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My topics originates from the comment of this user above in this thread where the OP is writing to seek about KYC stuff. The link to it will be at the end of the topic.

I know casinos do this. I have experienced it too. It is also in their T&C. My question for casino lovers is that instead of waiting until we win big and are asked to submit KYC documents, will you do it before the casino management or administrator request of it? Is there anyone who has gone ahead to fill out and submit their KYC on their account or by asking their customer support for it way before they even start make a request.

Link to original post described in the OP - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494948.0

Yes, you can. Most gambling sites do not make it mandatory and that’s why you see lot of people gambling without having to verify their account and when they win big some of them might be asked to undergo some kind of verification process - but I have always advised people to make sure that they complete their kyc verification before they start using a gambling site that they know they want to gamble big money on.

I know of several users here that have their account verified -for example Ahoybrause mentioned that he has already done his kyc verification such type of user won’t be facing any difficulties with his withdrawal if he should be lucky in one of his sessions and win huge amount.

I don't see any issue if you're comfortable with it and they allow it and this is the casino that you'll be playing with your money, this is insight like you know you have a good chance to win big in sports betting and you don't want the hassle of them asking you because of suspicion.

So you can play comfortably and with ease, some gamblers unexpectedly win huge money and have a hard time doing KYC because their passport and licenses expired or they see suspicious activity in the account by doing KYC before playing you will avoid these scenarios, of course there's a possibility that they will ask you to take a KYC again.

I use small amount of money to gamble. My country legalize gambling. Why should I not submit KYC? There is nothing that I need to hide. I make sure that I submit KYC before I start to gamble on those casinos that requires KYC because I will prefer not to have issue with them when I win and want to withdraw

I believe that when we know about something being common to how the casinos operates their own business, then such shouldn't be a confusing task anymore for us to be able to understand, if we really know them for this, then we had better readjust to giving what will be of their suitability because we are the ones to go by the dictates of their demands a d not them complying for us, isn't it better that before they even make demands for the KYC for us to have make provisions available for them and whenever they demands for such, we can conveniently give to them, their idea is to make it convenient for them to attract in new gamblers, and retain them by passing through KYC.

No, I mean, as long as you can provide all the necessary information to pass the KYC I don't see much difference between fulfilling the KYC on my own or when the Casino themselves asks me to fulfil them. I am also a strong believer or staying anonymous as much as possible when gambling, so as long as they don't request for me to fulfil their KYC requirement, I won't do it.

Majority of online gambling websites have their respective ToS regarding the submission of any KYC documents. Also, there are also some websites under their ToS that specifically stipulates that if a person fails to submit any of the required KYC documents, then they may experience issues regarding their payments and withdrawals.

With this, remember that there are also gambling companies that offer KYC upfront. If you do not want to submit any of the said KYC documents, then you run the risk of your payments being withheld by the gambling company (and they are legal for doing that).

At the end of the day, if you are uncomfortable of submitting any of your personal identity/information, then avoid gambling companies that require you to submit KYC. If you try to circumvent this requirement on a gambling website, then expect future issues/problems to occur.

I won't hesitate to do KYC depends on the severity of KYC details needed for the verification even with no wins at all but the site is reputed enough to complete it. But I also want to mention that even you completed your KYC on a casino before then after a while you win big that will definitely go through scrutiny process and might even asked to submit KYC and any other details if needed. So never ever think you will never be asked once you done.

There is nothing stopping a gambler not to proceed with full KYC on his account even before he wins. Casinos don't seem to force customers to do it because after all some may not end up winning from the casino before they quit and on the side of the gambler too, he feels why disclosing all about himself to the casino when he doesn't have anything at stake, like he is yet to win. So the whole thing and noise about KYC gets complicated at the time of winning especially big winning and the process of withdrawing becomes cumbersome for the impatient gambler who then feels the casino is introducing all the worthnot because of his winning to "stop" him from withdrawing. So it is all for the gambler to update his KYC even before gambling.

If ever there would really be that some liight KYC on your first registration then its really that recommended that you should really be putting up those real details rather than on putting up some fake information
on which we know that we wont really be able to verify it on the time that we won up big on which this would really be the primary cons. Its true on which as much as possible we are really that liking to play
anonymously but since regulation becomes that more tighter then i isnt really shocking that they will really be that having those kind of changes overtime.

The tip on here is that if ever you would be sticking into a site and believe that  you could win up big on there then if they do ask those initial information then it would be wise that
you should relaly make use of a real information so that in case of a win later on then you wont really be having no problems on the time that there would be some verification.

Some casinos will use no KYC requirements for advertisement. They will make it bold that you will not be required to submit any personal information for withdrawals. But if you go through the ToS you will get to understand that you will be mandated to present KYC if you want to withdraw a certain amount and above. The best decision for casino lovers is to go through the terms of service carefully and check if you can abide by them. If you are mandated by the casino to do KYC before registration don't wait till you have won before you do it. It is always easier to prevent problems than to go through the rigorous process of fixing them.

Getting in the habit of completing KYC before it is requested for after hitting the jackpot should come as a second nature to any experienced gambler. Being that it is their standard operation, that must be done. Many of the complaints I have read about casinos locking customers accounts or withholding their withdrawals are because the customers haven't submitted their KYC. I think that have of those complaints will be solved if the customers submit KYC as soon as they sign up. Another thing that should come as a second nature to gamblers is reading the terms and conditions for any change. As casinos have the right to change the rules any time they like without consulting with their customers.

I always do the level 2 KYC which is email,phone number and address verification,this entitles you to up to 50.000 dollars withdraw limit daily.I have done this as I have seen many people complaining about their withdraw being stuck exactly because of them missing KYC and as such I recommend to people to do it in order to get a huge daily limit.

I know that whatever amount I win up to 50.000 dollars I will get it no question asked and I have been able to see that first hand,I have withdrawn one time over 1000 dollars and one time over 5000 dollars in an almost instant way,just a couple of minutes,so KYC for me is something that needs to be done if you are ready to win a huge amount.

Well, if the casino requires you to complete a KYC verification just before you can proceed and play, then you should follow it otherwise it would cause inconvenience on your end when you win big and they are asking you to complete one. Especially if you know you have the capability of winning big wins. This is the reason why we always choose a casino we can trust and comfortable to play with.
Now, IF the casino didn't asked me to complete a KYC verification after registration, then I will not do it unless they ask me too during big wins. We can't deny it that we all have our doubts about the whole KYC process and how these casino store our information, regardless of how reputable the casino is.

Unless they ask me, I will probably not consider it... sooner of later, I think most gambling platforms will implement mandatory KYC so I'm just gonna enjoy this while it last lol. Further, I think it could also help me test the waters first with the gambling platforms if I wanna become their regular or nah.

I do take a middle ground approach though! I only play seriously on platforms where I'm leaning towards okay in KYCing-- the rest depends on how much money is at stake.

If the casino allows me to play and withdraw an amount without doing any KYC, then I won't be submitting any documents on the site unless they require me to.  It is a hassle to submit kYC when it is not needed yet since personal identification must not be easily shared to any online site unless there is a reasonable need for it like claiming huge winnings that can be a life changer.


I am a small-time gambler so my winnings won't reach that high, so I just look for casinos that do not require KYC to play and withdraw small amounts of winnings.  So when a casino registration requires a phone number, I stop registering and look for another casino that does not require phone number, unless the circumstance needs it.

Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.msg58974603#msg58974603)

https://www.btcgosu.com/ (https://www.btcgosu.com/)
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I think it's almost the same if you use Mahdirakib's thread or the BTCGosu site. If KYC is mandatory, it will say so and you will have to go through it before withdrawing money (any amount), if it is not mandatory then they will not even ask you as long as you are a fair player, even if you win. I will submit KYC if the casino doesn't request it, but I am registered in a few casinos where KYC is mandatory and I knew that I would have to submit KYC if I wish to play there.

So before you register at a casino, you can check what they are looking for in these two places or on the site when you access the ToS.

There's one of my friend who deposited at at centralized exchange without passing KYC yet on that exchange, and when he wanted to withdraw the money, he applied for KYC, which was left pending for so many days after several rejections of some documents he submitted. It was noted that if you don't yet have money on some of those platforms, like CEX and casinos, they will quickly confirm your KYC because they are expecting you to make use of that account, which is why you are applying for the KYC. 

With that incident, I just have this mindset that it's necessary to first of all pass KYC on any platform you want to have financial interaction on, so that once your money is in there, you can easily take it out anytime without stressing for KYC again. 

I would rather pass KYC first on the casino than wait until I have won a lot of money there. 

It is better to read the terms and conditions very well because you can see on some casinos that KYC is not mandatory but if you check their terms and conditions, you will see that they have withdrawal limit to which there is not KYC. If the withdrawal limit is exceeded, KYC will be requested for. Also a gambling should be expecting the casinos to ask for KYC at anytime, regardless of being a fair player or not.

Some casinos provide features to carry out the basic KYC and anyone can do that anytime, however casino also still has the right to request it again and ask for more documents.
So I think its a waste to do KYC at the beginning if we have to do it again later.
Like it or not, we have to accept that we are forced to be ready with KYC at any time when playing at a centralized casino.

I think there should be not an issue if you do the KYC before the casino blocks you withdraw and ask for the KYC. Infact to be more realistic, why not do the KYC before even depositing at the casino, so that in case the casino do not accept your KYC for any reason, your funds are not stuck there.

The only exception for those casino that do not have any KYC compliance and you will not find any link to do the KYC. Rest if there is a KYC link, better do the KYC first and then deposit to gamble. Also, i do not recommend, going on the news site and do the KYC and gamble. Better stick to already established ones, so that you are confident to some extent that your KYC data is safe on the site.

Having read so many scam accusations against casinos and sportbooks having to do with withdraws and KYC tells me the best bet to avoid future problems is to do all this before you actually make a deposit, #Rule number 1!!

Don't give these guys a reason to hold onto your funds that you legitimately won without any foul play get back to the house for failing to pass KYC or not having the right documentation etc, otherwise before any win comes remember to pass your KYC and read T&Cs too to avoid any drama that can errupt with the bookie or casino because you never know when your big win might come!!!

If passing KYC has never been a problem then doing it when asked is a smart move especially if you are very conscious of your personal data  8)

The title of the thread doesn't match with your questions. Answering to the title of this thread: Yes, you can submit KYC before winning anything big, even before pacing any single bet or before making any deposits on a casino. All the old and reputable casinos have the KYC verification page on account settings. You don't need to reach live support for doing it.

Answering to your questions: No, gambler doesn't complete the KYC verification on their own (without the request of casino team). Still, a small number of gamblers (the big whale) complete the KYC verification before the request of the casino team, this practice is very rare in crypto casino.

It is always an option to submit our documents as soon as we sign up on a new casino. Though, I understand why most of people would avoid to do so right away when joining a new casino or bookie.
For example, if one is the kind of gambler who likes to try new services very often and like to diversify with several casinos, then it could be against our own interests (regarding the safeguard of our personal information) to immediately sent out documents to the staff of those casinos. In reality, gamblers who register in, for example, five casinos are not going to get enough profit for the casino to ask for KYC. So, it is a matter of common sense.

What would make sense to the average gambler? Having their personal information on five different servers of five different casinos or have their information asked by only one of those casinos when the time comes for them to withdraw a significant amount of money?
That is specially true if one does not completely how reliable the casino is and does not have much of a track record. One thing is to submit ones documents to a trustworthy And big casino and a completely different thing is to do the same with a small casino which one just wants to try for some games caught our attention.

It is about minimizing our digital footprint.

As a gambler, before registering on any casino and even go for depositing, you should ensure that you've confirm and read their kyc. This way you won't fall into situations where you are restricted from completing an identification process and during your withdrawal process. This have actually been said so many times on the forum. But some users like the op on that post won't play listening ears. Kyc becomes hard a bit when your funds have become too large or over the maximum limit so they would require you provide good and correct documents for identification. Some people would wait until they have been asked, why not just save yourself the trouble in first place.

If it is me, I will preferably chose to do kyc before even using that account. Sometimes it is frustrating when you have won a huge amount and may not be able to withdraw it do to not having a kyc activated. So to avoid problems it's better doing the kyc before gambling than wining before trying do kyc.

You usually wont have to ask customer support for KYC verification.  Most reputable online casinos sites lay out the whole KYC process on their website so it is easy to find.  Just poke around your profile settings for verification steps.  Get it over with right off the bat before you hit a big win on slots or tables.  That will save you from banging your head on the desk later when you finally land a juicy jackpot but they put an freeze on your winnings cause you didnt send in your driver's license six months ago.  :)

I will wait until the casino asks for KYC. I am a private person and I have concerns about these casino asking for KYC. A scam casino could also ask for KYC too and because they work together with companies that acquire these data so that they can do it. The risk I take in submitting KYC depends on the amount involved. I do not do this for all casinos. If the casino has been in business for some years and have good reputation, I don't mind initiating the KYC process without being asked because I trust that based on their reputation, my personal information is safe with them.

Afaik you can (KYC before winning)? Definitely a lot better to do it beforehand anyway compared to being screwed by the casino when you just won. It wouldn't be odd as well if they halted the review process due to some bs "problems" that they had midway so you're money is just going to get stuck there indefinitely, thereby making you have no choice but to spend it again on playing. I guess it is a marketing strategy for them lol. As for the process, they usually have a dedicated page for the KYC process itself, no need to go through customer support (unless problems arise).

Honestly wish some sort of regulatory board for casinos required them to put up that the casino needs KYC beforehand in red bold letters in their signup page lol. Reading the ToS just for KYC isn't exactly everyone does after all.

In my case, I prefer to do KYC when I create an account before starting to deposit money at the casino and the reason for doing this is the following: nothing will give a 100% guarantee that the casino will accept my documents, so I prefer that As soon as I create an account, do KYC and wait for my documents to be approved by the casino and only after they are approved do I deposit money at the casino, this avoids the risk of me first depositing money at the casino, then winning a bet and at the time of withdrawal I am asked to do kyc and when I do kyc the casino rejects my documents. because there is no way for a person to complain when the casino rejects their documents

and people should be aware of this, because in the casinos' TOS they talk about asking for kyc at any time, they do not guarantee that they will approve people's documents when they do kyc and when a casino rejects a person's documents, even if that person complains , the casino can use many reasons to justify rejecting that person's documents and unfortunately that person will no longer be able to continue complaining and if they have money stuck in the casino, they will just have to accept that loss. this is why it is better for people to do kyc before depositing money into the casino in my opinion

Yes, I think I passed a KYC successfully even earlier, before my full involvement in using the casino.
 
This is not just on casinos; if you want to be on the safer side, once you see a platform you are making use of, have KYC enabled on them.
 
Even if they say it's not compulsory, I always deem it necessary to pass the KYC first before going ahead to use the casino or platform properly. It will save you from further explanation, especially when you know you will be using the casino for a very long time.

Any legitimate casino that might require KYC at some point, should allow you to submit it preemptively. It's not a bad thing to be able to give all the info they might need before you start rolling high amounts. It's quite common in banks and exchanges to be able to get any verification level you want even before you make your first deposit.

So if you do it voluntarily before you deposit large amounts its better both for you and them. Even if there's no option shown automatically at least a casino should be able to let you know via chat how you can do this if you let them know that you intend to become a high roller with your account. This level of accommodation is a must to keep important customers in my view.

The problem is that some gambling sites offer no KYC but when someone wins a big amount, they then ask for it. It could be surprising on our end as we never expect such a thing in the first place believing that what they have been said is true.
To ask if I have to comply with KYC. We have no option unless we don't want to get our money. That is why we should carefully choose a site where we use to gamble otherwise, we might compromise our privacy because we leave no option. In some cases, we never see KYC as mandatory on their terms but they implemented it when we win.

KYC is something a lot of persons try to avoid including gamblers especially because of the risks attached to it. Not all casinos require their users to carry out KYC verification during registration or even after registration. For majority of casinos that make use of KYC, they usually request for it during the gamblers withdrawal point.

Sometimes this KYC requirements and rules of the casino are usually added to their terms of conditions and privacy policies however sometimes people tend to Skip reading through them and just proceed to clicking agree. However a common scenario users also complain about are cases where some casinos easily edit their policies just to meet their requirements.

No, I won't. If there is no request for completing KYC process, why to do this voluntarily? It means extra bureaucracy and wasted time in a process which may never be requested from you by the house, so forget about it, unless the house demands it from you and you have to submit your personal informations in order to cashout a prize you have just won. Not only gamblers hate having KYC process, but also the casinos as well. The point is that they are enforced to introduce such feature on their platforms by the regulators.

Otherwise, they have no right to operate in many territories around the globe, what means probably many of the casinos we have disponible right now wouldn't be available in that case. For that reason, I'm sure they will do their best to avoid implementing KYC in high intensity as much as possible, and that is why we see only a small percentage of gamblers being requested to provide their data. They collect data only from a sample of the total userbase.

Since I know that the casino will ask for KYC verification if I win big, I would prefer to gamble without providing it until I win big or whenever they ask me for KYC. There is no need to me to rush in doing the KYC thing when I know that it does not deprive me from gambl9amd withdrawing my small wins.

Everything is getting centralized by the government and for casinos to be regulated by the government, they must need the KYC of their users which makes it impossible for one to enjoy the world of gamble without KYC. I can give you my data when I win big at least it is worth risking.

I do not see the point of doing this. Do you easily give out your name and address to cashiers on stores you visit without them asking for it? At least have an important reason why you are giving out your personal information. I used to not care about it but I'm more careful about it now after all the online exploits that I've read.

And if you believe at some point you will win big because you are betting big also or you are consistently playing, then, at the very start of registration to the casino, make sure you are already entering actual details. Because if later on, it will not match your credentials, then, for sure, you will have problem accomplishing your kyc information. It may cause suspending or freezing your account. Because you know when players win big, most casinos will find a way not to pay or prolong the payment or find loopholes in your account. This is why you need to be cautious signing up particularly in licensed gambling sites, wherein, kyc is always part of their ToS.

I haven't gone ahead with this process but it's possible when you'll ask the casino to just KYC you before you win big as what you anticipates.

I will only do this if I am firm that I'll stay to the casino that I'll be playing with for the long term. I can still play with the others but it's going to be my priority place to gamble.

Next is, I'd only ask this to the casinos that are reputable and have been in the business for so long. And that's why for the new ones, I won't ask to do it.

I believe every casino do have ToS for gamblers to see before engaging with them. You would not blame any casino if they keep mute and a gambler plays and wins big after years of playing without winning one dime and all of a sudden it just happened that you had won a game believe me you, every casino would want to protect their interest by following every necessary procedures to see if  the winner is worthy of the rewards and if not, they prevent or bar you form withdrawal if they are fair enough in the  position to so so.

Its like you are guessing to win a huge amount and you are preparing to make it happen. But that is fine and I think if we are sure that we would play for long time on that casino then I guess its better to do that rather than KYC would be ask once we win big since for sure we will encounter a lot of stress especially for guessing if we could able to get our winnings since verification sometimes may take long days for some casino.

That's why its better to be prepared in such situation since for sure even if we choose a non kyc compliant casino for sure we would be asked if this situation will come so I guess its better to pick good reputable casino so that we can assure that everything is safe and we can able to get what we deserve to have if luck hit on our side.

I only gamble casually, and my chances of going past a casino's KYC threshold (for example winning $10k) are low, so I won't bother doing it in advance.

I'd assume the high rollers would send their documents to get verified right away to avoid inconveniences because it's only a matter of time until they win something big with their max bet spins. They've probably experienced those situations more than most gamblers so they wouldn't hesitate to get their accounts verified.

In for a penny, in for a pound... I'll never play at a casino or sportsbook which I can't complete KYC with if the needs arise, bar the need for privacy and whatnot, an honest players will have no issue whatsoever with an honest casino trying to ensure the safety of their business and customers compliance, that's my candid opinion.

PS: I've done KYC with a couple of Sportbooks even before playing there at all, simply because I'd rather be rejected from playing at the start than having issue along the way, and I've never had any problem whatsoever with them.

Unless for a fact that one is just trying out a sportsbook site, there's always a need for KYC verification and I can state for sure that it has become very common practice for users to do proper KYC verification before being allowed access to some great features on many of these sites.
If nowadays, cryptocurrency wallets and exchanges require KYC verification because money is involved and they are regulated by government so as to avoid laundering schemes too, sports betting sites also have to regulate their sites and unlike a register of members, the KYC verification is a register on their website for members patronizing them.

To be a true member, one has to undergo correct process of documentation and that's why it's a compulsory feat to do KYC verification before laying claim to winnings on a site one refuses to belong fully to.

If the casino is well established and has a license, then there is no harm to provide KYC in the initial days. They are bound to ask for KYC for the Anti Money Laundering cases. Hence if you give them, then it won’t be an issue according to me. On the other hand if the casino is a new casino or doesn’t have any gambling license, then yes I will refrain from giving my personal details and won’t gamble there. This opinion will vary from person to person.

I also have the same preferences with terms of KYC. I've seen a lot of issue in this space that they have denied payout because they are not able to pass the KYC process. Instead of complying it the first place or even on the first bet, they are complying when they are withdrawing which also give them difficulties.

Some casinos requires KYC as account requirements, but most put it last that much serve as hidden rules and restrictions or so.

if a casino clearly asks to complete a KYC I don't see anything wrong with it, since it is part of their current regulation.
If instead they ask arbitrary way the compilation of this documentation just because I won... undoubtedly leaves me somewhat disappointed...  >:(
there is also the suspect they are doing this to avoid to pay....

Generally speaking it is essential that they have security aspects that guarantee the end user does not encounter scams or problems relating to their documents, that's why I avoid KYC in any "unknown" entity...

That's what happens in fiat casinos. If you want to bet with real money you have to verify your identity beforehand, and the most common way to deposit is by card, or even bank transfer, which have your name on them. So it is not surprising that cryptocurrency casinos tend to do that. What happens is that there was a freedom and privacy in previous years that is increasingly being extinguished. So if you are going to gamble regularly in a crypto casino and require KYC better do it early as the OP says and avoid delays if you win big.

It's all up to you.
But, if you think you are not too far in your bet, I mean making big bets then why go for a KYC? Those high rollers probably did the KYC before they even tried to bet because they knew that they would hit the roof at some time and the gambling site would probably urge them to fill it in.

You can submit it anytime you want. I am just on a level 2 KYC because I don't believe I am going for a high amount of bet in my life. So I guess it will depend on our plans on how we are going to gamble.
KYC is just meant for our own security and to avoid money-laundering schemes which is why every high roller must take it as early as possible to avoid problems in the future.

I don't usually do that, as it is just like handling your information freely, especially if you are not going to play or be loyal to that gambling site for a long time. I still prefer to play until win big and asked KYC before submitting the documents. In that way, if I don't lose, at least  I don't lose my personal information to the gambling site.

Though there's some advantage if you gave your KYC first, for instance, verified users were given free credits or spin after it was verified. Also, it can be use to secure your account and you'll be prioritized in the site. But it still depends on the site, not all gambling site do require you to submit KYC and not all gambling site gives you credits if you are verified, so it is case to case scenario.

The ideal is to always stay below the KYC radar. However, at one time or another you will have to face these problems because you will want to enjoy your profits. So, you need to say where they are coming from. Ultimately KYC will be required.

I think almost all gambling sites have implemented KYC verification, but most of them have stated in their tos that KYC is required if needed.
It can be concluded that when registering it is not mandatory to complete it immediately, but indeed the best step is to complete it immediately to avoid several undesirable things such as KYC requests when winning big and this can be much more complicated.
Personally, when I trust gambling site, when I register, I immediately complete verification and I read or understand every tos or rules and regulations of that gambling site.

It just that some gamblers ignore it and when they get big win and then KYC is requested then they think that the casino has made it difficult for them.
However, I think the biggest mistake in context like this lies with the gamblers themselves because they don't understand and try to read the rules and regulations of the gambling sites they use.

I agree that we all need to be prepared to submit KYC, most casinos reserve the right to ask for it at any time. But my experience says that if we are fair players it won't be necessary. I have been playing in many casinos for years, I have a lot of deposits and withdrawals and so far they have not asked me to submit KYC. This applies to sites where KYC is not mandatory, and where it is mandatory we have to submit it before the first payment, in some casinos even before the first payment.

As I wrote, it can be good to check ToS, but I also trust review sites and some members here. It's different when professionals read ToS, they can more easily notice all the flaws that we amateurs can miss.

Let's image you have verified your account before you win big, do you think the casino won't ask you to send your identity once you win big? they will say it's used to make sure the account didn't used by other person.

You might think after you send your KYC, it will be easily be verified since you're a genuine person, but hold on, they will give many excuses like the image quality is bad, still in investigation or asking other new documents until you can't.

In the end, it's not about how fast or slow you verified your account, this really depend on the casino.

If you have used the gambling service and have entrusted your money to them, why delay the time to submit KYC? it's better to complete your KYC directly, because you don't know when you'll win big, and when that happens and you haven't completed your KYC, it could be a reason for the casino to avoid paying you rewards, on the grounds that the account you are using is suspicious. So it's best to complete your KYC first before you gamble because that is the best thing.

It makes brighter sense to pass though KYC if a gambler knows that in future, he might deposit a huge sum of money and place a bet to win big, or some gamblers are pretty lucky that they mostly win big often then it is good to complete KYC so that they won't face difficulties when they are trying to withdraw it.

I have been in a situation where i deposited a few bucks in betting account and after doing so i was given a free voucher of double the amount deposited. Immediately i placed a bet and i won a huge amount for the first time using the platform. I tried withdrawing to my local bank account but i could not. I was told to wager the amount and to complete some verification before i can withdraw, it took ages before i could get that.

As long as you're playing in a reputable casino then of course it's on your discretion. Well, nowadays it's already common for casino to ask their players to verify themselves, many gamblers are also prefer this one to avoid problems if ever they win big. On the other side casino can make excuses even you're a verified player but I think it only happens when the site is shady. That's why before anything else, you need to be careful on choosing a casino to play in, since scam sites are also existing.

Check the site history and reputation. Look online for his bad reputation in the past to know them. From there you will know if the site is trustworthy to use or not. If it gambling site is trustworthy to use, you can either provide your KYC documents or not depending on how you want it. But make sure you have only one account and not doing any manipulation. Also make sure that the gambling site is not restricted for people in your country but legal.

It is not mandatory to pass KYC before you can start to gamble on online casinos but you will eventually be asked when needed, I know a guy that won $4000 on a casino that have KYC requirement but they  don't ask him to verify, he withdrew all the money successfully, I keep telling him he will be asked someday.

Fast forward to December 2023, he was asked to pass KYC, I laughed my guts out on this day, because he has always laughed when I told me to pass the KYC before he won again, but he failed to listen and instead make a joke out of me.

I as a gambler will always prefer to submit my ID and information first, and when it is approved I will start to use the platform, I am using four different online casinos today and I passed KYC on all of them before I start gambling on the casinos.

I am a gambler who will always prefer to stay as anonymous as possible but I can undergo KYC when it is asked but it should be reasonable for me.
Reasonable for me such as in order to withdraw big win, I will not refuse if the casino ask me to undergo KYC.
I can say that it is almost impossible for me to play in casino where KYC is required even before deposit because again I prefer to be anonymous.
So if you ask me whether I have submit KYC before the casino ask me to do it, the answer is clear that I have never done it and will never do it.

Yes, you can do that, but there are both pros and cons to that.

When you submit your KYC or complete your identity verification even before you are asked to do it, you will have the advantage of not being asked for KYC verification when you go for a withdraw after you win something because you have already done it.

However, in some casino platforms, you are not asked for KYC verification as long as there is no suspicion or anything from the management, so you might be able to make deposits and withdrawals without having to do KYC, and if you do it early, you will give your personal documents to them without them needing them or asking for them.

That's what will happens to you when you wins in casinos. Casino will asks you to verifying your account by doing KYC when you wins big so they can passed the process of withdrawal. But if you refused to verifying your account, casinos will not lets you to withdraws your wins money. That's why before you playing gambling in any casinos sites, you must reads all of the rules that available in their T&C page so you don't complains to them about doing KYC if they asks you to verify your account. If you agrees with the rules, you can continue to register yourself and deposit the money. But if you don't agrees, you can skip the casinos and will search for the other casinos. But sometimes, the casinos doesn't asks you to verifying your account if your wins is not too big and the amount money is not breaks their limits in withdrawing the money. But it's rare to see this thing available in the casino as many casinos will asks you doing KYC before you withdraw the money.

I believe the first criteria that involves you having access to money or funds is doing the necessary by filling the KYC documents or verification but in a situation that it wasn't requested you should hold on  and follow the instructions.
But I know in some cases you wouldn't be needing that tho but yes you'll have to summit your KYC documents before you win big because it guarantees your access to withdrawals.

I mean, there is no reason not to. (Unless the casino is prone to selling your identification data or not protecting it properly, which I guess is most of the crypto casinos out there, so there you go). But anyway....

If its in their terms and conditions that you are eventually going to have to verify your account, then you shouldn't stall. Because if for some reason they don't accept your documents you don't want to have money or winnings stuck in there.

It is better to do that but it should be done at reputable casinos like Stake you can ask to submit your documents so you can start playing with peace of mind, there are two things that you need to do to keep your account and your winnings safe and that is passing a KYC and playing in a reputable casino.

But that doesn't mean that you will not encounter any problems because casinos will still restrict your account if they find you cheating or manipulating, KYC is for issues related to double accounts so when playing in casinos be sure to abide by their terms and get an update on the status of the casinos, for all we know they are doing fake accusations.

I also experienced this myself. To me, this is a sneaky and unfair policy, and greedy, too. These casinos don't want to screen gamblers before they make deposits. They screen them only after they open accounts, make deposits, and play on their platforms. Only when they have to release money that they will implement their verification policies. Those who don't pass won't have a choice but leave their funds locked in the wallets of casinos.

Even so, I won't submit KYC in advance. I'm not a fan of KYC. But if I were to risk a huge amount in a casino that has KYC policies, I might consider making sure I pass their verification first before I make a deposit. It will be too late to fail a KYC when you're already about to withdraw huge winnings. But since I'm not a high-roller, I don't have this problem.

From my experience, people gamble on crypto casinos to protect their privacy but this is a thing of the past because nowadays almost every casino asks you to submit KYC but the reason why people don't submit KYC in the start is that they don't want to undergo this procedure, they still try to avoid this as much as possible, there are still people who care about their privacy in the crypto world.
I personally haven't submitted KYC anywhere and I never had a problem. Probably reason of this is that I registered on many crypto casinos in 2016 and was in their signature campaigns and they maybe trust me in this case. My funds are also always clean, they come from signature campaigns or crypto exchanges.

KYC is not all about when you winning. It depends on a lot of factor that typically involves casino limit to apply KYC or your account show an activity that flagged the security team. Winning alone will not trigger KYC since it doesn’t related to AML policy.

I have an account on Duelbits that still not KYC even though I’m winning most of the time.  AFAIK casino has limit for withdrawal and deposit before they apply KYC regardless if you win or lose since it’s the requirements for AML.

PS: My comment is based on reputable casino KYC since some shady casino use KYC to halt withdrawal from players with huge balance.

Even you've completed the identity verification, there's a chance the casino would ask you to update your KYC, just like this user https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/casinos-asking-me-to-verify-again.85932/

People think if they verified their accounts, the casino won't ask to submit KYC in the future, it's wrong.

People think if they successfully withdrew $100K without KYC, the casino won't ask to submit KYC when you withdraw less than $100K, it's also wrong.

The terms in casinos aren't straightforward, it's case by case.

If you intend to win big, you should already submit a KYC because that is necessary, at least if that happened, a casino has no more excuse not to pay you. I've read a lot of post about KYC being used against the gambler who win big money, so prevent that from happening, you may not win now but time will come when you are lucky, you can easily withdraw your winnings because you have already verified your account.

KYC is already a must nowadays, it's not required only if a casino is decentralized, or in short unregulated.

Same thoughts. For me it makes a lot of sense to handle things like KYC ahead of time. If I have this posibility and the platform I like I prefer to be in a better position to just focus on the game and my strategy, knowing all the administrative boxes are checked. It's like setting the stage for a smooth performance where you can potentially walk away with a significant win without any extra drama.

Yes I would if the platform I am engaging my money with, will require it. It just happens that this procedure is being asked to players on withdrawal and not merely because of huge profit, which makes players to notice is later after they registered or before making a deposit. We already know the reason behind this procedure; to limit minors' exposure to gambling activities and laundering concerns. There are many platforms to choose from wherein this isn't required and with that, we're free to move from one to another if we would want to. Not everyone agrees with complying to KYC procedures and for sure providers know that as well.Are there any gambler who doesn't aim to gain good profit from gambling? I doubt. A gambling site will give your winnings if they are legitimate and this procedure is just there for a reason. Condition is simple, if you like a platform then you should follow these rules, if not, feel free to choose other gambling sites. Personally, I never encountered any issue so far from doing kyc, and I hope same goes with other platforms and bettors.

What drama are you talking. The only benefits of doing KYC in advance is your waiting time is not that crucial since you don’t have any pending withdrawal but you will still wait the same amount of time to KYC verify your account.

Also the myth about when you KYC earlier and you win big will save you from trouble in the future is not true. Your account will be on hold for security purposes if you win big on a questionable manner even if you are KYC verified. You will never dodge a security verification just because you KYC earlier but doing this earlier gives an advantage to avoid experiencing stuck balance while your account is still under verification.

For those who gamble for income it is better to complete kyc in advance because those who gamble for income use different strategies to win big and bet big amount so it is very safe for them to do kyc. and those who gamble just for fun don't care about win so if they don't kyc then no problem because they don't care about win/loss. kyc verification is required for account security.  kyc never increases the amount of gambler's win. so kyc depends on how much one wants to keep their account secure

Well to me, I’m just thinking you do it before you win back if it’s an option because there is some registration required to do immediately and there is some that require you to do after you have registered or anytime you like so I will advise if you have the document available it’s just for you to do it immediately to avoid some Issues after winning you will not feel like your money is in your hand while you’re waiting for verification to be done before you be through so it’s just for you to just do it.

Aren't you afraid of data leaks? I can tell you a few reasons why you should avoid KYC even if it's legal in your country.
You hold crypto, the casino can easily trace your wallets if you don't mix funds or send directly from an exchange. People who have your data (or steal it) will know how much cryptocurrencies you own, your name and the location of your house. They will even know how you look, so they can easily go there, wait for you to come out, follow you somewhere and threaten you, or wait for you to leave the house and break in. You can also be a target of scams, hacks, phishing... It's not hard to mount cameras in a person's home if they know where they live and how they look, wait for them to leave for work, install a camera facing the computer and get where you hold your crypto and watch you type in your password.
If you own very little it's not a problem, but for someone who owns a couple million in crypto it might be ;)

Whenever I get registered or sign in on an online casino first thing I usually do is to check for their KYC requirements and if it's such that I can meet I immediately make sure to get it done because I wouldn't want to be a victim of a situation whereby I will have to be delayed or even in some cases denied of my payment because I was unable to complete my KYC at the point of registration, most gambling platforms actually do have this requirements and like you did stated they are usually embedded in the terms and conditions so it's usually best to take time to go through their T&C some times so you don't see it as a challenge at what ever point it becomes required of you.

If a gambler does his KYC before they get to win big and it be required of them, I doubt if they will be having the experience of having difficulty with drawing their funds or even finding it difficult to get their KYC verified because after a big win, fraudulent casinos will make it almost impossible to get your KYC verified so you don't get paid.

Either you verify your account in the beginning or when you big, there's no difference, the most important thing is don't break their rules.

Casual gamblers i.e. someone who gamble for fun doesn't mean they don't care with win and lose, any gambler will always looking to win, but the difference casual gamblers have nothing to lose while gambling for living will keep thinking how to earn money since gambling is their main source of income.

No one can tell who will win when gambling and how much they will win. So if one wants to gamble for a long time and has done so, any time he can do something big and at that time the casino sites can demand kyc to withdraw that money. Even then a gambler can complete kyc verification without any problem if he has valid documents available and valid for his country. For this one must choose a reputable casino site from the start. so that they can't cheat with you. Because if you are not using a trusted casino site then they can cancel kyc repeatedly to hold your funds.

What difference does it make? Submitting your documents right after registration might set you up for going through an unnecessary KYC process that you ultimately might not need; I'd just opt for it when I'm asked to verify. Just wait it out; if you eventually manage to return a large win, proceed to submit your documents if you're asked, and you're good to go. A casino isn't going to block your withdrawal for no reason; they're not going to ruin their reputation for a few hundred dollars. Unless you have something sketchy going on or are not using a reliable and trusted casino, there's no reason to worry about KYC.

This is really just that an assumption and this is something that more better that you shouldnt really be thinking off something like this because you would really be just that become desperate on the moment that you would be assuming that you would be winning up something big. Better not to make yourself having that kind of problem because whether they would be asking some KYC or not, then you would really be still that complying or would really be agreeing on having that KYC specially if the amount is big then it would be normal that you would really be that tending to comply and follow.Just like on what others said that the best choice or  thing that you must do is to choose up the legit or reputable site that you are dealing with so that on the time that you would be having those huge wins (not sure) then you wont really be having that kind of worries.
You would really be tending to make yourself having that kind of approach but well it would really be that situational since not all would really be having that kind of sentiment in mind.

The best thing to do is that before you choose on which gambling site or online casino will you play on better see or search if they are doing KYC, if yes then when will they implement the KYC, is it before you will deposit money or after, or when you will withdrawn money, because that is the common problem now in online casino, some platform implement KYC or requiring KYC if the customer will request for withdrawal and it will cause a problem to some customers, as a gambler you should be wary of what platform you will use because your money will be the one to be used so you should take precautions and measurement to keep sake your funds, in short find and use the platform that will require you KYC before you deposit or its much better to comply in KYC earlier to avoid inconvenience and to play peacefully.

Most of the licensed casino usually have KYC which doesn’t have any define timeframe on when they will implement it because they only need it if the user show some activity hat can be flagged for AMLA.

I play on many different casino and I usually do KYC when asked. So far only few casino ask me to do it after I initiate withdrawal while those stable and reputable casino usually doesn’t require KYC if you are just a regular player regardless of your PnL status.

Before you make a bet it's important to try and verify the KYC so that if you don't have what they requested for you can try another betting site. But sometimes is like a lot of people don't have the whole time in earth to make a proper search for what type of online casinos they want, they just hear about the casino or they sees the casinos advert l on social media or anywhere they signed up and continue betting. What I have understand about few people complaining about some casino being scam because they can't withdraw is because what the casino requested to verify the account is what they don't have, and most importantly the gamblers might have won a lot of money but can't withdraw it. So it's very obvious that it's good to verify KYC before going ahead to fund the account to gamble.

If the KYC is part of the casino term and conditions, i will present my KYC before gambling because I know that gambling is fully legalized in the country and they have nothing to do with my KYC, but if gambling is illegal in my country, I will not submit my KYC before gambling.

Those casinos demanding KYC from gamblers that won in their center, they need it as evidence in case anything happen that will make the government to demand for the winner KYC, it will be easy for them to present.

I don't think, KYC will stop me not to receive my money in the casino center, because that is the casino evidence to present for their gamblers to know that they are genuine in the casinos center and their payment is genuine.

As far as I know, if a user registers on one of the online gambling sites and if they complete the initial, second and third stages of KYC, as far as I know, if they win big there is no obstacle for them to make a withdrawal, except: they ignore the kyc process that has been established based on the rules.

It's okay to complete the initial KYC before winning big, but most of us don't do that, often ignore it, many of us do it after winning big while gambling, That's where the problem will occur, those who have the desire to place large bets should obey KYC first, after the KYC process is successful, consider placing a bet and be ready to win big.
There are many cases that occur in online gambling, users register more than one account, when they win big, problems occur because they are detected with the same ID, that's where the KYC process on the first account is not responded to, So if you want to bet large amounts, follow KYC and manage just one account, to make the KYC process easier.