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Question: If there was no chances of making money off gambling, would gambling still look attractive to you to engage in?
Oh yes, I will be happy spending my money, gambling for nothing but fun.
Hell no, why would I waste my money doing something that has no chance of bringing me money back in return?

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January 07, 2024, 08:46:49 AM
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Of course, if we understand the chances we have of winning, we can't always be careful and always gamble according to our abilities, but do many gamblers do that? does not seem.
For gamblers who are wise in gambling, I admit that they fully understand the risks and consequences of gambling, that why professional gamblers who have responsible attitude and are wise in making decisions can always bet relaxedly even if they lose.
No gambler will accept defeat, but as much as possible, with a good approach and understanding, gamblers can be calm even when they lose.
They will forget about the chance of winning which cannot be guaranteed and they will look for what they need, such as satisfaction in playing.
Not many people can understand how big a chance of winning we have, but they still risk their money to win. They are still tempted to continue gambling because they hope to take home some of their winnings. But they have to admit that it is not easy to do because it means they have to be prepared if they have to lose most, if not all, of their money. We, as gamblers, must be wise in managing our money for gambling. Otherwise, we will only lose money more often at the gambling table without getting the win we want. And because many gamblers have lost, we have to be more careful when gambling and always limit the use of money. And if the chance of winning is not big, it would be better if we didn't gamble too hard and just gambled in moderation. That's enough for us so we have to stop gambling immediately.

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January 07, 2024, 09:23:25 AM
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Voted for No, and can see that’s also where majority voted for, we all love what the gambling system is given us both the money and the fun so if one of them is being removed we can’t still be viewing gambling with the same intention we use to view it before, profit and money making from it is one thing that made gambling as popular as it is today and the traffic they are getting is base on both the fun the players are getting from It and the potential money they think they can win from the casino if they use there skill very well.

It’s only few people which don’t even know how strong there will is that will still continue to gamble if there is no money to be won involved in it even if some people still continue gambling there activities will reduce and the amount they spend will also be cut of since there is nothing that will come out of it.

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January 12, 2024, 09:53:54 PM
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The question is changing the real meaning of gambling. If there is no chance of making money, we cant call it as gambling anymore. Maybe it will be just like spending money for our hobbies only such as spending money to rent a futsal field or spending money to modify our car/bike. I think it will better if you change the question to "will you still play the gambling game while you have to risk money to play it"? If this is the question, my answer is obviously NO. Why I should risk money while there is no chance to make money, even if I can have some fun playing the game but in fact there are the same games that can be played for free if the main point is just for fun.
Which in turn will reduce the profits of those casinos as many people will think like you, and in that case the will of the people will force them to go back to what they were, denying the scenario brought by the OP, we must remember that things are this way because of several reasons, if casinos could get away with this they would have done so long time ago, and the fact that not one of them dares to try this model is proof enough that it will never work.

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January 12, 2024, 10:04:30 PM
Last edit: January 12, 2024, 10:17:36 PM by AmoreJaz
 #84

Voted for No, and can see that’s also where majority voted for, we all love what the gambling system is given us both the money and the fun so if one of them is being removed we can’t still be viewing gambling with the same intention we use to view it before, profit and money making from it is one thing that made gambling as popular as it is today and the traffic they are getting is base on both the fun the players are getting from It and the potential money they think they can win from the casino if they use there skill very well.

It’s only few people which don’t even know how strong there will is that will still continue to gamble if there is no money to be won involved in it even if some people still continue gambling there activities will reduce and the amount they spend will also be cut of since there is nothing that will come out of it.

maybe most will just go here in occasional basis. only from time to time, when they want to have some fun. just like most theme parks. it is not that everyday people visit such place. but if that is the feature of gambling, i guess, there will be no gambling addicts. but why such thinking now? this part of life of humans have been long existing in human history, dating back to ancient times.
so this thought is all just in hypothetical basis and there's no chance of seeing it in reality.

The question is changing the real meaning of gambling. If there is no chance of making money, we cant call it as gambling anymore. Maybe it will be just like spending money for our hobbies only such as spending money to rent a futsal field or spending money to modify our car/bike. I think it will better if you change the question to "will you still play the gambling game while you have to risk money to play it"? If this is the question, my answer is obviously NO. Why I should risk money while there is no chance to make money, even if I can have some fun playing the game but in fact there are the same games that can be played for free if the main point is just for fun.

and such question won't happen in real life anyway. so for me, this question is acually not worth. but for discussions sake, why everyone can create any topic that they think of under the sun. if there's no money involved anymore on this, i don't think many people will be part of this. they will just go here from time to time, if there's nothing to do with their spare time.

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January 12, 2024, 10:35:49 PM
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Honestly, it would be a yes for me. And this is not me acting so morally upright or whatever cause I couldn't care less about how other people feel about gambling for entertainment really.

It's not like I have a lot of money to burn either, the thing is that I just see gambling for what I think it is: Nothing but a way for you to have fun and enjoy yourself when other ways to pass the time isn't available at you fingertips. A lot of the hate that people harbor against gambling stems from the fact that they think casinos and gambling sites victimize them for profit, when they never really tell you you'd win shit, at least those that are reputable for that matter. Most casinos explicitly warn you about gambling even, just so people who see gambling as nothing but a way for them to earn extra money on weekends are deterred and informed of what gambling really is, and we still see people blaming gambling for their lives being ruined, their money being swiped, or their addictions becoming even worse. Gambling is just the means my friend, ruining your life is still very much up to you.

And that's pretty much all the qualms I have against people who gamble for profit really. The fact that they delude themselves into thinking the casino will give them a fair chance when house edge literally exists and then cry about it when they don't get what they want appalls me so much that I can sometimes see what my brain looks like from how far my eyes roll back.

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January 26, 2024, 10:23:57 PM
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And that's pretty much all the qualms I have against people who gamble for profit really. The fact that they delude themselves into thinking the casino will give them a fair chance when house edge literally exists and then cry about it when they don't get what they want appalls me so much that I can sometimes see what my brain looks like from how far my eyes roll back.
Don't you think people of nowadays has been gradually trying to change the gambling language to a place of wealth doubling? Maybe could be Yes or Not but recently let say for the past 15 to 10 years now people orientation has drifted from where it's to a more better and wanting state although it could be that the economic recession or inflation has taken over making people to diversify their skills and while much more people delving into gambling to increase their potential for a sustainable source.


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January 26, 2024, 11:44:47 PM
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If there's absolutely no chance to win, surely the only appeal to gambling would be maybe the graphics and the community?
I can't think of anything else in terms of playing.
But to be honest both the community and graphics in Gambling aren't strong. Money is literally the whole foundation to it.
Perhaps the point of not winning money but at least winning something would still entice people. But winning nothing of value when gambling and not even having any chances?
How could we even call that gambling?

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January 29, 2024, 12:24:02 PM
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So far, this is the result of the poll, reflecting the players' goals when they gamble. Gamblers understand the definition of gambling: it's staking or betting your money in the hope that you'll receive something in return if you get lucky. It's demoralizing to play on a platform where your chances of winning are zero. Even when the odds are one in a million, you still want to have a chance. Given two similar platforms, the platform that provides chances to win will receive more votes, as reflected in this poll.
I'm also surprised that there are votes to option 1 but we all have different preferences when it comes to betting.

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Oh yes, I will be happy spending my money, gambling for nothing but fun.   - 9 (25%)
Hell no, why would I waste my money doing something that has no chance of bringing me money back in return?   - 27 (75%)
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January 29, 2024, 01:08:04 PM
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Chances to win money is the main adrenaline in gambling, it doesn't matter if the winning is small and you've lost more in gambling, coupled with the fact that it might not solve any major financial needs for you, but just the excitement of winning is part of the fun. So if you remove winnings in gambling, it'll become boring and I doubt that it should be called gambling again, it'll probably be like some kids games , there'll be no real adventure in it, because nothing is at stake to challenge you, whether you'll defeat it or not. There's that part of us as humans that wants to take risks and we unleash it when we gamble, so without the prospect of betting money and the chances of winnings, gambling won't complete.

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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...
You are right, and in essence, what if the money being spent is offering you pleasure in return? Instead of the chances of making a bigger amount of money back in return?
What if the something that the game is offering is pleasure, like for example, in all this video, mobile and computer games we play on our phone and computer, we do normally see that some or most of those games comes with in-app purchases, which means that, players can spend money to purchase some items in inside the game in order to boost their gaming experience and nothing more, and funny enough, most players of such games actually do spend their hard earned money buy some meaningless stuff only just to increase their gaming pleasure,  Grin, does it mean they don't know what they are doing?
Wouldnt you still spend money to increase your gaming pleasure and give you a better experience, instead of potentially winning money?

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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


Haha but first I see inconsistency here. How will someone stake money when he knows that if the outcome is that he won but he won't get any money in return and he will continue to play? Even those in the saying that gambling is for fun will not continue. So the answer is no. I won't play if the mode is on no payment if you win, gambling is not only tied with fun or fulfillment but you gamble for money and staking your money without the expectation of money is like cooking food without adding salt to it.


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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

If it doesnt really risking any funds or money then it isnt really gambling in the first place and this is something that people should really be that realizing
on which gambling is something that you are risking something to earn something, doesnt matter if its a money, possession, or thing that does have value.
If ever there would really be those bets having no value then it isnt really that gambling at all.

Its up to you whether you would really be putting up something has value to increase or put up some thrill or would really be having
that kind of excitement on which we know that this is something that other people would really be trying to seek or look for.
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I'm also surprised that there are votes to option 1 but we all have different preferences when it comes to betting.
If I were the person who votes the first option, it's better for me to donate my money to charity instead of make a bet. Tongue

Haha but first I see inconsistency here. How will someone stake money when he knows that if the outcome is that he won but he won't get any money in return and he will continue to play? Even those in the saying that gambling is for fun will not continue. So the answer is no. I won't play if the mode is on no payment if you win, gambling is not only tied with fun or fulfillment but you gamble for money and staking your money without the expectation of money is like cooking food without adding salt to it.
Yeah, it's not make sense at all since you're not gaining anything.

It's really different with a charity fight where the reward will be donated to charity, even the players or teams didn't earn anything, they still get respects or fames from people. It will make them become more popular and have an opportunity to earn money.

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January 29, 2024, 03:43:08 PM
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a bet must always have an advantage... it must always offer something. if it doesn't offer money... What does it offer in exchange of taking the risk?
if it doesn't offer anything it's no longer a bet... in my opinion it's very simple reasoning...

Sure, because it's something that makes all gamblers interested in getting in and getting involved, we and they can't lie to ourselves that if there were no monetary winnings in gambling then obviously the number of people interested would be very small or even nonexistent, the point is that what makes gambling interesting is because there is an object that everyone really needs which is money and because gambling provides an opportunity for anyone to win, but we must remember that it is nothing more than a "chance" which means there is no certainty and no guarantee that it can become a reality. I think we already know about the concept of gambling where you bring something to bet on and the casino will give the possibility of odds to everyone involved and bet there, it's quite simple.

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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


This is not gambling if there’s no chance on making of money. We are gambling because of the “chance” even if small to win a profit on a short period of time. It’s a complete waste of money and time to still try on playing a gambling games that will surely make you lose.

We are not gambling to lose and most importantly we will not be entertained if we are losing because there’s no fun on doing it. It’s hypocrisy to its finest to say that they will still play on games that they have a chance to win at all. Same idea with playing skill based game like poker against pro while you literally have zero skills at all to play that game. There’s no fun on losing.

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January 29, 2024, 04:28:44 PM
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So, one question I want to ask is, if games were built to be played with money on casinos like we do now, with absolutely no chances of making money even when you win a game, would you still be spending money playing this games or betting on sports games?


This is not gambling if there’s no chance on making of money. We are gambling because of the “chance” even if small to win a profit on a short period of time. It’s a complete waste of money and time to still try on playing a gambling games that will surely make you lose.

We are not gambling to lose and most importantly we will not be entertained if we are losing because there’s no fun on doing it. It’s hypocrisy to its finest to say that they will still play on games that they have a chance to win at all. Same idea with playing skill based game like poker against pro while you literally have zero skills at all to play that game. There’s no fun on losing.
Yes, I agree with you. It is hypocritical of others to claim that they will bet without expecting anything in return. Although they may receive something, gambling is merely a form of entertainment, and I respect their decision to keep playing even though there is no chance of winning. When you consider it, though, it's incredibly hypocritical since, come on, who doesn't like money? I mean, a lot of us desire financial stability, am I right? And the most vital and significant means of survival that humans have in this world is money.
 
I mean, if gambling doesn't even involve money or thrill people, then, in my opinion, it doesn't do much justice. After all, what good is it to gamble if you're just wasting your time and money on pointless things?
In the end, the person in charge of the casino will become wealthier and continue to profit from the players since he will continue to take in money and have it withdrawn. So for me, it's better to spin your money around and play with it than waste it.

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January 29, 2024, 04:44:05 PM
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I don't think I would gamble if there is no chance to get profit, it would undermine the whole purpose of inducing thrill on the gambler and that hooking up feeling so many people want to have while rolling dices or spinning slots.
Even though, we all know we are supposed to gamble just for amusement or fun, it is not a contradiction to also have a little chance to have profits, because someone as a responsible gambler can set their mind before gambling to the fact they could end up losing all their wager and still have a good session.
If there was no chance of profit then the experience would not be better than playing some fake-money casino games, like those I used to play when I was a child, on the Game Boy advance, for example. It was all fake money, but still it was fun.

In the case we talk about here, it would be the same but losing actual money constantly. No thank you. I would rather to find some game boy around and win virtual tokens.  Tongue

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The fact gambling is entertaining is exactly due to the possibility of making profit through this activity. If you remove the chance of making profit entirely, it's not going to be funny anymore for most gamblers, otherwise, most people would play demo mode or free gambling apps from playstore, instead of playing at the real casino platforms. And by saying that, I don't mean people play solely for the chance of making money. There is a set of elements involved, anyway, which make this activity rewarding, even when losing on long term.

For many people it's hard to understand this reasoning, but I believe if they put themselves on more wealthy gamblers, they would understand. Those gamblers aren't playing because they are in urge for money or profit. But they like the idea of playing and having a chance to earn money. If they lose, however, it's not going to be the end of the world, because money isn't an issue for them. So they will leave the casino with less money on their pockets than they came in, but they will also leave satisfied for having some fun while playing the games, interacting with other gamblers, having some drinks or meals.

We don't need to exclude one factor from gambling to remain solely with another. Both (chance of profit and fun) are complementary.

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