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Title: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Broly46 on February 03, 2024, 09:20:41 PM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 03, 2024, 09:31:10 PM
in the long run it is highly likely.
Most governemnts forget about their rural areas. The rural areas provide the food.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Gozie51 on February 03, 2024, 10:08:44 PM

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

This will not happen with the rules and laws that the state has made for themselves to guide and lead them in their activities as individual countries and as global entity like we have different organizations that creates higher rules that check against human degrading treatment and inhuman acts. Like the UN universal human right declaration by the general assembly. This document ensures that their is dignity to life etc. There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.



Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: boyptc on February 03, 2024, 10:46:44 PM
I have watched somewhere that the world is just like a cycle as well. We're now in the modern world but people will find their peace in the older times.

So, if the people are treating like as if this is YOLO, they're not wrong.

And if they're treating it as if they can do a restart, well, if you've been too low on your life and you need to do something new. It's okay to do a restart.

On this, we notice several changes on other people's lives when we get older and I think that's normal.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 03, 2024, 11:43:12 PM
This document ensures that their is dignity to life etc. There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.

Not one Government takes papers of the UN in consideration.
Most governments don't follow their own rules. The very reason society breaks apart.

Name a few cases where the UN ordered that a human right violation is the case to unarm (or topple) a government.
Pinochet died of old age.  

The UN is the worst example you could have named.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: STT on February 03, 2024, 11:56:38 PM
Efficiency is increasing, not sure I agree with your conclusion that we are in a negative or decline.   Perhaps respect for the power we command is declining but the potential to achieve great things has increased if anything, in multiple sectors this is true.  Technology but also medicine has allowed people to live and survive where many would die while growing up we can treat many things now.   Just the losses that naturally occurred dont have to be true any longer, I dont find that to be a negative but we have to be thankful and use all the advantages gifted to us by our ancestors as best we can.
   The world is richer then ever but also the imbalance from the very rich to the poor with nothing at all is massive maybe more then in prior generations due to industrialization.  This can be overcome and some efforts are made continually which is a positive for society overall, more must be done of course especially to equip people to be self sufficient not just aid.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: franky1 on February 04, 2024, 12:21:31 AM
everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

you have it the wrong way

in previous era's of religious rule.. many thought they had multiple lifetimes(like a videogame) where they dont live great lives in this one because they think they will be rewarded in the next life..
where they didnt live their best life but instead make mistakes and want forgiveness hoping for better life in the next life

however now we see people realise we have one life, so we make the most of it
YOLO=You Only Live Once

this means if the world was a multiplayer game
previous people worked together hoping if they die their co-players will reward them and invite them back into the game next reset

currently people realise co-op games puts you in second place where helping others delays your own action/rewards in this life


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: adaseb on February 04, 2024, 05:20:23 AM
I read your post twice and I am still confused what it is regarding. If you are talking about people taking risks and YOLO all their money, it’s only a small percentage of people on Wall Street bets. Most yolo all their money in some risky options and end up losing it all, the general public doesn’t do that.

But I agree with the life expectancy going down. People are not eating healthy. More and more people are over weight. Due to social media and phones, people don’t go outside. People have less contact with other humans. Yes it’s getting worse and worse.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: |MINER| on February 04, 2024, 07:02:56 AM
In fact, the condition of the age is very bad because people are distracted.  People are so lazy now they want to sit and gossip all the time.Due to this, their personal loss is caused as well as social damage. People are losing the power to innovate.They are actually very disappointing.The desire and ability to work hard to discover something new in the past is no longer present in the people.  Managing life is very difficult.Anyone who compares it to a game is nothing but silly.A day gone from life means that day can never be regained.Time is very valuable in human life.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: sekalitas on February 04, 2024, 07:07:42 AM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

It's like life cycles, isn't it? Some say "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." We're certainly in a time of easy access to information, with technology at our fingertips. From anywhere, we can get what we need instantly, almost effortlessly, thanks to AI. This convenience can lead to a desire for instant gratification, and we may skip researching information to verify its truth. We can become reliant on technology, rarely using our own critical thinking skills. This could potentially lead to a decline in our ability to think independently, and potentially, sooner or later, only be able to use technology but not to make it. However, it's important to remember that not everyone uses technology this way. Many people use it wisely and create positive things with it. Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide how technology impacts their thinking and use it responsibly.



Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: blckhawk on February 04, 2024, 07:15:02 AM
I don't think that it's possible, the people that's controlling this world and influencing the action of the masses doesn't have that kind of interest for us to return to that and even if that's the case, I don't believe that we're going to back there so quickly even with a nuclear war that would either reset civilization or destroy it, it's really difficult for us to devolve with all the wealth of knowledge that we've got overtime, the probability that we're going back to that age is nigh impossible at the moment.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: icalical on February 04, 2024, 07:38:12 AM
First thing first, after I read your whole point, what you are describing is still abstract and vague, nothing is specific so I can't decide whether I have seen it around or not. But at least I found that everything is normal in my city, I don't find any radical change. I haven't seen anyone living their life like there is no tomorrow, education is still normal, people are still going to college and they still graduate and then going to work.

In term of life expectancy there are some decrease starting from 2019 but it's not significant just 1-2 years, and probably because covid, so I don't find any extreme situation around me.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: DeathAngel on February 04, 2024, 09:03:51 AM
It is highly unlikely that we will return to a lifestyle similar to that of 1000 or more years ago. Technology has become deeply integrated into our daily lives improving efficiency, communication & quality of life. The global population has massively increased making it difficult to sustain a primitive lifestyle. There is a growing movement towards sustainable living and minimalism where people seek to reduce their reliance on tech & live more self sufficiently which let’s face it, is a good thing. Complete regression is improbable but adopting elements of off-grid living is a possibility for some of us.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Fortify on February 04, 2024, 09:33:16 AM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

In the era of Tiktok and endless scrolling, we are being psychologically trained to have ever shorter attention spans, which is basically the definition of attention deficit disorder. This makes it harder to concentrate or wider tasks or productive projects, but it's only one piece of a much wider puzzle. Humanity itself has overtaken and consumed this planet, constantly accessing ever more resources but there is always a tipping point. We see it with climate change, where the world is slowly heating up and those heat changes can also subtly effect our wider behaviors, but it takes place over a long time. Life expectancy is stalling a bit, but then again it is to be expected because the body does degrade at a certain rate over time as DNA and cell production gets weaker.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Coyster on February 04, 2024, 09:50:50 AM
Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.
Tbh i do not understand what your actual message is, the world is a large space with people of different countries, cultures, race, ethnic groups, religion, etc, and this is usually what shapes how people live and behave. I don't know what is so abnormal that is happening around you, neither will i question it, but you should prolly pass your message better and be more specific so people would understand.
what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
Life expectancy in the U.S. is above 70 years of age, both for men and women, whilst in some other parts of Europe and Asia, life expectancy is even over 80 years of age, meanwhile in Nigeria life expectancy is around 60 years for males and 64 for females, which is pretty low and one of the major causes is poor healthcare. My point here is that you should be more specific in your rant, you are generalizing everything and it makes it hard to understand what you are saying.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: moneystery on February 04, 2024, 10:05:20 AM
It is highly unlikely that we will return to a lifestyle similar to that of 1000 or more years ago. Technology has become deeply integrated into our daily lives improving efficiency, communication & quality of life. The global population has massively increased making it difficult to sustain a primitive lifestyle. There is a growing movement towards sustainable living and minimalism where people seek to reduce their reliance on tech & live more self sufficiently which let’s face it, is a good thing. Complete regression is improbable but adopting elements of off-grid living is a possibility for some of us.

that's right, the possibility of us going back to the stone age is 1%, that's because humans have now discovered various kinds of technology and innovations continue to grow.

however, if a major natural disaster occurs that destroys the world and paralyzes more than 70% of the world, it will definitely bring the economy to a halt and the production of goods also stops, then there is a chance that we will return to the stone age, however the percentage is small.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 04, 2024, 10:08:42 AM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
YOLO is what makes people abuse things in life. Lifespan has already declined and we are expecting younger generations to just lasts more or less 30 years old as technology advances we are now dependent on it and we spend less time on physical activities plus our lifestyle and exposure to chemicals and radiations that will lead us to serious health issues that may possibly reduce our course of life.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Marvelman on February 04, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
I used to think we had endless chances, like a video game with multiple lives.  These days, the perspective has shifted and  more folks realize this is our one shot.  We don't respawn or get do-overs in some cosmic game.  Understanding that this singular lifetime is all we get makes people want to make the absolute most of the years we have.  This revelation motivates us to maximize our potential and suck the marrow out of these fleeting years.  So, no. I don't think we will go back to the stone age. I already think that the human species continues to evolve for the better.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: mindrust on February 04, 2024, 11:18:07 AM
You feel like that because you are probably not making enough money to enjoy life. Life is as beautiful as it can get for those who have good income but it as equally bad for the people who have to work, live pay check to pay check and can't save any money. These people are the rats in the rat race. They can't get out of it, they can't dream of getting out of it. All they can do is running till they run out of juice and then off to the graveyard. While this happens to these poor souls, those who have the capital are enjoying life while managing their portfolio... (they probably don't even do that, they hire somebody for the job lol)


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: MFahad on February 04, 2024, 11:29:56 AM
I don't think that it's possible, the people that's controlling this world and influencing the action of the masses doesn't have that kind of interest for us to return to that and even if that's the case, I don't believe that we're going to back there so quickly even with a nuclear war that would either reset civilization or destroy it, it's really difficult for us to devolve with all the wealth of knowledge that we've got overtime, the probability that we're going back to that age is nigh impossible at the moment.
that wealth and knowledge would be the main reason if thae ever happen. to much of something is never good. specially when it is wealth. some greedy people want to control all wealth, they are demaging the planet earth for their own benefit without thinking outcome and danger of their actions.
economy is falling rapidly. wars breaking out everywhere. and internal curruptions are out of control.
as OP said Education system is ruined. I think a reset to whole these is inevitable now.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: kryptqnick on February 04, 2024, 11:40:28 AM
Op, the way you're seeing the world is just your narrow point of view, your personal observations. Not everyone's treating life like a video game, not everything is in rapid decline. This is just an opinion, and it doesn't fully reflect global processes and real life.
There are some things that are getting worse. For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Faisal2202 on February 04, 2024, 05:24:15 PM
what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
I think we are already in the stone age, because in the stone age people talked with each other but the modern world can't understand their language likewise I am unable to understand your language here, I mean I do understand the English you wrote but not able to find any context in here. hehe, don't mind, please. But seriously I am confused what are you talking about? I mean it is true that people worry too much, not living a healthy life, and consume so much modern technology that has made them soft, now this apple AR shit, people are wearing them in public, and there is more on the list that I can add. But in what manner all of this is scary and stressing you?

If people are going to live for 30 years, due to f**ed lifestyle, why are you worrying about them, besides this, how can you relate this phenomenon to stone age. I mean, in stone age, people were not making such technological improvements, they did not had what we have today. Or I just unable to understand your point here. Please shed light if I am off-topic here.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: darkangel11 on February 04, 2024, 06:13:45 PM
Are you trying to tell us that we're shortening our lives by going yolo due to poor habits and healthcare? Just go back 100 years and you'll see that it was much worse with very high number of child deaths and miscarriages. People used to have at least 3 children because the chances of at least 1 child per family dying were very high. Simple bacteria that we can treat now with antibiotics were a problem.
How many people do you know who died from STIs? How many died from smallpox, rabies or tetanus. Many deadly diseases that used to kill people are now like a joke because you get vaccinated at young age.
You don't get to hear about people who got parasites from dirty water and we could go on and on here.
My grandparents died in their 60s and it used to be normal. My parents got to live to their 80s. We're really doing better despite all the bad food we consume.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: uneng on February 04, 2024, 06:18:27 PM
Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development. On the other hand, we are indeed declining from the social and interpersonal perspectives due to the extreme differences appearing among people's traits, personalities, morals, values and points of view, besides an extreme emphasis on individualism, turning people into very selfish and egoistical beings, who only care about being satisfacted by the world around incessantly, without giving anything in counterpart.

Actually, at th current point we have reached, I consider we are in worst state than in Stone Age, because at least on those times people could work together, develop skills and have a good time with each other, while nowadays we see constant conflicts everywhere even inside families, couples, schools and between brothers, friends, colleagues, who were supposed to have a friendly and constructive relationship aiming the personal development of every parties involved, besides the positive effects these partnerships should have on the external environment.

That is how society evolved since the early days of Stone Age, but nowadays I have a strange perception about how things are doing, as something isn't doing right like it used to be... I try to find elements which could enlight me on this matter, and all found so far are these social aspects.

It's like life cycles, isn't it? Some say "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." We're certainly in a time of easy access to information, with technology at our fingertips.
The theory of cycles makes sense and I believe it could possibly be the right answer... There have already been better times in this world to live in, but also equally bad times and even worse times. The bright side of our age is the comfort and wide access to technology, although at same time it's also a cons, because not everyone is prepared to have access to it in a benefical way, as we see so much worthless and brainwashing content being developed and widely consumed by the masses full of excitement.

Accessible technology + uneducated masses + greedy, unscrupulous developers = inversion of values boosted and modern society's decay.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2024, 06:45:12 PM
The world has gone a little too soft and add to that fact that the education system is not really producing a lot of individuals who are capable of thinking for themselves and can carry themselves decently. Heck, a lot of people nowadays are losing common sense unfortunately, and if this continues, I don't know what the future holds for us. A lot of people can't even change a tire, and they believe that influencers are far more important that laborers which is just awful.

I'm wondering what the current and future generation would do if a lot of the things their predecessors built turned to shambles, and they are not capable of repairing nor maintaining what was left to them.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: usekevin on February 04, 2024, 07:11:21 PM
Op, the way you're seeing the world is just your narrow point of view, your personal observations. Not everyone's treating life like a video game, not everything is in rapid decline. This is just an opinion, and it doesn't fully reflect global processes and real life.
There are some things that are getting worse. For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.



Every one had their own point of view towards the world,So the OP also had a right to share their opinion about it.The death caused by the war was the unexpected death to their people,because many scientists or doctors was died without service to their people.The war also cause the worst economic pattern in their country.Because the government of that country doesn’t have any resources to give the subsidies to their people.If the government based on the communist ideology,the government will give the people food.The capitalist government will don’t help the people,because many of the capitalist do the help.The Covid itself teach us the important of the money and food in the pandemic situation.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 04, 2024, 07:39:10 PM
For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.


You see the poverty and do not make the connection to the 2nd point the economy is growing. As poverty grows more money is concentrated in the hands of fewer people and companies. Thus we are running into a disaster. War faring countries are closer to bankruptcy than ever before.  


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: KingsDen on February 04, 2024, 09:07:31 PM
education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true
You can say this again. I do not know about Education in other people's country but education in my country in gradually turning to a jamboree. I do not even advice any young person of my country to go tertiary institutions in the name of schooling. You can only go to the university of you want to study professional courses like Medicine, Accountancy, Engineering etc. Anything apart from professional courses, just don't go waste your time and your money. I do not want to hear that someone went to school to study fishery or political science. That is a total waste of time as I do not see any value in it.

Again, some young millionaires in my country who made their monies through the illicit way such as scamming or rituals as they may say, has made many other youths lose interest in the dying academic system. The world has changed so much but I was surprised to read stone age from Op. This means he is coming from a different realm I didn't get.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: FatFork on February 04, 2024, 10:20:08 PM
Well... when you look around these days, it's easy to feel worried and powerless.  There's definitely stuff going downhill - I wont argue with you there.  The education system's a mess.  Healthcare too.  And yeah, politics is ugly.  Wars are raging. Makes you wanna tune it out sometimes. 

But hey it ain't all bad.  Theres cool things happening too that are worth noticing.  Crazy innovations in tech and medicine that are changing the world, bringing people together across borders.  It's amazing when you think about it.  Maybe we don't live in some peaceful utopia yet, but I wouldn't say were in a dystopian nightmare either.

And as for folks just living all YOLO in the moment, I get that too.  When the future looks uncertain taking refuge in the present moment seems reasonable.  Not always the healthiest choice long-term, but understandable.  At least they're trying to find some joy.

So yeah.  It's a mixed bag out there.  But there's still good happening alongside the bad.  And sitting back helpless wont change anything.  Little steps count.  All we can do is work with what we've got in front of us.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Wexnident on February 04, 2024, 10:28:00 PM
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From what I saw about what was available publicly, can't help but agree with the education part. Yes, you can say that with the advance of tech, education has become rather easy to access but at the same time maybe because of that, education while growing up seemed to have lost the majority of its importance for most people. Politics has been, well, a mess since like a couple of years ago already.

As for the YOLO part, well, idk. This stems from how people live their life and their surroundings really so can't judge, but based on my surroundings I don't think I've ever seen one with that same mindset. It might just happen to my area all the same given the time though since I've seen online how extreme people can go when their opinions vastly differ from others which god knows was formed from where.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: kaka_Shipai on February 04, 2024, 11:23:03 PM
I don't know about the returning, but the world needs a reset. It seems as if the world is on a whole being controlled by some kind of Mafia. Like the int'l mafia who controls the governments of stronger countries, who in turn control the governments of weaker countries and they all have the same motive and objective and so on.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: n0ne on February 04, 2024, 11:55:33 PM
At some point in life the innovation and other things get to be obsessed. After that there will be saturation which makes up the mind not to think more. This is where the mind needs peace. So, things moving good or beyond the limits were kind of returning to the past life style. However this isn't gonna happen in all parts of the world. There will be specific locations and people who want such kind of lifestyle would move into it. Just can't make connection life with a video game.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 05, 2024, 12:28:23 AM
Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.

You are living in  a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10.
 I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Hispo on February 05, 2024, 12:56:08 AM
Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.

You are living in  a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10.
 I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2.

Where do you live? Because a complete societal regressiom like the one being talked by OP is not the same that some isolated iletracy or lack of mathematical knowledge is some parts of the world.
Here in my country most people know how to handle their phone and conduct basic mathematics, though there could be isolated areas in the jungle, in the far away states of the republic, where people does not have much access to information or technology or even education, so they do not know how to add two plus two. It is not their fault, it is the system and the government who failed them to provide them with more chances to develop themselves.

What OP is talking about sounds like an exageration to me, while I could agree the western society has gone quite backwards in some aspects, specially in social and economical aspects, to me it is very unlikely for us to reach the stone age, unless a nuclear war breaks out and the fee human beings left would need to start again using rocks and branches as their main tools..


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Xampeuu on February 05, 2024, 03:23:38 AM
Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.

You are living in  a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10.
 I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2.

Where do you live? Because a complete societal regressiom like the one being talked by OP is not the same that some isolated iletracy or lack of mathematical knowledge is some parts of the world.
Here in my country most people know how to handle their phone and conduct basic mathematics, though there could be isolated areas in the jungle, in the far away states of the republic, where people does not have much access to information or technology or even education, so they do not know how to add two plus two. It is not their fault, it is the system and the government who failed them to provide them with more chances to develop themselves.

What OP is talking about sounds like an exageration to me, while I could agree the western society has gone quite backwards in some aspects, specially in social and economical aspects, to me it is very unlikely for us to reach the stone age, unless a nuclear war breaks out and the fee human beings left would need to start again using rocks and branches as their main tools..
Every development will of course have consequences that must be faced, as is the case with current progress which reduces people's social life, this happens because of the civilizational changes that have occurred, but it is not the era of ignorance that will return, therefore caring for others must be encouraged to anticipating the increasing spirit of individualism. because we are actually social creatures


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: aylabadia05 on February 05, 2024, 05:22:21 AM
i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

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Because the world is wide and each country has unique characteristics of life, such as characters that are widely available in many types of video games.
Not all characters like Doraemon can fly and fly Nobita. Or not all characters are like Luffy or even pokemon.

Continuously strive to continue to develop in a better direction. Like clockwork, life will continue to turn. For those who want to be better, they will fight to avoid being stepped on until the battery runs out so it can no longer spin.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 05, 2024, 05:32:12 AM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

We are all doomed to die. Simple fact of life. You are getting older so you are closer to being dead. This naturally will make you think negative.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: knowngunman on February 05, 2024, 11:43:20 AM
There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.

You just remind me of the old school days by mentioning Thomas. I read the Op thread like thrice but I don't seem to comprehend where he is heading until I read your comments. If what you said is actually related to what Op is talking about, then, you need to access the current living condition of people. I don't know the country you reside but disregard the UN and any other charter or agreements signed. Most of the agreements reached are detrimental to some countries and the human rights aspect of the agreement is not being regarded by if not all, the majority of the partaking countries.

Thomas Hobbes will be disappointed wherever he is now because what he thought his teaching has eliminated is gradually coming back with different approach. During the state of nature, the battle was between the strong and the weak but it's now between those that make laws and the poor masses. The laws are now meant to protect the people in authority and render ordinary society helpless.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: naikturun on February 05, 2024, 12:50:17 PM
I think what you say is not completely true, especially in the section that people will die at the age of 30. I know there has been a lot of damage on this earth, and a lot of pollution which causes health to deteriorate, but in the medical world it is also always experiencing development, yes, even though hospitals and medical is also turned into a business.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Gozie51 on February 05, 2024, 02:04:55 PM
There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.

Most of the agreements reached are detrimental to some countries and the human rights aspect of the agreement is not being regarded by if not all, the majority of the partaking countries.


To this extent of the UN, charters, conventions and agreements, it is not that there are no agreements but what is happening is selective following of whatever was agreed upon depending on which country is affected and looking at who are their aligns. To a greater extent, there is high level politicking to follow protocol and to abandon it.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Natsuu on February 05, 2024, 02:48:45 PM
It is highly unlikely that we will return to a lifestyle similar to that of 1000 or more years ago. Technology has become deeply integrated into our daily lives improving efficiency, communication & quality of life. The global population has massively increased making it difficult to sustain a primitive lifestyle. There is a growing movement towards sustainable living and minimalism where people seek to reduce their reliance on tech & live more self sufficiently which let’s face it, is a good thing. Complete regression is improbable but adopting elements of off-grid living is a possibility for some of us.

Right? Going back to a super old school lifestyle isn't likely with all the tech we have now. But lots of folks are into this whole sustainable living vibe, trying to dial down on tech and be more self-sufficient. It's a cool way to balance things out without going full caveman


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Casdinyard on February 05, 2024, 03:59:50 PM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
As dire as things go right now, we're still living in one of the most peaceful times in the history of the planet. So it's not like we're fucked sideways. Can't say much about the economy however as we're living in one of the worst economic settings in history no thanks to the rampant decline of the world economy and the fall of capitalism. Now, are we going back to the stone ages? I don't think so. We have proven time and time again that humans could rise above adversity and if in any case a global threat does come around pretty sure we'd be able to pull through just like what we did in the past. I don't think fearmongering is the best thing to do at the moment considering how salvageable the situation is, and it's not like we're in the midst of a global war as well so there's no real threats to our lives at the moment besides the microplastics in our blood lol. What I'm trying to say is we're pretty much still safe regardless of what you think, so stressing about it is going to cause you even more problems than what we have to begin with.

Focus more on self-building and becoming a better version of yourself. Cause one thing's for sure, the world could burn down and everyone you love could leave you, but you will always have yourself. If you can't even stand to get up from the chair you've been sitting on cause you've fattened yourself up so much you couldn't even get out of the house without gasping for air then you're fucked royally. Financial buildup too, cause if the two world wars have proven anything it's that those who have money before the war would survive, and those who do not would die.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: STT on February 05, 2024, 04:16:18 PM
In 'The Time Machine' by H.G Wells (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine) written in the Victorian era he foresees a time in the future of great advance but also disparity where those who benefit from technology no longer understand it properly, where the workers are the enemies of those with gilded fortunes.   He was writing fiction but unfortunately it could resemble reality in that we arent likely to return to a stone age but its clear people are spoilt by technology and not fully aware of the benefits they have received by the work of others both living but also past inventions and progress hard made.
   If you are born into an age where everything is at your fingertips and a computer will do the work of a thousand people then where is your own personal achievement, it can be people are only consumers reliant on work delivered to them unseen;  I wouldnt describe this as a stone age but it is a failure quite easily.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: ringgo96 on February 05, 2024, 04:49:51 PM
In 'The Time Machine' by H.G Wells (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine) written in the Victorian era he foresees a time in the future of great advance but also disparity where those who benefit from technology no longer understand it properly, where the workers are the enemies of those with gilded fortunes.   He was writing fiction but unfortunately it could resemble reality in that we arent likely to return to a stone age but its clear people are spoilt by technology and not fully aware of the benefits they have received by the work of others both living but also past inventions and progress hard made.
   If you are born into an age where everything is at your fingertips and a computer will do the work of a thousand people then where is your own personal achievement, it can be people are only consumers reliant on work delivered to them unseen;  I wouldnt describe this as a stone age but it is a failure quite easily.
Nowadays the development of the times is increasingly sophisticated and we who work today all use technology, and to return to the stone age I think it will be difficult to happen, if indeed at this time we are still working in other people's places but it is not a fatal failure for us, because in other areas there are still many unemployed who cannot do work because of very narrow job vacancies, If in the Stone Age we worked but the income we got was only a little even though we were a laborer, but now many changes are happening and very far from the Stone Age at that time.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Z390 on February 05, 2024, 05:33:40 PM
It's sad, the older days are just always better, I wish I can go back to the 80s-90s, this are the best time that I know of, things have changed drastically, life was better when we have less technology, and my old man use to say that the more technology that human created the more problem there will be in the world, he was saying the fact all this while.

Today everything is now business, schools, hospitals, etc even doctors will tell you to your face that you should be thankful they choose to safe your life, after paying all the hospital bills yourself, I don't regret that I am witnessing all this, it's just the way of life, we will get older and die one day.

But even if one do die always remember that it doesn't ends with you, life will continue with or without you, so don't live all your life with regrets there is no coming back, I have heard stories about reincarnation,  but I believe that not everyone will be able to make it back if this reincarnation thing is real, forget the bad side of life, live your life to the fullest before your time is up.

Humans must strive all the days of their lives, call it a curse if you like, it's what it is, many people will live in mansions and die at a very young age while those who live in the slums will live over 80 years old with no issue, upon all the unhealthy environment and foods that they consume, this world is a misery pace where no human can fully understand.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: kentrolla on February 05, 2024, 06:44:52 PM
It's sad, the older days are just always better, I wish I can go back to the 80s-90s, this are the best time that I know of, things have changed drastically, life was better when we have less technology, and my old man use to say that the more technology that human created the more problem there will be in the world, he was saying the fact all this while.

Today everything is now business, schools, hospitals, etc even doctors will tell you to your face that you should be thankful they choose to safe your life, after paying all the hospital bills yourself, I don't regret that I am witnessing all this, it's just the way of life, we will get older and die one day.

But even if one do die always remember that it doesn't ends with you, life will continue with or without you, so don't live all your life with regrets there is no coming back, I have heard stories about reincarnation,  but I believe that not everyone will be able to make it back if this reincarnation thing is real, forget the bad side of life, live your life to the fullest before your time is up.

Humans must strive all the days of their lives, call it a curse if you like, it's what it is, many people will live in mansions and die at a very young age while those who live in the slums will live over 80 years old with no issue, upon all the unhealthy environment and foods that they consume, this world is a misery pace where no human can fully understand.

Sad, but that's the reality and now human beings have no emotions or whatsoever as everything is money and we are running behind money and work like robot neither we are able to spend quality time with family nor friends and forget about relatives and those good days are long gone now but eventually we all will become old and retired and when we think of our life it would be an absolute misery as we will then realize that we were slaves to the technology. It can be reversed only if human greed index reduces.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: el kaka22 on February 05, 2024, 08:14:43 PM
These overreactions never really made sense to me. Sure if you are in a war zone for example, that must feel terrible, but have we never had war before? We do have hopes that we would get better, and we are now seeing live videos from war, we didn't back in the day, nobody went on twitter during world war two, everyone decided who was the hero and who was the enemy that way, now we watch and see the reality.

However, the reality is quite obvious, most of us are living a decent life, nothing major, but we are just sitting at home, going to work, eating, sleeping, nothing really weird. This means that life is not really all that quite different compared to 10 or 20 years ago. It's even getting better medically so I am happy about that part a lot.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: huu78 on February 06, 2024, 05:25:42 AM
there are so many factors, but as times progress, everything is instant, so here there is an acceleration, I mean the time needed to build becomes faster, but it also affects the health sector, so much food is instant and fast food (junk food), that is also a challenge for people in this world.
because the death rate is only at 90 years, I think it has stepped up now, the average is now at 50-70 years, and I think it will continue to decline.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Kakmakr on February 06, 2024, 05:36:33 AM
I saw this a while ago with all the misinformation and FUD that was spread with the Covid pandemic. We saw people following like sheep and not questioning the most obvious things.

We also saw a mob mentality, where people ganged up against each other to force their agenda.

The media were also used to influence people in a very aggresive manner, so most people just dropped their heads and followed the mainstream agenda.  ::)


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Silberman on February 06, 2024, 06:46:16 AM
These overreactions never really made sense to me. Sure if you are in a war zone for example, that must feel terrible, but have we never had war before? We do have hopes that we would get better, and we are now seeing live videos from war, we didn't back in the day, nobody went on twitter during world war two, everyone decided who was the hero and who was the enemy that way, now we watch and see the reality.

However, the reality is quite obvious, most of us are living a decent life, nothing major, but we are just sitting at home, going to work, eating, sleeping, nothing really weird. This means that life is not really all that quite different compared to 10 or 20 years ago. It's even getting better medically so I am happy about that part a lot.
Doomsday views about the world have always been popular even before social media existed, just look at the different religions that exist and you will see that most of them have this concept that things will at some point come to an end, and while in principle they are not wrong, as civilizations have come and go and that may happen to humans as well, it is very unlikely that humans will regress all the way back to the stone age, at worst I think we could go back to the early stages of the industrial revolution, and that is if a world catastrophe actually happened.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: retreat on February 06, 2024, 06:54:24 AM
I also see that life is starting to get difficult now, where the prices of living necessities are increasing but at the same time people's salaries are not increasing too much. Not to mention the problem of increasingly high education and health costs and unreasonable taxes imposed on citizens, which means that many people today only have enough to survive after they receive their salary. Yes, we are heading there, where people's life expectancy is currently decreasing and perhaps in the future it will get worse if the government does not pay attention to this problem.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: pinggoki on February 06, 2024, 07:12:22 AM
I also see that life is starting to get difficult now, where the prices of living necessities are increasing but at the same time people's salaries are not increasing too much. Not to mention the problem of increasingly high education and health costs and unreasonable taxes imposed on citizens, which means that many people today only have enough to survive after they receive their salary. Yes, we are heading there, where people's life expectancy is currently decreasing and perhaps in the future it will get worse if the government does not pay attention to this problem.
It's not returning to stone age though, it's just unfettered capitalism at work trying to get more money for the bosses and much less pay for the working class, there's a reason why the virtual assistant and hustle culture is being glorified and at the same time being promoted by a lot of companies, that's because they pay less on freelancers compared to hiring full-time employees. We're not going back to stone age but we're definitely heading to a dystopia if we haven't arrived on one yet.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Ucy on February 06, 2024, 09:35:08 AM
Well, such thing happens, and when you see it happening you know they are merely people controlled by what they consume, whether it's information and foods consumed via the eyes, ears, mouth and other parts of their bodies. Like they say in their World "you are what you eat or consume". Another important word to use for such phenomenon is programming. They are constantly being program to behave in certain ways to serve a particular agenda.
Ofcourse, they will barely understand you if you are not operating on thesame program. They will find you strange. But if you are smart/wise enough you would try to understand what they have been feeding on and pretend to part of them with your understanding of how the program, information or food that controls them works in people. They would eventually understand you once you are able to mimic or behave like them but with time you could be detected as a stranger because it's not kind of lifestyle you are used to. It's hard to pretend to be like them for so long.

The goal of the programmer or programmers is total control and take over of their world. If your love ones are under the influence of the program and you want them free, just isolated them from the rest and feed them with good/holy information, knowledge or education only. They will recover, assuming they'll be willing to be fed and absorb what they are fed. Once they recover and you show them their past lives they will be ashamed and realize it was all insanity , or that they were once mad.




* It's important to note that in that state of mind, the actual mad ones could see you as the one who's mad. unless you say something sensible or make them understand what it means to be mad.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: umbara ardian on February 06, 2024, 04:59:33 PM
Are we truly in decline, or simply witnessing a shift in power dynamics? While respect for the immense capabilities we possess might seem to be waning, it's undeniable that the potential to achieve groundbreaking advancements across diverse sectors has demonstrably increased.

Consider the realm of technology, where advancements have streamlined processes, improved efficiency, and even saved lives. Similarly, medical breakthroughs have allowed individuals to survive and thrive in circumstances that would have been insurmountable in past generations. These advancements represent not merely a reduction in losses, but a genuine expansion of human potential.

However, acknowledging progress as solely linear or universally positive would be a disservice to its nuances. The vast wealth generated in recent decades has coincided with a widening chasm of economic disparity, creating a stark contrast between the very rich and those struggling to make ends meet. This issue, more prevalent than in prior industrialization eras, demands a multifaceted approach that goes beyond mere humanitarian aid.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 06, 2024, 05:50:35 PM
Are we truly in decline, or simply witnessing a shift in power dynamics? While respect for the immense capabilities we possess might seem to be waning, it's undeniable that the potential to achieve groundbreaking advancements across diverse sectors has demonstrably increased.

I see it this way. If the broad majority of people is not schooled enough to add 2+2 the way is towards the stonenages.
If the broad majority is able to add 2+2 to together and is able to repair cardboard or change a battery in their car the stone ages are far away.

Similar to the dark ages in humanity, where priests were preaching in latin so their people could not follow.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: DVlog on February 06, 2024, 06:37:41 PM
We are not going to the stone Age but we are seeing major economic changes worldwide. The power is shifting and the world economy is balancing on its own. The superpower America and its currencies losing their power and dominance. Countries like china, India, brazil aim to create a common economic zone by keeping USA aside. This can create more instability as the USA will not let their power and dominance that easily. The world is shifting towards a multipolar economy.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: dezoel on February 06, 2024, 08:49:02 PM
No not all are declining. What about the technology? They are in fact only improving. Not all are doing a YOLO but some take it slow, and they think they can enjoy life better this way. Life is no video game because once you die you won't be revived again.

There are talks about re-incarnation but there is no solid evidence that it's real. I do not know if some are familiar to what you are talking there on your other sentence but sorry I'm not. Maybe there is already a film about it? If there isn't any, maybe you can recommend it some film makers, or try to make your own. It is scary if you over think it. So my advice is just be calm. They can only be imaginary.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 06, 2024, 09:42:04 PM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

Humanity is returning back to monke. Perhaps. Eventually every empire falls. So why should humanity last forever?

The world is always changing. And nobody likes change. That is just human nature as dictated by evolution. Although if you think about it seriously, evolution does not care about creating a smarter life-form. Our human intelligence was nothing more than an accident. So as far as our brains go, who knows? We might be evolving into a completely unproductive direction.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Kriptogram14 on February 08, 2024, 08:54:22 AM
In fact, the condition of the age is very bad because people are distracted.  People are so lazy now they want to sit and gossip all the time.Due to this, their personal loss is caused as well as social damage. People are losing the power to innovate.They are actually very disappointing.The desire and ability to work hard to discover something new in the past is no longer present in the people.  Managing life is very difficult.Anyone who compares it to a game is nothing but silly.A day gone from life means that day can never be regained.Time is very valuable in human life.

Yes, that's how it is nowadays, because of the impact of the economy, people find it difficult to get a job, employment opportunities are minimal, work experience is also lacking due to the small number of job opportunities, so people are now immersed in a period of unemployment and are used to hanging around in the village hall, gossiping without knowing, chatting without knowing. in which direction, so that it makes people lazy to move to do things that can make money, if they want to try whatever work they can do as long as they don't just be lazy, because our society is now enjoying a period of unemployment by spending an unclear amount of time, the days keep going forward, no You can get back the time that was wasted in vain.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Plaguedeath on February 08, 2024, 02:42:03 PM
Yes, that's how it is nowadays, because of the impact of the economy, people find it difficult to get a job, employment opportunities are minimal, work experience is also lacking due to the small number of job opportunities, so people are now immersed in a period of unemployment and are used to hanging around in the village hall, gossiping without knowing, chatting without knowing. in which direction, so that it makes people lazy to move to do things that can make money, if they want to try whatever work they can do as long as they don't just be lazy, because our society is now enjoying a period of unemployment by spending an unclear amount of time, the days keep going forward, no You can get back the time that was wasted in vain.
You're contradicts your point.

It means there are many jobs, but people are just lazy, so the problem is on them, not the government nor companies. After that's their choice, they always say YOLO (You Only Live Once) or work life balance, so if they find get rich isn't their goals, no one can force them to get a jobs.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: slapper on February 08, 2024, 03:44:07 PM
I hear your alarm clearly. Chaos makes deterioration obvious, yet history shows that communities adapt and evolve. The concept that we're headed for dystopia ignores humanity's creativity and problem-solving

Personal finance advises investing in long-term assets including education, technology, and health. Our approach to social issues should diversify like your portfolio. Buddhism teaches us about impermanence and suffering, yet there's always hope for improvement

You worry about barbarism but ignore our greatest strength: our ability to learn, adapt, and care for each other. Though setbacks may occur, healthcare and knowledge are always evolving. We're on a route to understanding and empathy, not a cowboy's longevity. The difficulty is making sure our social investments reflect our ideals and long-term well-being, not external forces driving decivilization


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 08, 2024, 04:26:42 PM
our greatest strength: our ability to learn, adapt, and care for each other.

It took me 35 years, a caring wife and dozens of hard hits in life to get to that point.
We need to get past a hurdle, our own mind set. Which is trained on preservation.

For some people it comes easy and when I look around the youth of today have a harder fight ahead of them.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: CageMabok on February 08, 2024, 04:39:05 PM
We are not going to the stone Age but we are seeing major economic changes worldwide. The power is shifting and the world economy is balancing on its own. The superpower America and its currencies losing their power and dominance. Countries like china, India, brazil aim to create a common economic zone by keeping USA aside. This can create more instability as the USA will not let their power and dominance that easily. The world is shifting towards a multipolar economy.

America will also find it difficult to compete with big countries if it only moves alone, because big countries like the ones you mentioned also have their own advantages and strengths in several ways. So America also needs to look for other countries that are willing to cooperate with it if it still wants to establish its dominance in all global sectors in this world.

Because at this time America itself was also starting to be overwhelmed when they began to prioritize war issues more than their own economy globally. So America will not be able to do more things if it only moves alone in terms of breaking the dominance of several large countries that already have power in various sectors.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Iroh on February 08, 2024, 05:13:52 PM

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

I think when things generally get harder and the well-being of a good majority of the population is low, I would say people would tend to get more selfish, only looming out for themselves and their families. Public decorum would be a scarce trait as there would be anger and restlessness amongst the people. As things get worse, the humanity in people would gradually lessen and eventually become almost non existent.

There is always something you and I can do. And as for speaking out and supposedly being silenced, perhaps you aren’t being silenced and just maybe, you haven’t got an audience yet that would listen to what you’ve got to say.
As for our reducing lifespan, our choices in life which includes our habits and diet would play a crucial role in our health and general lifespan.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: AVE5 on February 08, 2024, 06:48:19 PM
Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.
I am here to chipping a little about the unjust going on in our world today. Apparently some persons tends to obscure the values and lifespan of lives. The porosity of lives we lives today has become a norms and tolerance as the movie just as OP may call it. The miles at which some individuals spends their lives are worth lamenting to be risky and unhealthy. The level of criminalities, immoralities, poverty and the rest corruptions with the potnetials of cutting off lives are indeed horrible and scary at justifying their consequences. We are mortal to the World but yet some of us tends to feel like is duplicated or that they/we are immortals to the world.
Yet the government plays adamants to it even at the virtue that they are the ones with the capacities to fix the system up and not an individual just like me and the OP.
Yeah some persons would say those who are living astray lives choose to live so because lifestyle is a choice. I think just as the word of God may say that "My people perishes for the lack of knowledge". This is not different from these set of persons who folds their hands and casts blames on this misconduct individuals, instead of finding a solution to a problem they feels less concerned because the mayhem never knocked at their doorstep.
Deep down indeed the governments are benefitial to this nuisances disturbing the fairness in the World we lives today just for their own self interests.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: WillyAp on February 08, 2024, 07:47:14 PM

I am here to chipping a little about the unjust going on in our world today.
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Yet the government plays adamants to it even at the virtue that they are the ones with the capacities to fix the system up and not an individual just like me and the OP.
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Yeah some persons would say those who are living astray lives choose to live so because lifestyle is a choice.

What would be just for you?
That the people with millions part with them to give abundantly???


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: justdimin on February 12, 2024, 11:50:02 AM
I think when things generally get harder and the well-being of a good majority of the population is low, I would say people would tend to get more selfish, only looming out for themselves and their families. Public decorum would be a scarce trait as there would be anger and restlessness amongst the people. As things get worse, the humanity in people would gradually lessen and eventually become almost non existent.

There is always something you and I can do. And as for speaking out and supposedly being silenced, perhaps you aren’t being silenced and just maybe, you haven’t got an audience yet that would listen to what you’ve got to say.
As for our reducing lifespan, our choices in life which includes our habits and diet would play a crucial role in our health and general lifespan.
It is only logical that people start to think that way, it doesn't really put that much stress on the fact that we are dealing with a problem personally when we start looking at others. Imagine this, if your house is on fire, and also the next door building is on fire, would you go put out the fire they have first, or would you put out the fire you have at your house first?

Everyone on the world would try to put out their own fire first, and this is exactly the same, we are all having financial trouble, BILLIONS in the world living in either poverty, or under average levels, only a few people live without worry of money, and only a few million are rich, in a world of 8 billion people having 5 billion poor or near poor, with 2+ billion living on average, and only a few million rich, you can't expect people to help each other out.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Fortify on February 12, 2024, 08:00:52 PM

i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!

it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?

Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.

there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

There's nothing new to any of the things you've said, it has existed for a long time but just appeared in different forms. In the current super connected world we do share information faster and it can bombard you if you are not careful, endless scrolling through tiktok or youtube can change the gratification level that your mind seeks out. However in general we are still progressing, if only we can keep our "leaders" in check - because that seems to be where quality is in the decline, stuck with decrepit old men who are either senile or crazy, or billionaires who have a warped moral compass. On your last point, men have been fighting others in order to impress women since the beginning of time and will do so for a long time to come.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: Argoo on February 13, 2024, 09:07:04 AM

what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.

This will not happen with the rules and laws that the state has made for themselves to guide and lead them in their activities as individual countries and as global entity like we have different organizations that creates higher rules that check against human degrading treatment and inhuman acts. Like the UN universal human right declaration by the general assembly. This document ensures that their is dignity to life etc. There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.

Life expectancy has increased substantially throughout the world over the past few decades.
The average person born in 1960 (from this year the UN began collecting data on the entire planet) could reach the age of 52.5 years. Today, the average life expectancy is 72 years.
But the maximum human lifespan has not changed much - if at all. Life expectancy is increasing as more and more people live to old age. Medical capabilities are growing, but services in the field of increasing life expectancy are very expensive, so they are available only to the elite.
Scientists say that thanks to the development of science and medicine, people will soon be able to live to be 120 years old. But this is the limit, since the human body is programmed in such a way that with age, mechanisms are activated that lead to its death.


Title: Re: are we returning to stone age?
Post by: MissNonFall9 on February 21, 2024, 11:23:04 AM
Everything in the world has a life cycle. The life cycle starts from the birth of something to its development i.e. growth at an increasing rate to the youth of the thing and then to its dissolution through gradual decay. Similarly, this world also has a life cycle.
In the Stone Age, there was no discipline, the strong were ruled, they had no clothing, and they made clothing from the skins of animals or birds. Coming to the modern age, now the strong people want to take rights from the weak in the name of modernity. Again by cutting trees and making big buildings, they are looking for closeness to nature. Don't these things prove that people want to go back to the stone age again?