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I believe we all, or most of us are back from the new year celebration already  ;D, my greetings to everyone of you and pray this year brings us the best of luck as gamblers.

Now, I have a simple question, first, let me say that I am an advocate of gambling for fun, and I personally believe that gambling for fun does not necessarily means you should completely ignore the aspect of money making through gambling, it just simply means that we should not prioritize making money off gambling over doing it for fun, and this is because, some gamblers out of prioritizing gambling for money over over gambling as a means of having fun, end up gambling irresponsibly which leads to alot of financial issues and even gambling disorders.

So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?

Please let's discuss, and remember, keep it as constructive as possible and cast your vote on the pool as well.

Definitely not. I can maybe tolerate an entry fee to access the different games, I will pay to join a football prediction game, if that allows me play all season. But if I had to pay each time I play with no chance of winning, I would decline that offer.

There are free ways to have fun.

- Jay -

Exactly.! Why would really be needing to pay up something just to have some fun if you could actually be able to attain those things for free? Even if we do say that the amount involved or
fee wont really be that too big. It wont really be that called gambling in the first place if it doesnt really get involved on having that betting. Peoples interest would really be that low or
nearly to be zero considering that earning profits or winnings couldnt really be just that possible. So it would really be that your own personal choice if ever you do agree with this kind of stuff.
We do know that gambling industry becomes so big just because people do really love to deal up with things on which it could really be potentially be able to
make money. Interest would be gone if you cant really be able to do so.

Bro, honestly, I think gambling is more interesting because of the fun and also the opportunity to win some money, which can both be archivable. Most people are gamblers today because they believe more in winning money than having fun, while only a few gamblers are gambling for fun. In my honest opinion, gambling without winning some people will make no sense and will not be of interest to many people if it was only developed for having fun without adding the money-winning feature.

Your poll has just two options, and it's quite complicated for me to pick any option yet because I am actually thinking of an option that you did not add to your poll. If gambling were built in such a way that gamblers would only gamble for fun, I would definitely gamble, but I would be more conscious of how much I will be spending to gamble. You know what that means.

I got into gambling through my friends, and it was more on the notion of making some cash as a side hustle. Although there was still the feeling of having fun, my friends actually made me feel it was just some kind of simple thing where you stake and win some money easily, but it was not. So, maybe if there was no means of winning money from gambling, I may not have known gambling in the first place because my friends would not have introduced me to it.

Currently, I don't put serious time into gambling as before and I don't care much about losses and wining because of work and other stuffs that is taking my time.

Of course why not. Since it will be for entertainment I will pay to have that fun. I could remember going to the amusement park with my uncle and his family.the games there are to be paid for before you c an have access to play them. I will see it like a service business where you pay and play any game of your choice. But let the truth be told I wouldn't do that often. I will only do it once in a while unlike now that you can win or loss. This is what makes it more interesting due to the thrill. But I don't think that we will have more gamblers like we have today because at first most gamblers gamble for profit before they will realize the main purpose of gambling that is should be for fun.

There has been a lot of talk about the reality of gamblers “gambling for fun”. I think most people are in denial about the subject. I don’t think anyone would be interested in gambling if there wasn’t nothing at stake. The thrill of winning is what excites gamblers and makes the gambling casinos one of the biggest markets in the world. I doubt people would be interested if there was no reward in gambling. Little wonder why many people do not like to play demo game.

I can't stand it if there is absolutely no chance of getting the money from the winnings I want even though my gambling goal is to have fun.
This is the honest answer behind the gambling that I play.

If in the 10 games I play, I hope there will be at least a win, not all of them will be in a losing situation, aka not making any money at all.
If the situation at the casino I play at holds true, I will switch to playing sports games.
Sports betting is my favorite bet. Other games are just to test luck.

 Nah, I don't think so. Because if I wanted to do something that's solely for fun, I'd have decided to either watch the game or probably invest my time in reading a book of finding more money, because if you look at it, I'm spending cash to stake those games and since I know I won't be able to get something tangible in return, why waste the funds?
 Some will argue that they indulge in gambling just for fun or to wile away the time and if you check, these are individuals who have set aside a specific amount to play and won't beat themselves up if they don't win, but still we all have it at the back of our minds to win.

Depending on the games,  if it is house games that I drive real entertainment from as I am involved in the games then I will likely continue to gamble even when I record losses since I drive fun from them but although I still have more motivations if I win more than I lose.

But when it comes to games like football,  if I lose consistently I can decide to stop betting for a while since I will still enjoy watching the match regardless if whether I bet on them or not,  the thing is that,  there is a tin line between enjoying the games and losing or taking risk by betting on them.

Let me take you, for instance Op, There's a place where I normally go to play the snooker game with some of my friends and with others within the environment, before you will join the game one of the rules is that you have to pay to partake in the game while in the end we make no money from it but rather we played for fun. Therefore, in as much as there will be fun in that game then I will continue to gamble with my money, but in a situation where there is no chance of making money and as well no fun in it then why would I spend my money?

I still cannot understand.

Most gambling always wins you some money, no matter how small is the money it still is. I think everyone have some logic, If you not win something for what purpose we are doing a gamble ? Most of answer for your question is gonna to be a same.

The answer is no, we are not doing any gamble if we don't win something.

Thank you OP for making this statement and question for me this is quite interesting, ;D  and I  think that if indeed casinos do not make money as the main object in winning then I will answer it simply that there will be few people interested in gambling, because lately gambling especially online-based such as slot machines is very common, almost most adults know this type of gambling and are involved in it so the level of addiction is increasing every year.

One thing I know and this seems to be a true fact is that it is not uncommon for me to find that lately many people come with the intention of earning by ignoring the possible risks involved in gambling. The logic is that the winnings in gambling are money (in random amounts) and while on the other hand doesn't everyone want money? Of course, and I think this could also be one of the big reasons why more and more people are coming to get involved. So in essence with the question you asked I think if it wasn't money as the main form of winnings or for example just regular winnings without getting anything then I don't think anyone would go to the extent of going overboard and maybe they would just come for the fun of it, gamblers wouldn't be as likely to get involved if there was no chance of doubling up.

My answer is No, I will not spend money just to gamble with no expected money in return. Even though sometimes I always lose in gambling, at least there I somehow know that there is a chance to win, unlike your question that we pay an entry fee to play but the hope of winning is immediately dashed because there's really no chance. Let's be honest, all gamblers who play in casino houses carry with them the hope that they will win no matter how much they spend, especially now that our world revolves in money. so it is very impossible if there are people who enjoy gambling if there is no chance to win. It's like you're just wasting money and time for nothing.

It is a waste of money if you're aware that you have no chance of winning. I know that it is gambling but even in the toughest games, you can still have that little chance of winning.

Are there games that are like this? It is just a situational matter but I don't think that many are going to spend money when we're totally aware that you have zero chance of winning.

Maybe for the experience, there will be who wants to try it out and are good losing a bit of their hard earned money.

Did chose on the pole and definitely other members too.
Hell no, why would I waste my money doing something that has no chance of bringing me money back in return?
   
Those are the primary words that i do have in mind is on why would the hell i would be spending money on betting on sports games if i do know that you cant get something back from it?
Also, it wont really be called betting or gambling in the first place because you arent really that betting literally or simply its not a gamble after all. You are just basically paying
up for the thing that you are watching which i dont see for people to get interested to it.

Its true that there are other things on which we can enjoy without really needing to pay up something on which it would really be just that right
that people would really be sticking into that rather than on spending something which they could eventually get it for free.

If you can not win back some money, then it is not gambling but just for fun and very few people will play it. Those who will play such are those who are really playing for the fun of it but it is called betting because you are staking to win something and not just the fun. Many gamblers bet to win and not for fun. Therefore, if there is a game that I have to pay to play without means that I should get rewarded if I win the game then I won't be playing.

Everyone's views on this topic will always vary and in my opinion the available pool will not be very useful.  anyway, in my view, the money we risk when gambling, whether playing slots or betting on sports, is to make the gambling activity we do more interesting, for me personally gambling is both ^{(the fastest way to make money and a good way for entertainment)}, if someone says he doesn't gamble for money but purely for entertainment, rest assured he's lying, or he's afraid to use his money and only plays on a demo account lol.  

No.
The chances of making money from playing games is the motivation behind gambling for us. The reward for spending my hard earned money that I can afford to lose on gambling is to make more money from gambling and sports betting. If there is an alternative reward for gambling and sports betting other than the promise of monetary gains,  I'll still gamble. If there is none at all, we'd participate in other activities.

No, I mean, staking money and winning money or something is one of the big parts of what makes gambling fun(and dangerous), if you remove that part of gambling you remove the majority of what makes gambling fun.

believe it or not, some people gamble purely for entertainment. this doesn't mean that they don't care about winning and making money from gambling, it just means they don't expect to make money from it every time they gamble and they understand that losing is part of gambling.

Personally, my interest in gambling would diminish if the chances of making money were gone, even if I claim to still gamble for fun. It's different when you expect to earn a profit when you win, right? For me, the excitement and thrill of the game would disappear without the potential financial gain; it's no longer enough to draw me in. The money involved still has a significant appeal, which is why we are eager to try our luck in gambling. Perhaps I'll just look for other activities that offer similar excitement but with tangible benefits. They say the primary purpose and main goal should be entertainment, but if the bonus of financial gain is lost, it's no longer considered gambling.

I voted no. While I don’t gamble for the financial aspect of it, most of my gambling is done via sports betting. The entertainment lies in having money on the line when you watch the game. Without money on the line you would need some other motivating factor. Perhaps a leaderboard of correct predictions or something like that.

I believe the primary enjoyment in gambling comes from the thrill of winning money. Without the chance of a reward, it doesn't make sense to put money into something with the risk of losing. When we talk about gambling being for fun, it doesn't mean we don't care about the money we might win, but rather, we try to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to earn a living. Unfortunately, many gamblers don't see it that way, and that's where they get the wrong idea about gambling. Our interest in gambling wouldn't be as high if there weren't the possibility of making money. Without the chance to win, many people wouldn't be investing their money and time in gambling. They might still make predictions for fun, but without the potential for a reward, it wouldn't be as appealing to anyone.

I don’t really get you when you say, “without any chance of making money”

Are you implying, no chance of making money from the games you gamble upon but still, you have to stake with your money?
If that be the case then no! I mean, why do I have to lose money just to play and have no means of getting some reward when my prediction comes true. There isn’t much excitement in that. The excitement is the money, the reward, the bonus and so, we need that for it to be gambling.

Again, if not making money implies you not having a source of income,,,
I think most persons in my locality gamble without a source of income. Gambling gives hope to a common man, even though it continues to drain the good life out of gamblers at times. It always comes with promises and encourages you to be hopeful.
Many does win in the end but, a lot of others always end up broke. That’s why, you need to be responsible in gambling.

If basketball didn't have a ball being shot into a basket, would it still be called basketball? If there's no money or risk involved, it's not really gambling IMO.

we drive to the park and have fun there without gaining funds back, we even go for vacations and spend our money in exchange for relaxation, we play games online and even pay to purchase the games and even to increase the features of these games, without being promised a dime in return, we even go for horse riding, rent the horses and ride them without getting a dime in reward. we do it happily.

With all these sighted examples, we can see that other fun filled activities are done without the promise of any dime in return and they are done happily without regrets, if you really mean for gambling to be a source of fun for you, it can give you the same satisfaction the other fun-based games gives us and for me, no mater the outcome from the casinos, I'm only interested in one thing when I gamble, I clear my head from the accumulated stress from work, as far as I'm getting the relief that I need, I'm very much fine and would definitely gamble again as far as my aim is always achieved there.

Of course not, if I need to spend money on a gambling game I'm playing and the game doesn't provide prizes then I won't play it. However, if I don't have to pay then I will still gamble even though there is no prize money in gambling. I sometimes play demo mode slots just for entertainment and pass the time, sometimes I also play house edge games with free coins provided by the casino.

However, if there is no money prize in gambling, then maybe my intensity in playing it will decrease because whether I admit it or not, what makes gambling more interesting and challenging is because there is money in it.

Definitely no as the interest was already not there. Besides, if such games do exist, I won't touch it in the first place. It's different from other games, specifically the usual online games (MMORPG, MOBA, etc), which do even not yield money and are just literally a game, they can attract players to that game because of the genre and theme and these players are even willing to spend money on game stuffs.

Unfortunately, we can't apply the same thing in casino games.

I'm also one of those gamblers who play for fun, and if i'm going to play a game without expecting any money in return, there has to be an alternative form of value for me to keep going. If there's none, I might as well play through the casino's fun mode or with play money since it's the same thing.

I voted for no because it's clear that the chances of winning are close to nonexistent. I'd better pass up and take my money somewhere else because gambling isn't the only activity that can get me entertained.

Can we still call it gambling if we are playing for candies? I don't think so. Gambling is making a bet in exchange for money or whatever that is redeemable for money. If are going into casinos and play games with the possibility of winning stuffed toys or apparels or gadgets, we are not gambling. And that might not be considered a casino anymore. You can call it a festival or a carnival but not a casino. For a game to be considered gambling, it has to involve money in one way or another.

Actually, gambling is for fun.
Because a wealthy person has a company with a lot of money and his income from his company's business is a lot and sufficient. but in fact people still gamble.
so gambling there is pleasure and makes people addicted. whether you lose or win, you still continue to gamble. whether you are rich or poor, you still gamble. the same as people with mild addictions, for example cigarettes, they still continue to smoke.

Gambling refers to the activity where you risk something in anticipation of winning a larger value. It doesn't have to be money and gambling has been here way before there were any concept of money. It involved physical possession or service.
And something you spend money on for fun and don't have any return regardless are games.
It can't be called gambling when there's no gamble. It's like getting drunk on expensive water cause you can't handle alcohol.

interesting question but I also have a question again that if indeed gambling no longer has a chance of returning our money from winnings maybe it is not called gambling but just a video game and will never ask customers to deposit a certain amount of money but only provide free coins for gambling. does what I think make sense?  ::)

It's no wonder that in the end more people will choose to stop gambling if the opportunity to return money is no longer valid in gambling and that makes perfect sense because why should we waste money without any certainty and if they are just having fun they will definitely choose other alternatives such as playing video games.
and for me personally, even though I gamble just for fun, I still hope to win because after all, if I bet with money and the chance of winning is low, I definitely won't be able to have the budget to gamble again, whereas every time I win, I will definitely use it again to gamble the next day. will come but even if for example it does happen maybe I will still come and bet but not more than $1.

Speaking frankly, I do gamble for fun but somewhere behind the fun is hidden, the zeal to win is breathing heavily. If the winning is the engine room that fuels the gambling lifestyle and fun is what keeps the pain of losses away then a combination is healthy but if one of the duo seizes to exist then there is no need to indulge in whatever way.


I can not and will not gamble when winning is not in sight, whether it is tagged a fun gambling or not, there is no bigger picture to look at and that makes it no worthy of my involvment.

My sincere answer would be NO! If we should imagine such scenario where we play games on casinos for absolute entertainment purposes with no chance of winning money in return, then, there should be another name for it because it's not longer gambling. The money wagered and the outcome of that your money is what makes it to be gambling. When we say gambling for fun, we are not overlooking the money making aspect just as you pointed out in your post but it's a way to balance our hopes and not feel disappointed when we get negative outcomes.

The thrill of winning money without no doubt is a big part of the appeal of gambling and I'm very sure that majority including myself would lose interest if there's no chance of financial gain in gambling. Of course, there are things we pay for just to have fun and we are doing it but in the case of gambling, unless they find another suitable name for it and redesign the system else many will lose interest because winning money is part of the system and it is the force that triggers us to gamble and we derive fun while doing it.

Yeah, I took note of this though I didn't mention it on the thread,  :D, if you read the question part of the op, that is the last paragraph, you did realize I used the word "play" or "playing" instead of "gamble" or "gambling", I did this because while I was typing the op, I realized that, gambling without a chances making profit or money, is not really gambling, but playing, like we say that we want to play video games and so.

So, you are right, without the chances or ability of making money off gambling, then it is just we playing a game and not gambling.

Could be different for anyone, I mean others might be gambling for fun really. But most of us gamble looking for a good returns at least win some money so that we can continue to play. And with that, I have nothing against those who enjoy and maybe they have extra money to burn and be entertained.

But majority of us in sports betting or even luck based games are looking for that one big win and expecting that we will have a good chance despite the odds are against us, to hit and win money.

I will not be a hypocrite. No, even if it brings me entertainment or fun, I will not spend money on a website where I need to spend money just to play gambling. If I want to play gambling games wherein I will not have to spend even a penny, then there are websites that offer them purely for playing gambling games with no money related to or involved, because why not? If you will play on a gambling site where you need to play gambling games and you know you don't have chances of winning, then why would I not play on a website where I can play gambling games and play with other players for free? The purpose is for fun and entertainment only, right?

So it's a big no. I'm not being greedy; I'm just stating the fact that I'm not in a state where I can spend or waste money just to play something. Of course,  I would want to play gambling games with my money and a chance of winning some, but I'm not the one who will hope to win and will be disappointed if not.

If there's one casino that will promote itself as a platform where you will have fun playing but have no chance of winning, I don't think it will be supported and only a few players will play on this kind of casino, casinos are being promoted as an entertainment platform with a chance to make money these two elements are what makes people play on casinos and there are players who seek to make money from gambling and there are so many of these gamblers, so the casino will lose these clients, although they can still make money but not as huge as when you promote the platform for fun and making money.

So far the poll reflects this

Oh yes, I will be happy spending my money, gambling for nothing but fun.   - 3 (20%)
Hell no, why would I waste my money doing something that has no chance of bringing me money back in return?   - 12 (80%)
Total Voters: 15

I don't really think so. The primary motive of gambling is making real money not for some sort of online fun. Though there are online fun games that you will play and win cash but those are just demo acc or games for beginners. So there is no need of such because time is money and as days pases so do we have the mindset of making real money and meeting up to our daily needs rather waisting time in what will not favour us. In another way round, It will be annoying when you win thousands of dollars in a demo casino account which you can't make use of. You will think that you should have tried this in real bet than this online game. And that will drastically change your mind from playing such games.

I see @OP is one of person who actually don't understand the fun in gambling.

A grown man will not feel fun when you're just playing a game without risking anything, it feels like how I need to wasting my time just for playing? but if you playing a game and risking some money, you will feel excited and want to beat your opponent in order to earn the money, at the same time you don't want to lose your money without any point.

When I was a younger man, me and my friends would be out playing basketball for hours every night. Usually 2-3 hours a night 3-5 days a week. We would also play video games for a couple hours a night as well.

I think when we are young and not too concerned about bills or money, we "play" for the fun of it without any issue. Once we are of the age where utilities or rent or cell bill or whatever is close to needing paid, we are more inclined to not "play" games, but to gamble to make a few bucks.

It's all about circumstances I suppose.

Yes, I will continue gambling on slot games and betting on sports betting even though I don't have a big chance of winning like other people. I'm okay with losing some money to have fun at gambling without being able to win any money. Victory is just timing for me and will come when the time is right so I will not chase that victory. What will happen, let it happen because if I can control myself well in gambling games and avoid spending huge amounts of money, I can enjoy gambling for fun. And if I can't win after gambling this week, that's okay because my target in gambling is not to chase money. Money is just a bonus for me. Even if it is a big or small win, it is still a bonus. So I don't mind it at all and will continue gambling.

I think that things when it comes to the game , many of us have Points of life that can Start any Type of debate, on some occasions depending on the responses and the way of Thinking of some, it can give us a basis for knowing that the person is missing something and that he is going through a Difficult time or perhaps he is about to do something Inappropriate such as spending more money than normal , or sometimes it may seem that the person may be in the sign of being in a possible addiction or that he is simply already in an addiction , it all depends on how you look at things , in my case in particular I could say Something , if the game Represents fun and entertainment at the same time a very different kind of enjoyment, because how important a healthy and adult enjoyment is, because there are people who They like to play, and Yes , even so without the chance of Making money they do it, because they maintain hope, they do not play to leave their money there on Purpose, we all know that in some cases we have a chance of Winning , even if they are minimal but there are still some, otherwise It was not a business, but a source of Donations.

Now considering the casino as a larger Entity , we can see the chaos of lotteries, because lotteries without a Doubt have very small possibilities to Win , and yet there are people who Every day, all the players, faithfully play their games with the probablides of deg arn and of Making some difference if they were to win the jackpot because things can simply be seen differently, because their perseverance led them to win and that is not Bad at all , it is something that is seen with great victory and that if it is possible to do things well , of course things can be seen from that side, now if they do not win and win then the person will Continue to cry Anyway , everything is a question of faith for me , if a Person does not finish the He hopes he will continue playing, or he will continue buying lotteries, or he will continue betting on a sports bet, but he will Remain firm.

There are people who have made enough money and don't have the time to live a fun life due to work commitments and others. People like this are ready to spend money on games even if they are not making money from it, but they are playing the game to have fun and are ready to spend a huge sum of money to catch the fun whenever they get the opportunity.

No way I will play, this is a casino, not a gaming platform where you play for fun and there is a specific amount to spend, on casinos they challenge you to spend money in the hope of doubling it and they are not limiting your bet they want you to increase your bankroll, you are risking your money with casinos in the hope of profit.
Let's admit it although the casinos promote themselves as entertainment portal and even if we make us to believe that we are playing for fun, there's always the hope of winning money, so I prefer to play on casinos with the two elements present have fun and at the same time a chance to make money.

Yes, I would continue to gamble since it provides a valuable learning experience. I learn something new about myself, the odds, and the game with each bet I make. The journey involves self-awareness, risk knowledge, and strategy. I learn to control emotions, make snap decisions, and understand chance and skill. This gambling table expertise is useful in many areas of life

The studying isn't my only draw to gambling. It's also about the excitement and relationships it creates. In common, gamblers have a mutual understanding and respect, which is a kind of brotherhood. Will this hold my interest forever? Probably not. Time passes; excitement may fade, causing boredom. However, gambling is still an interesting and rewarding pastime for the time being. Not only is profit important, but so is the adventure, community, and lessons learnt

I don't think such games exist and even if it does, they cannot be classified as gambling. I usually see such games during religious occasions that are channelled towards fundraising. You just stake money on some games because you want to contribute to the Church and not to make more money. No matter how much you own nobody wants to waste money. Even a billionaire wouldn't want to lose a dollar. There are many free games online that you can play without money, I prefer to play such games to stake money without expecting anything in return.


This snooker game you spoke about cannot be categorized as gambling, you just pay some money to gain access to the game. This is just the same thing as buying a cinema ticket to watch a movie. Paying for entertainment is not gambling until you have the option of winning something in return.

This shouldn't be called gamble when money is not as stake, but it should be called a game. I wouldn't gamble when money is not involved but I will have other means of fun to keep me entertained. However, watching or playing the game is fun, but winning something is what drags you to continue playing and it becomes part of you.

Gambling is in human nature maybe, i would have been gambling secretly with my friends just like we do back then in college. The only thing is that there will be no casino to give us varieties of games, but we will still gamble locally in one way or the other, either within friends, family or neighbors.

I reason with your submission because the money that we bet is the thrill of the gambling, without staking money when we gamble, the excitement will not be complete. You raised a valid point also, when you reasoned that if gambling is just for fun without the prospects of winning, then we'll be happy playing demo games with no monetary attachments. It's human nature to want to conquer and win, even when we have so much, we'll still want to keep aquiring and winning, that's the underlying fun why most gamblers always comes back to gamble more. I even started a similar topic in this gambling discussion board, because I think that we might gamble for fun, but the underlying thrill is that we want to win money and more.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479442.0

Gambling of any form without any chance and expectation to win money would be dumb.  Lmao.  Imagine yourself who keeps gambling and knowing that you won't have any chance of winning.  Where's the 'enrertainment' in that?  It essentially removes the entertainment aspect if you already know the result which is losing.  :/  

And who in their right mind would still call it gambling?  It's more like throwing your money away.  :D  People would eventually stop because it's not fun.

No way I'd be spending money in gambling that will not give me anything back.
Do you mean like gacha games thing? Well, I'd rather spend it there because somehow I can enjoy their games and there's a big difference in how they are created. I mean, imagine playing dice, a super boring game and there are no returns that will happen. That's like the stupidest thing I would ever do. At least in gacha games you will see the progress of your avatar/character. You will know if you are stronger than other players especially if you can kill them. In casino games that is like playing a boring game while paying and we won't even feel the excitement that it brings because we are not expecting something.
I am also gambling for fun but it doesn't mean I don't like money. There's no one in this world who doesn't want money. It's the second purpose of why I gamble after having fun or just avoiding boredom.

I think there is no problem with that and I will play the game as an example, just like when I play poker on my cellphone like texas holdem zynga poker which I usually play for fun even though I have to spend money buying poker chips and also don't get any money at all. from gambling on that poker application, so in my opinion there is no problem with me gambling without any chance of making any money, everything can still be played for fun.

After all, isn't the gambling game just for entertainment and maybe it started as a game that didn't make money, but after going through several developments, the gambling game requires another adrenaline rush by placing bets such as money or assets, so that's what might make it very popular nowadays. This is because people chase too much money from gambling itself, not to have fun like you or me do  ;D

I will definitely avoid gambling and forget it as soon as they remove the element of "winning money" in this aspect.

Remember that what satisfies the urge of players to gamble is the adrenaline of the unknown- which means that you will never accurately predict whether you will win or lose at the same time. Without any monetary aspect in gambling, this removes that satisfaction, thereby making it a chore rather than as a form of entertainment.

Like what most have mentioned also, there are other ways to have fun in which it may give the satisfaction that gambling may have. But removing the sole aspect that what makes gambling "fun" is definitely a dealbreaker that I will compel me to forget it completely.

Certainly not. What would be the point of playing? That wouldn't be called gambling in the first place. The reason gambling is fascinating is because we're unaware of the outcome; the anticipation is what gets us going, boosting our adrenaline levels. If we know from the beginning that we can't make any money from it, then there will be no emotional release; all the emotions that are going through our body are what's making gambling exciting.

I would consider playing if there was the option not to use actual money but virtual money, like it's a game. Providing that, in the completely hypothetical scenario, there were no other alternatives available. However, you're mentioning that casinos would still function like they're supposed to, requiring money to play but without any chances of winning, which would be absurd if someone was willing to waste his time and funds with zero purpose and outcome.

I can’t say about others but I wouldn’t gamble if there wasn’t some sort of reward to be won later on. I thought that was what gambling is all about. The possibility to win some sort of prize is what pushes a lot of people to actually gamble.
I think I might actually pay a small token if I’m so in love with a particular game but I wouldn’t be playing as frequently as when it was free, that’s for sure. As for sports betting like football games, I’m not sure I’ll be betting any amount if there wasn’t a slight chance of winning a reward later on.

Maybe we should take a journey a little bit back to understand more better on the reason why gambling was created and how it has always been, people discovered that leaving together in a society can be as having fun together thereby making friends and through that, gambling was introduced and people take pleasure in it for having fun and making friends, it was later that some have seen it as an avenue of making money in doing so, since money is being involved in gambling, you can also bet and win money back, even though that was very far from the purpose of gambling, but we make money, there are some gamblers who don't mind about how much they have spent on gambling as long as they keep having fun through it.

I cannot answer the poll because there is no reason to answer. Gambling from the root word gamble implies a prize if the player is lucky. Without the prizes, it is not gambling but only a game.

Without the prizes, are there individuals ready to pay for them to play casino games? Perhaps there are few individuals, yet it will not be that attractive any longer because there are numerous games with similarities on the web and offline that allow us to play for free.

During the time I was studying for my degree, I had numerous casino games on my old laptop, and I played them for free.

Of course I would, as long as it is for just the fun of it.
Gambling is seen as a pleasurable activity known to stimulate the mental state. It could be a social sport for a group of friends who share same interest and as such without money it should be enjoyable.

These days however, it would be hard to gamble without money being involved. It is the involvement of money or the chances of making money that makes gambling popular round the world, also because of its ability to affect the economy of nations.

What's the difference with playing without money? why I need to play without an opportunity to make money and gave away my money for nothing lol.

It's like, do you want to work for nine to five without get any benefit e.g. salary, free lunch, facilitation, room? :D

If you can't get your money regardless you lose or win the game, I'd say it's a donation instead of gambling.

Let's gamble with me, whether you lose or win, you give your money to me.

I don't think that's going to be an option for someone, gambling when you know that you're not going to win with a concrete evidence is definitely a no for me, it's different to when you know that you have a chance, you want to risk it because you might win it unlike with the proposed scenario where you're not getting anything even if you play. I guess it's in our best interest if we're making sure that we're having a chance at getting our money back that a lot are going to not gamble when there's way they can win back.

If the money has no monetary value at all then I would love to gamble it. No one on their right mind would spend their money without getting anything in return unless that's for a charity and was wholeheartedly given. These days that should be a rare scenario and likely only the riches will have fond on doing that one.

And indeed in gambling no one can have guaranteed chance of winning and of course everything is not certain or it could be said that in gambling this is full of the risk of losing, not the chance of winning.
We know that the opportunity to win cannot be had by anyone who hopes for it, but the opportunity to win can be had by those who are lucky.
But what happened? we still continue to gamble, depositing certain amount of money to lose and of course there is no guarantee that we will win, it just that we feel pleasure, we can be very happy in every game or bet we make.
From this it can be concluded that even though we are not chasing victory or have the opportunity to win, we will still continue to gamble as long as it can provide pleasure and satisfaction that cannot be provided from other activities.
What more, if we really gamble using money that we have prepared to lose, then whatever the outcome as long as the money we have prepared is still there, there will be no intention or desire to stop.
I have almost the exact same attitude and mindset as you regarding the gambling activities we do today.

If there's no risk involved
If there's no money involved
If there's no betting involved

THEN ITS NOT GAMBLING!

It isnt really that had to understand on which even just using up our own common sense then people wont really be interested something like this on which you are really that paying for the entertainment and leisure you do seek? As we do all know that there are other things on which you could really be able to enjoy yourself on which it isnt really that needing any money.
People wont really be that interested on something that they couldnt get in return. Although we do know literally about gambling on which you are staking
some funds to bet on but still there are people who do really love on that way. It do really adds up the spice and thrill on the time that you do make out bets.

This is why gambling industry is soo big because interest and demand is high because of those probabilities and opportunities
into those people who do really love on making bets and possibly be able to get huge amount of winning too.

Why on earth I will spend money to play casino games because I can do the same from mobile itself which is called games.

If you remove the money from gambling then it is supposed to come under the category of games and it doesn't make sense to spend money to play basic games. Even though money should not be the prime motive of someone to gamble still its the essence which brings the thrill feature for basic game just because of the money is at stake and the results are unpredictable.

I see that the majority of us are agreeing to the No Pull, but if you ask most people, they will always claim that they are out there to gamble just for fun, but we all within ourselves know that the money that is to be won from gambling is part of the things that are attracting us to the game.
 
There is fun in the game, and there is also fun in winning. If there is no chance for us to win in a game, then we will never have to place a bet in the first place, removing the possibility of winning in gambling.
 
A lot of us will prefer to play online video games of different categories than go to the casino to gamble, as it might appear as a total waste of time and money. The money that could be doubled or multiplied if we place a bet is part of the reason why we gamble with money in the first place.

Its something similar to playing poker with zynga chips vs playing poker with real money. People still enjoy playing with zynga chips but if you really want to have fun, you'll have to switch to either tournaments, on cash games.

That is a difficult question as I do not think we will ever reach that point, as that will require those casinos to outcompete the current casinos in which you still have some chances to win, and this will mean that an inferior product will have to beat a superior one, something that is not very common especially when the superior product already has all the market share, but supposing that it happened I think I would still gamble from time to time but I am sure I will reduce the rate at which I did so.

When gambling for fun, it's normal for you to be expecting money, and if you win, then you can use your win for anything you wish to use it for. Because you are gambling for fun doesn't mean you won't make use of the money you win. If you are gambling for fun, then you will have peace of mind because you won't be desperate to win. But when you are gambling for the sake of money, then you will end up doing everything you can do just because you want to win, and that's when the problem is always starting. If you are desperate to win, you will do some crazy things just because you want to win. I have seen some people that do take gambling as their full-time job, they depend on gambling for survival, which is not really making sense to me. What will happen if you don't win for a long period of time? How will you be able to feed and take care of yourself?

To be honest with you, If i can't win from gambling but it will require me to always deposit, then I won't be gambling again. Even if I am having fun from gambling, I have other things in which I can involve myself, and I will also have the same fun from gambling, because it doesn't make any sense to me. How will you expect me to always deposit, but I will not win?

There are people who spend money on activities that they know that they can't earn from so I still think that there will still be people that pay to play these games even though there are no chances of winning, but they will no longer be called gamblers. Gambling and playing on those games is a lot of fun for some people even though it is hard for some people to believe, just as people pay and use their data to play online games, people will pay to play the games from casinos. The profit for casinos will be affected, but they will still be in business.

I don't think so, if gambling doesn't have the opportunity to make money then I will no longer gamble, because in my opinion even though there is pleasure in it like the sensation I will feel it will not have a useful impact, if it is to get pleasure then I would rather choosing other things like watching a movie,  or spending the money to buy what I want, because I think the odds in gambling are not promising but I'm sure every once in a while we will definitely win, even if it's not much hahaha. :D

and if I still have enough money and a clear income then I will continue gambling with the aim of eliminating curiosity, but of course not forgetting to limit my gambling activities in terms of time and budget. Even though I have money ready to lose in gambling and still have spare money,  that doesn't mean I have to gamble continuously, because that's certainly not something that should be done.

If a gambling game means risking money without getting money, then at least we get something valuable from a game that can entertain us apart from the UI/UX services of a game platform (for example game items, or anything that is considered valuable in the game). and if you don't get anything it's not gambling, just a normal game.

the same thing with other gambling, or other bets, such as football, for example, if there is nothing to bet on then there is nothing interesting in betting, just a small example, you bet with your friends in a football match, then you and your friends just support the team you like without any betting. it's also fun but doesn't get the more exciting excitement of the matches.

I won’t gamble even if I’m doing it for fun. If it will not generate money, I will not do it, although I believe some people will say since it's for fun, why will I think of getting money back? But we all know if there is such a strategy for getting money, people will not even do it, even if they'll do it for the sake of having fun. Although I'm not gambling that much, anytime I do it for fun, but I'm still expecting money in return because I used my money to go stake, so the same thing as other people saying they gamble for fun even if they didn’t get their money back, they won’t boarder that one aside, man, if there’s no getting money in return, that's not gambling.

Although some individuals are there that will gamble if it will not generate money because many things have been done and they didn’t generate money, they still do it, so the same thing as gambling, they will still have some people that will gamble even if it will not generate money for them.

I chose the first option in the vote.

From the start I had set aside money that I intended to play gambling. And the money is special and all my needs have been met. The point is, if the money runs out, I'm willing.

It cannot be denied that I play gambling and aim to win, but here there is fun where I have to struggle to find the right strategy so that what I do can make me win. When faced with this, it is very encouraging.

This is gambling in its essence it's about risking your hard-earned money and hoping for a return if a platform doesn't have this feature it's not gambling at all a platform taking away this feature I don't think gamblers will support and play on this kind of platform, gamblers' are all about making fun at the same time planning to profit from their betting and it reflects on the poll.
It is a double pleasure for a player if they can have fun and there are additional incentives and this is by having a chance to double or even triple your bets.

And because we don't know how big our chances of winning are, we shouldn't force ourselves to gamble more often to not lose more money in gambling. But it is the opportunity to win that continues to tempt gamblers to always return to gambling and gamble continuously so that they believe that one day they can win. And that's why many gamblers still use more of their money to gamble and many of them even then add more money to gamble even though that will not increase their chances of winning but only increase their chances of losing from gambling. By playing gambling, they must be able to accept their loss and must not feel frustrated or stressed, and they will feel that they can still win the gambling game. Gamblers who already get pleasure from gambling will always return to gambling, while those who know that the pleasure of gambling should not continue continuously to avoid the problem of gambling addiction. They will always try to limit their gambling activities rather than experiencing a gambling addiction.

You are very right and I agree with you bud, gambling is mainly for fun and it's always a double fun when a gambler get to double it triple their initial bet amount in the course of having fun.

But then again, fact will still remain that, not every gambler will or understand gambling to be majorly all about having fun, for most gamblers that I know are way more interested in making money through gambling than doing it for fun.

Anyways, it's exactly as you have said it, not very many gamblers will want to keep spending money to play games when there is no chance of them winning or making any profit in return, this goes a long way to show that, fun in gambling is not complete without the chance to make money.

Not actually the cinema kins of thing, here it depends on what you want to do with the snooker game, whether you will play for fun or bet money who wins goes home with the cash and here people bet huge amount of money that they will win their opponent player and some people who aren't good enough stake on the head of those they think will win.

However, I agree with yahoo62278 point that when money is no longer involved, it's not gambling, and this is the case.

There is no way to cast a vote in the poll OP but I will choose the first one in the list. If I can pay on a video game only to play for fun without a way of making real money, then why I can't do the same thing in gambling? But in a video game, you can still be able to play for free and the money that you deposit will only be used to buy your character a skin and other items which can enhance your gaming experience.

Maybe gambling will now work like that? If in case they will remove the earning feature. Or else people will just choose the free ones. There are lots of them that I can see in the Google Play Store, since I'm using an Android phone.

Hahaha, you are right, gambling is always related to risk, money, and being at stake, if all of that doesn't exist then it can't be said to be gambling.
But already I explained it and of course I said that we still do it even though we know the risks are dangerous because of the pleasure and happiness that can be obtained.

Every gambler has their own way of risking their money and every gambler has their own goals when entering gambling, it just that not everyone who gambles can understand and have the right approach to gambling.
Wouldn't you feel sympathy when you see many people betting carelessly using most of their money, I know they gamble on their own accord but betting carelessly is not the right attitude.
And of course they make gambling grow faster, but who benefits the most? The answer is that those who own this business, we are just customers who are just looking for entertainment and pleasure, not profit or looking for guaranteed opportunities to win.

Of course, if we understand the chances we have of winning, we can't always be careful and always gamble according to our abilities, but do many gamblers do that? does not seem.
For gamblers who are wise in gambling, I admit that they fully understand the risks and consequences of gambling, that why professional gamblers who have responsible attitude and are wise in making decisions can always bet relaxedly even if they lose.
No gambler will accept defeat, but as much as possible, with a good approach and understanding, gamblers can be calm even when they lose.
They will forget about the chance of winning which cannot be guaranteed and they will look for what they need, such as satisfaction in playing.

The question is changing the real meaning of gambling. If there is no chance of making money, we cant call it as gambling anymore. Maybe it will be just like spending money for our hobbies only such as spending money to rent a futsal field or spending money to modify our car/bike. I think it will better if you change the question to "will you still play the gambling game while you have to risk money to play it"? If this is the question, my answer is obviously NO. Why I should risk money while there is no chance to make money, even if I can have some fun playing the game but in fact there are the same games that can be played for free if the main point is just for fun.

Not many people can understand how big a chance of winning we have, but they still risk their money to win. They are still tempted to continue gambling because they hope to take home some of their winnings. But they have to admit that it is not easy to do because it means they have to be prepared if they have to lose most, if not all, of their money. We, as gamblers, must be wise in managing our money for gambling. Otherwise, we will only lose money more often at the gambling table without getting the win we want. And because many gamblers have lost, we have to be more careful when gambling and always limit the use of money. And if the chance of winning is not big, it would be better if we didn't gamble too hard and just gambled in moderation. That's enough for us so we have to stop gambling immediately.

Voted for No, and can see that’s also where majority voted for, we all love what the gambling system is given us both the money and the fun so if one of them is being removed we can’t still be viewing gambling with the same intention we use to view it before, profit and money making from it is one thing that made gambling as popular as it is today and the traffic they are getting is base on both the fun the players are getting from It and the potential money they think they can win from the casino if they use there skill very well.

It’s only few people which don’t even know how strong there will is that will still continue to gamble if there is no money to be won involved in it even if some people still continue gambling there activities will reduce and the amount they spend will also be cut of since there is nothing that will come out of it.

Which in turn will reduce the profits of those casinos as many people will think like you, and in that case the will of the people will force them to go back to what they were, denying the scenario brought by the OP, we must remember that things are this way because of several reasons, if casinos could get away with this they would have done so long time ago, and the fact that not one of them dares to try this model is proof enough that it will never work.

maybe most will just go here in occasional basis. only from time to time, when they want to have some fun. just like most theme parks. it is not that everyday people visit such place. but if that is the feature of gambling, i guess, there will be no gambling addicts. but why such thinking now? this part of life of humans have been long existing in human history, dating back to ancient times.
so this thought is all just in hypothetical basis and there's no chance of seeing it in reality.


and such question won't happen in real life anyway. so for me, this question is acually not worth. but for discussions sake, why everyone can create any topic that they think of under the sun. if there's no money involved anymore on this, i don't think many people will be part of this. they will just go here from time to time, if there's nothing to do with their spare time.

Honestly, it would be a yes for me. And this is not me acting so morally upright or whatever cause I couldn't care less about how other people feel about gambling for entertainment really.

It's not like I have a lot of money to burn either, the thing is that I just see gambling for what I think it is: Nothing but a way for you to have fun and enjoy yourself when other ways to pass the time isn't available at you fingertips. A lot of the hate that people harbor against gambling stems from the fact that they think casinos and gambling sites victimize them for profit, when they never really tell you you'd win shit, at least those that are reputable for that matter. Most casinos explicitly warn you about gambling even, just so people who see gambling as nothing but a way for them to earn extra money on weekends are deterred and informed of what gambling really is, and we still see people blaming gambling for their lives being ruined, their money being swiped, or their addictions becoming even worse. Gambling is just the means my friend, ruining your life is still very much up to you.

And that's pretty much all the qualms I have against people who gamble for profit really. The fact that they delude themselves into thinking the casino will give them a fair chance when house edge literally exists and then cry about it when they don't get what they want appalls me so much that I can sometimes see what my brain looks like from how far my eyes roll back.

Don't you think people of nowadays has been gradually trying to change the gambling language to a place of wealth doubling? Maybe could be Yes or Not but recently let say for the past 15 to 10 years now people orientation has drifted from where it's to a more better and wanting state although it could be that the economic recession or inflation has taken over making people to diversify their skills and while much more people delving into gambling to increase their potential for a sustainable source.

If there's absolutely no chance to win, surely the only appeal to gambling would be maybe the graphics and the community?
I can't think of anything else in terms of playing.
But to be honest both the community and graphics in Gambling aren't strong. Money is literally the whole foundation to it.
Perhaps the point of not winning money but at least winning something would still entice people. But winning nothing of value when gambling and not even having any chances?
How could we even call that gambling?

So far, this is the result of the poll, reflecting the players' goals when they gamble. Gamblers understand the definition of gambling: it's staking or betting your money in the hope that you'll receive something in return if you get lucky. It's demoralizing to play on a platform where your chances of winning are zero. Even when the odds are one in a million, you still want to have a chance. Given two similar platforms, the platform that provides chances to win will receive more votes, as reflected in this poll.
I'm also surprised that there are votes to option 1 but we all have different preferences when it comes to betting.

Chances to win money is the main adrenaline in gambling, it doesn't matter if the winning is small and you've lost more in gambling, coupled with the fact that it might not solve any major financial needs for you, but just the excitement of winning is part of the fun. So if you remove winnings in gambling, it'll become boring and I doubt that it should be called gambling again, it'll probably be like some kids games , there'll be no real adventure in it, because nothing is at stake to challenge you, whether you'll defeat it or not. There's that part of us as humans that wants to take risks and we unleash it when we gamble, so without the prospect of betting money and the chances of winnings, gambling won't complete.

a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

You are right, and in essence, what if the money being spent is offering you pleasure in return? Instead of the chances of making a bigger amount of money back in return?
What if the something that the game is offering is pleasure, like for example, in all this video, mobile and computer games we play on our phone and computer, we do normally see that some or most of those games comes with in-app purchases, which means that, players can spend money to purchase some items in inside the game in order to boost their gaming experience and nothing more, and funny enough, most players of such games actually do spend their hard earned money buy some meaningless stuff only just to increase their gaming pleasure,  ;D, does it mean they don't know what they are doing?
Wouldnt you still spend money to increase your gaming pleasure and give you a better experience, instead of potentially winning money?

Haha but first I see inconsistency here. How will someone stake money when he knows that if the outcome is that he won but he won't get any money in return and he will continue to play? Even those in the saying that gambling is for fun will not continue. So the answer is no. I won't play if the mode is on no payment if you win, gambling is not only tied with fun or fulfillment but you gamble for money and staking your money without the expectation of money is like cooking food without adding salt to it.

If it doesnt really risking any funds or money then it isnt really gambling in the first place and this is something that people should really be that realizing
on which gambling is something that you are risking something to earn something, doesnt matter if its a money, possession, or thing that does have value.
If ever there would really be those bets having no value then it isnt really that gambling at all.

Its up to you whether you would really be putting up something has value to increase or put up some thrill or would really be having
that kind of excitement on which we know that this is something that other people would really be trying to seek or look for.

If I were the person who votes the first option, it's better for me to donate my money to charity instead of make a bet. :P

Yeah, it's not make sense at all since you're not gaining anything.

It's really different with a charity fight where the reward will be donated to charity, even the players or teams didn't earn anything, they still get respects or fames from people. It will make them become more popular and have an opportunity to earn money.

Given the scenario where there is no chances of getting money from it then why should I waste my time and money gambling? Much better to spend that money for food and share it to homeless people in the streets. The reason why we gamble is to have fun and this...
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Sure, because it's something that makes all gamblers interested in getting in and getting involved, we and they can't lie to ourselves that if there were no monetary winnings in gambling then obviously the number of people interested would be very small or even nonexistent, the point is that what makes gambling interesting is because there is an object that everyone really needs which is money and because gambling provides an opportunity for anyone to win, but we must remember that it is nothing more than a "chance" which means there is no certainty and no guarantee that it can become a reality. I think we already know about the concept of gambling where you bring something to bet on and the casino will give the possibility of odds to everyone involved and bet there, it's quite simple.

This is not gambling if there’s no chance on making of money. We are gambling because of the “chance” even if small to win a profit on a short period of time. It’s a complete waste of money and time to still try on playing a gambling games that will surely make you lose.

We are not gambling to lose and most importantly we will not be entertained if we are losing because there’s no fun on doing it. It’s hypocrisy to its finest to say that they will still play on games that they have a chance to win at all. Same idea with playing skill based game like poker against pro while you literally have zero skills at all to play that game. There’s no fun on losing.

Yes, I agree with you. It is hypocritical of others to claim that they will bet without expecting anything in return. Although they may receive something, gambling is merely a form of entertainment, and I respect their decision to keep playing even though there is no chance of winning. When you consider it, though, it's incredibly hypocritical since, come on, who doesn't like money? I mean, a lot of us desire financial stability, am I right? And the most vital and significant means of survival that humans have in this world is money.
 
I mean, if gambling doesn't even involve money or thrill people, then, in my opinion, it doesn't do much justice. After all, what good is it to gamble if you're just wasting your time and money on pointless things?
In the end, the person in charge of the casino will become wealthier and continue to profit from the players since he will continue to take in money and have it withdrawn. So for me, it's better to spin your money around and play with it than waste it.

I don't think I would gamble if there is no chance to get profit, it would undermine the whole purpose of inducing thrill on the gambler and that hooking up feeling so many people want to have while rolling dices or spinning slots.
Even though, we all know we are supposed to gamble just for amusement or fun, it is not a contradiction to also have a little chance to have profits, because someone as a responsible gambler can set their mind before gambling to the fact they could end up losing all their wager and still have a good session.
If there was no chance of profit then the experience would not be better than playing some fake-money casino games, like those I used to play when I was a child, on the Game Boy advance, for example. It was all fake money, but still it was fun.

In the case we talk about here, it would be the same but losing actual money constantly. No thank you. I would rather to find some game boy around and win virtual tokens.  :P

The fact gambling is entertaining is exactly due to the possibility of making profit through this activity. If you remove the chance of making profit entirely, it's not going to be funny anymore for most gamblers, otherwise, most people would play demo mode or free gambling apps from playstore, instead of playing at the real casino platforms. And by saying that, I don't mean people play solely for the chance of making money. There is a set of elements involved, anyway, which make this activity rewarding, even when losing on long term.

For many people it's hard to understand this reasoning, but I believe if they put themselves on more wealthy gamblers, they would understand. Those gamblers aren't playing because they are in urge for money or profit. But they like the idea of playing and having a chance to earn money. If they lose, however, it's not going to be the end of the world, because money isn't an issue for them. So they will leave the casino with less money on their pockets than they came in, but they will also leave satisfied for having some fun while playing the games, interacting with other gamblers, having some drinks or meals.

We don't need to exclude one factor from gambling to remain solely with another. Both (chance of profit and fun) are complementary.

Honestly I wouldn't bet on sports if I didn't win money, I say this because the fun part of gambling is the fact that although the odds are very low, there is still a chance that someone can play with little and be lucky enough to win a lot of money. , so I don't see much motivation in someone spending hours analyzing a game and then putting money in and knowing that even if they got the game's result right, that person wouldn't win anything. I highly doubt many people would be in casinos if casinos weren't giving money to the winner. People buy lottery tickets every day, they do it for many years, and they only keep doing it because they hope that one day they will hit the jackpot and become very rich

Everyone likes their efforts to be rewarded, that's why when you have a place where with little effort you will have a lot of reward, so many people run to such places. I remember that in the past a person who played the lottery a lot asked me about sports betting, so I explained everything about export betting to that person. Then she asked me if she placed $1 on sports betting, how much money would she have if she got it right? I then responded by telling him that at most, even if he made a very large bet and it was a multibet bet, he wouldn't win money capable of making him rich, not even $500 wouldn't be. Then he told me that it was pointless to spend time and money on something where the reward was very low. it wasn't worth it. So I was shocked.

this is why a lot of players are getting hooked with gambling because of the mere thought of the possibility of hitting big, right? so that's the very reason why a lot are into this addictive activity. they are trying their luck over and over again for the hope that one day, they will hit the jackpot. because if there's no chance of such winnings, i don't think many people will get involved in this activity.

a perfect example is the lottery. we all know that hitting that thousands of dollars or million-dollar reward is such once in a lifetime opportunity or one in a million chance to happen. and yet, many people are still buying their lotto tickets everyday of their life. some are buying their tickets everyday without fail, betting those numbers again and again for years or decades. so what can you deduce from such situation? even if the chance is very very  slim, if there is a possibility to hit big, people will try to get the share of the pie by buying the tickets in their lifetime.


that is a very good explanation why high rollers exist in this game. so they already have money in their pockets, and yet, why they are going to this activity? the fun/entertainment they are getting here is quite inconvertible with money plus with the hope of winning, hence, why these high rollers are here.
without the fun and possibility of winning, i don't think this will be attractive to rich gamblers.
just think of drake betting multi-million dollars in a single game. why do you think he keeps on doing such activity? he already has millions and yet, he is still trying his luck to multiply it? just goes to show that he is getting satisfaction out of it, enjoying the match esp if he is rooting for someone and at the same time, the possibility of growing his money multiple times.

If sports betting won't require any money but requires me money to enjoy and watch the game, that will do for me. But it's hard to comprehend it with this situation if many of us will continue to gamble without having the chance to make money or at least win some money.

That doesn't makes sense because most of us would love to watch a sports game, soccer game, basketball, boxing or any sports that we love to follow and willing to pay for the entrance and ticket of it.

And it is a different thing to analyze if we're there to gamble and we have no chance to make money. Just like in recreational areas and platforms, we pay to have fun and we don't expect something in return but look at them, they even have some little prizes for the tokens or tickets you earn there as you enkoy.

I think not why continue playing if there is absolutely no chance of winning, regardless of the purpose of gambling for fun but every active gambler definitely still needs the opportunity to profit. Maybe I just limit the money to play at the casino and don't try to spend a lot of money, I whatever the type of gambling. I always set a budget that is within my means and does not exceed the limit, and when I am in a game that does not produce any opportunities I will switch to sports betting.

Sports betting provides a greater chance of profit compared to other casino games, but that is if we can prediction it correctly, I prefer gambling that has a greater chance of profit than one that has a smaller chances because even though gambling is for fun but is still profit opportunities are also important.

Yes that's the main point, however gamblers come with the intention of just entertaining themselves but still they need money from winning, let's straighten out the difference here which is that the difference is that gamblers who prioritize entertainment over winning is because they understand that gambling is a high-risk activity and this is the reason why they come with more prioritizing entertainment over winning like the addicted gamblers do. This does not mean that gamblers who only prioritize entertainment will refuse if they get a win, of course any amount of winnings is a "decent" result to take as a reward for their participation in gambling, and another difference is that gamblers who come with the goal of fun will not force winnings to come with excessive actions that are always done by addicted gamblers.

In terms of budget, of course what you are doing is indeed a recommended thing in gambling which is to limit the amount of budget, because after all gambling is just a probability activity that has no certainty of winning, simply put you can lose and can win at the end of the session and it is unknowable, meaning that only luck can make you go home with a win, and this is the reason why we are more advised to bring small amounts to gambling, because the fear is that it is very possible for you to lose when bringing large budget amounts. For sports betting it is true what you said, but maybe I wouldn't say that there is a bigger winning advantage because this depends on the amount of budget you bet, the point is that sports betting gives you a bigger "chance" and you will be able to get closer to the possibility of winning if you have good knowledge and skills, and if you have a pretty good knowledge in the field of sports then I would advise you to bet there than other bets, but still risk management still needs to be applied because after all sports are still a gamble and a possibility.