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Title: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Onyeeze on May 16, 2024, 12:22:19 PM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

We need to Understood that we need to work together more to build sustaineble society.
What's more countries like africa/latin America or eastern europe it makes harder for many people life there becouse a lot people only goal will be to get out If poverty and when they are lucky or work up themselfes they will be greedy and always insecure it's not becouse they are bad persons it's mostly becouse from the early age they saw that everybody Are they own goverment don't care and society is hard.....so it will be in their Memory and when they get rich they make sure they always want to be sure they have surplus not less and good buffer zone of wealth to make sure they never need to starve again they sceptical to contribute to society because they know they need to be careful with their money once it's gone nobody not gona help them and goverment not about social AID. So that's why the wages are low becouse the fear of company owners If they give out too much they might be poor themselfes
That's all wrong becouse it will make people selfish moves only that's not gona improve the society as whole the balanced perfect way should be that goverment will be strong on background and everybody want to innovate grow and improve in everything not just chasing money and thinking about to have enough so atleast they never fall again back to poverty.
But people need to Understood that we need work together and it's about more sharing then just collecting wealth and stay scared that what creates corruption stress crime and society where nobody can't be sure what happens tommorow and enough money never enough becouse most of people chasing money too and you always need to be catious your own goverment or business partners might want to cheat you or take from you ... don't make mistake they might be not bad people just that from the early Age they experinced starving and poverty and no goverment support ...so it's in their Memory now that they must be rich and not give out anything....well goverment support don't mean only money the goverments can support many ways like give free access to education and learning courses.
If those countries the africa latin america or eastern Europe countries the balcans like albania or former soviet union countries want to be strong as society and go forward in life then they should stop this old way of thinking " screw everything" " be strong" " me me i need more more" and so.
The good balance of society is goverment support and help with innovation and with funds and workers earn wages that they can also enjoy the life Also untfortunately USA and Canada start to remaind to people that latin america, africa and old soviet countries mindset the goverments falling down and not improve.
The good life balance and respect in society towards everybody are in switzerland.
And If people don't change that old way of thinking nothing gets better that's why people with money they make money in those countries and leave becouse they don't want to live in society where everybody only chasing the money and try to take it from others all the ways as possible in other words it's not normal and not healthy just to live in survival mode everyday.
That's why a lot people Going to Dubai so they feel there more like one it's a human nature to be united and working together not just thinking everyday how to survive If you leave money on the side yes people in Dubai are wealthy but also a lot great people with good nature and good hearts you might be good heart person with innovative and good mindset but If you are surrounded with people who try to make only money to have more than others then it's a fake society.
The humans are not meant to be alone but working in unity and getting rewarded by their merits to society.
Covid 19 was good example how bad it will be in isolation without others we are social by our nature as humans.
So off course everybody work for themselfes you don't need to share all but the rule is Simple you should give if you want to receive
And we never end conflicts and wars by thinking same ways our souls not die and after we nuke ourselfes again and again we recarniate again all over on the planet earth to learn again and If we don't learn we born all over again until we learn that how to live in respectful ways.
Just because bad history and wrong actions of our parents and previous political people we don't need to define ourselfes but need to change outselfes.
Look Even the russian oligarcsh like berezwsky abramovich....why they left their countries? They wamted to live in London UK in Western countries, why? Becouse they have money and wealth they got sick and tired of focus on everyday to wealth and money and dealing with envy of others who not interested about them as people or persons but mostly about their money.
Rich and wealthy are Also sick of this money money...for wealthy and rich the wealth is just something elementary to feel good and enjoy the life that's why they seeks the societies where nobody dont even talk about money the money is just there and it's not about status symbol or show off it's just to make feel good and live your life as normal human ...that's why we see endless conflicts social chaos corruption
wars in latin america africa and some eastern europe balcan countries becouse people live by survival mode it will kill slowly their health also that way.

I have to say i Went italy and france....i was amazed how relax and slow everything was there people knew how to enjoy life and money is not reason to rush.

I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Hazink on May 16, 2024, 12:27:43 PM
If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Nheer on May 16, 2024, 12:47:10 PM
Quality beats quantity anytime… Some people think that the length of a post is what gives it quality but the most important thing is to convey your message in a way that people would understand, doesn’t necessarily have to be very long. Most people on the forum don’t like the idea of too long post and they barely have enough time to spend reading one post.

Most long post are left unread because it seem like a waste of time especially when it seems boring from the start, talking too much will deviate you from the target point making a post lose it’s value so it’s better to hit the nail on the head rather than running around the bush. Also the construction of a post, the spacing and grammatical structure also helps to attract readers making tempting to read but length is not major factor that attracts readers.



Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: stompix on May 16, 2024, 12:49:42 PM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

You do realize you're making the same mistake right?
Writing a phone paragraph repeating the same idea 3 times when you could have made it in only one line sentence?

The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it.

Definitely, all books should have just one line, "and they lived happily after" because that's what matters, the outcome, right?
Or even better why use words, a meme should do!

POlo/waldorf/fullbear and his alts might be a moron and his text garbage but generalizing like this is bad.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Lucius on May 16, 2024, 12:56:43 PM
@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on May 16, 2024, 01:00:38 PM
Yeah and youre doing it too. Lmao long post is fine as long as it has a good content and has interesting topic. A wall of text is the one Im not reading unless it is systematically arrange by the poster. Its quite long to read and boring to scan.

Its better to have shorter version and concise sentences.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Porfirii on May 16, 2024, 01:06:09 PM
@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it :(

I feel that I miss relevant information because, after many disappointments of the style, I skip such large posts just in case, unless it is written by a well-known user. It's not fair because even newbies can have interesting things to say, but that's the cost for efficiency: we cannot read everything.



Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: SatoPrincess on May 16, 2024, 01:15:00 PM
A lengthy post does not equal quality and will not increase your chances of getting merits. In fact, when readers see a wall of text they instantly skip the post. The only engagement you are likely to get on your post is users advising you to make your post shorter and straight to the point.  I’m not saying this is the same for all lengthy posts, you can make a lengthy post pleasant to read by using paragraphs and being on topic.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Amphenomenon on May 16, 2024, 01:16:44 PM
However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.
This is from the fact that most lack the knowledge and fail to see this but one to be like these top forum members making long posts notably JJG while forgetting knowledge is gotten from learning.

Another notably thing aside from sometimes bad grammatical structure are the wall of text some of them continue to write even after much correction, they still stick with being ignorant of it and then sometimes speak of making quality posts that are not being merited whereas these their posts are not encouraging read.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: moneystery on May 16, 2024, 01:32:32 PM
a quality post is a post that conveys its points effectively, not a long post that just goes around in circles and it's not clear what point is being conveyed. because many newbies think that they need to make quality posts, so they make long posts with the intention that it is a quality post, even though it is just a waste of time because the points they convey are too long-winded to the point that people are lazy to read it.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Razmirraz on May 16, 2024, 01:33:42 PM
The quality of a post is not judged by how long you write it, sometimes the contents of long-winded posts without any selling value will look mediocre even though they are written at length. The post that you quote on the topic will make the eyes of the people who read it feel tired due to not creating several paragraphs that make the appearance more appealing to the eye. Whenever and wherever, quality will be more valuable than quantity. Posts that are written only a few lines but have informational and educational values for anyone who reads them will be of higher quality than posts written like sites that contain football news which are written from the first minute until the match is over.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Davidvictorson on May 16, 2024, 01:35:30 PM
I have noticed that that user usually your likes a long wall of text. I do not think that it is a problem as there are people who may have the time to read and make their comments on it while they are others who do not like to read a long wall of text so they ignore it.. Depending on the individual, one may choose to reply or one may choose to ignore it.   As long as the op is not something against the forum rules I don't have any problem with it.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Fiatless on May 16, 2024, 01:38:17 PM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.
The problem is not the post's length but its content and organisation. Some posts should be long because they contain some information that needs to be explained. Others need to be brief because there is no need to elaborate on something that should be simply explained. Another very important factor in writing is how you organise your facts in sentences and paragraphs. This will enable readers to easily read and comprehend the writing. Generally, the length of the post doesn't determine the quality. A long or short thread could be a quality post, it all depends on the organisation and relevance.  

The belief that long post usually give more merits is false. I have seen post with few sentences attracting many merit because they information is relevant at that time. Meanwhile there are some posts with many paragraphs that don't even get one merit. Some people might not be writing many lines for merits but they thought that how the post should be.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Felicity_Tide on May 16, 2024, 01:59:10 PM
I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.

Of course, you haven't done anything wrong by pointing this out. This is basically an issue that really needs to be address. When we come across some certain post, they are three things that determines if we are going to read it or not. One is the topic title, two is the length, and the third is the structure.

In my few years of writing, topic title and structure are what captivate readers. When a topic lacks meaning or is not well structured just like the one you quoted above, then won't attract much interest even when it's short.

I will add further. An important key to writing a good post is simply readability and understanding . If a post can not be read and processed by anyone, then there is no value in it. Which is why, I try to read my own write up, process it and understand before sharing it to the general public. Like you said, the length of a post does not matter, but the ability for readers to grab the key information makes it a quality post.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Skfox on May 16, 2024, 02:32:08 PM
We are all here to learn, taking corrections should also be part of learning. When you are being corrected and then you take correction, you will see yourself growing even without you knowing. Sometimes you may not see the impact of the correction at that time but you will later realize it the best to be taken.

In my opinion, lengthy post sometimes discourages many to read even when you may love reading, your post may be a quality one but due to the length many will see it stressing to read to the end.
This is a correction which should be taken and then try to readjust, it is also important to we newbies too to learn from this correction.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: GiftedMAN on May 16, 2024, 04:25:51 PM
The only engagement you are likely to get on your post is users advising you to make your post shorter and straight to the point.  I’m not saying this is the same for all lengthy posts, you can make a lengthy post pleasant to read by using paragraphs and being on topic.

This is exactly what I advised the user with the lengthy post that Onyeeze is talking about before seeing the post of Onyeeze about the user, it took me time to understand what the op was saying not until I was able to read everything he wrote before I understood the information he was trying to pass across. Of course there are so many lengthy posts I have come across here in the forum but the way the post was arranged made it very easy to read and just like what you have said, the columns and paragraphs was used where necessary making the write-ups to be easily readable and comprehensive. Not everyone is a good English speaker but I believe being active here has made a lot of people to improve in writing I believe people are still learning also.





Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Cookdata on May 16, 2024, 04:55:00 PM
I don't have problem with a long post but when your post lact composure and ingredients, then it becomes boring to read, it discourage people from trying to know more what you have in your content but if you are good writer, people will want to know the dip content of the message you are trying to pass.

This Fullbear guy, I don't know his motivation for long thread but no offense, I don't bother to engage in some of his thread, they are too wordy and it always lack punctuations where necessary and he never makes paragraph a priority, this thing discourage a lot of people and that's why you see that most often, the thread don't get passed 3 page, instead of people to even quote his original OP, they prefer to engage other comments after the OP original posts.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: tranthidung on May 16, 2024, 05:03:18 PM
It is very basic in writing. Keep it short and succinct enough to express your idea. Enough means don't write something too short that fails to convey your ideas but not too long to make your post becomes messy.

  • Bitcointalk posting etiquette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184741.0)
  • Guide of theymos on writing in the welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0). I quote his guide on it.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Findingnemo on May 16, 2024, 05:07:03 PM
How long the post could be depends on various factors and in certain cases wall of text is needed for a better and clearer explanation of what we try to convey to the users such as guides and Tutorials about something indeed long and will take a few minutes to read the process and understand.

But how to do it is something that they need to know and there are some guides like [GUIDE] A good post/reply and formatting [UPDATED] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224196.0) can help user to post the long posts in better format.

When I see something that's a completely big wall of text then I don't bother read at all.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: knowngunman on May 16, 2024, 05:21:31 PM
@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

I thought as much initially but reading through the first paragraph which I couldn't even finish due to comprehension, I discovered that this is not from AI or any writing tools. If it is Ai content then the poster temper with it more than necessary and render it useless. English is not our mother tongue and as such, not everyone can be fluent in it but at least let consider the readers and try as much as possible to make it understandable.

Long and informative posts are interesting to read to the extent you won't like it to end but some long posts are so boring to read and hard to comprehend just like the example sighted in the Op post. There's no grammar compliance or usage of punctuations. It's not worth reading when you try to avoid Ai content detection and make the whole content meaningless to the readers. You're at disadvantage because you'll be ignored and you won't have the merit you are chasing. It cost nothing to be original and unique.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 16, 2024, 06:00:50 PM
It is very simple to achieve, you could have make a reference to such post without quoting the entire post on your thread, if some of his contents were AI or plagiarized post, that could simply affect your own post as well because you have made for yourself a copy of them all by quoting the whole contents, anyway, your idea it well fetched because its not by how far but how well, when we make posts, we should not be more concerned on the long contents but the key points in which could be summarized in a few sentences.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: qwertyup23 on May 16, 2024, 06:03:24 PM
Holy crap- I mean, I understand that most newbies associate long posts with quality. But in that case, I really doubt that someone would have the patience to even read that huge blocks of texts. In all honesty, I would never in a million years read that kind of long post especially that if he is beating around the bush.

Newbies, always remember that the key to making quality post is not the quantity of texts that you enter. If you can explain your point in a very concise manner that everyone would understand, then that would be considered as "quality" to majority of the members here.

How long the post could be depends on various factors and in certain cases wall of text is needed for a better and clearer explanation of what we try to convey to the users such as guides and Tutorials about something indeed long and will take a few minutes to read the process and understand.

But how to do it is something that they need to know and there are some guides like [GUIDE] A good post/reply and formatting [UPDATED] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224196.0) can help user to post the long posts in better format.

When I see something that's a completely big wall of text then I don't bother read at all.

I agree that the amount of text that you write in a discussion varies per topic.

There are reputable members here who can write huge blocks of text but remains quality when you read it altogether. If you engage in a fruitful discussion with someone on an interesting topic or debate, then expect a battle of words. But if a topic is as simply as asking for an opinion on something, then at least make your point in 2-3 sentences.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Onyeeze on May 16, 2024, 06:29:45 PM
You do realize you're making the same mistake right?
Writing a phone paragraph repeating the same idea 3 times when you could have made it in only one line sentence?
Yes, we are meant to make a mistake because making a mistake through typos is general including you, you can repeat words but on the process the read will understand your point of view because its not ambiguous like the user I quoted in my thread, at least you have corrected me and I have taken corrections that maybe I can use one sentence to illustrate what I mean in my context, but when you look at the user I quoted profile you can see he or her does it continuously and its not orderly comprehensive, if article is comprehensive you will not complain, but you have understood what I mean.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: yazher on May 16, 2024, 08:03:50 PM
Well! most users in this community don't want to read such many words especially when it doesn't make any sense for them to continue rather the posters should make an effort to summarize whatever they wanna say, especially when it comes to asking questions regarding cryptocurrencies so that he will get a god answers as well. Others who are making long posts are those who have strong knowledge regarding crypto giving some comprehensive information whether to prevent others from getting scammed or to further increase their understanding of the new trend in the crypto industry, at this time, you need to focus and take your time to read it carefully because it's for your benefit.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Alpha Marine on May 16, 2024, 08:24:30 PM
The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it :(

This usually happens to me.
It even happened to me reading the post that was quoted by OP. I read the first part hoping so dearly he would make sense, but along the line I knew it wasn't worth it.

I do read long post, but the moment I figure it's not worth it, I just skip it. Aside from the skipping a post because it doesn't make sense, when a post if just jam-packed together with no proper spacing and paragraphing, I tend to skip them. I don't care if the post is long, it should have sense and it should be easy to read.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: stadus on May 16, 2024, 08:59:43 PM
If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things?
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.
Exactly. The longer your post, the more visible errors will appear, which makes the post more confusing and will lost its main thought in the end. It’s always best to go straight to the point with a short but precise post, than to make a longer post and all you’ve seen are irrelevant and unnecessary points of view. With that, the reader will definitely lost its interest to start reading or to continue reading.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Hyphen(-) on May 16, 2024, 09:15:33 PM
I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.
You know, sometimes, when a user is looking for people’s attention, they think if they post plenty words it will drag people’s attention to their post, and funny enough, the thread was dropped under politics and society section.

I will also not criticize the thread but I will advice the poster to learn how to summarize and comprehend lengthy sentences into something very minimal and meaningful that can be read and I understood.

Quality of post depends on the contents and the information it carries along and not how long it is, therefore, make sure you learn before making any post in the forum.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on May 16, 2024, 10:01:04 PM
I think and agree with one common school of thought, and that is, 'brevity is king.' I don't know if am putting it right, but I am sure I have in few words buttressed my point without much explanation.

In conclusion, unless it's a research paper or some kind of thesis or something scientific or theoritical that wants to be shared or talked about, I don't think a story or a post in form of a questionaire, or a comment should be so long that a reader gets lost and confused in between lines.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 17, 2024, 05:16:38 AM
The user you quoted can be called a unique person who seems to spend all day posting on here, and maybe not only on this forum. There is even a separate topic dedicated to this character. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5495074.0
However, OP, you are right. Long posts are very rarely interesting when there is no "water" in them, and they have a very simple and clear style, leading to something basic that is worth a lot of reading.
But here, on the forum, we can get by with the most important things, with what we want or disagree with, without tormenting the reader’s eyesight.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Lucius on May 17, 2024, 09:08:08 AM
~snip~
The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it :(


If you know that a user writes "nonsense" then you will put him to "ignore" or you will simply not read his posts anymore. Those who use such topics to write some kind of post are fascinating to me, because I'm sure they don't read much more than the title of the topic, and therefore their answer is mostly meaningless. On the other hand, signature spammers do not choose where to write, nor do they care if something makes sense or not.

What the majority should do is ignore such articles, but also sometimes use the "report to moderator" button, because a good part of such topics can be reported as "low value", "off-topic" and similar.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: SamReomo on May 17, 2024, 09:16:41 AM
Most of the times I ignore reading such posts but sometimes when such posts appear on first page then I sometimes read those posts. However, the post you shared is not written very well, but it's an attempt to show others that how one can write such long posts.

I know that sometimes you'll have to make your post a little bit longer if you want to add detail information in it but most of the times making such posts isn't needed and one should try his/her best to avoid making such long posts.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 17, 2024, 10:59:25 AM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post,

I don't discourage long post but when you can make a short response and also pass on the information that you want to pass across, I encourage that. I feel there are some responses that needs you to elaborate on what you're writing and in this circumstances you can't help it but make your post lengthy although there are some replies that don't necessary need to be long but spammers use that posting pattern to appear like they have something meaningful to say but if you calm down to read their replies they're garbage and a waste of time.

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a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

You should also know that shorter replies doesn't equal to quality, the quantity of the words in your replies doesn't equal to quality. It's the content of what you wrote and how on topic those words are that determine if your post is a quality one or not. This is a forum and it needs discussion and not just posting patterns that looks like that of an AI.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Mia Chloe on May 17, 2024, 05:26:09 PM
If there is one thing I have learned on this forum, it's quality matters the most. sometimes writing lengthy posts can make some merit sources feel that the post is a quality one however overtime once the realize that such use is creating bulky post without quality, they begin to skip and ignore your write ups. Another thing people get wrong is the way the present their long texts on the forum.

Sometimes forum members skip quality posts just because they appear too bulky and seem difficult and time consuming to read. Therefore when making long posts and threads, it is important that you paraphrase and punctuate your post to the best of your ability making sure you make use of paragraphs where necessary.

Not everyone here is a proper English writer or speaker however if you are conveying the right and proper information your posts will definitely gain attention.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: HONDACD125 on May 17, 2024, 05:42:16 PM
We have the option to ignore it, don't we? I often come across such posts created by newbies trying to say something with a long wall of text but the concept isn't clear, and when I don't get the context, I simply leave it and ignore the thread. If I find the same user repeating the same thing, I ignore the user to avoid seeing such posts again only to waste my time.

Whether newbies do this for merits or not, one thing is clear they don't like reading much and are more fond of writing because if they were into reading as well, they would have read the guidelines provided all around the forum about how one should behave in the forum.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Churchillvv on May 17, 2024, 08:35:25 PM
Some time ago I used to write a very long post although then I had enough time to run around the forum but as soon as I began my academics section I couldn't write long post, although my long posts where not necessarily as OP's because i quoted a lot of people in one post contributing my thoughts. It was seen as a good post some times but I felt there was no need to keep writing such long post as I was only repeating thoughts but now I only write straight to the point even though it's short. I got this idea of writing straight to the point from a role model @LoyceV since then I don't complicate things when writing.

I can say OP still has enough time to write but if it's necessary, I'm okay with the writing but if it's full of shit then I will skip. Some times making illustration to express your idea or thoughts makes a post very interesting but when it's not to pass a good knowledge then it's very shitty.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Rengga Jati on May 17, 2024, 09:07:51 PM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...
Yes, it's not a matter of whether it's long or short, but it's the content and how someone can summarize and present the writing so that it's easier to read, understand, and familiar to other memes, and doesn't get bored of reading it. Whether it is long or short is not a problem. because sometimes people's writing styles are different, some people like to get straight to the point, some people have to have clear explanations, some people are convoluted.

but if it was written like in the quote, honestly, it would be quite boring and don't expect to read more than 2 sentences. It would be better if there were paragraph separations and organized  as well as sentences or points so that what is conveyed can be more easily received and it can be more comfortable to read. But then again, maybe everyone has time to be independent in making much better posts, as long as they are willing to learn.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Fiasem20 on May 17, 2024, 09:08:31 PM
Op you absolutely correct, lengthy post is not an ultimate for a making a quality post.Most times I would want to contribute on lengthy posts buh you know what I get discouraged due to the lengthiness of the post because I don't the time to read long post,at times when I'm reading lengthy post I get confused most times.Lengthy post isn't equivalent to quality post you just have to be brief and go straight to the point.In essence I'm not saying that all lengthy posts are shit post but most users just have that thought that they would be merited only if they make their post long but notwithstanding even with 4 paragraph you can still get merited if only your on the track.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Kristiyana on May 18, 2024, 08:21:22 AM
Actually making your post to be very lengthy, and also making a quality post, this are two different things if you're making your post to look very lengthy you also need to make it look more quality because the  quality of your post matters a lot. However making a lengthy post is not the ultimate the most important thing is how quality is the post? Because if you keep making quality post that's how people are getting attracted to your post, you know people always get attracted to quality stuff. making our post to be very lengthy is good but we also need to make it look more quality and also reasonable so as to attract people, this will make you to gain marit so easily for those who always look for a quick way to gain marit.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: pinggoki on May 18, 2024, 08:57:37 AM
If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.
The problem is that you make it too concise or too short that there's nothing worth discussing on your topic, you will always end up getting that post deleted and since there's really no metric of what's the acceptable length for a thread starter, it will always be a guessing game for the newbies but that's not even an excuse anyway, I mean there are other things that you can do to improve how you post, just looking at what the other people post here in the forum and you would easily differentiate the mistakes that you've committed. Totally agree that the more you right, the more you complicate things and in some cases, hyperfocus on one subject without expounding on it to further improve your point, maybe knowing when to get to talking and when to do less talking, you'll probably going to see the improvements.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Helena Yu on May 18, 2024, 09:13:01 AM
The funny thing @OP himself is the one who trying to make his post longer than it what should be and many users that post in this thread do same lol.

The problem is that you make it too concise or too short that there's nothing worth discussing on your topic, you will always end up getting that post deleted and since there's really no metric of what's the acceptable length for a thread starter
Not really, this post consists of 4 words and it didn't get deleted since 2 months ago. There's a difference between "posting for nothing" and "posting for something".

What are those features?


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Promocodeudo on May 18, 2024, 11:04:53 AM
Personally am not against lengthy post despite that it can be discouraging most times to read, I Believe that there are long post that are very educative and informative, though what matters here is how problem solving and educative ones post is, there are brief post that solves the readers problem and such post are very impactful generally, even without being told if you are someone that can easily i identify quality post you will know at first sight, op i wont also dipute the fact that you are  making sense, it does not matter how long a post is, what every reader want is to satisfy his or her  curiosity, I believe we are all here to learn and contribute to this community, that's why every reader wants to figure out something very interesting and beneficial to them before the can reply based on their observations.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Essential10 on May 18, 2024, 12:39:54 PM
Not everyone posts long all the time. Long posts sometimes become or are necessary because when a topic needs to be explained, the post is long to explain. There are many people who like to read more and many people who like to read very little and avoid it after seeing the big post. At first I used to find it difficult to read long posts but I got to one section and realized that actually there is nothing on reading the more you read the more you understand. I read Buy the DIP, and HODL! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132720.0) many posts in the thread, especially @JayJuanGee replies post are very large, all the posts are explained very well. From there I used to read  posts and really learning a lot about investing. I don't care much whether the post is short or big I just want to read the posts and gain knowledge from them.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Kristiyana on June 08, 2024, 08:36:25 AM
Actually there's nothing wrong in making our post to be very lengthy, what really matters is how quality and meaningful the post is. because even if you  make your post very lengthy once it doesn't have this qualities it totally becomes a waste, because most people think making their post to be very lengthy will make them to gain marit so easily without knowing that the quality of a post matters a lot so making a lengthy post sometimes is not the ultimate.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: aioc on June 08, 2024, 03:36:55 PM
There's nothing wrong with long posts as long as its interesting and continue to generate interest as you read on like an investigative post or a unique concept about a platform or an issue about one project, I have no problem reading a long post.

It depends on the kind of topic, what I don't like about long posts is how the creator configures the posts, there should be spacing, correct placement of punctuation, highlight, and summary, and of course, if the poster is a quality poster.

This is a discussion platform we will always encounter long posts, check the scam accusations section and see for yourself.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Distinctin on June 08, 2024, 03:51:49 PM
There's nothing wrong with long posts as long as its interesting and continue to generate interest as you read on like an investigative post or a unique concept about a platform or an issue about one project, I have no problem reading a long post.

It depends on the kind of topic, what I don't like about long posts is how the creator configures the posts, there should be spacing, correct placement of punctuation, highlight, and summary, and of course, if the poster is a quality poster.

This is a discussion platform we will always encounter long posts, check the scam accusations section and see for yourself.
Long posts might be quite tiring to read and comprehend to what’s the author is trying to express. However, it’s also a case to case basis. If the topic requires a detailed explanation so that the reader will easy get the target or the main thought, then having a long post is a must. But if a certain topic can be explained well through short but precise post, then that would be a lot better.

I’m not against with long posts, but if it’s obviously made for merit hunting, just to say a lot and talk a lot, regardless if it’s still on topic or off topic anymore, then I guess it won’t work in the forum. Majority of the readers/posters would still prefer for a short than lengthy post, as long as the main idea is there and it’s not off-topic.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: KingsDen on June 08, 2024, 05:57:51 PM
Actually there's nothing wrong in making our post to be very lengthy, what really matters is how quality and meaningful the post is. because even if you  make your post very lengthy once it doesn't have this qualities it totally becomes a waste, because most people think making their post to be very lengthy will make them to gain marit so easily without knowing that the quality of a post matters a lot so making a lengthy post sometimes is not the ultimate.
You do not have to first conceive how long your post will be before you start making the post. Whether long or short, full of quality as you may describe or not. What is important is the naturality of your post. When your post is natural, it will start and end at the right points. This means it could just be few lines today and tomorrow it can be paragraphs.

Sometimes when I see the profile of some users, it looks like something written by AI. It could be 10 lines for every post consistently. Just like telling AI to make you a post of 100 words describing something.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Churchillvv on June 08, 2024, 06:10:54 PM
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You do not have to first conceive how long your post will be before you start making the post. Whether long or short, full of quality as you may describe or not. What is important is the naturality of your post. When your post is natural, it will start and end at the right points. This means it could just be few lines today and tomorrow it can be paragraphs.

Sometimes when I see the profile of some users, it looks like something written by AI. It could be 10 lines for every post consistently. Just like telling AI to make you a post of 100 words describing something.
True! Personally as long as I'm interested in a topic and I know what I'm saying it all depends on the level of information I have for me to write the words, I don't count how many words I have to write it all comes from my mind as long as I'm not yet exhausted with words then I will keep writing once the information has been passed then it's all over.

I don't really know how people write a certain number of words and then do the same in every topic they met making wonder how exactly can I express my self in just a number of words every time, it's quiet suspicious. some people usually write a wall of text believing it would be seen as quality while some just write a few lines but straight to the point which is best for me.

Quantity is not quality, and vice versa.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: kentrolla on June 08, 2024, 07:25:25 PM
Long or short post doesn't matter unless it has content because there are certain posts which cannot be shortened and some people have natural tendency of explaining things in details but most of the time people just skip the longer posts hence it has to be written in a way it's easy for other to comprehend. I have noticed few posts created through AI and modified with word spanners and such other tools but don't see such post from tenured members.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on June 08, 2024, 07:57:21 PM
@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read.
You think he's got so much time that he'd be linking each word to each sentences like that althrough? Or that you' sometimes get busy and you think he doesn't? Nothing in that wall of crap looked self-made to me.. it's always pretty obvious that these newbies have got several alts and, they can't make several meaningful post for all of them at the same time without aids.. Now does it make sense to you?
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I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.
it's their thing!! They could create  several accounts that would indulge in discussions on the same thread. Other users like - people tryna post to complete thier quota for the week could also indulge in their shitty convo. How do you expect me to write on a thread that was created by someone that went offline after posting it?


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: sotelorene on June 08, 2024, 08:50:37 PM
Actually there's nothing wrong in making our post to be very lengthy, what really matters is how quality and meaningful the post is. because even if you  make your post very lengthy once it doesn't have this qualities it totally becomes a waste, because most people think making their post to be very lengthy will make them to gain marit so easily without knowing that the quality of a post matters a lot so making a lengthy post sometimes is not the ultimate.


Exactly, making a long thread is not a crime or is not bad but rather let it pass a good information i mean something that will help the forum or something that will add value to whosoever that will read it, some lengthy post can be informative and interesting why some can be boring and I have seen both newbie and high rank member posting long thread that doesn't mean anything but newbie always fall victim because they feel there post can be recognized due to the lengthiness but that's totally wrong though there are some post you can't just summary that you will have to break it down so that everyone can understand it.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: tvplus006 on June 08, 2024, 09:11:37 PM
Yes, it takes a lot of effort and time to briefly and clearly state your point. Blaise Pascal said very well about this: "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time" - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Mayor of ogba on June 09, 2024, 06:03:24 AM
There is nothing wrong with a long post, and I can read a long post, provided the topic of the long post is interesting to me. You don't expect everyone on this forum to be a short poster because some people have to explain themselves very well before they can arrive at the point or message they want to pass here. If people know you are a good poster, even if you make a post of 400 words, they will patiently read your post because they know they will gain knowledge that will help them in life.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Belarge on June 09, 2024, 07:27:54 AM
Actually there's nothing wrong in making our post to be very lengthy, what really matters is how quality and meaningful the post is. because even if you  make your post very lengthy once it doesn't have this qualities it totally becomes a waste, because most people think making their post to be very lengthy will make them to gain marit so easily without knowing that the quality of a post matters a lot so making a lengthy post sometimes is not the ultimate.
I've asked myself to abide by the terms of the forum. Lengthy posts appear to be boring to read and tiring, we just have to do what's best for us because earning merits is not all about long posts, but these posts should comprised of essential information. Our posts should be constructive because having a smooth history of vital posts will shoots one's forum account to top ranking member.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: avp2306 on June 09, 2024, 07:42:06 AM
I've asked myself to abide by the terms of the forum. Lengthy posts appear to be boring to read and tiring, we just have to do what's best for us because earning merits is not all about long posts, but these posts should comprised of essential information. Our posts should be constructive because having a smooth history of vital posts will shoots one's forum account to top ranking member.

I feel dizzy to read such long post the same what OP put as example on his thread so I choose to ignore it and find other more interesting to read. I also guess that merit giver won't also waste their time to read it so the chance for that post to get a merit is so low.

So much better to post according to the topic discuss and don't worry about its length since for sure many people would like to read it especially if your post have sense or give something more value to the thread.

Constructive post should be the main priority of people and not the length.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Justbillywitt on June 09, 2024, 09:29:51 AM
The quality of a post is not judged by how long you write it, sometimes the contents of long-winded posts without any selling value will look mediocre even though they are written at length. The post that you quote on the topic will make the eyes of the people who read it feel tired due to not creating several paragraphs that make the appearance more appealing to the eye. Whenever and wherever, quality will be more valuable than quantity. Posts that are written only a few lines but have informational and educational values for anyone who reads them will be of higher quality than posts written like sites that contain football news which are written from the first minute until the match is over.

If it's on paragraph I will agree that lengthy posts should be well paragraphed so that people reading it will have interest to read it and shouldn't be confused when reading it. Apart from that I don't see anything that's wrong with long posts. There are some posts that you can't express yourself in just few lines. There are people who drives joy in making lengthy posts because it's the only way they can make all their valid points.

There are some points you will want to highlight but for you to successfully achieve that you will have to digress a little and make some examples for better understanding of your audience, what is important is your plotting. Your ability to come back to your original intention of making the posts after the digression without leaving a gap that will confuse your audience is what matters.

Sometimes what make posts lengthy is the author choice of vocabularies, an author will want to simplify his/her writing by making use of simpler words that can take up many lines where as using just a bigger word would have reduced the many lines. This is intentional because he wants his audience to understand what he is writing about without difficulties to understand his/her write up. For me I don't really care about the length of a post provided it convey meaningful information in the end.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: dzungmobile on June 09, 2024, 10:05:55 AM
If it's on paragraph I will agree that lengthy posts should be well paragraphed so that people reading it will have interest to read it and shouldn't be confused when reading it. Apart from that I don't see anything that's wrong with long posts. There are some posts that you can't express yourself in just few lines. There are people who drives joy in making lengthy posts because it's the only way they can make all their valid points.
When you write a long, rambling post or paragraph, you as a writer can lose your main focus on what you want to express through your post or paragraph. As a writer, if you distract yourself to the main point, how readers can get your 'valid points'. It's unrealistic.

Lengthy post or paragraph only makes readers stop reading and it is like challenge for them, created by the writer, to understand what the writer want to say.

It's not problem with you but with many readers, it's big issue.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Cadaver20 on June 09, 2024, 10:22:13 AM
There is no need to say what can be said in 5 sentences in 15 sentences. In many cases, the main point becomes irrelevant. Besides, it is boring to readers. Expressing your thoughts in small sentences is the art. It makes language attractive. Readers enjoy it too. And if the writing is informative, then the merit will come for sure. There is no need to write valueless paragraph.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Roseline492 on June 09, 2024, 10:22:46 AM
There is nothing wrong with a long post, and I can read a long post, provided the topic of the long post is interesting to me. You don't expect everyone on this forum to be a short poster because some people have to explain themselves very well before they can arrive at the point or message they want to pass here.

I agree with you because people has different pattern of posting and some persons are very good with summarizing there post within few lines while some persons took there time to really explain in details about there points, so for me I see nothing wrong with writing a very long post but however what matters is if the writer was able to convey his point or message in a way that is understandable and more informative as such that it impacts positively on people life's because that's the most important thing and not how long or short his post is.

Though I know that there are so many long post that after reading it, it does not make any meaning but that doesn't mean that every other long post are the same, however the reason why most people does not like long post is because they find it very difficult reading a particular post for some minutes.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Issa56 on June 09, 2024, 09:24:04 PM
There is nothing wrong with a long post, and I can read a long post, provided the topic of the long post is interesting to me.
If a topic is interesting and well arranged, you will be motivated to keep on reading the post, but from the way some people post, you are going to be discouraged, you will get tired of reading. Some of the posts will lack punctuation so if you are reading it you get confused sometimes. If you know you can’t properly arrange a long post, then just look for a way to summarize it, and make it meaningful, make it short and am sure people will appreciate it.

Some people do think until they make long posts before they will be merited, it doesn’t work like that even short posts are merited, if it’s informative, and useful to anyone or the forum entirely, then it’s going to be merited. But am not saying long posts aren’t merited also, if they are useful to anyone, and properly arranged, they might be merited by anyone.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: PX-Z on June 09, 2024, 11:45:49 PM
Some people do think until they make long posts before they will be merited, it doesn’t work like that even short posts are merited, if it’s informative, and useful to anyone or the forum entirely, then it’s going to be merited.
Exactly, i never merit a very long post just because its long post, if you can explain in 1-2 paragraphs you're good. But sometimes it's just repeating. 

If its a long post tutorial on how to do things like technical things with images then i will bother to read them than those boring full of text


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 10, 2024, 02:20:41 AM
I can still remember that name because that user often creates a new thread, and the content of that thread is a wall of text just like what the OP has posted.
I can still remember that somebody here in the forum criticizes me because I'm making a shit long of text at that time, that it looked like a wall of text because I'm not using double space at that time. I can't remember the name though, but I'm forever grateful to you. :)

That kind of posts are not attractive for us readers to read. I mean I didn't saw that thread, but I will not read it if I saw it, and I know that those who saw it didn't read all of it either because like me, they saw it unattractive to read as well. Who wants to read a wall of text like that. If you want to convey something, then at least make it presentable, and not just type something, and completely forgot how to use double space to at least make it presentable.

I hope that nobody here will do what that user is doing. Words matter, but the context of the post is way better, and it doesn't matter if it's a long post or a short one, as long as you share your opinion.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Albarq on June 10, 2024, 02:15:35 PM
It's true that making quality posts is difficult but I really like it, especially since I'm a beginner, I have to learn a lot and improve in science so I don't get left  knowledge other people


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Ever-young on June 11, 2024, 10:21:24 PM
If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.

You are absolutely correct, that is why it's very important to know or be sure of what you are doing or about to post before writing it for others to understand and read meaning to what they post.

So actually it's not by quantity but by quality, we should do things easier for people to read and understand what they are reading and also it can be helpful to most people in the essence that they will learn from it.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Franctoshi on June 11, 2024, 10:53:48 PM
Clearly, everyone has its opinion on the type of post that appeals to his or her eyes, But to me, I love straight to the point posts despite conveying important information, it's still much better if such quality posts are written in a condensed format because sometimes we may not have the time on our side to have to read everything in that long post despite being informative or being written by an interesting writer, there are many things to read here in the forum to be spending my whole time in reading just one thing, especially post that has no direction because from my experience it is really annoying reading such long posts and at the end it was pointless.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Sakanwa on June 12, 2024, 01:20:37 AM
You are correct Op,that making a long post is not really what's too important in the forum,how quality it is,but will you see with me that every quality post can not be of just two sentence? because before you break down the meaning of what you want to express to the audience,you must said something long.I agree with you that quality is the most important thing,but in order to express that idea of yours,and make the next person understand properly,the sentence must be a bit long.A good writing must be atleast four to five reasonable sentences,and the sentences must be very simple and clear and easy to understand.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Peanutswar on June 12, 2024, 01:40:24 AM
Sometimes it's not enough to give information so people tend to need longer details but seems this quoted information is not too much information instead a subjective context is given by the author, if creating a long post just to merit seems the person who would like to read this will not read the full context and give time to read and just making realize the content is just having a redundant information. We don't have an issue with the long post as long as it helps but if the information is just copy pasted and AI generated seems a problem, tons of cases too newbies creating a long thread and detected as AI.

AI Spam Report Reference Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456516.0). You can see a lot of AI spammer here.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: avp2306 on June 13, 2024, 02:25:37 PM
You are correct Op,that making a long post is not really what's too important in the forum,how quality it is,but will you see with me that every quality post can not be of just two sentence? because before you break down the meaning of what you want to express to the audience,you must said something long.I agree with you that quality is the most important thing,but in order to express that idea of yours,and make the next person understand properly,the sentence must be a bit long.A good writing must be atleast four to five reasonable sentences,and the sentences must be very simple and clear and easy to understand.

Some people think about that creating long post would be good for them. But they failed to know that lots of people doesn't like to read such heavy text without having any context base on what discussion discuss.

There are some that it will be easy for them to gain a merit if they write long post. That's why at this point if they read this thread they should figure out that its not necessary to do that. They just need to be on point and their post is understandable and helpful then everything is fine.

Also it will be more easy for people to understand what he's pointing out on his post if he make all things more clearer and he don't add filler words.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: albon on June 13, 2024, 07:32:01 PM
most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.
Some new users tend to post these very long, unabridged topics and posts that provide intuitive and outdated information because they think this might make them high-quality posters in the hope of receiving merits and respect from the members. However, these lengthy articles, which include many lines, sentences, and characters, lack proper formatting and correct writing, making people not enthusiastic about reading them because they feel bored as the writer wants to fill the topic and posts with non-new information, facts, and ideas without summarizing and simplifying what he wants to convey to the public easily and attractively. Additionally, they might plagiarize from other blogs and forum sites without putting resources or creating AI-generated posts, making them unethical members as they attribute these contents to themselves to increase their contributions and activities.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Maslate on June 13, 2024, 09:59:23 PM
Clearly, everyone has its opinion on the type of post that appeals to his or her eyes, But to me, I love straight to the point posts despite conveying important information, it's still much better if such quality posts are written in a condensed format because sometimes we may not have the time on our side to have to read everything in that long post despite being informative or being written by an interesting writer, there are many things to read here in the forum to be spending my whole time in reading just one thing, especially post that has no direction because from my experience it is really annoying reading such long posts and at the end it was pointless.
I will agree on this. Each of us has our own preference when it comes to posting, regardless if it’s a lengthy or short post as long as the main subject is already there. However, there are times that we get so easily tired in reading a long post regardless if it’s topic is still interesting. With that, majority still prefer to read a short post that has already everything that makes the topic relevant. Aside that it saves your time and effort, you can still do a lot of reading next to it without getting yourself tired and boredom.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Russlenat on June 13, 2024, 10:28:21 PM
You are correct Op,that making a long post is not really what's too important in the forum,how quality it is,but will you see with me that every quality post can not be of just two sentence? because before you break down the meaning of what you want to express to the audience,you must said something long.I agree with you that quality is the most important thing,but in order to express that idea of yours,and make the next person understand properly,the sentence must be a bit long.A good writing must be atleast four to five reasonable sentences,and the sentences must be very simple and clear and easy to understand.

Some people think about that creating long post would be good for them. But they failed to know that lots of people doesn't like to read such heavy text without having any context base on what discussion discuss.

There are some that it will be easy for them to gain a merit if they write long post. That's why at this point if they read this thread they should figure out that its not necessary to do that. They just need to be on point and their post is understandable and helpful then everything is fine.

Also it will be more easy for people to understand what he's pointing out on his post if he make all things more clearer and he don't add filler words.
Mostly, the longer your post is, the more mistakes are visible and you’re likely to be repeating the same context again and again which makes the post pointless and not worthy anymore to read. That is mostly my encounter with long posts in the forum, except for those who really know how to stay on point despite of the length of the post that push the readers to continue reading more.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 14, 2024, 06:44:10 AM
I’m surprised the user quoted by the OP isn’t wearing a Stake signature, since lengthy, redundant, and low quality posts are typical of a large percent of the members in that campaign. Unfortunately, there is too much of an incentive that this kind of spam will continue being a problem on the forum. Even when they aren’t wearing a signature, you will have other spammers who interact with them and give them attention to increase their post count.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Ishicryptic on June 14, 2024, 09:25:31 AM
I think that we shouldn't judge a post merely because it's too long or short, to me what matters most is the content, if you are reading a long quality post then you wouldn't really mind that it is long because the content is interesting to you. Where problem arises is if the content of the long post doesn't make sense, then it will be boring and there'll be no zeal to continue reading. Although I personally prefer posts that are not too long and goes straight to the point because there are other comments to read too, a comment that is long must have quality content for me to read it otherwise I just glance through and ignore reading further.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Marvelockg on June 14, 2024, 01:16:02 PM
I think that we shouldn't judge a post merely because it's too long or short, to me what matters most is the content, if you are reading a long quality post then you wouldn't really mind that it is long because the content is interesting to you. Where problem arises is if the content of the long post doesn't make sense, then it will be boring and there'll be no zeal to continue reading. Although I personally prefer posts that are not too long and goes straight to the point because there are other comments to read too, a comment that is long must have quality content for me to read it otherwise I just glance through and ignore reading further.
no one is against you writing a lengthy piece most expecially when there is no shorter way to doing that. What's the issue is that you need to understand that you're writing what others will have to read and when you jam-pack everything like the one the OP quoted, from first sight you just have to skip it because it's not even appealing to the eyes. It's just like what happens in the normal life, once your appearance is bad, it doesn't really matter what you know or the value you carry, people will most times judge you from your look and that's why it's just right to put in the effort to appear more decent and in this context, it's best you put in the effort to write in a manner that people can easily read what you're trying to pass across and profer solutions to it

Note that writing too short like some few words in a line is also considered spamming and so you just have to put in the effort to moderate everything you're doing.if you must write a lengthy article, don't fail to give regular spacing at after an approximate of four to five lines so the reader can follow up on the message you're conveying. It's not a big thing to ask.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Ever-young on June 14, 2024, 07:05:51 PM
If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.

I swear, you are completely correct, I have encounter so many posts that got me my interest to reply or give out my own perspective but got confused at the middle or finishing point, which will make me not to know what to say or write anymore.

That is why we should be careful on what we post here, and also get the right source of our information to enable people to know what to reply and also long post doesn't guarantee us to earn a merit, although it doesn't matter how long or short our post but since we know what we post and it can impact knowledge to people.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Onyeeze on June 14, 2024, 08:28:03 PM
You are correct Op,that making a long post is not really what's too important in the forum,how quality it is,but will you see with me that every quality post can not be of just two sentence? because before you break down the meaning of what you want to express to the audience,you must said something long.I agree with you that quality is the most important thing,but in order to express that idea of yours,and make the next person understand properly,the sentence must be a bit long.A good writing must be atleast four to five reasonable sentences,and the sentences must be very simple and clear and easy to understand.
you don't need to write a long thing to call it a quality post a quality post is a post that the currency or passes a knowledge from one person to another person many people misunderstood what is the quality post a four line sentence can be called a quality because is answerable to your question so any question that I have a good answer with a four Lines sentence that is a quality post it does not necessarily mean that you will write a paragraph that will contain 200 words so writing such will not guarantee you a quality writer, so I made it to be plane and understandable to every person so that our beginners cannot meet a step.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: teamsherry on June 14, 2024, 10:51:27 PM
It's very true that not all long post carry any information or indicates that a post is of good quality, but I knowing users that make very good quality king post, although i still find it exhausting to read, there are very informative and when you look at them, there contain hours of research and picking of points to make those post, but some forum member misuse this and just make long stupid post that makes no sense.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Mayor_winks on June 14, 2024, 11:32:59 PM
As a newbie, I can't come here and see a long post. I will skip and look for short ones. Especially on this forum where everything looks tiny.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: leonair on June 15, 2024, 11:39:22 AM
As a newbie, I can't come here and see a long post. I will skip and look for short ones. Especially on this forum where everything looks tiny.
You can't look long prepared as a newbie, and it needs to be corrected. Forum users explain briefly what can be explained by short posts. But in some cases, we can only explain some of the things in the form, so it may be seen that sometimes our posts can be significant, but these are good posts. For this, sometimes the post is long but should be read, and knowledge should be gained from here. On the other hand, as a new member of the forum, you should read more to learn better.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: Porfirii on June 15, 2024, 11:59:07 AM
As a newbie, I can't come here and see a long post. I will skip and look for short ones. Especially on this forum where everything looks tiny.
You can't look long prepared as a newbie, and it needs to be corrected. Forum users explain briefly what can be explained by short posts. But in some cases, we can only explain some of the things in the form, so it may be seen that sometimes our posts can be significant, but these are good posts. For this, sometimes the post is long but should be read, and knowledge should be gained from here. On the other hand, as a new member of the forum, you should read more to learn better.

Yes, newbies should make an effort and read more than they are used to, especially today that other social media favor very (too) concise information.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort and try to be concise and explain our arguments briefly. Moreover, we should also think in the reader when we quote previous posts and avoid text sheets (there is a rule in the forum about that), cutting the non relevant information, which is not seen very often, unfortunately.

The long and well-structured explanations on topics of interest that have been well researched are probably the most valuable thing we have in this forum. But that has nothing to do with the tendency of some to pretend by simply writing long texts that do not contribute much, as if it were a school exam for which they had not studied much.


Title: Re: Making a long post is not the ultimate
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on June 15, 2024, 06:25:02 PM
Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

We need to Understood that we need to work together more to build sustaineble society.
What's more countries like africa/latin America or eastern europe it makes harder for many people life there becouse a lot people only goal will be to get out If poverty and when they are lucky or work up themselfes they will be greedy and always insecure it's not becouse they are bad persons it's mostly becouse from the early age they saw that everybody Are they own goverment don't care and society is hard.....so it will be in their Memory and when they get rich they make sure they always want to be sure they have surplus not less and good buffer zone of wealth to make sure they never need to starve again they sceptical to contribute to society because they know they need to be careful with their money once it's gone nobody not gona help them and goverment not about social AID. So that's why the wages are low becouse the fear of company owners If they give out too much they might be poor themselfes
That's all wrong becouse it will make people selfish moves only that's not gona improve the society as whole the balanced perfect way should be that goverment will be strong on background and everybody want to innovate grow and improve in everything not just chasing money and thinking about to have enough so atleast they never fall again back to poverty.
But people need to Understood that we need work together and it's about more sharing then just collecting wealth and stay scared that what creates corruption stress crime and society where nobody can't be sure what happens tommorow and enough money never enough becouse most of people chasing money too and you always need to be catious your own goverment or business partners might want to cheat you or take from you ... don't make mistake they might be not bad people just that from the early Age they experinced starving and poverty and no goverment support ...so it's in their Memory now that they must be rich and not give out anything....well goverment support don't mean only money the goverments can support many ways like give free access to education and learning courses.
If those countries the africa latin america or eastern Europe countries the balcans like albania or former soviet union countries want to be strong as society and go forward in life then they should stop this old way of thinking " screw everything" " be strong" " me me i need more more" and so.
The good balance of society is goverment support and help with innovation and with funds and workers earn wages that they can also enjoy the life Also untfortunately USA and Canada start to remaind to people that latin america, africa and old soviet countries mindset the goverments falling down and not improve.
The good life balance and respect in society towards everybody are in switzerland.
And If people don't change that old way of thinking nothing gets better that's why people with money they make money in those countries and leave becouse they don't want to live in society where everybody only chasing the money and try to take it from others all the ways as possible in other words it's not normal and not healthy just to live in survival mode everyday.
That's why a lot people Going to Dubai so they feel there more like one it's a human nature to be united and working together not just thinking everyday how to survive If you leave money on the side yes people in Dubai are wealthy but also a lot great people with good nature and good hearts you might be good heart person with innovative and good mindset but If you are surrounded with people who try to make only money to have more than others then it's a fake society.
The humans are not meant to be alone but working in unity and getting rewarded by their merits to society.
Covid 19 was good example how bad it will be in isolation without others we are social by our nature as humans.
So off course everybody work for themselfes you don't need to share all but the rule is Simple you should give if you want to receive
And we never end conflicts and wars by thinking same ways our souls not die and after we nuke ourselfes again and again we recarniate again all over on the planet earth to learn again and If we don't learn we born all over again until we learn that how to live in respectful ways.
Just because bad history and wrong actions of our parents and previous political people we don't need to define ourselfes but need to change outselfes.
Look Even the russian oligarcsh like berezwsky abramovich....why they left their countries? They wamted to live in London UK in Western countries, why? Becouse they have money and wealth they got sick and tired of focus on everyday to wealth and money and dealing with envy of others who not interested about them as people or persons but mostly about their money.
Rich and wealthy are Also sick of this money money...for wealthy and rich the wealth is just something elementary to feel good and enjoy the life that's why they seeks the societies where nobody dont even talk about money the money is just there and it's not about status symbol or show off it's just to make feel good and live your life as normal human ...that's why we see endless conflicts social chaos corruption
wars in latin america africa and some eastern europe balcan countries becouse people live by survival mode it will kill slowly their health also that way.

I have to say i Went italy and france....i was amazed how relax and slow everything was there people knew how to enjoy life and money is not reason to rush.

I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.
The length of the topic doesn't matter for me, the points that accompanies the post and pepper formatting is the ultimate thing. This post above could've made more sense if it was formatted well and made more readable.

The poster failed to communicate the points to the understanding of readers. I've literally seen longer topics which made real sense and people contributed very well to it. I tried reading it, but I was bored with its presentation in the first place and was discouraged to continue reading. Improper presentation was his greatest offense in my own understanding, not necessarily the length of the topic.