Unethical Practices:

[Wiwo]

Without any evidence, no one is going to take this allegation seriously...

It would be quite difficult to collect valid evidence for these claims... unless it is inside information. If someone from the team working at the casino decides to speak about such manipulations and gather some "real evidence" I will probably pay more attention to that. But just "words" from someone who didn't make it in a wager race don't have any value. I busted my bankroll too many times in trying to compete in different races. We play hard and we risk a lot and sometimes we simply lose. It's hard to compete with a limited bankroll and to catch up with high rollers...

I am not taking any sides here, I am just saying if you think there is something suspicious about the place where you gamble move to another place.

I agree with you on the difficulty in getting evidence for case of this nature,  this is why this kind of case can either be swept under the carpet by the casino due to lack of evidence from the accusers and also the gambler,, on the other hand, could be manipulative at times trying to ruin the reputation of a particular casino.

So the case is in both ways,  but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible.

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[BitcoinPanther]

Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation.

This states it all.  How can you @OP convince people to believe what you are stating when the allegations are unverified.  You could have at least give one or two strong supporting documents for the allegation.  This looks like a witch hunt when all the accusation is like because someone thought so.

If your base @OP is the ranking of leaderboard then I also think that it is not enough.  As @yahoo62278 stated, any whale player can turn the ranking upside down in just an hour if they intend to win the amount.  We have seen this on races in big casino where whales are competing against each other.  Not because these player name are hidden, the casino is cheating their players.  I myself had my username hidden on different casinos that I played.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Let's watch together. 8 days left for those prizes, having played there enough to know what's going on there.

This still doesn't prove your unsubstantiated claims of bot and fake accounts involvement in contests 🤷
Looking at your trust feedback, I can see you are up to something fishy in this forum

sujonali1819

2023-06-18

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The user is not trusted. Don't give any loans to this user.

MrBrightside1

2023-06-08

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Once a scammer always a scammer I guess. Does not honor his agreements even after given the chance to work things out. He refuses to claim the comission he received from me playing, while we agreed to give me a % of it back.

Let me quote what sujonali1819 said about you somewhere.

Sorry for bumping this thread.

OP yes, the user is not trusted anymore. There are several records where the user tried to scam blackjack.fun team. A few months or years ago The user attempted to cheat RealWinner(blackjack.fun player). Lately, you are also a victim.

After reviewing his profile I can see he is asking for some loans several times here in this forum. I am pretty sure the user will not pay if he gets a big loan. So it's a red signal for all the members, basically for the users who are involved in Lending.


Note: OP you should include his profile bitcointalk profile link in the main post.

[khaled0111]

The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?

[paxmao]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

[yahoo62278]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.

[goldkingcoiner]

Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation.

Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

This might just be some immature kid who is not worth paying attention to. That's the problem with the internet, you never know who you are talking to. Making such allegations can be quite harmful to a business and since they are unproven, OP can get into some really hot water for his/her words. Some people only learn when they get served a court date for slandering the reputation of a legitimate business for no reason.

So again, the topic was made by either some immature child or a disgruntled sore loser who felt the need to smear the reputation of the casino because they could not handle gambling. I doubt we will hear from him again, seeing as its a random newbie.

[AbuBhakar]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

This is correct. Some user is using the tournament reward as priority for profit and just play on games with minimal house edge to farm wager safely without a significant losses that’s why they relying too much on tournament to recover the small loss from wager farming and bag profit. This user is active on Blackjack.fun tournament before and now he move on different casino to aim for other tournament reward. This is kind of speculation from the OP is the product of being greedy to win tournament reward instead on focusing the actual game itself.

[Lanatsa]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.

And the main question is, how we would be able to determine if they are really that doing such scheme or such act? There's no way that we could be able to determine whether they are playing fair or not.

We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about
these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that
been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later
they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into  your business since
players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted.

[yahoo62278]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.

And the main question is, how we would be able to determine if they are really that doing such scheme or such act? There's no way that we could be able to determine whether they are playing fair or not.

We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about
these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that
been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later
they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into  your business since
players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted.

Going off topic for a sec here but why does your post look funny? You using AI? Copy/paste? Why are you breaking up a sentence in the middle and making a pasrtial line, then finishing the thought on a new line?

To answer, you will not be able to tell unless someone on the inside snitches. Otherwise, it would be very hard to come up with proof.

[348Judah]

It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear.

[Bushdark]

The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?

I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.

 No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this  post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Since the allegations aren't made provable, then that's not supposed to be considered at all... It could be they themselves are tryna maneuver thier ways to make easy winning possible....^{until that fact is made probable, we CANNOT attest to that..}
Secondly, this information can possibly be true since casinos may wanna try to curb the wins on occasions like this...
P/s: you haven't added any sourcelink to confirm this information... isn't this supposed to termed plagiarism since it's not your original information??

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[ultrloa]

The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?

I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.

 No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this  post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us.

Some may do that so they will not spend huge amount to distribute to other people. Its like saving some money and continue marketing their site by having that promotion but its so hard to verify that unless OP or anyone have proof that this type of activities like using bots to deceive legit player is existing to their casino.
Maybe for now OP should gather more evidence to make his accusation strong so that many of us here will see if that accusation is valid or not.

[Lanatsa]

I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?

Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.

And the main question is, how we would be able to determine if they are really that doing such scheme or such act? There's no way that we could be able to determine whether they are playing fair or not.

We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about
these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that
been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later
they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into  your business since
players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted.

Going off topic for a sec here but why does your post look funny? You using AI? Copy/paste? Why are you breaking up a sentence in the middle and making a pasrtial line, then finishing the thought on a new line?

To answer, you will not be able to tell unless someone on the inside snitches. Otherwise, it would be very hard to come up with proof.

Its just my usual response and im not really making use of those you call AI or copy paste.  Im sorry if it do looks funny but this is based according to my own understanding and just saying up my opinion.

In overall, its not really something that can be known unless if there would really be leaks which we know that its 99% guaranteed that there would be no smoke that comes out if ever they would be deciding
on running a competition or promotion which allowing their own team to join up and been funded.  Fake accounts i do rather believe that will really be that possible in abusing some bonuses or promotions
which is really on that users side which is casual.

[Webetcoins]

First of all, as said by others earlier, your claims are not backed with data or proof so how exactly do you expect the community to believe in what you say? It's your word against theirs, and that isn't enough. However, I personally believe that gamblers should basically stick with reputable and trusted gambling platforms to avoid such things. If you join newly launched platforms every now and then, you will definitely see things that you might find being not normal.

If we talk about the community and the impact of this thing on it, as I said, the community would probably not choose to use a casino platform that is extremely new and doesn't have much of a reputation as well, so most gamblers from the community will probably avoid such platforms.

[Yatsan]

Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious, of course there have been some reports of bit involvement in the game process and the user overall experiences have been manipulated using some special tools like bots that you mentioned but none have been proven with any form of evidence.

So Megaplay will still remain innocent of this allegation until proven guilty and from the look of things,  your claims lack that evidence to prove them guilty,  but it is a good thing that we are discussing this so that gamblers will be aware of such possibilities.

I agree and the rule as we all know is to accusation will remain one unless otherwise proven. Proving this on the other hand won't be done instantly, there'll be a whole lot of process and that invomves the site's cooperation on this one. So I guess this would be inpossible. If ever Megaplay would be at the edge of being guilty, they can just abandon the gambling platform and make a new one under other people's names. If this is true it will be totally wrong and not only unethical 'coz it is a form of cheating on their end.

It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear.

Or simply move away from that site if you are being suspiscious of it unless your funds are being held by them. Ofcourse we would be wanting justice for those who were taken advantage of, if ever this is true. However that won't be too easy in web 3.0 for sure.

[iv4n]

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I agree with you on the difficulty in getting evidence for case of this nature,  this is why this kind of case can either be swept under the carpet by the casino due to lack of evidence from the accusers and also the gambler,, on the other hand, could be manipulative at times trying to ruin the reputation of a particular casino.

So the case is in both ways,  but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible.

In wagering races, it's all about the bankroll and wagering of course. Even if you have bots and fake accounts you need to fund them, and that's how they can take all top prizes. And I guess it's simple to do that in some new casino with not so many players, but when it comes to big casinos to run this scheme someone needs to risk millions and millions of dollars for what? $10-$20k prize pool that is split for top 20-50 places.

Those who competed in any kind of wagering wars for a longer time and in more casinos know that hard-core wagering is a double-edged sword. Because we take huge risks in a short period of time, and when we play like that busting a deposit or a few deposits happens very often. There are bright moments and hits of course, but I will just say it again.... It's hard to compete with whales with a limited bankroll! Because of that we are "forced" to take huge risks, and in most cases that ends up badly.

[Renampun]

Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation.

Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

claims without proof is defamation and OP seems to be doing that to bring down the reputation of megaplay, thank goodness this is a bitcointalk forum so claims without evidence like what OP did, will only attack him lol

regarding whether there is a possibility for a gambling site to do tricks by using fake accounts and also bots to enliven their site, it is difficult to prove this because we do not have access to their database, so valid evidence is really needed to reveal possible fraud that could have been carried out by a gambling site, if it is only based on opinion then it is defamation.

[jostorres]

Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

This might just be some immature kid who is not worth paying attention to. That's the problem with the internet, you never know who you are talking to. Making such allegations can be quite harmful to a business and since they are unproven, OP can get into some really hot water for his/her words. Some people only learn when they get served a court date for slandering the reputation of a legitimate business for no reason.

So again, the topic was made by either some immature child or a disgruntled sore loser who felt the need to smear the reputation of the casino because they could not handle gambling. I doubt we will hear from him again, seeing as its a random newbie.

Well, when there is a platform that provides freedom of speech to almost everyone, such things will happen. Now, it depends on the people reading the posts and having their own perspective about it and how they evaluate the situation and decide on what they think about it. Allegations that are not backed with ample proof and evidence shouldn't be taken seriously by the community and they should have their own thinking and understanding about things.

I don't think that the reputation of a casino or a platform would be compromised just because someone random is writing something just by themselves without providing any evidence as the community has their own minds and should have clear understanding of how they should handle that.