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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: Little Mouse on September 30, 2023, 05:15:14 AM



Title: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Little Mouse on September 30, 2023, 05:15:14 AM
This thread is created as a reference for a neutral tag. Self-moderated to prevent some of the trolls. I don't have the intention to delete on topic post.

Both users used the same Bitcoin address- bc1qpuv2awuxcan2jzv8r9zdc9f48dsymyw2q4xrdn

User Jocuserious used the address here (https://archive.is/RF7Bt#selection-12415.17-12415.59):
Merit earned in the last 120 days: 5
BTC Segwit addy: bc1qpuv2awuxcan2jzv8r9zdc9f48dsymyw2q4xrdn

User Dessy88 used the address here (https://archive.is/cYyHk#selection-2695.16-2695.58):
Bitcointalk Rank: Full member
Lifetime earned merit: 100
Bech32 address: bc1qpuv2awuxcan2jzv8r9zdc9f48dsymyw2q4xrdn

I'm tagging them as neutral and using this thread as a reference. If you/someone have more proofs, feel free to post them here.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Plaguedeath on September 30, 2023, 05:37:41 AM
Both Jocuserious and Dessy88 were participated in a same campaign 🔴[BOUNTY]KIttieFight 100K KTY Tokens Up for Grabs🔴 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279183.0)

https://imgvb.com/images/2023/09/30/e375ecc9b84b47839c0fb6816b6411e2.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sFatg2tDak_vInolFI8UxxD9hBsAbfrtGbLzA9WKFR8/edit#gid=1126782285

The campaign have a rule to forbid cheating.

GENERAL BOUNTY RULES
• We reserve to eliminate any participants that we find cheating or being dishonest with his/her work.

Both of them deleted their posts in this thread, fortunately their post are recorded by scrapers.

Jocuserious's posts in KIttieFight bounty (https://ninjastic.space/address/0xfB7CC61c52a7b2A7ce6D1EE2C1E2F4d0d51e6a1c)
Dessy88's posts in KIttieFight bounty (https://ninjastic.space/address/0x71AEcf1657611bFd58E3aBf54BE7f48F6F03cF05)

Now they're not only receive neutral feedback due to alt connection, I'm going to tag them using negative feedback because they broke the campaign rule.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on September 30, 2023, 06:40:41 AM
It looks like he has another account; the wallet address on the forum appeared earlier than Dessy88. True, the post itself looks very dubious; it is unclear in what condition the user applied for participation.

No shohag is not alt of Dessy88. Actually he want to copy someone report but mistakenly copied whole thread page which can easily judge by his post as he posted many users weekly report data in own post.

Both user mentioned by Little Mouse applied for Pepemo bounty manage by Julerz which is very strict to alts . I don't why Ninjastic space not showing any results for this address where as Its available in Bitcointalk yet.

https://i.ibb.co/MBv0s1x/Screenshot-7626.jpg


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on September 30, 2023, 06:55:55 AM
Did you take a good look at the dates of the posts? A month difference, does that tell you anything?

Below image clearly show that All this is just copy mistake. He copied even merit, report to moderator, bounty title. he copied more than 7 users data

https://i.ibb.co/QKLBQJF/Screenshot-7642.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/4Wpkvt2/Screenshot-8763.jpg


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: YOSHIE on September 30, 2023, 02:48:22 PM
I'm tagging them as neutral and using this thread as a reference. If you/someone have more proofs, feel free to post them here.
Apart from the same BTC address used by both of them, of course there is other evidence that can be stated that they are both Alt, it can be seen from the reciprocal transactions they use using the Bep-20 address.

For example: other visible evidence.
Post by: Dessy88 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328357.msg56709703#msg56709703)
Quote
Forum Username: Dessy88
Telegram Username: @dessytop
Bep-20 Wallet (Binance smartchain) Address: 0x148ae4f6705C55DF2Cf42b967C98b7b4edBE7E29
[ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/kiKox) ]

Post by: Jocuserious (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328357.msg56709385#msg56709385)
Quote
Forum Username: Jocuserious
Telegram Username: @jocu360
Bep-20 Wallet (Binance smartchain) Address: 0xcAe99d266Cc61412c3B07bF826C611b85aB722D5
[ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/MCQXZ) ]

1. https://bscscan.com/tx/0x57713bc780d0506e8d66c68db2115306d2ebab55d68fa0cc3895dc921151787b
2. https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9dc63c2e6e75b7d43815690ab7cae572da20259dc8fb2f0e14af82ca29ed108b
https://zizihub.com/646182.jpg
https://zizihub.com/c7f047.jpg

I have no doubt they are both the same Alt/person, @Little Mouse, since you are a manager, I think if they are trying to cheat in the campaign you manage, it seems worth making a reference.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Shishir99 on September 30, 2023, 05:07:23 PM
I'm tagging them as neutral and using this thread as a reference. If you/someone have more proofs, feel free to post them here.

Now you have some more evidence that both accounts are handled by the same person. They used the same address, and they have a blockchain connection too. They cheated on some campaigns too. I saw the signature campaign spreadsheet where you asked the user to improve his post quality. I guess now it's time to change your mind and promote him  :D

Blockchain transaction alone cannot prove that account is handled by same person. But when they applied with the same BTC address, it cannot be just a transaction anymore.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: Stalker22 on September 30, 2023, 08:50:13 PM
Cheating in bounty and signature campaigns by using alt accounts:

[BOUNTY] Vave - Crypto Casino and Betting Site | USDT Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465570.0)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/30/PJTGb.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/30/PJEsI.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ax38ckXXWamhanhUJMhQoNam3kIYjNPppqtLUWyUupg/edit#gid=1273986599


[BOUNTY] Pepemo | Meme, AI, Fun! Break the Matrix PepeMo! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459165.0)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/30/PJzbH.png

Both campaigns have a policy against alt accounts and both campaigns are managed by @julerz12.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: FinePoine0 on October 01, 2023, 05:14:39 AM
Jocuserious (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318891)

Address and profile link Same

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/01/PV5uI.jpeg

Source By: https://ninjastic.space/post/53988494


wtfguys (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2014553)

Address and profile link Same

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/01/PV7Nd.jpeg
Source By: https://ninjastic.space/post/55331821

Jocuserious To wtfguys Same user
 




Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2023, 05:41:07 AM
Additionally, this account seems to have changed hands between Dec 2017 and Apr 2018. The posting style of its owner went from educated crypto investor to total shitposter. They managed to last quite a while before being found out.

Old owner:

Yeah.  Cryptsy is the problem, not SILK. There is an interesting theory on reddit that suggests that Vern lost a lot of BTC and is trying to get it back by creating arb situations with alts (that's why the prices are a bit different/higher over there).  

Pretty much, I would avoid trading there unless you want difficulty withdrawing.  Limiting withdrawals allows them to retain the illusion of liquidity while they try to make it back.  

New owner:

Definitely right now, Bitcoin will never scam.bitcoin is a real still king of currency.

This theory is supported by BPIP:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/01/PVF6w.png (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=318891)

I'm not going hunting for more alts but am tagging this account and the previously connected alts.


Title: Re: Reference thread: Jocuserious is alt of Dessy88
Post by: SmartGold01 on October 01, 2023, 11:52:35 AM
I'm tagging them as neutral and using this thread as a reference. If you/someone have more proofs, feel free to post them here.

The same address used in participating in a campaign already showed the prove and there is nothing to stress much about it, from the evidence provided by some few users he has been in found of using both accounts to participate in a same campaign which all the campaign prohibited that action.

I am also gonna leave my feedback on that account and from my judgement redtag is what those accounts deserves. Nevertheless, from few post I have came across here said having Alt is not prohibited but using them to cheat in a particular campaign is highly prohibited or if one account is ban then the rest are not permitted to operate.