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Title: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Davicious on October 23, 2023, 01:13:14 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 23, 2023, 01:24:21 PM
I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: shield132 on October 23, 2023, 01:33:45 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Casinos hire streamers to gamble on their website and stream it. Usually, these fake streamers gamble with a lot of money that casino credits to them. Their duty is to express their emotions during gambling, to show anger when they lose and break keyboard and do some shit in order to make video go viral and collect many views. They have to be super happy and express happiness when they win. They have to look like real, genuine gamblers with genuine and heightened emotions.
Think about it, these streamers create their channel in order to earn money, otherwise they wouldn't create channel. So, they earn money from youtube streams, donations, merch and also earn wage from casinos for playing on their website. Their streams are usually done very professionally. Definitely all of these streamers are fake. Watch them only for fun, never believe to their winnings and loses, they sometimes fake it to attract new customers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: dimonstration on October 23, 2023, 01:47:55 PM
It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

I’m not sure what this article trying to point out because the author is assuming that streamers should use real money to be called as legit streamer while a simple streaming of gambling even using a play money can be called a legit streamer because they are streaming. They are not faking their stream and it’s up to the viewers if they will took seriously what the streamer saying.

Streaming is very popular which casino partners them to promote their brand by playing on the website regardless if play money use. Streaming is a form of advertisement. It’s dumb to call the stream fake or misleading while they are just streaming for content purposes.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Porfirii on October 23, 2023, 01:48:10 PM
Well, we could pose the same question about singers, advisors... why are some of them so popular, when they are not the best in their respective fields? we are witnessing a new era, or maybe it's just that now we see more clearly what has always happened, but in a ridiculously exaggerated way. Fake artists and experts are on top of the industry simply because they've been put there.

The reason why they are so popular is, imo, a very well elaborated plan and design by their sponsors, and effective execution thanks to the resources that they have available. It's sad that many good professionals will desist early because the rules of the game are not the same for everyone.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Yogee on October 23, 2023, 01:48:51 PM
I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.
I can understand the ignorance on Twitch gambling streams but Kick? I mean the latter was basically backed by an online casino owner. Some even argue that Kick started when Twitch started banning streamers promoting online casinos last year.

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Why such streamers are very popular?
It seems a lot of people have plenty of time in their hands so they watch these content creators and streamers. Maybe you can blame the change in lifestyle due to the advancement of technology. More people staying in their couch or room while watching streams and playing video games all day.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Wiwo on October 23, 2023, 02:00:36 PM
I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.
Yeah I have known you for that and that has helped to stop so many things from going wrong because of trust and other issues,  streamers just like ambassadors or influencers,  they are all paid to do that job and in most cases, their games are doctored just to produce good result all to lure gullible set of gamblers into believing that they perform some form of really games session.

Of a truth,  I never believe or watch any of those influencers because I already know what their aims are and how some of them have promoted proven scams in recent times.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: AbuBhakar on October 23, 2023, 02:15:13 PM
The reason why they are so popular is, imo, a very well elaborated plan and design by their sponsors, and effective execution thanks to the resources that they have available. It's sad that many good professionals will desist early because the rules of the game are not the same for everyone.

Most of the streamer nowadays are just good on shouting and swearing to attract viewers. This is what the society wants to watch since they can express what they really want without censoring their content. This is the problem on mainstream media which there’s no control on the content unlike TV program and movie which being screen first before broadcast to the public.

The first batch of streaming which is the casting is much doesn’t rather this current social media that has zero content and 100% garbage swearing especially on gambling.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: dothebeats on October 23, 2023, 02:19:30 PM
Just know that these streamers stream the game because they are getting something from it by doing so. Especially in online casino streamers, there's no reason to stream your degeneracy if you're not gaining something from it. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt, and do not be tempted by the wins that these streamers are getting on their account. They sometimes have boosted rates which do not apply with the regular account.

If you need to learn something from a casino, especially its games, fairness, and overall experience for users, seek out reputable review sites or this forum and see whether someone has already played on there.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: so98nn on October 23, 2023, 02:23:04 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Yes because they are there to earn money for themselves and nothing else. It's like a fake YouTube university and I mention this in every post of mine where peeps think that they can actually gain pretty awesome knowledge from such YouTube channels, Twitch streamers and basically anything gets published on social media.

They show you what you want to see, they don't show you what can demoralize you. The simple solution is to avoid such channels and never try to gain any motivating experience from the online streaming sites.

You can watch the streams but only from the reputed casinos themselves. If you gonna fall for the individual infamous channels then man, you never know what green screen effects they are displaying to us.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 23, 2023, 02:23:38 PM
I think that most streamers don't really play gambling; instead, what they really do is promote gambling or casinos because they get paid because of the number of followers they have. And often, the fake accounts that they always win in their livestreams are actually just dummy accounts.

And they are also paid a lot, to be honest, for every time they promote a casino in their video. It's around 200-300 dollars; if you only promote five of their casinos in a week, you have 1000 dollars that are ringing; it's easy money for them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: 348Judah on October 23, 2023, 02:31:46 PM
We all have our choice to take, if we are going by the streamers offer or what we are personally convinced about, we kmow that these people were also paid to do what they offers, why should we take everything so serious from what we come across on the internet when everyone is just behaving to suite their own personal purpose or interest, on the internet, you will not only make discovery about the streamers alone, there are many other categories to discover.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 23, 2023, 02:32:14 PM
Streamers are just like motivational speakers and writers who are only good telling you what is the things to do to get a result and make all the challenges to the result look easy to go over. They are like the economist postulating all the theories but in practical they don't add up to the realities.

Streamers are mostly interested on how much they can burst your head and make you dream big for a jackpot while they are growing their followership. I don't give my time to such even if I watch them I don't follow anything I watch there .


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: coin-investor on October 23, 2023, 02:42:43 PM


The reason why they are so popular is, imo, a very well elaborated plan and design by their sponsors, and effective execution thanks to the resources that they have available. It's sad that many good professionals will desist early because the rules of the game are not the same for everyone.


There are big of money to be made from casino streaming so there are well-coordinated and elaborated plans to make things look real, It is already an open secret among old-timers here in the industry, we all know casinos pay people who will give them the most players and people love to watch live streams.

I'm not a fan of streamers, I already know that they are fake streamers before watching one and they are so good in their acting it's well-rehearsed and if you don't know the truth about this stuff you will end up saying, I need to play in that casino I could win that big amount or maybe even more.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: ultrloa on October 23, 2023, 02:53:53 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

As far as I know twitch ban those gambling livestream, but I don't know if there's a changes happen there. But those streamers became famous since they put an impression to new gamblers or to those people watching their stream that its easy for them to earn a lot of money thru gambling that's why they create an impression to few people that they became rich just because of gambling they stream. Don't know how that article define but for us watchers maybe we should ignore what those people trying to show us and let just be entertained on them for streaming but if they say something that we need to follow then its better for us to use our brain and never get ourselves got caught up by the any words they say.

We should play according to our will and to the style we develop thru experience since those streamers are doing that activities just for the sake of their own profits.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: noormcs5 on October 23, 2023, 03:08:49 PM

I’m not sure what this article trying to point out because the author is assuming that streamers should use real money to be called as legit streamers while a simple streaming of gambling even using play money can be called a legit streamer because they are streaming. They are not faking their stream and it’s up to the viewers if they will take seriously what the streamer saying.

So they mean that the streamers should use their own personal money to gamble and stream and not use the play money? What could be the intention of this wish? They want the streamer to lose his own money too which streaming for the viewers? This is just a strange wish by the author of that article.

I would just say one thing if the streamers are producing fake streams, still they are popular, meaning that people are happy seeing those streams and they like the content which is produced by those streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Vaskiy on October 23, 2023, 03:12:26 PM
Everything is business, as the competence increases different way of marketing tricks were used. Initially it was all about the good things shared by the fellow users making others use the platform for their need. Now things were different, as the competence had risen the prime thing focused is to tempt the people and attract towards their service. This is being done by the streamers. With each and everything we go across the feedback before signing to use the platform. With gambling we need to be extra cautious, if not this is going to cost big.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 23, 2023, 03:13:07 PM
I am an experienced gambler, but i hardly pay or give any attention to casino streamers as i personally have come to believe that most of the stuff they show their viewers is nothing but make believe. And talking about fake streamers, i am totally not surprised, for casino streaming is a very big business, the streaming industry is worth billions of dollars if not trillions, so anybody out there with the ability to acquire the required instruments needed to join the streaming business will do so without hesitation, since it's a business that could potentially change the life of the streamer at any point in time.

Personally, I've not actually gone through the article but i will not immediately tag the kind of streamers op is talking about as fake, they are just probably new to the industry and not with much or the required or professional experience yet, i believe with time, as they gain more experience, they could become better and possibly earn the sponsorship they are gunning after.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: un_rank on October 23, 2023, 03:21:18 PM
Streamers will do what they can to attract viewers and casino houses will do what they can to attract customers.

This means some streamers do it cause it is a trend and the market of casino players is large increasing their potential viewers and some are paid directly by the websites for promotion.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Solosanz on October 23, 2023, 03:31:38 PM
If they're not fake, they will not get a lot traffic. What's the point of run a marketing strategy, but the company isn't get anything?

Similar like beautiful girl and handsome men post in social media, they will use make up and photo filter to make them looks more beautiful/handsome. If you're not good looking, you're either get criticism and not popular.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: uneng on October 23, 2023, 03:57:50 PM
Why are they so popular? Well, maybe because the public thinks they are legit and get hyped by the fact they are betting so much money. People are always desiring a lifestyle they can't have on the currently moment. Those streamers become the personification of what the public wants to be, because they are symbols of an easy life where money is easily acquired on the comfort of their homes and there are no difficulties: if you lose, you just play higher and higher sums of money until you profit. That is the dream of many of us here, but unreachable for real...

When people conclude they are being deceived by those streamers, the tendency is that traffic decreases and they lose relevance on long term. That is when casinos have to figure out a new and efficient marketing model to replace the old one.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: 3kpk3 on October 23, 2023, 04:37:22 PM
They were already popular to begin with which is why casinos hire them to take advantage of their popularity and their fans while the streamers earn good money for having fun. It's a win-win situation basically.

The idea is to draw viewers in by showing these streamers win big which gives them hope and that's all the casinos need to fill up their coffers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hispo on October 23, 2023, 04:52:24 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Casinos hire streamers to gamble on their website and stream it. Usually, these fake streamers gamble with a lot of money that casino credits to them. Their duty is to express their emotions during gambling, to show anger when they lose and break keyboard and do some shit in order to make video go viral and collect many views. They have to be super happy and express happiness when they win. They have to look like real, genuine gamblers with genuine and heightened emotions.
Think about it, these streamers create their channel in order to earn money, otherwise they wouldn't create channel. So, they earn money from youtube streams, donations, merch and also earn wage from casinos for playing on their website. Their streams are usually done very professionally. Definitely all of these streamers are fake. Watch them only for fun, never believe to their winnings and loses, they sometimes fake it to attract new customers.

So they are basically actors and actresses, for the sake of advertisement. I see.
I had not thought on the possibility of some streamers actually faking their wins and losses in order to attract people, over exaggerating their reactions to go viral. But it makes sense, in some degree. Was not that way small YouTubers started to become well known in the early days?
They recorded themselves playing horror games and whenever there was a jump scare, they kind of exaggerated their fear and entertained their growing audience.

I do not know to wait extent this is fair play, it may depend on whom one asks...


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 23, 2023, 04:56:32 PM
They were already popular to begin with which is why casinos hire them to take advantage of their popularity and their fans while the streamers earn good money for having fun. It's a win-win situation basically.

The idea is to draw viewers in by showing these streamers win big which gives them hope and that's all the casinos need to fill up their coffers.

i believe this scenario is not new anymore. some casinos are already doing this long time. but if the casino is decent enough, they don't need to hire fake streamers just to attract some players on their platform. this is why new players should be very careful in taking the bait from what they are seeing online. not all streams are actually legit, most of them are just being paid by the casino they are promoting with.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: SamReomo on October 23, 2023, 04:59:33 PM
Ah, that's the harsh truth which we can't ignore and we can't even do anything to stop those fake streamers because platforms like Twitch allow them to fool out the users and they really don't care much about the users who lose a lot of money when they view the videos of such streamers. These social media influencers and streamers are known for their negative psychological mindset and they know the art of manipulating the viewers who trust those corrupt influencers and streamers and do whatever they told them to do.

I have noticed many newbie gamblers who were streaming as professionals players and the followers were blindly following those stupid streams who were basically there to earn the referral profits. Those streamers earn money from Twitch and also from the casino sites that sponsor them, and they also make money when someone registers under their referral code. They really don't care about the audience because their main goal is to generate revenue and nothing else.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: erep on October 23, 2023, 05:31:49 PM
Casinos hire streamers to gamble on their website and stream it. Usually, these fake streamers gamble with a lot of money that casino credits to them. Their duty is to express their emotions during gambling, to show anger when they lose and break keyboard and do some shit in order to make video go viral and collect many views. They have to be super happy and express happiness when they win. They have to look like real, genuine gamblers with genuine and heightened emotions.
I just found out about this, I rarely look for information outside about gambling because the forum has provided a complete gambling board to discuss crypto-based gambling. Many streamers provide fake reviews because they have been paid to popularize new casinos among their subscribers and technically promote globally as you said above.

I suggest you be careful looking for gambling references outside of forums, many streamers, bloggers, and even social media accounts have been ordered to promote scam casinos.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Findingnemo on October 23, 2023, 05:42:34 PM
I wouldn't say they are faking anything as long as they are promoting legitimate casinos but many streamers are either sponsored by the casino for their entire wagering to show their brand to thousands of live viewers to attract potential customers which they tend to not expose publicly while it can be a moral loss for the one who is trusting them and hoping that this person is being entirely transparent.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 23, 2023, 06:40:20 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Most influencers are fake. Casino streamers are just a different type of influencer.

I do not recommend to listening to any one of them. There is no point in taking them seriously since for you, they are mere entertainment, but for them you are a source of income. And they will market their "product" in any way that they can in order to earn some more money. They pretend to buy expensive cars while only renting them for a photoshoot, they pretend to be rich, even though they are not. They buy huge amounts of followers to make themselves seem more famous than they really are. Everything in their life is faked in order to earn your attention.

The mentioned fake casino streamer is just one of many attempts to earn money while not actually putting in the real work. Basically they are the made-in-china version of streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: abel1337 on October 23, 2023, 06:56:16 PM
There are even streamers who switched from their usual games to casino games real quick. I've saw so many streamers on other streaming platforms such as facebook that these streamers are playing casino games where there primary audience are teens or I believe some of them are minors. I'm pretty sure that those kind of streamers are paid by the casino and I don't have a problem with that, my problem is on the streamer side. Imagine that your fanbase are teens and some of it are minors and suddenly you promoted or play on a casino where you are hyping your viewers on how easy you can make money online. For sure teens who has a strong curiosity will try it even if the streamers say that you need to be on a legal age before you try it.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: darkangel11 on October 23, 2023, 07:14:35 PM
The article did not reveal anything that we haven't already known.
Yes, sponsored streamers often cheat. Probably the most popular way that it's done is through increased rakeback. This allows the streamer to attract attention by betting very high in a poker game, which excites the audience. It's fun to watch someone bet $10k on stream, which is something most of us will never do in our lives. If they lose they'll get some of the money back for promoting the casino and everybody is happy.
The casino gets promoted, the gambler gets views, gains popularity, twitch pays him for the stream and he gets a chance to win against the casino without risking too much money, the viewers get to watch a fun show.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: milewilda on October 23, 2023, 07:37:40 PM
I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.
Im also like this on which i dont really have that kind of interest or never ever in my life do really recognized with these so-called streamers. Even if they are really  that considered legit or known but still the interest isnt there.Speaking about those gambling streamers then it is obviously that they ae really that funded on which it is really just that common sense because these streamers wont really be that using their own fund for them to play gambling because losing is really that would really come next in line. Manipulative? Possible because people been saying that these streamers do really hit up some huge win everytime that they do play and when there's someone tend to copy out but ended up on that different results on which it would really be just that normal that saying and impressions about non fair would really be there.

Therefore, as a viewer then it would really be that depending on  you whether you would really be making yourself that easily believed and follow the footsteps of these streamers and finding to mimic out
on what they've been doing or just simply skip out. You wont really be that so dumb on easily making yourself follow on what they are doing. If you are really just that watching these people
for entertainment then its just fine but on the time that you are already following on what they are doing which it is really that main job in the first place then be careful and watchful
when it comes into your spending.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: summonerrk on October 23, 2023, 07:50:59 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

The article is very similar to the truthful information. It is obvious that people have always trusted most ordinary guys like themselves. Especially if the streamer is a little stupid, it’s much more fun to watch him, and then think that “I would be even luckier and more skillful,” or “if this fool is lucky, then why won’t I be lucky?” The casino promoter knows this information very well, and I am sure that most streamers have unfairly inflated chances of winning, or they show rigged victories.

Recently, I witnessed one of the streamers playing a game where it was required to guess 1 number out of 3, and so on several times. He guessed seven times in a row, while dancing in front of the camera like a fool.
Honestly, is it possible to guess for 10 minutes stream?
Of course not.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: iv4n on October 23, 2023, 08:23:37 PM
I follow Stake's Twitter account and I see many "max wins" on different slots... watching someone scoring a max win on some slot is fucking amazing, but most of us know it's not true. Take a look in the comments, most of us know it's a scam, but we still like to watch it, and some of us (if not all) will try to play the same slot after that...

In years of playing slots, I never won max win on any slot on any provider... I bought many bonuses, and I won even more bonus rounds with normal playing, but winning "max" gets out of my hands!


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: BenCodie on October 23, 2023, 08:44:49 PM
I follow Stake's Twitter account and I see many "max wins" on different slots... watching someone scoring a max win on some slot is fucking amazing, but most of us know it's not true. Take a look in the comments, most of us know it's a scam, but we still like to watch it, and some of us (if not all) will try to play the same slot after that...

In years of playing slots, I never won max win on any slot on any provider... I bought many bonuses, and I won even more bonus rounds with normal playing, but winning "max" gets out of my hands!

That sounds about right. If anyone would have such a large control over the influence in the casino industry right now, it would be stake. Many of us know the campaigns are a scam, the reason being is because advertisers try not to hide it. Casinos rather to take advantage of fools, than to deceive anyone who may not be a complete fool. The trickery is obvious so that there is less deceit.

I saw on a similar thread that Rollbit had an image of someone betting 50k on options/binary and making over $3,000,000. Another user came out and said that it was fake and that cointelegraph either conducted/continued to sponsor it anyway.



Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: seoincorporation on October 23, 2023, 09:11:34 PM
well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 23, 2023, 09:58:30 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Probably the thing that if they get sponsored by a casino is that they'll get lots of money. I think the saying "fake it until you make it" kinda applies here and I don't think they can only be found on Twitch and Kick platforms, they are literally everywhere these days and I think it's even more rampant on Facebook/Meta as well.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: www.Gambler.Casino on October 23, 2023, 10:04:29 PM
I want to add - the number of real viewers may not coincide with the statistics. Most streamers buy online promotion - number of viewers, chat activity


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: livingfree on October 23, 2023, 10:09:47 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
AFAIK, there have been some news about Twitch banning some gambling contents but I can't remember if that's only for specific websites they promote.

But most of the casino streamers have their own sponsorships and that's why they do that on certain platforms to give exposure to their community where they are gambling.

While some casino streamers just doing it for their own pleasure and there's no brand deals that are on it and they're just the casual type of gamblers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Mate2237 on October 23, 2023, 10:16:05 PM
I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.
I agree with you on the point that many streamers are casino sponsored ones while some are for online businesses and the last set is from the scammers or fake category. There are some things streamers will do to convince their clients to use the site and that is the manipulating side of the game by the sponsored streamers of any other categories. But even though the games are manipulated you can still win the game if you know how to play them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: letteredhub on October 23, 2023, 10:21:17 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
if we are to incline our self to online casino streamers we are just going to fall from one misguided online gambling site to another, a good number of those online streams are a sponsored stream. Doing your own research before interesting yourself to any of it is the only pragmatic step not to fall for a cheap commodity that was highly exalted, that's me being figurative.
We may wonder why this keep happening, let me tell you, the vested interest is mutual, the streamer does what he does for a living likewise these fake casinos and I'd your gullible to fall for it then you're the one paying for their shits so the article didn't lie.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Wexnident on October 23, 2023, 10:35:34 PM
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Because a lot of people were simply molded to eat up content like this, regardless of whether it was fake or not. Just look at the countless channels out there, some of which are obviously fake while some may still be fake, but they at least appear to be rather legit (not talking about casino streams specifically but other variety streams as well). But well, it is what it is at this point. While I do know they do that kind of thing just to avoid losing money, it does lose that sense of realness, if that's a word, in they're streams (which I don't watch anw).

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AFAIK, there have been some news about Twitch banning some gambling contents but I can't remember if that's only for specific websites they promote.

But most of the casino streamers have their own sponsorships and that's why they do that on certain platforms to give exposure to their community where they are gambling.

While some casino streamers just doing it for their own pleasure and there's no brand deals that are on it and they're just the casual type of gamblers.
It was using casino affiliate links itself and stuff similar to that. Streaming about gambling in general is still allowed afaik.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: avp2306 on October 23, 2023, 10:54:33 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
if we are to incline our self to online casino streamers we are just going to fall from one misguided online gambling site to another, a good number of those online streams are a sponsored stream. Doing your own research before interesting yourself to any of it is the only pragmatic step not to fall for a cheap commodity that was highly exalted, that's me being figurative.
We may wonder why this keep happening, let me tell you, the vested interest is mutual, the streamer does what he does for a living likewise these fake casinos and I'd your gullible to fall for it then you're the one paying for their shits so the article didn't lie.


But unfortunately other people didn't do their own research and easily believe on what those streamers offering to them that's why they always have misconception of everything since they fail to research some important points to verify the claims of those people. They should always know the intention of those streamers so that they would provably take a right approach on those streamers and will not fall to any misleading thinking especially that they can earn a lot of profit if they follow all those things they do.

Research of everything is needed so that we will not get caught up by those fake streamers since the only one they want is the referrals coming from us and they don't have any concern to the people following them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: livingfree on October 23, 2023, 11:13:33 PM
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AFAIK, there have been some news about Twitch banning some gambling contents but I can't remember if that's only for specific websites they promote.

But most of the casino streamers have their own sponsorships and that's why they do that on certain platforms to give exposure to their community where they are gambling.

While some casino streamers just doing it for their own pleasure and there's no brand deals that are on it and they're just the casual type of gamblers.
It was using casino affiliate links itself and stuff similar to that. Streaming about gambling in general is still allowed afaik.
Oh, thanks mate.

I thought that the news was about banning them stream casino related stuff but if it's the affiliated links then that's still fine because they can continue streaming.

Maybe they have some other tactics on how they're going to spread that affiliate for their own commission and tracking.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: bettercrypto on October 23, 2023, 11:40:15 PM
in our time today, if there are more streamers, it's because there's a lot of money to be made here, in short, it's a business where you can only be promoted depending on what class you're promoting, it can be any kind of games online , or gambling depending.

In this era that we live in, the in demand for streamers is that they promote online gambling, and the gambling owner pays them a lot every time they open a live stream, and most live streamers really don't can refuse the offer, even if what they do in promotion is true or not bad or good as long as they can promote it according to the number of their followers. And everybody they can see their promoting gambling apps.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: TimeTeller on October 23, 2023, 11:43:41 PM
in our time today, if there are more streamers, it's because there's a lot of money to be made here, in short, it's a business where you can only be promoted depending on what class you're promoting, it can be any kind of games online , or gambling depending.

In this era that we live in, the in demand for streamers is that they promote online gambling, and the gambling owner pays them a lot every time they open a live stream, and most live streamers really don't can refuse the offer, even if what they do in promotion is true or not bad or good as long as they can promote it according to the number of their followers. And everybody they can see their promoting gambling apps.

It all comes down to the fact that most of them are paid by those casinos they are promoting with.
If they are not being paid, I don't think they will promote it for free, and lost a lot as well.
The problem lies the fact that a lot are still gullible these days, hoping that they will also hit big.
We don't know all the behind the scenes of those videos, as they can easily edit it and show only those wins and not losses.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 23, 2023, 11:50:21 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
This is not new though, I mean it's very obvious that if you are in the gambling world, you will understand where this streamers are coming from.

1. Either the money they played are from the casino itself, we didn't see their bank accounts or depositing a money to the casino.
2. Fake money
3. They are using just a demo account

Why are they popular despite this? It's because people wanted to witnessed something big gonna happen to him. Most likely for gamblers they want to get that experience to let's say for Rothstein (mentioned in the article), betting on his favorite number of 14 and hitting it big. So if you are a gambler who play slots and one of your favorite number is 14 as well, then you can related to that kind of feeling seeing that ball hitting "your" number.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: ralle14 on October 24, 2023, 12:44:26 AM
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Unfortunately, most of what they mentioned is accurate once you start watching several gambling streams. The only part i'm not sure about is the fake RTP with the providers because i've seen streamers drain their balance quickly and it's only a matter of time until they hit something big after countless top-ups coming from their sponsors. It's still possible for the RTP to be manipulated because casinos can adjust the payout, but there aren't enough hints to confirm the fake wins when they can also brute force their way to a max win (with an endless casino balance).


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: ryzaadit on October 24, 2023, 01:41:31 AM
I think the question is not popular. They already have audience, before they stream casino most of them are are gamers (the audience are not from gambling). The real question, why people still watching even they're fake ? the reason is because most of the stream have (Giveaway) points on their stream system, that's the reason why people still watch these guys even they're doing a fake stream.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: kotajikikox on October 24, 2023, 01:55:39 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
as they are mostly being sponsored  so wat do we expect from them ? as if they will tell the truth about the site whos paying them.
also Streamers are Biased , Yes they might not in the beginning but sooner as they already gathers popularity , then the offering starts and the payment will increase.

I tried following some of them in social media even in Youtube , I begin to believe all of them telling truth , not till the time I see some irregularities about how they delivering words against other site while promoting some.

try not to deal with their traps , but instead look at the tips they are giving for your better gambling outcome.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: peter0425 on October 24, 2023, 02:53:07 AM
in our time today, if there are more streamers, it's because there's a lot of money to be made here, in short, it's a business where you can only be promoted depending on what class you're promoting, it can be any kind of games online , or gambling depending.
Money making place is where online world gives now , you only need to build your name for some time , try to gather as many as followers and viewers and the next thing is offers from companies and teams.
try not to listen to what they say instead dig your own , or ask the bitcointalk community if needed.
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In this era that we live in, the in demand for streamers is that they promote online gambling, and the gambling owner pays them a lot every time they open a live stream, and most live streamers really don't can refuse the offer, even if what they do in promotion is true or not bad or good as long as they can promote it according to the number of their followers. And everybody they can see their promoting gambling apps.
they may promote gambling or any other businesses but that is all for money and not for the sake of peoples welfare and safeties.
so never blame them if you turns scammed because you trusted them and did not do your homeworks.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Strongkored on October 24, 2023, 03:39:33 AM
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
You have to check it yourself if you want to know the truth, I didn't click on the link you linked and because I'm not someone who is interested in watching broadcasts from gambling streamers, I don't care at all if it's true, but if there is a fake streamer would have very little of viewers because usually gamblers will only watch broadcasts from known streamers.
And you don't need to be confused about why Twitch and Kick are full of broadcasts from gambling streamers because it has been going on for a long time and specifically for Kick, it became even more famous when Twitch banned crypto casinos from broadcasting on that platform.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: bayu7adi on October 24, 2023, 04:51:48 AM
Aside from being casino-sponsored streamers, many game streamers now receive donations from casinos, almost as if the casinos are capitalizing on the bustling user base, using it as a target audience for their casino advertisements since donor comments frequently appear on the screen.

For those accustomed to the online world, trusting low-reputation websites should not be done hastily. We all tend to be selective when making deposits on casino websites promoted by individuals, and before making a deposit, it's advisable to seek out the best user reviews. It helps determine if there are any issues related to the casino in question.

The realm of gambling has indeed gained considerable momentum nowadays, and I acknowledge that. I must assert that one day, there will likely be specific regulations concerning gambling as society endures many consequences stemming from the gambling they partake in. Losses are inevitable since individuals often don't receive fair treatment when depositing money on some of the gambling websites they select.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Ryker1 on October 24, 2023, 04:56:02 AM
I think the question is not popular. They already have audience, before they stream casino most of them are are gamers (the audience are not from gambling). The real question, why people still watching even they're fake ? the reason is because most of the stream have (Giveaway) points on their stream system, that's the reason why people still watch these guys even they're doing a fake stream.
Well, that is right and I was also thinking this the same.
The fact perhaps is no one streamer is honest, most of them deceive people --or influence people by pretending they will make a profit from gambling. I saw a lot of gaming streamers that turned into gambling streamers. However, it does not matter to them if it is fake or not as long as they enjoy the content that makes matter and you are right --incentives make users or followers attract.
This is not new and it should not be asked.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Porfirii on October 24, 2023, 04:59:42 AM


The reason why they are so popular is, imo, a very well elaborated plan and design by their sponsors, and effective execution thanks to the resources that they have available. It's sad that many good professionals will desist early because the rules of the game are not the same for everyone.


There are big of money to be made from casino streaming so there are well-coordinated and elaborated plans to make things look real, It is already an open secret among old-timers here in the industry, we all know casinos pay people who will give them the most players and people love to watch live streams.

I'm not a fan of streamers, I already know that they are fake streamers before watching one and they are so good in their acting it's well-rehearsed and if you don't know the truth about this stuff you will end up saying, I need to play in that casino I could win that big amount or maybe even more.

We are all primates, aren't we? (sorry creationists). And if there is something primates do well is mimicking. So, if we see another member of our species doing this or that, our mirror neurons activate and we feel the urgency to do the same. Add to the mix the way they usually shout and we are transported back to the jungle.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 24, 2023, 05:08:03 AM
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
You have to check it yourself if you want to know the truth, I didn't click on the link you linked and because I'm not someone who is interested in watching broadcasts from gambling streamers, I don't care at all if it's true, but if there is a fake streamer would have very little of viewers because usually gamblers will only watch broadcasts from known streamers.
And you don't need to be confused about why Twitch and Kick are full of broadcasts from gambling streamers because it has been going on for a long time and specifically for Kick, it became even more famous when Twitch banned crypto casinos from broadcasting on that platform.
Like you , I amnot a fan of those streamers because i believe that they are not true to what they are trying to tell gamblers instead it will only good for them and the gambling site.

and also twitch banning crypto related broadcast because of so much malicious happening , abusing of the platform just to favor streamers and gambling owner and the victims are their users .
good thing from twitch and Kick is still supporting and other social media outlet.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Nrcewker on October 24, 2023, 05:10:29 AM
There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Kemarit on October 24, 2023, 05:16:15 AM
I think the question is not popular. They already have audience, before they stream casino most of them are are gamers (the audience are not from gambling). The real question, why people still watching even they're fake ? the reason is because most of the stream have (Giveaway) points on their stream system, that's the reason why people still watch these guys even they're doing a fake stream.

Take for example Drake, in almost every stream he does, he usually have this giveaways, he even called individuals personally, facetime them and so to the audience that indeed there is a person on the other side and that everything seems to be real, I mean the money that he is giving away. But it could come to Stake themselves as we all know that they sponsored him.

And also, those who are being called supposedly sign up under Drake, so there is where the source of the money is. Them sign under him as a affiliate and then he gives them money. Sure way, like win win for all party and then he can also make money too to those who are watching every streams.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Kakmakr on October 24, 2023, 05:59:09 AM
The "Affiliate" streamers are fake, because they are using the money that are funded by the casino for them to gamble. They normally have unlimited funds and they also make huge bets to draw attention to gambling for marketing purposes. (You want to see a guy making $1000 bets.... not someone making $0.30 bets.. right)  ::)

Also, having being funded by a casino.... they usually chase the big win for much longer times, until the RTP kick in and he or she wins back the money or they win big jackpots. Normal players have a much smaller balance to play with and their money runs out... way before the RTP are hit.  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: piebeyb on October 24, 2023, 06:52:39 AM
For old gamblers, maybe they already know this and I also know this, so it is part of marketing to get traffic, after all, almost all casinos do the same thing in collaboration with streamers and influencers, this is done only to attract new gamblers, in fact, as long as there are still many their audience will become increasingly popular and that's what happens, as old gamblers of course what we do is just remind beginners not to gamble too deeply.

Whatever is said about fake casinos and others in this thread is not just a figment of the imagination and almost all of them actually collaborate with casinos and all the money in them may also be manipulated, even all casinos also use this method because it is faster to get traffic quickly than marketing. other. but there are also gamblers who are honest and do not display their winnings there because they know the dealer will always win  :D


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Wapfika on October 24, 2023, 06:54:19 AM
The "Affiliate" streamers are fake, because they are using the money that are funded by the casino for them to gamble. They normally have unlimited funds and they also make huge bets to draw attention to gambling for marketing purposes. (You want to see a guy making $1000 bets.... not someone making $0.30 bets.. right)  ::)

Also, having being funded by a casino.... they usually chase the big win for much longer times, until the RTP kick in and he or she wins back the money or they win big jackpots. Normal players have a much smaller balance to play with and their money runs out... way before the RTP are hit.  ::) ::) ::)

Agreed, Most of the streamers especially high rollers use fake balance but they also using part of their money on some of their bankroll aside from their partnership money. They are not totally fake but rather they just have a  higher bankroll due to partnerships that’s why they can play in a very careless manner or whatever they like.

There some streamers that reported losing everything including their own savings just because they become addicted. A gambler that use to bet huge amount will always use the same bet amount whenever they are playing with real money. Maybe sometimes they are already using their own money on some part of their stream.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Bitinity on October 24, 2023, 07:13:56 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: pawanjain on October 24, 2023, 07:46:32 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: BenCodie on October 24, 2023, 07:51:20 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

There are plenty of posts around that talk about Stunna/Eddie (same person from what I have read) incentivizing restricted countries to use VPNs to bypass country restrictions and use Stake, and influencers/streamers doing the same thing toward their followers. All it takes is some googling or bitcointalk searching to see the reports of such. That's only one malpractice from the casino.

I think you are partially right that LTC Casino have made the post to point out the issues with Stake, probably to benefit their casino in turn. Though if the allegations are true, then that's just a competitor taking the opportunity to gain some business. I don't blame them for exposing a competitor if the allegations are true, and from my reading, they are more likely to be true than untrue.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Outhue on October 24, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
Not just in gambling world only, anything the streamers around the world offers are been sponsored, this is how they make their own money, if you are the type that believes in things easily you will be filled easily, I don't always believe such entertainments because it's fill with lies and staged games.

Most streamers gets paid by bringing in people to the casino, they have only one goal, to influence many people as possible and that is what increase their paycheck.

Avoid them and gamble within your limits, use only trusted gambling platforms and leave the rest, some reputable casinos use streamers also and that doesn't make them bad but be careful when picking your online casino.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Blitzboy on October 24, 2023, 08:22:19 AM
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
You have to check it yourself if you want to know the truth, I didn't click on the link you linked and because I'm not someone who is interested in watching broadcasts from gambling streamers, I don't care at all if it's true, but if there is a fake streamer would have very little of viewers because usually gamblers will only watch broadcasts from known streamers.
And you don't need to be confused about why Twitch and Kick are full of broadcasts from gambling streamers because it has been going on for a long time and specifically for Kick, it became even more famous when Twitch banned crypto casinos from broadcasting on that platform.
What about doing your own research? This happens a lot, especially when people are online. Thats exactly why human verification is so important. Yeah, why waste time on people you don't know, right? When it comes to gaming, trustworthiness is absolutely essential. Strange or unreliable material won't get anyone's attention.

Turning the camera around a bit, it's interesting to see how platforms like Kick have used Twitch's choices to their advantage. A classic case of one door closed and another opening. Content creators will always find ways to get their work out there, even if some sites ignore them. Whats the basic idea? Be careful, think critically, and always, always ask questions about what you see before you start.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: angrybirdy on October 24, 2023, 09:32:52 AM
There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as I know, some streamers have literally no idea of what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others feature in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors, and clients. Influencers and Streamers received sponsors and business proposals not just for gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Chato1977 on October 24, 2023, 09:38:06 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).
Yes it is obvious that a one sided article , and believing streamers is like letting your money being taken by casino houses that easy.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hamphser on October 24, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
As a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be putting up focus into those known or popular influencers or streamers when it comes to marketing as much as possible knowing that exposure would really be that more wide if the said  streamer would really be that having that tons of followers on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be that choosing those.
Speaking about  fake then i dont think that there would really be that becoming that big or popular because once that a certain streamer does have that kind of issue on something being that manipulative
then issues could really be thrown out and would really be affecting his popularity and reputation then which means that he cant really go into the peak in speaking about being that reputable.

This is why we us viewers then it would really be just that normal that you would really be that careful on whose streamer you would really be watching into.
Its impossible though that you wont really be noticing something if there's odd something happening.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Slow death on October 24, 2023, 10:25:13 AM
Nowadays people on the internet use all means to make money, this means they are not trying hard to lose money. Those guys who create twitch channels are creating with the intention of making a profit from it, that's why they play with little money from their pockets and when they have opportunities to be sponsored by the casino then obviously they will play using the money that the casino gave them to play. Now how would this be considered fake? If the owner of the channel did not say that he plays with money from his pocket and was honest in saying that it is being sponsored by a casino, then he cannot be considered dishonest, because he was honest in saying where the money comes from so he can do everything bets

It becomes fake and dishonest when the guy doesn't say where the money comes from for him to place bets and lies that he uses money from his pocket to place bets when in fact he is being sponsored by a casino. Another very important point is that people should not copy everything these stream channel owners do and say. because we all know that in games of chance people rarely come out with a profit, there are more losses than profits. By the way, OP, I see that you created an account last year but only now did you decide to make this post and precisely with an article that was created by a certain casino that in the past was involved in a controversy that reduced their popularity. this is very strange


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: jordanw21 on October 24, 2023, 11:19:17 AM
The good thing is that they at least are not on YT anymore. Not interested people never will find them. Unless they are Drake fans


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hirose UK on October 24, 2023, 12:16:10 PM
There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as i know, some streamers has literally no idea on what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others features in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors and clients. Influencers and Streamers received a sponsors and business proposals not just in gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
What you say is true because an influencer is usually paid quite large amount but some of them don't really know what they are promoting because an influencer only prioritizes payment and not anything else related to the site.
But there are indeed many influencers like those in the article shared by the OP even though I haven't actually found them quite a lot of gamblers have said so and have found them.

In my country there are several similar cases but most of them are influencers who have all the requirements for streaming gambling have been prepared by the gambling site so that the influencer only needs to broadcast it.
Most of them are casino accounts that have been prepared by the site and the accounts used to play and broadcast have very high winning percentage so losses occur less frequently.
Things like this will make more people interested especially new gamblers who don't have much gambling experience.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: yahoo62278 on October 24, 2023, 01:07:44 PM
well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.
Every streamer has a different deal. Some have the rollover like you mentioned, some just have to stream for x hours and keep what's left, and some have to stream and get to keep 10% of the balance that's left. There are other deals out there as well, but they all depend on many factors. How many viewers you get in your stream on average, how many followers you have, how often you can/will stream, what sort of balance you want to play with, etc. All of this is considered before a casino will even offer you a deal, if certain numbers aren't there then a casino will not offer you a deal. You also have to have depositors if/when you get a deal. If people aren't making deposits under your code, you will lose your deal within 2 weeks. Casino has to be gaining something from you or there is no point in having you on their payroll.

If you are a streamer with a nice number of viewers( not from a viewbot as that's worthless)(min 50-100 average viewers) and have an active chat, I may be able to get you a deal. I would have to verify a few things before getting you in contact with my contact. Send me a pm or message on telegram @yahoo62278 and maybe I can help you out. Don't waste my time though, I'm not contacting anyone for you if you have a viewbotted channel. It's pretty easy to spot.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: 3kpk3 on October 24, 2023, 01:23:16 PM
Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
Acting like they are risking their own money with the casino supporting them in various ways is most definitely considered fake/artificial behaviour and there is no need to sugercoat it.

They know damn well what they are doing and they are earning well by fooling gamblers around the world. Think!


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 24, 2023, 01:36:41 PM
You're asking why casino streamers are fake? why you're not ask why people are wasting their time to watch someone who gamble? if there's no market, the casino will not want to spend money for that marketing strategy since there's many other ways.

Gambling is about luck especially the streamer is playing slots, it's really worth to watch someone sad, happy, angry and just click spin button?


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: bittraffic on October 24, 2023, 01:41:55 PM
Internet companies do all the crazy tricks to promote their services. And it's not just the gambling industry that does all these because the adult industry is the worst of it all. A chick on the camera can actually make the jackass pay for more ballistic positions or a Facebook friend request with a petite girl can bring a maniac go to an adult dating site.

In the gambling industry which is very competitive, they could really be just rolling out their own money or a new owner of a casino may even do a streaming himself just to promote and them scam clients in the end.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 24, 2023, 02:53:03 PM
You're asking why casino streamers are fake? why you're not ask why people are wasting their time to watch someone who gamble? if there's no market, the casino will not want to spend money for that marketing strategy since there's many other ways.

Gambling is about luck especially the streamer is playing slots, it's really worth to watch someone sad, happy, angry and just click spin button?
Well, like i have mentioned here before, I personally do not fancy watching such things as a streamer gambling and all that, but let me say that there are a lot of people, mostly gamblers, who actually find such things as very interesting, and maybe informative as well, since depending on the type of game the streamer is playing, the watchers could learn a thing or two from the stream, they could also learn some gambling strategies which they could apply to their own gambling, most especially if they watched the streamer use and it worked for him or her.

Every gambler, no matter how small is looking for ways how to play and win, watching streams is a pure entertainment for some gamblers and people, while it is an information base and a sources of new ideas and strategies for others, so it is not all about just wanting to watch a person happy or sad as you assume.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: rahmad2nd on October 24, 2023, 09:07:44 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.


The link you shared is too long for us to read, even though the main content of the article is very easy for us to understand. the point is related to the theme of your thread title. Well, actually we can see it from various points of view, but it depends on how you respond to it. but first, to be honest, I rarely or even accidentally watch several streamers who promote gambling. If we respond to it from a different perspective, there is actually nothing wrong with that. because, after all, gambling platforms or casinos require services from those who promote them. including streamers, even those of us who use casino signatures, even though the mechanisms and theories are different.

Well, from the list of names you mentioned in the link you shared, the only one I know correctly is Draker. other than that, I don't really know about it and have only just heard about it. but all that doesn't matter, and has nothing to do with us. So, the question is, does it bother you, or make you frustrated. if so, it's best to just ignore it. and actually, of the many people who watch or view the streamers' broadcasts, they don't necessarily have the same mindset. It could be that most of the fake streamers' viewers are only interested in watching it as entertainment. It could also be, they just find out the truth behind what these fake streamers are doing. 

However, it doesn't rule out the possibility that there are some streamers who really do it just for personal enjoyment without being sponsored by a casino. Even though I don't know the person, it doesn't rule out the possibility that there are many streamers who do it for fun. After all, they also get paid from visitors who watch their broadcasts.
For me, I don't like watching streamers on various platforms. because if I want to gamble, there is no need to wait for them to broadcast live. I can do it, without having to refer to what they do, especially fake streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Renampun on October 24, 2023, 09:20:44 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Fake casino streamers are no longer new news, in fact, there are more than 1 or 2 casino streamers who are indicated as fake streamers, reportedly they are paid by a casino to play at their online casino, of course with the money given by the casino to that streamer's account. Honestly, I really support articles like the one above, they can be disseminated to many people, especially people who often watch their favorite vloggers or streamers so that when they see their favorite streamer gambling at an online casino, they realize that it is fake.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on October 24, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
I'd never believe 100% of everything i see online... It's quite disastrous bro. This is how I see it ; anything technical could possibly be manipulated so YES, the article writers may be right to some extent...
Live streaming was introduced for monetary purposes too - so there's every tendency that a bot is made to play alongside, or it's partly preprogrammed ....
All the same, it's about how best you've understood every game on the streams... If an experienced gambler sees an opportunity to hit, then whatever means to lure his interest is useless.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: BitDane on October 24, 2023, 10:26:49 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on October 24, 2023, 11:12:39 PM
well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.
Every streamer has a different deal. Some have the rollover like you mentioned, some just have to stream for x hours and keep what's left, and some have to stream and get to keep 10% of the balance that's left. There are other deals out there as well, but they all depend on many factors. How many viewers you get in your stream on average, how many followers you have, how often you can/will stream, what sort of balance you want to play with, etc. All of this is considered before a casino will even offer you a deal, if certain numbers aren't there then a casino will not offer you a deal. You also have to have depositors if/when you get a deal. If people aren't making deposits under your code, you will lose your deal within 2 weeks. Casino has to be gaining something from you or there is no point in having you on their payroll.

If you are a streamer with a nice number of viewers( not from a viewbot as that's worthless)(min 50-100 average viewers) and have an active chat, I may be able to get you a deal. I would have to verify a few things before getting you in contact with my contact. Send me a pm or message on telegram @yahoo62278 and maybe I can help you out. Don't waste my time though, I'm not contacting anyone for you if you have a viewbotted channel. It's pretty easy to spot.
This is the most precise way on how things going  with this kind of set up specially on hiring up streamers on which it would really be generally be getting in line on what the casino wants or you would really be playing according into their rules and its up to you whether you would really be agreeing or not, just like been said that you would really be needing those qualifications before you would really be that be considered for you to get paid on your service. Of course they would really be that mindful on the money that they would really be spending.

Good elaboration basing up on the real experience you do have yahoo. It would really be definitely be under such conditions on which it is really just that always
be that showing  that you are really that eligible or capable on bring out deposits into their site which it is really that understandable.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Odusko on October 24, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
What do you guys expect anyways, streamers are businesses men and they get paid for doing what they are doing and at that, we have to carry out our own independent research about the casinos or games that they promote to be able to picture our the real deal in it aside from the many fancy things that the influencer may try to flood our screen with.
At most, what you should take them for is just a point of research since they bring to our notice new things and leave for us to confirm their authenticity.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: slapper on October 25, 2023, 05:50:36 AM
~snip~
This is the most precise way on how things going  with this kind of set up specially on hiring up streamers on which it would really be generally be getting in line on what the casino wants or you would really be playing according into their rules and its up to you whether you would really be agreeing or not, just like been said that you would really be needing those qualifications before you would really be that be considered for you to get paid on your service. Of course they would really be that mindful on the money that they would really be spending.

Good elaboration basing up on the real experience you do have yahoo. It would really be definitely be under such conditions on which it is really just that always
be that showing  that you are really that eligible or capable on bring out deposits into their site which it is really that understandable.
Rules are everything when hiring streamers, especially in casinos. If you're on the casino stage, you better know your lines, right? Like being invited to a high-stakes poker game. You must know the game, players, and stakes. And if not? You're setting yourself up to lose.

Now, I've seen this and been around, and qualifications matter. Why shouldn't they desire the best? They demand a return on their large investment. If you want to do this, you better be the best, or try to be. Maybe you're not. This game may not be for you. If you are and follow their rules, the benefits might be huge. Tremendous!


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: noormcs5 on October 25, 2023, 06:01:47 AM
~snip~
This is the most precise way on how things going  with this kind of set up specially on hiring up streamers on which it would really be generally be getting in line on what the casino wants or you would really be playing according into their rules and its up to you whether you would really be agreeing or not, just like been said that you would really be needing those qualifications before you would really be that be considered for you to get paid on your service. Of course they would really be that mindful on the money that they would really be spending.

Good elaboration basing up on the real experience you do have yahoo. It would really be definitely be under such conditions on which it is really just that always
be that showing  that you are really that eligible or capable on bring out deposits into their site which it is really that understandable.
Rules are everything when hiring streamers, especially in casinos. If you're on the casino stage, you better know your lines, right? Like being invited to a high-stakes poker game. You must know the game, players, and stakes. And if not? You're setting yourself up to lose.

Now, I've seen this and been around, and qualifications matter. Why shouldn't they desire the best? They demand a return on their large investment. If you want to do this, you better be the best, or try to be. Maybe you're not. This game may not be for you. If you are and follow their rules, the benefits might be huge. Tremendous!


If the casino hire streamers, they will also give them incentive and money to play with. Usually when a streamer is being offered to stream a casino, by the casino team, then they will fully fund him so that the streamers are able to play freely and the viewers enjoy the streams.

Yes, if there is no such deal with the casino, then the streamer will use their own money to gamble and at the same time live stream for their audience. In this case too, the streamers usually earn more money through stream and if they won anything while gambling too, that will be a bonus and additional money for them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: swogerino on October 25, 2023, 06:39:05 AM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Latviand on October 25, 2023, 06:42:50 AM
I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.
Usually people who say what they are don't actually say it because the need for them to talk about it doesn't do them any favor or that it's not a testament that they are who they preach, they just do it and let people decide if they are that kind of person. Regarding those streamers, these problem has been going on for so long and it seems to me that there's no cure to this besides streamers actually declining the deal with this casinos but given how lucrative the deals are, it's unlikely that they would decline it not to mention that up and coming streamers are caught off guard by this so they just accept it because what they have to do is easy and you really can't blame the casinos doing these scummy thing though, they have a business to run and no matter how you look at it, they're just trying to make their casinos as attractie to those viewers as much as possible even if it means they have to lie.
What do you guys expect anyways, streamers are businesses men and they get paid for doing what they are doing and at that, we have to carry out our own independent research about the casinos or games that they promote to be able to picture our the real deal in it aside from the many fancy things that the influencer may try to flood our screen with.
At most, what you should take them for is just a point of research since they bring to our notice new things and leave for us to confirm their authenticity.
That doesn't mean that you can't have boundaries and morals, as an influencer that has thousands of viewers and you don't know a lot of them personally, it's your duty to be a role model to them because there's probably a child out there that's watching you and you're streaming gambling stuff.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Bitinity on October 25, 2023, 09:01:23 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.

There is no other reason to make the title like that except to make readers focus on the word "fake". This way will make people think negatively on their first sight after reading the title, then most people will think negatively to read the other parts especially when the article mention a name of streamer or casino. For me, it is like an effort by ltccasino as competitor to make people think bad about stake in a hope that old stake players or new potential players will notice about it. Of course it is my assumption only.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Taskford on October 25, 2023, 09:24:55 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.


There is no other reason to make the title like that except to make readers focus on the word "fake". This way will make people think negatively on their first sight after reading the title, then most people will think negatively to read the other parts especially when the article mention a name of streamer or casino. For me, it is like an effort by ltccasino as competitor to make people think bad about stake in a hope that old stake players or new potential players will notice about it. Of course it is my assumption only.

Somehow we can expect them to throw some shade to their competitor since they just aim to destroy ones reputation for thinking that those existing costumers of stake will shift to play on their casino, but they forgot to know that those people who play on stake for long time is been solid already to their casino and no make up stories can change their minds unless there's something bad happen to the people operating that casino and stake cannot able to perform well.

Well its up for the people on what they take to those people who streamed their playing sessions on casino and most important for us is we never try to get hype by them then easily got influence on what are the information they want to spread. Knowing everything base on our own research is important so we would provably know what's real and what is fake.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: jordanw21 on October 25, 2023, 11:46:09 AM
Somehow we can expect them to throw some shade to their competitor since they just aim to destroy ones reputation for thinking that those existing costumers of stake will shift to play on their casino, but they forgot to know that those people who play on stake for long time is been solid already to their casino and no make up stories can change their minds unless there's something bad happen to the people operating that casino and stake cannot able to perform well.

Well its up for the people on what they take to those people who streamed their playing sessions on casino and most important for us is we never try to get hype by them then easily got influence on what are the information they want to spread. Knowing everything base on our own research is important so we would provably know what's real and what is fake.


Let's be honest, Stake casino doesn't have clear reputation. The theory in that article may be considered as a conspiracy, but we won't never know. For example, I still wonder, how Evolution inreases their profit by 20+% each Q or in YoY when avg RTP is 96% and they have to pay a tonn of employees.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 25, 2023, 01:24:41 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

That is the case; no streamer will promote or include a casino in their content unless they are compensated for it. That is where they generate money from advertisements and casino marketing since they know they can make a lot of money even if they do not gamble on the gambling site they will promote online.

Now, if there are phony streamers, we have no idea what their true goal is or why they engage in such deception. If claims like these are true,


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: crwth on October 25, 2023, 01:31:50 PM
They are probably popular because of the amount they are trying to spend on the casino and that's how they are going to make it seem like. Someone who wins a lot and bets a lot enough to make a career having to do gambling and streaming.

It's interesting to many because they want to watch someone fulfill their fillings in which they are "lucky" to win. They found backup to it or reinforcement or something. That could be the case.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: aioc on October 25, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

I don't watch streamers on their full lives but I do read reviews from popular reviewers about streamers, the streamers, and the casinos need each other they bring in new players, and there's a big possibility that there are a lot of fake streamers because they will not use their own money just to promote the site, some of them do not even post their referral link to make it appear fair review but it's an open secret that it's part where they make money, apart from donations coming from their followers

https://cardsrealm.com/en-us/articles/what-is-the-earnings-potential-of-online-gambling-streamers

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Firstly, they earn money through advertisements and sponsorships. Streaming platforms like Kick and YouTube offer advertising opportunities, and gambling companies may sponsor their streams.

Secondly, donations and tips from viewers are a big part of their income. Viewers can send virtual money or real money as a way to show support during live streams either through streaming platform channels, or directly to the streamer.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: panjul07 on October 25, 2023, 02:47:19 PM
I will not say they are fake, they are real streamer who are affiliated or sponsored by casino.
Coming up to the balance they use when they are streaming, high possibility that it is sponsored money that cant be withdrawn.
Just a guess ofc because we never know about how it works when streamers are sponsored by casino or being paid by the casino as part of marketing strategies of the casino.
Why they are so popular? Because they are popular people already in the streaming world before starting to be paid by casinos.
Other reason is that most casino streamers provide givewaway everytime they are doing stream, that's why many people watch the stream.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: jordanw21 on October 25, 2023, 03:18:34 PM
I will not say they are fake, they are real streamer who are affiliated or sponsored by casino.
Coming up to the balance they use when they are streaming, high possibility that it is sponsored money that cant be withdrawn.
Just a guess ofc because we never know about how it works when streamers are sponsored by casino or being paid by the casino as part of marketing strategies of the casino.
Why they are so popular? Because they are popular people already in the streaming world before starting to be paid by casinos.
Other reason is that most casino streamers provide givewaway everytime they are doing stream, that's why many people watch the stream.

They are popular because of charisma + money (will you ever watch the guy with $200 dep and 0.40c bet?).

And the problem is that those money are fake. The worst thing is that they teach new gamblers on how to play - risk, do all in, instead of waiting patiently for a jackpot


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: abel1337 on October 25, 2023, 03:32:33 PM
They are probably popular because of the amount they are trying to spend on the casino and that's how they are going to make it seem like. Someone who wins a lot and bets a lot enough to make a career having to do gambling and streaming.

It's interesting to many because they want to watch someone fulfill their fillings in which they are "lucky" to win. They found backup to it or reinforcement or something. That could be the case.
Sometimes even the money or credits that the streamers are using in their streams are fake even the platform, where the odds is programmed to be in their side. I guess it's what viewers want to see, how the bank roll grow in the streamers hand. Until they try the casino and ended up losing. I've saw many streamers that is doing casino contents which is random for them since they are not typically playing casino games and they are absolutely killing it by winning big time, this is one of the clues that they are paid/fake casino streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on October 25, 2023, 03:36:09 PM
Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: pawanjain on October 25, 2023, 03:41:09 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
As a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be putting up focus into those known or popular influencers or streamers when it comes to marketing as much as possible knowing that exposure would really be that more wide if the said  streamer would really be that having that tons of followers on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be that choosing those.
Speaking about  fake then i dont think that there would really be that becoming that big or popular because once that a certain streamer does have that kind of issue on something being that manipulative
then issues could really be thrown out and would really be affecting his popularity and reputation then which means that he cant really go into the peak in speaking about being that reputable.

This is why we us viewers then it would really be just that normal that you would really be that careful on whose streamer you would really be watching into.
Its impossible though that you wont really be noticing something if there's odd something happening.

Yes ofcourse, it all depends on the viewers whether they get attracted to the influencers or not.
I mean, a person can blindly follow an influencer while the other can do his due diligence and refer the influencer take the best out of his session.
But not everyone are like minded and most people fall for the high profits that those influencers get.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Pmalek on October 25, 2023, 03:51:44 PM
I don't like LTC Casino as they were caught lying and scamming a Bitcointalk user, so I am not going to bother clicking on and reading their content. But I can still share my opinion.

Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Coin_trader on October 25, 2023, 04:07:31 PM
Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.

What social media platform you are referring that flooded gambling live stream because I don’t encounter them in anymore regular basis ever since Twitch ban gambling streaming recently.

Most the social media platform doesn’t allow gambling streaming as far as I know. I can only watch streamers content on youtube through their replay video. I’m not updated anymore on what platform they are currently using but gambling streaming is not that flooded anymore compared when pandemic hits and Twitch still allowed them to stream gambling content.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on October 25, 2023, 04:27:35 PM
Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.

What social media platform you are referring that flooded gambling live stream because I don’t encounter them in anymore regular basis ever since Twitch ban gambling streaming recently.

Most the social media platform doesn’t allow gambling streaming as far as I know. I can only watch streamers content on youtube through their replay video. I’m not updated anymore on what platform they are currently using but gambling streaming is not that flooded anymore compared when pandemic hits and Twitch still allowed them to stream gambling content.

Facebook and YouTube. It hasn't flooded like during the pandemic as some influencers have stopped this kind of scheme. However, some still advertise online casinos at the end of their videos, even though some of their viewers are minors. These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: 3kpk3 on October 25, 2023, 05:01:12 PM
These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.
Yeah. That isn't happening anytime soon because these are the same platforms that allow viewers of all ages to watch game streams where real money can be used for various benefits such as FIFA packs, CS skins etc.

Their families are the only ones who can make sure that they don't get obsessed with any of that stuff basically.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: iv4n on October 25, 2023, 06:15:23 PM
Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people! :)


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: KiaKia on October 25, 2023, 06:29:33 PM
There was so much casino advertisement online in 2020 when there was lock down around the world, these bastards still find ways to get money out of people when they are not working, I don't blame them much as people also need ways to survive financially during the locked down period.

Today this have reduced greatly compare to then, I don't even look at streamers for me to be motivated enough to start gambling, I just do it and most times I regret doing so, I almost became a gambling addict in that locked down period but someone close to me opened my eye.

It's not a source of income she said, and I limited myself from gambling for other fun things, later I realize that you must not have some money hope in gambling, it's better to just gamble for fun with amount that are small or something you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Odusko on October 25, 2023, 06:36:10 PM
The reason is that most of those streamers are fake and do not play the real games all is being acted, It is a script just like the movies, don't take them seriously because they will only mislead you into believing in something that doesn't exist and that is too much of a risk to take at some point.
Don't get me wrong, we may have a few streamers who may be legit in they approach but then the rate of those that get their legit shit on are few compared to the acted ones.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: dezoel on October 25, 2023, 07:25:36 PM
I think there's nothing new in that, anyone who spends some time within the industry would come to know that all those streamers gambling with surprisingly high bets are basically either using fake money or sponsored money since no one with the right mindset would start betting with a base bet of $1,000 unless they are millionaires and don't care about losing a few hundred thousand dollars every month in gambling which also doesn't sound realistic.

They are popular because people love watching gamblers gambling with high bets just to see the outcomes of each bet and how much they manage to win and lose at the end of the session. The reason why they do this is that they get paid for it, it's what they do for a living, they find sponsors for their streams and do what they ask them to do and get paid for it.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on October 25, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
I think there's nothing new in that, anyone who spends some time within the industry would come to know that all those streamers gambling with surprisingly high bets are basically either using fake money or sponsored money since no one with the right mindset would start betting with a base bet of $1,000 unless they are millionaires and don't care about losing a few hundred thousand dollars every month in gambling which also doesn't sound realistic.

They are popular because people love watching gamblers gambling with high bets just to see the outcomes of each bet and how much they manage to win and lose at the end of the session. The reason why they do this is that they get paid for it, it's what they do for a living, they find sponsors for their streams and do what they ask them to do and get paid for it.
With having those kind of normal approach which had been applied with some common sense then you would really be mainly thinking that these streamers are really just that working for money or something that make them money and dealing up with gambling is really that totally opposing on what they are trying to do. Its true that once they do make out those thousand base bet on their wager then it would really be just that easy to assume out that they are whether have funded or those balances are really just that not a real money. THere's no way on telling it out not unless if they do make out that on point withdrawal but well it isnt really still a solid proof that they are really earning that money.

This is why it would really be ideal that you should really not make yourself that getting involved on watching up these clowns and just tending to hype you up
and make out some deposits on the site that they are really that advertising. Stick into your sense on which this would really be the key.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Saint-loup on October 25, 2023, 09:29:07 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
There is no gambling streamers on Twitch anymore because Twitch has namely banned several big casinos Stake, Rollbit, Duelbits and Roobet last year, along with Blaze and Gamdom added this summer, and now only allows casinos not namely banned which are not "unlicensed in the U.S. or other jurisdictions that offer consumer protections like deposit limits, waiting periods, and age verification systems."
Nowadays, the only big casino I see on Twitch is BC.GAME and the only gambling streamer I follow is Mandy (https://www.twitch.tv/mandy).  

https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Prohibiting-Unsafe-Slots-Roulette-and-Dice-Gambling-Sites


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Vaculin on October 25, 2023, 09:34:12 PM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Casino streaming has been very in demand these days to the point that a lot of fake streamers are coming out. And for me, they're not causing me any harm since I don't easily fall on their fake testimonies. Well, we can actually take some time listening to them but it's up to us if we will agree with them or not. At the end of the day, we play our own games using our own strategies and not adopting theirs.

Just put it on your mind that these casino streamers are nothing but are only doing their job since they received good compensation from doing it. And they are not actually helping us, but they are just helping their own casino that become their sponsors.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: lionheart78 on October 25, 2023, 10:42:12 PM
The reason is that most of those streamers are fake and do not play the real games all is being acted, It is a script just like the movies, don't take them seriously because they will only mislead you into believing in something that doesn't exist and that is too much of a risk to take at some point.
Don't get me wrong, we may have a few streamers who may be legit in they approach but then the rate of those that get their legit shit on are few compared to the acted ones.

Well streamers are streaming because they wanted to make profit of their streams.  There is no doubt that many streams are scripted, even the famous youtubers create a scripted videos and upload them, so these gambling streamers maybe not different from them.

The fact that they are playing with sponsored money and reacting all happily shouting and jumping is obviously all an act.  Many of them are even overly exaggerating.  So we must really not believe everything that we watch on social media platform.  Most of them are orchestrated.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Wiwo on October 25, 2023, 11:14:00 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him, if not I don't.
Just like in every space of life,  once there is an original,  there sure be fake and when it comes to online a lot of things that we see online are not real don't that depending solely on information that we get from online such as streamers and other promotional shows,  shouldn't be taken seriously.

There are gambles so as that you have to approach them the best way possible this is because by so doing you avoid getting into avoidable troubles that the misinformation could have cost you.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: dansus021 on October 26, 2023, 02:29:36 AM
Kick owned by the same owner of Stake.com maybe they let one or two stream slip hahhah. You can actually just report them bro because usually streaming service dont allow the streamer play casino and when you report it they will banned, so when you found just report them. Fake casino or fake trading usually comes everywhere even on facebook and youtube because they paid for doing so, Report and forget.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: slapper on October 26, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
I think there's nothing new in that, anyone who spends some time within the industry would come to know that all those streamers gambling with surprisingly high bets are basically either using fake money or sponsored money since no one with the right mindset would start betting with a base bet of $1,000 unless they are millionaires and don't care about losing a few hundred thousand dollars every month in gambling which also doesn't sound realistic.

They are popular because people love watching gamblers gambling with high bets just to see the outcomes of each bet and how much they manage to win and lose at the end of the session. The reason why they do this is that they get paid for it, it's what they do for a living, they find sponsors for their streams and do what they ask them to do and get paid for it.
With having those kind of normal approach which had been applied with some common sense then you would really be mainly thinking that these streamers are really just that working for money or something that make them money and dealing up with gambling is really that totally opposing on what they are trying to do. Its true that once they do make out those thousand base bet on their wager then it would really be just that easy to assume out that they are whether have funded or those balances are really just that not a real money. THere's no way on telling it out not unless if they do make out that on point withdrawal but well it isnt really still a solid proof that they are really earning that money.

This is why it would really be ideal that you should really not make yourself that getting involved on watching up these clowns and just tending to hype you up
and make out some deposits on the site that they are really that advertising. Stick into your sense on which this would really be the key.
Streamers are in it for the money, particularly those in the wagering niche. Isn't everything about the money? And let's be honest: when they're placing such enormous wagers, it's easy, so easy, to believe that maybe, just maybe, it's not their money. It could be advertising. Maybe it's just for show. Who knows?!

But here's the problem, and I've seen this, I've seen this a lot: even if they show a withdrawal, even if they show that massive win, can we really, truly believe it's real? It is extremely difficult to say. And this is why, gentlemen and ladies, you must be so intelligent. Avoid falling for the hoopla. Do not allow them to entice you. Hold fast to your convictions and common reason. This is the key, the actual key. And remember, play secure at all times. The outside world is treacherous, but you have the intelligence to survive


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Lanatsa on October 26, 2023, 01:40:11 PM
I think there's nothing new in that, anyone who spends some time within the industry would come to know that all those streamers gambling with surprisingly high bets are basically either using fake money or sponsored money since no one with the right mindset would start betting with a base bet of $1,000 unless they are millionaires and don't care about losing a few hundred thousand dollars every month in gambling which also doesn't sound realistic.

They are popular because people love watching gamblers gambling with high bets just to see the outcomes of each bet and how much they manage to win and lose at the end of the session. The reason why they do this is that they get paid for it, it's what they do for a living, they find sponsors for their streams and do what they ask them to do and get paid for it.
With having those kind of normal approach which had been applied with some common sense then you would really be mainly thinking that these streamers are really just that working for money or something that make them money and dealing up with gambling is really that totally opposing on what they are trying to do. Its true that once they do make out those thousand base bet on their wager then it would really be just that easy to assume out that they are whether have funded or those balances are really just that not a real money. THere's no way on telling it out not unless if they do make out that on point withdrawal but well it isnt really still a solid proof that they are really earning that money.

This is why it would really be ideal that you should really not make yourself that getting involved on watching up these clowns and just tending to hype you up
and make out some deposits on the site that they are really that advertising. Stick into your sense on which this would really be the key.
Streamers are in it for the money, particularly those in the wagering niche. Isn't everything about the money? And let's be honest: when they're placing such enormous wagers, it's easy, so easy, to believe that maybe, just maybe, it's not their money. It could be advertising. Maybe it's just for show. Who knows?!

But here's the problem, and I've seen this, I've seen this a lot: even if they show a withdrawal, even if they show that massive win, can we really, truly believe it's real? It is extremely difficult to say. And this is why, gentlemen and ladies, you must be so intelligent. Avoid falling for the hoopla. Do not allow them to entice you. Hold fast to your convictions and common reason. This is the key, the actual key. And remember, play secure at all times. The outside world is treacherous, but you have the intelligence to survive
Its obvious that it isnt their money because if we do really just realistically be thinking up that they are basically just doing this for the sake of money or paycheck then its obvious that they cant really just that make those huge stakes or bets on which it would really be that pretty darn obvious that they are really that being funded because we know that if they are really just basically that depositing their own money then for sure it wont really be something as big on what we are commonly seeing which funds are really that extremely that big or something that unrealistic for an influencer to have or not to look below or that low
about their income which they cant really that that afford on spending it on gambling.

The possibilities about manipulated or rigged game results could really be there also, which it is really that hard to tell whether you are dealing with a fair site or not. If we do tend to look into those
streams then we would really be usually having that kind of observation or impression that those influencers are really that ended up on profitable or simply be able to
get huge profits or hit which it would be normally be able to make out that kind of interest and boost up and this is where their job is done well or this is something
that will really be that getting paid.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 26, 2023, 02:00:13 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him, if not I don't.
Just like in every space of life,  once there is an original,  there sure be fake and when it comes to online a lot of things that we see online are not real don't that depending solely on information that we get from online such as streamers and other promotional shows,  shouldn't be taken seriously.

There are gambles so as that you have to approach them the best way possible this is because by so doing you avoid getting into avoidable troubles that the misinformation could have cost you.
Totally agree with you, everything original has its fake version, though like i have said before, i don't usually engage myself in watching streams most especially, if it's something to do with casinos or gambling, since because at the end of the day, most of the games i play will still be almost 100 percent based on luck, so i do not see the necessity in wasting time and data on such event.

And like i said in my previous comment, the streaming industry is a very big one when it comes to money, so it is only normal that some people who has not what it takes will still want to have their way by trying to grab and eat a piece of the cake, in the end, we all need money, and there are many who don't care how they make the money, as long as money is made at the end of the day.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Sunderland on October 26, 2023, 06:12:42 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Not all streamers are bad or fake, some of them are real gamblers either and they are the same with us, just looking for profits with a special deposit bonus and gain popularity to make more money from it.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Eternad on October 26, 2023, 06:19:42 PM

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Most of the popular streamer doesn’t claim bonuses because have partnership money from the casino they are promoting plus the referral commission from all the viewer who will sign up using their referral link.

I agree that most of their giveaway is just fake especially if the reward will come from their pocket but some streamers is genuinely giving away since one of my friend manage to win on one of the casino streamers giveaway although the amount is not high since the streamer he is watching is not that extremely popular.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Yatsan on October 26, 2023, 06:25:01 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Not all streamers are bad or fake, some of them are real gamblers either and they are the same with us, just looking for profits with a special deposit bonus and gain popularity to make more money from it.
Most of the streamers who are promoting gambling platforms are just doing their job to earn money and there’s no problem with that as long as minors won’t be allowed to get involved. Those who are streaming platforms are not required to be as passionate as us for this industry. Their goal is to just promote a platform and if he happens to be really a gambler for that platform then that would be better. Some streamers are just making use of their popularity to pronote anything they are being paid for and that’s just fine for me. If they are not really a gambler then for sure they won’t be loved in such title as it is now; they play other games as well for sure which keeps their audiences still there.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on October 26, 2023, 08:07:32 PM
I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Not all streamers are bad or fake, some of them are real gamblers either and they are the same with us, just looking for profits with a special deposit bonus and gain popularity to make more money from it.
Most of the streamers who are promoting gambling platforms are just doing their job to earn money and there’s no problem with that as long as minors won’t be allowed to get involved. Those who are streaming platforms are not required to be as passionate as us for this industry. Their goal is to just promote a platform and if he happens to be really a gambler for that platform then that would be better. Some streamers are just making use of their popularity to pronote anything they are being paid for and that’s just fine for me. If they are not really a gambler then for sure they won’t be loved in such title as it is now; they play other games as well for sure which keeps their audiences still there.
But trying out to filter on the age of your viewers on said streaming platforms is almost that impossible or would really be that hard on which you cant really know on whose really behind those monitors and even if you do put up some disclaimer then there's no guarantee or assurance that there's no minor on which seeing your stream on which chances that there would really be those young minds that have seen with those things. This is what makes it hard but since you are really just that simply doing your job then it would really be that your least concern in this regard.

We know that in todays era or years where accessibility is already that too easy on spreading or market out services or companies or products that you are really that having.Hiring
up with those influencers with so much followers will really be fastening up the job and we are really that paying for that one.So its normal that their job would
really be giving out recommendations on the companies that they are promoting.As a viewer then we should really be that careful on choosing on whose the one we are really that following on.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: goinmerry on October 26, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

You should have your own way of determining if what you watch is crap or not.

Having a little experience playing at a casino shouldn't be a reason why that subject should be a big issue for you. It's not wrong to watch those streams but we all have common sense if what we really watch does make sense or is worth our time. Others just watch it for entertainment as it supposed to be.

Obviously, there are popular streamers, rising ones, and newbie streamers. Most of these streamers are on purpose of gathering lots of subscribers and views that's why they are hired or not by gambling sites, it doesn't matter as their revenue will come from the number of views per stream.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: paxmao on October 26, 2023, 09:23:31 PM
These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.
Yeah. That isn't happening anytime soon because these are the same platforms that allow viewers of all ages to watch game streams where real money can be used for various benefits such as FIFA packs, CS skins etc.

Their families are the only ones who can make sure that they don't get obsessed with any of that stuff basically.

I do not yet get why people collect things in general, it is just something that does not really click on me - I mean, other than collecting money  ;D But certainly I know people who will go through pains to find things like a carpenter's plane or certain physical items. What I mean is that if physical collections do not click with me, I won't even tell you about collecting digital items (other than art I guess).


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 11:27:32 PM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: lionheart78 on October 26, 2023, 11:35:30 PM

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Most of the popular streamer doesn’t claim bonuses because have partnership money from the casino they are promoting plus the referral commission from all the viewer who will sign up using their referral link.

True that how can one claim a bonus when they are sponsored by the casino?  I think aside from the agreed payment, streamers also earn some percentage of the winning amount.  The reason why many streamers joy looks so genuine because of this kind of setup.

I agree that most of their giveaway is just fake especially if the reward will come from their pocket but some streamers is genuinely giving away since one of my friend manage to win on one of the casino streamers giveaway although the amount is not high since the streamer he is watching is not that extremely popular.

Some streamers who happen to use their own money create a giveaway when they hit huge amounts of money on their session. We cannot deny the fact that most streamers are staging fake giveaways but there are still many streamers that are genuine when it comes to giveaways.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: gunhell16 on October 27, 2023, 03:06:33 AM
Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people! :)

at truth, this happens frequently to our gamers, who are gamblers at any casino we visit. And, as you say, we no longer notice it. Because the only thing we ever think about when we gamble is that we will be lucky, right?

The streamers will not promote a casino if they are not sponsored by it, unless they are certain that, in addition to getting paid, they will receive other perks for signing up through their link, one of which is a bonus commission.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Sunderland on October 27, 2023, 04:13:33 AM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

Nah, I will not dare to bet on that. Maybe not that hard to spot the difference between a real and fake streamer but not wise to accuse them wihout a legitimate proof.
Most of the evidences only come from a "hunch".

Also, some viewers who get the giveaways will denied about it hehe.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Shamm on October 27, 2023, 05:02:10 AM
Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people! :)

Yes we can not deny the fact that once we saw a winner on that gambling sites then like what you said we are jealous and we want to win too in order to feel what they felt. But we must remember that not all streamers are  real some of them are fake,  they gamble because the online casino paid them and that money they use to gamble is not from then cause it's sponsored by the owner of the sites and lastly it's hard to  believe why when the streamers will bet they will always win but If our turn we will loss. So there's a reason behind that thing for sure it's a drama not a real one.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on October 27, 2023, 07:17:47 AM
Streaming sites may be legit but the streamers and their contents are questionable. For the dollar, streamers will do whatever it takes, and considering that the streamers got online to get the dollars makes me even more suspicious on the content the streamers are streaming. Most of the contents we find in the internet today are not regulated and then platforms just open up to these streamers to stream. How can we tell whats real and whats fake. Don't believe everything you see on streaming sites.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Haunebu on October 27, 2023, 07:24:09 AM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?
Fake streamers usually advertise their sponsorship deals pretty blatantly which is why it's easy to identify them. However, it's very difficult to differentiate between a legit and fake streamer who aren't endorsed in any manner whatsoever.

I wouldn't bet on identifying such streamers though some bad actors can be easily identified thanks to obvious tells.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Reatim on October 27, 2023, 08:28:49 AM
Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people! :)

at truth, this happens frequently to our gamers, who are gamblers at any casino we visit. And, as you say, we no longer notice it. Because the only thing we ever think about when we gamble is that we will be lucky, right?
But there is no hurting if we will manage to check whom we are following because streamers are being paid with their client and they will say every possible things to attract players,
so better before looking for Luck best to look for good side first as remember if you were scammed there is no way that you can get back your money.
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The streamers will not promote a casino if they are not sponsored by it, unless they are certain that, in addition to getting paid, they will receive other perks for signing up through their link, one of which is a bonus commission.

lol even how they are certain , since it is their Work to stream or promote , they will seek for payment or else they will move to other client or opponent of that said site.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: arwin100 on October 27, 2023, 10:48:36 AM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?
Fake streamers usually advertise their sponsorship deals pretty blatantly which is why it's easy to identify them. However, it's very difficult to differentiate between a legit and fake streamer who aren't endorsed in any manner whatsoever.

I wouldn't bet on identifying such streamers though some bad actors can be easily identified thanks to obvious tells.

Streamers would provably promote something that can benefit them and they will not stream for nothing so for sure its hard to fine those streamers with huge following that doesn't accept any promotion because that's how they earn then sustain their channels. If no income will come to them for sure they will not last long on that career because for sure they leave and find another options that can give them guarantee income.

Maybe we can see these people with low following but I don't think their are people will spend some time watching those not famous streamers since usually people always go with the hype and those famous streamers got this that's why they usually watch them and possible can win on promotions they offer to their channels. I may bet on what they are promoting but I make sure that I'm in the right mind to follow my own strategy and not those strategies or info's they tell since obviously that's fake and might not work to us.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: GxSTxV on October 27, 2023, 11:18:28 AM
Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

There was a time when I started to question every streamer involved in high stakes gambling, especially the new channels and streamers betting heavy and without even caring around a million dollars in one session. It not only lacks enjoyment for us as viewers and enjoying the max win videos and emotional ones, but also those videos or streams seem so fake. Streams that aren't honest and claim to use real money hold no value for me and I won't waste my time watching or supporting them.

On the other hand, I have come across some streamers who play with smaller to average stakes, and some even with the minimum bet in games like Sweet Bonanza, Gates of Olympus, and Sugar Rush. I genuinely enjoy their videos. I remember one streamer that gamble on Roobet, and run a contest daily while he gamble I enjoyed watching him beside winning the prize couple time and been received to my Roobet account as tip.

For those fake casino streamers, do you think they are paid by the casino itself or just they were trying to get more views?


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Z390 on October 27, 2023, 11:26:04 AM
The fact part is EVERYBODY KNOWS

Like who doesn't know that those streamers are doing it to get paid? Either they are fake or real its all about the money, if not why the effort at all? It makes no sense to work for free without getting something in return, the fake ones will even shill gambling results that aren't real, to make people FOMO onto the casino and try their luck.

If gambling is that easy as how the streamers are making it look like, almost all gamblers will have become a millionaire, that's why you must not gamble base on what you see in screen, majority of those advert are not real, and the fact is it's not easy to win in a casino.

I have never watched an advert about casino saying "Try and test your luck, you might win or lose" it's always some rollers hitting the jackpot or gamblers jumping up because they just hit millions of dollars, all casinos adverts are not reality, they are all base on fantasy, it's left for gamblers to do the right thing.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: xSkylarx on October 27, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

I don't claim to be a veteran in the gambling world but what I mostly notice about those fake streamers is that their reactions the way they bet and the way they react to losses or winnings are very different. You could really see the difference between a fake and one that is not affected by the losses. I just recalled when after the pandemic there were tons of videos in  social media that in the end they were playing in a casino and the way they won some money was some sort of fake. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: redsun114 on October 27, 2023, 01:52:31 PM
With having those kind of normal approach which had been applied with some common sense then you would really be mainly thinking that these streamers are really just that working for money or something that make them money and dealing up with gambling is really that totally opposing on what they are trying to do. Its true that once they do make out those thousand base bet on their wager then it would really be just that easy to assume out that they are whether have funded or those balances are really just that not a real money. THere's no way on telling it out not unless if they do make out that on point withdrawal but well it isnt really still a solid proof that they are really earning that money.

This is why it would really be ideal that you should really not make yourself that getting involved on watching up these clowns and just tending to hype you up
and make out some deposits on the site that they are really that advertising. Stick into your sense on which this would really be the key.
Those are the things that make their viewers get influenced, they think that if you have a large bankroll, you can actually make money through gambling because those streamers actually make it look easy using high bets and ending up having more balance in their account when they are ending their stream from when they started it. These things make their viewers start gambling and try to use bankrolls as high as possible to possibly earn money through it and eventually end up losing all their money.

People who watch these streamers need to understand that whatever they see isn't always real and one can't have the same experience as them if they try to copy them and earn money, and even if a streamer is actually using real money, it's because they can afford to do it and they won't even be bothered even if they lose that money since they earn good enough.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Pmalek on October 27, 2023, 04:03:13 PM
But we must remember that not all streamers are  real some of them are fake,  they gamble because the online casino paid them and that money they use to gamble is not from then cause it's sponsored by the owner of the sites.
If you can't differentiate the real from the fake, it's safer if you consider it all bullshit, marketing, and casino hype. I know for a fact that casinos will pay people to create nonsense content for them. A guy I know got paid to create reviews for an online casino, and they deposited money into his casino account. His task was to play a certain game, write about his experience and post screenshots when he won. The idea is to show the world how easy it is to win.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hispo on October 27, 2023, 04:40:27 PM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.

Though, I would not be willing to bet my own money on trying to identify fake streamers among authentic ones.



Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: jordanw21 on October 27, 2023, 05:23:09 PM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.

Though, I would not be willing to bet my own money on trying to identify fake streamers among authentic ones.



Well, it's true, a lot of streamers - *won 40k* and their reaction: "hmmm ok" (when bankroll is 200k). But when you look at the best streamers (Rosh, for example) – they show emotions, they entertain because they know for they get paid for.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hispo on October 27, 2023, 11:40:09 PM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.

Though, I would not be willing to bet my own money on trying to identify fake streamers among authentic ones.



Well, it's true, a lot of streamers - *won 40k* and their reaction: "hmmm ok" (when bankroll is 200k). But when you look at the best streamers (Rosh, for example) – they show emotions, they entertain because they know for they get paid for.

Perhaps, one of the most important aspects of being a successful gambling streamer is not only to attract audience but also make people feel identified with the feelings you show, both when you lose and also when you win money.
If I was watching a streamer who reacted differently from what I would expect myself to react, then I do not think I would stay around watching them much longer.
Also, if the streamer is one who wagers amounts of money which I could have access to someday and actually managed to pull some big win, then it would feel further encouragedto join whatever casino he is playing on.

Just gambling and under reacting in front to people does not make sense, otherwise the audience would just log in their accounts and set the automated play with little or not balance, the streamer is the only difference in that scenario, he is a performer.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: pinggoki on October 28, 2023, 02:30:12 AM
I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.
If you want to really be good at identifying fakers, the best thing you can do is to be a faker yourself and no it's not something that you can learn for a month, you should be a faker ever since because there are nuances to emotions and facial movement and only fakers can identify other fakers. It's hard to identify fake emotions especially if you're a genuinely nice person that wants to believe that there's good in everyone plus there are other people that aren't really good with expressing what they're feeling so the way they deliver their reaction is kind of awkward that we will think that it's a fake one and that's why I believe that it's easier if you are a faker yourself to be able to identify fake laughs and fake reactions. That's not the rule though as common sense is a thing, there are others that don't bother hiding that they're faking.

The answer to your question regarding these casino streamers being popular is that they're all famous people that have influence on a variety of people that are watching their streams plus they're a cheaper way for casinos to hire to advertise their business and they get a ton of value out of it because streamers have a live audiences and that's the wet dream of any advertiser, a live audience that they can bombard with ads without the audiences being annoyed of it because they're favorite streamers are playing it, factor the fact that most famous streamers are bombastic and always interacting with their audiences which helps maintain attention span and more exposure for the casino advertisement.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: babygun on October 28, 2023, 02:44:11 AM
Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling  streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?
Fake streamers usually advertise their sponsorship deals pretty blatantly which is why it's easy to identify them. However, it's very difficult to differentiate between a legit and fake streamer who aren't endorsed in any manner whatsoever.

I wouldn't bet on identifying such streamers though some bad actors can be easily identified thanks to obvious tells.

Agreed but I think most streamers (fake and real) have some sort of sponsorships with casinos. I watched a lot of streamers before and always thought that all streamers played with their own money lol. It is not because they exagerate some expressions or feelings that they are fake also.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on October 28, 2023, 04:59:07 AM
Agreed but I think most streamers (fake and real) have some sort of sponsorships with casinos. I watched a lot of streamers before and always thought that all streamers played with their own money lol. It is not because they exagerate some expressions or feelings that they are fake also.

This is a normal collaboration between streamers and casino marketing parties. Casinos pay streamers to write reviews of their casinos. that it will help the casino to get more new players. and streamers can also benefit from members who register from their account referrals.
fake or real, I'm sure everyone is thinking about the benefits they can get from collaboration like that.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on October 28, 2023, 05:29:21 AM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: bluebit25 on October 28, 2023, 07:08:34 AM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
Yes, it is a great form of marketing that we are seeing appear on social platforms with many engaged users.

Not only gambling services but also any field can see this method applied, especially since the epidemic period is severe and online access is the only way to connect people together.

Returning to the issue of gambling and especially online gambling, we all know that every year bookmakers spend a lot of money on marketing activities, and hiring these KOLs is a small part of the plan they are aiming for, so there will also be many people with bad intentions who may be willing to spend more money to entice new people to come to them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Mauser on October 28, 2023, 07:51:48 AM

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

To be honest that is nothing really new, gambling has been part of the streamer community for a long time now. The first time I came across people streaming their gambling adventures and uploading videos to YouTube was back in 2016. It was a huge hype around CSGO skins and everybody wanted to open a case with a knife inside. The wierd thing was that most streamers weren't opening the official cases but rather visiting third party websites that offered their own cases. I always took the statistical approach to these loot boxes and you couldn't fully verify how likely it was go get a knife out of it. But then all these influencers and streamers where getting high value items regularly. It didn't make any sense and I stated away from these websites. After thousands of kids lost all their money it came out that the streamers owned these websites themselves and everything was fake. It was a huge scam after which I stopped believing in streamers and so called influencers. It's just another form of advertising trying to lure in new gamblers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: piebeyb on October 28, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Returning to the issue of gambling and especially online gambling, we all know that every year bookmakers spend a lot of money on marketing activities, and hiring these KOLs is a small part of the plan they are aiming for, so there will also be many people with bad intentions who may be willing to spend more money to entice new people to come to them.
Whatever it is to get traffic, it is certain that all the money will be spent on promotions and campaigns, whether it be to streamers or influencers, everything will definitely benefit the casino if they are able and dare to spend more money, the more money they spend, the more traffic they will get, like What we see is that there are lots of casino advertising campaigns in sports clubs or athletes and even artists, all to get traffic.

Smart bookies know how to form their marketing team so that building it requires a lot of money to run it, although sometimes not all casinos dare to spend a lot of money to run it because not everyone has the confidence and confidence that what they spend will make a profit big from getting traffic and new gamblers. but the fact is that they are really successful through their online casinos.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Kakmakr on October 28, 2023, 03:06:15 PM
Returning to the issue of gambling and especially online gambling, we all know that every year bookmakers spend a lot of money on marketing activities, and hiring these KOLs is a small part of the plan they are aiming for, so there will also be many people with bad intentions who may be willing to spend more money to entice new people to come to them.
Whatever it is to get traffic, it is certain that all the money will be spent on promotions and campaigns, whether it be to streamers or influencers, everything will definitely benefit the casino if they are able and dare to spend more money, the more money they spend, the more traffic they will get, like What we see is that there are lots of casino advertising campaigns in sports clubs or athletes and even artists, all to get traffic.

Smart bookies know how to form their marketing team so that building it requires a lot of money to run it, although sometimes not all casinos dare to spend a lot of money to run it because not everyone has the confidence and confidence that what they spend will make a profit big from getting traffic and new gamblers. but the fact is that they are really successful through their online casinos.

What is the use spending say $100 000 000 a month on marketing and having to tweak the RTP so that you get it back and in the process losing gamblers because your RTP is so sucky?

You have to retain the gamblers you get from the marketing and people that keep losing at a casino, will give up and leave. I see this happening at Stake.com, where they spend gazillions on marketing.... but the RTP sucks.  ::)


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Beparanf on October 28, 2023, 04:43:13 PM
Smart bookies know how to form their marketing team so that building it requires a lot of money to run it, although sometimes not all casinos dare to spend a lot of money to run it because not everyone has the confidence and confidence that what they spend will make a profit big from getting traffic and new gamblers. but the fact is that they are really successful through their online casinos.

Confidence on spending huge money is not the main issue but rather on where to get the capital that they can be use for huge marketing promotion. Most of the successful casino like Duelbits, Stake and Sportsbet is backed by private company with deep pockets that’s why they can afford huge scale marketing to boost their exposure.

Duelbits spend a lot on their major promotion such as Christmas event while maintaining their signature campaign and social media promotion. I believe small casino can compete to this since they have limited budget while players usually choose reputable casino that offers good bonuses and safety.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: macson on October 28, 2023, 06:14:27 PM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
The first rule in the world of the internet is don't easily believe anything you see on the internet, still have bad feelings about it (keep believing what you have experienced, not what you have just seen), streamers have now become the main job of some people and they are even willing to be paid just to make their viewers feel interested in what they are saying and they do, and it's all fake and what's worse is that currently there are quite a lot of influencers in crypto who make fake videos just to attract the interest of their audience, be careful with the influencers you watch.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on October 28, 2023, 06:45:47 PM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
The first rule in the world of the internet is don't easily believe anything you see on the internet, still have bad feelings about it (keep believing what you have experienced, not what you have just seen), streamers have now become the main job of some people and they are even willing to be paid just to make their viewers feel interested in what they are saying and they do, and it's all fake and what's worse is that currently there are quite a lot of influencers in crypto who make fake videos just to attract the interest of their audience, be careful with the influencers you watch.
Trust no one and this would really be that primary role when dealing on online world on which you would really be that be cautious because tons of users or scammers or fraud that we do have on online.
Even if you arent that dealing with those things, you could also make yourself do get involved with some potential fake things which you would really be that possibly be hooked up and ending up on losing money. Whatever forms it would be then it could possibly be able to get that kind of those things on which you should really be that wary and sensible on what things that needs to be done.
ADjust accordingly and see things whether it is worth to follow or something that needs to be avoided. Its impossible that you cant be able to assess on what are the things
that needs to be done.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Bushdark on October 28, 2023, 08:40:06 PM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
The first rule in the world of the internet is don't easily believe anything you see on the internet, still have bad feelings about it (keep believing what you have experienced, not what you have just seen), streamers have now become the main job of some people and they are even willing to be paid just to make their viewers feel interested in what they are saying and they do, and it's all fake and what's worse is that currently there are quite a lot of influencers in crypto who make fake videos just to attract the interest of their audience, be careful with the influencers you watch.
Curiosity to win big amount of funds when we are not patient can make us to take bad decisions that could lead us to the hand of fake streamers with the plan of luring us to a fake or scam casinos that would steal our money and have nothing left for us when we make deposit. Most time we might not know the shit we have out ourselves into until we can realize our mistake or make attempt to withdraw funds from the casino.

 It is important to ask questions and see other people's response even though it does not make any sense. Those whi are use to asking questions when they are lose in confusion will never miss there way but to those that are not ready to aks questions when they are lost may end up regretting after they finally make mistakes.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: erep on October 28, 2023, 09:22:18 PM
Curiosity to win big amount of funds when we are not patient can make us to take bad decisions that could lead us to the hand of fake streamers with the plan of luring us to a fake or scam casinos that would steal our money and have nothing left for us when we make deposit. Most time we might not know the shit we have out ourselves into until we can realize our mistake or make attempt to withdraw funds from the casino.
Usually beginners will be influenced by the content of fake streamers who promote gambling with the potential for high wins from each bet, the content shared will look convincing so that beginners will be tricked into depositing funds into gambling scams, in fact whatever bet you choose will still lose until you lose the funds. So be careful in browsing casino references on the internet and make sure you access trusted sources to get information on the list of the best reputable casinos, a lot of important information about gambling can be accessed on these forums on gambling boards rather than searching for unreliable sources on search engines.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on October 28, 2023, 09:41:03 PM
Streaming sites may be legit but the streamers and their contents are questionable. For the dollar, streamers will do whatever it takes, and considering that the streamers got online to get the dollars makes me even more suspicious on the content the streamers are streaming. Most of the contents we find in the internet today are not regulated and then platforms just open up to these streamers to stream. How can we tell whats real and whats fake. Don't believe everything you see on streaming sites.
Streaming plartforms such as youtube are great ways to educate and get numerous informations about specific things as it borders around the human research and discovery, but also just like the internet everything that has its good side can also be used by criminal and untrustworthy people just to achieve their own aims.

So yes even though we have great streaming tools the manipulation of the streamers themselves has made the whole thing look as if it is not worth the wait and watch since the information that they passed is not accurate or true and it does have an element of consistency in any way.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: khaled0111 on October 28, 2023, 11:34:20 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: lienfaye on October 29, 2023, 12:39:52 AM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
Indeed. These streamers are sponsored or given a credit to play a certain game to lure the people on how to play and win. They're getting traffic for doing so that is beneficial to the casino and to them too as they're well paid. Using a streamer to spread awareness is also a marketing strategy to attract the gamblers thinking it's not hard to win.

Therefore it's up to their followers if they going to believe or not because what you see is not often the case when you already tried it yourself.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Rabata on October 29, 2023, 01:01:32 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Nowadays every casino tries to conduct a competitive business and consequently they don't dare to spend money everywhere in the promotional field. Nowadays fake steamers create various gambling events to attract the attention of the gamblers so that the gamblers get inspired and come back to gambling again. And streamers can also benefit more. Streamers get paid by the casino and they also get paid by various video platforms. Considering all these factors, there are many streamers who are not all real. There are few who work only for streaming but mostly the work is done by fake streamers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Peanutswar on October 29, 2023, 05:19:28 AM
Most casinos right now are part of their marketing strategy is having streamers playing on their platform, those streamers are getting paid and have different funds for playing for their streams, This money are can easily spendable to them solely they cant withdraw and I don't know if they win the money they will give it back or use for another live streaming for the next day. This case now will depends on the streamers because at the end their goal is getting paid just to promote the platform, and I guess its better if the casino is scamming the streamers who promote those will be sued by the players. One of the factor why they cant arrest them because its crypto and some of the country does not have a full authorization with it, The only they can do is file a case, and will depends if they will be caught by the authorities of their countries.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Taskford on October 29, 2023, 07:23:52 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.
Nowadays every casino tries to conduct a competitive business and consequently they don't dare to spend money everywhere in the promotional field. Nowadays fake steamers create various gambling events to attract the attention of the gamblers so that the gamblers get inspired and come back to gambling again. And streamers can also benefit more. Streamers get paid by the casino and they also get paid by various video platforms. Considering all these factors, there are many streamers who are not all real. There are few who work only for streaming but mostly the work is done by fake streamers.

They usually do that to make sure that those gamblers who follow their channel is registered under their referral link that's why they usually help some series of events then potentially in long term they can still get something from them especially if those users will continue to gamble. There's so many ways for them to earn so if we are skeptical about them and didn't always go with anything they want to offer then much better if we could just unfollow them.

For sure we can't get anything good from them so much better to ignore there channels so that we can get more cleaner browsing and filter those good channels to follow. I know sometimes they are entertaining but that's their job and how they attract people so for sure they do all of that to gain supporters.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: vv181 on October 29, 2023, 07:26:44 AM
I've always assumed that most casino streamers were playing with sponsored money. If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a day and comes back to gamble again the next day as if nothing happened wouldn't that seem odd? We see it with crypto youtubers also. They will put on an exaggerated performance to sell you all kinds of products and after a dozen or so rugpulls they still act like the thing they're shilling for is the greatest thing ever. Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
~ streamers have now become the main job of some people and they are even willing to be paid just to make their viewers feel interested in what they are saying and they do, and it's all fake and what's worse is that currently there are quite a lot of influencers in crypto who make fake videos just to attract the interest of their audience, be careful with the influencers you watch.

What they do is not necessarily fake, but they just give the ability to attract people, hence the "influence" part as consequences came along. They know the pain point and, specifically the weakness of their audience's psychology. They have all the data related to what content works and what does not. They know what kind of concepts drive the most profit for both themselves and the client.

They can adjust and cooperate with that kind of content that drives the viewers to achieve their client's campaign. It just naturally of how it works. The problem with OP is rather the unethical practices.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Fortify on October 29, 2023, 07:57:58 AM
I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed (https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed)

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

It's actually near impossible for someone watching to determine whether the person who is playing online casinos is paid to do so or doing it from their own money. However logic dictates that there would be a tiny amount of genuine players, who are funding it themselves as a "hobby", are actually running these sort of channels. Poker sites are probably the exception, because there is a genuine level of skill and talent involved in this game, however even that can be rigged in many ways if the intention is to draw in new players (showing a higher number of wins than you might expect). However streamers putting out content where they just play slots all day should be considered highly suspicious, frankly I don't know how anyone finds them interesting.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: piebeyb on October 29, 2023, 08:43:17 AM
Therefore it's up to their followers if they going to believe or not because what you see is not often the case when you already tried it yourself.
I'm sure every follower probably knows that streamers do business with casino owners so winnings seem easy to manipulate, that's what makes it possible for most people to probably also feel defeat after experiencing it because what they see is that the big wins that streamers and influencers play are purely business, not winning. what is really real, the average win is fake.

There are also those who faithfully watch it because they are waiting for the giveaway that is given and not because they want to watch the fake win and there are also beginners who are new to playing and even new to gambling, usually they will believe that it is a real win but usually they will change their minds after they gamble because of it, sometimes the reality is bitterer than what is shown with decorations that look sweet.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: wiss19 on October 29, 2023, 06:34:14 PM
Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.
I thought they are restricted before? But yeah I also spot it. I guess this will lead for the Twitch to re-allow gambling streaming again on their platform. It depends on the streamer. Some I see can just lose until the end while some are like that you described. Maybe some are genuine because when we play, we also get the same pattern. I think it's possible to tell if the stream is staged or not.

Usually, you can spot it in their reaction. Great that you are concerned about the minors but also the adults too because they can also get tempted and they might lose their control. The only thing that we can do as a parent is monitor our kids and educate them about the hazards of gambling.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hispo on October 29, 2023, 06:34:21 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Webetcoins on October 29, 2023, 07:21:18 PM
Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
That's what they do, that's part of their job since they earn a living through this. I wonder why people would expect streamers with a high number of followers to actually be playing with their own money because it doesn't make sense. Why would they spend so much money on streaming, showing the website and everything, and getting nothing in return from the website or platform that they are promoting? They don't usually do that and they tend to hide everything if they ever need to show something because they charge for it.

So, we, as an audience, should know that they are doing this only to entertain us and also to promote the casino to us so that they can get some money from the sponsorship deal they've got from the casino. Most of them would also promote their referral links in their streams to earn a few extra bucks if someone signs up under them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Mahanton on October 29, 2023, 07:42:46 PM
Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
That's what they do, that's part of their job since they earn a living through this. I wonder why people would expect streamers with a high number of followers to actually be playing with their own money because it doesn't make sense. Why would they spend so much money on streaming, showing the website and everything, and getting nothing in return from the website or platform that they are promoting? They don't usually do that and they tend to hide everything if they ever need to show something because they charge for it.

So, we, as an audience, should know that they are doing this only to entertain us and also to promote the casino to us so that they can get some money from the sponsorship deal they've got from the casino. Most of them would also promote their referral links in their streams to earn a few extra bucks if someone signs up under them.
Doesnt really make sense indeed on which spending up money on gambling just because they are really that doing such stream for making money or income? It is really that totally contradictory. I dont know on whats up into your mind if you do have that kind of impression that they are making use of their own money knowing that gambling is a fast pace kind of activity and also you would really be that losing that huge in fastest manner also.
There's no point on playing with your own money and losing that big and just getting that ample amount of payment from the company that you are really that advertising on which it doesnt really that having no sense.
Fake casino streamers then we should really be that careful but it is really that hard to believe that those tons of followers or viewers of a said influencer then they cant really be just that too dumb on
running a fake stream because they do know that their reputation is really that at stake.

They are streaming for a company but of course the funds that being used would be theirs or simply means that they are being funded. One of the thing that we do also observe with these
streamers is that they do often win more than with other people or players? which you could also assume that there would be might some adjustments made.
We cant drawn out some conclusion but its not actually impossible.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Jemzx00 on October 29, 2023, 08:24:06 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.
It's hard not to assume that some or even most of these streams are not fabricated especially if the streamers are sponsored by these casinos. They start with an unusual amount of bankroll which they'll play continuously, most of what I've watched are slots, and they'll start slowly and later on hit a massive jackpot which they'll show on their highlights. Also, it's hard to comprehend that they mostly hit jackpots every gambling sessions and almost always to be on a positive profit even with just playing slots.

But, yeah, there are some gambler streamers out there that I enjoy watching and I do believe that they are playing with real odds, same as others, and playing partly with their money and sponsored funds from the casino.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on October 29, 2023, 10:28:57 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.
It's hard not to assume that some or even most of these streams are not fabricated especially if the streamers are sponsored by these casinos. They start with an unusual amount of bankroll which they'll play continuously, most of what I've watched are slots, and they'll start slowly and later on hit a massive jackpot which they'll show on their highlights. Also, it's hard to comprehend that they mostly hit jackpots every gambling sessions and almost always to be on a positive profit even with just playing slots.

But, yeah, there are some gambler streamers out there that I enjoy watching and I do believe that they are playing with real odds, same as others, and playing partly with their money and sponsored funds from the casino.
You would really be having that kind of thinking that its really that usually odd that these streamers are really that winning often on which you could really be able to say that there's something happening out there on which we dont know but there's no other ways that we could really be able to think but rather it would be possibly those games are rigged or being that fixed just for that influencer to have that good winning moments on which we know that once these big wins been hit then it is really that giving that positive vibes into those people who had been watching the stream
and ends up on making out that kind of deposit or registering but this is what they are really that working for on which getting registers and getting deposits.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hirose UK on November 02, 2023, 12:22:27 PM
Anytime there is a sponsorship involved with streamers it is very likely you are going to see a curated experience designed to attract new users to a product and not a genuine representation of what an average user might typically see.
That's what they do, that's part of their job since they earn a living through this. I wonder why people would expect streamers with a high number of followers to actually be playing with their own money because it doesn't make sense. Why would they spend so much money on streaming, showing the website and everything, and getting nothing in return from the website or platform that they are promoting? They don't usually do that and they tend to hide everything if they ever need to show something because they charge for it.

So, we, as an audience, should know that they are doing this only to entertain us and also to promote the casino to us so that they can get some money from the sponsorship deal they've got from the casino. Most of them would also promote their referral links in their streams to earn a few extra bucks if someone signs up under them.
A streamer gets paid quite lot for every promotion he carries out and do we know that the account used is a real account that requires depositing money if you want to play? No.
We never know the authenticity of each streaker's account and do you trust those who make big bets and even wins quite often?
I wouldn't trust a streamer and they are just people with big followers and use all of that to make money, after all the social media they use like YouTube will also give them big payouts.

Well, that true and don't assume that a stremer is willing to spend large amounts of money for free.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 02, 2023, 12:38:20 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.
It's hard not to assume that some or even most of these streams are not fabricated especially if the streamers are sponsored by these casinos. They start with an unusual amount of bankroll which they'll play continuously, most of what I've watched are slots, and they'll start slowly and later on hit a massive jackpot which they'll show on their highlights. Also, it's hard to comprehend that they mostly hit jackpots every gambling sessions and almost always to be on a positive profit even with just playing slots.

But, yeah, there are some gambler streamers out there that I enjoy watching and I do believe that they are playing with real odds, same as others, and playing partly with their money and sponsored funds from the casino.
You would really be having that kind of thinking that its really that usually odd that these streamers are really that winning often on which you could really be able to say that there's something happening out there on which we dont know but there's no other ways that we could really be able to think but rather it would be possibly those games are rigged or being that fixed just for that influencer to have that good winning moments on which we know that once these big wins been hit then it is really that giving that positive vibes into those people who had been watching the stream
and ends up on making out that kind of deposit or registering but this is what they are really that working for on which getting registers and getting deposits.
That's the only thing we can think of. Watching the streamers gambling or as they promote a certain online casino, they often win which we all know is an impossible thing to happen. We have no idea what they do or whether the account being used is real or a demo account.

But all we know is that they are showing off their winnings to influence their viewers to try the gambling site they promote as they are getting paid and can gamble without using their own money.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Johnyz on November 02, 2023, 01:01:00 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.
Their purpose is to market a specific site and yes its all about the positive side because if they expose the negative side of the site the gamblers will not follow them anymore and they will not make profit because the site will not pay them as well. Also, some account of those streamers are being managed by the site itself so for sure it is being customized so they can have a good win during their streaming. Don't believe on any streamer easily, they are doing it on purpose for their own benefit.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Eureka_07 on November 02, 2023, 01:22:06 PM
<snip>
I mean, would you believe a casino article if the author fails to write the correct name of the slot?
Quote
Drake and Roshtein playing Wanted Dear or a Wild by Hacksaw Gaming
It should be "Dead". Could this be a typo? Maybe, but don't he have any time to review the article?

Streamers have contracts with the casino that they are advertising (or their sponsors). It varies, some offers a percentage of winnings, affiliate rewards, number of views, etc.

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Beparanf on November 02, 2023, 02:07:50 PM

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.

Correct, I’m confused why the article focus much on proving that streamer is doing fake game as popular while the real intention of streaming is to entertain user by watching the streamer playing the game regardless if they are using real money or not since the reaction of streamers is makes this kind of stream popular and not the money alone since anyone can use fake and stream but they can’t guarantee that there will be a viewers if the streamer doesn’t have pleasing personality.



Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: jordanw21 on November 02, 2023, 03:45:17 PM

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.

Correct, I’m confused why the article focus much on proving that streamer is doing fake game as popular while the real intention of streaming is to entertain user by watching the streamer playing the game regardless if they are using real money or not since the reaction of streamers is makes this kind of stream popular and not the money alone since anyone can use fake and stream but they can’t guarantee that there will be a viewers if the streamer doesn’t have pleasing personality.



You know that most of the streamers' audience was young people who were just watching them playing games like GTA RP or CS GO? And then those streamers made them gamblers by playing....with fake money.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Lanatsa on November 02, 2023, 07:46:20 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.
It's hard not to assume that some or even most of these streams are not fabricated especially if the streamers are sponsored by these casinos. They start with an unusual amount of bankroll which they'll play continuously, most of what I've watched are slots, and they'll start slowly and later on hit a massive jackpot which they'll show on their highlights. Also, it's hard to comprehend that they mostly hit jackpots every gambling sessions and almost always to be on a positive profit even with just playing slots.

But, yeah, there are some gambler streamers out there that I enjoy watching and I do believe that they are playing with real odds, same as others, and playing partly with their money and sponsored funds from the casino.
You would really be having that kind of thinking that its really that usually odd that these streamers are really that winning often on which you could really be able to say that there's something happening out there on which we dont know but there's no other ways that we could really be able to think but rather it would be possibly those games are rigged or being that fixed just for that influencer to have that good winning moments on which we know that once these big wins been hit then it is really that giving that positive vibes into those people who had been watching the stream
and ends up on making out that kind of deposit or registering but this is what they are really that working for on which getting registers and getting deposits.
That's the only thing we can think of. Watching the streamers gambling or as they promote a certain online casino, they often win which we all know is an impossible thing to happen. We have no idea what they do or whether the account being used is real or a demo account.

But all we know is that they are showing off their winnings to influence their viewers to try the gambling site they promote as they are getting paid and can gamble without using their own money.
On the time that you do find yourself that making up some bettings or following on making up some register on the site then it would be always recommendable that you should really be that always considering on taking up some research first before making such act because if you do rush up on making deposits without even trying to look about the sites reputation then it would really be that risky. People do usually get blinded on what they are seeing on the front specially if those streamers are really racking up some serious cash or money then this what makes it really hard to resist on not to do the same thing.

I've been through tons of experience on seeing those streamers online and really that marketing on the company on which they've been hired on. We cant really be able to point out whether those funds
are really that theirs or being funded but most likely they are really that getting funded on which it is really that impossible that they would really be that making use of their own money.
They cant really just that afford on losing that big time and also they've been doing this just for them to get paid and there's no sense that they would heavily be spending it on gambling.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Silberman on November 02, 2023, 08:35:28 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.
Their purpose is to market a specific site and yes its all about the positive side because if they expose the negative side of the site the gamblers will not follow them anymore and they will not make profit because the site will not pay them as well. Also, some account of those streamers are being managed by the site itself so for sure it is being customized so they can have a good win during their streaming. Don't believe on any streamer easily, they are doing it on purpose for their own benefit.
Whenever there is money involved we should be incredibly careful about whatever offer that we listen to, and this is because there are many people out there that are not above doing anything in order to get it, personally I have no problem with those that promote gambling or a casino in particular as long as they are honest about it and they expose the cons and the pros of doing so, but when a person engages in shady behavior or outright lies about it that is when I think this is wrong, and unfortunately there are many influencers that engage in behaviors like that.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Onyeeze on November 02, 2023, 09:08:33 PM

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.

Correct, I’m confused why the article focus much on proving that streamer is doing fake game as popular while the real intention of streaming is to entertain user by watching the streamer playing the game regardless if they are using real money or not since the reaction of streamers is makes this kind of stream popular and not the money alone since anyone can use fake and stream but they can’t guarantee that there will be a viewers if the streamer doesn’t have pleasing personality.
If streamers is being fake thats means some of the casino will be fake but its unbelievable that what streamers do stream is fake whereas its something people do watch to attract popularity to that particular casino, does it mean that some casinos is fake and secondly, theirs something I want to ask,  do we play casinos and also do we believe on the streamers that much, or we go ahead and test the casino and cross check how is the casino, sometimes.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Wiwo on November 02, 2023, 09:09:41 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.
Their purpose is to market a specific site and yes its all about the positive side because if they expose the negative side of the site the gamblers will not follow them anymore and they will not make profit because the site will not pay them as well. Also, some account of those streamers are being managed by the site itself so for sure it is being customized so they can have a good win during their streaming. Don't believe on any streamer easily, they are doing it on purpose for their benefit.
The money is the main aim of streaming and that is another form of promotion but in a ringed way because everything that is displayed by the streamers is mostly made-up stories and games that are all doctored just to make the session look real to unsuspecting viewers and since they get paid a lot for doing so,  it makes it highly lucrative to be a streamer to some of those fake casinos.

Nothing that a project won't do to make out promotion and marketing and most times as you have rightly said,  the streamer has it in his palms all that has been scripted for him to act on and nothing more some of them don't even stream from their real accounts.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Taskford on November 02, 2023, 10:14:15 PM

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.

Correct, I’m confused why the article focus much on proving that streamer is doing fake game as popular while the real intention of streaming is to entertain user by watching the streamer playing the game regardless if they are using real money or not since the reaction of streamers is makes this kind of stream popular and not the money alone since anyone can use fake and stream but they can’t guarantee that there will be a viewers if the streamer doesn’t have pleasing personality.
If streamers is being fake thats means some of the casino will be fake but its unbelievable that what streamers do stream is fake whereas its something people do watch to attract popularity to that particular casino, does it mean that some casinos is fake and secondly, theirs something I want to ask,  do we play casinos and also do we believe on the streamers that much, or we go ahead and test the casino and cross check how is the casino, sometimes.

No you can't correlate that since there are reputable casino pay those influential guys to increase the awareness of people that their casino exist and they don't have any control towards the decision making of those streamers since there work relationship is just for promoting them on livestream and nothing else more than that. If the streamer is doing or claiming something unrealistic then I don't think that its a mistake of casino since the one who did that is those streamers which is going after for more signups so that they can earn a lot of money thru referrals. That's the reason why we need to be open minded on possibilities especially on what they are promoting so that we can be aware that they are just telling a lie and never be trusted in terms of financial aspects.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: so98nn on November 03, 2023, 11:05:33 AM
<snip>
I mean, would you believe a casino article if the author fails to write the correct name of the slot?
Quote
Drake and Roshtein playing Wanted Dear or a Wild by Hacksaw Gaming
It should be "Dead". Could this be a typo? Maybe, but don't he have any time to review the article?

Streamers have contracts with the casino that they are advertising (or their sponsors). It varies, some offers a percentage of winnings, affiliate rewards, number of views, etc.

What was the intention of the article? Who wrote the article?
The site is ltccasino, and probably they are targeting Stake streamers, so that readers could play on this casino instead of Stake (which mentioned streamers are advertising).

This article does not have a 100% intention to inform, but to steal players from another casino.

Everyhting on the internet seems to be one of the ways to market and grab the customers. That could be any form of marketing either negative or positive. If it is a negative pattern then obviously they will start talking negatively about the other players in the market no matter how big or small they are. Those streamers or inducers will always get paid to do their job. Some of them are even seen doing stuff for a one-time payment and their videos keep playing forever. In a similar fashion comes positive marketing with positive talks about the requested entity.

However, the discussion is that whether they are doing their jobs honestly or not. The end result is they are not. They are simply getting paid for the script and there are only a few or rare channels that would talk about the reality of other companies or for whom they are streaming. Best option is to choose the streams from their official websites (casino's official stream).


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: redsun114 on November 03, 2023, 12:14:44 PM
A streamer gets paid quite lot for every promotion he carries out
They do, based on the number of followers or subscribers they have because the effectiveness of the promotion will depend on how much their reach is which is what promoters look for.

and do we know that the account used is a real account that requires depositing money if you want to play? No.
Obviously not, you will barely find a streamer who is promoting a casino and using their own money for their gambling activities, the casino that is paying them for the stream gives them balance to play with as well which is just so that people stay engaged and don't get bored because small bets on a stream would obviously make you bored.

We never know the authenticity of each streaker's account and do you trust those who make big bets and even wins quite often?
We don't. but general knowledge and indications tell us that they don't gamble with their own money but it's either fake money given by the casino officials that isn't withdrawable.

I wouldn't trust a streamer and they are just people with big followers and use all of that to make money, after all the social media they use like YouTube will also give them big payouts.
There is basically no matter of trust here, a streamer is an entertainer, and they do things only to entertain their audience and that is what they do in this case as well.

Well, that true and don't assume that a stremer is willing to spend large amounts of money for free.
Obviously not, and they don't need to. If they want to gamble for themselves, they can always do that off-stream.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: piebeyb on November 03, 2023, 12:40:59 PM
But all we know is that they are showing off their winnings to influence their viewers to try the gambling site they promote as they are getting paid and can gamble without using their own money.
Yes, that is the true fact of most streamers and influencers, usually they are paid to play gambling live streaming and their winnings are usually manipulated and the winnings are regulated so it is easy for casinos to organize fake games with streamers and influencers in order to attract new gamblers to their casinos. Usually, by showing off their big wins, people will definitely want big wins like that, but the fact is that when they play they never get any wins.

I think many people know about this problem because it is always discussed everywhere that streamers are fake and don't play with real money directly, even though of course the money used is money from the casino which is provided for streamers to play, whether it's demo money or real money.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 03, 2023, 05:39:06 PM
The more popularity they get, the more money they can earn. It could be the reason that those casinos that those streamers are gambling are paying them to play and stream that on the streaming site. Do you want a professional doing everything professionally and managing everything flawlessly or do you want someone who is not familiar enough with the casino and by playing they will learn the process and in that process there will also show other people how it is done from the ground up? If I were running the business I obviously choose the second option.

When people do stuff with other people, they feel connected and will do the same. That's why they hire newbie players and those who follow that newbie player will eventually follow him and also play at that casino. Something they call paid promotion. When a professional player does it, people won't really understand this struggle and how to deal with difficult situations if they ever face it. This is the reason the newbie players are popular.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oilacris on November 03, 2023, 05:55:27 PM
Streamers are nothing else but players just like you but with the exception that they have many followers on social medias and specifically on their streaming platforms. As I said they are gamblers just like me and you but they will never share their losses. They will only share with you some exceptional moments when they make big wins. What's more interesting is that most of what they share with you is not true and it's all been faked. They are being paid to show you those exceptional moments and in reality they never lose anything.

But what about if the Streamer is someone who usually gambles on live, instead just uploading cut part of their gambling sessions?
There is a reason why it is more exciting for people in general to see gambling streamers in platforms like Twitch or similar, it is because they assume it is less likely whatever they are watching is fabricated or scripted and the person gambling is not faking their emotions. Though, in reality we all know that there are still ways for streamers to partake in apparent gambling but without having to put their own money at stake, as many people have mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps you are a person who rather to follow the highlights of streamers, instead watching their whole hours-long show. Nothing wrong about it, of course.
It's hard not to assume that some or even most of these streams are not fabricated especially if the streamers are sponsored by these casinos. They start with an unusual amount of bankroll which they'll play continuously, most of what I've watched are slots, and they'll start slowly and later on hit a massive jackpot which they'll show on their highlights. Also, it's hard to comprehend that they mostly hit jackpots every gambling sessions and almost always to be on a positive profit even with just playing slots.

But, yeah, there are some gambler streamers out there that I enjoy watching and I do believe that they are playing with real odds, same as others, and playing partly with their money and sponsored funds from the casino.
You would really be having that kind of thinking that its really that usually odd that these streamers are really that winning often on which you could really be able to say that there's something happening out there on which we dont know but there's no other ways that we could really be able to think but rather it would be possibly those games are rigged or being that fixed just for that influencer to have that good winning moments on which we know that once these big wins been hit then it is really that giving that positive vibes into those people who had been watching the stream
and ends up on making out that kind of deposit or registering but this is what they are really that working for on which getting registers and getting deposits.
That's the only thing we can think of. Watching the streamers gambling or as they promote a certain online casino, they often win which we all know is an impossible thing to happen. We have no idea what they do or whether the account being used is real or a demo account.

But all we know is that they are showing off their winnings to influence their viewers to try the gambling site they promote as they are getting paid and can gamble without using their own money.
Pretty sure on which they arent really that making use of their own money on the time that they do gamble on which im pretty much assure when it comes to that.
The only thing that we dont really know if those amounts are really that real or not or even speaking about the fairness of the games which it is really that odd that they do often
winning. We do know that there are indeed streamers on which they arent really that worth on watching of,  and there are ones whose really that something that not entertaining at all.
The important thing on here is that you arent really that easily get hooked when everytime that there's something new that you do encounter, doesnt matter on what it is.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: danherbias07 on November 04, 2023, 03:20:08 PM
I don't believe such things like this and I will never be.
Play the games and you will see for yourself how awful the number of multiwin is being given in a series of bets. Sometimes bonuses won't even occur in thousands of bets and I have seen it. And there are also times when I check my graph where the red mark downward is falling sharply which should not happen if RTP is real.
Just yesterday I left my game running with an amount that could cover 2000 auto bets and when I came home I saw how the graph is steep down without a single resistance. So these streamers are mostly fake, either demos or they are part of the promotion of the gambling site and I look at them as just simulations of how a game will work. I don't rely on them or try to mimic them thinking I will hit the same amount as they did. That's impossible. Casino games and slot games have a house edge that is unthinkable to defeat unless you get it by a lucky chance and then withdraw.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Hirose UK on November 04, 2023, 06:03:33 PM
A streamer gets paid quite lot for every promotion he carries out
They do, based on the number of followers or subscribers they have because the effectiveness of the promotion will depend on how much their reach is which is what promoters look for.
That why many streamers actively broadcast what they do in gambling and provide reference links that can be used by all their followers, and when they don't have enough followers it is impossible to broadcast gambling sessions because it will only be in vain and too consuming many losses.
In the sense that streamers who already have lot of followers are streamers who can make bigger profits in various places.

and do we know that the account used is a real account that requires depositing money if you want to play? No.
Obviously not, you will barely find a streamer who is promoting a casino and using their own money for their gambling activities, the casino that is paying them for the stream gives them balance to play with as well which is just so that people stay engaged and don't get bored because small bets on a stream would obviously make you bored.
Yes, that what I mean the casino has prepared everything from the account to the capital used for betting.
After all, streamers do it to make a profit so it impossible for them to have to spend more money than the profits they can get, and what more, 80% of a streamer gaming session is win whereas when gambling normally it impossible to get up to an 80% chance of winning.

I wouldn't trust a streamer and they are just people with big followers and use all of that to make money, after all the social media they use like YouTube will also give them big payouts.
There is basically no matter of trust here, a streamer is an entertainer, and they do things only to entertain their audience and that is what they do in this case as well.
I think it not about entertaining the audience but rather to attract the audience interest and curiosity so that they want to register and play by accessing the site from the link that has been provided.
Everything is about money everything is related to business so they don't do it as if they were just entertainers.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Davidvictorson on November 04, 2023, 06:39:32 PM
Twitch streamers with very large following are sponsored by several casinos. This is something that I have strongly believed for a long time. Another belief about streamers with large following is that the money they use to bet is not theirs so even when they lose they win because one of the casinos who sponsor them pays them so they may get ad revenue.

Another reason why they are popular is that they win a lot of money. They do something like a Q&A which attracts newbies and their popularity increases.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Silberman on November 05, 2023, 07:24:47 PM
Twitch streamers with very large following are sponsored by several casinos. This is something that I have strongly believed for a long time. Another belief about streamers with large following is that the money they use to bet is not theirs so even when they lose they win because one of the casinos who sponsor them pays them so they may get ad revenue.

Another reason why they are popular is that they win a lot of money. They do something like a Q&A which attracts newbies and their popularity increases.
It makes sense for casinos to sponsor those influencers as they can reach an audience that they cannot, so influencers can bring them a lot of customers they may have not gotten otherwise, but at the same time it seems to me some influencers do this in a way that is not correct, as they promote gambling by saying a bunch of things they know cannot be true, and people believing on their words start to gamble and they feel cheated when they find out that what they were told were a bunch of lies.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on November 06, 2023, 02:58:06 PM
Streamers are just doing their jobs, they get paid doing this and they don't even need to invest in whatever they are feeding the public and they don't have to gamble on any exchange to make them drop their true experience, when money is involved they will talk good things about the platform, you should never take their words very serious because they are getting paid.

You will never come across any casino spending money on their advertisement and telling the audience that they need to gamble once in a while or when they have the money they can afford to lose, that's why in their adverts it's always about someone hitting the jackpot and winning, people need to wake up, that's just for the advert purpose, it's possible to win but the chances of getting the same experience you saw in streamers is very low.

They all know this but telling the world will make many people to reconsider gambling, or probably limit the amount that they are risking on gambling, it has to look like glittering heaven so that people can give it a try, but not all that glitters are made of gold, be careful with gambling, there is no real shortcut to make life changing money.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 06, 2023, 03:43:33 PM
Twitch streamers with very large following are sponsored by several casinos. This is something that I have strongly believed for a long time. Another belief about streamers with large following is that the money they use to bet is not theirs so even when they lose they win because one of the casinos who sponsor them pays them so they may get ad revenue.

Another reason why they are popular is that they win a lot of money. They do something like a Q&A which attracts newbies and their popularity increases.
It makes sense for casinos to sponsor those influencers as they can reach an audience that they cannot, so influencers can bring them a lot of customers they may have not gotten otherwise, but at the same time it seems to me some influencers do this in a way that is not correct, as they promote gambling by saying a bunch of things they know cannot be true, and people believing on their words start to gamble and they feel cheated when they find out that what they were told were a bunch of lies.

And that's why they are called influencers and this is the job for the many individuals now specially with the advent of social media. These so called influencer is not known in the beginning, but as they become famous and reaching far wide audience, sooner or later a casino will approach them with a good offer to promote them in their streams. And with that it's a dream come true for influencers as they could be making tons of money and at the same time still enjoying what they are doing even if it is fake money. And as long as the casino is benefiting from them, they will continue with that kind of partnership, so win-win. Hopefully, there will be gamblers that can easily spot which one is fake and whether they want to continue to watch those streams or believed in them.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: coupable on November 06, 2023, 08:12:27 PM
I think it's easy to spot fake streamers because they won't post a gambling stake without showing that they're making big profits in order to encourage people to use the platform they're promoting. As far as I know, this is what most streamers do in coordination with the platform, because it would be useless for streamers to display their gambling in which they will lose or in which they lose more than they win.
Gambling platforms are among the biggest beneficiaries of these services because it is an easy and effective way for them to hire people to promote them instead of paying huge sums of money in advertising to introduce their platform.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Fatunad on November 06, 2023, 08:22:59 PM
Twitch streamers with very large following are sponsored by several casinos. This is something that I have strongly believed for a long time. Another belief about streamers with large following is that the money they use to bet is not theirs so even when they lose they win because one of the casinos who sponsor them pays them so they may get ad revenue.

Another reason why they are popular is that they win a lot of money. They do something like a Q&A which attracts newbies and their popularity increases.
It makes sense for casinos to sponsor those influencers as they can reach an audience that they cannot, so influencers can bring them a lot of customers they may have not gotten otherwise, but at the same time it seems to me some influencers do this in a way that is not correct, as they promote gambling by saying a bunch of things they know cannot be true, and people believing on their words start to gamble and they feel cheated when they find out that what they were told were a bunch of lies.

And that's why they are called influencers and this is the job for the many individuals now specially with the advent of social media. These so called influencer is not known in the beginning, but as they become famous and reaching far wide audience, sooner or later a casino will approach them with a good offer to promote them in their streams. And with that it's a dream come true for influencers as they could be making tons of money and at the same time still enjoying what they are doing even if it is fake money. And as long as the casino is benefiting from them, they will continue with that kind of partnership, so win-win. Hopefully, there will be gamblers that can easily spot which one is fake and whether they want to continue to watch those streams or believed in them.
You wouldn't really be called an influencer if you do really just have a small amount number of followers or even getting your first one. You would really be called an influencer on the time that you have that corresponding numbers and i doubt that they would really be doing such foolishness on trying out to take advantage into their followers and showing up some or advertising or recommending some scam sites.
Getting that kind of title or getting such job wont really be that so easy, so its really that a foolish thing that you would really be just wasting all of those hard work or efforts for some mere amounts.
Also its never been ethical on doing it on the first place.

This is why as a gambler it would really be that better that you shouldnt really be making yourself a fan on watching out these streams. Legit or fake, it doesnt matter.
It is really just that simply out of my scope of interest which we know that majority of us wont really be having that care
on the things that they've been streaming. For noobs then yes but veteran ones then they would just simply be ignored.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Pierre 2 on November 06, 2023, 08:40:45 PM
I think casino streamers on twitch are generally generating great amount of money to casinos which sponsor them. I remember watching many different things they do on stream like, drops or just regular card games. Rewards always seem sort of fake but as I explained they win a lot and pull people to casino businesses.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Silberman on November 09, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
I think casino streamers on twitch are generally generating great amount of money to casinos which sponsor them. I remember watching many different things they do on stream like, drops or just regular card games. Rewards always seem sort of fake but as I explained they win a lot and pull people to casino businesses.
Since the pandemic we have seen a strong increase on the interest people have to gamble online, while at the same time the influence of social media stars has gotten way stronger as well, so casinos have found the perfect way to increase their customer base for a reasonable price, however I wonder how long will this last? Because as we know AI has been breaking new ground and there are already AI generated influencers which could replace human influencers on the future.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 10, 2023, 12:00:11 AM
Twitch streamers with very large following are sponsored by several casinos. This is something that I have strongly believed for a long time. Another belief about streamers with large following is that the money they use to bet is not theirs so even when they lose they win because one of the casinos who sponsor them pays them so they may get ad revenue.

Another reason why they are popular is that they win a lot of money. They do something like a Q&A which attracts newbies and their popularity increases.
It makes sense for casinos to sponsor those influencers as they can reach an audience that they cannot, so influencers can bring them a lot of customers they may have not gotten otherwise, but at the same time it seems to me some influencers do this in a way that is not correct, as they promote gambling by saying a bunch of things they know cannot be true, and people believing on their words start to gamble and they feel cheated when they find out that what they were told were a bunch of lies.

Well, you could say that yes, you are very right in what you say, in a while I hardly watched streamers again, because I also thought that, that they are people who have a lot of hearing and that they no longer care about telling lies, just with having a lot more money in their pockets, but I think this is an issue of ethics because when things are like this you Cannot establish any type of validity, I would not trust a person who tells me lies and is an influencer, of course. In fact, the best example of this is what happened in 2021 with the famous NFTs where many people were deceived, they were scammed, some lost a lot of money, I even saw that some influencers on YouTube were also deceived, so I saw many Youtubers who were actually quite reckless. to put any project only because they were given some money, and that cannot be like that, because who is going to rely on the information they give? who? If things are quite clear there.


I saw a Spanish Youtuber who never showed his face, but who talked and talked about his investments, but always when he was there it was something funny, because one of the things he said was that those NFT gaming projects looked like they were crazy , he gave them money for the projects he took out, it's actually something very crazy that he said, but if we base it on the fact that the projects when they are small or at the beginning they start to earn and the money that invests a lot could withdraw, well I think that was what he He said , take an incoming project, knowing that it will not come in the future, put some money into it and then withdraw it after 2 days, and that happens, as he did something like that and it went well, but even so he gets better out of it because it is something that is not I see bad, but it is something very risky, for example I know that there are people who can afford that luxury and if they lose money then it Doesn't matter, but I don't, I do take care of my money and a person who knows like that, how can you trust me? This was a Youtuber on Twitch, I don't want to Imagine.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: alegotardo on November 10, 2023, 01:02:46 AM
We as gamers love following top digital influencers who keep us updated with the latest tips, strategies, information, events, tournaments and many other details every day. This groundwork done by them motivates you to perform better at online casinos. But the biggest problem is; that some casino streamers are really authentic and believe in sustaining their channel by providing necessary content to users, while others are fake.

Fake casino streamers never care about the viewer's emotions and financial condition; Instead, they go for live streaming to earn some money through different mediums.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: topbitcoin on November 10, 2023, 02:16:02 AM
We as gamers love following top digital influencers who keep us updated with the latest tips, strategies, information, events, tournaments and many other details every day. This groundwork done by them motivates you to perform better at online casinos. But the biggest problem is; that some casino streamers are really authentic and believe in sustaining their channel by providing necessary content to users, while others are fake.

Fake casino streamers never care about the viewer's emotions and financial condition; Instead, they go for live streaming to earn some money through different mediums.

And the fake streamers that I often find are slot gambling streamers. They really try to trick their viewers and continuously suggest gambling on the same platform. And this is mostly motivated by illegal gambling sites, they really use streamers to promote their gambling platforms. And this of course, to a small extent, will be dangerous and detrimental to the viewers.

And even though this has resulted in harsh action in the form of sanctions and punishments from law enforcement officials against illegal gambling streamers, this still does not deter them, which on the contrary is increasingly rampant and difficult to control.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Oasisman on November 10, 2023, 04:20:32 AM
Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?

Why are these streamers became popular? Well, they have funded these streamers enough money to be on your suggestions list visible for everyone when you visit the platform. Then, they will pay a streamer who's already popular to do fake reviews and fake game trials to entice his followers to play on that certain casino.
I didn't read the article though, but I'm quite positive this stuff has been mentioned and discussed in this matter.
A lot of annoying Youtubers and influencers are actually advertising casinos nowadays, so you already know they are paid and these streamers, YouTubers, and influencers doesn't care whether or not the casino has bad reputation as long as they earn tons of money from it.


Title: Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?
Post by: Silberman on November 13, 2023, 04:47:30 AM
Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular?

Why are these streamers became popular? Well, they have funded these streamers enough money to be on your suggestions list visible for everyone when you visit the platform. Then, they will pay a streamer who's already popular to do fake reviews and fake game trials to entice his followers to play on that certain casino.
I didn't read the article though, but I'm quite positive this stuff has been mentioned and discussed in this matter.
A lot of annoying Youtubers and influencers are actually advertising casinos nowadays, so you already know they are paid and these streamers, YouTubers, and influencers doesn't care whether or not the casino has bad reputation as long as they earn tons of money from it.
And this is something that bothers me terribly about this situation, if influencers want to promote a casino that is fine, as I understand they need to use their fame to sustain themselves, but if they are going to do that then they should promote good casinos that will not scam their customers, but instead they are willing to take as much money as possible without caring about the legitimacy of the casino or the experience their viewers can get out of it, and that is intolerable to me.