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Looking for the Bitcoin Only Wallet. If you have a spare you wanna sell please send me a PM.

Thanks!

https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3

You asked for a bitcoin only hardware wallet, I posted about one (that was on topic) because it was a “bitcoin only wallet” and you delete my comment ?  Lol

   Howdy....No idea what you are talking about as I do not have a self moderated thread....so no..I did not delete you comment bro.

   By the way, which one did you post about? I collect all types of wallets, and I just store em away. I have almost every edition of Trezor...shame on me for not buying, but I didn't realize it was a limited edition. I am kicking myself in the ass  :P

Oh man…i am having the same regret. Had one in my cart and about to ckout and then thought to myself… “meh, i will just by it later”.  🤦🏻‍♂️

How much are you willing to pay for Trezor Safe 3 BTC edition?

That’s weird, I thought it didn’t make sense , here is a copy n paste from the email I got that says what happens and at the bottom shows what my post said

“ A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.”

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have you tried the JADE Hardware wallet that is bitcoin only?  its built by Blockstream and its amazing, allows for air gap signing/transactions

you could buy one of the other colors and load the bitcoin only software to it.

I thought it was kind of a turn off that they only offered it in the original model, and they didn’t offer bitcoin. Only on the Trezor T


The JADE is badass complete open source :

Link:  https://blockstream.com/jade/

   That is crazy...why would that post be removed?  Please ask a Mod as I would love to see what the reason was behind that removal. There was nothing wrong with that post and if anything it was a great post.  Thanks!

   Aye..that is a good wallet...have had my eye on it for awhile and if I am not mistaken that is Adam Back's company.

Yep, you are right. He is the CEO of Blockstream.

To the jade wallet: Pretty nice wallet and the only one besides the Coldcard Mk4 which offers air-gapped transactions via camera.
In contrast to the ledger it is also fully open source and the price/performance ratio is simply right here. Would recommend this wallet as an alternative.

@krogothmanhattan the jade hw-wallet is definitely worth considering. if i were you, i would look into it a bit more before or as long as you haven't received a trezor 3 offer.
there is also a separate thread about the jade wallet: Jade DIY hardware wallet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454770.0)
there you can find more info and answers to your questions ;)

could also make / buy a seed signer - works just as good or better than the jade.

Seedsigner is the best Bitcoin signing device out there. Full stop.

  Thankyou to all for the inputs...I mostly buy these as collectables as well. I am mainly a Trezor and paper wallet kind of guy.  Thanks for all the feedback ye all!

And 3d print orange case to look similar to original Trezor 3 limited edition.
Currently I can only find official .stl files for model One and T, but I am sure unofficial files will be released soon.
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-hardware/tree/master/case

OP if you are looking for other bitcoin-only hardware wallets you can check thebitcoinhole.com, than in Firmware filters select bitcoin-only.

Found someone on their subreddit who changed his/her mind after ordering the Bitcoin-only version of the Trezor Safe 3, so if you have no issues entering into a bidding war with a few users, you can contact @genfre (https://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/comments/179rco2/can_i_return_my_safe_3/k5dh3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).

   Thanks for sharing...I can imagine what this person will ask for it if too many people go after it. Not willing to pay stupid prices...if he does ask for that kind of price, rather keep my Sats  ;)

Hey krogoth, if you are interested in collectibles shaped as wallets, I have a Ledger Nano X branded by Betnomi. I won 3 such wallets at their raffles but I don't need all 3. If you want to see some pictures you can do it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277804.msg62049743#msg62049743). The wallet from those images is unsealed, but I am talking here about one which is sealed.

I used the unsealed wallet to check its hardware integrity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461815.msg62694410#msg62694410) and the result was that the wallet is not tampered.

If you are interested, please let me know.

  Hi Gazeta....Thanks for reaching out....but will need to pass as I might have one stored somewhere. I really lost track of what I have and don't thru the years. I guess I need to find the time to dig thru my stuff. Also ledger kinda left a bad taste in my mouth when the announced their idea of storing the private keys as well. And yes, I know I will not be using it ever but that idea they came out to offer has stained them in my eyes.

   But thanks again regardless.

No worry, I fully understand your point. I also keep my Ledger only as a collectible... I was thinking to raffle the other one but, if I get the chance to make a deal with someone without the raffle I won't say no to that :) This is why I made the suggestion.

Nevertheless, I understand your position. If you will change your mind, please let me know :)

Trezor > Ledger from a UX and software perspective, by a mile

To be fair:
Any wallet that uses open-source firmware is > Ledger.

I wouldn't recommend a Ledger Hardware Wallet at any time. They finally dug their own grave with their announcement in May with 'Ledger Recovery'.
But I'm glad to see that more and more users are paying attention and switching to other hardware wallets. Wheter its Trezor, Bitbox, Seed signer or even Jade from Blockstream, which we have already talked about.
Luckily enough there are now enough alternatives to fall back on.

  Gotta agree...always a Trezor man here for cold storage besides my trusted paper wallets that is.

    As for cell phone hot wallet, Mycellium has always been my favorite

A raffle might be a good idea if you have an extra. I don't think if you ever raffled anything.

I recently heard something bad about a hardware wallet, can't remember which one or where. Was it about Ledger? :)

This is correct, I never raffled anything. However, I co-sponsored (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.msg61520092#msg61520092) some raffles (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438593).


Most likely, yes. This is also mentioned at  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470721.msg63037686#msg63037686) and post #24 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470721.msg63037969#msg63037969).

Sorry for slightly OP, but I have to jump on the Ledger-bashing-train.
I had a bunch of negeative experiences over the last almost decade now with their devices.
Right now I can only say I hate Ledger and here is why:
- discontinued hardware support for older devices (buy the new one - money grab company)
- data leak exposing all customer data including phone numbers, full name, address etc. From a company supposed to provide crypto security. UGH
- horrible experience with their ledger nano app: balances were displayed as missing or completely wrong (I was a multimillionaire on paper for a few minutes, too, lol). - Only fully resetting with the passphrase worked - how tf is that a secure device?
- They have their "back-up" backdoor upgrade which is highly debateable and mostly frowned upon by any security experts in the crypto space.


That said I have had a good time with the Trezor line and looking forward to try the new Version 3.
I have a %-OFF voucher, not sure if it only works for one device or if I can buy several. If anyone is interested in a Trezor 3 for quite a few % off, send me PM I will try tomorrow if it works for more than one item.
@krogothmanhattan If you still need one send me a PM.

   Couldnt agree more with ya on this....I am a Trezor man thru and thru. Thanks for the offer but I already ordered the Trezor 3.  :D

If you guys really want to up your security to the next level there are much better options than Trezor that are also FOSS:

Foundation Devices Passport
Blockstream Jade
SeedSigner

Even Coldcard is better, even though their codebase is "source verifiable" which is technically not FOSS.

Trezor is super solid don't get me wrong. I love them and still recommend that hardware wallet to newbies that are taking self-custody for the first time, but if you have been in Bitcoin for awhile, the next level is a must IMO.

Having a device that never touches the internet and generates your private key completely offline is just another layer of security that I wouldn't pass up.

Cool devices you mentioned, do you have any experience with any of them? Blockstream Jade seems like great value for the buck. - However it has a built-in camera and bluetooth which I am not sure if it isn't a security concern.


@krogothmanhattan Do you already have the Tresor 3 in hand? What's your experience in comparison to Model 1?

Hey Kryptowerk,

I have experiences with all the devices I listed and overall the best experience I have had is with SeedSigner. You can building a SeedSigner yourself using a Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 (which has no WiFi or Bluetooth capability).

The reason why SeedSigner is so great is because you can build it from off the shelf parts and not have to worry about any supply-chain attacks that might occur with Trezor or any hardware wallet companies. When you build a signing device yourself you are not on any email lists and no one could know you are involved with Bitcoin because Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3's are used for so much more. The cost of building one is $30-40.

SeedSigner is also the easiest device to use to learn about Multi-Signature wallets.

I highly suggest everyone check them out on twitter @SeedSigner.

I can also say that i have used these devices as well - my favorites are the seed signer then the passport - Jade I did like but I recently heard that Blockstream may have had a huge customer data breach.

I have built numerous seedsigners as well - great devices.

   I have yet to receive mine and to be honest I will leave in package as it is for part of my collection of wallets

Thanks for your insights both, MoparMiningLLC & BTCOVERFIATS
How long do you estimate it took you to build a seeddesigner the first time? Did you have previous raspberry Pi experience?
I'd like to give it a try but another side project with 15h+ of work time is just not something I can fit in right now - it's why I am asking...

I don't have a ton of technical experience and it took me an hour to building my SeedSigner. It's not hard at all

this is how i do my cold storage. simple and and secure and cheaper than any hardware wallet which is really just another possible point of failure.

I use hardware or hotwallets as just that - a hot wallet to use/spend and never to store.

To be honest... Multi-Signature vaults are the only way to truly mitigate single points of failure.

Having a 2 of 3 multi-sig setup with 3 different air-gapped hardware wallets from 3 different vendors in your multi-sig quorum is the way to go.

Make sure you generate your private key using your own entropy from real physical world randomness. For example, rolling dice, flipping coins, shuffling a deck of cards, and the list goes on....

Never trust your devices RNG, it's hard to prove if they are truly random.

  Some interesting data on how random a coin toss is on this article....

   https://www.iflscience.com/coin-tosses-are-not-5050-scientists-toss-350757-coins-and-prove-old-theory-71047 (https://www.iflscience.com/coin-tosses-are-not-5050-scientists-toss-350757-coins-and-prove-old-theory-71047)

I dont like multi-sig - Just makes it to where others can collude and steal my funds - no thanks. I have my main wallet backed up to an encrypted drive and in other ways. If something happens to me, my wife will be made aware and be able to recover, if something happens to both of us, our children will be made aware. But there is no way in hell I am giving anyone the keys (partial keys) to be able to take my funds while I am alive.

as for the RNG - I agree - do not trust any device for that.

I have seen some of these arriving to people now. I am interested in purchasing one of the Orange Bitcoin only versions if anyone has an extra. I have the other versions, just looking for the limited Orange one. Thanks
Geophphreigh

Hi geophphreigh

I have an original Trezor Safe 3 Bitcoin only version on offer, see my auction on eBay classifieds (Germany). Check out the other auctions too :-)

Shipping starts in Germany.

copy the Link

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/trezor-safe-3-bitcoin-only-edition-orange-seedphrase-metall/2635217293-234-23812

Mission accomplished.....Thanks for all who sent me info and offers for me to buy.

Closing out thread....cheers!