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Title: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on January 29, 2024, 02:59:34 AM
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Title: Re: BitList
Post by: icopress on January 31, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Using an outdated thread


Title: Re: WasabiWallet.io | Bitcoin wallet with built-in 🌌 CoinJoin
Post by: kayirigi on January 31, 2024, 08:12:14 PM

privacy-focused Bitcoin wallet


Not true. Wasabi funds BC analysis and works with law enforcement.



which means you have full control over the software you manage your money with.


Also not true. Wasabi will censor your coins if BC analysis tells them to.


Better using an open source wallet that does not fund BC analysis and does not censor. Sparrow wallet is good choice.


Title: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on June 13, 2024, 10:38:05 PM
Reserve


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: logfiles on June 13, 2024, 11:50:46 PM
@icopress with Agoradesk and winding down. I think It would be better to remove them off the list. Trading on both platforms was disabled May 14th, 2024. Anyway, great job with the website.

I have a feeling your site might also get a DDoS attack at one point, like it happened to some other similar sites a while back. Any plan for other clearnet and Tor Mirrors?


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on June 14, 2024, 02:01:44 AM
I'll think about mirrors a little later.

As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: examplens on June 14, 2024, 09:00:13 AM
icopress, the link to the website [BiList Homepage] is not good, it goes to bitcointalk.org. Also, the link behind [Reserve] leads to bitcointalk. I guess it's not beta anymore, I see that everything is well-linked on the Altt forum.



Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: Kruw on June 14, 2024, 09:04:14 AM
Why did you remove Wasabi?


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on June 14, 2024, 04:12:57 PM
Why did you remove Wasabi?
I replied to you in PM

icopress, the link to the website [BiList Homepage] is not good, it goes to bitcointalk.org. Also, the link behind [Reserve] leads to bitcointalk. I guess it's not beta anymore, I see that everything is well-linked on the Altt forum.
This has been corrected.. as for the reserve, I had something in mind and decided to reserve a place (will change soon).


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: logfiles on June 14, 2024, 11:58:23 PM
I'll think about mirrors a little later.

As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.
Thanks for the clarification.

What does your site base on to determine if the site is offline or not (is it through the clearnet domain or Onion? Or both?)
Do you check them up manually, or everything is automatic? Sorry for the questions, I don't know so much about the technical bit of web designing.

Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.
Do you think it would be worth it, having a slot for an online/offline clearnet and Tor mirror status for each service, if this is easily achievable through automation?





Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: efialtis on June 15, 2024, 04:48:13 PM
Honored to be featured - appreciate you, ico!  :)


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: Pmalek on June 17, 2024, 06:53:54 AM
Nice work with the website icopress!

Perhaps you could add some more information about individual sites. For instance, Peach Bitcoin is a no KYC exchange, but only for daily trades of up to 1000CHF. If you try to exchange more than that, you will have to undergo KYC.

What's the status of Hodlhodl and Godex? They neither have a no KYC nor KYC tag on your website. I know that Hodlhodl can request KYC if they find you or your coins suspicious for any reason.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on June 17, 2024, 02:29:54 PM
Do you check them up manually, or everything is automatic? Sorry for the questions, I don't know so much about the technical bit of web designing.
Parsing occurs automatically several times a day.

Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.
Do you think it would be worth it, having a slot for an online/offline clearnet and Tor mirror status for each service, if this is easily achievable through automation?
Thanks for the comment! Added to task list!

Honored to be featured - appreciate you, ico!  :)
Welcome aboard!

Nice work with the website icopress!

Perhaps you could add some more information about individual sites. For instance, Peach Bitcoin is a no KYC exchange, but only for daily trades of up to 1000CHF. If you try to exchange more than that, you will have to undergo KYC.

What's the status of Hodlhodl and Godex? They neither have a no KYC nor KYC tag on your website. I know that Hodlhodl can request KYC if they find you or your coins suspicious for any reason.
I am aware of this limitation. These restrictions are due to the fact that the Swiss license imposes such restrictions. I won't add a notice right now, but maybe I'll do it later (I'm a little busy with other things right now). Regarding the Hodlhodl and Godex tags... that will be updated soon.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: dkbit98 on June 17, 2024, 06:33:07 PM
icopress I think you should remove services that shut down permanently, instead of adding Offline status, for example Tengri and AgoraDesk.
LocalMonero is showing Online status on Bitlist but they are also shutting down like sister company AgoraDesk.
I would also add more virtual debit cards that can work without kyc, but I know collecting all this information is not that easy.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: NotATether on June 18, 2024, 06:18:13 AM
Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.

But you're not supposed to use Robosats in clearnet. They even went as far as to discourage people from using it when you open it in the browser.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: Lucius on June 18, 2024, 10:24:50 AM
Nice list @icopress, I have to admit it's nice to have all the essential services related to cryptocurrencies in one place. I noticed only one small bug in the display of one of the mixer's names (Cmize), it is written twice and overlaps (at least that's how it is for me - Tor).


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: Z-tight on June 18, 2024, 05:08:23 PM
Great compilation icopress, it is great to have websites like these, so as to be able to link them to newbies who are looking for kyc free services. I have bookmarked your website and i'd surely use it for such purpose from now on.
As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.
I understand, but i think it should not remain in the list for a long time.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: logfiles on June 18, 2024, 11:52:17 PM
But you're not supposed to use Robosats in clearnet. They even went as far as to discourage people from using it when you open it in the browser.
I just stumbled across another part of the website, and I think they are trying to do better - https://learn.robosats.com, which loads OK and has valuable information about Robosats. It seems they intentionally disabled it from loading in normal browsers. When you visit the same domain using Tor browser, you are automatically redirected to the official onion link.


Title: Re: 👣 BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: paid2 on June 21, 2024, 07:36:31 AM
Nice website!

The list of exchanges is exaustive, which is cool.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)

Do you think to offer an onion address to BitList.co?

Another (small) detail, I think a "kycfree" filter at the top would be a positive thing to have from an ergonomic point of view. I'm talking about a button with an effect on all tabs, because at the moment when you search the list for a kyc-free service to activate the filter by clicking on it, you lose it when you change tabs.



May I ask if you plan to add Stealths? https://stealths.net/
Using for some time now, very nice, unfortunately it is limited to online purchase or Google Wallet/ApplePay for IRL payments, but I never had any issue in EU with their Mastercard for now, and was never asked to do KYC (still a risk because of third party "myprepaidcenter").



https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/21/hM0Wj.png

Just in case you missed it, they operate in EU too. 



Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: pawel7777 on June 24, 2024, 09:42:40 PM
Really nice and useful website.
I didn't have a clue it existed until Skarais posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499027.msg64252067#msg64252067) a link to its signature campaign topic.
I've bookmarked it and added link to the campaign in the non-profit campaigns overview (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499027)

Quick question: how is the AML rating (for mixers) determined? Is there a way for users to provide such rating, or is it down to BitList operator(s) to test and rate it? And what does it actually mean?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/24/hf6Df.png


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: liuka on June 24, 2024, 09:53:43 PM
The information available on the website is quite helpful for the community, including information about casinos which include top sites that carry out promotions on the Bitcointalk forum.

Maybe to spread the word about Bitlist widely. Does Bitlist have an X account and do you plan to create an X account, TikTok or Facebook. Maybe it's useful for outside community or they those who are not active on bitcointalk.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on June 24, 2024, 09:56:20 PM
Quick question: how is the AML rating (for mixers) determined? Is there a way for users to provide such rating, or is it down to BitList operator(s) to test and rate it? And what does it actually mean?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/24/hf6Df.png
I don't have too much time right now, but in general, yes... any reliable user can test any service and a rating will be assigned based on his assessment (AML bot). For example, the Mixtum rating was based on a public review (you can follow the link). And the rest of the mixers were assigned a rating by default since they were built like Mixtum on the Jambler platform, as a result there was no need for re-test.

Thanks for your feedback! Added to the to-do list!

Nice website!

The list of exchanges is exaustive, which is cool.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)

Do you think to offer an onion address to BitList.co?

Another (small) detail, I think a "kycfree" filter at the top would be a positive thing to have from an ergonomic point of view. I'm talking about a button with an effect on all tabs, because at the moment when you search the list for a kyc-free service to activate the filter by clicking on it, you lose it when you change tabs.



May I ask if you plan to add Stealths? https://stealths.net/
Using for some time now, very nice, unfortunately it is limited to online purchase or Google Wallet/ApplePay for IRL payments, but I never had any issue in EU with their Mastercard for now, and was never asked to do KYC (still a risk because of third party "myprepaidcenter").



https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/21/hM0Wj.png

Just in case you missed it, they operate in EU too.  



Nice list @icopress, I have to admit it's nice to have all the essential services related to cryptocurrencies in one place. I noticed only one small bug in the display of one of the mixer's names (Cmize), it is written twice and overlaps (at least that's how it is for me - Tor).
While we are at the initial stage of development .. we plan to expand to Product Hunt and add more profile tabs (for example, a list of cold wallets). There is an idea of ​​adding widgets, but I have not yet formed an idea of ​​what it should look like.

Great compilation icopress, it is great to have websites like these, so as to be able to link them to newbies who are looking for kyc free services. I have bookmarked your website and i'd surely use it for such purpose from now on.
I hope I won't disappoint you! At the very least, the absence of banner advertising should please you for a very long time.



Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on July 05, 2024, 02:42:03 AM
Changelog

Code:
29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: Wasabist.IO on July 06, 2024, 05:15:59 PM
Changelog

Code:
29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.
Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos (Beta).
Post by: icopress on July 07, 2024, 01:08:40 AM
Changelog

Code:
07-Jul-24: Added Stealths, Bitcoindata.science, Updated BitList (wiki.bitlist.co), Tested (Thormixer, RoyalMix)

Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io
Thx. I'll take a look at it and maybe add it later.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 11:31:35 AM
Icopress consider adding tag information if crypto cards are virtual, physical or both.
In our region many people who used Binance card switched to Trusteeglobal.eu, they have mandatory kyc for Trustee virtual card, and I think that owner is from Ukraine.
I know several other cards that are missing from Bitlist, one of them is from Bit.store that has virtual no-kyc and physical kyc card.
Noones.com also has virtual visa card, and Gnosispay.com is only card in the world that is self-custodial.
Trocador.app have very good non-kyc prepaid cards, and I should also mention Bitrefill.com crypto card.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: HydraDC on August 02, 2024, 01:04:14 PM
Some small notes.

Xeovo VPN launched on 2016. They also accept LTC.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: logfiles on August 03, 2024, 10:42:10 PM
Cypher card

Website -  https://cypherhq.io/card

Tags - worldwide

Fees - None
Production cost - None
Accepts - A number of cryptocurrencies
KYC - Yes
ATM withdrawal - Not sure

Bad points
1. They have issues with mobile number verification, so have to increase the card balance limit.
2. Very slow support due to very few stuff members.

I have used this card to transact only small amounts


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: PrivacyG on August 06, 2024, 10:58:22 PM
I tried to use your website to search for Cards with out Know Your Customer, but with Java Script disabled I could not click the 'Debit Cards' tab.  In fact, I can not click any of the tabs at all since I believe they are Java Script related.  My suggestion would be to turn them into clickable links or add a small 'pop up' icon next to them for us who do not use Java Script at all.  But I am no Web Developer, so take this advice as it is.  Anyway, this is a great idea that you had to launch BitList!


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Darker45 on August 07, 2024, 03:37:08 AM
I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on August 07, 2024, 06:48:03 AM
I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".

SolCard does not require KYC unless you want to raise your spending limits above $10,000 per month.

The PayWithUs policy also says "The sole personal information we collect is your email address”. For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on August 07, 2024, 05:15:27 PM
For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on August 08, 2024, 04:28:59 AM
For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.

I think you are agreeing with my point because I said it is still KYC free since only a valid email is required. They do ask for a name when you register but you can make up something random. Using a unique alias email is definitely recommended for maximum privacy.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: joker_josue on August 08, 2024, 06:46:55 AM
Here is a service to buy BTC via LN, without KYC:
https://maxfy.maximacitadel.org/

Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on August 08, 2024, 03:19:02 PM
Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: joker_josue on August 08, 2024, 06:58:54 PM
Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.

I think you can use any card, as they even accept Google Pay.

I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.



Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on August 09, 2024, 07:15:35 PM
I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: joker_josue on August 09, 2024, 11:31:08 PM
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

According to feedback from other customers (I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet), it is registered as a purchase of "computer consultancy" or something similar.
In the next few days, I'm planning to make a purchase and then share it here.  ;)


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Franck94 on August 13, 2024, 01:47:20 PM
You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2024, 05:06:35 AM
You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ

I have used SolCard to pay for a Hulu subscription and some other things and haven’t had any issues. They are partnered with Alchemy Pay so if you’ve used cards from another Alchemy Pay partner, like Bit.Store, you will notice they work similarly. There are things which I don’t like, like the fees and the amount of restricted merchants. Their telegram is full of people shilling the Solcard token, but I won’t go as far as calling them a scam. I have ignored the token completely and only care about the card, which has worked well enough for me, although I will probably try something else once my balance is depleted.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: NotATether on August 15, 2024, 05:46:32 AM
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

There should not be a problem when  P2P trading though, especially when the buyer is sending your cash from inside he same country and it's a small amount - no more than a few hundred dollars, because such transactions are pretty normal from the bank's point of view.

What you don't want to do is make so many trades with the same bank that it starts to get suspicious with all these wires coming all of a sudden. I like to use an interval of at least once a month because that aligns with people's paydays.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on August 15, 2024, 08:59:49 PM
I have used SolCard to pay for a Hulu subscription and some other things and haven’t had any issues. They are partnered with Alchemy Pay so if you’ve used cards from another Alchemy Pay partner, like Bit.Store, you will notice they work similarly.
I used Bit.store cards before and they worked (mostly) fine but I had some issues with them and I lost some money because they canceled one of my cards and I was not able to receive refund for my purchase.
They also changed a lot of thing recently and they added more restrictions for some websites.
Do you know what is the difference between SolCard and Bit.Store, if there is any?  

There should not be a problem when  P2P trading though, especially when the buyer is sending your cash from inside he same country and it's a small amount - no more than a few hundred dollars, because such transactions are pretty normal from the bank's point of view.
Like I said, it should not a problem if this doesn't happen often, but they can always find some connection with Bitcoin and flag your bank account.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: NotATether on August 18, 2024, 08:43:18 AM
@icopress Your images for freebitcoin and roobet are broken.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dansus021 on September 10, 2024, 02:25:01 AM
@icopress I am just curious how to add more website on your site and what is the requirement

I been using services like Vultr VPS and Surfhsark VPN and I usually pay it using crypto as far as I know they didn't require KYC so are two of them eligible to get on your list


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: serversguru on September 13, 2024, 02:29:50 AM
Hello,

Just stumble upon your website today. Thank you for listing us!
I wanted to correct that we (servers.guru) do have a tor onion link which is : srvguru7bjzzjba7xy2hnx2ju4k77qy4eum2h3tgudwc3j2zof4aggyd.onion

Would be great if it could be corrected!

Thank you.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: The Change Ltd on September 28, 2024, 03:59:39 PM
 :) Good afternoon, we would like to see ourselves in this list, we are working for the second month without any complaints and have not a small deposit, as well as the administration of the project is not anonymous (we plan to do an official registration)!


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: paid2 on October 12, 2024, 08:25:47 AM
Bump!


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on October 17, 2024, 10:24:41 AM
@icopress, A suggestion for you. You should implement some social media add-ons on this platform. I tried to share the website link on FB and X (formerly Twitter) and the post only contained the link, without any tags or description.
For example Twitter https://developer.x.com/en/docs/x-for-websites/cards/overview/abouts-cards
Or Fb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/images/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: NotATether on October 17, 2024, 12:12:43 PM
@icopress, A suggestion for you. You should implement some social media add-ons on this platform. I tried to share the website link on FB and X (formerly Twitter) and the post only contained the link, without any tags or description.
For example Twitter https://developer.x.com/en/docs/x-for-websites/cards/overview/abouts-cards
Or Fb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/images/

Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on October 17, 2024, 09:10:33 PM
Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
examplens is obviously using it :D
I think that Instagram has the same owners as facebook, and they are known for privacy violations.
Most crypto oriented people this days are probably hanging on twitter and nostr this days.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on October 18, 2024, 09:42:21 AM
Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
examplens is obviously using it :D
I think that Instagram has the same owners as facebook, and they are known for privacy violations.
Most crypto oriented people this days are probably hanging on twitter and nostr this days.

Some time ago, a project I was involved in required knowledge of FB ads, so I was forced to familiarize myself with it.
Seen from the point of view of promotion, I often got better results from FB posts compared to Twitter, at least when it comes to ordinary users, not influencers or big accounts. I am referring to crypto things.
I would not ignore the potential of promotion on social networks, regardless of whether we think that no one uses it.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: bitmover on October 23, 2024, 12:49:50 AM
Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
examplens is obviously using it :D
I think that Instagram has the same owners as facebook, and they are known for privacy violations.
Most crypto oriented people this days are probably hanging on twitter and nostr this days.

Some time ago, a project I was involved in required knowledge of FB ads, so I was forced to familiarize myself with it.
Seen from the point of view of promotion, I often got better results from FB posts compared to Twitter, at least when it comes to ordinary users, not influencers or big accounts. I am referring to crypto things.
I would not ignore the potential of promotion on social networks, regardless of whether we think that no one uses it.

I think promoting a mixer-related website on Facebook is a bit contradictory. No one seeking privacy would ever search on Facebook...

I agree that adding the tags/meta description/etc to easily share with images and title is important, because it is also useful in different platforms.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on October 23, 2024, 01:26:29 PM
I think promoting a mixer-related website on Facebook is a bit contradictory. No one seeking privacy would ever search on Facebook...
Now you are putting me in a situation where I have to defend FB.  :-\
Above I gave only an example of what it looks like if someone were to share a bitlist.co link on that network. I wouldn't go into the usefulness of that here, although I often got better results from there than from "crypto-friendly" Twitter. I'm talking from the aspect of push site traffic.
Is it logical that someone wants privacy on FB, probably not, but I would not ignore the millions of users of that network.

Finally, in addition to the collection of mixers, Bitlist.co has listed casinos, debit cards, exchanges and other services. It is not exclusively focused on mixers.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on October 23, 2024, 06:47:58 PM
I would not ignore the potential of promotion on social networks, regardless of whether we think that no one uses it.
I am not ignoring them, that is why I said that twitter is currently better for purpose of advertising Bitlist.co

I think promoting a mixer-related website on Facebook is a bit contradictory. No one seeking privacy would ever search on Facebook...
Probably, but there are exceptions for every rule.
Some people are using facebook only for their marketplace, others for contact with friends and family, but Zuckerberg is using all of them ;)

Another suggestion I have for icopress is to suggest listing of BitList.co to Kycnot.me website:
https://kycnot.me/request/service



Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on October 23, 2024, 07:52:02 PM
Another suggestion I have for icopress is to suggest listing of BitList.co to Kycnot.me website:
https://kycnot.me/request/service
Thanks for the suggestion! It's on my to-do list (I've even spoken to kycnotme's CEO)


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Kruw on October 26, 2024, 12:52:43 AM
Thanks for the suggestion! It's on my to-do list (I've even spoken to kycnotme's CEO)

A month ago, I sent you an urgent message about 4 coinjoin phishing sites you have listed. They are still there. Explain.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on October 28, 2024, 11:15:54 AM
I think now is the time to remove services that have been offline for several months. It's obvious, it's not a temporary break and it won't come back. If, for any reason, there is a need for such services to continue to be listed, there should probably be a special category for such services, graveyard or similar.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on November 07, 2024, 12:42:22 PM
In the meantime, there was a small upgrade, so let's mention it here. Each category on the site has its own unique link, simplified navigation and sharing

Clicking each tab will now go to its respective URL, just like visiting the URL will go to its respective tab.

Example:
https://bitlist.co/services
https://bitlist.co/debit-cards


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: paid2 on November 07, 2024, 03:56:06 PM
I think now is the time to remove services that have been offline for several months. It's obvious, it's not a temporary break and it won't come back. If, for any reason, there is a need for such services to continue to be listed, there should probably be a special category for such services, graveyard or similar.

Yes for the idea of a graveyard, even if "offline" status is already enough IMO (talking about special category).
But in the meantime I think it would be a mistake to completely remove links from offline services, as this lets users know that a service is not accessible and can avoid them falling into the trap of phishing copies.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on November 13, 2024, 12:26:38 PM
I am currently looking at the PGP signed letter verification tool https://bitlist.co/pgp it seems that this type of verification is mainly used by mixers. The only exceptions from non-mixers are eXch and Gingerwallet.
Why do other exchangers avoid PGP fingerprint verification?


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on November 13, 2024, 09:35:45 PM
I am suggesting one interesting service to be added on Bitlist website.
It is called Sub-Rosa, based in Vienna, Austria, and they are working with anonymous package delivery.
This service is accepting bitcoin, monero or fiat payments, and suing it you can receive package without revealing your identity.
Interesting concept that works, and I first heard about it in bitcointalk forum:
https://www.sub-rosa.at/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on November 18, 2024, 12:14:21 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the bitlist.co Github page here?
It seems like a lot of effort has been put into it.

https://github.com/icopress/List-Bitcoin-Mixers/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Kruw on November 26, 2024, 07:21:28 AM
A month ago, I sent you an urgent message about 4 coinjoin phishing sites you have listed. They are still there. Explain.

It's been 2 months and you still have all 4 phishing websites listed. What do you have to say for yourself?


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on November 26, 2024, 10:59:16 AM
A month ago, I sent you an urgent message about 4 coinjoin phishing sites you have listed. They are still there. Explain.

It's been 2 months and you still have all 4 phishing websites listed. What do you have to say for yourself?
Write them here publicly. Other users may have an opinion about these controversial listed services, and that would help in the further process of selection which service will be listed on bitlist.co
To be honest, you are not a person with sound judgment, so your words are not always taken as reliable.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Kruw on November 26, 2024, 10:00:47 PM
Write them here publicly.

Here's the list:

You can see icopress is promoting custodial sites "Whirto", "Tengri", "Mixero" and "Unijoin" as coinjoin services. Now everyone who sends their money there will assume coinjoins are scams because they got their money stolen by yet another "mixing site".

There is no coinjoin coordination service offered by these phishing sites, they have complete access to your transaction data and complete custody of your coins.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on November 26, 2024, 10:13:43 PM
Two of these sites are not working, so I will delete them soon. Although I will probably leave UniJoin in the list only by removing the "CoinJoin" postscript (since this site has many clones, and despite the fact that it is closed, users should know which site was the original). I have not tested Whirto (and I have no desire to test it since I sent them a number of questions and did not receive a single answer, so their hashtag will return as soon as they prove otherwise). I have not tested Mixero, but as far as I can judge, they have been working for a long time without complaints. Therefore, I need a volunteer who could show a letter of guarantee and a successful transaction, and we could take a look to determine how similar their method is to CoinJoin.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on November 27, 2024, 10:33:12 AM
OK. This is the closest to what I expected as an answer.
Two of these sites are not working, so I will delete them soon. Although I will probably leave UniJoin in the list only by removing the "CoinJoin" postscript (since this site has many clones, and despite the fact that it is closed, users should know which site was the original). I have not tested Whirto (and I have no desire to test it since I sent them a number of questions and did not receive a single answer, so their hashtag will return as soon as they prove otherwise). I have not tested Mixero, but as far as I can judge, they have been working for a long time without complaints. Therefore, I need a volunteer who could show a letter of guarantee and a successful transaction, and we could take a look to determine how similar their method is to CoinJoin.

@icopress, I see that mixy is offline in the monitoring, I just checked the site is available and seems to be functional. I don't know if this is entered manually or if some script automatically checks it.
It seems to me that there is a slightly higher level of CF protection, it is possible that this is the reason why the check shows that the site is unavailable.

You can see icopress is promoting custodial sites "Whirto", "Tengri", "Mixero" and "Unijoin" as coinjoin services. Now everyone who sends their money there will assume coinjoins are scams because they got their money stolen by yet another "mixing site".
Mixero is certainly not a phishing site, it is quite proven and there are no complaints about it. By the way, they recently implemented a new method, they named a ricochet, which in some further analyses is closer to coinjoin than to the classic mixer.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Kruw on November 27, 2024, 01:52:10 PM
Mixero is certainly not a phishing site, it is quite proven and there are no complaints about it.

I just complained about it, didn't I? I just tested it and confirmed it is a phishing site and not a coinjoin coordinator, it provides you a BTC deposit address.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on November 27, 2024, 08:40:42 PM
I would replace word coinjoin with some different term for mentioned mixers.

There is no coinjoin coordination service offered by these phishing sites, they have complete access to your transaction data and complete custody of your coins.
As far as I know Bitlist never claimed any website is using coordinators.
Services you mentioned are calling this ''coinjoin'' on their website, even if it's not a real coinjoin with centralized coordinators like you are.
I wouldn't go so far to calling them all a phishing websites, and I didn't know word coinjoin (aka joining of coins) has been trademarked.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Dont Trust Verify on November 28, 2024, 06:20:24 AM
Mixero is certainly not a phishing site, it is quite proven and there are no complaints about it. By the way, they recently implemented a new method, they named a ricochet, which in some further analyses is closer to coinjoin than to the classic mixer.

Ricochet has nothing to do with coinjoin. It is just a copy or Samourai Wallet’s ricochet feature which adds several hops to your transactions. Why you would send your coins to a custodian and pay them a fee for something that can easily be done from any regular self custodial wallet is beyond my understanding. It is worse than coinjoin because it doesn’t hide the connection between the sender and receiver and all the extra hops cost you unnecessary fees.

They also have terms and conditions prohibiting residents of the United States so I assume all the people that complained about zkSNACKs censorship when they had similar geographical restrictions in their final month of operation will be just as angry and will be pressuring forum users not to use Mixero. They should be doing that regardless because it is a blatant scam. You don’t need a custodian to swap back and forth between BTC and XMR. You don’t need a custodian to do coinjoins for you. You don’t need a custodian to add hops to your transactions. They are deceiving customers by claiming to offer privacy services when they are really just a custodial wallet trying to scam you into paying fees.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on December 13, 2024, 11:01:26 AM
@icopress and @TryNinja, I have a suggestion for a platform upgrade.  :)
What do you think about the option of adding night mode on the bitlist.co site? I believe that most people would like the possibility of changing a large white area.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on January 03, 2025, 08:25:16 PM
It's nice to see that offline services that are reliably known to be closed have been removed from monitoring.

You can also remove Blockdx exchange since their blockdx.net domain is for sale on Godaddy. Link (https://www.godaddy.com/forsale/blockdx.net?utm_source=TDFS_BINNS2&utm_medium=parkedpages&utm_campaign=x_corp_tdfs-binns2_base&traffic_type=TDFS_BINNS2&traffic_id=binns2&)


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on January 06, 2025, 01:41:58 PM
You can also remove Blockdx exchange since their blockdx.net domain is for sale on Godaddy. Link (https://www.godaddy.com/forsale/blockdx.net?utm_source=TDFS_BINNS2&utm_medium=parkedpages&utm_campaign=x_corp_tdfs-binns2_base&traffic_type=TDFS_BINNS2&traffic_id=binns2&)
Strange how they didn't announce anything about stopping wallet development and selling their domain.
There was some activity on twitter last year and their github page is still available with latest release v1.9.5 from December 9.
Blocknet main website is still available also:
https://github.com/blocknetdx/block-dx
https://blocknet.org/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on February 11, 2025, 11:55:52 AM
Friendly bump!

Strange how they didn't announce anything about stopping wallet development and selling their domain.
If the owner doesn't renew it on time, Godaddy usually takes over domains that have had some traffic and put them up for auction.

For a scammer, the buy-it-now price of $8,911 is not that unattainable if he will deal with the idea for a later exit.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/02/11/ebiLP.png


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on February 13, 2025, 12:08:02 AM
It's nice to see that offline services that are reliably known to be closed have been removed from monitoring.

You can also remove Blockdx exchange since their blockdx.net domain is for sale on Godaddy. Link (https://www.godaddy.com/forsale/blockdx.net?utm_source=TDFS_BINNS2&utm_medium=parkedpages&utm_campaign=x_corp_tdfs-binns2_base&traffic_type=TDFS_BINNS2&traffic_id=binns2&)
Thank you! Will be removed as soon as possible.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: logfiles on February 16, 2025, 03:25:33 PM
Bump!

Solcard under services is offline
is the Solcard under services the same as the one under debit cards. I see the same logo being used but the links are different
Solcard under services - solcard.sh
Solcard under debit cards - solcard.cc

Secondly, Nexo card only works for the residents of EEA and the UK not worldwide as the tag suggests.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 04, 2025, 06:38:45 PM
How are you checking whether RoboSats is online or not? Because I can access it just fine through both the clearnet (accessible through but not recommended: unsafe.robosats.org as mentioned here[1]) as well as the Tor link.

[1] https://learn.robosats.org/docs/access/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Pmalek on April 05, 2025, 07:05:34 AM
How are you checking whether RoboSats is online or not? Because I can access it just fine through both the clearnet (accessible through but not recommended: unsafe.robosats.org as mentioned here[1]) as well as the Tor link.
Since you shouldn't use RoboSats in clearnet for trading, I would rely on and check only the official onion website. If that one is offline, it doesn't matter that the clearnet version is up and running. If you trade over clearnet, you are throwing away all the privacy benefits you would gain by using Tor.   


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: paid2 on April 05, 2025, 07:08:12 AM
How are you checking whether RoboSats is online or not? Because I can access it just fine through both the clearnet (accessible through but not recommended: unsafe.robosats.org as mentioned here[1]) as well as the Tor link.

[1] https://learn.robosats.org/docs/access/

https://isrobosatsdown.templeofsats.org/status/robodex


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on April 27, 2025, 07:20:17 PM
Friendly bump!

btw. Why is the current status offline shown next to Majesticbank, even though I have normal access to their site?


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: paid2 on April 29, 2025, 08:39:28 PM
Friendly bump!

btw. Why is the current status offline shown next to Majesticbank, even though I have normal access to their site?

Majesticbank was offline about a week ago (if my memory is right), and the incident lasted about two days. (Maybe the 14-years-old admin needed to do his homework and didn't have time to act more quickly (lol))

The service is indeed back online.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: ESG on May 22, 2025, 01:50:31 PM
Hello! Today I tested Coinswap Click, I sent 0.001BTC to LTC, the BTC was, but I still haven't received the LTC, and on the website it doesn't say anything that BTC was deposited and no other trade update. I sent a message in feedback with email, and they didn't respond,____#, is there any other way to contact them?


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on May 22, 2025, 02:06:28 PM
Hello! Today I tested Coinswap Click, I sent 0.001BTC to LTC, the BTC was, but I still haven't received the LTC, and on the website it doesn't say anything that BTC was deposited and no other trade update. I sent a message in feedback with email, and they didn't respond,____#, is there any other way to contact them?
Have you checked your spam folder? And not only for email addresses from the coinswap.click domain.
As they say, that domain has problems with the blacklist, so sometimes they use other domains for communication.

I hope you saved your trade ID.

Also I saw this on their site, I don't know if this is the latest update and if one of these three stuck orders is yours.

Quote
At this moment there are 3 STUCK TRADES without any email or refund address. Please leave us a feedback message with an email address, so we can contact you. Please leave us a refund address, so we can refund you. Also leave us any other details such as deposit address, amount or timestamp so we can find your swap transaction (if you lost it).


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: ESG on May 22, 2025, 02:17:13 PM
______________________________

 I've checked my email, a few times, and still nothing, ...
   Also these three stucked trades are not from today

  Yes, I saved the trade ID, I'll wait until later, I'll be back here to update, thank you very much.
____________________
Quote
Update: i refresh the page that i used to swap, and was showed this to me:
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/05/22/UajRIc.png

It's already in my wallet, but I didn't receive any email, that's good.
the site is working.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: bitmover on June 01, 2025, 10:22:11 AM
I noticed Godex is still showing up as KYC-free in the website.
Maybe you should fix it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65330395#msg65330395


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: logfiles on June 01, 2025, 10:49:37 PM
Is it by design that when I click on any of the links, two tabs containing the same service page open at once, or perhaps it's a minor bug?

1. cryptopay supports mostly European countries. I don't see any Asian, North American, South American or African countries. So I don't think this is worldwide - https://help.cryptopay.me/en/articles/3415101-list-of-supported-countries
2. Is it just me or there is no card service offered by changeinvest.com (change card). All I see is as though they just scrapped off the card thing and decided to offer crypto trading, CFD trading, commodities, Staking etc




Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on June 02, 2025, 11:51:46 AM
2. Is it just me or there is no card service offered by changeinvest.com (change card). All I see is as though they just scrapped off the card thing and decided to offer crypto trading, CFD trading, commodities, Staking etc
This seems like a mainly trading platform to me, too. I can't find anything about cards.
The only thing I would connect similarly is that the minimum deposit with the production cost is €10 permutated.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/06/02/UXrfff.png


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: logfiles on June 02, 2025, 10:59:04 PM
This seems like a mainly trading platform to me, too. I can't find anything about cards.
The only thing I would connect similarly is that the minimum deposit with the production cost is €10 permutated.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/06/02/UXrfff.png
I think this is one of those platform that start off with a certain kind of service and then when things don't work out so well, they just switch to a whole new different service without a sufficient warning and continue with business as usual.

edit:

Indeed the just removed off the card part - https://web.archive.org/web/20220712055659/https://www.changeinvest.com/


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on June 03, 2025, 11:48:50 AM
[...] https://www.sub-rosa.at/
I missed this but now this resource has been added.  :)

Solcard under services is offline
is the Solcard under services the same as the one under debit cards. I see the same logo being used but the links are different
Solcard under services - solcard.sh
Solcard under debit cards - solcard.cc

Secondly, Nexo card only works for the residents of EEA and the UK not worldwide as the tag suggests.
Everything mentioned has been updated (this was done a long time ago, I just forgot to report it).

How are you checking whether RoboSats is online or not? Because I can access it just fine through both the clearnet (accessible through but not recommended: unsafe.robosats.org as mentioned here[1]) as well as the Tor link.

[1] https://learn.robosats.org/docs/access/
Done!

Why is the current status offline shown next to Majesticbank, even though I have normal access to their site?
Same here! Updated a long time ago but only now managed to mention it.

I noticed Godex is still showing up as KYC-free in the website.
Maybe you should fix it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65330395#msg65330395
Thanks! I removed the tag and moved them to the bottom of the list.

Also contacted the owner and notified him of the open charge.

1. cryptopay supports mostly European countries. I don't see any Asian, North American, South American or African countries. So I don't think this is worldwide - https://help.cryptopay.me/en/articles/3415101-list-of-supported-countries
2. Is it just me or there is no card service offered by changeinvest.com (change card). All I see is as though they just scrapped off the card thing and decided to offer crypto trading, CFD trading, commodities, Staking etc
Thank you! It's done!


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: TryNinja on June 03, 2025, 05:37:50 PM
The website has received a small design update. What do you think? ;)

https://bitlist.co


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on June 04, 2025, 09:18:13 PM
The website has received a small design update. What do you think? ;)

https://bitlist.co
Well, nice update. It seems a lot more comfortable now.

I would like to remind you of the importance of SEO adaptation of the site, so I would devote a little time to that part. For example, Twitter Cards, links for sharing on social media...


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: TryNinja on June 09, 2025, 09:53:26 PM
Added accepted coins on the Exchanges list. Now you can filter by which coins the exchange accepts (BTC, Lightning, XMR, Alts, Stables, Fiat). :)

https://bitlist.co/exchanges

Let us know of any issues.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: Mitchell on June 10, 2025, 08:51:58 AM
Sparrow (https://bitlist.co/mixers) is listed as having Whirlpool, it hasn't since 25 Apr 2024 (https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/1.9.0).


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on June 11, 2025, 09:06:58 PM
Let us know of any issues.
I noticed some issues or bug in Exchanges tab, I think icons is missing for HodlHodl exchange.
Text is currently mixed and you can't even see what is written:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/11/Udf2uP.jpeg

PS
Another suggestion I want to make is adding Ashigaru wallet, that is a fork of  Samourai Wallet.
I think they even created account and a topic in bitcointalk forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509931


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: TryNinja on June 11, 2025, 09:31:01 PM
I noticed some issues or bug in Exchanges tab, I think icons is missing for HodlHodl exchange.
Text is currently mixed and you can't even see what is written:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/11/Udf2uP.jpeg
Weird that I could only replicate this on firefox. Might have fixed it, thanks. ;)

(Make sure to Ctrl + R to clear the cache if nothing changes)

Another suggestion I want to make is adding Ashigaru wallet, that is a fork of  Samourai Wallet.
I think they even created account and a topic in bitcointalk forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509931
We will take a look, thanks. :)


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on June 12, 2025, 08:19:12 PM
Weird that I could only replicate this on firefox. Might have fixed it, thanks. ;)

(Make sure to Ctrl + R to clear the cache if nothing changes)
I can confirm this issue is fixed now.
After pressing ctrl + r and clearing my browser cache, I checked all other services listed on BitList, and I find one more similar bug.
This time it is for Juicysms in Services section, even after refreshing this is what I can see:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/12/UdjbJT.jpeg



Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on June 26, 2025, 10:24:05 PM
...
Will there finally be click-only filters, without dropdown menus or input fields at all? Over time, there will likely be a need for additional tags, which can become burdensome when making choices. It already covers a good part of the screen on smaller devices.
I like it this way, but I would definitely think about a dropdown menu, at least for 'accepted crypto'


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on July 03, 2025, 08:33:39 PM
There is some bug on website when I click on Bitlist wiki page.
I see blan page with this message showing:
Code:
Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

I also noticed Bitrefill.com cards are missing on BitList website so you can consider adding them.
They have no-kyc digital card and physical card with kyc.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: TryNinja on July 03, 2025, 11:06:53 PM
There is some bug on website when I click on Bitlist wiki page.
Thanks, it's fixed.

I also noticed Bitrefill.com cards are missing on BitList website so you can consider adding them.
They have no-kyc digital card and physical card with kyc.
Could you share a link for them?


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: dkbit98 on July 04, 2025, 04:22:08 PM
Could you share a link for them?
Sure.
This is Bitrefill official website:
https://www.bitrefill.com/card/

I recently found other no-kyc cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473572.msg65548615#msg65548615), but I think they are not on the same level as Bitrefill cards.
Note that I didn't test this cards myself, so I would not use them for larger amounts or hold money on them.




Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: TryNinja on July 04, 2025, 08:27:25 PM
Could you share a link for them?
Sure.
This is Bitrefill official website:
https://www.bitrefill.com/card/

I recently found other no-kyc cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473572.msg65548615#msg65548615), but I think they are not on the same level as Bitrefill cards.
Note that I didn't test this cards myself, so I would not use them for larger amounts or hold money on them.
I'm aware of their card, but I couldn't find the no-KYC one you mentioned.

I just went through the steps from your URL and the first thing after creating my account was this page where they say I need to provide my full legal name, a valid EU address, and complete my KYC with an official document and selfie. :P


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on July 16, 2025, 09:34:05 PM
Godex, Fixedfloat are marked with a red "Not Safe" tag.  ;)

I also wrote to the owner of Godex about some cases, but it seems that this did not produce any results.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: examplens on July 16, 2025, 10:50:12 PM
I also wrote to the owner of Godex about some cases, but it seems that this did not produce any results.
Have you received any response from Godex?
Somehow, one gets the impression that they are not very serviceable and it is difficult to establish contact with them. Or maybe it is only when it comes to sensitive topics, such as freezing funds.


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: icopress on July 29, 2025, 08:07:37 PM
Have you received any response from Godex?
Somehow, one gets the impression that they are not very serviceable and it is difficult to establish contact with them. Or maybe it is only when it comes to sensitive topics, such as freezing funds.
Yes! But as I said I didn't like the answer that's why I marked them as "Not safe"


Title: Re: ⭕ BitList.co - Mixers ' Exchanges ' Services ' Casinos
Post by: logfiles on August 03, 2025, 02:19:57 PM
icopress, according to several reports, it appears Tradeogre has been offline for some days now, it still appears online on your website... maybe giving them some time? Anyway just alerting you

Also, the link you placed under Robosats is wrong. You can look into it and correct

Wizardswap may freeze funds and ask for KYC according to their TOS. It might be a good Idea to tag them as KYCneed