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Long story short:

A friend of mine mined a lot of Pi coin . So he asked me to hel him to sold them. I posted some request on Bitcointalk.org. I got in touch with user Support@web3devs , that proposed me 24,63 USD per PI coin, so after some message, my friend sent him 100 Pi coin Support@web3devs. For payement ask to nuyer to send amount in bitcoin to my staked address, but nothing happen and now i decided to opend a scam accusation due the fact that the user opened various post about his service of developer (so this would be a real warning about deal with him).

Please DT1/2 Tag him.




Scammer Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3312083
Telegram: @web3devs
Skype: https://join.skype.com/invite/u71BjLhA2YfZ
Marketplace Tread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334002.msg62975817#msg62975817

Amount SCammed: 100 pi coin or 2463 USD
Proof:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RB1JT.png
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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RB49W.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RB7XJ.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RBo3m.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RBhS1.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RB9zC.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/RBBcb.png

Wow, it’s quite surprising that a snr rank member would make the mistake of engaging in a risky trade with a newbie account without using an escrow.

From $25 to $24.6 shows that he does not want to put any doubt in your mind, normally he would have bargained for the price to go down more since the official price and your selling price is too different but he just accepted it and I guess the total amount got you that you didn’t even bother to check the authenticity of his account. But what is done is done, even if he receives a thousand negative feedbacks it will do him zero harm as the account in question is a newbie account and he can create a new one at anytime and continue his business again.

The unofficial price of PI is around 0.3$ ,Now you can easily detect scammer when he gives you huge high price then market. I feel sorry for your friend loss but I will also blame you because you are old user of this forum then how you trust newbie without any escrow.

You should also create flag and add links, I will support flag. furthermore you should also gives negative, no matter you are DT or not. The lesson I learned from seniors.

What is your relationship with Irsada?

https://i.ibb.co/gDsMjjm/Screenshot-77765.jpg

Yes. I Was little stupid. But 100 pi coin are about  wortless (can't be sold or trasnefered to exchenge, only p2p exchenge). My friend didn't lose anything at the end,  but at least we well find out a scammer.

You are right: he scammed for less than 30 usdt. Really poor guy.

Are there any scam elements here at all?
Someone didn't pay for a worthless coin, which is just some number in some app. In the same way, user Support@web3devs can open scam accusations, because someone offered him junk for $25 per unit.

You yourself claim that Pi is worthless, yet here you open a scam accusation for the amount of $2463.

No, It's not exactly as you say. Pi coin is listed on some platforms, but its deposits are suspended https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pinetwork/. The price on these platforms is around 38 USD. But in P2P exchanges I have seen that the prices are much lower.

The scammer contacted me and offered $25 per PI coin. If you read the conversation you can clearly understand how things went.

Edit: my opinion about PI coin does't change. Is worthless and is a scam coin (it require Full Kyc for be able to exchange it!!!)

That should've been a red flag when the asking price was so high and that they don't mind to pay for a coin that can't be withdrawn, and it's weird that Pi Coin still exists because my friends have warned me about that coin a long time ago and they're laughing at people that are promoting this coin. Either way, the scammer didn't really profited that much out of this scam, 30$ worth of Pi Coins is just a pathetic scam, might as well just return that coin, other scammers are probably laughing at that scammer right now. I feel bad for that scammer a little bit, sold his soul for 30$, that's not even enough to pay rent lmao.

Seems like you learned the lesson already, so not much to say in that regard.

I have supported your flag and added my own tag.

For anybody who wonders why I would believe this screenshot evidence of a scam and not others, the main reason is HedgeFX has bothered to build a reputation here for himself over the years, whereas Support@web3devs has not.


Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears Support@web3devs offered the $25 first.

Thank you Nutildah.  

As wrote, PI aren’t mine. My friend decided to sent so I helped him. Decision to sent was made by him.

Edit: Also hope this post could be a real warning about this kind of shit-coin.

Yep, this is a scam perpetrated by web3devs despite the Picoin price is not being generally agreed upon, op's friend literally has lost the 100 unit.

He couldn't, it was the seller and buyer's final agreement price which the scammer apparently had a reference for.

It is sad to see unethical people illegally stealing people’s currencies and money. Unfortunately, they are widely spread on the forum and in PI buying and selling groups, and what has allowed them to continue their scams is that the PI coin has not yet been traded on any of the exchange platforms so far, so there is an obstacle for those who hold this shitcoin and wish to sell it after months and years of fake mining. However, a trustworthy escrow service provided by a reliable middleman will solve this issue without the seller entering into deals for Newbies members who have not yet built a reputation on the forum.

Thank you for this warning, and I hope this loss will also be a turning point for your friend to stop wasting his precious time mining and collecting this worthless currency and looking for investment in other good currencies.

Supported the flag this will stop this scammer from further harming this community HedgeFX could have imposed his reputation and rank and just guaranty the deal on behalf of his friend by asking the buyer to send first, between the three of them HedgeFX has a good reputation and will likely lose a lot if he did not do his part of guaranteeing the deal.

There are no deposits or withdrawals, which means that the information is completely irrelevant.
Otherwise, it is a fake Pi coin. An incredible thing happened, someone faked the Pi, the mainnet, made a short hype and left with the money. You can read more about here (https://twitter.com/PiCoreTeam/status/1608907781746360320)

I'm honestly surprised that you got involved in mediation in this kind of deal at all, you seem like an experienced user.


Yes, you're right.
Likewise, the conversation started with the total asked sum of 55700 USDT  ???, via "how do you want to pay" to $1.2 per coin. After that, the buyer agrees to buy only 100 coins instead of 2288 coins for about the same money. This whole trade seems like a joke.

Supported the Flag, however the money seems sadly long gone.

From your side, you are right But my friend is not competent in cryptocurrency matters. He finds these coins because he mined them from his cell phone , he ask my support. Consider that coin aren't mine and my friend decided to take this risk (he have about 3000 PI , and another friend have about 6.000 PI).

From my side consider that as i wrote my opinion doesn't change abou PI: 100% scam. Just consider that I would never mine a coin that asks me for KYC verification, But my friends did it, even though I warned them!  

It is interesting that user Support@web3devs, around the time when you created this scam accusations, reacted by leaving a negative tag on user irsada. Accusing him of the same thing, 100 Pi coins. I'm really interested in what his explanation is, what happened here.

If look at the screenshot on telegram he posted the link of irsada profile , but when I ask why (?) he didn’t reply me.
Also irsada is tagged as sold account , so is quite possible that they are the same person

You're the one at fault, why will you refer someone to another person without you having the trust in them, this buyer you're talking about is not that you know him in person, had a successful deal with him in the past, or is even a reputable member of the community being recognized and trusted, yet you make a recommendation to your friend to send him pi and no one is standing in gap of an escrow provider between you both, another thing is the fact that pi is still worth zero dollars till now, i don't think someone can accept the offer of buying at that rate you mentioned if not for scam as you've just had it.

You are wrong.

My friend decided to take the risk.  I warned him about the potential risk scam and of loss.
If you do some research you will see how there are several fake pages that speak well of PI.
My friend is totally new to this world, and like all newbies he makes a lot of mistakes. He doesn't even have a bicoin wallet, just as he has never exchanged any cryptocurrency. It's really difficult to make some people understand how many risks there are in this world: He continues to believe that the price of PI is the one shown on coinmarketcap.
And unfortunately the thing that makes me angry is that despite me clearly telling him to be careful, he is continuing to undermine PI from his smartphone.
I think there are many people like him.

UPDATE:
I was contacted via PM by user inanilujimi ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=825076 ) that proposed me to buy PI at 0,24$. I made a research and see that inanilujimi is an alt of irsada (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051790) connected to Maxre account: irsada is the tagged as sold account accused by Support@web3devs of scam him for 100 PI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3312083).

I think this 3 account are connected . Also Support@web3devs never replied me here or on telegram for say "Sorry brò, i was scammed from another usere when i try to resell PI". He only run away....

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/20/TaReD.jpeg

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/20/TatGf.jpeg

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/20/TazyZ.jpeg

To be a worthless shitcoin these PI are a scammers magnet  :D.
All in all not so worthless  : they allowed us to spot three more scammers on this forum....or better say three accounts of the same cheap scammer.

Hey bro
My intentions are good, I just want to buy.
and for that, if you don't want to, just say no.
don't have too much drama.
1 more, this account has never been linked to any account.
Honestly, I copied it wrong at that time.
but never mind.
people here are too strange and there is a lot of drama.

That's not true. One of your neutral feedbacks has a link that references a connection to Maxre:


Maxre has been connected to irsada:


Both accounts have been previously red trusted.

In addition, on the ETH side of things, this address (https://etherscan.io/address/0x0bd39d50c7037fc32d853eaf56712c5041c2515f) has deposits from inanilujimi, irsada, and Maxre, which pretty much seals that they are alt accounts.

Same thing can be seen here (https://etherscan.io/address/0x26970560b7f0e12741477859f153031907eee87d):

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/21/TwJoC.png

There are two other accounts also making deposits to this address, zeingrind777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1058576) and Andreas_bakunin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1201163), who share the same address (https://ninjastic.space/address/0x43a45542bb18da553e71ede003ea8beb320293e8).



zeingrind777 is already banned.

So if I send ETH or BTC to your address does that mean we are the same person??


I don't want to have any arguments with people who make baseless accusations. If it appears that I am cheating in a campaign, such as registering two accounts in one campaign, I can accept it.
You have tagged this ETH transaction as tag negative.

You obviously missed the whole first part. You used the same Telegram handle as Maxre, and Maxre used the same Bitcoin address as irsada. That's all the proof that is required to link you to irsada.

irsada trust:


The blockchain evidence serves to help confirm that these are indeed your alt accounts.

Prove it if you accuse me of being a scammer??
How much money have I cheated?
You accuse me without taking a penny of people's money.
it's beyond reason.

Mathematics can help to explain:

If

You = Irsada 
Irsada = Scammed100 Pi

Then

You = Irsada 
Irsada = Scammed 100 Pi

So

You = Scammed 100 pi

To hard to understand?

I had to go back a while to find this, but you enrolled all 3 of these accounts into the OYSTER bounty:




https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/22/Tn70J.png
 (https://etherscan.io/address/0x82509fbf85a32a1890a45344f3aa772b09e78c8f#tokentxns)
Meanwhile per campaign rules:


You did the same thing with SmartBillions and Verify bounties.

You have also sent merits to yourself on a couple of different occasions:

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Maxre&to=irsada
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=inanilujimi&from=irsada

So, you're a bounty cheater and are sending yourself merits, in addition to the scammer allegations. I wouldn't be surprised if you have several other alt accounts, in addition to the ones I named in a previous post, but I won't be tagging those for now.