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Op, the way you're seeing the world is just your narrow point of view, your personal observations. Not everyone's treating life like a video game, not everything is in rapid decline. This is just an opinion, and it doesn't fully reflect global processes and real life. There are some things that are getting worse. For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.
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what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
I think we are already in the stone age, because in the stone age people talked with each other but the modern world can't understand their language likewise I am unable to understand your language here, I mean I do understand the English you wrote but not able to find any context in here. hehe, don't mind, please. But seriously I am confused what are you talking about? I mean it is true that people worry too much, not living a healthy life, and consume so much modern technology that has made them soft, now this apple AR shit, people are wearing them in public, and there is more on the list that I can add. But in what manner all of this is scary and stressing you? If people are going to live for 30 years, due to f**ed lifestyle, why are you worrying about them, besides this, how can you relate this phenomenon to stone age. I mean, in stone age, people were not making such technological improvements, they did not had what we have today. Or I just unable to understand your point here. Please shed light if I am off-topic here.
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Are you trying to tell us that we're shortening our lives by going yolo due to poor habits and healthcare? Just go back 100 years and you'll see that it was much worse with very high number of child deaths and miscarriages. People used to have at least 3 children because the chances of at least 1 child per family dying were very high. Simple bacteria that we can treat now with antibiotics were a problem. How many people do you know who died from STIs? How many died from smallpox, rabies or tetanus. Many deadly diseases that used to kill people are now like a joke because you get vaccinated at young age. You don't get to hear about people who got parasites from dirty water and we could go on and on here. My grandparents died in their 60s and it used to be normal. My parents got to live to their 80s. We're really doing better despite all the bad food we consume.
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Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development. On the other hand, we are indeed declining from the social and interpersonal perspectives due to the extreme differences appearing among people's traits, personalities, morals, values and points of view, besides an extreme emphasis on individualism, turning people into very selfish and egoistical beings, who only care about being satisfacted by the world around incessantly, without giving anything in counterpart. Actually, at th current point we have reached, I consider we are in worst state than in Stone Age, because at least on those times people could work together, develop skills and have a good time with each other, while nowadays we see constant conflicts everywhere even inside families, couples, schools and between brothers, friends, colleagues, who were supposed to have a friendly and constructive relationship aiming the personal development of every parties involved, besides the positive effects these partnerships should have on the external environment. That is how society evolved since the early days of Stone Age, but nowadays I have a strange perception about how things are doing, as something isn't doing right like it used to be... I try to find elements which could enlight me on this matter, and all found so far are these social aspects. It's like life cycles, isn't it? Some say "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." We're certainly in a time of easy access to information, with technology at our fingertips.
The theory of cycles makes sense and I believe it could possibly be the right answer... There have already been better times in this world to live in, but also equally bad times and even worse times. The bright side of our age is the comfort and wide access to technology, although at same time it's also a cons, because not everyone is prepared to have access to it in a benefical way, as we see so much worthless and brainwashing content being developed and widely consumed by the masses full of excitement. Accessible technology + uneducated masses + greedy, unscrupulous developers = inversion of values boosted and modern society's decay.
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The world has gone a little too soft and add to that fact that the education system is not really producing a lot of individuals who are capable of thinking for themselves and can carry themselves decently. Heck, a lot of people nowadays are losing common sense unfortunately, and if this continues, I don't know what the future holds for us. A lot of people can't even change a tire, and they believe that influencers are far more important that laborers which is just awful.
I'm wondering what the current and future generation would do if a lot of the things their predecessors built turned to shambles, and they are not capable of repairing nor maintaining what was left to them.
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February 04, 2024, 07:11:21 PM |
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Op, the way you're seeing the world is just your narrow point of view, your personal observations. Not everyone's treating life like a video game, not everything is in rapid decline. This is just an opinion, and it doesn't fully reflect global processes and real life. There are some things that are getting worse. For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.
Every one had their own point of view towards the world,So the OP also had a right to share their opinion about it.The death caused by the war was the unexpected death to their people,because many scientists or doctors was died without service to their people.The war also cause the worst economic pattern in their country.Because the government of that country doesn’t have any resources to give the subsidies to their people.If the government based on the communist ideology,the government will give the people food.The capitalist government will don’t help the people,because many of the capitalist do the help.The Covid itself teach us the important of the money and food in the pandemic situation.
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For example, deaths from wars are rising, and so is poverty. But the global economy is still growing, even if it's growing at a lower rate than it used to over the last decades. Academic progress is declining in many countries, but not everywhere, and the main cause of that is COVID, so this decline might be temporary.
You see the poverty and do not make the connection to the 2nd point the economy is growing. As poverty grows more money is concentrated in the hands of fewer people and companies. Thus we are running into a disaster. War faring countries are closer to bankruptcy than ever before.
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education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true
You can say this again. I do not know about Education in other people's country but education in my country in gradually turning to a jamboree. I do not even advice any young person of my country to go tertiary institutions in the name of schooling. You can only go to the university of you want to study professional courses like Medicine, Accountancy, Engineering etc. Anything apart from professional courses, just don't go waste your time and your money. I do not want to hear that someone went to school to study fishery or political science. That is a total waste of time as I do not see any value in it. Again, some young millionaires in my country who made their monies through the illicit way such as scamming or rituals as they may say, has made many other youths lose interest in the dying academic system. The world has changed so much but I was surprised to read stone age from Op. This means he is coming from a different realm I didn't get.
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Well... when you look around these days, it's easy to feel worried and powerless. There's definitely stuff going downhill - I wont argue with you there. The education system's a mess. Healthcare too. And yeah, politics is ugly. Wars are raging. Makes you wanna tune it out sometimes.
But hey it ain't all bad. Theres cool things happening too that are worth noticing. Crazy innovations in tech and medicine that are changing the world, bringing people together across borders. It's amazing when you think about it. Maybe we don't live in some peaceful utopia yet, but I wouldn't say were in a dystopian nightmare either.
And as for folks just living all YOLO in the moment, I get that too. When the future looks uncertain taking refuge in the present moment seems reasonable. Not always the healthiest choice long-term, but understandable. At least they're trying to find some joy.
So yeah. It's a mixed bag out there. But there's still good happening alongside the bad. And sitting back helpless wont change anything. Little steps count. All we can do is work with what we've got in front of us.
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From what I saw about what was available publicly, can't help but agree with the education part. Yes, you can say that with the advance of tech, education has become rather easy to access but at the same time maybe because of that, education while growing up seemed to have lost the majority of its importance for most people. Politics has been, well, a mess since like a couple of years ago already. As for the YOLO part, well, idk. This stems from how people live their life and their surroundings really so can't judge, but based on my surroundings I don't think I've ever seen one with that same mindset. It might just happen to my area all the same given the time though since I've seen online how extreme people can go when their opinions vastly differ from others which god knows was formed from where.
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I don't know about the returning, but the world needs a reset. It seems as if the world is on a whole being controlled by some kind of Mafia. Like the int'l mafia who controls the governments of stronger countries, who in turn control the governments of weaker countries and they all have the same motive and objective and so on.
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At some point in life the innovation and other things get to be obsessed. After that there will be saturation which makes up the mind not to think more. This is where the mind needs peace. So, things moving good or beyond the limits were kind of returning to the past life style. However this isn't gonna happen in all parts of the world. There will be specific locations and people who want such kind of lifestyle would move into it. Just can't make connection life with a video game.
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Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.
You are living in a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10. I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2.
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February 05, 2024, 12:56:08 AM |
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Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.
You are living in a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10. I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2. Where do you live? Because a complete societal regressiom like the one being talked by OP is not the same that some isolated iletracy or lack of mathematical knowledge is some parts of the world. Here in my country most people know how to handle their phone and conduct basic mathematics, though there could be isolated areas in the jungle, in the far away states of the republic, where people does not have much access to information or technology or even education, so they do not know how to add two plus two. It is not their fault, it is the system and the government who failed them to provide them with more chances to develop themselves. What OP is talking about sounds like an exageration to me, while I could agree the western society has gone quite backwards in some aspects, specially in social and economical aspects, to me it is very unlikely for us to reach the stone age, unless a nuclear war breaks out and the fee human beings left would need to start again using rocks and branches as their main tools..
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Society isn't returning to Stone Age, because it's in constant technological development.
You are living in a bubble. I have seen with my own eyes people asking if 20 is more than 10. I know 100's of people not being able to open an email. Not being able to add 2 +2. Where do you live? Because a complete societal regressiom like the one being talked by OP is not the same that some isolated iletracy or lack of mathematical knowledge is some parts of the world. Here in my country most people know how to handle their phone and conduct basic mathematics, though there could be isolated areas in the jungle, in the far away states of the republic, where people does not have much access to information or technology or even education, so they do not know how to add two plus two. It is not their fault, it is the system and the government who failed them to provide them with more chances to develop themselves. What OP is talking about sounds like an exageration to me, while I could agree the western society has gone quite backwards in some aspects, specially in social and economical aspects, to me it is very unlikely for us to reach the stone age, unless a nuclear war breaks out and the fee human beings left would need to start again using rocks and branches as their main tools.. Every development will of course have consequences that must be faced, as is the case with current progress which reduces people's social life, this happens because of the civilizational changes that have occurred, but it is not the era of ignorance that will return, therefore caring for others must be encouraged to anticipating the increasing spirit of individualism. because we are actually social creatures
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i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!
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philipma1957
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February 05, 2024, 05:32:12 AM |
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i cant help. but seeing everything is in the rapid decline, I'm not know-it-all immortal being, but the rate of declining is insane. everyone treating life as YOLO, like the VIDEO GAME, where you can reset and replay the GAME again!
it is not real! the system clearly is getting glitched and out of control, I dont know what better words to describe this phenomena, education is on the rapid decline to a point it is like a city where simon quest occured, and the town is ravaged of gossip that is not true but a big LIES, such as "dont look at the death star or you would die!" the fittest survivalism is going full throttle, it is unbelievable some global power must be behind this insane decivilization, idk how they did so, they doing this virtually undetectable. can this be made into a film or into history chapter?
Or none of you have aware of what I'm talking about? it is scary moment I'm seeing something totally abnormal around me.
there is nothing I can do in real life, got totally silenced, this is where I can even sound my concern.
what I fear most is the lifespan would soon decline to cowboy age where average life of the peasant is about 30yo due to the poor healthcare and knowledge, also based on barbaric cowboy beating each other on street trying to impress girls.
We are all doomed to die. Simple fact of life. You are getting older so you are closer to being dead. This naturally will make you think negative.
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February 05, 2024, 11:43:20 AM |
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There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.
You just remind me of the old school days by mentioning Thomas. I read the Op thread like thrice but I don't seem to comprehend where he is heading until I read your comments. If what you said is actually related to what Op is talking about, then, you need to access the current living condition of people. I don't know the country you reside but disregard the UN and any other charter or agreements signed. Most of the agreements reached are detrimental to some countries and the human rights aspect of the agreement is not being regarded by if not all, the majority of the partaking countries. Thomas Hobbes will be disappointed wherever he is now because what he thought his teaching has eliminated is gradually coming back with different approach. During the state of nature, the battle was between the strong and the weak but it's now between those that make laws and the poor masses. The laws are now meant to protect the people in authority and render ordinary society helpless.
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February 05, 2024, 12:50:17 PM |
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I think what you say is not completely true, especially in the section that people will die at the age of 30. I know there has been a lot of damage on this earth, and a lot of pollution which causes health to deteriorate, but in the medical world it is also always experiencing development, yes, even though hospitals and medical is also turned into a business.
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Gozie51
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February 05, 2024, 02:04:55 PM |
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There are other charters and agreements in other organisations by member countries to ensure human rights etc. So as a country and globally, human lives will not go back to the savagery, nasty, short, brutish as Thomas Hobbes described in his book state of nature.
Most of the agreements reached are detrimental to some countries and the human rights aspect of the agreement is not being regarded by if not all, the majority of the partaking countries. To this extent of the UN, charters, conventions and agreements, it is not that there are no agreements but what is happening is selective following of whatever was agreed upon depending on which country is affected and looking at who are their aligns. To a greater extent, there is high level politicking to follow protocol and to abandon it.
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