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June 24, 2024, 09:53:43 PM
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The information available on the website is quite helpful for the community, including information about casinos which include top sites that carry out promotions on the Bitcointalk forum.

Maybe to spread the word about Bitlist widely. Does Bitlist have an X account and do you plan to create an X account, TikTok or Facebook. Maybe it's useful for outside community or they those who are not active on bitcointalk.

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June 24, 2024, 09:56:20 PM
Last edit: August 15, 2024, 11:07:12 AM by icopress
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Quick question: how is the AML rating (for mixers) determined? Is there a way for users to provide such rating, or is it down to BitList operator(s) to test and rate it? And what does it actually mean?


I don't have too much time right now, but in general, yes... any reliable user can test any service and a rating will be assigned based on his assessment (AML bot). For example, the Mixtum rating was based on a public review (you can follow the link). And the rest of the mixers were assigned a rating by default since they were built like Mixtum on the Jambler platform, as a result there was no need for re-test.

Thanks for your feedback! Added to the to-do list!

Nice website!

The list of exchanges is exaustive, which is cool.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)

Do you think to offer an onion address to BitList.co?

Another (small) detail, I think a "kycfree" filter at the top would be a positive thing to have from an ergonomic point of view. I'm talking about a button with an effect on all tabs, because at the moment when you search the list for a kyc-free service to activate the filter by clicking on it, you lose it when you change tabs.



May I ask if you plan to add Stealths? https://stealths.net/
Using for some time now, very nice, unfortunately it is limited to online purchase or Google Wallet/ApplePay for IRL payments, but I never had any issue in EU with their Mastercard for now, and was never asked to do KYC (still a risk because of third party "myprepaidcenter").





Just in case you missed it, they operate in EU too.  



Nice list @icopress, I have to admit it's nice to have all the essential services related to cryptocurrencies in one place. I noticed only one small bug in the display of one of the mixer's names (Cmize), it is written twice and overlaps (at least that's how it is for me - Tor).
While we are at the initial stage of development .. we plan to expand to Product Hunt and add more profile tabs (for example, a list of cold wallets). There is an idea of ​​adding widgets, but I have not yet formed an idea of ​​what it should look like.

Great compilation icopress, it is great to have websites like these, so as to be able to link them to newbies who are looking for kyc free services. I have bookmarked your website and i'd surely use it for such purpose from now on.
I hope I won't disappoint you! At the very least, the absence of banner advertising should please you for a very long time.


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July 05, 2024, 02:42:03 AM
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Changelog

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29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.

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July 06, 2024, 05:15:59 PM
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Changelog

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29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.
Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io
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July 07, 2024, 01:08:40 AM
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Changelog

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07-Jul-24: Added Stealths, Bitcoindata.science, Updated BitList (wiki.bitlist.co), Tested (Thormixer, RoyalMix)

Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io
Thx. I'll take a look at it and maybe add it later.

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Icopress consider adding tag information if crypto cards are virtual, physical or both.
In our region many people who used Binance card switched to Trusteeglobal.eu, they have mandatory kyc for Trustee virtual card, and I think that owner is from Ukraine.
I know several other cards that are missing from Bitlist, one of them is from Bit.store that has virtual no-kyc and physical kyc card.
Noones.com also has virtual visa card, and Gnosispay.com is only card in the world that is self-custodial.
Trocador.app have very good non-kyc prepaid cards, and I should also mention Bitrefill.com crypto card.

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Some small notes.

Xeovo VPN launched on 2016. They also accept LTC.
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August 03, 2024, 10:42:10 PM
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Cypher card

Website -  https://cypherhq.io/card

Tags - worldwide

Fees - None
Production cost - None
Accepts - A number of cryptocurrencies
KYC - Yes
ATM withdrawal - Not sure

Bad points
1. They have issues with mobile number verification, so have to increase the card balance limit.
2. Very slow support due to very few stuff members.

I have used this card to transact only small amounts

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I tried to use your website to search for Cards with out Know Your Customer, but with Java Script disabled I could not click the 'Debit Cards' tab.  In fact, I can not click any of the tabs at all since I believe they are Java Script related.  My suggestion would be to turn them into clickable links or add a small 'pop up' icon next to them for us who do not use Java Script at all.  But I am no Web Developer, so take this advice as it is.  Anyway, this is a great idea that you had to launch BitList!

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I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".

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I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".

SolCard does not require KYC unless you want to raise your spending limits above $10,000 per month.

The PayWithUs policy also says "The sole personal information we collect is your email address”. For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.

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For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.

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For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.

I think you are agreeing with my point because I said it is still KYC free since only a valid email is required. They do ask for a name when you register but you can make up something random. Using a unique alias email is definitely recommended for maximum privacy.

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Here is a service to buy BTC via LN, without KYC:
https://maxfy.maximacitadel.org/

Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.

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Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.

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Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.

I think you can use any card, as they even accept Google Pay.

I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.


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I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

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It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

According to feedback from other customers (I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet), it is registered as a purchase of "computer consultancy" or something similar.
In the next few days, I'm planning to make a purchase and then share it here.  Wink

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You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ
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You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ

I have used SolCard to pay for a Hulu subscription and some other things and haven’t had any issues. They are partnered with Alchemy Pay so if you’ve used cards from another Alchemy Pay partner, like Bit.Store, you will notice they work similarly. There are things which I don’t like, like the fees and the amount of restricted merchants. Their telegram is full of people shilling the Solcard token, but I won’t go as far as calling them a scam. I have ignored the token completely and only care about the card, which has worked well enough for me, although I will probably try something else once my balance is depleted.

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