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I've read a lot of comments in this board stating that a user is required to undergo KYC if their account is suspected of cheating. Can anyone explain how it is necessary related to the subject? A detailed explanation would be better, but everyone's ideas are welcome, as I believe it's worth discussing so gamblers will not be misled regarding this matter, which pops up from time to time.

The casino may believe that the person with the two or more accounts will not be able to provide different KYC documents for more than one account.

In addition to what Oshosondy has said, when casinos requests for KYC, they do it as a standard procedure in compliance in Anti- money laundering regulations. Secondly they want to check that the player is in compliance that is , the player is not visiting their website from prohibited countries.

I think it all boils down to the aspect of cheating, as it avoids abuse of casino account.

Government regulations is also another problem that made these casinos to make KYC compulsory. This is because the government needs the identity of everyone using their casino in record for easy tracking down of users. If they don't accept to that, the government will not give them license to operate legally. I could remember initially when these online casino started, most of them were KYC free but as time goes by they started asking for KYC.

I think that the KYC can be also used for that,for suspects that are suspected of cheating but I think the KYC can be beneficial if you play with big amounts and you want to withdraw them,you will have absolutely no problems if you are KYC verified,also like the title of this thread,they,the casinos have such policy as they have it easy to audit all the game play of a certain individual as they know every detail of this individual,the browser,the OS,the IP-s and how he behaves most of the times,if they spot a change of behavior for example to make an analogy,most antivirus software nowadays have that change of behavior built it which suspects for a virus if the behavior changes,the same for the casino,they have the right to suspect if the behavior changes.

Are you new to gambling?, I am asking because I find it amusing that you have been promoting gambling casinos for a while now, possibly years on this forum, and right now, you are asking about how or why casinos require their users to pass kyc verification, it's kind of odd and makes you appear like a newbie gambler.

Anyways, from or based on my own understanding, I won't say there is no reason, but then, there is no definite reason aside from the fact that it more like a preventive measures issues by the government and passed down to centralized organizations that deal in money between them and their customers, kyc is a way the casino identify with their users, and also keep track of their financial records on the platform, this helps incase the user commits any financial crime, he or she will be able easy to identify and go after by the government.
This is what I can think of for now.

Because with the KYC policy it can see the identity of the user, where else to verify other than KYC other than that is impossible, right?

This is one of their tools when there is a suspected account by providing documents to verify it, besides that it is also a government policy, the casino will comply with what has become the rule.

Similarly, exchanges are now almost obliged to implement KYC, even when their accounts are suspected, they will ask for a higher level of KYC and prove everything.

Its all because of compliancy on the license the casino is holding and to make sure players do not violate their terms of service like multi accounting and playing from restricted countries and the player is not minors and of age.

If you're a big bettor the casino will also ask your proof of income to make sure that you are betting within your means.

KYC policy is a sign that the casino operate in a legal ways just like banks and online exchanges, they know who their customers are and the players are the people they are targeted to play in their platform.

Short answer for Transparency.
It would prevent fraudulents acts without their notice or them not having any power over.
Like the name implies Know your Customers, It is becoming more like a requirement by the government to allow any platform dealing on cryptocurrency continue running without the government tagging them terrorist sympathizers or frauds.
It all boils than to the user if the comfortable with conforming with the rules of the Casino.

Sorry but you seemed to lack comprehension on the topic. It's not a basic KYC as I'm not new to gambling and I'm an educated person. I understand that KYC is necessary to a regulated casino and anytime they could require us a KYC.

My concern was not on that basic thing, it comes with a situation which I have mentioned, and I'll write it for you again "suspected of cheating", see that words? Without that, they might not choose to require you a KYC or they will, it's up to them but the rules of the government or the regulators, KYC is necessary to all users.

So why they don't require a user a KYC when they sign up? and why would they wait until they'll suspect a user before they will let them pass the KYC?
That's the big question now, and I appreciate your response but it does not hit what I'm trying to imply.



You dig to far with your wild imagination I like that, but the very simple answer for KYC requirement is to ensure that they are not serving a minor.

Simple answer Anti Money Laundering(AML) policy is what makes casino requires user to verify identity. All user that suspected to commit violation automatically subjected to AML policy.

Not only when user is suspected cheating, they can also require KYC if your account balance reach the amount which AML policy set to require an account KYC that’s why casino always states on their ToS that they have the right to ask KYC anytime.



This is not always true, Casino is aware that anyone can hire someone to KYC their account that’s why multiple account case is very hard to win against casino if there’s an IP connection and similarities on activity even though they provide KYC on both account with different identity.

Aside from the fact that their license requires them to do it since they are regulated it also prevent them from being abused by cheaters.

There are some accounts that have spent more than 5 years in a casino and yet haven’t done kyc verification and they are not being disturbed to do it while some that are barely up to three months are being asked to complete their verification process before they can do anything in the site.

We have all read, about how some users take advantage of some Casino’s NDBs and then create multiple accounts after being able to win a little from their alt account they’ll send it as tip to their main account until it has gotten to the minimum amount they can withdraw such events leads to casinos asking for documentation of their users.

I think it's not only casino but other industry as well that deals with money does have KYC. AFAIK, in our country, KYC is mandatory on banks and pawnshop but it could be different with casino since they can attract more gamblers if they will not ask for KYC, but due to the government regulation they are oblige to comply on that, otherwise they'll be penalize and worst their license will be revoke.

When crypto casinos were introduced in the early stage, they don't talk about KYC, in fact they are very aggressive in marketing their anonymous gambling but as we all know, when bitcoin gets popular the government slowly controlling us, that's why exchanges gets regulated and now the casinos. When an account is suspected of cheating, it's normal they'll ask for KYC so if they found out after the investigation that the user did really violate the TOS and that they could file a legal case, they know whom they'll go after with.

Because they would lost many potential gamblers, haven't you see when a new casino post ANN thread in this forum, then there's always a person asking "why you ask KYC upon registration? please remove this requirement or I won't gamble here".

If you're the casino owner, what's your reaction? obviously if you able to remove it, you will remove it.

Casino is a profit oriented business, what they do is to make sure people gamble in their casino and loss the money as much as possible.

It’s because cryptocurrency is not considered as money or not regulated that’s why KYC is not required. You can consider cryptocurrency as play money or token with no value before that’s why government is not interested to regulate it.

Now that crypto market has thrillion dollar marketcap. Government will surely regulate crypto due to the money involved which money launderers now use online.

what is a suspicion or bad thought from gamblers is the momentum of KYC requests which often coincides with the process of withdrawing winnings of a certain amount.
I actually don't have a problem with casinos asking for KYC, but maybe every casino can ask for KYC when users start registering an account. and it is mandatory.

When it comes to money laundering, perhaps casino compliance can detect an account when there are large deposits and the account makes suspiciously small bets. After playing, withdraw all funds.
For a long time, casinos have been accused of money laundering.

There are many things that can benefit casinos if they implement KYC, the most basic of which is to prevent their users from cheating on promos & bonuses which are likely to be exploited. In addition, just like CEX, casinos also do not want to be involved in illegal activities such as money laundering, therefore they implement KYC as a form of their AML.

I only know that, and I'm sure there are many more that have not been revealed, I hope I can also get a lot of input from discussions on this topic.

I will try to be as brief as possible and also straight to the point.


When casinos demand for KYC documents for multiple accounts suspension what their aim at is to eliminate one of those accounts by the use of documents verification because it is no way possible for one person to provide verification for two accounts so therefore when such happens the abuser will be forced to abandoned one of such account.


But in the case where those accounts have been used to cheat and abuse the casino bonus system it may lead to further action even if the gambler provide KYC documents.

OK bud, indeed, I misunderstood, and sorry about that, with your better explanation above, I can say that I better understand what you meant now.
And to once again, attempt answering the question, I would that not all casino actually do not make kyc mandatory at the registration level, some big casino have implemented this measure, Stake for example used to be a supposed kyc free casino, but last year, they turned around to make kyc verification mandatory at registration level for new users, while the Old users are allowed to use the casino normally until when ever they themselves decide to apply for verification or the casino request it from them.

And diving into the answer more properly now, It is true that the government mandate to all regulated online casinos was to request kyc verification from all users, but you and I know that most times, government make policies without considering the end consumers, and service providers like the casinos, know better than the government since they are more closer to the end consumers than the government, government make policies, and the casino are still at the liberty to tweak such policy in a way it will favor their business, that is, in a way they will still find customers to patronize them, considering the level of competition between casinos (both regulated and non regulated), and considering that most gamblers hate kyc.
If a casino still looking for more gamblers is to make kyc verification mandatory at registeration for all new registrants, trust that that casino will lose alot of potential customers, this is why many of them usually allow users to register and play with kyc verification, and only request it when they like, mostly time when theyve possible made good money from the player, and no longer care if the customer leaves or not. 😂

Lolz, that's still part of it, but I like the fact you said "the very simple answer, simple answers aren't always the best answers if you will agree with.
And you also will agree that kyc have not stopped minors from gambling, many online casinos are still serving minors without knowing, even when they ask the minor to kyc, he or she still can used the document of his or her older relative or friend to pass the kyc verification.

Anyways, thanks for bringing such an interesting discussion to the forum this beautiful Saturday. 😎

FYI it’s possible and cheaters usually ask their friend, mom, neighbors and other guy online in exchange for money just to undergo this KYC. In some countries especially 3rd world country, they don’t value much privacy that’s why they can easily accept any KYC offer in exchange for money.

Check our services section, there’s some user that offer KYC verification on your casino account in exchange for payment. This is a proof that it’s easy to provide other people KYC on your account if you are willing to pay.

They do that its because they want to verify if the user is not doing forbidden to do on their casino and usually this will only occur is the user is suspected to have multiple accounts or the person win a huge prize and KYC is been ask so they can verify if they are reaching the real owner before they give the rewards. Also AML law is one of the reason why it happens so we should never get surprised about this since KYC to reputable casino is seems a major requirements for them before you can gamble or ask for withdrawals. So for us to avoid issues maybe the one important thing we need to avoid is those new or well know scams and directly go to legit casino so providing our KYC details will not give us any worries since we can assure some safety since they are big company and for sure they would handle our identity safe from any negative things that we could able to imagine.

At this point ask why, it is there in the terms and conditions, in some casinos it is random, in others it is mandatory and in some they simply apply what KYC means, know your customer.

 There are various levels of KYC, some casinos will only ask you for a phone number, etc.  The question in practice is not why they do it but who asks you to do it, that's why I registered their account in recognized casinos.

The casino asks you to complete the KYC in the following cases:

1.) If you are suspected of having many accounts and you are a bonus hunter.

2.) You use the casino as a mixer without actually engaging in gambling.

3.) Suspicion that you topped up your account with stolen money.

4.) If you win big and request a withdrawal of funds, then in order to avoid problems with the AML policy (sometimes to delay or refuse payment), the casino asks for the KYC.

As far as I know, these are the main reasons. Perhaps other ToS violations also lead to a request for KYC, but they are more rare.

Casinos often do this to make sure that the account owner is a true person and that they are not involved in multiple accounting that takes advantage of bonuses and referrals. As to it being related to cheating, they're probably checking common databases to see if the person in question has been involved in similar activities before. It also kind of 'deters' the user to do stop whatever illegal activities are they using because the platform knows their identity, which makes it easier for them to call the authorities and raise the proper report.

Do you want to hear a wild guess? the casino ask KYC without any reason, they want to collect KYC from active gamblers and sell the data to other people. ::)

There's no valid answer, different casino will give different reason. They can use this "KYC problem" to have a time before they allow your withdrawal, it could be they don't have enough bankroll, they want to confiscate your funds by let you waiting too long until you give up etc.

And it's easy to dodge, the minor just need to use his big brother or parents identity instead.

Anytime this kind of rule is been stated on their terms and conditions on which on the time that they would really be asking some KYC.

1. User violation
2. Deposit/Withdrawal Threshold

On the time that you would really be able to hit up these lines then you would really be asked out about into such information. Most like this would be applied into those
who make out some violations on multi-accounting on which on the time that they do get caught then the team or admin will surely be asking for some verification.
If it cant be proven out then for sure it would really be locking up the funds as per terms and conditions been stated and been agreed upon earlier.

As a non cheater gambler then most likely you would be facing up these KYC on the time that you do hit up some threshold on which this is something
that will really be your main problem if you do really value privacy that much.

Enforcing KYC on suspicion of cheating maybe uesful when the cheat is around referral or taking deposit bonuses or contest prizes. Most of the casino forbids multiple account and KYC might make it difficult for the cheater to verify the accounts he/she is using are linked to different people. They might also want to get KYC to blanket ban the person in future and in worse case scenario, go through legal actions. KYC on the other hand have multiple uses. KYC standards were actually enforced to restrict money laundering and any place people may use to launder that money are legally required to ask for KYC.

My understanding and as far as I know, each online casino has its own background and rules, the KYC process for some casinos is mandatory and some don't care about it, the understanding of KYC varies greatly, depending on the casino itself.

In general, I know for this reason: No, It's Not Okay to Create Multiple Accounts At An Online Casino! (https://www.co-optimus.com/blog/article-poster/2702/no-it-s-not-okay-to-create-multiple-accounts-at-an-online-casino.html), why should casinos require identity verification, if you want to know you can see the reasons there 👆
Common reasons why KYC verification is mandatory for online casinos.

Cheating covers a wide and broad range of topics that a person may be suspected. It covers all forms of cheating, such as using third-party programs, providing false information, etc.

Now, if an online gambling casino suspects that a certain account is cheating, submitting KYC documents is necessary to know if it validates the form of cheating in which the account was suspected of using. For example, if the online gambling casino sees from his IP address that he is using VPNs, which is exclusively listed as illegal to use on their ToS, submitting their KYC documents can verify on where that person is staying.

At the end of the day, it is definitely within the discretion of the online gambling company to require KYC to their customers. Not only does this imply good faith on the part of the person, it also means that they are willing to comply with all the said requirements that they require.

It's not specifically for cheating necessarily. It may just be a due process whenever withdrawal happens since KYC was mainly made to prevent Money laundering from happening through casinos. At least, that's the main reason for the creation of KYC afaik. There may also be plus sides for the casino, e.g. customer profiling and data statistics and stuff that they can use to improve the marketing of their services towards places that have less users compared the ones that have more.

If it was cheating specifically, to hell be about KYC, they'd just straight up ban both the account and the IP of the user imo.

Another reason that I think makes casinos to require users to verify their identity through the KYC method is still to prevent underage people from gambling on their platform because by law they are some particular documents when issued that will clearly state the age a person is, as well as a passport photograph of the person which should match facial verification. These things are difficult for underage people to fake hence can be discouraging to those who wish to try gambling from an unqualified age.

If the casino suspect anything is unusual then they have all the right to seek the verification of KYC documents even if the user did it earlier. And it will be helpful to avoid one who abuses the bonuses via multi-account but it's on the lowe tier compared to identifying people who use the platform to launder the money by depositing and wager with the least possible risk and then withdraw the money in such cases the users will be required to provide a source of funds as well.

Most casinos offer generous bonuses to gamblers and this can be abused. Bonus abuse is one of the reasons why casinos ask for KYC. Some gamblers use multiple accounts to get these benefits from casinos meanwhile these bonuses are designed for individuals and not for accounts. Creating different accounts to take advantage of these bonuses is against the ToS, therefore the casino can ask for KYC to verify the account of gamblers. This


KYC requirements might have totally stopped underage gambling but it has placed some level of restrictions. This practice has reduced underage gambling to a large extent. Even when these young lads use the KYC of their elder siblings, a higher level of KYC will expose their real age. Any person who intentionally gives his younger siblings his document to pass KYC deserves to be sanctioned.

Have been discussed a couple of times actually. One is for extra security; familiar with instances accounts were being stolen and funds were being withdrawn without actual owner's consent. Another is accessibility to minor individuals or people who are below 18 years old and below. Although in some platforms IDs are being tampered which is one of the limitation of KYC, well at least instances are somehow lessen. Last I guess is with money laundering which is basically against the law. I do understand that some people are against this procedure because they are worried that their identity might be used to illegal activities. Fortunately, I haven't had any negative experience from complying so maybe it still depends on the platforms you engage yourself with.

Yeah exactly. As we all know that the casinos some of them if not most comply with regulations that is why it is required for them to undergo KYC with their users. There are actually a lot of things that users must comply to be able to be eligible playing within the platform though a lot of gamblers see this as a disadvantage to them if they value privacy but yeah that is what it is they comply then we all comply.

I believe it is about people who cheat to me more reluctant on giving their personal information and identity documents to a casino (assuming we are talking about someone who is actually cheating).
The best case scenario in the eyes of someone who tries to cheat a casino is to do so and do not catch the attention of the staff of such casino, so they can allow the funds in their account for sometime before trying to get them off the casino into the Blockchain.
It is an standard for casinos to ask for personal documents as soon as they suspect there is something fishy going on, so just to make sure they are not dealing which someone who is not supposed to gamble, they ask for KYC.

That is besides the obvious reasons concerning Anti Money Laundering.

I don't have any experience with casino platforms for KYC issues, but I've seen some services that I used fall for database attacks. I don't think any platform is truly immune to this, so the only way to decrease the risk is to avoid KYC if possible. I don't think my opinion will change unless we can verify how a company manages their user data, since some of them were found to do some terrible security practices even though they're a big company. It makes me wonder why the government doesn't enforce or give sentences to any company that has terrible database security, which should improve how a company protects customers' data a little bit.

Kyc is very important especially when gambling on the centralized gambling platform and like I do, I encourages people to pass kyc before even depositing any funds if that site requires kyc to avoid account limitation. On a norm not everyone who loves revealing their identity and to adhered to their AML bettors needs to pass kyc when the system suspect a high amount in a particular account, most times some of them don't mind freezing the account on till its passes personal document verification, most of the casino uses that medium to seize people fund if they weren't able to complete their verifications.

Casinos request for KYC with different reasons, to prevent underage gamblers, to prevent multiple accounts and cheating, for the sake of money laundering cases, to enable their customers have access to all the futures of the casinos. Some of those people that are involving in money laundering are seeking for any means to clean the money and they can use casinos to clean the money but if it is a casinos that request for KYC, it will be difficult for those thiefs to clean the money because they will surely need to pass KYC and their identity will be captured. That's the major reason for KYC requirements that I know.

Do you mean cheating or a suspicion of cheating? I think that the casino has to first suspect that there is a fowl play going on with a user account and then would restrict the account why they request for KYC before they make a final conclusion that indeed cheating happened.

Yeah, the reason why casinos require users to submit KYC for verification is no different from why centralized exchanges and other banks apps or other companies that offer some kind of financial services do too. If the account user is caught cheating or flouting the casino rules, their accounts will be banned. If they are caught breaking the rules of country like laundering, their details will be submitted to INTERPOL, EUROPOL or other security agencies.

Here's some of the reasons that I can think of:

• They might be preventing the use of multiple accounts which can lead to the abuse of bonuses and privileges, casinos are dealing with money after all, it's a bad idea to not be a vigilant business owner for something like this.
• This should've been the first because this is the biggest reason but I'm half drunk right now, they do KYC to prevent potential money laundering being committed in their website/casino, after all when they don't prevent it, they're going to be the one that's going to be squished in the middle during the prosecution. Launderers use mules to fake bets and gamble a little and then bring out the money that's left to make it look like you've quit gambling on your first, second, or third gamble and once they let it through that, they're going to consider it as a clean money.

There's probably more that I've never mentioned but this two are the major ones that came at the top of my head reading at this thread.

Not every casino provides a feature to carry out KYC, some even refuse their users to do a KYC since the beginning.
And usually users are only allowed to carry out the basic KYC, the casino will ask and has the right to ask for the advanced level if necessary.
So in my opinion, its useless to do KYC at the beginning and after doing KYC it doesnt mean that we have been whitelisted.

Cheating can mean the gambler is using multiple accounts to take advantage of a casino's features or promotions. And by the terms of the casino, multi accounts is a forbidden practice, which is severily punished once caught by the house's operators. In order to find out if a gambler is doing such practices, the casino may demand KYC procedure from him, so he will inevitably have to provide different IDs to prove each account belongs to a different person. However, if a single gambler is using all the accounts simultaneously, he won't have how to pass through KYC procedure.

That is why it's necessary to undergo through KYC when the casino is suspecting someone is cheating on them. As we can see, both subjects are directly connected.

this is just an opinion of mine, but my guess is that if they ask for KYC upfront it might deter gamblers who are looking for casinos to try, I mean, I for one avoid casinos that require KYC upon registration. sa for why they wait until they suspect the user of cheating, I guess they want to make sure to Identify the gambler and prevent potential cheating in the future by the same gambler. also, I am sure there are other reasons why they only once they suspected a user is cheating.

Do you know that when you have fund inside your account it become more difficult to pass kyc why because the system will be very sensitive to detect errors that could come from your document, if some casino doesn't asked for kyc then it means that they web3 (decentralized platform) where you only need connect your wallet to gamble or you create your wallet on their platform which you would still have the keys of that wallet then you can make deposit at anytime. This type of casino doesn't asked for kyc from the origin except otherwise deem necessary for them asked maybe if you violate any of their rules.

I doubt if we've got any gambler that doesn't know the reason why casinos request for KYCs...well, if that was the case, I'd say KYCs are generally and compulsorily initiated by every individual regardless of who they are and whether or not they have multiple accounts. I believe even a kid knows about the recent money laundering sagas and how the governments are fighting to keep away from it - IMHO, crypto casinos would be one the smartest ways to move tainted coins, assuming there wasn't anything like KYC(know your customer)

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Also, you might fall into a case of intrusion, by either your close friends or families... They can't have an access to your account for withdrawals of any sort ^{[even though the passcodes code be saved to the device you're using.]}

Maybe they have some kind of database, when someone is suspected of cheating, they ask for KYC and then put him in the database. You know when we read the comments of some casinos they must not disclose how they detect various scammers. For sure there is some database of all suspicious people, with personal data, IP addresses they used, a description of their cheating methods...


A detailed answer can only come from someone who has worked in a casino at a higher level, every casino certainly has its own ways of fighting fraudsters. One thing is certain their job is not easy at all... Today it is so easy to find KYC documents and change IP addresses, it is a struggle that will never end.

Casinos sometimes demand KYC when  they observe discrepancies in the details of their customers. They do that so as to make sure  there is no issues in withdrawal as it is possible that someone might fake identity to steal from someone's account or when they notice a different IP login from that account for withdrawal which looks strange to them. In that case, to be on the safe side protecting the account and their brand, they lock the account and demand for KYC to verify the identity of the ownership of the account.

There are many reason for that. One of the main reason is to this requires to get licensed from the company policy.
And now why they required this ? Because to prevent the Money laundering, funding the ter*rorist organisation, and as well as preventing  the underaged gambling.  In fact, the main point is that not only good people live in this world but also many bad people live here and for this reason it is necessary to apply these policies.

The money laundering people use the gambling site to do the money laundering,in order avoid such things.Most of the gambling site enable the kyc as the initial requirement to do play of the gambling game.This will monitor by the gambling site the huge amount of the deposit,the transaction fee in the gambling site also low.So the money laundering people use the gambling site often in the past.The second reason was to avoid the same person to create the multiple accounts in the gambling site and to avoid of the gambling multiple winning money to the same account,the gambling site should give equal opportunity to all the players to make the money based on their skills.

If the same person play with the same game with the multiple accounts,it was easy to win the money and this is not the ethical way in the gambling site.This also help the gamblers to get addicted to the gambling site by the huge loss if they play with multiple accounts based on the skills.

This might be part of their security measure to detect fraud and laundering, also they are regulated and they have no choice but to follow the regulations especially regarding KYC. Though it’s sad to see KYC in crypto gambling but I guess we can’t escape this one as most of the top casinos are already asking for the KYC and yeah we also want to gamble on a site with a license so either we deal with this or look for alternatives.

They usually claim their gambling licenses require to KYC their customers, they also invoke AML laws and regulations, those accepting fiat currencies can also pretend to be forced by their banking partner like some exchanges say. But in reality it's mostly to be able to detect and prevent multi-account abusers who cheat bonuses, promotions of tournaments and also to be able to ban more efficiently good bettors who are able to earn money from them in the long run instead of giving money to them.

KYC is also important to discourage criminals from using the casino websites since they know that at some point they will have to submit those documents, they will stay far away from patronizing the casinos because they do not draw attention to themselves. Criminals who want to launder money cannot because kdn

They need to make the verification process as part of the normal procedures needed to make them have a control over their users, avoid scam and hack on the user account, this will prevent any third party from having access on the gamblers account and take over when they are not the real holders, It is also important that the gamblers be able to know their limit and ensure they have every required information's needed for their identity before starting with the use of any casino.

Some casinos even request for KYC before even using their platform. The main reason casinos require KYC is to protect their business the authorities who will come heavily against them if illicit funds passes through their platform. In other words, KYC is used to fight against money laundering,  terrorism financing, drug and human trafficking and other financial crimes. Even though I'm not too comfortable with KYC due to privacy, I just gave the reason why casinos implement such.

Cheating is strictly prohibited in all casinos, as it could ruin the reputation of a certain casino, and as an effect, will also leave a negative impact on the cheater itself that may lead being banned to all regulated casinos. This is why KYC verification has been made compulsory, in order to protect the casino out from all forms of cheating, and to protect the gamblers inside the casino not to be cheated or experienced the cheating scenarios. With this, although KYC is somewhat breaking our anonymity, but we all know it’s all done also not just for the safety of the casino itself but as well as to the gamblers themselves.

a normal circumstances a verification of any account it is based on to know the individual who owns the account very well so that when I know issues come up they will know the direction they can trust trace the person and noticed, the person, I know quite well that whosoever that is having any accusation on its account and the person have done a verification that accusation will not be valued because anyone who present its document is no longer doing illegal he knows what it is doing

That is true, that is why licensed casinos are implementing the KYC/AML policy aside from battling the multi-account of players, who are abusing some of their promos or bonuses. Money laundering is usually the common reason why some high rollers are using casinos - that is, to wash their money. However, with the KYC protocol, the casino is being protected in case the authorities come knocking on their door. As they have the information of their users, they can give it to the authorities if there is legal basis given to them.

What sort of cheating do you mean, is about the gambler cheating in games or having multiple accounts with one casino? In the case of multiple to one casino surely KYC will be able to reveal because a single individual can't use same particulars to pass KYC in different accounts, he will be caught in the process. I think casinos'ask for KYC when certain account are suspected to be owned by one individual just so they can prevent against abuse of bonuses and other offers and their policy too

Certainly, the significance of KYC with respect to online wagering is no trifling matter and well worth consideration. KYC stands for Know Your Customer, which is a process used by a gambling operator to verify the identity of their players and ensure that they are in compliance with the laws and regulations that apply to them.

A core reason why KYC holds such importance lies in its capability to act as a bulwark against fraudulent activities and money laundering. By verifying the identity of the players involved, operators can ascertain that the individual engaging in gambling is indeed who they claim to be, thus ensuring that they are not misrepresenting themselves through the use of falsified or suspicious identity documents. This act serves to uphold the integrity of online gambling by preventing unauthorized participation from dishonest players. In addition to this, KYC also plays a pivotal role in ensuring the security and well-being of the players themselves. Through checks on both identity and age, operators can guarantee that individuals do not place themselves or others at risk through irresponsible wagering, an action inclusive of denying those below the legal gambling age access to online gambling platforms. In other words, implementing KYC also helps build trust between operators and players.

some people who have a different or a multiple account is people that always have issue for verification of account and the mainly they are the people who is cheating for any gambling platform because to verify the account they will find it very difficult so that is why request platform of Casino gambling or other gambling always request for kyc verification

Aside from the multiple accounts issue, casinos are often required by their gambling licensing firm (in some cases, not all) to collect customer id documents especially if the amount exceeds a  certain amount — say $1K and above. Most of the reports you see in forum are thousand multiples hence whry the requirements. Smaller withdrawals usually fly under the radar.

Additionally, if there are manipulative behaviors spotted, it can be flagged for KYC. In some cases, the casino might just outright want to do it on their own accord.

I feel like out of all common topics here in this board this is one of those that needs to be reiterated no matter how many times it’s required. People will not understand from the get-go why it’s so important tohave some verification system especially in the casino industry and questions like this will always be there no matter what.Regardless, here are some of the reasons why KYC is a thing in most casinos, reputable ones at least.

1. To abide by KYC/AMLA Regulations: Some countries where you want to operate a casino in, require strict regulations of identity verification to make sure you’re not engaging in criminal activities, particularly money laundering. Casinos require verification of identity not to stop money launderers to do what they keep doing, but to have dome sort of lead to apprehend them when needed.

2. To sort of prevent and punish fraudulent activities: Since players are required to undergo KYC at any point, casinos are given a pretty great grasp of what they have in front of them. In situations where a hacker, a scammer, or someone with fraudulent activities do their thing, the identity they have stored for verification purposes may be used to ID these people and put them to justice.

Very correct with that, if you don't have multiple accounts and trying to take advantage of the casino's bonuses through those multiple accounts you will not have problems with the casino and no KYC verification for you and also if you have being playing and withdrawing within the limits trenchhold because some casino or even most casinos have a $5k dollar transactions limits for none KYC accounts and if you make transactions above that Amount you be subject to go through verification of account.

To my personal understanding regarding casino kyc strict implementation is because of their security and assurance of not being tricked by scammers who disguised themselves as regular players. This has been discussed so many times as concerns arises most of the time, cheaters has several ways to beat gambling in an unapropriate way and through kyc as the best tool that can suppress this kind of scheme.

some people does not know that that is one of the major problem they have towards some part of Casino gambling platform when you create different account with them you will not have what it takes to verify all other account so that is why casino platforms do understand that so many persons in illegal things in their platform so we need to be careful so that will be able to not fall a victim of gambling

KYC/AML policies is necessary for compliance as well as for third party providers to want to work with a casino but my theory is that having a no ''mandatory" identity verification policy could sit in the gray area of law.

But all depends on one's setup, I reckon. Things that help on top off my head:

1. Providing a fully crypto only casino since involving fiat will surely get you a stricter kyc/aml policies to adhere
2. Incorporating off shore and getting licenses similar to curacao ones gets less policing as oppose to other options with stricter monitoring. Ofc, provided that you block those strict countries.


I reckon it's easier to onboard users that way esp if you're relatively new in the game where folks can be skeptical for good reasons.

As a general rule, casinos should ask for KYC as soon as people create an account at the casino, before making any deposits. but this would cause many people not to get involved with casinos, this would cause casinos to lose many customers, but as license providers force casinos to do kyc but probably don't mention whether it should be at the time of account creation then casinos use their own criteria when asking for kyc, in this case it is more advantageous for casinos to ask for kyc when they detect any suspicious activity on the person's account, such as the person having many accounts, so it is enough for the casino to ask for kyc for all suspicious accounts that will be able to confirm which one is true

also in the case of a scammer stealing money and depositing it in the casino and not playing and withdrawing it, in that case the casino will ask for kyc and if the governments are tracking the scammers and reach the casino where he deposited the money, the government will ask for the details of the scammer. scammers and the casino will provide all data including all money that the scammer deposited at the casino. Now if the casino had not done KYC on the scammers, then the government could apprehend the casino under money laundering charges and would accuse the casino owner of committing the crime of money laundering.

This topic already received too much response and mostly from a mere opinion of players. We have a dedicated topic for this kind of question prepared by @SirJohnVonSlotty on his AMA thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482508.msg63538590#msg63538590. He is the most credible user here that I know that can answer on this specific question.

I share below some of his comment regarding what’s the use of KYC.



To summarize, it’s for legal purposes and at the same time for casino protection to abuse of their promotion.

Of course, anyone can cheat the KYC even the minors, but at least the casinos are doing their job on the verification process. If the gambler (minor) lied, that's up to him, it's his responsibility anyway and he'll have to face the consequences of his action.

So with that, it's also challenging to ensure that the gambler is the person who verified his KYC. I haven't verified in a casino yet but in other platform such us exchange or our local wallet, there's this selfie with my ID when I verified, like a live selfie, so I guess that woudl help if the casino will implement the same procedure.

Yeah, transparency and isn't it funny? Because cryptos like Bitcoin, especially Monero, pushes anonymity and they are like a perfect partner for the casino or gambling. I wouldn't wonder anymore on why many crypto users are complaining about this KYC thing but it's only interesting that crypto gambling is still there and they even became stronger.

Guess crypto users just sacrifice their identity only to still use a crypto while playing gambling. I still believe that fraudsters are not choosy but they will still do their thing no matter what. It may now only be easy for the casino to trace them once they notice the unusual activity going from them.

this sometimes comes with different idea saying which casino is involved because a legit casino is asking for KYC to protect their interest same as the players interest meaning they wanted to be transparent in accordance to the law.

But there is some casino that uses this KYC verification having a chance to delay the withdrawal or to truly prevent the players from withdrawing the amount.

but KYC is really a good thing if you are playing legally and not hiding anything from the site and the government.

That's why KYC are becoming more advanced and adding more layer of security because there will always be a way to cheat or to bypass the process in KYC, KYC is a very important aspect right now in most of websites that involves in money and especially in gambling sites, just like that if a player is cheating then with KYC then the websites could see who is the accountable and will be punished, that's why I dont know why people are reluctant to KYC if they will not do anything bad or anomaly because if they are not going to do anything bad then why would they dont want to comply in KYC.
 
For me KYC is not a problem to me, because it will serves as the security for both customer and the website and I will not do anything bad that why it will not a problem to me.

They want to get your data, do you know how much other companies would pay for a terabytes of data about people? They'll pay you thousands and it's not really a good idea to miss out on that opportunity especially when you're in a position where you can make data collection not a bad thing. There's also the reason of AML, with anonymity out of the question, it would be easier for law enforcement agencies that are catching these money launderers to catch them without a problem because if they see some inconsistency or anomaly in your account, they can just report you to the proper authorities and there's also the fact that most casino owners don't want the flak of being investigated by these agencies for harboring money launderers or becoming suspected of doing so, it's bad for the business and they risk getting big fines if not jail time.

This directly answers the question because most gambling sites prohibits opening multiple accounts so if you undergo KYC verifications it will be difficult to open numerous accounts since your personal details are already captured in one of your accounts.

This is similar to the topic I just replied to now, but first, KYC is mandatory, this is unless the casinos are operating off jurisdiction and such should not be trusted. But the law still gives them some grace, especially if the deposit is not big enough to warrant it or the withdrawal is not too big as well, and this varies depending on the country we are talking about and the activities of the said customers. But casinos are now using this as an excuse even if the customer is not guilty of any of the reasons why they should ask for the KYC, they are technically using the KYC as a powerful tool since the law supports them to ask for it. And this is subject to their discretion, especially if they suspect some activities. But in most cases, they will not suspect any foul play but will still be victimizing their customers, this is why every customer should be well prepared for all the documents possible they can ask of them.

Most customers are only victims, they might be good players who gain regularly or are gambling with a big amount to pose a threat to them if they win big. Instead for them to limit the risks that the customers could take to limit the potential gains automatically,  but for their greed, they will allow the high-net players to continue to wager it big thinking they will lose and they (casinos) will gain the whole money. But if the players now win, it becomes a problem for them. Now, for them not to pay the players, they will be asking for KYC verification, or additional verification if such gamblers had passed the KYC initially. Other casinos could be citing rules and looking for excuses through IPs and multiple accounts. All are to cheat or scam in most cases.

It is very important for the government to carry out KYC because it can prevent cases of identity misuse fraud, because in the current digital era there is a lot of fraud from various sites and one of them is casino sites, with the existence of KYC regulations the government is not worried that there will be cases of fraud because of the current casino regulations. it is very strict and if the user wants to be safe he must do KYC before depositing their money to the casino so that they can also withdraw money easily.
If it is not clear, we can hear the explanation below that I got from the information media.

Source = https://www.idnow.io/blog/importance-of-kyc-in-online-casinos/

This reason can be attributed to “other violations of ToS” and I don’t think that anyone is seriously concerned about it. In fact, casinos turn a blind eye to the age of gamblers; if the gambler does not violate the rules, then the casino will not deprive itself of income by checking the age of clients too strictly. I mean, of course, online casinos.
The risk of fines from regulators is offset by profits  ;D

In casino KYC, You only need to upload the Valid ID and the selfie holding ID for the basic KYC. But there’s some instances which casino requires video interview, financial report, address verification and other requirements depending on the intensity of the case on the account.

This enhance verifications is only for those whale/high wager players that has a huge profit involved. Normal player like us probably will only need up to selfie verification because that’s what the casino needs to verify an identity.

It has destroyed our privacy because of that KYC, but do we have a choice? None, most casinos top, actually the top casinos including the popular here in the forum are alre regulated, hence KYC is just a basic requirement that everyone has to comply sooner or later. My personal experience in gambling is fine because I don't submit an ID or went through a KYC process like you mention, but I still enjoy gambling and that's the beauty of crypto casino.

I think if we compare crypto and fiat casino, in fiat casino, you need to pass the KYC first before you are allowed to gamble, but on crypto casino, making an account is instant, and you can just pass the KYC later when you are already oblige. 

The KYC is proof that you are playing in the right location and you do not have an alt account because all your data are on their database, your IP the computer you're using, and your exact location so they need to know if your information is the same in their database

Casinos have sophisticated tools to track your information, your behavior, and everything that classifies you, which is why we've seen people getting flagged because two or more people are sharing the same location, IP, and machine that constitute multi-accounting.
KYC is a means to clear your name and to make sure that players adhere to what's on their TOS, unfortunately some dubious casinos are using to scam their players.

In rare cases some casinos can outrightly take advantage of the kyc to intimidate or want to seek a loophole through which they could deny a customer his win. Could probably be that such customer has won a big amount of money and have previously done and pass KYC but the casino still request again for a higher level of kyc which could be somehow rigorous for the gambler to pass through successfully and in any mistake they just use it to deny you pay sighting abuse of policy.

Quite okay in the angle of right location but in the aspect of IP address been used to determine alt account under a single user which then lead to kyc verification demands, I feel casinos are not always correct in that area. Why, because a friend could decide to use his friend phone to login into his own account under same casino company which will for sure display same IP address in the two different accounts held by these two different individuals, at the end of the casino site it only appears to be two different accounts under one ownership, whereas it isn't exactly as it appears on their end. So I think this is just one defect in casinos' use of IP address to determine multiple accounts under a single user.

This is natural, if you have been flagged for scam or cheat as the case maybe be then you have to be suspected and suspecting you is to make you undergo requirements that will set you free out of such allegation. So in this case if the casino you are playing under suspects your account to be a cheating account, they will stop you from operating until they have reverified it. So when a KYC is activated, it is not an aberration and if the person is free from it, the account will be set free.

Simple answer: because they have the right to do it as long as they are licensed/regulated and it is clearly written in their terms.
Not only because of users are suspected as cheater but it can be because of some other reasons.
Once they have written terms, they can ask users to undergo KYC anytime they wish but most of the time, there must be a reason from the casino.
Not a new case here absolutely as its been discussed since so long time ago when casinos started to be licensed/regulated.

Asking for KYC is a win-win situation for the regulators and also the casino itself, gamblers won't be able to cheat the casino by using two different accounts and also the regulators want to make sure that money laundering isn't happening on any online casinos.

My advice to any beginner is to always look forward to passing KYC verification first before you start using the casino, make sure it's verified so that when you do get lucky you will be unstoppable when you click the withdrawal button.

Also, this doesn't stop some bad casinos from cheating you, make sure you pick the best ones and avoid most new online casinos.

Lets be honest about Know Your Customer in gambling. There's no need for red tape; its the smart move for everyone.  Think about people who try to hide money or cheat the system. KYC stops all of that. Okay, I get it. No one likes extra work. But think of this as your own protection seal. Everyone wins in a clean and fair game, right? People who dont like it should know that this isnt a power grab. Everyone should have the same chances, and that includes you. This thing with online gambling is really taking off, so we need to be careful. Its not just about the rules; its also about making the gambling business last so that people can bet without fear.

Well, this is what we think can happen if things are Taken from the Point of view closest to normality, it is better that people Treat themselves as they are , because if they need and have money to treat themselves it is Better that Do it through a professional, it is the best, of Course I am very keen on doing things in the most Correct way possible, and if it is treated like this with Specialized clinics ,  it should be done, if a person has that problem they have to take Take advantage if they have money to treat yourself , it's for your own health, and it's something that will Always be for the Better.

Things have changed a lot during the previous years, now at most casinos if you want to make a withdrawal then you need to pass KYC, so this procedure is no longer exclusive of those which are suspected of cheating or those that obtained a big win and the casino needs to verify who they are.

Now there are some casinos still promoting themselves as not requiring KYC no matter what, but they are either lying or it is just a matter of time until they are required to do this like any other casino.

KYC verification and for what its fact decision is, no matter what the issues may be, KYC verification will be weighed before considered trashy until the user get to abandon the exchange and use a better one.

It might appear exasperating to have to undergo more procedures but in reality it acts as a seal of safeguard for us, ourselves. When all play in an environment that is clean and fair, we can all feel safe and comfortable. Everyone has an equal opportunity; that should be our aim. The issue of online gambling is certainly growing, so we have to be more watchful. It is not only about compliance with regulations but also about laying a strong foundation for the business of gambling to last long term. In such a way people will be able to bet without fear, and take pleasure from positive experiences while enjoying the gamble.

Despite the inconvenience that the KYC process might pose, it should be considered an important step. To what end? To uphold the credibility of the gambling sector as well as ensuring players' safety. This is part and parcel of a collaborative endeavour to establish a safe, equitable and sustainable gambling climate, replete for all who partake in it.

          -      You are right there, and I can only add that there are also other gambling casino users in this field of crypto who also cannot deny that they also use fraud in truth. And there are also times that the casino management caught it.

Also, if suddenly kyc is requested, it is for verification that this is a legitimate person who will withdraw money from their casino because of the winnings, and I don't see anything wrong with this matter unless the casino is actually illegal.

A gambler who is either suspected of cheating or having suspicious activities that might show he isn't behaving normally might be asked to complete KYC verification. A lot of platforms might give a lot of opportunities to their customers, but most wouldn't do that and they will ask for KYC as soon as they find something unusual.

I will give you an example of what an unusual or suspicious activity might be. So a gambler signs up on a casino platform, makes a small deposit, and starts gambling. He keeps making small deposits and also withdraws small amounts sometimes, and then all of a sudden, they make a large deposit, make a very large bet on a sports event, and then manage to win that bet. Now, even though it can be a coincidence that they wanted to take a high risk on a random game, it isn't normal because they have never made a large deposit before, and when they made a large deposit after so much time, made a single bet with all the money, and won the bet. That is when the casino becomes suspicious about them and might ask for KYC verification.

I think casino doesn't do kyc because government ask them but because they want to follow the norms existing casinos are doing to mitigate anything that will cause them fine later, their is National Lottery Regulatory Commission NLRC that fine casino and gambling platforms that doesn't follow their rules but on the other, kyc is useful if the casino want to fish out people with multiple accounts, most of the time casino used this to know people that abused privileges in their platform.

KYC is also a multi million business, there is nothing as expensive as data, Google can pay any amount to get hands any information and how are even sure this companies don't sell kyc to any company that desired for them most particularly how the gambling industry is growing, there may be data protecting laws but who knows if they are even following them.

the answer is simple, currently many governments in several countries have legalized gambling or institutions that supervise gambling businesses are urging online gambling business owners such as casinos or online sportsbooks to implement a KYC system, on the one hand this is good so that players are protected and they have a place to complain but on the other hand On the one hand, this violates privacy rights, I personally don't play on many gambling sites, I only play at places that I'm sure are legit even if they require KYC.

Yes, most cheaters are the set of gamblers that do have issues with KYC verification as they feel it's going to be the end of the road for them with that gambling platform because of their cheat. On the contrary too, there are another set of persons that don't just get along with anything KYC and these are persona that priotize their privacy and they just intentionally try not to make use of their own actual particulars to pass the kyc at first when it was done, now a new request in the future for further verification clarification as a result of any act of suspicion on the side of the casino, it then places these person's in a hard corner which could lead to their loss of the account.

This is to match the information that you are going to provide with what is registered on their anti-cheat system, you cannot provide a piece of information in your KYC where the information in their anti-cheat is different, the casinos' anti-cheat system is very detailed they want to make sure that you are not multi-accounting, you are not on a location where the casinos' are restricting and you are of age and you can play within your means.

Gamblers should be aware of KYC in compliance with what the casinos' are asking you, It is hard to cheat a casino they spend huge amounts of money just to track cheaters and to make the platform in compliance and clean

New casinos are probably the ones that will suffer the most with those policies, as gamblers are not going to want to share those details with many casinos, and when given the choice of sharing that information with a casino in which they have gambled for years and one they just wanted to try, then it is clear they will pick the former rather than the latter.

Which will make really difficult for new casinos to gain new customers, and in return this will make it almost impossible for them to ever compete against casinos which have been around for a long period of time already.

I'm just wondering why many of us don't seem to be in favor of complying with KYC? I mean, I understand that some of us wants to remain anonymous but That would be better to avoid cheating incidents. besides, that is for the verification process and for sure it is legit even if we pass legal documents because that is one of the rules of a casino as well as the government, so why are there so many people who don't want it? I read before that submitting the document for KYC is a hassle for them, but isn't that better, especially if you win a lot in a gambling session, you won't have any trouble withdrawing the money you won because the account you used is already verified.

Casinos require a KYC due to different circumstances, could be the user getting into the other hand or for verification, possibly that theres a suspicious activity happening in a particular account such as deposits, withdrawals and IP address changes every time, there is a lot more reasons. It's their safety measures that no one will break their rules, the games abusing the reward they give and to be fair to other players. People lazy to read the terms and conditions once they see the rewards given by the casino they immediately make a deposit and if they win they keep complaining because they want to withdraw those wins without meeting the requirements.

Even if you're not abusing promos, having more than one account on online casino might seem no problem but it's usually against the rules or TOS. Even if you're not trying to cheat or get extra bonuses, it can still get you banned because casinos want to prevent things like fraud and money laundering. They're strict about this to keep things okay and safe for everyone.

It is not really that complicated, one of the main reasons people joined this market at the early stages was to gain some level of anonymity that is now impossible to achieve with fiat.

And early on this was also a major selling point for cryptocurrency casinos, as you could gamble as much as you wanted without the need to verify your identity, but as this market became more popular and scammers began to use casinos as improvised mixers, casinos were left with no other choice but to implement those policies, while at the same time they were being pushed by governments to adopt them as well.

Because KYC means Know Your Customer, it's already on the name of the policy and there's no other way to verify yourself besides complying with the KYC policy is a good thing right? At least in my opinion given how you can easily be turned into a money launderer in the case that you've won something really big, they can just say that you haven't complied and they'll just freeze your account, that's how most of the accusations in casinos are when it comes to people that are getting locked out, at the least you won't have any problem when you complied and then you've won something and then at the end of the day, the casinos tries to lock you out, you would be able to get some kind of leverage or you can counter their argument easily. The gist of why the KYC policy is in place is to protect the company's own hide, they didn't made it because of you, they want to make sure that they can never be a den of money launderers because that would constitute that they're an accomplice and they'll be also indicted, if it's not for you to comply with that one then it's best that you find another that's more anonymous.