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A lot of traders are not as profitable as they claim to be. I don't know the exact percentage but I can say and stand to be corrected that 95% of traders even the so called professionals are not profitable. How do I know this through simple deduction. 95% of these unprofitable traders make their money through other means and their unsuspecting followers don't know this. Some of the means are
- starting a YouTube channel and making money of
a) affiliate program
b) YouTube ads

- Having a paid course.
- Trading signals
- Selling trading merch
- impressions
- and others.

The true 5% of traders that are very successful and profitable do not even have a YouTube channel (only a very few exceptions). They are strictly for trading only, day in and say out.

Read this:

https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money?hs_amp=true





I can agree to that, most traders are losing.

Trading is not gambling but it should be seen as gambling because they are the two things online that can make people to easily lose money.

Everything in a life involving investing money in it for future profits is then a gamble because you don't know how things will turn out tomorrow.

If I am so good a trading and making a lot of money out of it. I don't see why I would go to YouTube looking for views and people to register using my referral links  ;D
Whenever I see YouTubers asking subscribers to use their referral links, that is where I stop the video

Trading might not works for everybody and that’s why they have to look for other options to make money and that is fine. If you are in trading, you should know how to make profit and know when to buy and sell because its all about your discipline and of course all about your strategy. Though I don’t agree that if you lose in trading you can just do your trading signal, affiliate or do a trading channel because how can you convince someone if you are losing in trading? This is still not a sure profit though.

If the majority of traders are losing money, it indicates that the trading approach used in this era is flawed. Aside from that, most of them are still appearing to know something, but the truth is that they know very little and that knowledge in this area isn't yet that deep, right?

But I believe that many individuals profit from trading; it's not a large profit, since in my experience, I earn from trading, but it's only a small amount every day. Let's assume it's between $5 and $10 or more for the entire day, and it also depends on the market scenario.

I have also noticed this trends. If traders are profitable in what they're doing, why are they allotting a huge amount of time composing a course for trading if they can just use that same time to go 100% on trading instead? That means they are not that profitable, and they have to do other things in order to make money. If I were them and I'm getting a lot of money in trading alone, I'd probably lay off the rest of my time to relaxation or expand my trading ventures even further.

Rich people do not share their secrets to other people that's why they are rich. They don't want to disturb their income stream because that's how they make bread. If a lot of people suddenly goes to their spot and compete for the same resources because they pointed out where the source is, that rich people will eventually notice that it thins out their yield and will probably have to move somewhere else - if that source is really profitable to begin with.

You just exposed them.  ;D

But it's true that most of these traders are not really profitable, they're making through other source especially on social media.

Ask them to join some trading contests and they won't obliged to join one because they will not show any interest in doing so. That's the reason why they want you to just listen to their contents and that's it.

No live trades but there are some few that does it and are real traders yet, it's still a different thing to be called a profitable trader.

Honestly, it's very possible to convince someone even you are not profitable in trading. It's because not all of our trades are lose trades. I have seen a trader who have a YouTube channel and made a breakdown of their winning trades but suddenly he disappear because he doesn't posted new content in his channel. It convince a lot of people because he is good at making content and he accumulate many followers in just a month. However, profit from making is not enough to cover your loses in trading, maybe it's one of the reason that he is not making content anymore.

True!!! So very true, many traders especially those who market themselves in social media showing luxury life claiming that they did it because of solely trading but in reality most of them are just attracting people to join in their group, that's one of their scheme, showing how luxurious they are then attracting potential customer to avail their courses or seminars, at first they will say that the seminar is free but eventually will offer you something like subscription, because mostly the free seminar are all about them flexing their so called achievements and all about the services that they offer but about trading there are little knowledge that they share, but we can't blame because its their way of living, but yeah not all we see in social media about successful people with luxurious life are not all true its part of their marketing, some true successful and true traders are lowkey because trading is not easy like what those social media traders imply.

its always very small amount of people could gain success same thing with trader, not to mention when you think about those whales that god insiders info and also big capital you would instantly think that they've got the advantage.
we all know that those so called trader influencers are just trying to make money off advertisement and that juicy commission fee therefore many people that don't recommend to follow those influencer's every financial advice because they themselves most frequently profitting off the commission from referal fee.
I've seen many that started career in trading also many that don't make it and those that fail make up majority number of traders.

Like what have been reading from long time and also my stand , that trading is not for everyone and that is the reason why many of those who called themselves a trader has their Youtube channels or yeah other affiliation program to generate them income to at least cover their losses from trading.
there are many of my friends that is still in trading but yeah it maybe have profit but not as high as how we can make our family eat best food in the table.
so if you wanna trade then better to have other side of profiteering because if not then you may not last that long in crypto market .

I also know this fact, and from several observations of traders who have a signal group, VIP, courses and so on. When I read your thread to the end I became increasingly convinced that this was very likely to happen according to the facts. I suspected this when the owner of the signal group experienced large losses when the market experienced a reversal followed by its members sometimes experiencing liquid/margin calls. Of course, what makes them survive is because these traders still have a lot of funds saved from the withdrawals of their members' funds. Besides that, if they open a copy trade, the results they get will also be bigger and clearer than the trade they made.

I tend to see that a true pro trader will focus on their trading.

I agree that actually there are many traders who lose money than those who can still be profitable, but in my opinion, the percentage is not that high but indeed there are more people who lose than they make a profit, that's why more experts recommend investing than trading because it's difficult to always make profit in the short term and trading is not always suitable for everyone, even though knowledge about trading is deep enough, it is not a guarantee of success, especially in crypto which is always full of surprises where the market can change very quickly.

If we want to make money through trading then we have to really master it well and be able to analyze the market well so that we don't make a mistake in deciding to choose the right type of coin to buy in order to make a profit from trading.
Of course, the thing that really doesn't make sense is if those who create trading channels and they experience losses in the trading they do, it is important for us before trading to be able to understand it well in order to reduce the risk of losses that we will incur.

You are correct, however I wouldn't refer to the Youtubers as "traders" because it is obvious that what they are doing is not making money from trades. They are making money from their followers as you've already observed.

When it comes to actual traders, even the novice ones, their trades are a lot more profitable than just 5%. Simply because if it were any other way they would have left trading a long time ago as they'd ran out of money to trade with.

If you say 95% of traders lose trading then I will tell you that your calculations must be wrong because if 95% of traders were losing trading then people would never have traded so much. Profits and losses are a part of business and before trading you need to accept that your business can have profits as well as losses. Now if I am doing business and if that business is making loss regularly then after some time we will not do that business anymore because no one wants to do business with loss. Traders definitely make losses in their trading, but it is temporary, if you can be patient for a while, then I think a trader can recover that loss and see the face of profit again. The loss is temporary, but if you can hold on, the chances of profit are high.

Those who have built channels for teaching trading and even selling merchandise to make a profit, of course, their target is not the trading they share. This kind of group even has the potential to collaborate with several shitcoin projects to increase the popularity of new projects.
I don't know how accurate the signal being shared is. because if the signal is inaccurate enough, I'm sure their current followers will also decrease. For novice traders, what they hope for is profit from the signals provided. and it becomes very instantaneous for beginners who are much less confident in their own analysis.

Defining success does not mean that you are not looking for another way to make an income. Does working in my job alongside signature campaigns alongside additional work mean that my job is a failure or that signature campaigns are useless? of course not.
You can say that trading does not bring in enough cash as a full-time job, but these people may not consider trading as a job, but rather as a long-term investment or a way to retire early. creating videos on YouTube does not only achieve a financial return, but rather opens more doors, as fame and relationships give money more than ads.

most people want to do what others are doing and forget that everyone has a different destiny I know is always good not to give up but forget that if trading does not favor and the person is still interested in Bitcoin you can just hold instead of give to much attention to what does not favor you since all are still part of investment in bitcoin but some people if they trade and it is not favoring them they will keep trading and to me it is a waste of money. and trading is not about buying and selling alone you should not what you doing know what to do and what not to do. I don't know how to do analysis but getting it from channels if it helps then it is good because it is always good to learn from others.

Trading is not for everyone mate. In trading, profits and losses are both a part of it. It depends on your ability to make it work out. Always remember that your loss is someone else's profit and their loss is your profit. Given the fact that the crypto market is quite uncertain, we can never predict the future 100% accurately and thus, we may lose it all.

I can read a book and make its writing as a content script for a YouTube video. Nothing is stopping me from doing that. All I need is the view, not the experience in trading. You can share knowledge without having any actual experience. This is why many are losing in trading. They have gained the knowledge but not the experience. And they follow those other traders rather than doing it on their own. And those so-called social influencer traders have found other ways to earn money as you mentioned. That's why they never focus on improving themselves. Thus, their followers stay the same.

The market is a zero sum game and money flows inside it from losers to winners. There is no market in which you find only losers or only winners. There must be winners and losers exist together in a same market to make it an actual market.

If you make mistake, someone else wins and gets profit. If you make profit, you have to know that profit comes from someone else loses their money.

It's true that trading is very risky and people have to pay a lot of cost, money to learn from trading. The painful fact is even they trade a lot, spend a lot of time and money in loss, they might not become successful traders. There is more easily way than trading, it's investing. Invest in Bitcoin will help investors to get profit if they do it a long time like few years. If failed traders can change to be long term investors and choose Bitcoin for investment, they will become successful ones.

I can not agree less with you on this because I personally view both trading and gambling the same thing because that's exactly what they are; they both involve taking risk with your funds. The differences are not much although trading gives one more over their funds than the way gambling does. I mean in trading you can control your aspect of trade by knowing when to enter or exit trade when it's not favorable. And again, gambling solely rely on luck but trading can be learn through constant practice.

To op discussion, I agree most of the traders are not making profits as they flaunt on social media but that figure is inflated. The percentage of those making profits should be more than what is shown in your post. It's not longer surprising that majority of the acclaimed traders with social media page and handle are using it to attract traffic and create impressions but in real sense, they are losing low key and that's if they trade at all.

Its obvious that not everyone that call themselves professional traders are really making money. most of the people that call themselves professional traders are fake, whenever i see videos on YouTube and those people are calling themselves professional traders i just shake my head and laugh, i know most of them are posting those videos because of views and subscribers. That's why you will notice that most videos on YouTube will only show when they are in profits but will never post when they are at loss. Don't be deceived by the videos you see on YouTube, most of them are after their money.

Whenever I see someone claiming to be a professional trader and those people are still offering paid trading signals, I do believe they are not really a professional trader. If you are a real trader and you are making cool money in trading, you won't be wasting your time forcing people to join your group for signals. I have seen real professional traders organize seminars just to teach how to trade for free, they don't collect any amount from members that are interested, those are the real people I know they are making money from trading, and they want to impact others.

Most of traders in loses but i think this percentage are not 95%, i am also short term traders and i agree that now i lost big amount in last two months.
Short term traders have to take big risk, if it will work profit is also big. If most of traders are lost their money so they are trying earn money from other sources.

95% of all traders fail is the most commonly used statistic as a percentage of traders who experience losses.
Even this percentage can be more, there are only a few traders who are able to survive with profits and most day traders get losses.
80% of day traders will only survive in the first 2 years and almost 40% of day traders will survive for one month and the others will only be left with the dream of getting rich quick by day trading.

If day trading cannot always be expected, and they use other methods to earn income such as YouTube ads and affiliates,
it is another method that will camouflage a trade to look successful, but in reality there is another business behind it.

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OP, Your concern is really legitimate, I do consider that a maximum of the professionals make money through other means and a maximum of the means are aforementioned by the OP. Trading is not that easy if a person is making money at the start of their trading journey means he has something big to face later on, if a person faces difficulties at the start of his journey and is still stuck with the market somehow surviving for sure he'll be a good trader.

Trading is not like a straight way, it's really a very stressful skill if you are highly reliant on it. If a person has already serviced a cycle or more with his trading career without any doubt, you can consider him as your legit mentor, these YouTube analysts and traders most of the time trade with borrowed money and course content on the name of signals, courses, and paid sponsorships. So cant say they are having a top-notch trading skills.

They are really not professional traders, the yare just signal sellers, that's their professional business. They do not make much money from trading, which means you will not make profit from following them, the real amount they make and their income is the signal payers, people who pay for signals make for their living. I have seen people who had over ten thousand followers, nearly all of them paid, and that means they made hundreds of thousands of dollars, and all he did was arrange a bot to post a message on a telegram group when something happens with an indicator, that's it.

This is why it's quite obvious that we are talking about people who have absolutely no idea, and they are not professional traders. If this dude was a professional trader, he could have taken that money and doubled it, and if not then they are going to end up being terrible for long time. I get that we may not see the situation changing a bit, but I think it should be a lot more important.

Majority of traders in the market are trading without the confidence of making profits in the market. This is nit mostly because their strategies are bad and not good enough but can be as a result of the market change of patterns and structure.
We need to understand market structure a lot for us to make profits from the market. This is one of the reasons why what works for us before might not work again. The market keep changing patterns and strong and we should not allow that to affect us as a trader.

That often cited statistic belongs to traditional finance in an era where most brokers charged prohibitively high commissions, so in such an environment day trading was a fool's game where one ended up making the brokers and exchanges rich...

With extremely low fees and many incentive schemes now, scales are much more balanced towards high frequency trading; regardless there can still be many days where doing 0 trades will be the most rational course of action.

I agree high frequency trading is a very specialized branch of trading and requires a completely focused set of skills, and for most products it's almost always dominated by automated algorithms...

Although some traders didn't concentrate on their strategies and they didn't even know their loss way. Because when someone made a mistake he should know where the mistake came from and what mistake did he perform, so he should take some advice next time to not doing this type of a mistake. Same in the case in trading mostly users made mistakes by just using their strategy 100 times which they didn't change and they don't even know it.

Mostly they blame the market conditions, that market was not good etc. that's why we are in loss. I know market also play important role in their trading but a strategy is something that should be considered the most. So, they can easily get a good decisions and good profit from their trading.

Why do we always say 95% in everything as this is not the right data if this is right then give complete proof of it or if you are giving just a rough estimate then why do you use 95% you can use 80 or 70 percent. I do not agree with you, don't be sad or aggressive with my words because everyone has the right to speak and write. The reason is we are doing trading just to make profits and every person wants to be richer and richer and for that, you need to increase your work so that instead of let's say 1k$ coming per month increase to 5k$ per month. So some of the traders make videos on YouTube just to teach others, gain fame and also capital but with all this, they did not close their trading business but increased time to time.

Well, i couldn't deny that you do really have a solid point when it comes to this on which if these people were really that making money in the first place then they wont bother themselves on launching up some signals
group or something that they could make money like streaming or whatsoever that you have mentioned above because if they were truly making money then they wont really be bothering themselves on creating one
since they could make out money so easily. This is why its never been that believable that they are profitable with their trades, if ever they do have that good positive portfolio then it might be but
it is hard to believe that they are really that making money well in trading world.

Even myself would definitely focus instead on making trades rather than on making myself getting involved with these things on which we know that it isnt really
that worth on doing so but instead i would be focusing on something that could make out big money.

Those who trade without the trading knowledge and experience. They may be gaining experience a little but they are also wasting their money and time on it.

Better for them to trade in a way that can only only give them benefit but also some knowledge about trading. Mostly those users which have some confidence that they can easily get profit somehow they fail to manage just due to their over confidence which puts them in hard situations. Better to learn sometimes and take advice from other to realize the mistakes.

I agree with OP a bit ,the real profitable traders I have come across or seen in my area hardly share their trading secret or strategy, those ones that come to YouTube are using those affiliates they get to backing up their losses, even I have seen some that claim to be trader on YouTube that do not trade but have a paid group they join and even sell those signals they got to their newbies client as if they are tthe source of the signal.

Overconfidence would really be leading you into disaster on which it would really be that just right that you should be thinking up realistically. Dont try out to mimic those successful traders on which you could see online as if these things would really be making you that desperate on trying to reach out a certain state on which it is something that cant be attained in a short time.

Better to have realistic approach rather than on making yourself that looks delusional.Yes, its not bad to have those kind of goals and intents of success but just like been said that if you dont make yourself
that realistic and really in a rush then you are really sthat susceptible to lots of errors and mistakes on which this is something that we must avoid in the first place. The market is really that composed
with buyers and sellers and this is really that just a tug-of-war on which it is really that so common that there would be losers and there would be those winners or profitable ones.

The truth is, you can actually  trade and make it profitable without announcing it in your youtube account. That is, if you really are earning well through trading, and you won't have to do extra activities like affiliating or doing youtube videos, that will gain extra income if the people will also subscribe on your channel. Trading with bitcoin is a private activity, so you don't have expose yourself that you're a trader, otherwise people will think that the reason why you are documenting all your trades is to gain followers and make an income, because you are not really profitable with trading itself.

In short, if you are gaining decent amount with trading, then you should focus on it and maximize trading for profits, not that you will scam people with your trading skills and strategies and claim yourself that you're a successful trader when in reality you're not even a pro in trading.

If they completely rely on trading then it will not be profitable all the time, let alone doing daily trading, it is clear that they will experience big losses because basically, based on the existing statistics, it is true that overall trading is a loss, in contrast to investments which always make a profit if they don't sell it.

What do I see in a trader now? They have a paid signal channel, they have YouTube and rely on ads there, they continue to promote so that they are better known and many people follow and join the group and at that time traders can earn additional income because there are other sources apart from trading, so If traders do not have the things mentioned above, it is clear that they will have difficulty dealing with finances, let alone relying on trading.

Most traders are self-educated and have very large gaps in their knowledge and/or they have no experience with planning and utilizing a trading strategy. Most prefer to trade on their own, ever-changing whims. And such a "strategy" will always go awry.

The Influencer fake-day-traders with their leased luxury cars may have impressed me when I was a newbie but I will never fall for something like that now. They are not traders, they are actors with a cult following that they abuse to make money. Some even go as far as scamming their viewers out of their money.

But as I said, thats not real trading. Real trading has its own set of logical rules. And if you understand those rules, you might be able to make a small profit.

I do believe that most traders are not really profitable, because if they really are, they will not be making noise in the social media trying to convince people that trading can make them rich and profitable as long as they make their subscription immediately. This can be a form of scamming or manipulation most especially to those who easily fall on their traps. While there are traders who are actually in profits, but they do it secretly without announcing to the world that they are good and profitable traders.

Maybe because the social media is the home of the scammers, this could be the reason why a lot want to gain self-entitlement and claim theirselves as profitable traders. At least, if they are not making five or six digits in trading, it can always be possible in the social media as long as they gain a lot of viewers and subscriptions on their videos and channels.

Social media traders aren't real traders, real traders don't have time to be online showing their results to random individuals and proving to them that they're successful traders. Trading isn't an easy activity that everybody can do due to the reason that not everyone is willing to undergo the process of learning how to trade as not everyone has the patience to learn. Everyone is now too interested in making profits that they won't want to learn how to trade first.

We have more newbies in trading than professionals so we'll always have more individuals losing than making profits. Many newbies trading cryptocurency are trading with emotions therefore they'll always make mistakes due to following their emotions instead of following the charts. To make profits when trading, we have to learn to separate our emotions when making decisions so we can be focused and only take trades based on what the charts is saying.

Without having to dispute on claims you’ve made in the OP,
I would say, as much as some of these guys actually make money through the ads view on the content they create and other programs they host through there channel(s), some of them are getting some true success.

A quick note:
The term we mainly refer to as professional traders have come with a different definition as against what it’s assumed to be which is; traders that have a good level of expertise on there trades or happens to be pretty successful.
Professional traders are individuals who trade on behalf on an institution (institutional traders) and are being paid for their services.

Something to note, we have more day to traders newbie and petty traders than we could have of any self proclaimed expert traders and as such, they’ve got to be more losses than profit to some individuals, that in itself is a fact.

beginners trade at first by feeling proud that they are a trader, especially when they are given a profit at the start of trading, so they can feel that trading is easy, until finally they feel the real cruelty of trading, and for those who don't have a steely mentality then they disconnected from the world of trading, so that many people came in and out of the world of trading. For those who continue trading, they will invest more than the capital used for trading, while learning to trade

that's true, not everyone because most of those who enter the trade immediately have a little idea that's the feeling that they already know their strategy the others who were taught in cryto are wrong, their strategy is wrong others, when they lose, they want to take it back immediately; others, when they win in trade, they want to trade immediately again, and they lose their ability to trade. If I'm one of you, focus on a strategy, not when you learn something new and do it immediately in the trade

You are making assumptions with your information but agreed that many people that claim to be traders are not traders in real sense. They are doing videos and posting on YouTube channels for likes and ads to survive.  I mean, will real trader has that time to be making noise on videos with some random trend linee? The real traders are on their screen depicting how to know whether the market will go north or south, this doesn't invalidate real traders that are out there making it from the market.

The affiliate program is the most popular you see around their channel and the ones that will always ask for coffee money as if they hardly have difficult time in having breakfast.


You didn't mention of the pay signal and private groups where they drop trades. They are always quick to show their profit but wouldn't show you the profit from the exchange market. Hardly will you even see a person from the so called signal group of sharing testimony about the profit they have made from trading, most of the time paid signals are nothing but home of scammers.

It seems like a fact, as many traders looking for quick money opt for short-term strategies, expecting fast results. They view trading as a quick fix for their economic challenges, but it often turns out the opposite. Instead of improving their financial situation, they find themselves in even tougher economic conditions.

Now, the relationship between a professional trader and a YouTuber is quite predictable. Someone who's already making money as an expert in trading doesn't need to seek victims on YouTube to boost their income by revealing their secrets. It's like keeping a popular recipe to themselves rather than sharing it on YouTube, assuming they'll gain extra income while actually making it easier for serious competitors.

A true trader who can make a living from trading has exclusive knowledge that is better kept secret.

I totally agree and I always compare both activities which, although different, have a lot of similarities. In fact, day-trading is almost in all cases pure luck, not to talk about futures, levers... And all TA patterns and candlesticks mere pseudoscience.

So traders who win constantly win money know what they're doing and have a winning plan since the beginning: they do not simply study a trading analysis book and try to put it into action, they have other ways of income as mentioned before (channels, sponsorships...) or a very deep understanding on what's going on in the market, which requires both the ability and many hours of hard work everyday.

Anyway, there are cycles when everybody loses, no matter your skill. Before Madoff's structure collapsed, suspicions started in part because he kept winning money in a market where everyone was losing.

I agree with you OP, because trading is not something that can be done by anyone and this is why people that claim trading is profitable are not traders. If not they wouldn't come to the public to deceive people that trading is profitable. Even the so call professional traders run at loss but the difference is that the professional traders have risk management and use that as an advantage in trading. If I am making profit everyday in trading why will I want to tell people about my strategy. Another thing is that most traders are not traders but gamblers because they lack the skills and depend on signal and assumptions. Also I see most traders as greedy people that are after quick profit, this makes them not to take their time to learn the in and out of trading properly before they jump into trading, and this is why the run at loss. Trading is very complicated.

Trading can be profitable or it can be give you a loss if you didn't know how to make trade but in my opinion if we start trading from a small amount and we should take profit even s small it will be give you a good benefit after few months and most trader are not profitable because they are getting penic the most affected thing in a loss in trading is penic if we regret this thing from our trade we will In profitable

Well depends but I agreed too. Some paid signals have payment and there we can see some fail trade signals too. Is that fine? No! As long as their paid they can get the losses from users especially if the group is somehow big. Also some referrals on exchange, or anything offer services. So its kinda nuts to join a group like that and pay for the subscription. Maybe theres a legit one but the winning rate is still not on accurate terms.

I have to agree. Yes, it is true that most traders are not profitable. Trading in financial markets is very challenging, and statistics prove that a majority of traders do not consistently make profits.

Unfortunately, trading isn't something that everyone can achieve and it takes a long time to make money by trading. This is because financial markets are complex and it is almost impossible to make money in them without a fair amount of experience. Yes, unfortunately many people who define themselves as professionals cannot earn a profit by trading because trading requires not only experience but also the need for a person to plan risk management correctly and control his/her emotions.

On the other hand, the fact that many new individuals are included in the cryptocurrency markets and that these people are generally inexperienced in the financial markets or cryptocurrency markets causes the percentage of people who can make a profit by trading to decrease.

While there are few traders who are making it big in trading, but majority of these existing traders are not actually in profits but still claim that they are successful and profitable traders. And mostly, those who keep flexing their trading strategies in their social media account are those who are not making profitable trades.

Real successful traders only keep their strategies to theirselves, and as long as they find it beneficial to their career, they will never flaunt or disclose it to their youtube channel if there's any or their social media account. That's how they keep their trading career successful for a longer period.

The definition of professional indicates that if a person can earn money from the business in which he is engaged. Accordingly, if a trader can make money only by trading, then he is a professional trader, if he makes money from advertising exchanges, or some other products, receives profit from referrals and the like, then this person receives the main profit from advertising, but his trading is not so successful then this is something else.

If a trader could only earn money from trading, he would not be promoting other products. This is mainly done by traders-bloggers and I don’t really trust such people.

Hmm, dear just keep in mind that there the smarter people who are competing with you with higher experience, and capital to play. You need to learn how to stay one step ahead of them and need to be psychologically more adaptive to market sentiments. Here in this market, only whales win, because they own the key principle that most of the new traders don't possess.

You can say new traders are the liquidity providers to the old ones. New people lose money and frustration leaves the market.

Or that they are using traditional ways to trade which isn't applicable to bitcoin and other crypto since crypto market is so volatile or maybe the claim that a lot of traders aren't profiting from trading but wouldn't we see them quit after awhile if they're not profiting at all, if that's the correct or closest to the right percentage, that would mean that a lot of these traders are either not really trading and the stuff that come out of their mouth are either nonsense that they can't back up which is sad and frustrating because that would mean they've been deceiving a lot of people but that's a far fetch theory too that they're not profiting and that they're lying to their followers too because someone would've called them out a long time ago.

I am glad that there are articles to back up my observations.
I didn't even have to read these articles or studies to come to the conclusion. This is was just from natural observation. I just noticed that
- increase in YouTube channels of trading influencers.
- increase in the number of Instagram channels with traders showing off their set up and charts.
- TikTok videos of trading influencers directing viewers to some links to buy a course

It is just crazy. These people trying to make money off novices and recycling old trading stories.

The research over the previous decades has shown that this is consistently the truth, even when the stock market was experiencing an unprecedented bull market most traders were still losing money, what those influencers are doing is nothing more but to play with the greed of people by promising them they can obtain profits if they follow them or if they buy their products, however once people finally understand that stat and admit they are no different than all of those traders which failed, that is when they will have to take a difficult decision, which is to give up on trading completely or finally decide to make the effort to research the markets on their own and stop looking for the easy way out.

Those things been known in the past which turns out to be the reason on why they have lost money, yes mistakes could happen but once it had been known then people would normally be avoiding it and it would really be causing for them to make another path for them to take and trying to be profitable as much as possible. Tons of things and factors could really make out some effect along the way on which it would really be just that so normal that people would really be making out adjustments. Talking back into the thing or situation about traders are not profitable then this is something that a little bit true but to know that this market is really just that like a tug-of-war then to those people who are making money are the winners and the losing side would be the ones who losses up money as simple as that.

This is why skills and knowledge would really be that relevant because if you do lacking of these things then you wont really be able to survive or sustain within this market and this is something that
you should really be looking into. Being profitable on this market isnt impossible but its not something that simple that you could really be making yourself that confident.
You would be able to realize it once you do able to make yourself do have that  real engagement in the market.

I am not a good trader even when i have to start trading then many time i have been got loss. That's why i will need to tech about trade. But yes basic knowledge with improve trade of some loss money will prepared great trading idea. Really very dangerous trading step for all news members so be aware if you couldn’t understand it.

Actually, this is not good, but that's the way it is. Indeed, many novice traders fail and lose a lot. and only a small percentage survive and are ultimately able to find their trading patterns satisfactorily without using trading signals. And of course this requires enormous efforts. We are not talking about pro traders because that would be different. But not only newbies but also some people who have been trading for a long time often fail because they have poor analytical skills, due to a lack of knowledge and seriousness and efforts. Trading is high risk and requires patterns and skills that are good enough to be able to manage itself so that you gain more profits than losses.

the so-called influencers are just earning because of the subscribers, ads, views and maybe not because of their trading activities. most of them are just faking their trading results and maybe just showing their few profits and not their actual losses. if they are really doing good in their trading, they don't need to show it to other people as they won't have time anymore.

Sad to know about it but yeah, only a few traders make their journey profitable. The reason why the majority had suffered losses is because
 - they are impatient
 - lack of knowledge

All of these things happen because of the influence of these social media influencers saying that they can make money easily and showing trading tips that never work in real life. Many have been fooled into such ads and they face the consequences of losing their money.

If you have been trading in the market for long, you will realize that successful trading never happens easily, and that it never happens to most of the aspiring traders especially if they lack the skills and strategies to trade. So it's not actually surprising why majority of the crypto traders are not successful, some just pretend to deceive the people who dream of becoming successful traders.

The only way they gain an income is through making contents about their trades and make people believe that they are good and reliable traders. You will only know this is you start trading by yourself.

Indeed, if we don't know how to trade properly, we possibly get losses.
The problem is there are many new traders who have lack of knowledge and have bad mentality. They don't want to take time for a deep learning, they prefer to trade and think they can learn while trading. Because they have lack knowledge, they easily feel panic when they experience something unpredictable. For example, when there is a big dump, they probably decide to do panic selling because they think crypto market is no longer a proper place for trading. They are also very easy to be influenced by FUD because they don't really know crypto world.

Mostly, traders trade for greed so they end up looking for quick profits and eventually fail on their trades. Sad reality, that's why its not surprising to see traders hunger for profits because they were never profiting in reality. While most of these traders have less knowledge and less experience in the trading market, then they really are doomed to fail and lose their trades in the process.

However, trading can be learned in time, that is if patience and persistency are established. Without them, there's no way a struggling trader will succeed.

so much influencer trying to paint that image where trading could be done so casually and still make someone a millionaire thats not true at all. most of these influencers profited off their refferal links or through their so called trading tutorials and book but we all know these influencers are probably losing big time in their personal trades and they won't even disclose it. otherwise if they kept on profitting they would show off their trading histories 24/7 but nah only very few of their history were shown and that already filtered only with wins.
thats the thing with trading its difficult yet people seem to underestimate it and also have that feeling of overly inflated sense of skill that they have that they'd just bringing money for the whales.
even veteran trader with all the knowledge and experience would still fails many time.

I think it could be about personality of a person as well, maybe I am wrong but I just have a feeling that some people just can't be traders, they just do not have that chip in their brain, they do not enjoy it, and they do enjoy a lot of money just like everyone in the world and they do want a lot of money but trading is not their way, so they do try to make money with trading even though they do not enjoy it, and that results with them not having any return at all, which is of course normal.

I believe that could be the issue, it looks like we are talking about something that may not be all that crazy and maybe something simple, it's just not right for everyone. If that's the case, then it is normal some people just stop quickly.

Thanks for posting this. Now I realize that trading is not really for me because I tried trading 3x already, and lose 3x, and I'm done losing my money thru trading.

These so-called traders in YouTube? Can you call a trader a "trader" still even though they are losing money constantly? I mean if they are trying to find a way to earn like doing doing Youtube videos to have ads, and affiliate program then they aren't traders anymore, but they can be called as Youtubers, or maybe "shillers". Some are scammers unfortunately.

There are many reasons why most of the traders tend to fail. Lack of knowledge, lack of patience, wrong decisions, emotions, etc. Trading is accessible to everyone, but not everyone can be a successful trader.

Destiny has nothing to do with trading and investment, though the two could be the sole source of income for some people, nevertheless, they are still mostly used as a means to earn massive income. This is why when you trade or invest, you can still follow the path of your destiny as the two are not burdensome, they are just what you do when you have the chance, and life still goes on as if you did nothing. I trade every day and I don't think that it takes up to 20 minutes of my time daily in accumulation.

In light of this, I believe that anyone that is so desire to learn and give trading/investment all that it takes to be successful in them can really be successful, all they need is to believe and act. As a trader myself, I like to encourage people about trading because it's somewhat free money, all it requires is for the person to truly know it and he will ever be earning without stoppage. I never knew I could get to the experience level I am today and if I'd downgraded it the way you just did, I wouldn't have ever hit it. This is the power of perseverance and I am very sure that everyone who has time can trade well to earn consistently, only that many have not located the right ways of trading yet.

Most of the influencers are talking BS to their viewers and because they know how to tickle the minds of these people, they are easily offering such things that they can sell to them. And it's true that not all of them are profitable to say that they're only encouraging people to trade but the risk that they take isn't seen to the viewers.

Much better for people who are fans of these influencers to just look at the good things they say. But you need to take caution to yourself that you also need to be careful that not all the things they say should be extracted to you as wisdom and knowledge. Because you don't know that all of the things they're feeding the watchers to be as good and effective to them.

There can be some that might effective and working in trading for some of the viewers but always remember that it's not for all.

Actually, in the reality that happens in the actual trading of exchanges here in cryptocurrency, most of them do trading, but the majority of them also do not get much profit from it, and if they do, it is slow.

So the best thing for them to do is that if the same thing happens with what they are doing, they should hold it long-term while they study it, and at least the capital they use in the trading activity they are doing will not be put at risk. .

Not all those who trade are in profits, some are just trading but still suffer in losses. Although there are still few who are genuinely profitable traders, but the rest are just showing of fake trading results and hide their real trading losses. That's when crypto influencers arise and offer too good to be true trading strategies and claim that they really profit from them, but in reality those strategies have not been tested and do not guarantee successful trading outcome.

Just think of this. If what we see in youtube are really profitable traders, then they don't have to bother anymore asking for our subscriptions and watch their videos. They should focus instead on their trading activity if that really gives them sustainable amount of profits, and not waste their time making contents for their youtube channel.

To be successful in trading, you must first gain good knowledge about the market and then learn to analyze price charts well. And on the other hand be aware of all the news about crypto. Then you can predict the price of any coin. And you can profit through trading otherwise you will lose in trading. Those who do not have special knowledge on these issues are the ones who lose in trading. Because of this basically not everyone can profit from trading

News will not help you predict coin prices, this is a big misconception, all that news will help you is to try to predict the further movement of Bitcoin, and therefore the entire market. But especially recently in the news, I see a lot of speculation, when false news is thrown at us, the market reacts to it, but this turns out to be a trap that many traders fall into.

So we need to follow the market and the news, but we also need to be very careful and check the information that is presented to us as positive or negative for the upcoming movement.

It's true that many traders have difficulty achieving consistent profitability, and the percentage of successful traders can be quite small. This is because trading in financial markets involves significant risks, and not everyone can successfully manage these risks.
An interesting point in your point is that some traders who are not as successful at trading may find other sources of income, such as creating content on YouTube or providing training courses. This emphasizes the importance of a diversified approach to financial activities and finding additional sources of income.
At the same time, truly successful traders, as you noted, often prefer to focus entirely on their trading, avoiding additional activities. This may be due to the fact that trading requires constant updating of skills and market analysis, which requires significant time and effort.

Exactly some traders are claiming that they are making profit from their trade. Many of them are even done by their instructors. Their instructors would tell them the time to enter the trade and the date to start the trade. They are not doing it by themselves but guided by others and the profit is very small. I know of a friend who was doing this kind of trade and instructors ran away with the funds they deposited to the his account to trade and everything stopped there.

There is profit in trading but if only the person can trade well and understand the market strategies then there is no way he would not make profit but fake traders full the market.

The reality of trading can be very confusing especially when we are not making profits but we are always posting for other to see the profits we had made when we make little ones. This is one of the reasons why many traders will keep selling trading strategies and pattern of trading which does not works always. We need to be focused and make sure we don't become victim of buying low profitable trading strategies. Selling of trading strategies can be very profitable to those traders that do claim they have winning strategies.

Well, if we focus on the statistics of the forum, then it seems that it is these profitable traders who are next to us. This is especially noticeable when you read topics created by newcomers who not only talk about their successful deals, but also offer their signals on a paid basis.

  That's true; the other influencers are really just chasing views; their earnings are a lot of lies that they say they got from the trading they did, but the truth is that the earnings come from being influencers because they are often paid by an advertisement company.

  This often happens, so the majority of influencers are self-proclaimed, which means that if you have a deep understanding of trading, you will see and notice that there is something wrong with what they explain about trading. In short, they are pretentious experts or trading mentors, but not indeed.

I don't think this is true, 95% of being unprofitable would mean that the lucky 5% is accumulating all the wealth in trading which doesn't seem to be the case. Why would so many people keep trading if they are not making any money with it? At least for me trading was very time consuming in the past and I would always consider my time spend on research and rebalancing my portfolio as an opportunity cost. Which means that my profits need to be much higher than the what I would earn risk free and without spending time in my savings account. Everybody can have a bad month and make a loss, but doing so over a longer period of time should let us change our tactics. One argument against 95% of traders being unprofitable is that trading is zero sum game. Everything that we win or lose has to come from somebody else, which means in a perfect and complete random world the chance between winning and losing should 50/50. So even if there are some really good traders, the difference would be 40/60 at most. The traders on YouTube or social media seem to be a very small fraction of the overall trader population and I wouldn't use their mediocre performance as a justification that the majority of traders are having the same returns.

Actually, when I used to trade earlier, at that time I used to pay a person, that is, I hired a broker, so he would charge me a fee and in return he would teach me trading, and besides, he would cooperate with me. I used to do it, that is, whenever I used to trade, he used to tell me that you should do this, that is, you should put a stop loss here, you should buy here, you should sell what you have here, all the methods he told me. But later because his fees were too high, I left him and started trading on my own, which led to a very loss able for me

There is no way that 95% are losing their trades and I cannot draw correlation between 95% traders being unprofitable and them earning through affiliate marketing or YouTube channels. It can never be 95% losing as trading will stop if that's the case. There are people who claims to be profitable traders by showing fabricated numbers and sell their signals or strategy which are designed to fail but not 95% as you claim. Let it be any trader initially they will have losing days but eventually they gain knowledge and create their own strategy which is unique for them based on their level of understanding and what works well for them.

If you say that 95% of traders are not as profitable as they claim, I might agree with that because many will boast about their earnings when they are not earning that much in reality because a trader will face losses as well, and if someone says that they don't, they are simply lying. However, I don't agree that 95% of traders stay in loss forever because if that was the case, cryptocurrency trading wouldn't be as much in demand as it is right now and we all know that something gets in demand when it is useful. People refer others when they see there is potential in it and not so that they can lose money.

People that are focused on creating content are not actual traders but they are part-time traders since they spend most of their time creating and preparing content for their audience. An actual trader would focus on learning and improving their trading knowledge instead of focusing on all these things you've mentioned.

The old ones lose and leave, the new ones come and after some time they also leave, it’s like a cycle. Why do you doubt that so many traders are losing money? I think these statistics are quite realistic. In fact, I think that few people can honestly admit their results in trading, especially some public trader, but for me it is not difficult to believe that the majority lose more than they earn. There are very few truly good traders, and sooner or later the market will beat everyone else.

Of course there are several or even many reasons that make them finally leave, one of which does not have a qualified understanding and knowledge and also does not have management on planning and cannot manage good self-control in terms of approach to their trading engagement, if one of the things I have mentioned above is in yourself then obviously you will experience a lot of unusual pressure in your trading engagement, not only losing money but also mentally and psychologically you will be disturbed, and that's what makes you or them finally give up and leave.

Telling people that your losses are much higher than your gains is like you are exposing yourself especially to some other traders who are involved in the same field as you and that is why I agree with your statement that it is quite difficult for a trader to be able to show the results of their trading transparently. For the problem of experiencing losses that dominate more than profits I think it's still reasonable and usually that condition happens more to those who are just starting the approach because the level of knowledge they have is still low, it doesn't matter because over time you will be able to develop more with the experience you have while you are there, but if in the long run there is no change then that's another thing.

Well, I could agree that the majority of the traders are not quite making good, most are experiencing losses rather than making a profit and that is because they are still learning or have fallen in the wrong direction. Many traders start trading only knowing the basics, some have started empty, and some are under the influence of these social media influencers --which is definitely not enough to expect passive results but instead terrible losses.

Most people in that they don't want to learn and that is what is influencing their losses because if you take a look at does people that actually do their trading professionally you notice that they even have books that they read its not just about trading. And their are styles that professionals use, their are plenty things to learn is not just about knowing and jumping to start trading, and if you follow what the social media is showing then you want learn because all you will be after always is just the profit.

While another category of new traders have a mindset of getting rich in trading because they are being influenced by photoshopped profits results online hoping to replicate it once they started trading unfortunately ended up on a losing side, experience traders hardly shows their presence because they keep on learning everyday, studying the chart constantly thus it won't be easy for any new trader to instantly start earning profit in trading this constitute majority of the 95% traders who are losers, consistency in earning profit in trading comes with many years of learning, studying and trading with losses and subsequently amend any mistakes in trading.

Those are kinds of strategy how you will sell your service and knowledge those people know is an efficient way of using social media as one of the possible sources of income if you know in yourself that you have the confidence to make an earning with that knowledge and skills why not use this as your source of income too, that's how smart people work for the money. Don't settle with just one source of income so they make a strategic way but of course make sure that you are teaching others with the knowledge that's they will learn and not just basic that anyone can understand and people paying you for just the basics.

It's simple: traders who don't become profitable in trading are obviously ignorant and need to learn more about crypto trading. We know that trading is not easy to learn here; it really takes time before we have an idea here, to be honest.

Just start with the basics and then gradually learn the description of each indicator used in the trading exchange platform, such as candlestick, timeframe, and so on.

Perhaps, they have the right mindset about trading but their approach is somewhat wrong, and they think that it is easy. The lack of knowledge and experience is a reason why they fail. That is why we should encourage them to make a priority in learning first rather than thinking about earning quickly because profit is not difficult if we have already good knowledge about trading. And of course, we stop following these influencers but instead, carry ourselves to learn more and discover strategies that will help us grow.

        -  We know that most of the traders who have an understanding and knowledge of trading are the ones who benefit greatly or get a profit from trading. That's why it's obvious that most of those who don't benefit or get profit are those who don't know the basic trading lesson here in the crypto space.

Let's not be like other newbies who don't know anything and just jump into copy trading; it's better and better because we discover our own strategy so that we can get profit in this trading industry.

But not everyone is responsible or truly intends to help others. Most of them just take advantage of people who don't know anything for their own benefit. I often visit paid channels that claim to offer courses. But when I see the content, the knowledge they provide is exactly the same as what we can see on YouTube channels or we can search on the search page.
Yes I know they also get money by doing that, but I just feel sorry for people who don't know anything or are used by them for personal gain.

Well said, but I don't think there will be a right-sensed person who would just venture into trading and investment without any fundamental learning. If done, the regret will be the case, and I love the fact that you didn't totally disregard copy trading like many would do, as many are indeed making money from it. Trading can be done in many ways, you may decide to trade yourself if you have the time, passion and experience that can make you earn from it, and you might decide to link your account with another trader or get signals from external sources, it doesn't matter. What matters is how your trading and investments are progressing, and it takes a whole lot of time to achieve that. I've heard people arguing many times that it's better to learn and trade yourself, but you know what, I always laugh because I have vast experience in trading. People do not have the same level of idleness in life, some don't even have time, while some don't have the experience and never will no matter how hard they learn. In this view, why not get help if you can't do it yourself? For sure, not everyone will profit from the market as the market is not designed for the nature and living style of everyone.

People need to understand that trading isn't rocket science, and it's easily learnable if you dedicate some time to it and open your mind regarding it. There are thousands of free resources available for someone willing to learn trading and master all trading techniques and practices. So, instead of paying someone to guide you, you should learn everything first and then do your trading yourself. You could save a lot of money if you had done this instead of hiring someone, the amount you paid to him could have been used for trading initially, and even if it was lost, you would have gained a lot of experience.

Traders can stay profitable if they have enough knowledge and experience about the market and every single cryptocurrency they trade in because when you know everything, you will be able to determine the windows in which you will need to make your trades, even if some of your trades don't go right, you will still be able to make more successful trades than the failed ones.

There are really things which arent meant for us no matter how hard we do and this is something which we should really be that versatile on whatever things do happen along the way.
We wont really be able to know unless we do try and this is why it is really that important that we should really be that prepared on whatever risks or outcome that it might bring.
Its true that in a market not all would really be profitable because if there's one who do make money, then there's other one who do lost up money on the other side on which this is something a
very normal condition or situation.

If you wont really be that making yourself that good in trading then you wont really be able to sustain. There's no way that you would be able to survive but of course
few mistakes or errors doesnt automatically means that trading isnt for you. It would really be just that normal that errors and mistakes would really be obtained along the way.

It means that trading is not just all about money (capital) but also, strategies, knowledge, and skills. Without these things, no way we could earn a profit but just losses only. That is why a lot of traders end up losing and quitting because they don't have any of those things, they don't even know how trading works, or how much more to do in actual trade. That is why they don't have a reason to succeed or even blame the market because only those who are skilled enough and have the urge to change their behavior will win.

more beginners are too hasty to start trading. with very little knowledge about trading, they take such a big risk to start trading. Of course, that will only result in several consecutive losses. after being quite satisfied with the loss, I think it is enough to provide experience to learn more before starting again.
However, some beginners still feel that it is not good to trade using their analysis. but instead believe more and follow trading signals. that's what happened.

To be honest, I think most people lose money in trading but many people can make a lot of profit. I have seen many people lose in business and many people can succeed because it is the type of business. When a person starts his new business he must acquire skills and experience in order to be successful so that he can be profitable. Also most of the people are not profitable and successful in the business field, they must acquire good knowledge in these matters only then they can be successful. There are many people around us who start business hoping for high profit and they are not very successful but many people want to start business after watching various YouTube videos they are mostly not successful. People also make videos about trading to earn money in different ways including youtube channel but if they were right they would never make such videos but start trading business. So most people get lost in trading and very few can succeed and profit.

On the time that they are seeing someone who are really that making money then they would really be that rushing up on trying out to learn up right away or engage into it which it is really that something a very common behavior into those people who are really that get easily addicted into it. Most traders we do say are indeed not profitable but doesnt mean that there wont really be people who are really that making profits too. It is really just that profitability will really that varying into someones capabilities when it comes to trading on which it does really count in speaking about knowledge and skills.

Those people who are really just that making those kind of learning on a very fast pace way because they are really that rushing up trying to learn it up then sooner or later
they would really be able to realize that it was never been that easy in the first place and it would really be taking up for some time before they would really be
having a good grasps into it. Everything takes time to learn up specially on trading on which its never been that so simple.

traders who make consistent profit or who are from those 5% will not be found on forums, youtube channel, telegram, etc.
because they don't have time and interest in selling their courses or secrets which not one will share easily, I have seen youtubers sharing fake PNL statements but there are lot of them.

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and so called professional are youtubers who are "professional" in trading because that is the way of their earnings that how they get there content to post on youtuber or any other platform.

I think at the start their analysis will be as bad as following others, and that's why they worry about not doing it themselves. If you worked really hard to figure out what you should buy and the moment you buy it goes down then you would feel sad about it as well, so I understand why they think someone else could be better than them.

But the reality is that on the long term they are making a mistake, because when they first start they will be bad, maybe even worse than what others can help them with so they are right, but then if they keep going, others will be much worse and make them lose money whereas if they insist then their analysis will get better and they will start making a lot more money. This is why I suggest newbies to make mistakes, it will make them lose some money that is true, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see them keep losing forever, eventually they will start to make some money from it as well given enough time.

If they could just use the money for long term investing and not trading then they could have made so much profit but because they insist on making money by trading they end up losing it all, I think that's the problem and should be considered a bigger deal than what we think. I understand that we may not think that this is a big deal, but at the end of the day we are going to end up with thinking that it is going to be fine and we trade with that mindset, thinking we will be fine.

If we are not fine that's a big deal and we end up losing and then we try to recover and make even bigger mistakes and lose even more money, that is why it is quite risky and dangerous and we should not be doing something like that at all, we should be careful.

I think the percentage ratio is not too far, maybe 60:40 or 70:30, because if it were that far, people wouldn't trade.
so I think your prediction is wrong.
and not always those who open such channels will lose, because the chance is 50%.

How you could be able to say so? There were no studies or proven out that those percentages were real. No one really knows on how many are the losers and how many are making profits.
But much sure that everyone is really that experiencing losses and profits. We do know that this isnt something that we can be able to know but pretty sure that the ones who are really that
making profits and there are ones who do losses. It would really be just that in between things. This is why we are really doing our very best for us to survive into this market.
You wont really be able to survive if we wont really be that wise when it comes to our trading analysis.

It would really be that just depending on how well we do make our trades and if you are really that eager to make yourself included into those
traders who are profitable then it would really be just that normal that you would really be finding your way on achieving it.

There are many reasons which can explain why people prefer trading over investing, however I think one of the most powerful is that most people are not comfortable with the idea of their money working for them, instead of taking the easiest and most obvious path which is to just invest in bitcoin and hold their coins for as long as they can, people cannot really accept that money can be made literally while they are sleeping, so they prefer to look at the charts, make complex strategies and perform many other activities thinking this is the way to get massive profits, only to discover way too late they were wrong and the easiest path was also the best.

But in reality, there are still lots of people who trade professionally, of course because it's profitable for them. However, not everyone will actually make a profit in trading. there are also many losses.

Yes, it cannot be denied that people who are focused on trading, they are really focused and serious about it, spending their time looking at charts and analyzing them, as well as trading several pairs and methods at almost the same time. Usually they don't just focus on 1 pairing. So in fact, as long as the city is ready for the risk of trading, we can legally choose to trade and collect profits little by little. Because usually one of the reasons is that some traders only have small capital, so it would not be worth it if they just invested. some think so.

Losses can become more frustrating especially for newbies who just enter the space and scouting for prominent projects to start up with. Talking about traders that are not profitable in the system, they're many and not everyone have the grace to earn from the system without facing difficulties from one or two basis in the system. Losses occur on a daily basis, and I will never back down from my actions of not generating money because there are numerous ways to execute if one is certain of producing large profits from the system. Paying someone for cryptocurrency coaching is a good and courageous step for everyone to comprehend and begin generating good income. We can genuinely learn to trade on our own because whatever we desire is available online, and milking the system is not regarded tough in the system.

those are scalpers ? the kind of traders that is good in taking small amount as profit but there is consistency things that is very hard to master (because I have tried this as well and trust me , so hard)

YouTube is a place where people are being fooled most of the time so lets not be a victim , instead do your job for your own money.

maybe he is correct , because some traders are just tried for several times and when they failed then will leave the trading platform but they are alreay counted as loser so the ratio is still correct .

Most traders suffer because they cannot be patient. Both profit and loss are our trading, if a trader only wants to make profit but never want to see his money in loss then his trading skill is quite wrong. The market is changing every moment and the change is only positive or negative. Buying a coin during a positive change and if the market turns negative will result in temporary losses. The mistake we make when the temporary loss occurs is whenever the market goes down a bit and when the market stays there for two to three days we panic and panic and sell our coins at a relative loss which is a big wrong decision for us. Every trader who can patiently wait for profit during losses will definitely profit.

Trading does not demand patience. Trading requires skill and experience.  But if you want to invest for long term, a lot of patience is required. The reason for losing instead of profiting through trading is that he does not have enough knowledge about trading.  And not doing potential market analysis. There are many people who think trading is too easy after seeing other's profit and rush to trade and that is why they lose while trading.

In my opinion, these beginners have a very high curiosity about trading and, in addition, they always read news related to trading issues, when they feel panicked after reading fake news, they will feel like selling the coins they own and in the end they will lose money. what they experience will have an impact on their physical and mental health, so it is not surprising that there are so many beginners who experience this, their curiosity and panic in situations of fear plus very little knowledge in trading, in fact experience in trading is really needed, to In trading, you must at least have the courage to take risks, whatever the risk, you still have to be calm and continue to monitor the movements of all prices in the market, don't be afraid if you buy a coin with a big name such as ETH, BNB or Bitcoin, whatever we lose, it is still valuable in all global markets.

Confidence in trading means you have to remain confident, so the decision you will take is a brave decision in my opinion, at least learning from that experience will be much better and later when trading you will be careful in choosing which coins to buy.

Actually there's no exemption into this one on which when it comes to new things that we are dealing with or something that we've seen which is something that interesting then it would really be just that normal for human beings would really be creating up that kind of desperation thing on which they would really be that trying out their best to make out that kind of engagement. Most common mistakes or errors is that we do usually on rushing up on trying to look for on how to make money that fast without even trying to realize on what are the things that you would really be needing up to learn first so that you could be able to make yourself that handle out with this unpredictable space.

Trading is never been simple in the first place but it doesnt really mean that people cant really be able to make dealing with. It is really just that matter of risks acceptance and would really be having
that realistic approach to it. Majority of us would really be committing out mistakes since we are really that setting out with those unrealistic approach towards it on which we do have those kind of thoughts
that we might really be that ending up on being successful with it in no time or in a simplel way on which it isnt really just right with having that kind of mindset.

But is waiting for the right moment to open a trade according to our strategy not patience? Of course, I don't think patience can always be taken away from traders, they trade using a strategy and don't just open trades, which means they will wait for the right time that suits their strategy to then open a trade to make a profit. Not only that, trading is not always profitable and that means that every trader cannot completely avoid losses and isn't patience also needed in situations that are experiencing losses? if there is no patience it means that traders will act recklessly because of the encouragement of emotions that are not restrained.

For other things I quite agree with you that experience which will become a skill is also very much needed in the world of trading, I honestly admit that one of the reasons traders experience losses is because they do not have qualified understanding and skills but they are desperate to trade because they are motivated by people who have managed to get big profits, even though there is something that the person has and does so that he can get big profits, namely qualified understanding and skills that they get from his experience.

Many people's lack of patience has caused them not to profit and enjoy Bitcoin, but because they are not patient enough, and they always fail to understand that trading Is very technical. As you stated, profit and loss must be experienced, so the market must be thoroughly researched before attempting to trade. The market is always changing, and proper knowledge will allow anyone to explore the market with less risk, and whether the market is positive or negative, you will know the best decision to make. And the issue of buying and resulting in loss is mostly a concern for holders and traders mostly concerned with the signals. And am sure nobody will want to sell anything now that the market is unstable. And during the bull holders will sell.

Speaking about patience then this something that we do really need to have specially on dealing up with this unpredictable space. If you are that someone whose really that impulsive and doesnt have that much in speaking about patience then you really that likely on committing out mistakes yet because you are really that somewhat in a hurry anytime and this kind of behavior doesnt really fit out on crypto world on which it does really involved on waiting. Unless if you are really that dealing with those shitcoins or memecoins which having those fast movements then it would be significant buf if you are really that sticking
into those top coins in the market on which movements arent really that crazy but still way more volatile if we do compare it out into other markets.

This is why it would really be that always best that you should really know on how to assess yourself to be that effective on dealing up with this volatile space.
Being profitable or non profitable in trading would really be that vary or would really be that depending into someones dealing with trading or on what are the
decisions that been made on which we know that decisions are really that crucial specially on the timing itself.

why do you think that trading do not demand patience? Do you expect to go into trading and start making profits from the market immediately? That is not possible. Patience is required for us to become a profitable gambler in the market. The market is huge and we can make profits from it if we know what we are doing. It is very obvious that many gamblers in the market are not profitable. The only way traders can be profitable is when they take another step working on themselves and learning about how to trade to be come experts in the market.

What you say you think has more to do with writing something without much thought for meet your quota than with bringing something meaningful to the conversation based on facts. Therefore, it is not surprising that what you say you think, for which you haven't actually thought much, is incorrect:

Why 95% of Stock Traders Fail (https://medium.com/@hunterbohm/why-95-of-stock-traders-fail-72a4d8327b35)

Swing Trading Strategies: Why 95% Of Traders Lose Money and How to Become 5% Who Succeed. Complete Investing Guide For Beginners and More Advanced Stock Investors. (Master Trader Book 2) Kindle Edition  (https://www.amazon.com/Swing-Trading-Strategies-Investing-Investors-ebook/dp/B092MM5KRM)

Scientist Discovered Why Most Traders Lose Money – 24 Surprising Statistics (https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money)

Why 90% Of Traders Lose Money (https://www.moneyshow.com/articles/tradingidea-60554/why-90-of-traders-lose-money/)

In my own point of view, 95% is way too much, at least 90% is ok.
I have been trading for quite some time now, and I can testify that even though I have got some losses at some point in time, but I am still profitable.
There are so many good traders I know very well in  the business that are profitable, even though there profit wouldn't be that much, but at least they are not at the losing end of the market.

I have a problem with the word "profitable". If OP say that most traders are not profitable does he or she means that they don't make money at all or tht they rarely make money or that the money they make from trading is not enough to call it a profit. This is what they fail to explain. Traders cannot all be profitable. If they are, it will be a huge problem for the market. However there will always the the one percent of traders who are consistently making profit because they have built up a channel for that and these are very experienced traders, the other non regular profit making traders are not experienced enough.

Whether it was 90% or 95%, no data that would prove how many traders lost their money and how money succeeded, it was just an assumption. But doesn't matter because we know that more traders suffered losses rather than making a profit and that is due to these things;
 - lack of knowledge
 - ineffective strategies
 - mindset/decision making

Well, of course, it is a domino effect, if a trader doesn't have knowledge and skills, we can never expect passive results but losses. Missing any of those things, nothing happens in our trade, we just fail.

If you don't have good knowledge about business you will face loss trading is not that easy if you don't have knowledge. Even if you know only 1% more than other people your knowledge and your experience are very close to the ideal business advice in general. But many investors fail to make that 10% of the market because they don't have enough time investing knowledge. They often miss annual returns, moving in and out of the stock market at the worst possible times.

What do you say actually? Business and trade is not same. two are totally different thing. But the purpose of these two is to make profit.  For trading you need to learn technical analysis which will increase your chances of profit. On the other hand you have to be patient.  Those who do not have good knowledge and do not adhere to these two things will never be able to make good profit from trading. Due to this, most of the traders face losses while trading

The people about whom you are talking can be considered as influencers who sometimes trade. You can also say like this that they are influencers with trading as their niche. They attract trading audience and make money from them. I have seen many times these type of people edit their daily profits and post in videos and reels, then they ask to DM them and at last they provide paid course. Like other high risk work, trading also needs enough practice to make good money. It can’t be taken easily.

Sometimes when I look at some influencers claiming that they are very profitable deceiving other traders making trading looks like it is very easy to make money from the market, I just laugh because many Influencers always make it look like trading is very easy for everyone without trying to illustrate that the process is very tough. Sometimes the newbies might be forced to ask themselves whether they are doing the right time or not. We need to ask questions about trading so that we can get clarity.

The term trader itself does not automatically means that you are a profitable trader. Some are still starting learning the process so expect that they will mostly lose than achieve profits. And others are only claiming profitable traders because they want to create a big impression on the people that recognize them, especially if they want to gain the trust of the people on social media.

Most traders are not profitable. Because if they really are, they will not take advantage anymore other opportunities just to stay in profits and would only focus on their craft.

You are making a mistake here, trading, as in the financial market trading is nothing but a business, after all, what we do is to buy and sell. In business, what do they do? Buying and selling of course. It is just that the model of buying and selling in online trading is electronic and is not structured the same way as that of the regular business.

There are many reasons for traders to lose but what you explained is not the reason as they are such that successful traders must know for them to be successful, just the same way it must be known by the losers as well. But the distinction between the two classes is that successful traders learn the right strategy, train with it to build the right trading system, and have plans with it, which entails the management, and also have a good trading psychology to complete the requirements. This means that successful traders apply what they know correctly.

But for the unsuccessful ones, though they might learn and know how to trade, but the fact that they are losing only points to faulty utilization of what they know.

Most people like what you are talking about, only a few people really get profits from regular trading results, most people also take advantage of fame to get profits such as opening VIP & signal classes, referrals and so on, the market situation is difficult to know unless with a certain moment

Without specific business knowledge you will never be able to profit from investing in business. For you to profit from trading you need to have some advanced knowledge from other traders.  Trading is not an easy matter, there are some traders who fail to earn 10% to 15% after investing in the market because of their lack of knowledge or experience. Those who do not have the combination of knowledge, patience and experience will never be able to profit from trading. Because of this, most of the businessmen face losses while doing business.

I agree with you, a lot of them are not profitable as they tell, there is this expert trader I was following on YouTube, he use to drop beautiful lessons and good trading tutorials, as I started following his channel on YouTube I found out that he is posting and doing tutorial every single day and I began to wonder what time is he really trading because i have come to learn that trading involved a lot of research and critical analysis, monitoring the market but not so with him, he is on YouTube everyday .

So I don't think his money is coming from trading but through his YouTube channel.

Trading is not a simple way to make money because it takes a variety of tactics and abilities that not everyone possesses. for those who can use this tactic or expertise, trading crypto currency is a matter of patience. when to invest is crucial in trading. another issue is that, after investing, you have to wait patiently for the appropriate opportunity to trade. You can't act rashly.

Totally agreed with it ,More than 90% of traders are not profitable at all have read a lot of articles which have proofs to back up this Fact . Only those youtubers say otherwise cause their source of revenue depends on that and the courses they sell to their followers deceiving them that trading is very easy and everyone can become a millionaire within a short period of time.

I think these numbers have been like this for a very long time and need to be updated as the game of trading has become much easier and understandable thanks to readily available resources all over the internet to help people trade profitably..and honestly its safe say we have more winners out there than we did back then!!

Kind of true and unfortunately many of our influencer traders have done the math that they can actually make more money doing this than the actual trading which is why they are going off course these passive ways of making money.

This isnt entirely true as some have gone to open up YouTube or Social media accounts as a way to help others Users trade correctly  & profitably and not sorely for the passive income. Btw it's easy to say successful traders don't get to have YouTube channels only because these might have other day jobs and kind of trade as a side hustle!!

Just think if someone is making a lot of money he will share his strategy with others if there isn't any benefit for him. A successful trader won't waste his time making videos to teach others if there aren't any benefits for him on that because trading requires a lot of time so if he gets any free time he will use that with his family or in something fun for a refreshment. Most of the youtube trading channel owner is content creator, not a trader. They earn by making content not by doing trading so the strategy they share is not tested in the real market. They just made those to impress his audiencee.

It is really true that most of traders are loser and they are not profitable in trading. There has many reason for not profitable. I think main reason they are not educated in this sector. So they are coming for only profit from trading but they are not learn about trading.  Besides this there are some reason for not profitable in this sector.

Like- 
* Not Proper knowledge about trading
* No proper knowledge about fund management.
* No any knowledge about risk management
* Greediness in trading.
* Too rich within short time.
* Lack of recherch about trading. Etc.

I think lack of proper knowledge about trading and avoid to follow this mention point prople not profitable in trading. But some traders are huge experienced and they follow trading rules properly so they are profitable in trading.

When we are still that a noob then we would really be definitely be able to experience these things but we do know that these are normal behaviors on which a certain individual would really be able to felt up with on which we do know that this is something that would really be that so common to happen. It is really just that depending on someone whether they would really be able to learn up from those mistakes or
they would really be just that simply giving up and would really be finding for another venture. Trading is never been that simple or simply its too hard and not all would really be able to obtain such skill
on a short period of time on which it would really be that understandable that there would really be those specific behavior that would really be making you that able to sustain at least this unpredictable space.
Failing up once or twice doesnt mean that you cant be able to make yourself better in gambling, once you do make out those kind of realizations then you would really be making out
those kind of adjustments in a period of time on which it wouldnt be short but at least you are really heading there.

I think the same as you. If 95% the traders got losses, there is no high interest to trade crypto coins anymore. It is even worse than gambling that still have the chance to win or lose 50:50. Also, I'm not sure whether the stats is valid or not. I don't think it is easy to get the data about the success in trading among the traders around the world. How to get the data? How to hold the survey?  ???

I agree that people may get losses in the early of their trading journey but they will learn from the mistakes and be successful later. There is 2 options, they will survive in trading if they can have a better earning or they will quit trading if it is getting worse. I still read many good statements related to trading, it indicates many people still do it and succeed with their trading. Even, there are many people who share the tips to increase the chance of the success in trading.

True, and there they are talking about trading like they are good and how expert they are, even flexing their achievements through trading, which is, we know, a scheme so that many viewers will be attracted and interested in trading, and that's when the content creators will offer their services, such as investing, to them or they are the ones who will handle the trade. Well, there are content creators that are legit, but there are few. I would rather believe if they live stream and show the viewers how they trade or if they really are earning. Sadly, many newbies in trading are being blinded by the luxurious lives of so-called traders; little do they know they are only showing the good side of their trade, not their losses. So don't be fooled in the internet get only some tips and knowledge if there was but never ever idolised them and have the wrong courage in trading.

Majority of traders are not actually making good profits in trading as most of them are still suffering from losses. And we can’t blame them because majority of traders nowadays are still newbies that jump into trading just to satisfy their greed and make huge profits like those veteran traders. I’m not saying that newbies are not capable to trade but they should know when to trade and when not to. Since they are still newbies, at least their focus should be learning and developing their skills and strategies in trading, and not jump into live trading and eventually suffer from losses due to lack of trading experience and skills.

Actually trading is very tough work. Because if wee see too many people are buying one coin and too many people are selling this one can so it's mean this one coin is pumping and dumping because of these buyers and sellers. So point to be noted that from this one coin how much people get benefit and how Kuch are stuck due to not selling. The main fact is to sell on time is best profit. But how can we know the best profit? It's depends upon your thoughts that how much money required for you to leave the trade.

It's better to guess one figure for whole the day or from one coin that this will be my profile. Whenever the coin reach the target sell it and book your profit. So you will not be in those traders which are getting loss every time. Because you have setup a mission for every day. You will be free of loss.

Everything depends on the knowledge we know, whether it's from many coins or just one coin, in my opinion it's the same.
With price movements that are quite fast, of course everything is possible and there is nothing wrong if many people experience losses in trading, it's all because they don't have the proper knowledge in trading (luck is also a factor).

Regarding the planning in trading that we do will certainly be different and we all have different plans even though the goal is the same, I think this mechanism can be implemented freely because the main goal is to take advantage regardless of how.

Many people go online to find get rich quick schemes, where they can put little efforts and make so much money, they think that one of the ways to achieve this aim is to go into crypto trading. And YouTubers who're out to make money off them will scam them, eventually they'll enter the trading without adequate knowledge and lose all their money, some will then learn the hard way on the job about how to actually trade and others will call crypto trading a scam , then leave.

Some tough and serious work and this is why it would really be just that right that you should really be that serious on making dealing with it or else you would really be ending up on tons of mistakes on which this is something that must be avoided.When it comes to trading or learning up such skills then this isnt something that you could really be able to have a good grasps in a short span of time on which it would really be
just that so normal that you would really be having a hard time on trying to get a hold of it. It would be taking up soo much time and effort for you to be able to have that kind of learning.

How do  you able to know that most traders arent that profitable? There's no way that it could be known considering that traders arent something that  you could be able to know each one of them
on which there's no way that you could be able to point out your fingers on who are the ones who are making money and the ones who are really that losing.
As long this market would be continuing on running or does exist then people would really be having that interest on dealing up with it.

They would be making out those realizations indeed on the time that they would be having those huge losses. I do agree on what you have said that mistakes are the stepping
stones on someones learning on which this will really be helpful for them to make themselves way more better than before. It is really just that there are people who do easily give up and quit
compared into those people who are really that planning to go ahead no matter what the odds on making themselves profitable.This is why i do agree that this one would really be also lining on someones interest
because if he's really not that passionate on what he's/shes' doing then it would really be just that easy to give up and this is something that should really be avoided if
you are really that serious on learning trading and able to survive for long time with this unpredictable market.

Then they are wasting their time in trading because we already foresee what will happen to these traders where in trading without knowledge that certainly impossible to make money but losses. And this kind of thinking should be changed if we are our money and if we are smart enough ti evaluate the situation as we can't just be blind knowing that trading simply doesn't work with proper knowledge, trading skills, and effective strategies. That is why a lot of people fall into the scam because of these media influencers, and a lot of people lose their money due to misinformation. And this will repeatedly happen because still a lot of individuals are greedy and believe in the wrong views of trading (easy money).

rich people are actually not from trading. but from his side business around trading itself. for example, open paid training. youtuber earning by uploading videos about trading. affiliate this means if in forex become IB (introduce broker). if only from trading profit yes only to meet his needs not to make a trader rich.

Certainly yes. Most traders are not profitable, some are just good at pretending most particularly for those who are in social media, making the people believe that they are good in trading will benefit them in the end, and will leave the people at loss. Another thing also is that they won’t expose theirselves as a trader if they really are profitable and successful traders, they are just putting theirselves in danger.

The same applies to a trader who is not successful, but is trying to show himself as such, perhaps to sell his “successful trading strategy.” If they position themselves as a success trader, then they also risk falling under the attention of scammers who want to take their money, and then they will also need to prove to them that there is no money, and this is just a marketing ploy to attract clients.  ;D

Only noobs are the ones who do really easily fall out with these cheap tricks on which the thing that mainly causes on why people do end up on falling into this trap is that they do really have those behavior on trying out to fast pace things without even trying out to learn up with the basics and this is what they would really be having in mind if ever they would really be encountering things that it seems that they would really be on fast tract then for sure they would really be that easily get it with those things or simply being just being trapped and make them believe until they would really be losing up their money on it.

Trading is never been simple but doesnt mean that it would be impossible for you to make money or for you to succeed. It all matters with someone hard work and on how they would really be
handling themselves with these challenges on which of course this is something that you would really be needing to survive and this is really just that the
only way that you could really be able to make yourself have that  chance on surviving this unpredictable market.

What you need to remember. People don't get rich overnight. What most people at first glance see as wealth, a great career, and dreams are the result of hard work and hard work over time in trading. So becoming successful in trading doesn't happen magically. Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it.

Lots of YouTubers have sprung up, in fact they only pretend to make a profit just to attract people to be interested in trading the way they want. In fact, quite a few people dress up in fancy costumes to attract the attention of the audience, thus making people interested but without good knowledge, causing harm to those watching. It is true that there are also ones that are truly educational, but not many, therefore we need to be selective in watching YouTubers.

By the way, I’ve been following a public trader for a while now, by the way, he doesn’t sell any trading strategies or signals, he just demonstrates his transactions, writes what he buys, when he buys and for what amount.

But he has a very large community, and I suspect that this can somehow act in his interests, if let’s say he writes that he is buying a coin for a large amount, the community starts buying with him (and his community is more than a million), this is probably can affect a coin with not a very large capitalization. Although these are just my assumptions.

They become rich because they believe that they can do it. They become successful in trading because they do the required things. Failing is not the mindset for someone who wants to improve but instead, positivity and optimism. Success comes in perfect timing and usually after the struggles and hard work.

If not all, the majority of them are always pretending and hiding the truth about who really they are. Because most of us judge a person based on the outside look. It is easy for them to fool people by saying " I earn a lot of money from Trading" because they look wealthy.
I think we need this; must know whom to trust and whom to listen to. Not all who are good at speaking about trading are traders, they just get ideas on books and searches.

If someone does something like that, of course it is very unfortunate if beginners follow what they do and it would be better for everyone who wants to trade not to follow such services who only want to make a profit for themselves by committing fraud like that and it will also be more Well, everyone who wants to trade does their own research and don't be easily tempted by people who sell fake trading strategies that will cause losses if we follow them.

Trading knowledge can be learned visually or by reading books. There are many books that teach traders how to perform fundamental and technical analysis. They need to read it and hone their trading skills, it is much better for a trader than copying what other people do. There are lots of books sold on the market, of course they can buy based on their interests, but success only depends on their actions.

Being interested in other people's profits and being interested in how other people proceed to get profits are different things. We cannot be imitators and get the same share as other people, but the process they go through can be used as a lesson so that we can also benefit. Yes, it's learning. Not everything you see on YouTube is true, so of course one needs to be selective.

For those noobs who would really be loving on having that kind of thinking that they could be able to take up some shortcuts via following these groups or signals or whatsoever.Then, sooner or later they would really be finding themselves into such condition or situation that they've been doing some bad decisions into their trades. Well, this is how people do really make out these self learnings on the time that they would be experiencing those unfortunate conditions on which it would really be that understandable that people would really be having those kind of reactions or impressions on the time that they are still lacking experience and knowledge.

There's no way that we could really be able to tell that there are more unprofitable traders compared to those who are making money or profits. We do know that into this market then it would really be
that a clash with those buyers and sellers or simply with those traders. If there's someone who do make money then there's someone who do loses in the other side.
This is the basic concept on how this market works and this is why for you as a trader then you would really be finding yourself on ways or methods on including yourself into those profitable ones.

Being a trader, I cannot tell honestly that there more traders who are losing than making profits just because they are seen hyping in social media. We all have different avenues when it comes to acquiring profits, so if they are also using the social media as another source of income not by giving unreliable trading strategies but by educating those aspiring traders, then I can say that’s also a good source of income.

The only problem is that this social media is most likely used as a scammer’s outlet to deceive innocent people. This is where getting the right information should never be disregard. Always chose wisely those who are too good to be true and those who are not.

Well there are still things like that offline but it's just that the internet is being trendy now, so in order for them to save time and find more options, they just do it online. When cryptos are born and shitcoins and meme coins came out, they became one of the choice of those investors because there are lots of those coins. Once the other had come and go, it will only be replaced by a new one.

Crypto trading was still hard but if they are willing to learn it, why will they pick risky coins? Some Youtubers can only spread misleading information but they are not the ones that do a scam, except if they are the owner of the coins that they promote.

Providing trading strategies and educating beginner traders can indeed give us a good income because there are many beginners who can use their social media to find out about trading strategies that they will use to learn to be able to trade and they have to look for those who have a good history. can indeed trade correctly, not just sell trading strategies that only benefit themselves while those who use their strategies cannot make any profits.

For beginners, of course they must be able to distinguish which channels are deceiving their users and which ones can actually provide good trading strategies to be able to make a profit, because if they choose the wrong channel they will certainly get the wrong information which will result in them experiencing losses in their trading.

sometimes I think like that, logically I think if they are experts in trading why do they have to bother opening paid classes, showing them on YouTube, if the trading they do is accurate and profitable I think it is better for them to focus on their trading and enjoy profit rather than having to bother opening classes or anything that asks their members to pay money

It is possible to complete the example with me because already i have completely wasted large capital in trading. I am now facing a big problem because I raised money in loan which was a loss while trading. Now i believe in my heart that the investment will be the best for me and i will get profit from it very easily. Few days ago my friend made big money from memecoin holding which is really appreciated.

Of course it would be better for those who have had good experience with trading, if they really want to share their trading strategies, it would be better for them to show them on YouTube and if they can't do that, I think there may be some people who take advantage of this situation to cheat. beginners who are new to trading and they want profits and they take advantage of this situation to make profits by opening classes that teach about trading and they have to pay for it but it is not certain that the strategies they teach can produce profits from their trading.

and the result is that now many people depend on paid classes, but if people understand the skills they learn themselves, it is much better because we can use the skills we have continuously without having to pay and also we get lessons from every trade we make not just from one source and depend on other people, understand the risks and don't give up, because if we are experts, of course everything can pay off

No matter how great a trader is, he has lost at least once in his life. I think, there is no trader who has made a profit every time he has traded, he can never say that he has won 100%, he has lost even once. Trading never gives guaranteed profit to anyone, because trading is very risky. But you can make a lot of profit if you understand trading well and use a good trading strategy. Trading depends on the daily market conditions, if you do market research well before trading, your chances of profiting from trading will increase greatly. So understand everything well before trading, and then trade.

You made a mistake and you probably did it because you didn't have enough knowledge and know what you should and shouldn't do when you decide to start trading. Trading cryptocurrencies is a risky thing because they are volatile assets and the market is highly unpredictable, and when you are trading in such a volatile market, you don't take loans to make your trades because if you lose the money for any reason, you will surely get in trouble.

This is why every single person that has some experience in this market will say that you should only use the money that is yours and that isn't supposed to be used for anything else so that when you invest it and something happens or even if they get stuck due to market conditions, you don't have other problems with it.

Dealing up with trading isnt something that do talks about automatic profits, you would really be needing to work hard for it and would be making those wise decisions. Newbies do usually having those kind of mindset
on which they are really that believing that they could really be able to make themselves rich with trading without even trying out to look on whats the real deal and thing here on this space.
We cant really be able to tell that trading isnt profitable, if it werent profitable then there would be no traders and just that minding off about the basic concept of trading then of course this is something
that you would really be needing to have that kind of tug of war in between sellers and buyers and if you arent that good enough when it comes to buying and selling then
you would really be outgamed for those who do know on what they are doing.

One of the main issues our people facing is that they don't take the time to learn how to trade. The majority of people have failed at it because they are unaware that information is the basis for everything in today's world. If someone truly wants to excel in any endeavor they choose to embark on in this life they are presently living, they must conduct extensive research about it. However, some people will just begin trading without understanding the risks involved, even though it can yield a sizable profit. In this case, the individual most make an effort to learn everything to also know about cryptocurrencies and technical analysis.

Particularly those biginners, who are expanding into trading without a solid grasp, typically fall into this category. I believe it will benefit everyone, not just me, if we can be patient and learn about whatever we want to introduce ourselves to, not only trading, so that even if we only grasp a little we may profit much.

Profitability should be taken in the case of consistency.
Partaking in trading -related generated income programmes(affiliate,ads for exchanges) does not mean you are unprofitable.
Trading should just be considered as a single man business and focus on what works for you than throwing shades on others.
Profitability is repeating what you know and taking it when it appears on chart over and over again and constantly making profits and incurring less loses

I agree. Especially, I find trading channels interesting. Recently, I followed a couple of signals on futures based on these recommendations. Both signals ended up in liquidation, so most of these channels won't really improve trading skills; they might even harm them. Many novice traders often support the idea of easy profits, but the reality turns out to be quite different. I believe that to become a successful trader, one needs not only financial knowledge but also emotional stability and discipline.

The fact that most traders lose their money is a banal truth known to almost all traders. But what is surprising is how little truly authoritative research has been done on this topic to support this thesis. In addition, the few studies that exist are devoted mainly to short-term day traders. As for medium-term traders who trade within a week, month or quarter, there are few such studies.
      There is even less research on the profitability of investors than there is research on the profitability of medium-term traders. This may be due to the difficulty of such research, because it takes many years and not all investors are willing to disclose information about their profits.
          But in general, all researchers have the same numbers. Over the long term, from 70 to 95-98% of traders lose their funds.

In addition to the financial knowledge and emotional stability, a trader also needs experience to become a profiting trader. Many traders are losing because they are depending on signal channels meanwhile signal channels aren't reliable. You don't know what you're receiving when they send you trading signals, you won't know if its a fake signal or an accurate signal and if you have the abilities to verify the signals you don't need to be using a signal channel for trading but depending on your own knowledge tobbe analyzing the market. Most traders aren't emotional alright, they lack the balance between their emotions therefore they open trades with emotions and it causes them to fail.

There are many people who invest but they don't understand how to invite and test because they don't know their basic knowledge.
Moreover, those who do tat are accepting the signal, there is no single, because if you take the signal, you will choose their sub, not choose on your own, if you can't do it yourself, then you will eat more with the profit and leave the exile with many singles.  Today there are traders without interest, they only train in the market depending on the signal and they are the next to profit.

Many like to show what they are not.  And common people like to believe it without verifying it.  If someone claims to be a successful trader, then there is nothing we can do. We should check before trusting someone. And successful traders who are less inclined to introduce themselves.  Trading is not possible for everyone.  Trading requires proper skills.

There is nothing we can do but the reality will sink in to them that they are not real traders and they're not really profitable at all. There's a lot of deception happening especially in social media when an influencer is trying to be famous with their own ways through trading.
They make a lot of contents on how profitable they are and in reality, what makes them stay here is that their social media following and presence and just trying to be relevant but not really showing good results.

When someone trades without having knowledge of course they only do it based on what they see and not because of knowledge about how to analyze the market well and if they follow signals it is not certain that what they follow can be used fully of course we need good knowledge so that we can compare with the signals we get with the knowledge we have.

It is better to seek knowledge and also practice trading so that we can gain profits from trading because if we only rely on signals we could be wrong in choosing the signal provider service and we don't know and we also fail in trading.

As long as they are making profits then they are good to go. Trading is not everyone's job because it requires a lot of patience.
Frequent losses will kill you from inside but you need patience to tackle the losses and still trade with skill to make profits.
A lot of it also depends on trading skills and that comes only with experience. We need to put in dedicated effort to gain those skills.

    Honestly speaking, what you say is correct, but until now, the majority of traders in the field of cryptocurrency are still losers. And I think that's normal because maybe the other traders are still exploring or practicing so that some can improve their trading skills.

    Also, with every defeat or loss, there are some people who still take it as a lesson to learn so that they can grow even more in the future with their trading skills that are being practiced right now, right?

Experience comes with time, knowledge is the necessary thing to get started because when you know something, you can start doing it, and over time, you will become experienced in that thing, but if you don't know, the initial phase will be much more difficult for you because you will need to grind a lot until you become experienced and learn everything by failing several times in it which isn't a pleasant experience.

When it comes to trading, one should gain enough knowledge to be able to understand everything and be able to do things effectively, and over time, they will become experienced traders and then they will understand things that they might haven't understood initially when they just had knowledge but no experience.

Well, you could say that. But things like these doesn't happen specifically within the Trading World and I'm not so sure about the distinction between successful and unsuccessful traders doing this because as far as I'm concerned both sides of the spectrum will and have been able to put out their courses for a price. That's what they have . I've seen business gurus and motivational coaches from across the space talk about their stupid fucking courses that could make your ass rich overnight, long as you buy their courses that cost 5-10 bucks a piece. Unsuccessful traders here would often find themselves complaining about trading, and somewhat successful traders will find this whole rendezvous profitable and make it their main hustle until it stops working for them.

Clever traders and businessmen will profiteer out of it and make courses that wouldn't really help the students for shit cause they know that if their secret to success goes out they'd be toast, so just enough for it to be passable enough to not rile attention. That's been their formula all these years and I don't see that ever changing.

Only if the trader continues to do that. Because there are traders that are frustrated already and that is what they want to do, to stop when it is no longer profitable to them.
Many are fantasizing to become a trader but they didn't know that it takes time and money for them to become successful. When someone is called a trader, it is not always profitable at all and count more of their losses as it is more than the wins.

The problem is that many people still think that trading is one of the ways to earn easy money, and that's why many people fantasize about becoming a trader. This is because they only look at the time of profit, but they do not look at the time of loss. This makes people even more convinced that trading can indeed bring profits quickly.

Whereas in practice it is not as easy as what is imagined, we are required to have knowledge, experience, even mentality will be very influential in an ongoing trade. Capital or money is certainly the first thing that must be owned and also keep in mind that the money that will be allocated to trade is money that we are responsible for.

The probability of being profitable in trading is very low. Future is a very difficult thing to grasp in trading. In fact, if the maximum amount of profit could be made by trading, traders would not have come to YouTube and started various courses. I partially agree with your statement. First of all, if they were not profitable then people would not trust them. As a result, I think they must be doing these things based on their experience. Secondly the businessmen will be doing it on YouTube for their profit as well. But I also cannot deny that trading is risky and there is little chance of profit. This requires a considerable amount of research and time. And those who are novice traders should do proper amount of research judgment analysis. So what you do should be done carefully.

As there is no definite and accurate information on this, I naturally do not accept this. If any such calculations were done by survey, I would believe that most traders are losing money instead of making profit. If most traders didn't make a profit then there wouldn't be so many coins bought and sold in the market. What we know is very little and because of that little knowledge we cannot compare all traders with that little amount of traders.

If a test is conducted among 100 traders, everyone's trading strategy will be different, everyone's trading skills will be different, everyone's experience will be different. Trading skill experience and strategy play a huge role in profit and loss in trading. Just as you cannot match an experienced trader with a new trader, you can never match an incompetent trader with a genuine trader. So I will always argue that most traders cannot trade profitably.

In a trade, of course there are winners and losers, but some statements state that the number of traders who lose is much greater than the traders who win, this is due to the wrong mindset in trading. Most people trade with emotion and think that trading is a quick way to make money, on the other hand, those who experience big profits when trading become arrogant and become complacent and think that they are masters of trading, and of course there are many other factors.

Depending on only one source of income is not good, which many traders has woken up from their sleep never to take only crypto trading as their only source of income and you can see that it has increased many traders in the community positively. I have seen many social media when some professional traders are conducting some tutorial on how to make profits from crypto trading and still remain profitable in other business, and a huge amount of people are learning from them and they are ready to pay for the service.  Once you can be able to take the risk to practice what you have be thought concerning the trading, I think you can be part of those profitable traders.

Also I faced similar thing by bought a subscription for one month, Firstly i am tried some free signals and I got success in few trade then I bought their paid course and at the first time I got profits but end of the day liquidation. No matter how experienced people are, They cannot guarantee about profit here.

Do you depend on your trading from the signals you pay for? Now you have proven that the signal you receive cannot be accurate either. but in trading, those who are experienced can minimize the risk of loss if the situation does not go according to plan. If you get a paid signal and are not told about the planning involved in the signal provided, maybe you bought the wrong signal.

Cause they just follow the hype from YouTubers and influencers not the actual learning concept. Trading is like going to school to study a program.First you need the right mentors ,good mindset, willing to put in the effort and lastly put into practice what you have learn.It will also take time to become a profitable and professional traders most people are not willing to follow that route that why many fail in the trading business.

This is so accurate there are both types of traders winners and losers. Winners know how to have control over emotions, not be too greedy, and how to avoid impulsive decisions so that they can easily get success in their trades and count as winners but those who do not have control over their greed, emotions, and impulsive decisions count as loser traders.

Along with the facts, I have mentioned above about loser traders many do over trading and face big losses due to their greed of earning more and more this thing leads them to a loser side. One should know over trading is not a good habit he/she should also have good control over this and have to control his/her greed to avoid loss. Also many traders do not have sufficint knowledge about techincal analysis and fundamental analysis and they follow other traders signal and this thing also make them a loser trader. A trader should have basic knowlede about Technical analysis and fundamental analysis. Before taking any trade it is important to learn otherwise his/her all trader act like gambling due to his/her insufficient knowledge.

That's why trading is difficult, and not everyone can do it. Maybe there are many factors that make them fail, such as rushing, choosing the wrong investment, being impatient, and many other factors. Even though they have taken courses and so on, it does not guarantee that they will be successful in the world of trading. In fact, many people are impatient with trading, for example, there are many people who experience profits after holding for months or even years, or they analyze signals incorrectly. Therefore, people are always stressed to use money that they can lose because the risk of trading is very large, but the potential for making multiple profits is also very large. So, before entering trading, we need to have the right strategy and preparation.

Depending on only trading as your source of income isn't good because trading can be frustrating sometimes. Being a trader you will have some days that you won't be able to figure out what you're doing wrong with your trades that's making you not to make gains. Some other days the market can be very bad that you won't be able to trade for profits if you're only using spot exchange for trading. Since many traders haven't started trading through future means that they can make profit no matter the direction the market is moving, until then no individual should depend only on trading as your source of income. Many traders are losing when trading because they don't yet know how to trade but just doing it to look for fast money.

Making trading as your main source of income isnt something that you could really be easily be able to do so. Why? its not something a skill that you could really be able to make yourself to acquire in a short span of time.
Yes, there are people or traders who do make it as their main source of living but it would really be getting involved with many times or hours on dealing up with it and tons of trials and errors before you could really be able to have a good grasps into it. Traders are not profitable? No one really knows yet this one is something a personal kind of information that cant really be known or to be shared up. One things for sure into those who are profitable are the ones who are really that still be able to make trades for long time period. We cant also tell since there are type of traders which are swing/trend types too on which they arent making active trades
compared into those who are making day/scaling trade type on which we know that not all would really be able to bare up with.

To be able to learn trading properly of course we have to find a good mentor who can teach us about trading properly so that we can trade correctly. Maybe only some people can survive their learning process and for those who can survive of course they will be able to become a successful trader and after we learn from an experienced trader, we will be able to ask them to share their experiences about trading which will be a motivation for us in trading.

When we trade we must have enough knowledge about the trade we cannot trade properly if we do not acquire enough knowledge about the trade. Before trading we must know enough about the trade and check the market patiently and have a long term plan otherwise the loss will be more than the success through the trade. Many times we don't have a good idea about trade and are in a hurry to trade. And there are many risks in trade, we have to invest patiently with that risk, then we can do something good through trade. We always have to have a long-term plan for trading. If we have a long-term vision and trade patiently after checking the market, we will definitely be a successful trader.

People are always trapped in something that is advertised and they never think of studying the truth, at least that's what is shown and other evidence of how they try to make paid channels by offering trading skills everywhere. Trading is not always profitable and even though people are experienced because if the profit assumptions are greater than losses, people do not need to withstand bitcoin for a long period of time to generate maximum profits. Of course trading has a level of profit and loss but the way of handling will be much different and depends on the psychological readiness of each individual involved in it.

If we think trading cannot provide benefits and we don't have good abilities here then you should look for other ways. Do not force something that we cannot do because actually someone's skills are different even though we have the same opportunity in learning them. If we think that trading is not a suitable place then find other places that can be more responsible, for example such as long -term investments that do not require much knowledge.

It's not about selling their skills it's about showing people wrong proof of their profits and attracting customers.Its a big fraud that is happening in the market course sellers show people that they are getting a lot of profit From their trade but in real they're not.You should at least have guts to show people what you're capable of.

New traders in search of quick profits believe them and after they join their course they get to know that it's not something that they thought off.Its the fault from both sides but the course sellers are more at fault here.

you are a little wrong in that case, if trading has a low probability of profit why do people still want to trade to make a profit? it proves that trading is still relevant and has good opportunities for people. but it is true that it is quite difficult to master it and depending on the market and the instrument being traded, trading has different risks. so to avoid trading risks and the possibility of higher losses, a trader should first study the market he wants to enter and learn the best strategy so that he can make a profit from it.

Majority of traders are not using their knowledge but they are participating in trading due to quick profit but they don't know that quick profit is not for everyone. Number of losser are more in trading because they don't use strategies but do what other people suggests and follow the steps of other but sometimes it is necessary to use our own mind.

Some people think that they have gained complete knowledge by watching a single video and reading an articles about trading but they don't know that experience is also somethings that puts huge effects on one's success. Trading is not easy and without knowledge if someone assume that he will become an expert in a month then he is wrong.

Most of the time, the trading videos uploaded on YouTube highlight only the positive aspects of trading, which is why new traders directly try to trade according to the strategy of YouTube. Since a YouTuber has uploaded successful videos in many attempts, it can be assumed in advance that trading by himself will not be as profitable as that YouTuber. Those who understand this much do not only lose money by trading but there are some people who are wrong to be called traders because they do not know what trading is. If they knew trading well, they would have tried to profit from trading by becoming proficient in trading themselves rather than directly depending on others. When a user trades based on his own knowledge, his trades are more likely to succeed

It is not only about the wrong mindset, but I doubt if any research to claim that there are more losers over winners in trading. If there is no valid research about this, it is just a random statement. In trading, it should be safer than gambling, specifically if we have good knowledge about trading. Actually, the chance for taking profits is higher as long as we know how to trader properly. Only people who trade carelessly who may have a bigger chance for losing money.

There are some people who trade with emotion because they don't know it is a risky way. But when they understand the emotion will harm trading, they may change the attitude. They also will realize the arrogance is good for trading. It is just a learning process to get a proper way in trading. I'm sure there are no traders who will always trade with emotion and arrogance.

Having a youtube channel doesn't make you a successful trader. The purpose of making a youtube channel just to educate people about certain strategies and events in cryptocurrency scene or just solely for some good chunk of money through youtube views and ads. I do not see an appeal to follow all the advices from youtube videos, because it could be outdated.

Trading is not profitable for some people and it's not for everyone.

Most people who trade in this industry can only make small profits, especially for those who focus on day trading, the profit presentation is very small, in fact they spend a lot of time just monitoring market price movements.  Therefore trading can be very profitable depending on the right situation and momentum and cannot be done every day, of course we also have to be able to analyze when is the right time to determine trading on several types of coins.

The biggest warning signals are always that these "traders" act more like influencers than actual traders. They show off their lambo (probably leased) and their watches and other luxury items (also obviously leased). And people look at them and think they know what they are doing when in reality, they are just making money off of paid courses, signals or other things as you have mentioned in your list.

I do not think anyone can learn anything from them. Although there are also good traders, but they are hard to spot to the untrained eye.

Smile.. You've so perfectly analyzed those acclaimed traders trying to sell their trading course or signals. They're the ones acting like celebrities on YouTube.

While trading is a lucrative endeavor, those who profit from trading often don't have the time trying to beg others to buy their trading course. Hahaha. . It took me weeks of checks on Bitget elite copy trader's profile before deciding who's trades to mirror. Eventually when I decided, I didn't go for those on the top list. I went for the one with fewer trade that are followed by very few.

Even if you do daytrading, you can earn big profits if you use big funds/capital. So, you can't judge people only can make small profits only. The profits always depend on the capital and the ability in trading. Common traders may use average funds and get small profits. But experienced/professional trader probably use big capitals and they always target for big profits. In this matter, there are many factors that determine how much to get profits. It is not only about the timing, but it is also about the amount of capital and ability/skills.

However, if you are not a professional trader, kindly use small funds only. When you use big funds, the risk will be higher as well. We will may lose big money although it also means the chance to get bigger profits.

Yes, the so called traders that always give people assurance of 100% guarantee of profit, making them release the money so they can invest on them to trade, I have seen some traders, What do they usually do? they make you believe on them convince you make you trust and make you believe that they can get such profits. Sometimes they even show you some other profits from good expertise to justify themselves. it is actually true that most of them does not really make their money in trading. They usually do different things like the digital marketing, marketing, and other ways of making money online why they be posting proves of profits and when you give them your money to trade what they actually do, they just buy and sell or try to use your money to start a trade or starting the risk with someone else capital. I don’t really believe that traders are really as much as how they advertised themselves as a trader I can see that traders are limited. We only have few expertise, people that knows how to treat very very well. So I can agree with you that Good traders are truly few and you may not even find them because they don’t really advertise themselves people locate them.

I often write about this: if you have too little capital, then most likely you will be forced to take more risks and more often. Even a significant x10 profit will bring little benefit to you. If you have a deposit of $500, then x10 will bring you only $5,000, while you will have a constant risk that you will receive a loss or such a significant drawdown on the account that further trading without additional capitalization will be pointless. Moreover, $5,000 is far from the money that can bring you financial independence. But this is precisely why traders most often come to the stock exchange. So an easy way to take less risk is to increase your trading capital. At the same time, it is not a pity to take loans for trading without any particular reason. And if you take it, then only for part of your capital and for the period when no interest is accrued on the loan (grace period).

To make a trading plan you have to do technical analysis. It is difficult to guarantee in trading for the ups and downs of the market. No matter how well technical analysis is done it is never possible to have a 100% perfect idea of what is going to happen in the future. By focusing on the things that are controllable in this way, they can trade with their greatest efficiency and consequently increase the chances of the trades taken being profitable.

There are so many miseries in trading and the world tend to make it looks like there is a fortune everyone can get from it.
We need to know what we are doing and we don't have to deceive ourselves about it. Trading is very complex but many still think that they can always wake up from bed and start trading and making money without any effort put into it.
We need to know what and how to go about our journey as traders.

Yeah i was depend on their signals because it was paid signals from some expert traders. When i was newbie trader so i was not able to understand what was right and what was wrong signal i am just followed their strategy. Then i realized signals can not be accurate always to make a successful trade, no guarantee in the trading.

That's because there are so many advertisements about trading that only show about profits, now on various social media platforms I almost daily see advertisements about it, which in turn encourages many people to think that trading is an easy way to take advantage. Not only that, now there are also many influencers or content creators who promote trading, we know that influencers and content creators have a big influence on the way people think.

Trading is not as easy as imagined, we may be good at understanding the theory of trading, but in practice it is very difficult. But when someone already has high thoughts and expectations, they will still think that trading is easy, just like they thought at the beginning.

The trading signals are categorized as scammers, and there are usually many victims who don't know anything about crypto trading. So that means there are traders who know they are traders but don't have any knowledge or idea about trading, except for buying and selling, and there are also long-term and short-term traders.

So in the three that I mentioned, the ones that they do that do not become profitable still enter there; I don't include all of them because they can still get profit in some other ways in that category.

Yeah basically, they are categorized as scammers but that is too bad because I once tried to get a real trading signals group started but nobody was interested, even though my signals consistently made a profit and I never asked for any fees/contributions. But I quickly realized the reason why nobody was interested. It was because people avoid trading signal groups like the plague.

Which does bring up the question of why there are so many scammer trading signal groups.... I guess they prey on the gullible few while faking their community numbers? Oh well....

What I understand about trading is that if a person is not a good trader then he will definitely need date signals because it will allow him to trade at the right time and get good profit. But I will say one thing if you are not a professional then you must try to do analysis along with signals and gradually you can become a good quality trader. But since April is the time of Bitcoin halving so it is better to invest some coins during this time because Bitcoin can give good returns after halving.

Often the loss in trading is because our entry timing is right and our timing is not right, which often leads to a cycle of loss and risk in trading. So we should always use the psychology so that we can avoid Risk as much as possible. And always use fundamental analysis.

Loses is inevitable and this is the real thing and this is something that you would really be needing to minimize as much as possible once you do gain up that sufficient experience and learning to it.,

The wrong thing with other people is that they do easily gave up on the time that they would really be facing up such difficulties. Well, i couldn't blame them though since we
dont really like on losing money and if you are someone whose really that have a weak heart then of course you would really be having those thoughts immediately on the time
that you would really be able to experience it for yourself. We cant really tell that traders arent profitable because if 99% of them arent making money
then we wont really be seeing this market being flocked out by traders.  ;D

Most traders are not profitable nowadays cause of the bad mentality,there are into trading to get rich quick without putting in much effort.Thats why most fail and never become successful trader's.

     That's actually true. A lot of people are fooled by those signal groups. It is even being reported here in our country that they will bite those they will victimize in the beginning that will initially release small capital, and then they will first fall into the trap that they will first show the prospect of earning the small capital, and then they will invest again and increase their investment capital.

     Until the victim realizes that the amount of money he has already released from the signal group is large, and when the amount is released, the victim will suddenly not be able to access the signal group's site.

Ya, I still don't understand why they still believe in these groups. Why don't they ask themselves, if the group owner can predict which coin will pump, why doesn't he tell his friends or keep it to himself?  ;D

Because they don't understand the market. To make profit from something first you need to understand how it behave and in trading you need to understand other traders behavior as well. You need to understand how a average trader think about the market and you need to think differently than that. Doing oposite of what everyone is doing is the key to success in trading.

And what if they got lucky or they follow the advice of those influencers to be at the right time? There might be some influencers who are genuine and only wants to help, and not to trap their viewers for their own gains. We can learn on our own but it does not mean that we are now immune to losses.

A lot of traders are still a failure with this type of approach. I'm not saying it's bad and the first one is good, in fact I support it more, though it might also better if we can do them both. Who wouldn't want to be a profitable and professional trader? We all want that of course but it's only not easy and many of us lacks in determination and other good quality traits to be like that.

Yes that's the logic, if they have a way that they think is accurate to actually make good money in trading then why don't they do it themselves? I think we should be able to be rational in responding to this situation which means that there is something they are looking for, I understand that by telling others it is a good and kind act but I can't think that positively in things that involve money in it, and means that maybe they are trying to make more money by hiding behind the idea of "helping others".

Life is a competition and sometimes there are cases where people even put each other down, and this might be the reason why it's more advisable to keep something you've earned for the struggle you've done, such as knowing the right way to trade to get a lot of consistent profits. On the other hand, many rich people are invisible and there are also some people who try to always look in the public eye that they are not actually rich but are someone who is taking advantage of the situation to gain a lot of profit.

The ultimate goal is to gain profits through trading, although basically everyone has to go through this through effort, whether through special learning or very general learning about trading. For now, I see that only investors get more profits, although traders also get quite a bit of profit if what they choose are the best coins in crypto which have the potential to increase quickly after they buy them. Because apart from mental and capital, everyone also has to prepare their self-confidence in the business they are doing and not have to doubt what they are going to buy.

Newbies fall into the trap of these paid signal groups, because at the first time they are showing their some successful trade when newbie's traders are gradually convinced to buy paid signals they think that there are no lose if will follow by paid signals. If paid signal group owners are know that they can predict a coin so they don't need to sell signals and they would own millions of dollars.

Earning $5 - $10 everyday without loosing in a month is a great way of trading safe. Now tell how these big investors made money? By investing bit by bit and that bit made them millionaires over the years..

If we could remove greed and focus on earning this little a day in a month I promise you that 95% of traders won't be at lost. While some people who don't know to trade cam use Dual Investment tool. A very good tool that will help navigate losses as well

For beginners who expect immediate profits from the trades they make, of course they will look for paid signaling groups and hope that they will easily make profits on the trades they make, but it is very unlikely that they will be successful on the trades they make, it could be the group the signals they get can only say in theory but not with the trading experience they do, as you said if they could do it well and correctly of course they would have millions of dollars with the knowledge they have and they shouldn't open a service trade signalers and who wants to pay them can follow the trading strategy they have.

the risk with trading that earn so low profit is just one sudden dump we lost all the money thats why it might seem good earning $10 consistently everyday without a loss but who can guarantee that we won't lose.
remember sudden market dump when ftx was collapsing and UST lost its peg, thats what im talking about its definitely no good for long term.

the thing is current trading approach these days aren't flawed its just general rule of 20% make money and 80% lose because that just how it works in many various sector in real world.
those 20% usually have the edge to go against the rest therefore they are making money.

personally though this is why I really favour to invest rather than to trade, i could be cashing out all of my money at my will, definitely not limited to whether my entry is bad or not, because after all.
if the investment i make is good i'm sure just to wait until the price increase again will be no problem for me.

        -   But this week that ended with Bitcoin rallying, I think a lot of people took profit when they reached 68K$-69K$, because maybe others were aware that there would be a correction in the market, and that's what's happening now. And so far, there is still a correction taking place in the market.

And there are many people who bought in the dip because at any moment the price value of Bitcoin can rise again in the market, and when that happens, there will be many altcoins and meme coins that will be pulled up in the market.

Most Traders are not profitable cause they simply don't learn about the basics of trading before starting it ,Many think it is a quick get rich business so they focused on the money instead of acquiring Trading knowledge and skills think that why the failure sets in at the very beginning for most traders.

On the moment that you do step your foot into trading then it would be always best that you shouldnt really be that making yourself that delusional because on the moment that you would really be dealing up with trading then its something that you would be considering on having that risks management on which we know that this is something that would really be needing up up. There's no solid proof that traders arent that profitable but somewhat if we do talk about the basic principle or concept on how this market works then it would really be that normal that there would really be profitable traders and with the other side on which
there would really be those losers on which it would really be that normal. This is why on the moment or time that you do become a trader then we would reallybe doing our very best to become profitable.

This is why we are really that thriving on making ourselves that being that belongs into that profitable traders but of course everything would really be just that depending on how well you do make yourself that
doing your trades and other correlated things on which it would really be that something that will really be depending into.

Yes, you are right and most traders are losing cause of lack of management and selfishness including greedy just like gambling as you made mentioned, always eager to want more, instead of leaving with the little profit they have, which will make them to keep losing more money, also most of them are not profitable due to lack of knowledge and understanding, which they claim, they know all whereby they only know little or none and instead of them asking their fellow traders for suggestions or advice, they rather fall instead of swallow their pride.

It's not easy to do this job. Even though we are equipped with the knowledge of analyzing using any indicator, sometimes we also experience failure or defeat there, there is no single indicator that is truly accurate in predicting when the price can be determined. . It's best for beginners, if we are not confident in trading, we should leave. There are still many ways to earn money by investing in the long term which is much safer than short term or trading which has very big risks involved.

Every beginner who doesn't learn about trading will of course trade like gambling and not do any analysis before deciding to buy a coin and this will cause them to lose the money they use for trading, if as a beginner they trade because they think they will can easily become rich in trading, of course this is a very wrong understanding of trading, as a beginner of course they have to understand trading well in order to make a profit from trading and this requires a process that is not short and we also have to be patient in going through it. This process is to be able to get good results from the trading we do.

This is facts. Trading is strictly learning before earning..but most people wants to jump the process and focus on the earning alone without learning..I've been trading for few years now & I'm still learning ahah.

To make a profit from trading, it is not necessary to know about trading properly. I know many people who know good about trading yet they lose a lot of their capital many times. Again we see that they come back with a lot of profit but sometimes they go through losses. I have a younger brother who lost 180 dollars in a day trading with only 10 dollars and made 200 dollars with another 10 dollars in that day. But although I have heard a lot about successful businessmen, I have yet to see one it would be wrong, but my younger brother is successful. That is still trading successfully.

But some people do believe that earning is something that will really be that too easy for them to do so.  :D

On the moment that you would really be finding yourself on such situation or on the condition that you would be that experiencing then it would really be that so damn hard for you to deal up with unpredictable space. Trading is never been that easy nor never been that simple on which this one would really be causing up that tons of loses if you dont make yourself that mindful about of your actions.

Dont mind yourself on having that earning first but rather you should be thinking up on how you would really be able to sustain yourself on this volatile space.
Profit would come after on the moment that you have seen yourself that been on sustaining condition or moment.

Profitability will be depending into these following factors:

1. How well you do trade
2. How knowledgeable you are
3. Risk:Reward Ratio
4. Decision making
5. Fund management

Trading might really that sounds too easy to learn or deal with but on the moment that you are on such moment or situation then those impressions would definitely change instantly.
When it comes to loses then its something which cant really be avoided no matter how well you are as a trader then this is something that cant be avoided. Loses is something that been part of trading.
You cant really be always that profitable or being constant or simply making money anytime. This isnt how trading works and dealing up with volatile space then mistakes normally happen.

This is why trading is really that like a tug-of-war in between sellers and buyers on which the one which is better is the one who would really be able to make money.
If there would really be that someone who do make money on the one side then the other side loses which its the most basic concept on how this market works.
This is why you cant really tell yourself that you could be always on the winning side which it cant be possible.

I've seen how hardworking my partner in trading but also stressed due to significant losses. However, not only my husband, but many of our friends, have stated that it is not profitable for them. So I'd have to conclude that trading isn't very profitable for us right now, and we're losing a lot of money.

Business cannot be done with the assumption that it will always be profitable. This is not the case only in the case of trading, but in the case of real businesses, the issues are similar. In real business we see that the trader earns a lot of profit in one season and in another season they don't earn profit. That is, they pass the whole year with the profit that they earn in the season that is good.


In the case of online trading, we can gain money and lose money, then we have to accept these two and then we have to trade. But if the traders are regularly losing money in gambling then the matter is different and then the trading skills of those traders must be questioned. If we apply our skills and analyze the market well, if we can trade, then the result is more likely to be in our favor than against us, but in this case, we must avoid excessive greed. Every day we have to fix specific target and conduct our trading accordingly.

I have developed a software that watches the whole blockchain to identify real winner whales, and delivers their trades to Telegram.

I trusted a lot of signal groups in the past and reality is, they make their money by selling you VIP access and with referral links.

But the point is, there are winners. And they do have very high win rates. Some of them insiders, some of them good traders.

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If we go by the way we are performing our trades, some are making it and earning from it while some are loosing on trades, not until we have discovered the means through which we can engaged on a safe trades in other to make profit, we may only be revolving round about a single spot without having anything to show from it, i also expect the long term traders to be able to have enough patience to wait and earn from their investment when matured, while short trader should also understand the risk involved in day trading or scalping.

I think If we want to earn profit in trading then we have to correct our choosing factor also , one of which is the currency you choose.  Sometimes we invest in a currency after seeing it go up quickly, and then soon it starts to lose.  This loss is caused by our wrong choices.  So we should always be careful in our selection and preferably invest in top 20 currencies.  Investing in top 20 currencies reduces risks and keeps your investment safe.  Investing in selected currencies with good research and accurate market information reduces your chances of loss.  Avoid investing in haste without doing your research and market analysis and make top 20 currencies your first priority.  This way you can get better results in trading and avoid losses. And can earn profit.

Exactly because many people are trading without them making any research on the platform and the areas they were not good that were making them to lose. They have to know the areas that they are not doing well in the trading process. And also they should not greedy in their trading because greediness makes many people to lose or not making any profit from their trading. And many traders do not understand chart so when the market is about to decline they would still be trading and immediately everything that they have gotten would just disappeared.

If you want to profit from trading you have to understand the candle sticks and the market chart 📈 📉 so that you will be full aware and understand what is happening in the market. Don't just rush to the market.

Hmm I think there is a possibility that your colleague is involved in the world of trading by bringing the wrong approach, I can't be sure or guess about what the problem is, but in some cases usually the cause of experiencing significant losses is one of them because they have the wrong mindset such as thinking that trading is an alternative to getting rich in a short time where they put too much hope so that they always make decisions that tend to be too hasty without careful consideration to identify. and maybe they are traders who have not fully controlled themselves such as experiencing excessive emotions when experiencing losses which when someone is trapped in emotions and does not have the ability to control them, they will usually try to do various things based on emotions, and maybe they are also traders who have not fully controlled themselves such as experiencing excessive emotions when experiencing losses where when someone is trapped in emotions and does not have the ability to control them, they will usually try to do various things based on emotions with the aim of recovering the situation where these actions are certainly likely to make a trader end up experiencing more losses to MC, or other factors.

On the other hand I think we should have understood from the beginning that however trading is an activity that has the possibility of risk that can never be avoided completely and this is why we always say and advise to put a lot of caution along with applying risk management firmly, meaning that it is normal if trading does not always give you profits and if you feel that you always experience a lot of losses without any change then yes maybe trading is not the right place for you.

That's right, understanding candle sticks and several other components that can provide us with information to determine price movements will help us to determine the right time to buy or sell cryptocurrency. But the main component that we must have is patience and must not be easily influenced by the situation at the exchange. Sometimes when the price rises high many people want to enter and after entering the price falls very deeply. This is why it is important to keep your patience under control so that you are not easily affected by situations like this.

We can control patience only when we control our emotions.  Emotional decisions in trading lead to losses, so people who cannot control their emotions while trading should use bot trading.  Bot trading is a way to get rid of our emotions because bots are emotionless.  This automated system analyzes market trends and makes decisions without any emotional intervention.  Thus, bot trading helps us to be organized and careful.  It improves our trading strategy and reduces the chances of loss.

Everyone talking about Emotion, if emotion was to be a Man, Traders would have killed him. In as much as I know bots still have high chance of losses and wether or not, you are still in charge of the bots of which if we say emotion there is still possibility of you doing whatever with it. It doesn't improve your strategy in anyway, except the one you programmed yourself to test the market with your edge.

We need to understand difference between Patience and Wasting of time when it comes to Trading, one can be wasting time in the name of patience. In essence develop your skill set, have an edge, build confidence and Mastery leave emotions and patience they are innocent. Accept the losses and move on.

This is the actually truth that is being hidden away from the newbies. Some times I wonder how quick many newbies want to make fast money from trading especially when they do not have sufficient skill to back them up to get to the level of making the kind of profits they have been fantasizing. Greed could always comes in any time especially when we are not conscious enough to take the appropriate risk management that is good for the amount we are using to trade. Different amount for trading has different level of risk to be taken.

Failure to share the risk will seriously jeopardize any of our investments. Again one of the conditions to benefit from investment is to think and analyze the market slowly and calmly. If not the capital will be in danger, let alone profit. But I think the number of your currency selection is very important for risk management.

Those who are successful in trading earn a huge amount of income, so they do not need to create a YouTube channel.  And those who share different strategies or signals on YouTube channel in exchange of money. they are basically not professional traders. Because they do this to increase subscribers to a YouTube channel and a class of traders share signals for extra income. for this, it is better to analyze and trade by yourself, even if you lose for a long time, you can become an expert and then you will get a chance to earn huge amount. and at that time you will be successful in trading.  Success is not an easy thing. to achieve this you have to put in a lot of effort and spend both time and money.

A very normal act and a very normal reaction that you would really be making on which on the moment that you've seen someone do make out some big money on a particular trade then you would be having that kind of impression that you could actually do that. You would be thinking that, if they do able to do it, when why can't I? On the moment that you would really be trying out to mimic someone on which you are already expecting for yourself to be able to get that kind of method then this is where shit things do really happen is on the moment that you would really be making yourself fantasizing that you could be able to do such thing on the exact numbers but on the moment that reality would slap into your face then this where you would really be having that kind of realization that it would really be not something that too easy to deal up with trading, or able to deal up with a volatile market.

Profitability will really be always getting in line on how well you do make up trades and on how well you do make up decisions. It would really be always reflecting out on how good you are plus a little bit mix of luck on which this cant really be denied. There are actually those people who are really that delusional specially if its their first time to see someone who do make out such numbers.
We do love on earning money but sometimes due to lack of knowledge and awareness on things. We would really be tending to copy out into those individuals who are really that
making money but without knowing on what are their bitter sweet experiences on dealing up with crypto space on which i could say that it was never been that easy.

It is also true that the majority of traders in the cryptocurrency field are still not profitable because there are others who only know a little about trading but think that is enough for them to get a large income from trading.

Because they don't think that there are tool indicators that they should somehow use, not all at least know how to use 2 or 3 indicators that they have a basis to use every time they do technical or fundamental analysis, you can't just know when to buy and sell.

This has also received attention from me, if a YouTuber really makes big profits from trading then why do they create a YouTube account about the basics of trading or about trading because it doesn't take long to become very skilled as a trader!  returning to the discussion about what actually produces results for youtubers, it is advertising, so the goal of a youtuber trader is only to get money from other sources.

Choosing the top is also no guarantee because market movements are very strange now. If we are able to read the market with all the supporting items then the problem will be solved.

Most of us lose because we often chase cheap prices with a limited budget and we only circulate those funds with the hope in our hearts that if I sell at the current price, even though I bought it a bit high, I will quickly return to my initial capital. This is where it goes wrong. if it rises, okay, if it takes a long time, wait until 4 days before pumping it back up.

There is always reasons to this and it mainly revolves around,
Trying to get that capital, either from used having to subscribe to your signal channel or your YouTube channel so you make money from the traffics it generate with YouTube or you just get them to invest with you to trade on their behalf. It’s how it goes for most of them, only a handful of these guys that come on YouTube, claiming to be all professional and profitable are really profitable. The rest just use it for another means to get some money to trade with.

In all that, it doesn’t mean they don’t have ideas, it’s what you get at least, to learn their strategy and how they trade, apply it to see if it works and then, you can go with it.

So we are talking about the time to become a professional trader. If we want to become a professional trader quickly then we also have to increase the hours to practice directly on the exchange. We also need a lot of money to do that. Meanwhile, content creators can sometimes collaborate with several parties to get additional capital that they can use to practice.

That's called FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) and it is one of the worst things a trader can do. Undoubtedly, it can be profitable sometimes but that is extremely rare because a coin or a token will barely go any higher if you are entering when it is already at the peak. The most common reason behind this is a lack of research and understanding of the market. Someone who makes their investments after proper research won't be a victim of this.

This is something mostly done by newbie traders because they are new in the market, and the only thing they understand is that they need to buy low and sell high, and when they see a coin or a token going straight up, they think that it is still going to go up more and they make an entry without realizing that it has been going up for quite some time and it has already reached its peak and won't be going higher anymore.

There is a saying that little knowledge is terrible. There are three levels of education. At the first level a person thinks that he knows a lot and as a result he becomes arrogant. And we know pride is the root of downfall. The same is the case with trading if someone thinks that we know a lot about trading and we will definitely return from here with profit then our psychology will lead us wrong path. For that falling in trading definitely will come. But if we gain some it is purely a matter of luck.

Some influencers promote various crypto projects on their YouTube channels. I know they do it for money. We should not always follow them. Because maybe in real life they themselves are not successful in trading.

The number of traders who have earned good profit by trading is really very less. I agree with the OP on this. Because there is no such trader among my acquaintances.

Having many subscribers of their own, he knows that they will follow his videos be it logical or illogical does not matter. You can never get ahead in life by imitation and you will never succeed in trading if you do that. Yes few people are successful in trading. Those who have patience, knowledge, accurate analysis, succeed. if your level of perfection increases, you will start trading regularly and become successful. Anyone can teach you the basics but if you want to succeed you have to use your intelligence.

even following other people's better trades doesn't necessarily make them profitable. in the short term, it might be profitable. but in the long term, I think there will still be more losses.
those who share techniques or even trading signals will not continue to profit. they also experience losses and I don't think any trader can escape from that. what makes it possible is a smart trader who minimizes his losses.

You just made me remember one coin a popular influencer from west Africa launched last month, it was a meme coin name $DAVIDO (https://www.dextools.io/app/en/solana/pair-explorer/48XCxXxuVjEefX8K1qAMD2yELYUkXihYQegtSKXf4JXG?t=1717766916519) and unfortunately, the guy rugged and sell half of his bag and withdraw out about $400k with few tokens left, the token is now worthless and they seems to have even abandoned it. A coin that started with hype because of the celebrity influence, this is why you should never trust anyone.

There was this particular trader that bought the coin and obviously, he bought at the top thinking the coin was coin to do well despite that the launcher rugged them. He was shilling and advising his followers to buy, giving all sort of charts just so he could sell too but the did was done. After some days, he came online and was abusing the celebrity and advising his followers to sell at loss, this is after he has sold and the coin has dump another 33%. This is why it's not good to follow some traders recommendations.

For those who are really that lazy enough on learning trading on their own, then most likely they would really be following those traders who do offer following trades or subscriptions because they are really that lazy on learning trading and this is why they do really end up with this kind of option.For those people who do have that serious approach towards trading then they wouldnt really be that going into this path but rather they would really be going into their own path and would really be learning trades on their own. It isnt really that bad to follow someone but it would really be that a good initiative that you should really make your own self study too at the moment that you would really be following someone on trading and with this, at the moment that they would be gone, then you could really be able to make yourself that survive since you do already know on how to trade.

Trading doesnt really give out that kind of assurance when it comes on making profits but you wont really be able to know until you would be able to test it out.
It would really be always best that you should really be that testing out if there would really be opportunities on earning or making money.
You wont be able to gain money if you wont take risks.

Usually people who are successful as traders will not share their knowledge for free on social media, of course they will open members or classes on the channel they created, at least they will get income from their members after their long struggle to learn to become a trader. Indeed, it is best if we learn autodidactically if we are successful, of course the results we obtain will be very satisfying. They need to sacrifice a lot of time and money to become an expert trader.

It is true that not everyone can get profit from trading. Most traders lose but there are many reasons for this. People who can't analyze or don't have a good idea about trading can't succeed in trading. Most of the traders today only trade but fail to take proper decisions by analyzing their judgments and their ignorance is to blame. Another eternal truth is that 100 people can never succeed in trading if 100 people trade. Some will gain from the trade and some will lose. When a person decides to start trading he must start trading with a good idea about trading. But traders can fail despite knowing everything well. Different types of signals are exchanged by means of various channels which are difficult for ordinary traders. Moreover, whales always try to keep the market under their control, they try to manipulate the market in various ways. Due to various reasons, most of the time the common traders are losing in trading.

Generally, not all traders can make a profit, but losses always follow them. without strong analysis and rest, a trader will experience large losses. Not only that, they must have strong fundamentals regarding the risks they face in order to make a profit from a coin that is traded, only a few are successful in making profits from large amounts, so many traders who give up because losses always come their way.

What usually happens is that not all traders are professionals in the field of trading, only some of the large number can be profitable in trading. So from here we can learn that becoming a professional trader is not easy, you still have to sacrifice money while learning to trade until you become a professional and can make a profit every time you trade.

Cause most are into trading to get rich quick they don't care have the knowledge of trading before diving into it .Trading takes a lot of time for one to become a professional .one need to learn a lot ,Practice well and advisedly start with a small account before moving to a larger one .This is one of the most simplest way to become a professional and profitable trader.

There so many truths that are not being told to many people that has been aspiring to become a trader.
There are so many traders that have been making consistent losses in the market but they are not ready to tell the world or there fans that they just make loses. We need to be wise and tlkearn how to trade thoroughly so we don't end up losing money anyhow after we might have made huge profits from the market. We need learn and not rush to make money immediately.