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Title: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: alani123 on January 26, 2024, 10:51:55 PM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Oshosondy on January 26, 2024, 10:57:25 PM
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
Seriously? The one that I know of that happened to someone that I know was about football fixed matches. Two matches for over 20 odds and he lost the two matches. I told him not to pay the money but he did not listen.

Can people be so foolish to believe in something like this about casinos that are just based on luck and no way the games can be in a way to favour the gambler. It is definitely a scam.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: wheelz1200 on January 26, 2024, 11:22:14 PM
Paying anyone for a tip on what to bet is ALWAYS a scam.  If the person really knew then why wouldn't they just do it themselves.  Paying someone for slot tips is wild.  Slots are random and known to have some pretty bad odds.  People play them for entertainment then fine but trying to beat the house on slots is not gonna end well.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: panganib999 on January 26, 2024, 11:24:05 PM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
If you’re seeing these ads in particular within bitcointalk, I’m guessing you should move this topic to Scam Accusations or at the very least in Reputation. It brings the topic to an audience that is more likely to consider it a serious pickle than if you would’ve just kept it here.

If it’s outside, best that I could really recommend to you is getting an adblocker that also blocks popup ads like that. I’m sorry but the thing is that these kinds of scams work because there are people who fall for it. Proper information campaigns can only go so far and while prevention is almost always better than the cure, there’s not much you can do at this point besides setting an adblocker if you really wanna prevent yourself from falling for these scams.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: alani123 on January 26, 2024, 11:28:04 PM
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
Seriously? The one that I know of that happened to someone that I know was about football fixed matches. Two matches for over 20 odds and he lost the two matches. I told him not to pay the money but he did not listen.

Can people be so foolish to believe in something like this about casinos that are just based on luck and no way the games can be in a way to favour the gambler. It is definitely a scam.
Honestly it's very weird to be seeing these outright scams as ads on major social media websites like Instagram and Facebook.
It's no wonder META is one of the very few profitable social media companies given that they accept every unethical advertisement that can exist.

On the other hand, sure some blames falls on the people too.
We should all be inquisitive and look into where we're going to put money into.
On the one hand, yes fixed matches can exist. But it's very unlikely to just stumble upon it on the internet.
And even if you do, it's unlikely that it's real. The cost of opportunity is just too great and impossible to verify these things unless they give you a freebie, which, why would they?
It's a similar situation honestly. In either case you won't get what you're promised.
But also loaded slots are an impossibility.

If you’re seeing these ads in particular within bitcointalk, I’m guessing you should move this topic to Scam
Na, these ads are everywhere on Instagram.
Can't be bothered to create a scam accusation against every single one of the profiles creating them. They'll just make new profiles.
I think it's just best to have a discussion to see what others think of the issue.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: CryptSafe on January 26, 2024, 11:40:07 PM
I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: PX-Z on January 26, 2024, 11:50:04 PM
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
It sounds like that these are same people offering their trading signals that will make "you" good in trading and get more profits if you follow them. Lmao.
Seriously, anything that tells you that you will earn more money and ask you money in exchange for that, it is scam no ifs and no buts.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 26, 2024, 11:58:42 PM
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
It sounds like these people offering their trading signals that will make "you" good in trading and get more profits if you follow them. Lmao. Seriously, anything that tells you that you will earn money and ask you money in exchange for that, it is scam no ifs and no buts.

those are baits for naive individuals who think that they can really get a lump sum of money just by spending little to no money. people need to learn their lessons fast. and most definitely, they will wake up to the reality of things once they suffer heavy damage in their financials. do remember, scammers will always find a way how to screw gullible people over the net. as they don't care what will happen to your funds, they will just siphon it as much as they can, and disappear without a trace.

I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.

those offering such service are more then likely scammers. trying to trick users because of the promise of easy money. anyway, they will soon find out that such promise is too-good-to-be-true. but usually, it is already too late as some may have shell out some of their hard-earned money already. sometimes you just need common sense just to feel that something wrong is about to happen.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: CryptSafe on January 27, 2024, 03:33:44 AM

I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.

those offering such service are more then likely scammers. trying to trick users because of the promise of easy money. anyway, they will soon find out that such promise is too-good-to-be-true. but usually, it is already too late as some may have shell out some of their hard-earned money already. sometimes you just need common sense just to feel that something wrong is about to happen.

I will have no doubt to agreeing with your idea that most or majority of those rendering such services are scammers pretend to be giving game signals for tokens and they ends up losing their money to scammers who have no idea what they are doing. Some of them are not what they say they are but rather just some sort of hyping to get at people. One thing I have come to realise is that people who are always desperate like them too and do not do their own due diligence are the ones that falls for such scam without knowing
.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Ultegra134 on January 27, 2024, 06:12:27 AM
If something sounds too good to be true, then it probably is. This is the first time I'm hearing about this. I've always heard about so-called insiders about fixed matches, but this is something new. Why would someone sell such a "secret" when he could take full advantage of it? This sounds like the new era of so-called entrepreneurs on social media, boasting about how much money they're making, and they can teach you how to do that too, by paying a "small" subscription or signing-up bonus to justify the "lessons and training" you're about to receive. No way. If I had found the passage to make quick and easy money, I wouldn't share it with anyone.

These scammers never cease to amaze me in finding new ways to earn money.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Kliss on January 27, 2024, 06:27:39 AM
Op You're absolutely right, It's crucial to raise awareness about scams, especially in the context of gambling. This particular scam you mentioned has been around for a long time, even back when slot machines were physical coin-operated machines. It's unfortunate that it has made a resurgence with scammed ads and promotions.

It's important to remember that slot machines, whether physical or virtual, are based on chance alone. There's no such thing as a "loaded" slot machine that guarantees sure wins. It's all about luck! If you come across someone who believes in this false notion, it's essential to educate them and dispel the mistaken belief.

Gambling should always be done in a good and informed manner. Being aware of scams and understanding the nature of chance in gambling is key.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: len01 on January 27, 2024, 07:07:57 AM
very often I see cases like this on social media as you have said they give everything to try to give confidence to the adverts and strangely enough one of my friends was fooled by the advert and I told my friend that he was a fool who I know because it is easy to be fooled by advertisements like that with the promise of winning in a certain game and having to deposit a certain amount but in fact the loser loses all the money.
something even more ridiculous I experienced from myself, there are lots of similar advertisements or promotions but maybe most of the audience already knows about this type of fraud and one day I got lots of messages from one of my social media giving the exact same offer as you said and there are also those who offer to register on a certain site using a certain deposit amount and promise to give me a win of at least 3000x in a certain slot game.

this is ridiculous in the era of technological development, many gambling scams are exploited by fraudsters to make money instantly but by deceiving other people.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on January 27, 2024, 07:09:25 AM
That scams are very common in the game business, especially when old tricks are used in new ways, needs to be noted. It's been decades since people's hopes and lack of knowledge were used to fuel theories about a "loaded slot machine" or secret ways to win.

Real or virtual, all slot machines use random number generators (RNGs) to make sure that every spin is random. There are ways to change the outcome of these games without using secret information or hard-to-understand tactics.

Slots players should remember that these con artists need to learn more about how to trick people, especially those who use online deals and ads. It's important to fight these false beliefs and let people know that gambling is always dangerous and has no guarantees of winning.

Giving people honest information about how gambling works and encouraging them to bet responsibly can help them avoid falling for these kinds of scams. Having conversations and sharing information about these problems can help everyone in the gambling area.




Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 27, 2024, 07:30:43 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

        -    I just found out about the story you're talking about, mate. Is what you're talking about only applicable to physical slot games? Why online is that also possible, mate? I think that doesn't apply to online casinos but only to physical slot machines, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Because I have never experienced anything like that in slot games here in crypto gambling, to be honest, like what you are talking about, mate. Maybe we gamblers should be careful, if ever, and we should always consider that we should be risk-takers as gamblers in this field of crypto business.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Wexnident on January 27, 2024, 08:02:55 AM
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Naturally. I think anyone who works in a development team would know that the code behind each thing we make goes under review multiple times so even if someone wanted to maliciously insert code that can increase their chances if say, a specific key was inputted, it wouldn't pass review. Especially in cases like casinos I think? Since they deal with random numbers plus their services are offered to countless users that bring in countless amount of money.

Imagine the fall of a casino's reputation if they were to use a game that has loopholes like that. Not even unintentional loopholes made by bugs, but rather loopholes made by the devs themselves. At that point I would not trust jack of whatever the casino says about their services, I'd immediately switch to a new one.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Davidvictorson on January 27, 2024, 08:04:01 AM
This is in fact the first time read about this and I do not blame myself for not knowing this because I play slot more online than offline. There's just so much in the slot world that we do not know about, so thank you.

There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
Whenever anyone asks you to pay for something to get a secret information or be the first in the group to get it so you 10x whatever you have, any sensible person would easily tell that that is an outright scam.

In fact, when in doubt, ignore them. If you can't report them to the appropriate authorities. The person can also ask for another more experienced person to look at it. Nothing and no strategy can change a casino's programming. The moment the gambler clicks on spin or starts the slot game, the result is already determined.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: blckhawk on January 27, 2024, 08:23:17 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
Totally agree on this one, there should be like a thread that will eventually become a mega thread that lists all the scams that casino does be it physical or online one, that way people are constantly reminded and that they know that such a scam exist and that way we prevent people from falling from it and at the least a way to disseminate information so at the least people know. Maybe the reason that there's no thread like that yet is because sometimes if not all the time, the way to prevent yourself from becoming a victim of these scams is to have a common sense so if that's the case then I can understand why the thread hasn't existed yet.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
It's not a myth when you've given us the etymology of the term and that it's literally a loaded slot machine that gives out larger prizes. Don't really need to be educate if we want to gamble, just don't do what other tells you to do and read the room that you're in and you can be sure that you're going to be doing fine. Instinct over education for me when it comes to gambling.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: bitbollo on January 27, 2024, 08:29:50 AM
Loaded machine is an oxymoron for virtual casino. There are some casinos that have the option to show their RTP (in some cases is an advantage for the player) but this not means that rewards are guaranteed.
However, if the casino has no claiming on this activity, I will not call this as "scam"... people that know how games works are pretty aware of that... or I am missing something?


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: yahoo62278 on January 27, 2024, 09:24:24 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
I think someone might have been saying you have to be "loaded" to play slots. That term could refer to being super rich or it could mean be super drunk. I say super drunk cause slots are what pays the casinos bills. Noone ever wins long term and you are correct, it's 100% luck not skill. No method can guarantee anything on a slot. Not live, not online.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Woodie on January 27, 2024, 09:42:04 AM
I think when you search youtube for content relating to how to play or win slots, then you are likely going to run into such videos on YouTube showing people how to win jackpots and what not....

One video that caught my eye, this YouTuber claims you have to play a certain slot game at a certain time, and claims he always hits winners and goes on to say you need to pay to get this winning info which really doesn't sit well with me as this screams scam especially that its right there for all to see that his money is in these subscriptions as far as I know.

Otherwise reading what's in the OP just gave me a reason to stick with sport.. as Slots are so much based on luck and you can't always win...


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 27, 2024, 09:42:44 AM
Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
That's too good to be true tbh and I think only newbies would surely fall on that. If you already played any slots online before you'll notice that it's no different than any physical casino will offer, it's a game of chance. I don't think they could persuade regular gambler to fall for this outright scam, they'll surely not unless you're that desperate to make some quick gains.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: AbuBhakar on January 27, 2024, 09:48:04 AM

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.


It’s simple logic to analyze this scam. If they knew what machine that will pay then why they didn’t try it by themselves instead of selling it to other user that will give huge profit. Also there’s no way to determine what machine will gonna pay because it’s using an RNG for the result so every game is random and independent.

This kind of scam is very obvious to spot. I will be more cautious on slot game providers scam that not declaring the right RTP rather than this clown that promise sure win on a gambling.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 27, 2024, 10:00:16 AM
It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
Yeah, but this could be in the early days of slots machines wherein everyone is trying to figure it out how to beat the machine and so they come up with different ideas and scenario. But as slot games operators has evolved it's very hard to beat the system right now as it is based on randomness and everyone should rely on pure luck alone. Another misconceptions that we could be heard is the "cold" or "hot" machines. In reality though, each spin is independent and unrelated to previous outcomes, so this is just another gamblers fallacy. So yeah, this loaded slot machine are scams although I haven't heard any advertisement, and this might just be going underground or being propagated maybe in some obscure online platform.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Hispo on January 27, 2024, 12:03:55 PM
I believe I had read about this kind of scam before, it is a old one. Though, I was not aware of people nowadays trying to scam people by offering alledged privileged information on slots, in exchange of money; and to be honest it does not make sense to me someone with such information would want to give it away for some money, because knowing the inflation would be more than enough to guarantee earning thousands from the casino, until the started to suspect someone fishy is going on. People who fall for that kind of scam do not use their common sense at all.

Another scam I have seen on internet about is only related to brick and mortar casinos: the fake chip scam. It is commonly targeted to tourists in Las Vegas or in other cities known for their gambling industry. Basically, an stranger approaches tourists and tell them he has got a lot of money in casino chips but since he is banned from the casino he cannot step in and get his cash, so ask for the help of the tourists, the victims get tricked into giving the scammer a few thousands as colateral while they go and exchange much more than left in colateral, when the tourist reach the gambling floor and are told their chips are fake, the scammer has already disappeared with their cash.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: bhadz on January 27, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
There are a lot of scams accusations on that particular section but there's not that much interest on it because some are plainly specific not to the game but to the casino that have caused them ruckus. And as for those secretive information about these games, whether it's with slots or any other. When they ask you specific money in return of that info, you should take notice of it as a red flag. There is no need for you to think twice because if they truly are a secret and makes them money, they should have used it first and benefit from it financially.



Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: _act_ on January 27, 2024, 12:19:42 PM
That's too good to be true tbh and I think only newbies would surely fall on that. If you already played any slots online before you'll notice that it's no different than any physical casino will offer, it's a game of chance. I don't think they could persuade regular gambler to fall for this outright scam, they'll surely not unless you're that desperate to make some quick gains.
This is what I also think. That some people that do not gamble can hear about it and be a victim of slot scam offer. Anyone that has been gambling online or offline on casinos will not hear a outt his and be a victim. But sometimes people can be very stupid and only think of what could bring them money and not finding out if truly it can. Before they will know they are scammed already. They can play the game and lose and also pay the scammer money. That is two losses at a time.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: coin-investor on January 27, 2024, 12:23:15 PM

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

A gambler worth his salt knows that this is fake and an attempt to scam people, it's not only slot we have seen so many ads that are too good to be true we have one here advertising in this forum that he has a guaranteed winning formula.
I do have winning casino crypto formula with 200% profit per month,any interest? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482406.0)

If this is true, why not claim the loaded slots instead of selling them? This scammer preys on newbies who are unaware of the odds on slots. If you become greedy, you will likely fall. If there are ads like that, it's better to post them in the scam section for awareness and to tag these people so they cannot harm newbies here in Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Beparanf on January 27, 2024, 12:32:42 PM
I think someone might have been saying you have to be "loaded" to play slots. That term could refer to being super rich or it could mean be super drunk. I say super drunk cause slots are what pays the casinos bills. Noone ever wins long term and you are correct, it's 100% luck not skill. No method can guarantee anything on a slot. Not live, not online.

Precisely, Even more that we are considering here physical slots which has a worst RTP compared to online slot games. I have a terrible experience playing on this kind of slot games.

I watch some of influencers playing this physical slot games and trying to hype it but I don’t understand why they keep playing while they are losing huge amount of money and the only max win they can get is just x2 of their bankroll. Another laughable thing is you will need to call a customer assistance once you win an amount greater than 1Grand.  :D


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Blitzboy on January 27, 2024, 04:40:24 PM
I fully agree with your warning about "loaded slots" scams. I always wonder how frauds have evolved with technology. These techniques havent stopped since switching to digital slot machines; its just changed their presentation.

Through talks and observations, I've found that myths like these survive because they exploit a universal desire: a shortcut to success. So, remember that the only guarantee in games of chance is unpredictability. I constantly tell friends and forum members that understanding the odds is crucial to gambling for fun, not profit.

Promote an educated attitude to gambling to build a community that values fun and awareness above false hope. Debunking misconceptions like "loaded slots," protects our money and leisure activities. Lets talk, exchange stories, and most importantly, help each other navigate gambling with understanding and prudence. Indeed, informed gambling is the most fun.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: swogerino on January 27, 2024, 04:48:33 PM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

As you say it yourself there is no such thing as loaded slots.At first I used to believe that too as in some casinos,reputable ones tell you the percentage of money or RTP that the slot is currently in.I used to choose slots that had a 63% monthly meaning that slot had eaten a lot of money and should pay out.The reality was completely different from my expectation and the slots never paid out meaning the concept of loaded slot is just a myth and people wanting to scam now are capitalizing on this myth in order to cheat newbies.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: the rise on January 27, 2024, 04:51:44 PM
If the secret information on how to win is also a scam, how could he possibly sell that information, it's better for him to take direct steps to play and use the techniques he has, isn't that an instant way for him to get money, it can't be trusted at all. , and in the slot game too I think it's just a random spin that no one can predict


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Juse14 on January 27, 2024, 04:54:38 PM
There is no such thing as a guarantee of victory given to gamblers, that by playing a certain type of gambling you will immediately get a fairly large win. Everything is just a possibility and the possibility of losing is greater than the possibility of winning. Moreover, when talking about slot gambling, this is a type of gambling that is specifically designed to be more profitable for casino owners and the biggest income of a casino, for the most part, is generated from slot gambling played by its visitors. And I think all slot players already know this... so I don't think the casino is committing fraud at all. They are just too stupid... they already know that the chances of winning in slot gambling are very small, but they just keep playing and making deposits. And you need to remember that gambling is created as a means of getting entertainment and pleasure, not making a profit. and a casino can be considered to have committed a criminal act of fraud, that is when someone ends up winning a fairly large prize, then the casino does not give the prize. Or when the user makes a deposit, but the balance at the casino is still empty.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: alani123 on January 27, 2024, 09:56:16 PM
If the secret information on how to win is also a scam, how could he possibly sell that information, it's better for him to take direct steps to play and use the techniques he has, isn't that an instant way for him to get money, it can't be trusted at all. , and in the slot game too I think it's just a random spin that no one can predict
Well the thing is, there's no technique in slots.
Some gamblers might come to actually believe that certain slots games might be "loaded" and ready to give out more winnings than others. Surely that sounds more plausible. It might have even be true at some point in history with certain machines. But for sure it's not how slots work now.
So it's just another scammy practice to part people from their funds.

One important thing to remember about scams, is that they don't have to be sophisticated or smart in order to work.
Scamers will sometimes make mistakes with the specific purpose of weeding out smart people, in order not to waste their time with smarter people.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: iv4n on January 27, 2024, 10:10:57 PM
...So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all.

This term, or we can call it a myth, was very popular in land-based casinos. I think we had a thread or two with a similar question, and the answer is still the same, this is just a myth nowadays. Before, the early and mid-90s when I played in small casinos with slot and poker machines it was a big deal to play on a "loaded machine". That means that someone lost a lot of money playing a specific machine, so anyone who sits after that can be a big winner. But keep in mind that old machines had a different set-up, and special device to program how much that machine can give. Today machines are different, and when it comes to playing online it's almost impossible to apply this to an RNG program!!!

Things were different 20-30 years ago... and many people, including me, believed in this myth. But nowadays with the new technology, this is not possible, we all depend on pure luck when it comes to playing slots!


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Strongkored on January 28, 2024, 07:04:18 AM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins. ner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
I am sure that if there is someone who really knows the secret of winning at slots and it is guaranteed to work well, that person will not make money by telling the trick as long as they pay him, because if he places a big bet, the money he will get is much bigger than advertising to get people who are willing to pay for the tricks he will share, and the steps he makes will only make the slot provider know the weaknesses of the game and will start making adjustments so that they can still make a profit.
People who sell tricks for anything are people who realize how difficult it is to make money so they start scamming in a way that looks better, but those who think well can detect that this is a form of scam, like people who sell trading signals.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Hirose UK on January 28, 2024, 07:27:04 AM
~snip~
Well the thing is, there's no technique in slots.
Some gamblers might come to actually believe that certain slots games might be "loaded" and ready to give out more winnings than others. Surely that sounds more plausible. It might have even be true at some point in history with certain machines. But for sure it's not how slots work now.
So it's just another scammy practice to part people from their funds.

One important thing to remember about scams, is that they don't have to be sophisticated or smart in order to work.
Scamers will sometimes make mistakes with the specific purpose of weeding out smart people, in order not to waste their time with smarter people.
I agree with what you said, but honestly, I myself would not consider all of this in slot games to be fraudulent practices because slot game providers build and develop them for business and of course this business is to make money.
We understand that slots are game of luck but on the other hand, thinking this is fraudulent practice is also not correct, we must be able to accept and understand that everything in slot games works based on algorithms based on random numbers.
No gambler can truly guess or beat the algorithm in a casino game, especially slots, and of course we as gamblers will only rely on luck as support to achieve win.
We can learn from lottery betting, lottery is type of bet that has random numbers in each output and we can only bet on the lucky numbers that we have and that we believe can win.
Isn't all this true and indeed this is gambling where the gambler has guarantee of bigger losses.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: davis196 on January 28, 2024, 07:39:15 AM
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But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

I've never seen such ads. Where did you see ads about this scam? I don't think that gambling ads are allowed on most social media platforms.
Are you sure that virtual slots games are based on chance alone? I've always been suspicious about slots/dice/crash games being totally fair.
Such stupid scams will exist forever. There are people, who claim that if you pay them X amount of money, they will cast a spell on you, so that you could magically gain luck and start winning at gambling games. Dumb scams will keep existing as long as there are dumb people, who are falling into such scams.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: danherbias07 on January 28, 2024, 08:06:33 AM
That's not going to happen with online gambling. It's true, it's all about chance. Even if one user plays 10 thousand rounds in one slot game, it doesn't mean the next guy who plays that game will get the jackpot faster. There are maybe hundreds of players that are playing the same game and one of them could get that even on his first try or the last try.

It's truly a scam and I don't think there should be victims of this kind of evil attempt. I mean, it's just stupid to believe that kind of shit.
There's a different system for online slots gambling and I don't believe 100 percent that its ways are the same as the physical machine.
IMO, this is actually a bad scam attempt, whoever did this must be joking around or he is just stupid to think that someone would bite this kind of trap.
I could've believed it more if they found a "server seed" who wins a lot of times in slots. I think that is how they separate one player from another so there's no way two people will share one.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: moneystery on January 28, 2024, 08:15:28 AM
if there is a service that offers someone the opportunity to increase their chances of winning at slots by paying them a certain amount of money, why can't that service just keep all that opportunity for themselves? why should they offer that to anyone else? from this alone, someone should suspect that the service is just a scam. because it is clear that slots are a game of chance and it depends entirely on the luck of the gambler. no matter how a gambler sets a strategy to win at slots, it all still depends on the algorithm of the game.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: junder on January 28, 2024, 01:20:11 PM
It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
Yeah, but this could be in the early days of slots machines wherein everyone is trying to figure it out how to beat the machine and so they come up with different ideas and scenario. But as slot games operators has evolved it's very hard to beat the system right now as it is based on randomness and everyone should rely on pure luck alone. Another misconceptions that we could be heard is the "cold" or "hot" machines. In reality though, each spin is independent and unrelated to previous outcomes, so this is just another gamblers fallacy. So yeah, this loaded slot machine are scams although I haven't heard any advertisement, and this might just be going underground or being propagated maybe in some obscure online platform.

In my opinion, many people try to beat slot machines, even though it seems almost impossible to happen. because in my opinion, if they try their best to beat the slot machine, it will only be a waste of their energy. and with their principles like that, I think it will only put them at the point of irritation and big losses. because in my opinion slot machines cannot be beaten by gamblers who are just players.

It's true what you said, gamblers can only rely on pure luck to win at slot gambling. Sometimes I see sites that provide RTP as a reference for winning, and there are also some people who really believe in this. but I myself don't believe that because I don't think it has any effect at all. also with the large number of people who believe in the patterns and tricks provided in my opinion they have been poisoned by gambling, because in my opinion all of these are just withdrawal tricks so that they are sure they can get big wins at gambling.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 28, 2024, 03:01:59 PM
This can only be believed by fools or those who are just novices about the whole slot system, no one knows what will happen with the outcome, not even the house if it is provably fair play. The slot machine will only function based on what was programmed in it, and if it is your luck to shine on a faithful day, then that be it. But not believing that someone has the key and knows what will actually be the results of the slot play, that is not what any reasonable person should even think about not to talk of believing it. This is more reason why we have to be well-informed about gambling before we are actually playing it, which would avoid some kind of myths that can still leak out money from our pocket through scams. But if anyone will still go ahead to believe such a story after learning and being fully aware of how the slot game works, then such a person can only be termed a dummy.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 04, 2024, 08:40:34 AM
I just found out about the story you're talking about, mate. Is what you're talking about only applicable to physical slot games? Why online is that also possible, mate? I think that doesn't apply to online casinos but only to physical slot machines, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Because I have never experienced anything like that in slot games here in crypto gambling, to be honest, like what you are talking about, mate. Maybe we gamblers should be careful, if ever, and we should always consider that we should be risk-takers as gamblers in this field of crypto business.
Same here mate, it was only my first time hearing it here but the scheme seems familiar to the ones I saw online. It is when there are jackpots. It's been a long time I play on different casinos but their jackpot amounts are still the same. Some only grow continuously.

This is one of the reason on why many people still tries their luck, thinking they can hit them one day and that can dramatically change their lives. But, I doubt that. I can only feel sorry for them. But it's great that there is such thread as this. This would be an eye-opener to them. As long as we play real gambling, there is a risk. So it's important to only use the money we can afford to lose.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Fortify on February 04, 2024, 09:18:14 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

There is nothing particularly sophisticated in this scam, it just leads back to the old adage - a fool and his money are easily parted. Anyone who uses just a little bit of common sense would determine that what you've described is complete and utter rubbish. You have really got to be desperate and suspend all rational thinking in order to go along with something like this. Like with many things in life, just stick to a few ideas like "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" and "Why if this is such a successful and money making endeavor, would someone be selling this magical trick and not milking it for every penny themselves?". Honestly, it's such a dumb concept that people who lose money to it might need to be taught that lesson the hard way, because it's the only way they will learn - with a painful memory.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: traderethereum on February 04, 2024, 09:21:34 AM
We don't need to trust someone who claims they can provide some confidential information about slot games. We cannot expect to win in gambling, especially in online casinos. We can only gamble and enjoy it.
If we believe the myth and send some money to find out the secret, we have already been deceived by their offer. And instead of sending money to them, it's better to use it for gambling.
We will not regret it if we lose at gambling rather than losing money because we were deceived by those who offered the secret.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Ever-young on February 04, 2024, 09:24:28 AM
I have received some notification on relation to similar scam, where someone message me on telegram and tell me about cheat on slot game and how l can benefit from it if I can just pay to enter their premium telegram group where they will be given members access to how they can win from slot with any little amount they enter with.

I was just surprise if it was for a games like football and other sport games which they can claim they know how to predict it I could have given it a little listening ear and not slot game where I’m convince and know that the result is base on RNG which even if you study it very well you can’t always be right.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Rufsilf on February 04, 2024, 09:46:41 AM
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
It is sad to say, but scams are a reality in this world, not only when it comes to gambling but also when it comes to jobs and other activities where we engage in deception. For example, there are those who willfully deceive others in order to live and get personal gain at the expense of others. As humans, we are prone to believing stories from others without verifying them, thus, I expect that this too good to be true will occur. Of course, scammers frequently prey on people's trust and vulnerabilities by taking advantage of their desire for quick cash rewards. When we give it some thought, we find that most slot machines are dependent on random chance and do not always pay out consistently. If we engage in such schemes, then it may result in our financial loss and disappointment because the information that is offered is probably false or ineffective.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: boty on February 04, 2024, 10:19:39 AM
We don't need to trust someone who claims they can provide some confidential information about slot games. We cannot expect to win in gambling, especially in online casinos. We can only gamble and enjoy it.
If we believe the myth and send some money to find out the secret, we have already been deceived by their offer. And instead of sending money to them, it's better to use it for gambling.
We will not regret it if we lose at gambling rather than losing money because we were deceived by those who offered the secret.
That's right, we don't have to believe it if someone says they will provide a way to win slot gambling in the way they provide because it is impossible for what they say to happen correctly, only luck can win gambling like slots, yes it would be better we gamble and enjoy it and don't have to listen to what other people say.

If they use the method of asking for money and providing ways to win the game of course they don't have the winnings they get so they have to cheat other people so they can get money to gamble, I agree with you if we are better off using the money to gamble and if we lose we We won't regret it because we used our own predictions, but if we use their advice and lose, this will certainly be very disappointing.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: swogerino on February 04, 2024, 10:27:43 AM
We don't need to trust someone who claims they can provide some confidential information about slot games. We cannot expect to win in gambling, especially in online casinos. We can only gamble and enjoy it.
If we believe the myth and send some money to find out the secret, we have already been deceived by their offer. And instead of sending money to them, it's better to use it for gambling.
We will not regret it if we lose at gambling rather than losing money because we were deceived by those who offered the secret.
That's right, we don't have to believe it if someone says they will provide a way to win slot gambling in the way they provide because it is impossible for what they say to happen correctly, only luck can win gambling like slots, yes it would be better we gamble and enjoy it and don't have to listen to what other people say.

If they use the method of asking for money and providing ways to win the game of course they don't have the winnings they get so they have to cheat other people so they can get money to gamble, I agree with you if we are better off using the money to gamble and if we lose we We won't regret it because we used our own predictions, but if we use their advice and lose, this will certainly be very disappointing.

Slot providers tell us that each spin is independent of each other and I tend to believe it as very few times but it has happened to me to get the bonus feature two spins in a row which for me confirms that each spin is independent of each other.Of course this does not mean that you can get two max wins in a row because that is designed by the slot provider has made an approximate number of spins to be done before you hit the max win.That is all and there is no loaded or unloaded slots.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Solosanz on February 04, 2024, 10:51:54 AM
This is nothing new, I think the new scam is related to signing under a gambling promoter's refs or gamble using superstitions will increase the chance to win. People might not lose any money, but scam is still scam even though it's not involved with money.

It is sad to say, but scams are a reality in this world, not only when it comes to gambling but also when it comes to jobs and other activities where we engage in deception. For example, there are those who willfully deceive others in order to live and get personal gain at the expense of others.
You can report them to authority, but make sure you're not live in a corrupted country. ;)


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Assface16678 on February 04, 2024, 02:29:45 PM
Well, yeah, a physical slot machine can be rigged, which is a scam, but are you sure the digital or online slot machines are not rigged either? Yes, let's say the casino complies with their rights to operate and follow the laws, but it can also be helpful that an online casino is programmed by people, so what is the guarantee that an online slot machine is not a scam or rather will give a winner to the gamblers? That's why I don't do slot machines, whether online or physically, because the chances of winning are too low, and I don't want to waste money on that. As the OP said about those scams that offer services, or, let's say, something so that you could win in gambling, if you believe this and spend money on it, then you're an idiot, but it can't be help  if youal are too desperate to win money out of gambling and its your own fault.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: iv4n on February 04, 2024, 03:40:10 PM
Well, yeah, a physical slot machine can be rigged, which is a scam, but are you sure the digital or online slot machines are not rigged either?

The "loaded slot" is not a scam, it's more like a myth. It's a belief that we feed ourselves. That feeling exists in other games as well, the feeling that some big multiplier is coming after a long time, like x100/x1000 is near... In slots, that feeling is more pronounced, at least for me, after 50-100 spins I have the feeling that the bonus round is close and that the bonus round will be very profitable. It happened that the bonus really came and was very profitable. But a lot more times the bonus came and didn't give anything, or didn't come at all.

We all feel different things when we gamble, sometimes we are too positive or too negative, or however we feel. But all these feelings can and often do deceive us. It does not necessarily mean that something is a scam if we expect too much and get nothing.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Slow death on February 04, 2024, 03:47:55 PM
Unfortunately, the internet has become a paradise for scammers, because they know that the internet is the only place in the world where they can steal and lie and not be easily caught. Unlike mixers that are targets of governments and governments put a lot of effort and spend a lot of financial and human resources to catch the owner of the mixer, governments don't go after casinos, nor do they go after hyip ponzi sites. but they keep chasing cryptocurrency exchanges. so scammers can create scam casinos, scam games that no one will arrest them. The only thing that every person should do before creating accounts at a casino and playing some strange game is that the person should do research beforehand and very carefully

and when the person detects signs of scam, then the person must post it here on the forum. One of the most effective ways to combat scams is whenever everyone finds a scam site on the internet, they expose that scam site here on the forum. This reduces the risk of many people using the scam site. This is how this forum managed to stop the many advertisements for hyip ponzi sites in that other gambling section, the scammers felt that no one here will believe in their ponzi sites and stopped posting their hyip ponzi scam sites every day . This can also be seen with casinos, which is why in my opinion when someone sees a casino scam on the internet, they should open a scam accusation in the appropriate section, this alerts many people


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Beparanf on February 04, 2024, 03:57:25 PM
Well, yeah, a physical slot machine can be rigged, which is a scam, but are you sure the digital or online slot machines are not rigged either? Yes, let's say the casino complies with their rights to operate and follow the laws, but it can also be helpful that an online casino is programmed by people, so what is the guarantee that an online slot machine is not a scam or rather will give a winner to the gamblers? That's why I don't do slot machines, whether online or physically, because the chances of winning are too low, and I don't want to waste money on that. As the OP said about those scams that offer services, or, let's say, something so that you could win in gambling, if you believe this and spend money on it, then you're an idiot, but it can't be help  if youal are too desperate to win money out of gambling and its your own fault.

If this your belief then you should not gamble in general since most of the gambling games is based on trust. Any gambling games can be rigged other than slot games. There’s a lot of video available in the web that other casino practicing cheat even on table games like roulette and blackjack.

Online casino games doesn’t disclose their source code while most of the live games have a part which can be cheat. So it’s up to the player if they will trust the provider or not but Casino has an advantage against players without cheating due to the house edge so they don’t need to resort to bad practice just to gain profit.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: crwth on February 04, 2024, 04:17:00 PM
Those "believers" that make things to make it bearable to continue to gamble? Those are just things that make up the gambling world with deceit and make you feel like you have a chance. I think the modern world needs to have an understanding of how they could be done but in general, there's no such thing as just the edge of the casino. Maybe they just want the feel of winning and that they have somehow a chance for it.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2024, 05:18:36 PM
I would believe that there are certain physical slots wherein payouts are incoming. This is something that I've learned from old heads who used to operate and maintain these machines. Idk if that kind of thing is still implemented in the latest machines on casinos, but those slot machines will almost certainly give out a kind of jackpot to the players who played at that particular time.

I believe it doesn't go similarly to online casinos. Even if it does, there's no way of keeping track of how many games were played and how much were wagered at a specific time frame so you can't just time it and play when you think it's going to drop some wins on you.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: uneng on February 04, 2024, 05:32:41 PM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
Will they give you some secret informations regards which virtual slot machines to play? Well, if we were talking about land based casinos, it would make more sense, as physical machines are more prone to be frauded, since they don't have the provably fair mechanism enabled and each of them can be configured manually in different manners. There was even the belief depending the hour of the day some machines rewarded more than others, so there were gamblers analyzing which machines they should be playing at, depending the time of the day.

However, someone must be too naive to pay a random stranger on the internet who supposely promises to reveal secret informations about what slots they should play, since there are hundreds or thousands of players betting simultaneously at the same slots' games on the internet. In theory, everyone should be winning together at some moment of the day. And if they are talking about land based casinos, it's not a great scam scheme either, since it's hard to reach customers of a specific casino with their "hot" informations.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Rruchi man on February 04, 2024, 05:33:07 PM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.  
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
There are two sets of people that will fall victims to this we have the desperate people and then the greedy people in gambling.

Desperate people will be victims to this because they have lost so much and are just looking for ways to win as compensation at least for the many losses that they have handled, so when this kind of information comes to them, they really want to believe it is true and will want to try.

Greedy people have not lost much, may not have even gambled but because they hear this kind of information, they see it as a way to make easy money, so they are easy to convince and quick to pay these scammers.  Be a gambler, but do not be desperate and greedy at the same time.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: topbitcoin on February 04, 2024, 06:47:47 PM
Each type of gambling has its own scheme and rules, and when we talk about the type of slot gambling, this is a type of gambling that is deliberately programmed to provide maximum results to the casino owner, because the casino's biggest income is from slot games.

In contrast to other types of betting, such as card gambling or sports betting, when playing this type of gambling (slots) we are not really required to have special knowledge, experience and skills. We only need to know the rules of the game, because playing it is quite simple, you only need to press the spin button on your cellphone screen. However, it is important to remember that in carrying out this type of gambling, we are required to have good self-control, remembering that even though the way to play this type of gambling is quite simple, this type of gambling carries a fairly high risk of experiencing losses. In playing this type of gambling, there is no specific strategy on how to achieve a win, because this gambling almost entirely depends on the luck factor.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: klidex on February 05, 2024, 05:28:34 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
If you’re seeing these ads in particular within bitcointalk, I’m guessing you should move this topic to Scam Accusations or at the very least in Reputation. It brings the topic to an audience that is more likely to consider it a serious pickle than if you would’ve just kept it here.

If it’s outside, best that I could really recommend to you is getting an adblocker that also blocks popup ads like that. I’m sorry but the thing is that these kinds of scams work because there are people who fall for it. Proper information campaigns can only go so far and while prevention is almost always better than the cure, there’s not much you can do at this point besides setting an adblocker if you really wanna prevent yourself from falling for these scams.
I think if on bitcointalk this would have received a warning from any party because in this forum it is not easy to commit fraud because the majority of users here are smarter than the majority outside this forum, such as on social media who are easily provoked by this kind of fraud, and We have to be careful if we find advertisements or promotions circulating on social media because most of them are just people who want to take advantage of someone's situation and they can make a profit.

Any type of game in gambling is based on chance and luck, no one really knows the secret behind gambling because no one knows these tricks except the owner or bookie himself, even the bookie himself doesn't trust his own employees about gambling tricks because they are worried about it. many people know about it. Yes, if these advertisements appear on your cellphone, it is better to block the advertisements and tell friends around us so that they are not easily fooled by this type of fraud.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: EluguHcman on February 05, 2024, 07:48:59 AM
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.
I was caught by the FALLACY. I dearly agree with you at OP that if we must ride through the gambling, we shouldn't get attracted by the fallacies of how interesting the gambling sites rumours are speculated because it could be a term of marketing strategies to attract its audiences.
But personally, if the Gambling/Casino commissions could take responsible to this fact, then the gambling casinos should be urged not to influence the people about the qualities and offers that are not a reality to their system because they gets the audience aiming at what doesn't exist.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Hanadawa on February 05, 2024, 08:02:25 AM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
I agree with what @topbitcoin said, that every virtual slot games is about your chances of winning the jackpot. And the virtual slot games are designed to provide huge profits for the casino, not the user. So I think it would be very unreasonable if someone believed that by giving someone some money he would get a glimpse of the casino slot system. Every system or algorithm on a slot games has been created and updated regularly to ensure there are no security gaps that can be hacked. So never believe anyone who says they can give you advice about winning bets.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: maydna on February 05, 2024, 01:13:13 PM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
I agree with what @topbitcoin said, that every virtual slot games is about your chances of winning the jackpot. And the virtual slot games are designed to provide huge profits for the casino, not the user. So I think it would be very unreasonable if someone believed that by giving someone some money he would get a glimpse of the casino slot system. Every system or algorithm on a slot games has been created and updated regularly to ensure there are no security gaps that can be hacked. So never believe anyone who says they can give you advice about winning bets.
Yes, it really doesn't make sense if there are people who believe anyone can provide an overview of a casino slot system unless he is one of the developers who makes the slot game. He could provide information that is not released to the public, but I doubt if this can be found easily. The developer will not share company secrets with the public or sell information to people who really want to know about the secrets of slot games. And the system or algorithm of the slot game is always updated regularly so that it will ensure everything is safe from hacking. We also don't need to buy the secret if there are people who claim they know about it.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: klidex on February 06, 2024, 01:50:37 AM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
I agree with what @topbitcoin said, that every virtual slot games is about your chances of winning the jackpot. And the virtual slot games are designed to provide huge profits for the casino, not the user. So I think it would be very unreasonable if someone believed that by giving someone some money he would get a glimpse of the casino slot system. Every system or algorithm on a slot games has been created and updated regularly to ensure there are no security gaps that can be hacked. So never believe anyone who says they can give you advice about winning bets.
Yes, it really doesn't make sense if there are people who believe anyone can provide an overview of a casino slot system unless he is one of the developers who makes the slot game. He could provide information that is not released to the public, but I doubt if this can be found easily. The developer will not share company secrets with the public or sell information to people who really want to know about the secrets of slot games. And the system or algorithm of the slot game is always updated regularly so that it will ensure everything is safe from hacking. We also don't need to buy the secret if there are people who claim they know about it.
It is impossible for someone to know the secrets or opportunity descriptions about casino slot games because if they were really accurate, of course he would use them himself and become a billionaire without having to give the secrets to other people in exchange for a certain amount of money. This is clearly a fraud because the casino cannot possibly leak information or publish the secrets behind the casino games because if the owner does that it would be like destroying his business where people will easily use chance strategies to win large sums of money.

The owner will never sell or provide information even to his employees because this concerns his business, therefore people should not easily believe or be easily tempted by this kind of fraud because they only want to drain your money with information that is invalid and completely useless spend your money because the casino owner maintains strict security on the site so it is not easy for hackers to hack it.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 06, 2024, 02:23:45 AM
I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

If there is anything that I am surprised by, then its the fact that people still fall for such obvious scams. I mean, once you hear something like "give me your money and I will do x thing for you" then you should be extremely careful of what is going on because that is a red flag. I guess some people just do not have any common sense. ???

If people do thorough research of whatever platform or person that their money is being held on, then thats 99% of guarding against scams. A no-name bookie does not deserve to "help you" in your gambling efforts.

The more questions you ask, the better. A scammer's worst enemy is the truth.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Hirose UK on February 06, 2024, 02:47:28 AM
~snip~
It is impossible for someone to know the secrets or opportunity descriptions about casino slot games because if they were really accurate, of course he would use them himself and become a billionaire without having to give the secrets to other people in exchange for a certain amount of money. This is clearly a fraud because the casino cannot possibly leak information or publish the secrets behind the casino games because if the owner does that it would be like destroying his business where people will easily use chance strategies to win large sums of money.

The owner will never sell or provide information even to his employees because this concerns his business, therefore people should not easily believe or be easily tempted by this kind of fraud because they only want to drain your money with information that is invalid and completely useless spend your money because the casino owner maintains strict security on the site so it is not easy for hackers to hack it.
You are right and this seems impossible because when someone knows the algorithm or secret of winning slot games then he will use all the money he has to play and get various big wins, he will become rich person with these wins.
Moreover, anyone who knows how to win for sure or knows the secrets of game will use it himself without having to share it with other people in exchange for paying certain amount of money.
Things like this happen lot, usually they are offered via Telegram or various social media such as Facebook and of course this is something that cannot be trusted, we have to be skeptical of people who offer things like this.

Moreover, in slot games there is random algorithm which no one can know unless they are the game provider who clearly designed it and created or developed it.
We as gamblers will never be able to understand how the algorithms of gambling work.

Of course, because when the owner does this, he has the opportunity to have problems with the business he is building.
The biggest threat is that employees can do things beyond reason that cause them to experience massive losses in business or games that their own employees manage to break.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Poker Player on February 06, 2024, 04:11:05 AM
Well, it is clear that as has been commented, if someone asks you to give him money to win a bet you can be sure that it is a scam. But there is one thing that is not so clear to me.

I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

Oh no? And where did it pay for it? Out of thin air?

I would appreciate an explanation on this, if possible with link to back it up, because it seems quite counter-intuitive. In modern slots this is clearly not the case, and some time ago I saw a program on Las Vegas in which they explained it but the statement you make seems to me too counterintuitive not to question it.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: retreat on February 06, 2024, 04:23:49 AM
It's always the same, on average scammers in gambling offer tricks that can enable a gambler to win a game easily by paying them a certain amount of money. It's very classic. And the funny thing is that many people fall for this, don't they think that they are being lied to? why don't they think that why the person should sell such tricks, why doesn't he keep it for himself and take all the profits. That's quite funny.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: Natsuu on February 06, 2024, 12:09:41 PM
But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.
I agree with what @topbitcoin said, that every virtual slot games is about your chances of winning the jackpot. And the virtual slot games are designed to provide huge profits for the casino, not the user. So I think it would be very unreasonable if someone believed that by giving someone some money he would get a glimpse of the casino slot system. Every system or algorithm on a slot games has been created and updated regularly to ensure there are no security gaps that can be hacked. So never believe anyone who says they can give you advice about winning bets.

Yeah. Virtual slots are all about luck and the casinos set it up to make bank, not the players. Thinking you can pay someone for a peek into the slot system and get guaranteed wins? Nah, that's not how it works. So believing someone has foolproof strategies is pretty much a gamble in itself. In the end, winning at slots is more about chance than any secret advice and anyone claiming otherwise is probably just trying to pull a fast one


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: maydna on February 06, 2024, 03:52:16 PM
~snip~
It is impossible for someone to know the secrets or opportunity descriptions about casino slot games because if they were really accurate, of course he would use them himself and become a billionaire without having to give the secrets to other people in exchange for a certain amount of money. This is clearly a fraud because the casino cannot possibly leak information or publish the secrets behind the casino games because if the owner does that it would be like destroying his business where people will easily use chance strategies to win large sums of money.

The owner will never sell or provide information even to his employees because this concerns his business, therefore people should not easily believe or be easily tempted by this kind of fraud because they only want to drain your money with information that is invalid and completely useless spend your money because the casino owner maintains strict security on the site so it is not easy for hackers to hack it.
I also think like you because if someone knows the secret of casino slot games, he will use it first until he can no longer use the secret, then he will sell it to the public and pretend that there is a secret that can be used to win the game slots. Fraudsters use this method to convince people that they have the secret to winning from casinos even though the casinos, as business owners, will not allow many people to win. People who have tried to buy the secret will only be deceived and regret trusting the wrong person. Casinos will not reveal their own secrets because they are in business and want to grow their business even bigger, so they will guard every secret well.

The casino owner will never sell or give information to anyone because it is a company secret. People are wrong if they believe anyone claiming to know about casino secrets because they want to get your money. We must not trust it, let alone buy such confidential information. Besides that, the casino will tighten its security and always monitor and guard it well through a security team that is always on standby.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: killerfrost on February 06, 2024, 05:01:52 PM
Why would someone with guaranteed winning information sell it cheaply to strangers instead of exploiting it themselves for massive personal gain? It simply doesn't make sense. These "entrepreneurs" you mentioned are just repackaging the same old con, using social media's reach and the illusion of exclusivity to hook their victims.

Gambling already involves substantial risk. Adding layers of deceit and manipulation only amplifies the danger. The promise of "guaranteed wins" fuels greed, clouding judgment and making individuals susceptible to parting with their hard-earned money.

These scammers are experts at exploiting emotions and psychological vulnerabilities. They may use testimonials, fake news articles, or even limited-time offers to create a sense of urgency and scarcity. But don't be fooled. Their tactics are well-worn and designed to manipulate, not inform.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: klidex on February 07, 2024, 01:48:12 AM
~snip~
It is impossible for someone to know the secrets or opportunity descriptions about casino slot games because if they were really accurate, of course he would use them himself and become a billionaire without having to give the secrets to other people in exchange for a certain amount of money. This is clearly a fraud because the casino cannot possibly leak information or publish the secrets behind the casino games because if the owner does that it would be like destroying his business where people will easily use chance strategies to win large sums of money.

The owner will never sell or provide information even to his employees because this concerns his business, therefore people should not easily believe or be easily tempted by this kind of fraud because they only want to drain your money with information that is invalid and completely useless spend your money because the casino owner maintains strict security on the site so it is not easy for hackers to hack it.
You are right and this seems impossible because when someone knows the algorithm or secret of winning slot games then he will use all the money he has to play and get various big wins, he will become rich person with these wins.
Moreover, anyone who knows how to win for sure or knows the secrets of game will use it himself without having to share it with other people in exchange for paying certain amount of money.
Things like this happen lot, usually they are offered via Telegram or various social media such as Facebook and of course this is something that cannot be trusted, we have to be skeptical of people who offer things like this.

Moreover, in slot games there is random algorithm which no one can know unless they are the game provider who clearly designed it and created or developed it.
We as gamblers will never be able to understand how the algorithms of gambling work.

Of course, because when the owner does this, he has the opportunity to have problems with the business he is building.
The biggest threat is that employees can do things beyond reason that cause them to experience massive losses in business or games that their own employees manage to break.
Let's be logical, no one can fight the secrets or algorithms that the slot game has because it is a machine game of chance, and every round is always random, even someone who understands how to play, of course they don't make money by claiming the secret of the game, it would be better if he uses it himself to get rich quickly. If he still asks for payment, this is clearly a fraud, because if the algorithm he has is accurate, of course he is not cheating and asking for payment because he can get more by playing the slots himself.

Yes, there are a lot of scams of this type on social media such as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Telegram, usually accompanied by proof of a picture or video of winnings that he or she got from somewhere to attract the gambler's interest and we have to be careful if we come across promotional advertisements like this and Don't be easily tempted even if he provides evidence like that because it's not necessarily the real picture.

Of course, this can destroy the casino business itself if there is information leaked about the pattern or strategy of the game, therefore casino owners do not easily give away secrets like this because it has a big impact on their business, after all, slot games are complicated and random so someone can win only when experiencing luck.


Title: Re: The "loaded slots" scam
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 07, 2024, 06:58:55 AM
I have not encountered these types of ads on social media but I’ve seen some newbie accounts on Bitcointalk selling scripts which they claim can give you a guaranteed jackpot win. These are obvious scams to most people but there are some who are new to crypto that are desperate to make a quick buck that end up falling victim. Most online cryptocurrency casinos have provably fair odds and can’t be manipulated by a script running on your device. At best, they might be able to manipulate the html of a website to make it appear as if you won but it is a fake animation and the casino isn’t going to actually recognize it as a valid win.

For modern physical slot machines they are usually equipped with software that ensures results are randomly generated. It would be difficult to rig them without the casino’s knowledge. Even if someone did manage to rig them in the player’s favor, the casino would quickly find out and disable the machine.