to reveal possible fraud that could have been carried out by a gambling site, if it is only based on opinion then it is defamation. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: jostorres on August 30, 2023, 08:35:16 PM Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here? This might just be some immature kid who is not worth paying attention to. That's the problem with the internet, you never know who you are talking to. Making such allegations can be quite harmful to a business and since they are unproven, OP can get into some really hot water for his/her words. Some people only learn when they get served a court date for slandering the reputation of a legitimate business for no reason.If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. So again, the topic was made by either some immature child or a disgruntled sore loser who felt the need to smear the reputation of the casino because they could not handle gambling. I doubt we will hear from him again, seeing as its a random newbie. I don't think that the reputation of a casino or a platform would be compromised just because someone random is writing something just by themselves without providing any evidence as the community has their own minds and should have clear understanding of how they should handle that. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Odusko on August 30, 2023, 08:49:58 PM There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that, while in the op the casino is the user of the hot, but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino, so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time.
This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Fatunad on August 30, 2023, 08:58:17 PM There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that, while in the op the casino is the user of the hot, but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino, so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time. There are really people who wont really be that playing fair or simply they would really be trying out to abuse on something if ever they do see that it could really be possible or something that they could apply on.This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against. Bots and fake accounts abuse is never been that something new specially on bonuses and other promotions which having multiple accounts could really be that able to abuse it out and take advantage of it. Casino platforms arent really that dumb ones not for them to be able to detect or could really be able to filter out to those people or users who are really that tending to do such act.Its not something new and as a business then it would really be just that normal that they would set off high security measures on trying out to detect as much as possible to those who are tending to do such act. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Slow death on August 30, 2023, 09:52:23 PM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/megaplay.io there are many accusations and old ones, this shows that the casino does not solve the problems from customers, which led me to wonder why you went to create an account at a casino with a bad reputation and many accusations of scam, you can even look at the negative comments that are just below your comment. We could think that since trustpilot has had many fake reviews, then these negative comments that are on trustpilot would be more fake comments against the casino, therefore the casino would be being wronged. but when we look at what other sites like casino.guro have about this casino, we are faced with an astonishing scenario in which the casino also has a bad reputation, you and everyone can see how this casino fared at casino.guro: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/30/Me5PC.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/30/Me7jb.png source: https://casino.guru/megaplay-casino-review As you can see, they didn't have a good rating at the casino. I don't know if what you say is true or not, but based on the reviews I wouldn't use this casino, so my recommendation is that you make some effort to post proofs so that they can also be placed on casino.guro and trustpilot and with that other people did not use that casino because they will see your proofs and realize that this casino is not good, although just by looking at what is on trustpilot and casino.guro It already makes many people who care about their money not use this casino, at least in my opinion Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Wapfika on August 30, 2023, 11:09:11 PM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: wxa7115 on August 31, 2023, 01:39:17 AM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. And the only ones that are taken seriously are the ones that offered the evidence necessary to prove their claims, which is why a casino like 1xbit is so distrusted as we have seen tens of cases in which they scammed their customers. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Porfirii on August 31, 2023, 04:55:00 AM There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that, while in the op the casino is the user of the hot, but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino, so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time. This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against. As a curiosity, some casinos let you use bots if you ask them politely (I haven't done it myself, but I can recall a recent topic of my friend seoincorporation if I'm not wrong, who successfully used a bot for his gambling experiments in certain casino, after asking them for permission. That's not the case we are talking about in this thread, because in this case the user of the bot was allegedly the casino itself. Taking into account the power imbalance between the two parties (gambler and casino) the usage of bots by the latter should be monitored. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: piebeyb on August 31, 2023, 06:11:20 AM That's not the case we are talking about in this thread, because in this case the user of the bot was allegedly the casino itself. Taking into account the power imbalance between the two parties (gambler and casino) the usage of bots by the latter should be monitored. If that's the case, I'm not surprised, because there are lots of contest events in casinos where anonymous users are always the first ones, for some reason they never publish their usernames, even though this always raises suspicions for those of us who are real gamblers in the end we will lose to bots too and admit that we can't catch up and get to the top.I'm sure everyone won't be surprised by that because most of the anonymous activities I see there are like people in the casino itself, even though it's a real person, he should be better off revealing his identity with big bets, don't people like to publicize themselves just to show off? after all sometimes I see big bets in small and new casinos with anonymous users. I think it's the same :D Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: noormcs5 on August 31, 2023, 06:17:23 AM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. Most probably OP wants to wins the gambling sites contests and in case he loses, he will put the blame to the gambling sites being rigged. Maybe he forget that there are other people participating in the contest for a win too and we should not find the excuses for the loses. Just accept them especially in the gambling world. One can argue that casino have their players who win the wagering contests etc but without a proof, its not a thing to be discussed. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: ethereumhunter on August 31, 2023, 08:03:37 AM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. And the only ones that are taken seriously are the ones that offered the evidence necessary to prove their claims, which is why a casino like 1xbit is so distrusted as we have seen tens of cases in which they scammed their customers. We should not immediately believe what other sites review because we have to prove it ourselves. Often we are fooled by reviews from other sites and this results in us experiencing fraud as experienced by people who are not careful in finding a casino site that is suitable for them. We will also never know if someone in the casino uses bots or if it is a real gambler who plays gambling in the casino. Things like this are often seen in new casinos that claim to have lots of people visiting or have managed to get big wins but when it is validated, it turns out to be a lie that they deliberately created to attract more members. So it's not surprising. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: SamReomo on August 31, 2023, 08:19:18 AM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. I agree that the score of Trustpilot isn't that valid these days but if I'm not wrong then most of the platforms have their dedicated channels or pages on TrustPilot and some of them have amazing reviews on that site. While the reviews can be fake sometimes but still most users first go with Trustpilot route rather than directly going with the site they want to try. I have also noticed that the users which got bad experience on a site tend to leave their review on TrustPilot pages and we can't underestimate the fact that such reviews do have some impact on reputation of a platform. Most of the users hate about KYC details and that's one of the reasons for them to leave those low ratings. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Blitzboy on August 31, 2023, 12:35:53 PM ` That's a different case because a casino site like that will never want to solve the problems experienced by its members and will remain silent and not answer them. But if it is a trusted site, they will provide evidence to their members accusing them of cheating, cheating, or other problems.We should not immediately believe what other sites review because we have to prove it ourselves. Often we are fooled by reviews from other sites and this results in us experiencing fraud as experienced by people who are not careful in finding a casino site that is suitable for them. We will also never know if someone in the casino uses bots or if it is a real gambler who plays gambling in the casino. Things like this are often seen in new casinos that claim to have lots of people visiting or have managed to get big wins but when it is validated, it turns out to be a lie that they deliberately created to attract more members. So it's not surprising. How often are they sponsored, biased, or outright lying? Its up to us, the gamblers, to use our discernment. Relying solely on external reviews is just asking to be conned. It's high time we took things into our own hands and verified claims Bots? Lies? Fake victories? Its an utter mockery of the spirit of gambling. These new casinos think they can pull the wool over our eyes with tall tales? Think again! We're not naive children; we see through the charade Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 31, 2023, 02:42:33 PM The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true. I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims. You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions? No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us. Some may do that so they will not spend huge amount to distribute to other people. Its like saving some money and continue marketing their site by having that promotion but its so hard to verify that unless OP or anyone have proof that this type of activities like using bots to deceive legit player is existing to their casino. Maybe for now OP should gather more evidence to make his accusation strong so that many of us here will see if that accusation is valid or not. I am also in agreement with your motion, because a person who enters a casino like this, well, they will have the chance to win, they vanish like salt in water, but many tests are needed to verify the truth, currently I have seen that many casinos are They are making a lot of good AI equipment, for use with such a robot, it is not bad to have robots in the casinos, because the robots help in some simple tasks such as support, in casino security, in helping quickly even player in case of any doubt, and if this is too big for the robot, then they transfer the casio to an expert support operator, but in person, as he says things, they look very bad, something like that cannot be done, and also the The accusation is very delicate, because it is a site that is messing with and that is a company, which obviously may be operating well or badly, we do not know, but it is not possible to rush to give a final verdict. In any case, when it comes to this type accusation, not only the accusation of you is needed, but also of other sugars that have occurred in some of these things, I know that a long time ago they had been Excahnges or in fact still they do it, many bots to keep coins afloat, and various movements, of course that in exchanges can be handled in different ways, in the case of casinos if not that looks very ethical that we say they interfere in our game, and it is not playing r legal, or it is not kplaying fairly, as it should be, because the casino will always have its advantage, but everything as you paint it is something very serious, I dare not say more, you just have to do things with sufficient evidence, there are many times when casino users make very strong accusations about the casinos and this is not the idea, they can make them, but if they are not supported then these accusations simply will not have a good effect, in fact they will be taken as accusations of trolls or people who are against the casino and who knows for what reasons. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: AbuBhakar on August 31, 2023, 03:38:43 PM Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation. Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky. Most probably OP wants to wins the gambling sites contests and in case he loses, he will put the blame to the gambling sites being rigged. Maybe he forget that there are other people participating in the contest for a win too and we should not find the excuses for the loses. Just accept them especially in the gambling world. One can argue that casino have their players who win the wagering contests etc but without a proof, its not a thing to be discussed. You guessed it right because the user is came from other casino that has an active tournament that he keeps winning before due to minimal participants. His negative trust made by reputable user and the casino itself shows how this user have problem in the casino. He always wants to take advantage and probably want to use this thread the same reason that you assume, To blame the casino for cheating when he didn’t won. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: ethereumhunter on September 01, 2023, 09:14:45 AM Exactly! Its mind-boggling how some casino sites have the audacity to fool their members and yet expect unwavering loyalty. A trustworthy site should be transparent, open to criticism, and willing to address concerns. If they cant provide evidence when accusations fly around, thats a red flag. And if we come across such a casino, we must leave it immediately and don't fall victim to their scams. As long as we still have time to move our coins from one casino to another, we should use them before things end badly. We can look for or move to another more trustworthy casino in terms of security or service to its members.How often are they sponsored, biased, or outright lying? Its up to us, the gamblers, to use our discernment. Relying solely on external reviews is just asking to be conned. It's high time we took things into our own hands and verified claims Bots? Lies? Fake victories? Its an utter mockery of the spirit of gambling. These new casinos think they can pull the wool over our eyes with tall tales? Think again! We're not naive children; we see through the charade For this reason, we must get truly honest reviews and are lucky to get these reviews from this forum. Many members of this forum have given honest reviews to us and other people who are looking for a trusted casino to play gambling. And that means it's up to us how we will choose the casino. Bots, lies, fake wins. Casinos can do everything easily without us even knowing. We must always be careful in choosing a casino. When we find something suspicious, we should start taking action and reducing our gambling account balance by moving it to another casino we trust more. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: fullhdpixel on September 01, 2023, 08:59:30 PM It's only your own assumption and the bad thing is, you have no way to know if the casino is involved with bots or fake accounts. This kind of allegation almost happen in all casinos where there is wagering competition. Even in reputable site like Stake, there were some people who think that Stake use fake accounts or their own accounts to take the top prizes of the wagering competition. Similar as this one, the allegation is baseless without any solid evidence because most cases will always be based on feeling and assumption. Imo, in this kind of thing, what we need to do as players is to trust the casino because like what you said that only person who are behind the casino who know the truth. Even you're keep watching the leaderboard everyday, but during near end of the competition there's will a new account came up with huge wager, you can't blame them because the casino can say the account is a high roller. As long as you're not working behind the casino, you will not know about the truth. But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Odusko on September 01, 2023, 09:23:52 PM But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts. Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Bushdark on September 01, 2023, 10:40:15 PM But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts. Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: dothebeats on September 01, 2023, 11:12:07 PM But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts. Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible. That is an unfair practice from the casino's end and they should not have done that in the first place. True that they have what we call the house edge, but that doesn't mean that they can use that to justify their unfair practices and outright cheating. People should also try and avoid the casino who's practicing this as they are bound to lose their money easily without even having a fair chance to break even. It's never okay to be cheated off of your own money. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: 348Judah on September 02, 2023, 03:47:55 PM From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Quidat on September 02, 2023, 08:43:29 PM But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts. Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible. That is an unfair practice from the casino's end and they should not have done that in the first place. True that they have what we call the house edge, but that doesn't mean that they can use that to justify their unfair practices and outright cheating. People should also try and avoid the casino who's practicing this as they are bound to lose their money easily without even having a fair chance to break even. It's never okay to be cheated off of your own money. real experience on fairest way as possible.Even into those known and reputable gambling sites or companies cant really be that totally be 100% fair at all since there's no way on knowing that in the first place but dealing up with them does create that kind of confidence on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be having that kind of approach on sticking on whats popular but cant really be avoided that there are indeed times on which you would really be that liking to test out some new places or something that you havent tested out before. Simple with some curiosity and some little spark of interest which would trigger out with that kind of action on which it is really just that normal on having that way. Abusing bonuses or whatever kind of promotions is never been that ethical, whether we do like it or not, there are really people or types who would really all do sorts of things as long they do have the opportunity and doesnt mind whether its ethical,good or bad. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Westinhome on September 02, 2023, 09:08:28 PM From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary. The OP not said everything against the gambling sites as an unethical one,he said some gambling sites was doing this scam activities.The OP should understand this is not an activity of all the gambling site to add some bot for the win to their site.Some gambling site use the bot to made the random win to their alternative.Most of the gambling sites uses the bot for the cards games.Because the card game only involve of the points based.So showing the declare is easy task,for this reason most of the experienced gamblers won't play the cards game in the gambling sites.The bot is also used by some gamblers to get the winning amount to their account. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: khaled0111 on September 02, 2023, 11:54:02 PM From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary. Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: slapper on September 04, 2023, 03:05:41 PM ~snip~ Someone who do cheat or someone bounds to do such thing whether you are a player or a casino itself then its never been that ethical on doing so on which we do really want thatreal experience on fairest way as possible.Even into those known and reputable gambling sites or companies cant really be that totally be 100% fair at all since there's no way on knowing that in the first place but dealing up with them does create that kind of confidence on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be having that kind of approach on sticking on whats popular but cant really be avoided that there are indeed times on which you would really be that liking to test out some new places or something that you havent tested out before. Simple with some curiosity and some little spark of interest which would trigger out with that kind of action on which it is really just that normal on having that way. Abusing bonuses or whatever kind of promotions is never been that ethical, whether we do like it or not, there are really people or types who would really all do sorts of things as long they do have the opportunity and doesnt mind whether its ethical,good or bad. Even though I agree that no method is perfect, I will say that trustworthy sites tend to have more thorough checks in place. Your thoughts about how people are drawn to new things out of wonder are correct. But a seasoned gambler knows that stability and honesty are more important than new things Let's not make things hard to understand about awards. Everyone likes a good deal, but the line must be drawn at abuse. There are no shades of gray when it comes to ethics. You are either in the light or in the dark Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Wiwo on September 04, 2023, 03:19:38 PM From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary. Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: noormcs5 on September 04, 2023, 03:39:24 PM From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary. Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding. There is a little bit difference when you say that casino is using a bot in their favor or the gambler is using a bot. The gambling site can implement a bot without the knowledge of the gambler and they may never tell the gamblers about it. On the other hand, if gambling site found that a gambler is using bot that is against their term and conditions, they may actually block his account for this act. It highly unlikely that a gambler can use bots and other automated means to cheat a casino. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: bitbollo on September 04, 2023, 03:58:05 PM however, it would be interesting to see these reports as well and not just read the allegations and the final verdict.
Here the unethical practices... is this topic because without such essential information it is not possible to understand anything about the story, and this topic does not even make much sense to exist (besides the fact that it should be placed in the scam accusation section ::) ) Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: fullhdpixel on September 05, 2023, 09:04:04 PM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: milewilda on September 05, 2023, 09:08:20 PM I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino. Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: Weawant on September 05, 2023, 11:39:54 PM Potential Impact: If substantiated, the use of fake accounts and bots poses a grave threat to genuine players. This practice not only distorts the true odds of winning but also fosters an environment where users are unknowingly competing against automated entities designed to tilt the odds in favor of the casino. For now all this are just allegations as you haven't proven that anything that you have said is truth, but this allegations can be true because casino can be playing it unfair for the users without the users knowing that the system is manipulated not to favor them most of the time. To make the casino look very busy and active, bots can been used by most of the casino to deceive gamblers into thinking that their casino is active and used by many gamblers and also to cheat their customers. People can go extra miles to make money so OP could be right. I always think most casino are telling lies about their user number and the active gamblers that they have, I know we have lots of gamblers in the world but most of them are gambling on the popular casino and sportsbook so where do this small casino get all those high users. Title: Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race Post by: goinmerry on September 06, 2023, 08:22:34 AM I understand your sentiment but without solid proof, and as you clearly mentioned, this is just an allegation.
What to do now? Then stop using the site anymore if you think that will be good for you. It's always better to warn the community about certain issues regarding a site but only if there's solid proof about it or you itself experienced it for real and you showed every inch of the story here loud and clear. A contest with a leaderboard is really prone to suspicious attempts of bot participants since users don't have any way to be able to look at the system behind it. Even if there's a way, it needs and requires a technical knowledge level to determine how's it going. But these sites won't ruin their reputation just to have their own bot participate in the tournament. It's hard to build a reputation, especially in crypto-gambling that's why these sites care for it seriously. |