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Title: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 08:39:36 PM
   so many old members here were invited to Bitcointalk by family members, friends.while some were invited through Google search and YouTube. At first on getting here you find yourself thinking how you might get started, so you can also feel like you belong to the community and rank up.
   As a newbie, you have so many taughts running through your mind, ie "would you rank up or get stucked in a lower rank for long, when next will you earn merits. while doing this, you become so careful creating or interacting with members so you start earning recognition and trust on the community.

Many times, I think that not having more newbies here on Bitcoin will actually make the community less active.
So, why do I think it's essential to welcome more newbies to Bitcointalk? The presence of newcomers injects vitality into the community. They bring fresh ideas, add value, and help spread the word about Bitcoin. New members can also play a pivotal role in inviting others and creating engaging discussions. I think that without new topics and discussions, it could become challenging for signature campaign members to fulfill their weekly tasks. Interestingly, around 50 percent of daily topics and threads are initiated by newbies and low-ranked members.
Again, Newbies can revitalize participation, particularly in competitions like the Roobet monthly contest, October Halloween contest and so many other interesting contest on Bitcointalk. Senior members often have busy schedules due to their signature campaigns, but newbies can ignite interest in such events and participate.making it more challenging and competitive.

On the other hand, some newbies are finding it difficult to join or even last here on  Bitcointalk for long. this is because of the fact that they get distracted by some of the other activities here on Bitcointalk including bounty, signature campaigns or try to outsmart the rules of the forum (plagarism).
For these reason, they are not willing to learn. newbies these days, don't want to learn but trys to teach others what they don't have enough much Knowledge about. they forget that one must learn to crawl before they begin to walk.

when inviting someone to Bitcointalk, you should see to it that they understand what it's all about and yes you can equally tell them all the benefits that come with joining Bitcointalk but be sure to inform them about all the rules they have to abide, to so they don't come here and start spamming the forum without understanding the rules.

so far I have invited 3 person to Bitcointalk, but just 1 of them is here and still actively engaging on the forum. I thank LoyceV for her thread: The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg52491458#msg52491458). I know so many has raised the question, like why she has decided to continue updating that thread, but the truth is that she sees a future in these newbies and I too see because I was once a newbie who faced somany trials while ranking up, but I overcame. I don't know about others though, but i always loved being mentioned every month on LoyceV thread, as this encouraged me to work harder towards achieving a higher rank. so if you are one of those person doubting their self here on Bitcointalk if they can rank up fully, just be patient and engage with the forum regularly and you will see it's result. don't forget to follow the rules.

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Sim_card on September 10, 2023, 09:04:57 PM
 when inviting someone to Bitcointalk, you should see to it that they understand what it's all about and yes you can equally tell them all the benefits that come with joining Bitcointalk but be sure to inform them about all the rules they have to abide, to so they don't come here and start spamming the forum without understanding the rules.
Must you tell them about the benefits ? You should only tell anyone that is willing to learn bitcoin about the forum after you ahve spoken to him and the person showed interest on learning. If you tell them that you can earn from the forum,this is what they will put in their mind that will make them to register here and not to learn. This is one of the reason that most newbies find it difficult to grow and they will end up being banned from the forum because they are eager to earn merits and they will be too lazy to learn but very strong for plaigarism


To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D
You should invite only who is ready to learn or ready to invest or has already invested without a proper knowledge on how to keep his funds safe because some bitcoin investors thinks that leaving their coins in an exchange is the best due to lack of knowledge on how bitcoin should be stored. The forum has always encouraged members to bring in more people into the community so that the adoption of bitcoin will increase in the world,which has always being the target of this forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: DVlog on September 10, 2023, 09:21:41 PM
Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity. Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly. If your friends or family recently learned about bitcoin and want to learn more then invite them to this forum. This forum contains core knowledge about bitcoin. This forum was founded by satoshi himself so to be in this fourm and learn from some legends will be a honor.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: SatoPrincess on September 10, 2023, 09:33:32 PM
  I  think that without new topics and discussions, it could become challenging for signature campaign members to fulfill their weekly tasks. Interestingly, around 50 percent of daily topics and threads are initiated by newbies and low-ranked members.
Again, Newbies can revitalize participation, particularly in competitions like the Roobet monthly contest, October Halloween contest and so many other interesting contest on Bitcointalk. Senior members often have busy schedules due to their signature campaigns, but newbies can ignite interest in such events and participate.making it more challenging and competitive.

Signature campaigns and art contests isn’t the forum primary concern, Theymos have mentioned before that signature may be removed from the forum entirely. Judging by that, if we only need newbies to complete post count for weekly pay, then there won’t be any need for newbies if and when signature campaigns are no longer here.
If you’re inviting your friends to the forum, you should explain to them what the forum is about. What you tell them will be their foundation and if they are made to believe that incentives like art contests and campaigns are the purpose of the forum,  that’s partly your fault.


Btw what makes you think LoyceV is human? Bots do not have genders. I think we will be seeing LoyceV in next year’s bitcointalk awards for miss bitcointalk category  ;D


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: nakamura12 on September 10, 2023, 09:50:08 PM
I don't think newbies are finding it hard to join in the forum. If they want to join then let them join the forum because no one is making them unable to join the forum kr against them if they join the forum. The importance of newbie inviting to thr forum is vital for their learning since they can gain knowledge here in the forum and the one who invited the newbie should explain what he/she can do here in the forum and the benefits of joining. Honestly, this forum have impact on my daily life and also give me knowledge on what I can do to earn money.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Mr.suevie on September 10, 2023, 10:40:14 PM
It's very important for newbie to come here because not all newbie actually do the rubbish that all of them are being tagged for. Newbie are the ones who increases the hope of this forum staying longer because every reputable member has all once been a newbie because no one actually skips this part. But as newbie learning about your environment is key because this is what pusshes vou to grow and strive very well here in the forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 10:57:17 PM
Signature campaigns and art contests isn’t the forum primary concern, Theymos have mentioned before that signature may be removed from the forum entirely. Judging by that, if we only need newbies to complete post count for weekly pay, then there won’t be any need for newbies if and when signature campaigns are no longer here. 

I know most people will lie about this part, (to save ones image or :o). If the signature campaigns are to be stopped someday on Bitcointalk, the no of members here would drop. Alot of members here on Bitcointalk will tell you that they are here to gain knowledge of which is one benefit of being a member of Bitcointalk but they all know deep down that if there wasn't any signature campaigns then alot of them wouldn't be here, but only visit when they are less busy or when they feel like.. I won't lie I too might just do same ;D. But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.




Btw what makes you think LoyceV is human? Bots do not have genders. I think we will be seeing LoyceV in next year’s bitcointalk awards for miss bitcointalk category  ;D

Lol, I actually had lots of taughts about LoyceV. Sometimes I can't tell if it's a human or a bot operating those account. What ever they are, thy are doing some good jobs on Bitcointalk and I think they should keep it up.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: sheenshane on September 10, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.
Let's say just like a car that won't move far if it doesn't have gasoline.
It helps to sustain your expenses while you are here just like the electricity bill and your internet bill.

But newbies shouldn't think first about the profit/benefit and shouldn't not only the reason why they are here.  It should be a determination to gain knowledge and improve skills while they are here.  Because IMO, the more you are eager to make a profit will have to idea of cheating while you are here which probably ends up destroying your account once you've caught it.

Anyway, encourage someone is a good idea to join here in the community but there's no reason to force them if they will not.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Chilwell on September 11, 2023, 12:35:52 AM

You should invite only who is ready to learn or ready to invest or has already invested without a proper knowledge on how to keep his funds safe because some bitcoin investors thinks that leaving their coins in an exchange is the best due to lack of knowledge on how bitcoin should be stored.
If they should go by this statement I will still be running round the street without knowing that bitcointalk exist. When I was first introduces to the forum I don't know anything about bitcoin, I normally see it in Internet but don't know it, seen it frequently I began to asked how can I get Bitcoin, I thought it something that you earn through performing task which I discovered and I give up. One day a friend of mine introduce me to the forum and since then I started learning about bitcoin, even know that it contain eight digit.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Upgrade00 on September 11, 2023, 02:56:17 AM
But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.
Financial motivation is a very big reason why a lot of members use bitcointalk and that in itself is not a problem at all. We all have bills and real life expenses to pay, getting some income while doing something you love doing and have an interest in is something that comes very easy for everyone.

That being said this does not mean that we solely invite someone with the promise that the forum will give them an extra source of income if they do certain things right. We should only invite people who have an interest in Bitcoin or use this forum as a means to spark an interest for someone we want to get to know about Bitcoin.
This will reduce the rate of spam from members who are here just to join bounties and get rich quicky or at least make some dollars quick.

If signatures ever stopped more than two-thirds of the members here will be totally inactive and those who do remain here will either do it sparingly out of love for Bitcoin or in the hopes that signatures will someday return and they will have grown their accounts in preparation for that.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: mk4 on September 11, 2023, 02:56:30 AM
Ok — how? Knowing how most community apps/platforms right now(Reddit, Twitter, etc) work, it's very unlikely for the typical person to be interested in a 2003-style community forum. The people you can attract to Bitcointalk today are mostly the:

- bounty farmers
- developers/technical people
- the privacy conscious
- people that are actually interested in Bitcoin, hardcore-mode


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Upgrade00 on September 11, 2023, 03:00:37 AM
The people you can attract to Bitcointalk today are mostly the:

- people that are actually interested in Bitcoin, hardcore-mode
They do not really have to be hardcore members, even those who have a very basic interest in Bitcoin can pick an interest in the forum and build that interest from there.

The retro style can also serve as an appeal to those who are looking for something unique to be a part of.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Darker45 on September 11, 2023, 03:19:33 AM
It's always good to have newcomers. Whether they'd be more of a lurker or an active participant in discussions doesn't matter much. I guess the most important thing is that the forum is growing. Some of these newcomers may be new to Bitcoin; some of them may be not. Regardless, it's always a good development. It's either one more person is beginning to learn about Bitcoin or one more person sharing knowledge and bringing in new ideas and perspective.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: mk4 on September 11, 2023, 03:47:53 AM
They do not really have to be hardcore members, even those who have a very basic interest in Bitcoin can pick an interest in the forum and build that interest from there.

The retro style can also serve as an appeal to those who are looking for something unique to be a part of.

Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: UchihaSarada on September 11, 2023, 04:22:03 AM
Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.
It is easier to use a mobile phone to tweet, retweet, share a status on social media than typing a long post in Bitcointalk. They don't want to type too much on mobile phone and social media are more fitted for their ready to spend time and effort on mobile devices.

Fortunately, on Bitcointalk, you can learn from insightful topics and if newbies want to learn technical knowledge, Bitcointalk is very fitted for them.

Mobile vs desktop usage (https://research.com/software/mobile-vs-desktop-usage)
https://s2.research.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/29121901/Mobile-vs-Desktop-Usage-Statistics-Image-1-1024x625.jpg


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Upgrade00 on September 11, 2023, 08:12:05 AM
Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum.
That's definitely correct. Many will favour more comfort tailored social medias to The forum which seems to not be interested in your registration or your attention; it's either you want to be here or you don't.

This will not attract the majority, but in my experience anyone who I invite to the forum usually takes to it like duck to water without any interest in the financial gains that are available here.

And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.
It's honestly not that bad, just needs some getting used to.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: BitcoinPanther on September 11, 2023, 09:06:53 AM
I refer most of people that I talk with about cryptocurrency to the forum.  I don't invite them to register but told them that Bitcointalk.org is a good source of information about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.  They can also get registered and ask questions about something that they don't know on cryptocurrency but I always advise them to do searches first.


You should invite only who is ready to learn or ready to invest or has already invested without a proper knowledge on how to keep his funds safe because some bitcoin investors thinks that leaving their coins in an exchange is the best due to lack of knowledge on how bitcoin should be stored.
If they should go by this statement I will still be running round the street without knowing that bitcointalk exist. When I was first introduces to the forum I don't know anything about bitcoin, I normally see it in Internet but don't know it, seen it frequently I began to asked how can I get Bitcoin, I thought it something that you earn through performing task which I discovered and I give up. One day a friend of mine introduce me to the forum and since then I started learning about bitcoin, even know that it contain eight digit.

People who are looking for something different can find their way here.  No one had introduced Bitcointalk personally to me, I found the forum through google search since during the first time I got interested with cryptocurrency.  You are lucky that someone had introduced the forum to you and possibly guide you on what to do in the forum.

In the matter of having new users, it is indeed needed  to make the forum alive and active especially those who have technical knowledge about coding since they can easily grasp the technical aspect of bitcoin and may contribute to the forum by giving answers to people who asked about technical questions.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 11, 2023, 09:37:21 AM
I agree with the OP that newbies can give the forum fresh communication as long as they are real newbies and not the tenth alternative, and this may not be the first time that an account has been banned.
I observe that as soon as Bitcoin begins to rise in price, more people appear here on the forum, and I think this can be seen next year. As soon as the background of the news changes, people's interest awakens, and some even find their way here without an invitation.
On the other hand, for my personal example, I told several friends about the forum when I came here, but unfortunately, no one was there since people did not show interest. This applies not only to monetary motivations, as many people think, but sometimes interests are different, and we should not put pressure on people. There is simply a time when people come here and stay for a long time because of their desire.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Mayor of ogba on September 11, 2023, 09:41:25 AM
On the other hand, some newbies are finding it difficult to join or even last here on  Bitcointalk for long. This is because they get distracted by some of the other activities here on Bitcointalk including bounty, and signature campaigns, or try to outsmart the rules of the forum (plagarism).
For this reason, they are not willing to learn. Newbies these days, don't want to learn but try to teach others what they don't have enough knowledge about. They forget that one must learn to crawl before one begins to walk.
For newbies not to learn from this forum, it depends on what they are told from the beginning about this forum. For instance, if you tell a newbie the earning aspects of this forum believe me when the newbie arrives here he/she will not want to understand this forum and will start teaching to gain merit quickly instead of gaining knowledge from this forum first. If we are inviting newbies to this forum we should invite newbies that already have in mind to learn about Bitcoin but they are limited to the opportunity of doing that.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Despairo on September 11, 2023, 09:48:28 AM
Not everyone are interested with Bitcoin, not everyone want to use their time to active in this forum, not everyone want to post in this forum, not everyone can accept harsh words and criticism etc etc.

Just let it what should be, not need to convince new people or anyone to join in this forum.

Again, Newbies can revitalize participation, particularly in competitions like the Roobet monthly contest, October Halloween contest and so many other interesting contest on Bitcointalk.
Then why you're not participating in those art contest? it doesn't make sense you're want to see newbies are participating when you're didn't. Maybe I get what you mean, you have alt accounts that's used to participate in art contest? :P


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Hatchy on September 11, 2023, 10:02:53 AM
Then why you're not participating in those art contest? it doesn't make sense you're want to see newbies are participating when you're didn't. Maybe I get what you mean, you have alt accounts that's used to participate in art contest? :P

I sometime try to ignore people when they accuse me of alt accounts and I will do same to you. Maybe if you had checked my post history very well, you would have seen that I actually participated in the Re: Roobet.com | August Art Contest | $5000 Up for grabs! Ends August 31st (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462163.msg62651610#msg62651610). As a high ranked member of the forum, I expected you to carry out your research properly before accusing others. How does one manages to run alts when growing just one account takes time and courage.
We all love what's best for the forum, and I gave a suggestion which I think will help increase the activities and knowledge of the forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: inthelongrun on September 11, 2023, 10:37:42 AM
Even now, I always refer to this forum as the best way to learn about bitcoin and crypto although I haven't specifically told them to create an account. In the past, I only tried inviting a few people to join this forum to guide their journey towards bitcoin and crypto explorations. But I never told them about how to rank up because it is unnecessary IMO. If the goal is to rank up then most likely the real intention is to earn money in this forum. But that is so minimal so it doesn't make any sense. People should go on with their regular jobs and businesses while investing in bitcoin and altcoins. If they stay in this forum and have fun reading and commenting then pretty sure they themselves will discover the ways to earn and it is up to them if they pursue achieving high ranks if they are interested in joining bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: GeorgeJohn on September 11, 2023, 12:38:59 PM
Op I think you are getting it wrong by saying that majority are been invited in the forum through friends, it's partially correct and also incorrect from my understanding. What I want you to understand in bitcointalk is that, its now many people is been invited in bitcointalk through their friends because of payment they are receiving in signatures campaign, their is some people who registered in bitcointalk without knowing that signatures campaign where they will earn weekly and monthly bitcoin subscriptions is in existence, some people joined bitcointalk through bounty link shared on Facebook and telegram even reddit and twitter, so many people who registered in the year 2011and 2012, 2023 noticed bitcointalk through social media.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Queentoshi on September 11, 2023, 01:25:28 PM
To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D
I will choose to invite newbies who are truly interested in learning about bitcoins. They will make better forum members and take it more seriously than someone who was forced to join the forum, or just joined because there is a chance to earn from forum campaigns. If I also come across people who have a lot of knowledge about bitcoins and cryptocurrency, I also will like to invite them to the forum, so they can really contribute to the knowledge that we get here.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Odohu on September 11, 2023, 05:33:18 PM
Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity.
Have you bothered to think about the future of the forum without new people joining? Does that make for continuity? Do you envisage an end to this forum that have helped a lot of people? If you can answer these questions sincerely without trying to impress the older members of this forum, i'm sure you will realise the importance of inviting new people to this forum.

Sincerely, it can be annoying seeing new users making some posts in some boards; it's like when you see children display certain irrational characters. You won't kill them because their knowledge is limited by their age and experience, instead you correct them with love. Remember,  we all started as newbies and you cannot tell me you were perfect right from the first day you joined this forum... this is a place to learn and grow.

Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly.
I'm not trying to attack you or your opinion but we have to set the records straight.  Without any benefits, you will not be here. There must be something keeping each and everyone of us here. Remember,  not everyone here is wearing signature; some are here for the knowledge, others are here to promote their business while there are people here just to feel among the Bitcoin community. Our motives are different and that is how it should be.


 


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: DVlog on September 11, 2023, 06:40:24 PM
Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly.
I'm not trying to attack you or your opinion but we have to set the records straight.  Without any benefits, you will not be here. There must be something keeping each and everyone of us here. Remember,  not everyone here is wearing signature; some are here for the knowledge, others are here to promote their business while there are people here just to feel among the Bitcoin community. Our motives are different and that is how it should be.

Yes, I am benefiting from the forum by sharpening my mind by reading discussions from some OG members in the forum. I am not here to make anyone happy and I am wearing a signature that doesn't mean I am only here for the signature. I am not against you or against inviting new people, i just want them to respect the forum rules which most new members don't. When i do not have anything to do i come to the forum to read comments. You can say i spend some of my free time doing this i am getting used to it. 


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Winterfrost on September 11, 2023, 07:18:48 PM
Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity. Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly. If your friends or family recently learned about bitcoin and want to learn more then invite them to this forum. This forum contains core knowledge about bitcoin. This forum was founded by satoshi himself so to be in this fourm and learn from some legends will be a honor.
You're saying that many newbies in the forum spam because they want to earn money. But remember, everyone, including you, started as a newbie at some point. You've learned and now understand the forum well enough to contribute positively. What I'm trying to say is that everyone should get a chance because they're new and here to learn and improve. The higher-ranked members were once newbies too, and now they guide and help the forum grow. It's like the saying, "The Beautiful ones are not yet born," meaning that intelligent and tech-savvy people are also among the new members. We never know what new forum members might bring to the table.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: DVlog on September 11, 2023, 07:37:58 PM
Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity. Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly. If your friends or family recently learned about bitcoin and want to learn more then invite them to this forum. This forum contains core knowledge about bitcoin. This forum was founded by satoshi himself so to be in this fourm and learn from some legends will be a honor.
You're saying that many newbies in the forum spam because they want to earn money. But remember, everyone, including you, started as a newbie at some point. You've learned and now understand the forum well enough to contribute positively. What I'm trying to say is that everyone should get a chance because they're new and here to learn and improve. The higher-ranked members were once newbies too, and now they guide and help the forum grow. It's like the saying, "The Beautiful ones are not yet born," meaning that intelligent and tech-savvy people are also among the new members. We never know what new forum members might bring to the table.

Yeah, we all started somewhere as a newbie. When i first joined the forum one of my friends said to me Don't make comments on this board, don't go there blah blah. I know everyone in here for some quick buck, some people come here for knowledge. Do you know what old members of this forum suggested newbies do when they came to the forum? Read more say less. The more you read the more you will learn. If build up your knowledge you can contribute to this forum through this knowledge and this takes time. It's not like you just joined the forum and started advising people. This is what most of the new members do. They do not spend enough time to read and my concern is for them not for those who come to the forum to seek knowledge.



Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: 348Judah on September 11, 2023, 08:08:54 PM
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Know this very well that wether you invite a newbie or not bitcoin will still remain and ever sustainable because thise joining are not the ones we only invited alone, people were by themselves showing interest to join because they have found a need to do so, also we should know that bitcoin is a currency that is not centralized, rather it was made for the people who think they needed a change in how they handle their financial economy and needed a secured means they can trust or handles by themselves, for every newbies coming to bitcointalk, its a community created for bitcoin users to discuss together, if they see there's need for joining they are free as long as they are also willing to abide by the rules and regulations here.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 12, 2023, 11:16:30 AM
The presence of newcomers injects vitality into the community.
Really? How's that so? In my books I think newcomers even come with a lot of baggage that the forum helps to dismantle and not the other way round. But that isn't jettisoning the fact that a handful of them have proved themselves beyond expectation upon registering here.

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so far I have invited 3 person to Bitcointalk, but just 1 of them is here and still actively engaging on the forum.
That's often the problem with people. I've invited several others too and almost all of them displayed this same attitude. Just ignore the unserious ones and move on. At the right time they will come asking to be led. Learning is always the hardest part for most people. They don't like to wait for the process. They want to jump the queue and into success with little or no effort at all. Life isn't that way.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: ultrloa on September 12, 2023, 11:52:15 AM
That's often the problem with people. I've invited several others too and almost all of them displayed this same attitude. Just ignore the unserious ones and move on. At the right time they will come asking to be led. Learning is always the hardest part for most people. They don't like to wait for the process. They want to jump the queue and into success with little or no effort at all. Life isn't that way.

Hard to invite people who think that you are just promoting networking scams to them and can't blame them to think about that since government portrays bitcoin as so risky investors. Also other misinterpret this as scam so most likely if they don't know anything about it they will leave especially if they cannot get anything on this or other platform you try to point out on them.

But if you tell about money making schemes for sure there's a lot of people will get interested about it but don't hype people for wrong things just let them discover this and only those interested people would provably stay.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: icalical on September 12, 2023, 02:22:03 PM
Well if the person is already know and interested in crypto or Bitcoin but they never heard about this forum, then I do agree that inviting them could be beneficial for both the forum and themselves. But if you inviting random people, like you shill the forum to just anybody, even to people who don't really interested in crypto, and then you tell them about the 'benefit' they can get in this forum, then you will give them the wrong motivation, those kind of people either will only stay for a week or two, or even worse if they stay longer, they will tend to just spamming this forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Shamm on September 12, 2023, 02:38:03 PM
That's often the problem with people. I've invited several others too and almost all of them displayed this same attitude. Just ignore the unserious ones and move on. At the right time they will come asking to be led. Learning is always the hardest part for most people. They don't like to wait for the process. They want to jump the queue and into success with little or no effort at all. Life isn't that way.

Hard to invite people who think that you are just promoting networking scams to them and can't blame them to think about that since government portrays bitcoin as so risky investors. Also other misinterpret this as scam so most likely if they don't know anything about it they will leave especially if they cannot get anything on this or other platform you try to point out on them.

But if you tell about money making schemes for sure there's a lot of people will get interested about it but don't hype people for wrong things just let them discover this and only those interested people would provably stay.

Yes you are right that mate nowadays it's hard to invite other people to access on bitcointalk.org cause son of them knows that bitcoin is a scam so of we introduce them this forum they will say that this forum is is not reliable and they can't earn anything on this forum. And some of once they know this forum they will try and register but all of the sudden they will disappear cause they will not totally dedicated to know more in this forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Razmirraz on September 12, 2023, 02:47:23 PM
There are several paths that take Newbie to the Bitcointalk forum, some are invited by friends or family and some find their way through Google and information from social media and YouTube. Their motives are varied when they come here, some want to find information about Bitcoin and others whose main goal is just to make money. Those who are successful in the forum start from wanting to deepen their knowledge about Bitcoin, then they feel at home here and succeed in reaching the highest ranking for their contribution to the forum.

Meanwhile, those who are lazy about developing their knowledge while in the forum will continue to be stuck in the Newbie rank, those who are lazy about reading will find it difficult to rank up and eventually leave the forum. The Bitcointalk forum always has newcomers and not many of them are able to survive because they find it difficult to rank up, but the forum will always be busy even though it is not yet widely known among the public.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: HONDACD125 on September 12, 2023, 04:46:18 PM
   so many old members here were invited to Bitcointalk by family members, friends.while some were invited through Google search and YouTube. At first on getting here you find yourself thinking how you might get started, so you can also feel like you belong to the community and rank up.
   As a newbie, you have so many taughts running through your mind, ie "would you rank up or get stucked in a lower rank for long, when next will you earn merits. while doing this, you become so careful creating or interacting with members so you start earning recognition and trust on the community.

Many times, I think that not having more newbies here on Bitcoin will actually make the community less active.
So, why do I think it's essential to welcome more newbies to Bitcointalk? The presence of newcomers injects vitality into the community. They bring fresh ideas, add value, and help spread the word about Bitcoin. New members can also play a pivotal role in inviting others and creating engaging discussions. I think that without new topics and discussions, it could become challenging for signature campaign members to fulfill their weekly tasks. Interestingly, around 50 percent of daily topics and threads are initiated by newbies and low-ranked members.
Again, Newbies can revitalize participation, particularly in competitions like the Roobet monthly contest, October Halloween contest and so many other interesting contest on Bitcointalk. Senior members often have busy schedules due to their signature campaigns, but newbies can ignite interest in such events and participate.making it more challenging and competitive.

On the other hand, some newbies are finding it difficult to join or even last here on  Bitcointalk for long. this is because of the fact that they get distracted by some of the other activities here on Bitcointalk including bounty, signature campaigns or try to outsmart the rules of the forum (plagarism).
For these reason, they are not willing to learn. newbies these days, don't want to learn but trys to teach others what they don't have enough much Knowledge about. they forget that one must learn to crawl before they begin to walk.

when inviting someone to Bitcointalk, you should see to it that they understand what it's all about and yes you can equally tell them all the benefits that come with joining Bitcointalk but be sure to inform them about all the rules they have to abide, to so they don't come here and start spamming the forum without understanding the rules.

so far I have invited 3 person to Bitcointalk, but just 1 of them is here and still actively engaging on the forum. I thank LoyceV for her thread: The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg52491458#msg52491458). I know so many has raised the question, like why she has decided to continue updating that thread, but the truth is that she sees a future in these newbies and I too see because I was once a newbie who faced somany trials while ranking up, but I overcame. I don't know about others though, but i always loved being mentioned every month on LoyceV thread, as this encouraged me to work harder towards achieving a higher rank. so if you are one of those person doubting their self here on Bitcointalk if they can rank up fully, just be patient and engage with the forum regularly and you will see it's result. don't forget to follow the rules.

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D


Your suggestion is very good that if people come to Bitcoin talk platform it can generate new ideas. Most people have a good experience on this platform. They don't have new questions in their minds because they already have a lot of information. On the other hand, if new people are seen, when they come to this platform, they have various questions in their mind. It also increases our knowledge when they ask different questions or try to get information.

Therefore, new people should be invited on this platform. This will benefit both new and old members. However, newbies should be informed about all the rules and regulations of this platform.So that they can follow the rules of this platform. Newcomers have interesting topics, new questions and various ideas to improve this platform. You are right that senior members are often busy with signature campaigns, so they can't provide such an interesting atmosphere to the platform while fresh members can make this platform interesting. Bitcoin Farm is great for anyone who wants to learn about Bitcoin and we often ask people to join this platform.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: m2017 on September 12, 2023, 05:10:26 PM
Without newcomers, it is impossible to expand the BTC-community. At least within the forum. Newcomers are like new blood and will update this community. Therefore, my attitude towards inviting newcomers is only positive. If it is possible to do this by inviting friends and acquaintances here, then you can do it. I’m not sure that everyone who came here will stay, but undoubtedly, some of them will become interested in bitcoin and the forum, and will become active users. If you look at the old users, there are not many of them left and others have replaced them. One day, we too will be replaced by newcomers to the forum, and this is how the BTC-community is updated, which allows it to live and exist, so to speak.

In fact, I believe that those who are seriously interested in the bitcoin will come here sooner or later. Thanks to the Internet, there is no mandatory need to promote the forum among your friends and relatives. Those who have taken the path of bitcoiners will come here. It's unavoidable.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Marykeller on September 12, 2023, 06:30:37 PM
Inviting more users to the forum is not an issue, but the issue is that will they stick around in the long run. I have been urging friends of mine to join the bitcointalk forum for a very long time, if only so they can learn more about and be exposed to crypto. What I observed along the way was that many people were uninterested and gave up too soon on learning more about crypto. As you are aware, "inviting someone to join the forum" is not something that should be forced upon a person. The person had to decide on their own whether to join the forum or not. That makes it, the decision to be theirs to make not yours.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Pokapoka124 on September 12, 2023, 07:36:58 PM
Bitcointalk isn’t a platform that would appeal to this Gen Z generation, twitter and TikTok is what they like to spend their time and their online presence is greatly felt in these platforms. I believe majority of the accounts on bitcointalk are owned by people who are over 30years old. I really don’t see the harm in bringing fresh blood to the forum. It’s better to have newbies who were referred by someone than newbies who just found themselves here out of curiosity, I think that would reduce the repeated questions and generic answers we see on threads started by beginners.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Alpha Marine on September 12, 2023, 07:52:48 PM
Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity. Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly. If your friends or family recently learned about bitcoin and want to learn more then invite them to this forum. This forum contains core knowledge about bitcoin. This forum was founded by satoshi himself so to be in this fourm and learn from some legends will be a honor.

You were a newbie at a point on this forum. You didn't just come on here and got to the rank you're in today. I guess you must have made one or two mistakes too and had to learn a lot. Why don't give some other people that chance to make their mistakes and learn.

The forum is designed in a way that people can't cut corners. We all have to put in the work. So a member who doesn't put in the work won't get what he wants.
I agree that a lot of newbies are just here for the earnings, but if that's all they focus on they won't actually earn anything if they don't learn. There are also newbies that don't spam and are actually here to learn so you should just allow time separate the weed from the crops.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 12, 2023, 08:27:26 PM
Many times, I think that not having more newbies here on Bitcoin will actually make the community less active.

Do you want an active forum that's full of spammers or a forum that has little members yet the quality of conversation going on are of quality and interesting to read. The forum don't need newbies if all we'll get are spammers and those who are after glowing their accounts just to participate in signature campaigs. You're not obligated to invite newbies to the forum and you don't owe it to no one to bring them here unless they'll be quality forum users that'll add to the values of the forum. The forum doesn't have to be active just for signature participants to complete their weekly quota, if this is the reason why you're advocating for us to introduce newbie to the forum then you're doing it all wrong. I would prefer not to be correcting people for the same mistakes over and over again.

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk.

I'm not against bringing people to the or against newbies but can't the old members also be the ones to bring about the new ideas. We're part of the evolving species called humans so we can learn new things too (irrespective of the age we're) and bring them to the forum. It isn't only newbies that can bring new ideas. Bringing newbies to the forum has its negative aspect and the positive too therefore lets not act like it's only the positive side that this suggestion has to offer but quality newbies been introduced to the forum will add to the quality of the forum and that'll be highly encouraged.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Agbe on September 12, 2023, 08:55:14 PM
Instead of using newbies on the "TOPIC", I would prefer to use "PEOPLE" because at the outside world when they have not known bitcointalk forum, they don't know what is newbie and it was when they were introduced to the forum that they became to familiar and master the terms in the forum. As for me I was introduced to the forum by  colleague in the National Service place of work. And i was guided, directed to do many things so it was not difficult for me to do somethings though before I understand the forum activities, it took some months. I still learning every day. Those who were shown by friends and family members would have understand the forum more than the people who saw it from social media and google ads. And most of them that were invited to the forum to learn more could not meet up because of different factors. But in all basic knowledge is needed here.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 12, 2023, 09:36:11 PM
~snipped~
But if you tell about money making schemes for sure there's a lot of people will get interested about it but don't hype people for wrong things just let them discover this and only those interested people would provably stay.
You're right about that. That's why they keep losing money because what they invest in, most times, turns out to be Ponzi. I've had people ask me how much they stand to gain if they invested in Bitcoin, making it sound like what those ponzi guys tell them ahead of time to get their attention. How can anyone predetermine what profit to make in cryptos if not that they want to run a ponzi scheme. Bitcoin isn't a get rich quick thing, and they should all know that.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Finestream on September 12, 2023, 09:49:50 PM
For me, that could also pave way to a massive promotion in the future. When everyone else knows about bitcoin, then it will be easier to promote bitcoin globally. But what I mostly see is that in order to correct people particularly newbies from having wrong concepts about bitcoin, at least they should start engaging in the forum so that they will gain the facts and not the lies about bitcoin. So that they will stay well informed about bitcoin and that they will influence others as well to start researching and studying about bitcoin before they decide to jump on investing and trading in the market.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: examplens on September 12, 2023, 10:01:42 PM
To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D


I am NOT against the arrival of new people to this forum, on the contrary, it is always good to see fresh ideas.
But as far as I've noticed, all the newly invited come exclusively because they heard about the possibility of earning money here on the forum. It seems that there is a rather small percentage of newcomers who are not hunters of a higher rank. A higher rank on the forum almost exclusively brings only the possibility of potentially higher earnings in various campaigns.
So, inviting people because of the bounty campaign is not a special benefit for the quality of this forum.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Iroh on September 12, 2023, 10:59:29 PM
I’m inclined to think a good number of people on here found the forum by themselves when trying to do some research or had questions relating to bitcoin. It’s not a bad idea to try and invite new people to join the forum as like the OP noted, they could bring fresh and innovative ideas.

You mentioned that without new topics, it could be quite challenging for signature campaigners to fulfill their weekly task and something about 50% of topics being created by newbies. I fail to understand how challenging it could be as literally anyone could bring forward a topic to be discussed.

You also mentioned how higher ranked members don’t always participate in contests as most are having busy schedules due to their signature campaigns. I don’t think that’s true. Members don’t participate due to various reasons and definitely not cause of having busy schedules due to signature campaigns.

You said it yourself. We can equally tell them about the benefits the forum offers. It’s no surprise why newbies primarily care so much about ranks and less about actually learning something new.






Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: TelolettOm on September 12, 2023, 11:54:11 PM
Many times, I think that not having more newbies here on Bitcoin will actually make the community less active.
So, why do I think it's essential to welcome more newbies to Bitcointalk? The presence of newcomers injects vitality into the community. They bring fresh ideas, add value, and help spread the word about Bitcoin. New members can also play a pivotal role in inviting others and creating engaging discussions.
Do you think a smaller number of newbies will be a serious problem?
I don't think so. This forum never targets to have certain number of members. Even we have no newbies, the activities still last as usual, no serious impact on the forum activities. Each member can bring fresh ideas, it doesn't only come from newbies. Even old members can be more effectively to spread Bitcoin information because they have established knowledge. It is different when newbies spread the Bitcoin information, they can mislead it because of lack of knowledge. Regarding the discussion, most the members involved in discussions constantly are old members. New members sometimes rarely join discussion due to varied reasons.



Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: aysg76 on September 13, 2023, 02:09:25 AM
I think if you are interested in learning new stuff about bitcoin and want to have similar discussions you would automatically find the forum and we are not some business platform that would engage ourselves into some promotions to invite newbies to the platform according to me.I know many of us want forum growth with new members joining but many of them are interested in bounty hunting only and spamming the forum with same threads so it's better to avoid them and still we have huge community with lot of constructive threads and knowledgeable content being shared on daily basis.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: mk4 on September 13, 2023, 02:38:13 AM
It's honestly not that bad, just needs some getting used to.

There's no way any typical layperson would use other bbcode blocks (and don't even get me started on quoting multiple replies) and say "it's honestly that bad". Companies just made platforms like Twitter and Reddit so so idiot-friendly that Bitcointalk would immediately look and feel ancient.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Pingrapole on September 13, 2023, 04:11:46 AM
We should seriously consider bringing in newcomers. You invite those who want to come here, your close relatives and friends If you don't come then they will think of merit first and those who want to run after money will not last because to stay here you have to earn money by working creatively.First you need to know the rules then how to work here then watch it patiently or else you may get hurt.Don't bring people who can betray you bring one day those who will benefit you.In my opinion patient skilled talented and hardworking people should be brought here and only those who want to come.Teach them how they feel about what you should know before they arrive.Get someone who is willing to work on long-form writing, then he is Then Sam will bring you too.

I would like to say that those who are willing to do whatever they want to do or who want to come bring them of their own free will.
I think the new invitation is very important here But bringing them full knowledge here is very important If you don't bring the greedy treacherous money grabbers then you are doomed.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Odohu on September 13, 2023, 08:46:24 AM
Yes you are right that mate nowadays it's hard to invite other people to access on bitcointalk.org cause son of them knows that bitcoin is a scam
Bitcoin is not a scam rather some people think it is. This does not surprise me because it is in the nature of some people to criticise what they don't understand. I have friends who are still waiting for me to cry and regret joining Bitcoin... to them, I'm wasting my time and money on Bitcoin. What I do is to simply avoid such negative people and focus on people who show some level of interest

And some of once they know this forum they will try and register but all of the sudden they will disappear cause they will not totally dedicated to know more in this forum.
If we are honest with ourselves, you will agree with me that the first month is not always easy for a newbie. Knowing how to post in the forum, knowing where to post and trying to make sense are some of the huddles newbies face. The expectations from newbies, as shown by the attitude of some older guys, could be so frustrating for some newbies and not everyone have the courage to endure,  hence, the reason many newcomers run away.

If we could be more patient with newbies, correcting them in love and giving them a sense of belonging, am sure more will stay.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Pablo-wood on September 13, 2023, 08:55:19 AM
Staying relevant on the BTT forum entails a lot of time and research and as such not everyone will want to devote that time to just one forum. Inviting newbies to the forum is not the issue the major concern is how many are willing to stay put to learn, research and make meaningful contributions. Overtime we have battled with issues of spamming and low quality posts and the major reason been that newbies were introduced to the forum with the idea of earning through signatures, bounties, art contest and more so they paid less attention to how much content the contributed to the forum.

The idea of whom to bring to the forum should be prioritised based on the interest of the introduced, The intended member should have interest in learning and self development as regards valid topics shared on the forum before making the move to bringing them onboard so the don't get disappointed at the end of the day or get banned as a result of their own actions.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Vaculin on September 13, 2023, 09:10:30 AM
Bitcointalk forum will never be this huge and productive if it weren’t for newbies that keep entering in the forum to gain adequate knowledge, to share their own opinions and ideas, and to participate in an interactive discussion wherein at the end of the day, they learned from other members as well as other members also learned from them. So without newbies in the forum, bitcointalk will only have a limited scope and will never grow and become more productive. As much as newbies are essential in the forum, thus members who have high experience in the forum and are contributing quality post are also as important as them.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Zoomic on September 13, 2023, 09:27:27 AM
Whenever a topic is created and you take your time to read from the first page of that topic to maybe the 4th or 5th page, you will be so much amazed at how people react to matters. I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty. Yet, the person is a full member and the wearing signature.

Another person said that this forum is not about signature and contest but this same person also in enjoys signature campaign and also join contests, so I am not just understanding the whole thing.
There is no specific thing about the forum but it's about bitcoin and it's about earning and it's about everything,  is about liberty. Allowe people to enjoy the forum while it last.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Dunamisx on September 13, 2023, 10:32:51 AM
Staying relevant on the BTT forum entails a lot of time and research and as such not everyone will want to devote that time to just one forum. Inviting newbies to the forum is not the issue the major concern is how many are willing to stay put to learn, research and make meaningful contributions.

That's true, and also i want to sound this as a reminder to most of us who persist on inviting newbies to the forum and then go ahead in telling them that they could enjoy financial benefits when they join, because lately I've been seing newbies coming to this forum and telling you that they want to make money and not that they are here to learn or give contributions to others about bitcoin, we should let them know that this is a discussion forum, if they think they have the time, courage and patience to go through learning new things, this may be a place for them to stay.

Overtime we have battled with issues of spamming and low quality posts and the major reason been that newbies were introduced to the forum with the idea of earning through signatures, bounties, art contest and more so they paid less attention to how much content the contributed to the forum.

That is why you could see that most of the bounty hunters are the ones that falls under this category except for few among them, this is also one of the reasons they hardly rank up, maybe if they had not been given an impression on making money on the forum, some would have learn to give out their best and those that can't would have left.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: ultrloa on September 13, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
That's often the problem with people. I've invited several others too and almost all of them displayed this same attitude. Just ignore the unserious ones and move on. At the right time they will come asking to be led. Learning is always the hardest part for most people. They don't like to wait for the process. They want to jump the queue and into success with little or no effort at all. Life isn't that way.

Hard to invite people who think that you are just promoting networking scams to them and can't blame them to think about that since government portrays bitcoin as so risky investors. Also other misinterpret this as scam so most likely if they don't know anything about it they will leave especially if they cannot get anything on this or other platform you try to point out on them.

But if you tell about money making schemes for sure there's a lot of people will get interested about it but don't hype people for wrong things just let them discover this and only those interested people would provably stay.

Yes you are right that mate nowadays it's hard to invite other people to access on bitcointalk.org cause son of them knows that bitcoin is a scam so of we introduce them this forum they will say that this forum is is not reliable and they can't earn anything on this forum. And some of once they know this forum they will try and register but all of the sudden they will disappear cause they will not totally dedicated to know more in this forum.

With the new merit system introduce for sure newbie will get bored for trying to became better since most of new people are just there because they was told that money is easy to earn on this forum.  But once they realize how hard to meet the requirements for sure they disappear and find another way to earn. Only those people who has a lot of experience outside which have lot of knowledge will stay its because they are the one who can cope up with discussion and can easily understand that they need to put extra effort to achieve their targets here.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Bushdark on September 13, 2023, 12:11:55 PM
Bitcointalk forum will never be this huge and productive if it weren’t for newbies that keep entering in the forum to gain adequate knowledge, to share their own opinions and ideas, and to participate in an interactive discussion wherein at the end of the day, they learned from other members as well as other members also learned from them. So without newbies in the forum, bitcointalk will only have a limited scope and will never grow and become more productive. As much as newbies are essential in the forum, thus members who have high experience in the forum and are contributing quality post are also as important as them.
Everything is a step and as we keep growing, we member move from being a newbie to a member and from there we keep advancing in knowledge and rank to where we become knowledgeable about the forum and what the crypto market is all about. We join the forum like a toodler and grow to a higher rank. The traffic of the forum keep increasing as old members keep leaving the forum and new ones keep joining making the community very busy and active. Although there are some newbies that tend to be very lazy and not ready to learn looking for who is going to spoon feed them.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 13, 2023, 12:39:11 PM
I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty.

However, there is a special attraction to the signature and bounty campaigns from this forum. perhaps a conversation from a friend asking where to get Bitcoin or where they can get extra money. That's the reality, there are most Bounty hunters or signature campaign participants. Tell family or friends about getting money from forums. and it is interesting for some people to follow it and then register on the forum with the aim of making money. there is no problem with that, everyone on the forum has their own motivation for being on the forum.

the problem is when they invite new people to the forum but don't guide or explain them properly. like a bounty participant who gets small results from the campaign he participates in. Then he gets advice from his friends to create more accounts and you will earn more.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: letteredhub on September 13, 2023, 02:46:15 PM

when inviting someone to Bitcointalk, you should see to it that they understand what it's all about and yes you can equally tell them all the benefits that come with joining Bitcointalk but be sure to inform them about all the rules they have to abide, to so they don't come here and start spamming the forum without understanding the rules.

Apart from the benefit of gaining knowledge I don't think there's any other benefits to expose to someone you're just telling about bitcointalk. This is important so that person have one goal to focus on as he or she register and become a member of the forum which is the goal to broaden his knowledge on bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

Many a newbies have been misled because those that introduced them to the forum put forward some financial benefit's ahead of knowledge and learning regarding the forum.  About the rules, of course it's important to give a preliminary lecture to anyone about the rules guiding the forum so when they come they can get the interest to know more other rules that follows.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Tiger420 on September 13, 2023, 06:29:30 PM
It's very important for newbie to come here because not all newbie actually do the rubbish that all of them are being tagged for. Newbie are the ones who increases the hope of this forum staying longer because every reputable member has all once been a newbie because no one actually skips this part. But as newbie learning about your environment is key because this is what pusshes vou to grow and strive very well here in the forum.

You have written with the right words of inspiration! It's necessary for new members to come to this site, and there is no unhealthy or bad behavior among new members that established members haven't experienced themselves. All important members were newcomers at some point, and no one can skip this phase. You can be an ideal companion for new members on this forum, eager and willing to help.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 13, 2023, 08:27:27 PM
Whenever a topic is created and you take your time to read from the first page of that topic to maybe the 4th or 5th page, you will be so much amazed at how people react to matters. I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty. Yet, the person is a full member and the wearing signature.

Another person said that this forum is not about signature and contest but this same person also in enjoys signature campaign and also join contests, so I am not just understanding the whole thing.
There is no specific thing about the forum but it's about bitcoin and it's about earning and it's about everything,  is about liberty. Allowe people to enjoy the forum while it last.

Nothing lasts forever so the signature campaigns too. ;)

No offense just my guess though, but talking about the opinion of members who contradict their own principles shows most likely they are posting to meet the weekly quota, am I right?

Everyone should begin from scratch, bitcointalk is one hell of a place where you can learn a lot about money, bitcoin, and many other things so if someone has the opportunity then hopefully they will use it wisely. Keeping the traffic coming in is also important for the forum or else it will be left stranded so its a win-win for both parties.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 14, 2023, 01:19:14 AM
Nothing lasts forever so the signature campaigns too. ;)
Signature can be disabled by theymos.
What are everyone's ideas for improving post quality?

I have mostly ruled out:

 - Removing signatures or sig ads globally.

Companies run their marketing here through signature campaigns can shut down their businesses, scam exit, decide to stop their signature campaigns or their companies are seized by governments.

Yes, nothing lasts forever.

I quoted some suddenly ended campaigns.
We've been running our Bitcointalk signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589966.0) for for more than 3 years now starting back in 2016!
However, as of next week our signature campaign will be discontinued.

BTC paid out: BTC106
USD value of BTC paid out: $430,000


A BIG thank you for  yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846) that's been managing it for all this time!
Feel free to use his services @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704638.0 as he comes highly recommended!

A BIG thank you for all the Bitcointalk members that helped us by wearing our Signature/Avatar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.msg13094924#msg13094924)!

Thanks you so much for these 4 years, it's been a great campaign. YOLOdice would not be the same without YOU! Special thanks to Moglie for running the campaign. And perhaps see you next time!!!

Cheers,
Ethan

Chipmixer, Whirlwind.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: ancafe on September 14, 2023, 02:29:52 AM
   As a newbie, you have so many taughts running through your mind, ie "would you rank up or get stucked in a lower rank for long, when next will you earn merits. while doing this, you become so careful creating or interacting with members so you start earning recognition and trust on the community.
If you or a newbie know your level of ability when joining this community then the issue of ranking up is not a difficulty, because there are many people who will judge every time we provide objective and useful thoughts to other people. Bitcointalk is unique and not the same as other platforms because here we will always be corrected when we say something wrong and the discussion base makes many people interested in replying to each other's posts.

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D
There are some people who think so, but there are also many beginners who come with good knowledge, so that when they diligently read the forum rules it can help lead them to a higher ranking. Remember, when we obey the law wherever we are we will definitely be safe and secure, the key to life is trying to be ourselves and not breaking existing rules. Learn something that is easier to understand and discuss it with lots of people in forums through posts then I'm sure we will become more knowledgeable.

There is no obligation for anyone to invite people to the forum and this forum is not like other social media that requires followers. Let them come in their own way so that there is a moral obligation to maintain the forum rules which must not be violated because if they come alone they will automatically find out and read the rules beforehand.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: cafter on September 14, 2023, 02:08:02 PM
Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.

yes, and we don't want that type of people in our forum, because they will ask us questions like this "hello, how can i open account on bitcoincore?", "can i use my phone to post?", what is this captcha and how to remove it?,
some of those have very little knowledge about this kind of online things it's very frustrating to answer their questions and make them understand. I don't know in reality but i shared my experience with this kind of people.

we want to find people like us, they will be found on platforms like we use and interest we share. like watching informational documentary, eager to learn new things, on other opensource projects forums like linux, etc.
so discussion about bitcointalk forum on documentaries like "biography of satoshi nakamoto", "silk road hack", "tor documentary", etc. will attract more like minded people.
even i also come here to look at this forum after watching silk road documentary to see Ross Ulbricht's post.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Dr. Strange on September 14, 2023, 02:32:23 PM
I think this forum (Bitcointalk) is very important to inform the newbies. But most of the newbie members don't know how to move here. They do not know the rules of this forum! So they end before they start. I think all the new members of this forum (forum rules, newbie guidelines, how to make good quality posts) should follow these, then everyone can gain complete knowledge.


Title: Re: The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk
Post by: Sanitough on September 14, 2023, 03:19:23 PM
To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. ;D


I am NOT against the arrival of new people to this forum, on the contrary, it is always good to see fresh ideas.
But as far as I've noticed, all the newly invited come exclusively because they heard about the possibility of earning money here on the forum. It seems that there is a rather small percentage of newcomers who are not hunters of a higher rank. A higher rank on the forum almost exclusively brings only the possibility of potentially higher earnings in various campaigns.
So, inviting people because of the bounty campaign is not a special benefit for the quality of this forum.
It’s hard to ignore the fact that people only come in bitcointalk because of their eagerness to earn profits later on. I must admit I was also one of them way back then but there was a shift of interest when I started to learn deeply from the forum and realized that this forum is more than just a source of profits, since it will also pave way on making you aware about financial management especially if it involves bitcoin. With bitcointalk, there’s actually a lot to learn and it will be an eye opener for those people who have criticized bitcoin in a negative way as most of them have never been part in the forum or have never known the forum that it actually exists.