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January 21, 2024, 11:33:11 PM
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The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.
No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.


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January 21, 2024, 11:54:47 PM
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No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.
The dual nature of activities like gambling and drinking can indeed lead to addiction. Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.

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January 21, 2024, 11:58:28 PM
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The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.
No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.


Exactly, if you do these both responsibly you can literally avoid addictions. Even in advertisement of alcohol drinks there would be always a tip of "drink responsibly" because it depends on the person who drink if he would drink excessively. Just think of the rehab center would be pricey like here in my country because they would prescribe you pills for sure as the addiction already affected your health. But this kind of topic doesn't really talk about here since the most people affected by addiction by gambling is the rich one, where you can hear cases of them selling their houses and cars.

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Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.


Well, for some but for sure there's still cases of people that reach that far as they don't know how to handle their addiction which can causes violence to their surroundings. But yeah, some just want support from their family to overcome their problem of addiction


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January 22, 2024, 02:01:58 AM
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The dual nature of activities like gambling and drinking can indeed lead to addiction. Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

The most interesting thing, in my opinion, is that the addiction is different in different types of games. If we take poker and, for example, sports betting from a traditional bookmaker, then the “disease” is different. In poker, it is, in principle, possible to make a profit over the long term. But for this you need to be a very high-class player. In poker, if you win, then, in principle, no one will take your profit away from you. But in sports betting, if you win against a bookmaker in the long term, it is basically impossible to make a profit. Because you are dependent on the bookmaker, and the bookmaker does not benefit from you constantly winning. He will block your account, reduce odds, and reduce maximums. Many gamblers do not understand this and hope for long-term winnings. It seems to me that sometimes it’s enough to explain this to them and the treatment will go faster.

 
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January 22, 2024, 08:13:23 PM
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I feel like the best way to treat patients with addictions is to separate them from it completely, not giving them even the slightest chances to return.

For example, when you have someone with eating disorder, who's overweight and sits at home all day eating and watching TV, you have to move them to a location where food is scarce, for example to a warm climate, preferable the seaside, maybe take them on a boat trip. The warm climate will make them burn more calories, there's no TV, no way to buy premade food.
It's the same with gambling addicts. They have to be moved to a place with no casinos and no Internet access. Then they have to be given something to do, like heavy workout routines, walks to the mountains, swimming, so when they go to bed they drop like a rock and sleep until morning.

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OP I’m sorry to ask are there people who are in the hospital just for too much of gambling??  I am really worrying how they talk about betting a lot that mean all they think all the time is how to play or bet game to win,what a world!!
Of course, people end up in rehab centers not only because they gamble a lot, but because of financial losses. But financial losses that cause great harm to the patient’s life arise, among other things, due to an incorrect understanding of the game’s mechanics. It seems to a person that he and the bookmaker are playing on equal terms. The person does not understand that the bookmaker has an advantage.

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A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?
Of course, before trying to treat a person, you need to know his worldview well. Often, if not always, the roots of many problems are rooted in this worldview. A person too easily accepts ideas that can destroy his life.

 
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January 23, 2024, 09:09:54 PM
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I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever a person is Treated with this, it is because basically things are going to be focused on a different type of treatment, that is, when they are in this type of Addiction, the first step is not to slander them, It can take away the anxiety they have, but how do they Get rid of it? with sleep treatments, that is, they put them to sleep for many hours until the person achieves total peace, and then if they are talked to so that they can enter their hard Treatment phase , which is basically telling them how they Should Share in a casino , how you Should bet, how you should do so that things do not get out of control , what days you should play, how many hours you should play, or how much money you should spend per day so that it does not affect your daily life, this is often done or done. In that way, of course I assume that this is under a clinic, a psychologist, and many people there to take care of them, because it is like something that they have to manage.

That is why this is so delicate, it is always about doing something about the gambling addiction, which is recommended if the person has all their senses at full capacity, because at any moment they will go off track and start doing things like going to the bathroom. casino, spend money, and you will spend much more, it is logical that you are in an addiction, when people speak to an addict sometimes the words go in one ear and come out the other, it is as if they were not spoken to, then This helps a lot when the so-called "sleep cures" are done , there is nothing like that, the person is as if on another level, the person is calmer, the person rests his mind sometimes that is just what is missing, rest the goal so that everything falls into place, or as I have said in other Messages , try to do sports and get very tired so that the mind feels that it must rest, it is the most logical thing and the most we should focus on doing, otherwise It will be very Difficult to control our addiction.


Putting the addicted person to sleep in the case of behavioral addiction, may be too much for a client that undergoes behavioral therapy. His normal sleeping time would be enough, then putting them to sleep. Aggressive patients are treated in this manner, to let their brain cool off. A player who still watches over his games, despite being an addict, can listen or follow the instruction of the therapist without no dispute. Those who get aggressive in the process, and go against the instruction of the therapist, because it doesn't align with theirs, can be sedated to sleep for a long time. When they're awake can be talked to gradually. The essence of doing this is that, before his strength or energy get restored, he may have been counselled by the therapist. Hence, he'll hardly get sad in the process, and will earn new friendship with the therapist.

Other than that, they'll be no reliable option to calming the agitated addict. The conversation with people, can be arranged within the clinic. Allowing the addict during his free time to share information with workers in the clinic, which can make him happy. Showing him different means of being happy, helps the player to realize gambling is not the only place to get fun. Gambling treatment is different from that of other addictions, but some measure can be similar due to the similar behavior of these set of people. That means addicted people, regardless of the source of their addiction may act in similar way and cannot be treated using same therapy method. Psychotherapy may work for all of them, addicts, but behavioral therapy is best for a gambling addict.

Well I say something, if we do something like that Therapy I consider it to be somewhat faster, what I consider for this type of things is the sleep cure to prevent more ideas from being taken and that could lead the addict to much Worse Conditions. things to do, otherwise, well yes, I know that what you say can also be useful, just so that I can stop the addiction is fine for me, the rest is because nothing else can be done, an addicted person must Quickly Start doing things to calm everything that has to do with his behavior, otherwise, it is difficult to do it , sometimes this type of treatment is usually very effective and good so that it can generate any type of help , so when I I see that it is Effective, because I say that not only for those who are threatening patients with other attitudes, they are people who need to be able to have help quickly, I mean that a person receives treatment that quickly and not that it takes too long so that later it will be very difficult to make any type of more Radical solution.

I see that if the addiction has a quick cure, then it has to be done, it has to be taken Quickly to be able to execute its action, otherwise things can be very difficult for everyone, in this aspect things can look very Difficult  , Although if not carried out with adequate care ,Treatments that do not have to do with sleep cures are effective, but it may be that the person is reluctant and does not heal at once, or at least does not stop at once but With sleep cures, the person will be calmer, more serene and with more attitude to think about any other solution, these types of Things are what you See and that can be solved, a Psychologist, a person who can give a quick Solution is what you need, is needed, otherwise things can be very different if they are not treated quickly Enough.

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January 23, 2024, 11:49:18 PM
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Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.
Indeed. When we understand the potential negative impacts of addiction, we will try to prevent ourselves from the addiction. Stick with some ways to avoid it will be very reasonable to do. For example, we won't allocate too much money for gambling. We must commit with the money allocated to the gambling. If we don't discipline with the money used for gambling, it will lead to gambling excessively.

Sure. Addiction is a complicated matter, it requires a help from doctors if it is already a severe addiction. We can't expect to solve the addiction ourselves.

It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.
It sometimes depends on the nature of the individual. If the individual is an emotional person, it is very possible to do harmful things to the loves ones. Although they are not addicted, it is still possible to do it. But for the kind people, they may still have a control for themselves. Although they are addicted to something, they prefer to hurt themselves than they hurt other people.


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January 24, 2024, 02:23:59 AM
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I've been thinking a lot about a treatment called "game deprivation." That is, this is a type of treatment in which the therapeutic effect is achieved by prohibiting the patient from playing games. Of course, this method has many positive aspects and clearly has a good therapeutic effect. But I would say not at all. First of all, he can help those who have already made the decision within themselves to part with games, but they need to take the next step, which they cannot take.
       But there is another category of patients. Those who, deep down, are not sure that they should quit because they like the game. Although intellectually they understand that the game in their case is destructive.

 
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January 24, 2024, 12:27:42 PM
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In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.
Well, let me start with the alcohol part, drinking alcohol and not getting addicted to it is not common unless you don't know the power of addiction to alcohol. Or perhaps you are mistaking it to getting drunk all the time, addiction is more than that. Many people who are drinking alcohol cannot do a day without drinking it many times, especially those who have it at home or in their offices. They might never get drunk, but the urge to take it regularly or every day will always be there. It is most people who are drinking alcohol who are addicted to it, which is what I wanted to refute here, only a few among them will not be addicted to it even as alcohol addiction is more powerful than you think.

Also, what aggravates addiction is the free time we have in most cases, to some, it might be loneliness and for others, they will be having fun with their favourite hobbies when it happens, so the same goes for gambling addiction as well when the spare time is more and you engage more in it, you would be addicted this way. This is why it is good to be well informed initially about this so that you can plan and guard against it before infesting you. But if one is being affected already, I think that it will be so nice to get help, it might be from friends and family, but if the case is higher, it could be external help. And of course, professionals in this category would know the right things to do.

However, if it has gotten to violence at home, then it is something else because it is the situation of passing the aggression due to your losses despite you being the one who went there to gamble with the money yourself. That is ill and selfish of anybody to do and it calls for serious help.

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January 24, 2024, 08:44:57 PM
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I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.
This is closely related to the environment they live in, if no one cares about him in the environment then it will be very difficult to recover.
Addiction due to gambling may be the same when compared to a person's addiction to gaming, both addictions that include interaction, and they are often alone and only play with their gadgets.

These are behavioral addictions that need to be treated morally, not just chemically because they will be cured with support from the environment and provide an understanding that what they are doing is not right.

This includes almost all types of addiction, not just gambling or online gaming addiction. This includes almost all types of addiction, not just gambling or online gaming addiction. The addict's real-life environment plays an important role in the addiction treatment journey, as it can be a source of support and motivation, and it can also help provide protection from factors that may lead to relapse.

The most important thing that those close to the patient can do is to help the addict adhere to the treatment program and not fall victim to successive relapses that may worsen his condition.

 
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January 24, 2024, 08:57:01 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.

I can't just imagine on this excerpt for gambling addicts that it has gone to the extent of a mental level, we should not make it appear that there should be all necessity to make reservations as remedy on every addicted gambler, who will take their responsibility for every of the actions in which they are receiving their consequences, anything that has to do with rehabilitation then has to be on those whose conditions are worse beyond personal control and I don't think the government or the NGOs could be willing to be responsible for any of these.

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The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game.
And you think we ain't got specialist on that area where addicts are being converted already?.. oh please!! Haven't you heard of the term hypnotherapist before? A  Person that organises therapy?..
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It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
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Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
I'll simply be very versatile... I'mma be putting up the realities to you and I may be even ask you to continue gambling, over my watch for about 2 weeks consistently... that's if you're being doubtful. If at the end of the time interval -- with my analysis, the stakes doesn't surpass the gains, I'll simply tell you to continue with your habits.

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When a gambler is admitted to rehabilitation, he is admitted to rehabilitation only when all the negative effects are observed in him and he is no longer able to protect himself from gambling. As a psychological I can't do any kind of consultant on gambling because a gambler or an alcoholic, whatever you call it, is only out of control when the brain is impaired and disordered. Methodology and therapy along with family support can have a hugely positive impact on them.

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Definitely gamblers can argue to the end so it doesn't sound new seeing an addict arguing, in this situation the doctor like you said or the person in charge of this situation need to be smart and outstanding to answer every question, the person will always want to argue that gambling is not bad so as an addict but if I may ask what have you ever achieve from gambling or rather show me a valuable property you've bought with your gambling skills.
Secondly deprive the person from gambling always, they're many means we can use to  distract such person, I believe if the person can stay without gambling for one week then you're actually progressing. I don't necessary believe in changing an addict but rather they should learn and change by  them self, this method looks like you're forcing the person to change and that's not right. People who are willing to change as an addict but they can't change is really bad, why not visit a therapist someone you can talk to and they'll always have a solution.

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May 04, 2024, 10:49:26 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
any person that is addicted in gambling does not need a clinic to treat itself because addition of numbering is based on what you need or what you want even a greatness can also contribute for addition of gambling so what the person need is advice is not a medical treatment because that does not have to do with a Blog or depression

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Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I have said this before and am still going to say it here: there is no way to make a gambling addict change unless he or she is self-determined to change. That is when you can apply some little help to the person, which can help him or her fully change their addicted gambling lifestyle and become a better person. 

It is when an addicted gambler has accepted that they are addicted and they want to change and become better. That's when your work will be simple, but if it's an addicted gambler who has sold their mind to addiction and they are not even seeing themselves as people who are addicted, then there is no help that can work for them unless you will have to reformat their brain. 

Sometimes ago, I always talk about one of my college friends who was an addicted gambler, and there was nothing his parents did not do to help the boy, but every attempt to help him was futile. 

You can restrict an addicted gambler for months, but the moment you give him freedom, he goes straight away to gamble. 


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It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.
It sometimes depends on the nature of the individual. If the individual is an emotional person, it is very possible to do harmful things to the loves ones. Although they are not addicted, it is still possible to do it. But for the kind people, they may still have a control for themselves. Although they are addicted to something, they prefer to hurt themselves than they hurt other people.


Most people can be so rude and aggressive to an extend when angry like speaking rudely or wanting to do something crazy, an addict might not mean to hurt their family members when they lose but sometimes the tone of their voice can show such person is angry, anger can be transferred aggressively unknowingly mostly when the person is emotional and can’t share their pains but rather they decide to speak rudely thinking they’ll feel fine. In this case I will consider the gambler as an addict even if they’re not addicted it’s best we describe people like this cause when developing habit like this one day such gambler can’t do without gambling win

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You do not need all these extremes just deploy the ancient art of mathematics.   Do your homework, play the game after considering all possibilities in hard ink.   Stop spoiling yourself by betting blindly, if that is your entertainment then of course but if you are somehow feeling cursed and unable to control yourself do the maths on your problem.   Break down each game, compare and contrast and then decide; deploy more of your brain not less.

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Definitely gamblers can argue to the end so it doesn't sound new seeing an addict arguing, in this situation the doctor like you said or the person in charge of this situation need to be smart and outstanding to answer every question, the person will always want to argue that gambling is not bad so as an addict but if I may ask what have you ever achieve from gambling or rather show me a valuable property you've bought with your gambling skills.
Secondly deprive the person from gambling always, they're many means we can use to  distract such person, I believe if the person can stay without gambling for one week then you're actually progressing. I don't necessary believe in changing an addict but rather they should learn and change by  them self, this method looks like you're forcing the person to change and that's not right. People who are willing to change as an addict but they can't change is really bad, why not visit a therapist someone you can talk to and they'll always have a solution.

Forcing them to change their lifestyle may not really be a good route to alter their habits. But you can ask them what they really want in life, their possible motivations to change for the betterment of themselves.
You need to convince them that changing the course of their life will lead them to a productive life and maybe a better future for them. Also, you need to learn the reasons behind why they are getting addicted or the reasons why they are into gambling. Knowing the root cause can give you insights on how to address their dilemma of getting addicted.

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