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Article: https://cointelegraph.com/news/judge-orders-craig-wright-pay-over-1-million-accepts-new-evidence-satoshi-identity
Author: ANA PAULA PEREIRA


Why is this person trying so hard to prove that he's Satoshi Nakamoto? If he was, he could simply login to this forum and make a post and clear it out.
What an idiot I would say. What's your thought on this?

He is Faketoshi. I think that is also a good name that he will finally accept. What people will use to know that he is Satoshi is when he sign a message from one of the oldest addresses that were used to receive 50 BTC block reward during the earliest days of bitcoin. Faketoshi has not been able to do that but saying he lost the private keys. He is a liar.

I can assume that if he proves this, then he will own the copyright to this product and will be able to receive large royalties for the rest of his life and live very rich. Or maybe this desire is caused by the wrong prescription of pills from the doctor, and he need another doctor.

There are two ways he could prove that he's Satoshi; sign a message from Satoshi's wallet or post a message from Satoshi's account on the forum.

IMO, I think Craig Wright is hungry and just looking for money. Satoshi will never sue the Bitcoin developers and other companies for the violation of the copyright to Bitcoin's white paper because Bitcoin is a community driven project. What's the point in revealing his identity when he has done so much to conceal it?

He is an idiot who can not prove himself as Satoshi Nakamoto.

Signing a message from a Bitcoin genesis address.
Signing a message from PGP key of Satoshi Nakamoto.
Coding style must be similar to style of Satoshi Nakamoto.

How many wrongs make a Wright? (https://blog.lopp.net/how-many-wrongs-make-a-wright/)
Craig Wright's copyrights claim (https://blog.lopp.net/craig-wrights-copyright-claim/)
Copy of e-file correspondence (https://www.lopp.net/pdf/Craig%20Wright%20Bitcoin%20Whitepaper%20Copyright%20Claim.pdf?ref=blog.lopp.net).

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

We are not sure why he is doing this. Perhaps he wants to gain attention from the public? Despite pretending for years and having no evidence that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, he still persists. There are many ways for him to prove himself, yet even with one piece of evidence, he has not done so. It is unclear why he continues to act this way.

What else do you expect from that kind of person? It is obvious that he is chasing fame and popularity; he thought that maybe many stupid people would believe him. Sorry for the term used, but that's how he thinks about people.

But you are right in what you said in the end, that if he really is Satoshi Nakamoto, he must have had an account here since at least 2011. That's why he can't show any evidence in that regard. Now, because of his stupidity, he ended up paying him $1 million.Those are the consequences of his lies that are told on the social media platform.

Even if he tries that hard to proved that he is Satoshi, Bitcoin enthusiast are not going to believed him, simply as that. We are already tired of him and others who claim to be the legendary man and so let history judge him.

He obviously wants to get attention ever since, but that is not going to work. The only thing that works for him is that he has money and so he might hire someone to promote hi in social media or even in this community, but it's not going to work.

His gamble with BSV has failed and he needs something to revamp the cryptocurrency, which he says is the original Bitcoin blockchain. He also knows that his fakeology will not hold long when the investigation is completed or the dispute is resolved. In the meantime, he would gain some advantage by getting free publicity on media portals even in mainstream media. BTW, no one cares what is happening with him, the more we discuss him the more he would be able to get free publicity. Ignoring him is the best solution for him to die down from the limelight.

This carbon based lifeform^{I deliberately don't call it human so as not to offend the majority of humanity} with name tag CSW has clearly some agenda and wastes money, mood and time of other people. I would prefer not to speak about it as it doesn't deserve our attention at all. It's like the old truth in forums or mailing lists: don't feed the trolls and they might starve to silence.
Unfortunately doesn't work always but seems to help a lot...

i thought Satoshi account on the forum has been banned, I may have read in one of the topics on this forum about that.


i agree with you. satoshi said he leave the project behind and hand it over to someone else.
i don't think real satoshi want some credit from his own creation

Stop giving him attention, he turns attention into a money maker.

For Craig Wright, it's been a long time coming, he is doing all he can to make the world know that he is Nakamoto but we all know that the real Nakamoto don't want to be visible to the public, it's not that hard to understand but this crazy Craig guy still pushing  himself hard to get something out of this, for what?

What other evidence that's so simple as logging into your Bitcointalk account to prove that you are really who you said you are? How about signing trsmactions for his wallet? Everything he was asked to provide to increase his chance of proving that he is indeed Satoshi makes me mad, these two evidence are more than enough to prove himself.  

Someone like Craig will always think wrongly that he can use money and deception to achieve what is not meant for him and use that same to convince the entire world to believe in his fake reasons under baseless facts, what he know was only the beginning of the war, he never have an idea of the finishing end, he thinks if he loses, he has gained the global recognition he has always target in making himself famous, he can never proof himself to be Satoshi no matter what.

Unfortunately, the article only says that he'll have to pay if he loses the trial, and this is just legal costs, not a fine or anything like that.
He can't log in to this forum. AFAIK, nobody can log in as satoshi any more (but unfortunately I can't find the info of what made me think so, so perhaps I'm wrong). But if he was Satoshi, he could find ways of proving it. It's been going on for many years now, and we still haven't seen a single piece of strong evidence. I think he's doing this as a publicity stunt, just to get attention. Then attention, of course, is transformed into money because he can capitalize on it.

Exactly because i really don’t think that satoshi is going around saying that he is the creator of bitcoin and i don’t think he has any plans on doing so in the future i mean bitcoin’s popularity is just increasing more and more each year and yet satoshi, the real one, still decides to be on the hiding he could easily prove himself to be the real satoshi but he doesn’t so it might be clear that if satoshi is still out there he definitely is not interested to be known

Sometimes I feel him an attention seeker, and the more they get it, the more they lie and search for any convincing justification.
He is not the first person to claim that he is Satoshi, and he will not be the last to claim that, even though we all know that he is not Satoshi.

This all makes no sense! Are you Satoshi? prove that you are really him! as? sign a message with the address that we know is Satoshi's, or resurrect Satoshi's profile on this forum! but all this would not make any sense, Satoshi made a choice to remain anonymous and it must be respected, if he ever comes back we will all be happy to embrace him again. Then I remember an AMA of Theymos where he was asked if he had ever had contact with him, and he said yes! and he also added that in his opinion Satoshi was a very intelligent but shy programmer, and Craig Wright seems anything but intelligent and shy to me

Well deserved, Craig Wright is a big scammer. He's deceiving everyone to buy his BSV crap coin. Craig Wright is completely delusional because he is not Satoshi, he can't prove it but he still insists on his lies to be original Satoshi Nakamoto.
Uneducated people might fall for it but educated people not. Of course, we should take action against Craig Wright because uneducated people are very vulnerable to fall for his scam and Craig Wright is actively exploiting it.

A big punishment for Craig Wrigt is due.

I agree with what you say. In my opinion, if indeed he said that he lost his key because this was more than 10 years, I thought it was a lie if the one who said it was from Satoshi. It means that it becomes normal if it is someone else who does not understand the value of Bitcoin but someone who claims to be Satoshi and says he loses the key? Come on, why can't you lie better? Or he can prove himself by accessing the Satoshi account in this forum. Of course he can recover the account if he is indeed a real Satoshi.

Maybe because he is a pathological liar who is also encouraged by the fact that he has found rich sponsors who generously finance his "endeavors", and they obviously have no idea that he has no chance of proving that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.


Logging into the forum by itself would not prove anything even if Satoshi's account had not been banned for security reasons, and not even signing one of the first addresses used by Satoshi. The thing is that anyone can claim to be someone else if they come into possession of private keys or forum login data.

For me the matter is very clear if we just consider the way Satoshi has communicated on this forum publicly and privately with his associates - compared to how CW Faketoshi communicates and behaves. In any case, they are two different people and I have no doubts about that.

This has a really simple answer to be honest.  Most people don't take the time to look into WHY this grift is being attempted.  THAT PERSON is trying to convince people they are satoshi so that he can then convince people to support a reorg of the blockchain in order to give him access to satoshi's coins on the BSV chain.  He thinks if he can accomplish this then he can sue Bitcoin developers to do the same on the Bitcoin network unlocking billions of dollars for his own use.  That is the only reason he's trying to do this.  If there were no coins said to be owned by satoshi, you would have never heard of this man.

I think the slammed $1m fine is a slap on the wrist. A stiffer fine should've sufficed. He's trying too hard to prove an identity he doesn't have and forgot the basic thing – just move one of the wallets believed to be owned by the maverick Satoshi Nakamoto, even if he can't or doesn't want to log in to this forum and everyone will throw out every doubt. CW is simply an unbelievable nitwit.

It's complicated story, but it's mostly because of his ego, and because he is trying to get more money obviously.
He was lucky enough to be early in bitcoin, but this was not enough for him so he decided to recreate himself from farmer to scammer  :P

You are right, why would he do this while there are easy ways to prove if you are Satoshi or not? By the way, the credentials are saved somewhere on the server of BTT, and can't the admins see those credentials? and can sell them to this Craig so he can prove he is the Satoshi. Just idealizing, not trying to accuse admins here. I know if they cared about money, then they would have earned thousands of dollars until now from these signature campaigns.

Maybe he is really some idiot or lunatic who is obsessed with Satoshi. Ok, even for the moment we imagine he is the satoshi, then what? What can he do or achieve by proving he is Satoshi? Can he claim any funds? Can he move those funds that are in the holdings of Satoshi? To be honest, I think Satoshi is dead, but the possibility of him being alive is also there but in my view I think he is dead.

Technically there's two categories of people that can gain access to satoshi's account:

• Satoshi
• anyone else with admin privileges.

But since Craig Wright is neither but I just wanted to point it out.


Imo, it started as clout chasing but he's now too deep in it with personal reputation now at stake that he can't just give in now. That's why he's hrll bent about it even though he doesn't proof.

That's because he's a fraud. He's trying desperately to be what he's not. Satoshi, whoever he/she/they are won't go through the stress of staying anonymous only to try everything possible to be known as the creator of Bitcoin.
He has brought a lot of different things to prove that he's Satoshi and neither of them has been convincing enough, it's crystal clear that he's a fraud.

Craig Wright is just trying so hard to become what he's not. There are loads of ways to validate that he is Satoshi even without authorities dragging him or appearing before any panel to prove it.

There are wallets that he can initiate transactions from, there are also accounts that have history of satoshi related interactions, like the once he sent to other programmers as a test and stuff.

If these accounts gets activated by Craig Wright then it's proof enough.

yes, i read some post that literaly said "no body can login satoshi account" and i forgot where is it.
i think theymos said that but iam not sure

He's born to be like that. This case is never going anywhere and let's say that he's able to win over the court with that case. Is it over for him? maybe the satisfaction of winning is there but not going to change the fact that he's not the real satoshi. The real Satoshi isn't like that and won't even bother to tell who he/she is in public. A fraud guy trying so hard knowing that he's not the real satoshi, maybe he's up to something and that's why he's pursuing this case.

I say he's got what's going for him lol. The guy's been at it for years now trying to prove that he's Satoshi Nakamoto when even the guys who took after the main man's work could prove he's not him. Plus from the get-go his statements don't add up to anything conclusive as well, it's as if every single time he makes an attempt to prove himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto he only ends up making himself look like a complete buffoon to the whole public, this one's no exception either.



Cause he thinks he can leverage being known as the creator of bitcoin for his personal gain, just like the countless others who made an attempt to prove that they are him (pun intended). Craig's been known by many as a fraud in this industry, even whistleblowers like Edward Snowden thinks so too. So yeah, aside from the insurmountable amount of fame and acclaim that he may get from being proven to be Satoshi Nakamoto, he also wants the moolah that will inadvertently come with it.

Also at this point I feel like he's fallen victim to his own sunk cost fallacy. He's in too deep into the fight to prove that he's Satoshi that he thinks there's no other way to do this but forward, when he can just quit and save face and we wouldn't even notice.

$1m is too small, he should fine more. Lol. Sigh, this person is not yet done for what he wants that he will never get, ever.
If i'm one of those who support him (which i will never be), i should drop it already lol. It's been a very long time already yet he didn't prove anything, because obviously he is fake.

I am thinking now that he has mental problems and illusion that he is indeed Satoshi.
Because that is true, if he is Satoshi, he can easily access this forum using Satohi's credentials but to no avail.
I don't know his end game here. But definitely, he is seen as idiot/crazy whatever you call it.
I just hope he has the money to pay the fine. Because if his claims are true, then such money is just a penny for him.

It's obvious that this person is lying; I can't stop reading what he says on various article platforms. And it looks like the right time has come for him to pretend to be Nakamoto on social media platforms.

I also agree with what you said that even though he has an account on this forum, that is still not enough to say that he is Nakamoto because anyone can still put Nakamoto's name on this forum even on the first day. of starting this forum.

Its not a fine, its to cover costs "in case" he loses the trial in February.


I would like to think that this is a security measure on behalf of the court because
they see this case as having high odds of going against CSW.

I have said it before but I think he will be caught out for the fake he is at some stage
sooner or later and his house of cards will continue to crumble following on from the hodlonaut

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/legal/hodlonaut-wins-defamation-case-against-craig-wright

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413844.0

I am sure that so many members of this forum are wondering the same thing as to Craig Wright...who for me is always Wrong...on why he is still insisting to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto when in fact he could not present any credible evidence to make his assertions stand in the court and in people's mind. Now, I think, the answer is that there is something with this man mentally...maybe he is constructing a world of his own and he wants us to also be a part of that make-believe world he is building. Though since am not a doctor, this is just my own very humble opinion.

It's amazing to me that Wright can tell all these lies over many years and bring on these frivolous lawsuits and not end up in jail. Seems like there should be some sort of law against repeatedly starting frivolous lawsuits and forging documents and all that stuff.


Wright is the biggest disgrace and joke of the bitcoin world. It's just sad that he's allowed to keep doing this stuff.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/24/IteT3.png

That is the screenshot of the first paragraph on the articles provided by OP (https://cointelegraph.com/news/judge-orders-craig-wright-pay-over-1-million-accepts-new-evidence-satoshi-identity). This phrase is ridiculous 'The legal battle over Satoshi Nakamoto’s identity and Bitcoin rights'. Why would someone battling over to be recognized as Satoshi, they will get more problem than profit, and the real Satoshi knows that, that's why they choose to become anonymous, and the right for Bitcoin, what will they get by getting right to Bitcoin, it's a decentralized anyway.

That's the only way to prove himself but I think everyone knows already that he's the fake one and that a lot of his stories are just not matching up with any that a lot of us knows and he would've mentioned the other person's identity that helped with the building of the forum with. Another thing about Craig is probably that he already knows that it's all a joke and nothing more than just a deception, he just loves the spotlight and our attention too much that he'll do anything to keep that spotlight trained at him and our attention at him, that's what I think how his mind works in all of this issue.

There are too many reasons which could explain why he is doing this, reasons that range from simply wanting the spotlight to somehow this legal maneuver allowing him to get to the coins of Satoshi and make him one of the richest persons alive.

But whatever are his reasons, the case for him being Satoshi is pretty much closed for anyone that has took the time to read about the whole thing, but since the courts seems to be too busy to do that then he thinks he can get away with it by trying to force the legal system to recognize him as Satoshi.

I agree. I bet profit from deceiving people into buying BSV while believing BSV is true Bitcoin or that he's Satoshi far exceed $1M.


I recall one of his major supporter already do such thing.

$1M is easy fine for CSW and it should be more to stop this man from his madness.

He can easily pay that. I think that all of this distraction that he has been doing is all about for giving himself a favor to confuse people what really is the real bitcoin for which he's got as BSV.

Well, Coinbase is doing the right thing about his coin.

BREAKING! Coinbase To Delist Bitcoin SV (BSV) On January 9, 2024 (https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/6584d62cc23da868654d076d/)

After years of supporting that scammer, do you think we should applaud them for that move? They don't do it for some noble reason, but because obviously no one trades with that shitcoin anymore. All those CEX who listed that fork coin just showed that they are no better than whoever is behind it, and that's the whole truth.

Good to see that Coinbase finally taking a Stand and delisting this Faketoshi's Shitcoin from their exchanges.. this coinbase delisting and $1 million court fine will teach him a good lesson. but as you said that is a small amount for this scammer, he can pay off this easily considering all the money he've made from BSV.


whatever Coinbase's intention is behind that delisting. I think that's a good move for Everyone who knows what is real bitcoin. it might be helpful for new users too to recognize what is the real Bitcoin. Craig Wright have been deceiving people for so many years.  if More CEX start to delist his coin. he'll loose all the supporters slowly.

Lucius, those idiots did not support Craig Wright when they allowed his shitcoin to be traded, they were simply riding a profit potential opportunity, because Craig Wright gave them free marketing with all the controversy surrounding his shitcoin and his claims of being Satoshi Nakamoto.

They also knew that his supporters will buy into the whole hype scenario and they will profit by supporting it. They entered Bitcoin to make a profit and they keep with that business model when they make decisions like that.  :P

There has always been more than one cases brought by these insane persons claiming to be Satoshi. I don't think there should much feud if one claims to be someone they aren't without proof. It just means they are lying.
Craige should have the means to pay off the fine because I believe he has the backings of some persons during his schemes.

News as this does much to separate the negative reviews brought about by fake crypto currency schemes just to erode or tarnish the reputation of the good and original idea of which BTC upholds.

Everyone can interpret it in their own way, so even though I agree that the first priority for all of them is profit, all those who listed that coin gave CW Faketoshi direct support. Let's imagine what would happen if none of the top 10 CEX listed that coin?

I remember when @hodlonaut asked for the support of various CEXs in his fight against Faketoshi, but no one cared, except for one CEO who wanted to give him some tokens instead of BTC and thus promote his CEX.

Yeah, I know that it's just for business purposes and they have to do the right thing. But it's not too late for them to do it so it's less beneficial for this fraud when it becomes delisted to Coinbase.

Not sure if that's going to teach him his lesson but this is just going to be the start of his misery if the other centralized exchanges will follow the same path as what Coinbase will.

That will have a huge impact on him if all of them will come together and will have the same decision of delisting BSV.

He won't because he can't. Craig Wright is a fake satoshi but he will continue to claim that he is the real one because he probably is planning to promote something once he gain the trust of the people. Imagine if people would believe that he is satoshi, he can just be more than Elon Musk who could influence the crypto space by pumping a certain or coin or promote his own, that's a billion dollars easy money and it will erase all the expense he paid including this $1M that was reported.

I think the whole thing is ridiculous. And now apparently the same folks who split w/ BSV a portion of or that whole team created Ordinals? I'm not so sure I have been meaning to look more into that honestly. There is so much to this case that i've just stopped checking in on it. I remember when he had to report to WPB courthouse and was requesting to show up virtually instead of coming from like Australia or whereever the heck he is from lol

It’s really funny though. Like. You know who you are and the someone is coming to tell you. “You ain’t this person” and you see the need to prove it even without anything at stake. Not like your getting to lose a suite at some 7star hotel or not been given the seat you deserve at some event.

I think what he’s been out for is the recognition/fame and his getting it, filling in for the vacuum Satoshi Nakamoto left which has been some of the backbone to the ever thriving Bitcoin.
Well, there are those who’ve hit the strength and funds to take up the case with him but, all I can do now is pay less attention to his continued blabbing like a babe. He’s just what I know him to be and that’s some attention seeking piece of nothing.

Ahh, I wasn't active much in the Bitcoin section, seems like the creepy (  Craig Wright ) person is having some developments in his fictional claim and more likely this time he's facing another expected plenty.

Why this person doesn't just delete himself (from the internet ) haha that can be the only solution for him to repair the personality damage. TBH no one cares about him at least now. I remember I knew nothing about him and his claims, but a post based on the Reddit on this section putted some light for me to study what happened and what he did a few months back.

Some will say that it's never too late to do the right thing, but I'm not one of those people who can be bought with cheap tricks - if you've been consciously working against Bitcoin for years, then regardless of today's moves, you're still a villain. It's been several years since @fillippone opened a topic about that CEX, so even though the reasons were different, we can still agree that Coinbase the most anti-Bitcoin organisation. Make #DeleteCoinbase great again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253616.0)

This clown guy is trying so hard to be something he is not.
I'm not sure about the authenticity of this but I think there is a wallet they said Satoshi has that has bitcoin worth a million in it, why didn't Craig prove that to the court and sign a message from the private key or the court is too daft to aske for such evidence or they are enjoying his entertainment.

One thing is clear about this guy, he is trying to live a legacy he didn't build and this could be because he thinks Satoshi will not come public to deny that or trying to claim he is the rightful owner of bitcoin. If Craig is really the original developer of bitcoin, no way he is going to come public and open to people because there are people at the top that want to really have Satoshi under their custody and even the US has never for once invite Craig since he started this madness.

Craig is just attention seeking clown.

But Craig Wright is not Satoshi and he won't be able to recover Satoshi's Bitcointalk account.
He will keep making false claims, of course.

He will remain a scammer.

Someone would want to claim something he is not, at his own expense. That's not being stupid. I find it strange that someone would try to make himself seem so much more important than he actually is, even if it means spending a lot of money to convince people that he is the real Satoshi even though he knows they won't accept or believe it if it is true, if he also can't sign a message with a Satoshi wallet so that everyone can see that he is the real Satoshi.

He won't be done anytime soon, I'm sure that he's got more up his sleeves when it comes to the proof that he's the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Totally agree with you that the fine should be higher but I think that there's other ways to make sure that he suffers even more like having a limited access to the Internet in terms of hours per day if not total restricted access to the Internet, that man's going to be experiencing withdrawal because he's not getting enough time online or you know, house arrest if not jail time. I feel bad for those that still on his side though, they might know it already that he's lying but their pride and dignity is at stake so they still continue to support him, I guess they should be careful when people like this pops up in their lives again.