The "loaded slots" scam

[rhomelmabini]

Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

That's too good to be true tbh and I think only newbies would surely fall on that. If you already played any slots online before you'll notice that it's no different than any physical casino will offer, it's a game of chance. I don't think they could persuade regular gambler to fall for this outright scam, they'll surely not unless you're that desperate to make some quick gains.

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[AbuBhakar]

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It’s simple logic to analyze this scam. If they knew what machine that will pay then why they didn’t try it by themselves instead of selling it to other user that will give huge profit. Also there’s no way to determine what machine will gonna pay because it’s using an RNG for the result so every game is random and independent.

This kind of scam is very obvious to spot. I will be more cautious on slot game providers scam that not declaring the right RTP rather than this clown that promise sure win on a gambling.

[Yaunfitda]

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

Yeah, but this could be in the early days of slots machines wherein everyone is trying to figure it out how to beat the machine and so they come up with different ideas and scenario. But as slot games operators has evolved it's very hard to beat the system right now as it is based on randomness and everyone should rely on pure luck alone. Another misconceptions that we could be heard is the "cold" or "hot" machines. In reality though, each spin is independent and unrelated to previous outcomes, so this is just another gamblers fallacy. So yeah, this loaded slot machine are scams although I haven't heard any advertisement, and this might just be going underground or being propagated maybe in some obscure online platform.

[Hispo]

I believe I had read about this kind of scam before, it is a old one. Though, I was not aware of people nowadays trying to scam people by offering alledged privileged information on slots, in exchange of money; and to be honest it does not make sense to me someone with such information would want to give it away for some money, because knowing the inflation would be more than enough to guarantee earning thousands from the casino, until the started to suspect someone fishy is going on. People who fall for that kind of scam do not use their common sense at all.

Another scam I have seen on internet about is only related to brick and mortar casinos: the fake chip scam. It is commonly targeted to tourists in Las Vegas or in other cities known for their gambling industry. Basically, an stranger approaches tourists and tell them he has got a lot of money in casino chips but since he is banned from the casino he cannot step in and get his cash, so ask for the help of the tourists, the victims get tricked into giving the scammer a few thousands as colateral while they go and exchange much more than left in colateral, when the tourist reach the gambling floor and are told their chips are fake, the scammer has already disappeared with their cash.

[bhadz]

There are a lot of scams accusations on that particular section but there's not that much interest on it because some are plainly specific not to the game but to the casino that have caused them ruckus. And as for those secretive information about these games, whether it's with slots or any other. When they ask you specific money in return of that info, you should take notice of it as a red flag. There is no need for you to think twice because if they truly are a secret and makes them money, they should have used it first and benefit from it financially.

[_act_]

That's too good to be true tbh and I think only newbies would surely fall on that. If you already played any slots online before you'll notice that it's no different than any physical casino will offer, it's a game of chance. I don't think they could persuade regular gambler to fall for this outright scam, they'll surely not unless you're that desperate to make some quick gains.

This is what I also think. That some people that do not gamble can hear about it and be a victim of slot scam offer. Anyone that has been gambling online or offline on casinos will not hear a outt his and be a victim. But sometimes people can be very stupid and only think of what could bring them money and not finding out if truly it can. Before they will know they are scammed already. They can play the game and lose and also pay the scammer money. That is two losses at a time.

[coin-investor]

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

A gambler worth his salt knows that this is fake and an attempt to scam people, it's not only slot we have seen so many ads that are too good to be true we have one here advertising in this forum that he has a guaranteed winning formula.
I do have winning casino crypto formula with 200% profit per month,any interest?

If this is true, why not claim the loaded slots instead of selling them? This scammer preys on newbies who are unaware of the odds on slots. If you become greedy, you will likely fall. If there are ads like that, it's better to post them in the scam section for awareness and to tag these people so they cannot harm newbies here in Bitcointalk.

[Beparanf]

I think someone might have been saying you have to be "loaded" to play slots. That term could refer to being super rich or it could mean be super drunk. I say super drunk cause slots are what pays the casinos bills. Noone ever wins long term and you are correct, it's 100% luck not skill. No method can guarantee anything on a slot. Not live, not online.

Precisely, Even more that we are considering here physical slots which has a worst RTP compared to online slot games. I have a terrible experience playing on this kind of slot games.

I watch some of influencers playing this physical slot games and trying to hype it but I don’t understand why they keep playing while they are losing huge amount of money and the only max win they can get is just x2 of their bankroll. Another laughable thing is you will need to call a customer assistance once you win an amount greater than 1Grand. 

[Blitzboy]

I fully agree with your warning about "loaded slots" scams. I always wonder how frauds have evolved with technology. These techniques havent stopped since switching to digital slot machines; its just changed their presentation.

Through talks and observations, I've found that myths like these survive because they exploit a universal desire: a shortcut to success. So, remember that the only guarantee in games of chance is unpredictability. I constantly tell friends and forum members that understanding the odds is crucial to gambling for fun, not profit.

Promote an educated attitude to gambling to build a community that values fun and awareness above false hope. Debunking misconceptions like "loaded slots," protects our money and leisure activities. Lets talk, exchange stories, and most importantly, help each other navigate gambling with understanding and prudence. Indeed, informed gambling is the most fun.

[swogerino]

I think there should be more discussion warning about scams here.
This particular scam is pretty old, and goes all the way back to a time where slot machines were physical coin toss and lever machines with actual spinning parts.
Back then it would actually kind of make more sense. A "loaded" machine could in theory give out more rewards.
But people unaware to the scam wouldn't know that hitting a jackpot doesn't actually pay from the money the machine holds anyway even back then. So we're talking about a scam that has been around for ages actually.

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

As you say it yourself there is no such thing as loaded slots.At first I used to believe that too as in some casinos,reputable ones tell you the percentage of money or RTP that the slot is currently in.I used to choose slots that had a 63% monthly meaning that slot had eaten a lot of money and should pay out.The reality was completely different from my expectation and the slots never paid out meaning the concept of loaded slot is just a myth and people wanting to scam now are capitalizing on this myth in order to cheat newbies.

[the rise]

If the secret information on how to win is also a scam, how could he possibly sell that information, it's better for him to take direct steps to play and use the techniques he has, isn't that an instant way for him to get money, it can't be trusted at all. , and in the slot game too I think it's just a random spin that no one can predict

[Juse14]

There is no such thing as a guarantee of victory given to gamblers, that by playing a certain type of gambling you will immediately get a fairly large win. Everything is just a possibility and the possibility of losing is greater than the possibility of winning. Moreover, when talking about slot gambling, this is a type of gambling that is specifically designed to be more profitable for casino owners and the biggest income of a casino, for the most part, is generated from slot gambling played by its visitors. And I think all slot players already know this... so I don't think the casino is committing fraud at all. They are just too stupid... they already know that the chances of winning in slot gambling are very small, but they just keep playing and making deposits. And you need to remember that gambling is created as a means of getting entertainment and pleasure, not making a profit. and a casino can be considered to have committed a criminal act of fraud, that is when someone ends up winning a fairly large prize, then the casino does not give the prize. Or when the user makes a deposit, but the balance at the casino is still empty.

[alani123]

If the secret information on how to win is also a scam, how could he possibly sell that information, it's better for him to take direct steps to play and use the techniques he has, isn't that an instant way for him to get money, it can't be trusted at all. , and in the slot game too I think it's just a random spin that no one can predict

Well the thing is, there's no technique in slots.
Some gamblers might come to actually believe that certain slots games might be "loaded" and ready to give out more winnings than others. Surely that sounds more plausible. It might have even be true at some point in history with certain machines. But for sure it's not how slots work now.
So it's just another scammy practice to part people from their funds.

One important thing to remember about scams, is that they don't have to be sophisticated or smart in order to work.
Scamers will sometimes make mistakes with the specific purpose of weeding out smart people, in order not to waste their time with smarter people.

[iv4n]

...So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all.

This term, or we can call it a myth, was very popular in land-based casinos. I think we had a thread or two with a similar question, and the answer is still the same, this is just a myth nowadays. Before, the early and mid-90s when I played in small casinos with slot and poker machines it was a big deal to play on a "loaded machine". That means that someone lost a lot of money playing a specific machine, so anyone who sits after that can be a big winner. But keep in mind that old machines had a different set-up, and special device to program how much that machine can give. Today machines are different, and when it comes to playing online it's almost impossible to apply this to an RNG program!!!

Things were different 20-30 years ago... and many people, including me, believed in this myth. But nowadays with the new technology, this is not possible, we all depend on pure luck when it comes to playing slots!

[Strongkored]

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins. ner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

I am sure that if there is someone who really knows the secret of winning at slots and it is guaranteed to work well, that person will not make money by telling the trick as long as they pay him, because if he places a big bet, the money he will get is much bigger than advertising to get people who are willing to pay for the tricks he will share, and the steps he makes will only make the slot provider know the weaknesses of the game and will start making adjustments so that they can still make a profit.
People who sell tricks for anything are people who realize how difficult it is to make money so they start scamming in a way that looks better, but those who think well can detect that this is a form of scam, like people who sell trading signals.

[Hirose UK]

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Well the thing is, there's no technique in slots.
Some gamblers might come to actually believe that certain slots games might be "loaded" and ready to give out more winnings than others. Surely that sounds more plausible. It might have even be true at some point in history with certain machines. But for sure it's not how slots work now.
So it's just another scammy practice to part people from their funds.

One important thing to remember about scams, is that they don't have to be sophisticated or smart in order to work.
Scamers will sometimes make mistakes with the specific purpose of weeding out smart people, in order not to waste their time with smarter people.

I agree with what you said, but honestly, I myself would not consider all of this in slot games to be fraudulent practices because slot game providers build and develop them for business and of course this business is to make money.
We understand that slots are game of luck but on the other hand, thinking this is fraudulent practice is also not correct, we must be able to accept and understand that everything in slot games works based on algorithms based on random numbers.
No gambler can truly guess or beat the algorithm in a casino game, especially slots, and of course we as gamblers will only rely on luck as support to achieve win.
We can learn from lottery betting, lottery is type of bet that has random numbers in each output and we can only bet on the lucky numbers that we have and that we believe can win.
Isn't all this true and indeed this is gambling where the gambler has guarantee of bigger losses.

[davis196]

But surprisingly it's made a resurgence.
There's scammy ads and promotions all around. Someone claiming that if you pay them x amount of money, they'll give you some very secretive sets of information about what slot games to play and when, in order to get surewins.

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

I've never seen such ads. Where did you see ads about this scam? I don't think that gambling ads are allowed on most social media platforms.
Are you sure that virtual slots games are based on chance alone? I've always been suspicious about slots/dice/crash games being totally fair.
Such stupid scams will exist forever. There are people, who claim that if you pay them X amount of money, they will cast a spell on you, so that you could magically gain luck and start winning at gambling games. Dumb scams will keep existing as long as there are dumb people, who are falling into such scams.

[danherbias07]

That's not going to happen with online gambling. It's true, it's all about chance. Even if one user plays 10 thousand rounds in one slot game, it doesn't mean the next guy who plays that game will get the jackpot faster. There are maybe hundreds of players that are playing the same game and one of them could get that even on his first try or the last try.

It's truly a scam and I don't think there should be victims of this kind of evil attempt. I mean, it's just stupid to believe that kind of shit.
There's a different system for online slots gambling and I don't believe 100 percent that its ways are the same as the physical machine.
IMO, this is actually a bad scam attempt, whoever did this must be joking around or he is just stupid to think that someone would bite this kind of trap.
I could've believed it more if they found a "server seed" who wins a lot of times in slots. I think that is how they separate one player from another so there's no way two people will share one.

[moneystery]

if there is a service that offers someone the opportunity to increase their chances of winning at slots by paying them a certain amount of money, why can't that service just keep all that opportunity for themselves? why should they offer that to anyone else? from this alone, someone should suspect that the service is just a scam. because it is clear that slots are a game of chance and it depends entirely on the luck of the gambler. no matter how a gambler sets a strategy to win at slots, it all still depends on the algorithm of the game.

[junder]

It's important to emphasize that this is an outright scam. Slot machines, especially virtual ones, are based on chance alone.
So the term "loaded slot machine" does not apply at all. If you have ever seen someone believing in this myth, do your best to dispel it.
If we're going to gamble, at least we should be educated about it and do it in a healthy manner, without falling into the trap of fallacies.

Yeah, but this could be in the early days of slots machines wherein everyone is trying to figure it out how to beat the machine and so they come up with different ideas and scenario. But as slot games operators has evolved it's very hard to beat the system right now as it is based on randomness and everyone should rely on pure luck alone. Another misconceptions that we could be heard is the "cold" or "hot" machines. In reality though, each spin is independent and unrelated to previous outcomes, so this is just another gamblers fallacy. So yeah, this loaded slot machine are scams although I haven't heard any advertisement, and this might just be going underground or being propagated maybe in some obscure online platform.

In my opinion, many people try to beat slot machines, even though it seems almost impossible to happen. because in my opinion, if they try their best to beat the slot machine, it will only be a waste of their energy. and with their principles like that, I think it will only put them at the point of irritation and big losses. because in my opinion slot machines cannot be beaten by gamblers who are just players.

It's true what you said, gamblers can only rely on pure luck to win at slot gambling. Sometimes I see sites that provide RTP as a reference for winning, and there are also some people who really believe in this. but I myself don't believe that because I don't think it has any effect at all. also with the large number of people who believe in the patterns and tricks provided in my opinion they have been poisoned by gambling, because in my opinion all of these are just withdrawal tricks so that they are sure they can get big wins at gambling.