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Title: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 02:36:55 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on May 20, 2024, 02:47:13 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Well, this i believe is nothing new, even though it's the first time I am reading about this on this forum.
Personally, I feel corruption have somehow eaten deep into almost everything in this world, that it's beginning to appear like a normal thing, talk about the government, the people, organizations, what about churches and even charity organizations? You did be surprised at the level of corruptions going on in this places.

So, if churches and charity organizations can be swimming in corruption, how much more sports organizing bodies like mentioned boxing federation, the UFC and so on, I can bet my balls the even FIFA, the premier league and so on all run on corruption, why? Because alot of people are corruption themselves, and as long as this set of people are the ones heading the affires of this organizations, rest assure the entire organization is corrupt, but they won't let it out to the public.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 20, 2024, 02:56:59 PM
My favorite sports games are football and tennis, and I am more comfortable gambling only on football games and partially on tennis.I read one article that explains how some boxing and wrestling games are usually being sold to some whale investors whose intention is to take advantage of the losses of other gamblers who staked in the game. Naturally, I don't see myself as a big fan of boxing, not even because of the corruption going on in the system. 


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: YOSHIE on May 20, 2024, 02:58:37 PM
Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
I'm not sure, whether the sport of boxing really makes some fans angry about the behavior of promoters and judges, that's some of the facts we see, boxing has always been synonymous with corrupt mafias, your question reminds me of something said by: @John McGlothlin.

Facts that happened: How did boxing become so corrupt so that there are several "champions" at each weight class who never fight each other? (https://www.quora.com/How-did-boxing-become-so-corrupt-so-that-there-are-several-champions-at-each-weight-class-who-never-fight-each-other)

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The multi-champion fiasco came about as a result of:

• multiple sanctioning bodies who charge multiple sanctioning fees for multiple champions;
• promoters allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies, and only fighting particular opponents in order to have more “title” fights, and make more money than they could with a single champion.
• TV providers allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies and promoters

But as far as I know, not all boxing sports can be called corrupt and bad sports like we imagine, not all boxing sauces are spicy, there are still many sauces that have a sweet taste.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Gozie51 on May 20, 2024, 03:15:37 PM
I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Wiwo on May 20, 2024, 03:29:27 PM
I don't pick interest in boxing like I do with football and basketball as part of sport games to bet on, at least with football and basketball I can easily predict the game and if luck be on my side, I will win such bet, but boxing on the other hand look not real to me and that made me to accept with what you said about the possibility of game fixing in boxing so for that, if you bet on such games you have low or no chances of making the right predictions before even any attempt to win the bet.

Just like wrestling which is also outlaw from international Olympics, due to match fixing and unreal events boxing play out in such manner too, for that we as sport bettors must come to term with the reality and try to save our bets by only betting on real sport games.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Akbarkoe on May 20, 2024, 03:42:21 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
Corruption is not a strange thing in my opinion, because this happens in the leagues in my country, even if it is small, but for the international level it is really disappointing and we will anticipate them to be watched, if there is such corruption in the international league it will give a decrease in trust, especially to gamblers, this kind of thing has the possibility of matches being manipulated by the committee, I think there needs to be clear and strict rules for the organizers.

Especially in privacy, it will harm the gamblers if there is engineering and sponsors of fair gambling will close the match on boxing betting, but indeed if the prize and the match do not include many people it will be easy to manipulate, and a handful of people play cheats to get victory.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: KTChampions on May 20, 2024, 03:49:34 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Boxing is both a very money sport and a very subjective sport (where there is a lot of room for bias) so it is not surprising that it is riddled with corruption. By the way, I don’t think that things are much better in Olympic boxing; there were also many scandals when a boxer who actually lost the fight was named the winner. I don’t know the background to this conflict, but from the outside I can suggest that this is a fight between corrupt officials  ;D


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: ajiz138 on May 20, 2024, 03:51:26 PM
I don't pay much attention to boxing because it's not my favorite sport so I often skip betting on it, but with the failures due to corruption in this field, it's not unusual for me to see in some football cases that there is always news of the mafia behind to arrange matches.

Yes if there is news like this then many people will make bets because this has been arranged by the mafia behind it but I hope it can all be addressed properly because this is a big sport that is much favored.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: un_rank on May 20, 2024, 03:59:34 PM
It is not the worst but it is one which is easy to corrupt, and humans will try to corrupt anything that is corruptible. Boxing is better than it was 25 years ago, but still has a long way to go to achieve the level of professionalism that is needed for a sport.

For one, I hate how anyone can cross into boxing. You do not see that with any other sport out there. If there is no determined path of entry and emphasis is focused on profits, so if any celebrity with millions of followers wants to transition into it, they are given a pay per view match, and it is marketed as the biggest match of the year, while an average boxer gets at most 2 matches a year which barely gets any coverage.

Blocking the holes will be difficult, but it is doable.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: cabron on May 20, 2024, 04:13:11 PM

Even at the Olympic level, the corruption has already spawned?
In pro boxing, WBO rules them all but the WBC is making a lot of changes in the game when it comes to matching fighters, not so blatant in fixing fights but obviously when they decide to prevent fights from happening because they want someone else to step in and make another fight, its often due to whose getting bigger cuts. 

Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Marykeller on May 20, 2024, 04:28:02 PM
I believe, gradually all the corrupt practices in sports we don't know of will unfold with time.

Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 20, 2024, 04:36:31 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

We cannot pretend not to be aware of things like this and how it had been dealt with, from the way of developments and how sporting activities now have advanced, the rate of doing manipulation on gambling is being reduced to the least, because there are advanced technologies that can be use in making track to know the exact situation of events that transpired during any match, so i don't want to believe we have been having this same corruption as ever before.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Fiatless on May 20, 2024, 04:36:56 PM
You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
The article raised the issue of air pollution during boxing fights. It is usual to see boxing fans crowded in sporting centres to watch these boxing fights. I think the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is concerned with the health of the people. Corruption has always been part of sports but I suspect that it is very pronounced in individual competitions like boxing. These boxers can easily compromise their integrity if they are offered more money.

There is also a high rate of corruption and racism in the officiating circle. How on earth will Francis Ngannou lose to Tyson Fury? It was clear that the Cameroonian deserved to win the game but he was denied because of corruption and some level of sectionalism.      

I prefer to bet on games that cannot be easily manipulated. Football in reputable leagues is always my first choice.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: topbitcoin on May 20, 2024, 05:24:04 PM
Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: AbuBhakar on May 20, 2024, 05:45:09 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.


Questionable decision is always an issue on physical contact sports specially if there’s a bias referee or judge. This is happening even on NBA since the mature of call sometimes based on the referee interpretation of the action done when the call is not being challenged.

I’m surprised that Olympics boxing has this kind of issue even though this is an old sports.

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You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Can you provide other source that from a global trusted source?


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 20, 2024, 05:46:10 PM
Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.

There may be political factor also on why boxing is not included in Olympics. But that is sad news for boxers who are hoping to join this world event and that owed to corruption allegations, they can't participate in this historical event. Well, they can always fight inside the ring even without Olympics event, right? They have their own event anyway.

Boxers should remember, their career is not yet over even without Olympics event. This sports can withstand on its own feet, even without joining this worldwide sports event. They have their audience already, so they should not worry not getting the spot here.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Findingnemo on May 20, 2024, 05:54:22 PM
This reminds me of something when I was a teeny little I used to believe that WWE was real for a very long time and then only realized my whole childhood was a total lie or at least the one sport that I used to be in participate with siblings. :D

Sports became business a very long time ago, so I won't advise anyone to be a hardcore fanatics of any sport or individual because at the end of the day they get paid in millions and billions while you get nothing other than wasting your valuable time by arguing with someone who is the real goat in that sport.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: target on May 20, 2024, 05:57:41 PM
Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.

There may be political factor also on why boxing is not included in Olympics. But that is sad for boxers who are hoping to join this world event and that owed to corruption allegations, they can't participate in this historical event. Well, they can always fight inside the ring even without Olympics event, right? They have their own event anyway.

It's always politics since these organisations are no different from the mafia who always want their cut despite no involvement in certain boxing event. Sometimes they decide who is to win and who fights who because a young boxer is spilling them all. This is also happening in MMA, they even trade fighters now from other organisation.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: o48o on May 20, 2024, 05:58:30 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
Anything that has confirmed corruption in recent past i would avoid. But that doesn't mean others wouldn't have it as well. Especially 2 player match are easiest to fix, as it's less risky when there are less people involved. But yeah. This is definitely a bad sign and i wish there would be a real way to get off corruption that would be acceptable to all parties as boxing is one of my favourite sports. It's one of those sports that are easy to get into and easy to understand and relate with.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: qwertyup23 on May 20, 2024, 05:59:19 PM
I do believe that every sport has their respective indoor schemes and corruption happening behind the scenes.

Remember what happened to NBA where the Toronto Raptors player named Jontay Porter was banned for life by the NBA for alleged game-fixing and disclosing of confidential information to gamblers? According to this ARTICLE (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-bans-player-gambling-violations-163018068.html#:~:text=Jontay%20Porter%20of%20the%20Toronto,wagers%20on%20him%20to%20underperform.)1, he disclosed the health information of his own teammates to betters and he even betted against his own team.

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Jontay Porter of the Toronto Raptors was banned for passing confidential information to bettors, match fixing and betting on NBA games, the league announced on Wednesday.
Suspicious incidents included Porter claiming illness or disclosing his health information to bettors who then laid wagers on him to underperform.

Like what I mentioned, every sport has corruption and to combat this, the national sports federation of each country must take proactive steps in order to maintain the honesty and integrity of such sport. While this may be difficult to remedy in the grand scheme of things, I just hope that it will be fixed anytime soon.


1 https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-bans-player-gambling-violations-163018068.html


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Bananington on May 20, 2024, 06:34:43 PM
Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.
I noticed this too that recently, most of the boxing matches have been happening in Saudi Arabia.

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Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.
Some cases of corruption are not that the match is fixed but that the officials have been bought over, maybe two of the ringside officials out of the three, and one of the fighters will not know. The fight goes on as normal and as usual but the officials score the fight in favor of their candidates.

There was a lot of complain after Tyson Fury still won the fight against Francis Ngannou, it raised a lot of question and aroused suspicion of corruption because to almost everyone who saw the fight, Francis looked like the winner.

In the Fury against Usyk fight, one of the judges still scored Fury the winner, even when the winner of the fight was obvious. It is suspicious.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: darkangel11 on May 20, 2024, 06:59:14 PM
That recent fight between Fury and Usyk is a good example of why you can unexpectedly lose money because most bets were on Fury and the match was pretty eve, apart from that moment when the referee decided to count him while he was still standing. It's probably that thing that gave Usyk additional points and allowed him to gain point advantage. There was no need to count a fighter who's still standing. The referee should wait for him to fall and then count.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: CryptSafe on May 20, 2024, 07:03:37 PM
I am not a fan of boxing and I do not really give in to boxing games because it is not just what I would want to spend my time on. I prefer football games and racing to boxing.  Sometimes I just have this feelings that boxing games are funny to start with and here it has been exposed the shady deals going on within the boxing domain.

I would rather prefer spending my time watching table tennis match than boxing when it is obvious you already know how the boxing is going to end when some group of persons have already done their deeds to secure their interest with the fight.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Wexnident on May 20, 2024, 08:26:42 PM
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Hasn't corruption amongst referees always been a thing? At least, I believe every sport has some sort of internal corruption, whether it be among referees or players themselves. Well it's not the only sport to have seen some of most dumbest decisions that it made it so obvious that something was going on tbf, but it might be the most obvious one recently hence why the relations cut. I'd honestly avoid it if you're not that avid of a fan, I've only ever gambled with boxing back when Manny was still a boxer, at least on some of his last matches anyway.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Kavelj22 on May 20, 2024, 08:40:50 PM
I am not a fan of boxing and I do not really give in to boxing games because it is not just what I would want to spend my time on. I prefer football games and racing to boxing.  Sometimes I just have this feelings that boxing games are funny to start with and here it has been exposed the shady deals going on within the boxing domain.

I would rather prefer spending my time watching table tennis match than boxing when it is obvious you already know how the boxing is going to end when some group of persons have already done their deeds to secure their interest with the fight.

I still don't understand why boxing is called a "noble art" even though it is a very violent sport. The demand for this type of sport cannot be explained except because of the high bets on it by betting tycoons, barons and mafia men who are primarily concerned with the profit that can only be achieved by increasing the number of spectators and the presence of excitement and blood in every fight, until boxing has become And wrestling turns into a trade in the meat of boxers and wrestlers, who earn millions of dollars at the expense of their safety and lives. As for the boxers themselves, there are many victims, with differences in the types of their disabilities and injuries.

Personally, I am against all types of combat sports that could cause harm to players, and I do not encourage continuing to bet on them until we reach a time when these sports stop.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: serjent05 on May 20, 2024, 09:18:10 PM
In sports any games can be fixed or rigged, may it be boxing, basketball or MMA but no one can really tell except the people involved on that hidden agreement.  Any sports committee can be corrupted so it is not limited on the boxing alone.

As boxing is the worst to bet on, that single article can't justify that claim.  But regardless, the bookmaker makes it interesting and make it nullify the corruption or fixing and rigging of the game to affect the result of the bet since all options is given to the bettor and it is up to then to pick which would be the winning odds.


I am not a fan of boxing and I do not really give in to boxing games because it is not just what I would want to spend my time on. I prefer football games and racing to boxing.  Sometimes I just have this feelings that boxing games are funny to start with and here it has been exposed the shady deals going on within the boxing domain.

I would rather prefer spending my time watching table tennis match than boxing when it is obvious you already know how the boxing is going to end when some group of persons have already done their deeds to secure their interest with the fight.

Each person has their preference,rather than watching table tennis, I prefer watching Sepak Takraw, and I think even table tennis can't escape result fixing (rigging) because corruption can happen in any league.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Lanatsa on May 20, 2024, 09:34:20 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Well, this i believe is nothing new, even though it's the first time I am reading about this on this forum.
Personally, I feel corruption have somehow eaten deep into almost everything in this world, that it's beginning to appear like a normal thing, talk about the government, the people, organizations, what about churches and even charity organizations? You did be surprised at the level of corruptions going on in this places.

So, if churches and charity organizations can be swimming in corruption, how much more sports organizing bodies like mentioned boxing federation, the UFC and so on, I can bet my balls the even FIFA, the premier league and so on all run on corruption, why? Because alot of people are corruption themselves, and as long as this set of people are the ones heading the affires of this organizations, rest assure the entire organization is corrupt, but they won't let it out to the public.
Yes, i highly agree with this sentiment on which this is really that definitely true and on point. We are living on a world where corruption is already there on which not really just that limited to sport but also in other
industries or aspects as well on where there would really be those conditions on which money is really that getting involved or simply they are making a business. This is why for those people who had been getting used to it wont really be shocked if there would really be some news that in correlation to this because we've been long time living in a world where everything could really be that basing up into those rules that been set up with those people or org that sitting on the top on which its not really that shocking anymore on why we do have this.

There would be those other bodies that will surely be going against with this current system specially on boxing. If it turns out to be that corrupted then it would be impossible that they wont really be tending to fix up that image and this is something that might or might not be showing up some care and would continue to do. Speaking about making bets then its true that it would really be giving out that kind of
doubts on just simply basing up with those referees. Even into basketball or even on football sports on which you could really be able to notice out with those shit calls
and ref decisions as if they are really that against on something.  ;D


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Yogee on May 20, 2024, 09:34:54 PM
There are certainly fights where decisions were questionable and there were also cases where referees action looked shady as f*ck. The last one was the recently concluded Usyk vs Tyson bout where the ref stepped in on what could have been a KO or TKO win for Usyk. Many observer would see his action as saving Tyson's ass so he could recover.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: boyptc on May 20, 2024, 09:54:54 PM
Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: letteredhub on May 20, 2024, 10:37:51 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Well, this i believe is nothing new, even though it's the first time I am reading about this on this forum.
Personally, I feel corruption have somehow eaten deep into almost everything in this world, that it's beginning to appear like a normal thing, talk about the government, the people, organizations, what about churches and even charity organizations? You did be surprised at the level of corruptions going on in this places.

So, if churches and charity organizations can be swimming in corruption, how much more sports organizing bodies like mentioned boxing federation, the UFC and so on, I can bet my balls the even FIFA, the premier league and so on all run on corruption, why? Because alot of people are corruption themselves, and as long as this set of people are the ones heading the affires of this organizations, rest assure the entire organization is corrupt, but they won't let it out to the public.
In today's modern societies whatever event that money or interest is involved be rest assured that corruption will be found in there and that's why it doesn't get me surprised when you made mentioned of those social and religious organizations as been corrupt because this corruption of a thing is interwoven. In the area of sports, that of boxing compared to other sports is so obvious in the manner at which results are influence by conveners.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: joniboini on May 21, 2024, 02:44:34 AM
I think it is really hard to figure out which one is the worst just because their organization is exposed to being corrupted as fuck. My national football association is a mess and there are tons of scandals about referees, so I would place my bet on that one if I need to figure out which games are the worst to bet due to corrupt referees. But somebody else can say this or that sport is worse because they get exposed more to that particular sport. Maybe we can focus more on which kind of bet is less likely to be manipulated assuming every part of the game is rigged, or just don't bet at all. CMIIW.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: GreatArkansas on May 21, 2024, 02:57:15 AM
Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.
Exactly, any sport is prone to this kind of issue, even how popular the sport is. That's why there are some gamblers who are just betting on huge tournaments or for example in specific sports, the tournament or league is the most popular one, or some betting once the tournament is already in the championship or finals, just making sure they are safe for some match-fixing or any related issue.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Hirose UK on May 21, 2024, 04:23:53 AM
I think problems like this are very normal, not only in boxing but in several other types of sports, just try to look further and really trace the track record of every sport that exists, there are definitely lots of things like this to find.
But everything is about money, boxing or other combat sports are place for fighters and promoters to make money so if something like that happens it not surprising.
It just that if boxing becomes flawed sport and cannot be included in competitions such as the Olympics because of allegations of wrongdoing such as corruption, it might also trigger negative sentiment.
Everyone will think that everything is not clean but why is it that boxing is the only thing that matters questioned, but this kind of point of view is only for those who are really boxing lovers, for some people who are just for fun I think they don't will care.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: ralle14 on May 21, 2024, 04:43:40 AM
I've only bet on a couple of boxing matches so I can't tell how bad it is, but as someone who has tried betting on different sports, there are more unpredictable sports that you're better off avoiding despite the good officiating. Some sports can reach a level where it gets too competitive (home games provide no advantage, lineups don't matter, etc.), and then you'll eventually view every match as a toss-up compared to other sports.

Exactly, any sport is prone to this kind of issue, even how popular the sport is. That's why there are some gamblers who are just betting on huge tournaments or for example in specific sports, the tournament or league is the most popular one, or some betting once the tournament is already in the championship or finals, just making sure they are safe for some match-fixing or any related issue.
Yup. It's the easiest way to avoid any potential match-fixing, but suspicious calls and decisions can still occur.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: angrybirdy on May 21, 2024, 05:07:02 AM
Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.

Exactly! It really depends on where do you want to place your bet, Everything seems possible,sometimes our instincts or what we expect to win can be defeated depending on the flow of the game so we can't really be complacent even if we have memorized the tactics and strategy of the party we support.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: bitbollo on May 21, 2024, 05:39:31 AM
a sport in which the result can be evaluated by a referee and not by "objective events" is clear that it can be influenced by the evaluation of the single event.
I think that if you don't understand or aren't able to predict certain dynamics, it's useless to place bets.
for the bettor who wants to avoid risks... never follow such sports.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Hewlet on May 21, 2024, 05:54:16 AM
It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
no sporting body isn't corrupt!
What's now a major factor that has played a great role in reducing the originality in most sports expecially boxing is the influence of investors on these sports events. You can't enjoy most of the boxing again because to some extent, it's seams as though most of the matches are fixed matches and you see a glairing scenario where you're betting on an opponents you're convinced is the better fighter only to see an amateur knocking him out like a novice.

The better thing to do is to be strict on the boxing roles. If you want to sponsor a boxer or bet on the boxer, let it just end that way. Don't try a possible means of maneuvering the officials to willing the match to your favour.

Wrestling is the worse one that has lost it reputation and prestige and you can't even bet on them for anything positive that can come out of them. The interest and investors influence that's now almost inseparable from most of our sporting activities has played a more negative role in damning our sporting sectors to be honest.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Nrcewker on May 21, 2024, 05:58:05 AM
Yes if this much corruption is there in between the officials, then definitely in small events the players maybe forced to fix the games. In such a situation it will become really worse to bet on boxing events. Moreover it’s also noticed that the event is being removed from international competitions. So yes there is some serious issue going on. Hence it’s ideal to avoid boxing events for the time being. I have also noticed that many bookies have also started excluding boxing events for such nuisances also.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: retreat on May 21, 2024, 06:04:26 AM

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.


Indeed, from what I have heard, boxing is quite riddled with corruption and match fixing which makes boxing a sport with quite a bad image. However, even so, we cannot generalize that all boxing matches are bad, because there are definitely still honest boxing matches that are free from the usual bad things that happen, but maybe it's just difficult for us to see this. Hopefully the boxing sports committee can improve their management, so that this sport can become an even better sport in the future.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: pinggoki on May 21, 2024, 06:19:25 AM
I would say it's somewhat a bad sport to bet on given how bad the current boxing federation is and how corrupt they are, it's really difficult for me to say that it's not the worst sport to put your money in. It's still a 50/50 odds per matches at the most simple terms but with the bad match up and possibility of a fixed matches, there's a possibility that you're bet is for naught unless you've got an insider for that match that would help you out to decide which fighter would you put your money into.

Also, given the current popularity of mixed martial tournaments like UFC and ONE, it's definitely one of the bad sports that you can bet your money into.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: tsaroz on May 21, 2024, 06:26:13 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

All of sports is susceptible to corruption and match fixing. It's not an individual issue of boxing. Boxing at the moment is surely the most controversial at the moment. There had been unexpected and unpredicted results even when the viewers could easily see something is not right and the performance doesn't corelate to the results. Boxing without these some bad examples overall is a good sports to bet. The stats and performance do matter and almost all of the results are in either win or a loss. Other mixed martial arts like UFC are a bit different than boxing and are more popular watching as well betting on.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: davis196 on May 21, 2024, 06:45:05 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Corruption exists in every popular sport. Do you think that there's no corruption in football? If there's big money to be made, there will always be corruption. The bookies would never stop accepting bets for a certain sport, even if there are serious allegations against that particular sports federation or certain clubs and players. I totally do not care about the Olympics anymore. It doesn't matter if boxing is going to be removed from the Olympics. The Olympics are also filled with corruption and doping scandals. Almost every sport has been turned into a dirty business.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: alani123 on May 21, 2024, 06:50:09 AM
Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
I'm not sure, whether the sport of boxing really makes some fans angry about the behavior of promoters and judges, that's some of the facts we see, boxing has always been synonymous with corrupt mafias, your question reminds me of something said by: @John McGlothlin.

Facts that happened: How did boxing become so corrupt so that there are several "champions" at each weight class who never fight each other? (https://www.quora.com/How-did-boxing-become-so-corrupt-so-that-there-are-several-champions-at-each-weight-class-who-never-fight-each-other)

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The multi-champion fiasco came about as a result of:

• multiple sanctioning bodies who charge multiple sanctioning fees for multiple champions;
• promoters allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies, and only fighting particular opponents in order to have more “title” fights, and make more money than they could with a single champion.
• TV providers allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies and promoters

But as far as I know, not all boxing sports can be called corrupt and bad sports like we imagine, not all boxing sauces are spicy, there are still many sauces that have a sweet taste.
It's interesting, many non-team sports fall under the same fate but not many are like boxing. Having handfuls of high level organizations and so many "champions" that don't even know each other. In the process boxing became more of a show than a sport sadly. Olympic boxers often had no notoriety and almost nobody knew about them in spit of them having the best sportsmanship and skill.

Now to their detriment because of how corrupt the rest of the sport is they may lose their spot as athletes on the Olympics because of everyone else's corruption. And these things have been going on for ages in boxing. It just makes me wonder what would make anyone to bet on such matches especially given the history of corruption that is so long standing.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 21, 2024, 06:59:56 AM
I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.
Wrestling specially WWF is for entertainment only meaning they are scripted so  the wrestler is less risky because they are prone in accident and breaking bones , so this is different from Boxing where people and fans trying to believe that all the fight is legit but like what OPsays? there is corruption and I believe game fixing happening inside .
for this we should prevent betting for this sports first while they are reorganizing and fixing this issue for better future of boxing world.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: EluguHcman on May 21, 2024, 07:05:59 AM
All by myself, I am not too conversation to gambling on boxing. It is likely like the WWE were obviously it seems scripted such a fix match programs, although UFC has seemed far away to be compared with it because there are lot of more serious individuals who do not believe on those meme entertainment but much more concerned and Interested on the sport games.

One thing is sure that every sectors of gaming or sport activities is being corrupted including the football games most of us a reliable on for bets.
You can imagine how matches are fixed and the football coordinators would never let the public know about it.
I guess that is also a view of corruption because it is a clear view that the fix matches are trade by barter where is targeted to benefit the two teams while the Interests of the fans are not considered.
And I guess when you bet on a potential winning team on such fix match you should be expecting a reverse that the unexpected team will take the lead.

While I do not mean to discourage anyone gambler of discriminating where they are conversant and reliable on betting, let me remind us that with all being said, gambling remains a game of luck.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Assface16678 on May 21, 2024, 07:15:49 AM
That's why I don't bet on boxing because, over the years I've been watching boxing, I never once bet on it because sometimes the referees are unfair and calling foul calls, and also because I don't really enjoy watching boxing, so yeah, I think boxing is the least popular betting sport for me. I know maybe some here really do bet on boxing, and it's also a good choice because the choices are only 50/50, which is more practical, but the thing is, do boxing games sometimes have a fixed match? especially the less popular boxers? I noticed it; that's why I get more eager not to gamble on it, and I also stop watching boxing because there are not many exciting boxers out there, or am I just outdated or what?

It's not the "worst," just the least popular sports betting, I guess, because I noticed in the betting sites and applications I used that only a few people were betting in boxing.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: irhact on May 21, 2024, 07:24:41 AM
I would say it's somewhat a bad sport to bet on given how bad the current boxing federation is and how corrupt they are, it's really difficult for me to say that it's not the worst sport to put your money in. It's still a 50/50 odds per matches at the most simple terms but with the bad match up and possibility of a fixed matches, there's a possibility that you're bet is for naught unless you've got an insider for that match that would help you out to decide which fighter would you put your money into.

I love to bet more on football, tennis and basketball when it comes to sporting activities I love to watch boxing matches cause of my love for boxers like AJ and the current champion Usky, though I've betted on AJ once in the match that went viral between him and Francis, I only did that due to my love for him as a fan. Even if I was more into boxing there are some few boxers I'll only stake my money on.

 But on hearing this and how corrupt the boxing federation have gotten I don't think I'll want to place a bet on anyone, not even AJ I'll rather continue to focus more on football and other sports I got interest on but currently several leagues have ended so I think I'll focus on basketball and tennis, the odds are still very okay to bet on I just have to pick about 4 to 5 games then stake high like I normally do for football.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on May 21, 2024, 08:21:39 AM
You really have to be someone who likes boxing to place bet on boxing, this game has some strict rules but is very entertaining if you like boxing, I do not like placing bets on boxing but I love watching the actions, but isn't boxing a game to consider fixed?

For many, boxing could be the worst sport of all to place bets on, I can see why but there are few boxing fans that do nothing else than gambling on boxers, sometimes there was some past fights that ends with unfair result and they are too complicated to judge.

It is always left for the referee or the judge to choose a winner, in this case I don't always like it, some fights have no winner and some are miscalculated and unfair but all in all, you get what you want, to be entertained, that's why you must be a responsible gambler to yourself.

Risk only what you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Kelvinid on May 21, 2024, 08:33:52 AM
It was not only in boxing that corruption appears, it is also in other sports, they are not just too bulgar to see where we can tell that they are doing it now.
To the question if it is still worth to bet? Well, I still consider it worthy unless the fight is already manipulated. For now, it was still a good sport for me but not sure in the future if corruption and manipulation will at worse.

Besides, I don't bet just for money and winning opportunities but I bet in support of my favorite boxer. And since I am a sports lover, I don't mind if there is corruption inside as I enjoy watching the fight.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Slow death on May 21, 2024, 09:56:19 AM
It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

I haven't been betting on boxing and I haven't been betting on the UFC either, but in my opinion, despite there being corruption, still when it comes to fights, in most cases I see the winners as being fair winners, this is because there are many people who are following the fights and the fighters to the point of being able to identify in a fight when it was fair or when there was a fair winner, so in my opinion it is difficult for most big fights to be manipulated or corrupted. Maybe there could be cases where boxi's top managers receive money from some fight event promoter to schedule fights in their country, maybe that could happen. but I highly doubt that there is corruption in the winners of boxing matches. Now in the case of the UFC, there is probably a greater chance of there being manipulation or corruption in the newcomers' fights, but I highly doubt that there will be many cases

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Well, this i believe is nothing new, even though it's the first time I am reading about this on this forum.
Personally, I feel corruption have somehow eaten deep into almost everything in this world, that it's beginning to appear like a normal thing, talk about the government, the people, organizations, what about churches and even charity organizations? You did be surprised at the level of corruptions going on in this places.

So, if churches and charity organizations can be swimming in corruption, how much more sports organizing bodies like mentioned boxing federation, the UFC and so on, I can bet my balls the even FIFA, the premier league and so on all run on corruption, why? Because alot of people are corruption themselves, and as long as this set of people are the ones heading the affires of this organizations, rest assure the entire organization is corrupt, but they won't let it out to the public.

In the case of FIFA, corruption is common

2015 FIFA corruption scandal (https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal)


Investigations into international soccer organization FIFA uncover extensive bribery and kickbacks among officials around the world.

source: https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/video/fifa-kickbacks-world-cup-corruption

Football corruption and the remarkable road to Qatar’s World Cup

source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/08/football-corruption-and-the-remarkable-road-to-qatar-world-cup



Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Natalim on May 21, 2024, 10:29:02 AM
Betting is different from just being a pure sports fan. If you're just a fan and don't like gambling, you might criticize the sport. However, when it comes to betting, we only bet if we believe we are knowledgeable about the sport we choose, as this increases our winning chances.

Actually, all sports have their critics. Some people believe that certain sports are rigged, including boxing, but not only boxing because even basketball, tennis, and soccer (football) have their critics. At the end of the day, it's up to us to decide which sport we will bet on.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: maydna on May 21, 2024, 10:31:02 AM
Corruptions can happens to anything, including boxing because human can gets tempts with something that they like. We will not knows the truth until someone or some people report that corruptions or publish the corruption happens to that federation. If there are no proves about the corruption, people will not pay attention to that and the match will still running. But if some people can proves that the corruption happens to that federation and that is the truth, boxing can really gets off schedule from the Olympics. We can just waits for the next announcement and hopefully, boxing can still on the lists.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Hispo on May 21, 2024, 10:32:00 AM
Well. Thanks for sharing this news... I had no idea there was such dramatic issues going on and unresolved within the Olympics and the boxing federation. Certainly, this is enough for me to avoid betting of boxing when I decide to go back onto betting on sports.
In my opinion, the problem comes from the fact Boxing may be the easiest sport to mess with and fix, when comes to results. It only takes to convince one single person to fall down at an specific step of the fight, the other boxer does not even need to be aware the fight is being fixed.

As point of comparison or contrast, in order for someone to influence on a football match, they would need to convince several people within one of the teams to fix the match.

Anyways... Keeping an eye on this, because it would be certainly scandalous if We ended up not seeing boxing in the next Olympic Games, it could easily erode the trust people have on the sport in general.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: avp2306 on May 21, 2024, 10:54:12 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Even those situation exist but for sure it will not happen on big fights. So if you want to place your bets on boxing then make sure that you only do it on bigger events where a lot of people are watching and don't bet on undercards since provably this fix matches would provably happen since there maybe less people are interested to see the whole details of the fight since what they are waiting for is the main event.

But also still thanks for sharing that link since there would be lots of people would ever recognize that fix matches still possible to happen on boxing. That's why we should always choose the best and don't  bet randomly on any open fights that we see.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: passwordnow on May 21, 2024, 11:03:50 AM
Corruptions can happens to anything, including boxing because human can gets tempts with something that they like. We will not knows the truth until someone or some people report that corruptions or publish the corruption happens to that federation.
But the problem with the whistleblower, if it tends to be true then the people that are involved especially the officials and the committee are going to feed him with vast money. You know those situations that when someone is being bribed with money or else they'd get some threat not just for their lives but for their families too.

If there are no proves about the corruption, people will not pay attention to that and the match will still running. But if some people can proves that the corruption happens to that federation and that is the truth, boxing can really gets off schedule from the Olympics. We can just waits for the next announcement and hopefully, boxing can still on the lists.
While there are other bodies and third parties that are getting involved and trying to solve these problems of politics and corruption to an authority of sports agencies and federations. There were people that have been punished by their wrongdoings. I still believe in justice but you know that when the names involved are big in the industry, they're like the untouchables and it means business for them and they are not going to allow someone to tarnish their reputation and names. But as you've mentioned Olympics, I believe that there's still quite some controversy on it but the biggest one could be from the qualifying there from different sports organizations globally.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: moneystery on May 21, 2024, 11:26:00 AM
the problem of dishonesty within the organization is not only a problem for the boxing organization, but other sports organizations also experience the same problem, but the boxing organization may already be at an alarming level because of the amount of cheating there. this problem should be of special concern to boxing organizations, because this will directly affect the image of the sport of boxing and in the future it will make people view this sport in a bad light. internal resolution of the organization or even carrying out a major overhaul within the organization could be a solution taken by boxing organizations to make their organization healthy again.


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: cabron on May 21, 2024, 11:31:30 AM
Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.
I noticed this too that recently, most of the boxing matches have been happening in Saudi Arabia.

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Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.
Some cases of corruption are not that the match is fixed but that the officials have been bought over, maybe two of the ringside officials out of the three, and one of the fighters will not know. The fight goes on as normal and as usual but the officials score the fight in favor of their candidates.

There was a lot of complain after Tyson Fury still won the fight against Francis Ngannou, it raised a lot of question and aroused suspicion of corruption because to almost everyone who saw the fight, Francis looked like the winner.

In the Fury against Usyk fight, one of the judges still scored Fury the winner, even when the winner of the fight was obvious. It is suspicious.

To make a fight happen, there is the need to pay for the promotion and the fee to these boxers. Often, the pay goes by the millions because organizations are taking a percentage of the money.  The Saudis can spend millions for the event to be held in their country and on the global scene, you can observe they are running the show. You can already tell, they are the richest in the world.

Not sure why Fury is favored every time but I'm guessing the people behind it want him to win and most probably the rich are rooting for him. This time he lost and basically, the promotions robbed the Saudis.  ;D



Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Peanutswar on May 21, 2024, 11:42:58 AM
Not only in boxing but even in other sports too that has a large reward, and title because of course everyone wants to achieve these titles and get honourable mentions and write their names or teams in the list of the history reason why there's a lot of people doing under the table transactions just to win their favourite players. Still, there's a is fair fight but of course, you can see those suspicious moves or acts by the players or officials once the game starts, like fail-to-call, no-count hit and etc.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: coin-investor on May 21, 2024, 11:47:55 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

I'd also been reading this, and the IBF is trying to resolve the issue since it came up; boxing has been an important part of the Olympics since 1904
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Boxing was one of the sports contested at the Ancient Olympic Games in Greece. It first appeared on the modern Olympic program in 1904 at the third edition of the Games. It has been contested at every Olympics since then with the exception of 1912
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Boxing 101: Olympic history, records and results (https://www.nbcolympics.com/news/boxing-101-olympic-history-records-and-results)
and there are a lot of countries participating in this event because of the popularity, so many great boxers like Ali and Foreman competed and won gold in the Olympics, also our country has a lot of entries in the boxing category, and they are potential gold medalists so we hope they can resolve the issue.

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It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
There's news of corruption in amateur organizations, but when it comes to the professional league, the organizations and promoters are trying to be transparent because it's a multibillion industry that they can't afford to lose.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Rockstarguy on May 21, 2024, 01:03:40 PM
It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Boxing used to be a game that is so interesting before but right now from what have been happening it seems the judgement from boxing is not fair and it will be risky to use money to stake match in boxing because it us being compromise now in one way or the other. Football is the best sport to bet games because it is transparent. When a team loses in football it is clear that every can see where the mistake came from that made a team to lose. Their is a need for amendments to be done just to be transparent the way it used to before now because if it continues like this people won't take gambling serious again.  I could remember one the fight of Anthony Joshua against Francis, some people were not okay with outcome of the fight, thinking otherwise.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: danherbias07 on May 21, 2024, 01:43:18 PM
There are boxers who really want to win and there are also MMA fighters that want to be a champion. So, I guess we could only rely on that. Even with the corrupted boxing associations.
I mean, we could see the real emotions of each fighter whenever they win a championship or win a game.
If it's professional boxing, I don't doubt it. But when it comes to fights that are set up by streamers and popular celebrities, I would not dare bet on those. Jake Paul for example. I have not yet bet for him or his opponent because I don't think it's worth it. It's like the WWE, you know it's scripted so I don't see any fun in that although they say it's great entertainment too. Well, that's their opinion. When it comes to betting, I'd bet for title matches or when they are fighting for their rankings.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Frankolala on May 21, 2024, 01:51:22 PM
It is easy for corruption and match fixing to happen in gambling than in football. I have never thought of this before because I feel that boxing is free from corruption. Just as said by other members, I don't like betting on boxing, but I love to watch the match.

Football is my favorite sport which I always bet on and basketball sometimes. This is because I love these two sports more than boxing and the probability of match fixing on big club matches is very low.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: bettercrypto on May 21, 2024, 02:18:15 PM
I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

The majority of gamblers prefer the sport without physical harm or attack. Although there are definitely those who bet on boxing, UFC, and kickboxing but not at the casino to bet, right?


Title: Re: Os boxing the worst sport to get on?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on May 21, 2024, 02:32:48 PM
I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.
Wrestling specially WWF is for entertainment only meaning they are scripted so  the wrestler is less risky because they are prone in accident and breaking bones , so this is different from Boxing where people and fans trying to believe that all the fight is legit but like what OPsays? there is corruption and I believe game fixing happening inside .
for this we should prevent betting for this sports first while they are reorganizing and fixing this issue for better future of boxing world.
Both of them are easily fixed although boxing is not scripted like wrestling but there also exist alot of ringing in boxing and to some extent it's far from being 100% real and not to be in the categories of real time games so it outcome when bet on is greatly volitile and only the house who are part of the game ringing will win all the time.


That is why it is important not to rely so much on your own analysis and bets since anything can happen along the line without you having to contribute Any form in determining the outcome of the game.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2024, 03:13:07 PM
Football is the best sport to bet games because it is transparent. When a team loses in football it is clear that every can see where the mistake came from that made a team to lose.
Haven't you see referee sometime give a team advantage over other team? cheating and manipulation in football is still happen till now. In terms of transparency, boxing is also transparent, we can count, judge and know who win if the boxer can KO'ed his opponent.

In order to reduce cheating and manipulation, you need to choose sports that didn't have any referees or someone who can control the game. F1 and MotoGP are the example of sports without referees.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: alani123 on May 21, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

The majority of gamblers prefer the sport without physical harm or attack. Although there are definitely those who bet on boxing, UFC, and kickboxing but not at the casino to bet, right?
Are you sure you've been bettin on crypto for a while?  ;D Because boxing promotions and UFC are advertised a lot on here as well and on many crypto betting sites as well. Stake.com and all major crypto betting websites do special promotions whenever there's a big fighting promotion too and will even make it a major part of their website while it's going on. For example every time I log in to stake.com I see UFC front and center.

Even the entire banner permanently representing the entire sports section of the website features 4 athletes, 3 of which are part of fighting sports:

https://i.ibb.co/Q9sT5hp/image.png

I think that if stake does this as one of the biggest crypto casinos they must know a thing or two. Probably people are spending a lot betting on fighting sports. I don't know if from the player's part it's a wise decision to bet on such sports that have so many accusations of rigging etc.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: target on May 21, 2024, 05:29:41 PM
I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

The majority of gamblers prefer the sport without physical harm or attack. Although there are definitely those who bet on boxing, UFC, and kickboxing but not at the casino to bet, right?
Are you sure you've been bettin on crypto for a while?  ;D Because boxing promotions and UFC are advertised a lot on here as well and on many crypto betting sites as well. Stake.com and all major crypto betting websites do special promotions whenever there's a big fighting promotion too and will even make it a major part of their website while it's going on. For example every time I log in to stake.com I see UFC front and center.

Even the entire banner permanently representing the entire sports section of the website features 4 athletes, 3 of which are part of fighting sports:

https://i.ibb.co/Q9sT5hp/image.png

I think that if stake does this as one of the biggest crypto casinos they must know a thing or two. Probably people are spending a lot betting on fighting sports. I don't know if from the player's part it's a wise decision to bet on such sports that have so many accusations of rigging etc.

There are only 2 threads about UFC/MMA, but even so, it's very noticeable because it surfaces every day to the top. But boxing threads in the gambling section is a lot in the forum. If he visits the gambling section, I think he would have seen those threads too.

In UFC, its only Dana that controls the athletes so he knows which one should be the champ and which can retire soon. If that ain't a one-man maffia himself, I don't know what is.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: OgNasty on May 21, 2024, 06:27:37 PM
I guess it depends on what you mean by the worst sport to bet on.  I personally wouldn't agree with that because boxing is a lot of fun to bet on.  The fights aren't incredibly long so it isn't difficult to sit through the entire thing, plus there's nothing like watching someone get knocked out while earning you a bunch of money.  I think given the thousands of years of gladiators and human history, boxing or MMA would be the most normalized for of gambling.  It's practically programmed into our DNA at this point to see two people fighting and want to pick out a winner in advance.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: 0t3p0t on May 21, 2024, 06:43:24 PM
The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ  and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Sunderland on May 21, 2024, 07:23:36 PM
The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ  and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.
Fixed matches happen in all sports, but in boxing it often happen than the other sports because of some reasons,
The main thing is money, unknown boxers will not get a decent payment and many of them experience a financial issue after retiring as boxers.
Also to rank up, looking for a suitable opponent, sponsors, etc is also not easy for a boxer who doesnt have money or connections, like it or not, they have to accept a match fixing offer for the sake of their careers and finances.
Nowdays, it is better to bet on MMA than boxing, or only bet on boxing when there is a big match even though it is not a guarantee that the match will be fair.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: wheelz1200 on May 21, 2024, 07:43:47 PM
There's probably tons of this going on but I love betting on boxing.  If you are a real fan and watch all the matches I think it's relatively easier to bet on than some other sports that are team sport related.  It's hard trying to figure out a whole team will play.  But one guy especially with different styles you can Guage who should win, or who will likely score a knock out etc.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Mr.suevie on May 21, 2024, 07:49:16 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
For me I have this mentality which I believe that every sports actually have some corruption even the most famous which I believe it's soccer is filled with lots of corruption so it's normal thing for me to hear that boxing also have their own corruption beside it was also just last year that they spotted and actually stopped the corruption scandal on one of the South America country leagues @ Brazil corruption  (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/matchfixing-scandal-casts-dark-shadow-over-brazilian-football/a-65718953)

Well for boxing I don't really know how deep this is but wrestling is one of the sports which I hate most and I doubt any sport bookie offers selection to this type of sports especially the WWE shit show they do there.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: rachael9385 on May 21, 2024, 08:19:42 PM
There are boxers who really want to win and there are also MMA fighters that want to be a champion. So, I guess we could only rely on that. Even with the corrupted boxing associations.
I mean, we could see the real emotions of each fighter whenever they win a championship or win a game.
If it's professional boxing, I don't doubt it. But when it comes to fights that are set up by streamers and popular celebrities, I would not dare bet on those. Jake Paul for example. I have not yet bet for him or his opponent because I don't think it's worth it. It's like the WWE, you know it's scripted so I don't see any fun in that although they say it's great entertainment too. Well, that's their opinion. When it comes to betting, I'd bet for title matches or when they are fighting for their rankings.
From my opinion, I guess the boxing games are like the most dangerous games in the gamble industry because it's about physical strengths and skills all together, but this link shows me that the boxing games are not the most dangerous in the world. (https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/dangerous-sports-in-the-world/) Any game that has to do with strength us dangerous because some kind of incidents can occur, mostly in the car rasing games. But I have a doubt that this type of games are luck based games  ??? (Might be though), because you have to know those that's strong enough to withstand the opponents then bet on the strongest. Though sometimes things happen and the person who more strong than his opponent my lose.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: shivansps on May 21, 2024, 08:53:26 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

A very interesting idea, by the way. What I mean is that boxing is not the easiest sport to bet on. Even if we do not take corruption into account.
Let me explain what I mean. For example, last weekend the Usik-Fury fight took place. This is a very difficult fight for the judges. There could be a victory for any of the fighters. Several rounds could be given in one direction or the other. That is, I would not be surprised by a draw or a Fury victory. Therefore, it is very difficult to bet on such matches. If I had bet on Fury in that match, I would have been upset with the result. For example, in football or basketball everything is much more obvious, there are two teams, there is the result of their games. In boxing, everything is not so simple. There are two opponents, and there are also 3 more judges, and when it turns out to be an equal fight, the result may not be predictable


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 21, 2024, 09:01:40 PM
There's probably tons of this going on but I love betting on boxing.  If you are a real fan and watch all the matches I think it's relatively easier to bet on than some other sports that are team sport related.  It's hard trying to figure out a whole team will play.  But one guy especially with different styles you can Guage who should win, or who will likely score a knock out etc.

I can somehow agree with you on this thought. If you keep following these boxers, you will have idea on their weaknesses/strengths inside the ring. So when its time for the match, you have good feeling on who will possibly win and how. Since you are comparing only 2 athletes, you can quite easily compare them not only their historical performance but their boxing style and other potential edges when they are inside the ring.

The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ  and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.

You have a point on this as there were some fights who were rumoured to be rigged. But no one can prove such arrangement. Since we are only talking about 2 athletes here, it may be easier for the promoters to have an agreement regarding the results of the fight. However, this arrangement usually involved large amount of money and fans will have a hint as they can see the performance inside the ring. Well, no one will admit such agreement to the public.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: uneng on May 21, 2024, 09:22:59 PM
It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC?
Corruption is everywhere and you can find related news regards every other sports we can also bet on. It's not an exclusivity of boxing category, unfortunatelly. It would be so much easier if we could simply consider one sport to be cursed for all the corruption, while we would be free of risks when betting on other available sports around... The fact is that nowadays nobody is safe from betting on a fixed match. Have you seen the accusations made recently inside soccer industry as well?

I believe what we can do in order to avoid being cheated is to prefer betting on reputable and main leagues of a determined sport. And even in this case you shouldn't get surprised at all if you find later the games (of part of them) were fixed. Corruption is part of the human nature since the primordial times of disobedience done by the man against God, although it seems to have been heavily inflated these days in comparison to previous periods of time.

And even those who complain about it wouldn't think twice before executing the same shady acts if they had the opportunity to do so in order to benefit themselves...


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: skarais on May 21, 2024, 09:28:38 PM
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Haven't you see referee sometime give a team advantage over other team? cheating and manipulation in football is still happen till now. In terms of transparency, boxing is also transparent, we can count, judge and know who win if the boxer can KO'ed his opponent.

In order to reduce cheating and manipulation, you need to choose sports that didn't have any referees or someone who can control the game. F1 and MotoGP are the example of sports without referees.
You are right about that, but every gambler has their own interests about what they want to bet on. Betting on boxing may be popular among many gamblers, but personally I don't really like it. I tend to like football which makes me happy when I watch it, after all football is a sport that is my hobby.

MotoGP and F1 might be good for those who don't expect cheating, but then again it's not my thing. Likewise with other users, they can choose based on what they can enjoy regardless of any sport including boxing, football or racing.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Nwada001 on May 21, 2024, 10:04:49 PM
It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
Boxing is very corrupt; in fact, I'm among the many who believe that most of the matches are fixed fights and staged, which is all planned for one person to win the game, and those who make bets in favour of someone who is already planned to lose happen to lose their money all the time. 
 
I can't even recall if I have ever placed a bet on boxing before; maybe I might have, which I can't recall, but during my recent betting session, boxing was the last on my list to even visit. I would rather risk the money on plinko and see if it drains out, watching my luck to decide my faith, than placing a bet on some match whose outcome has already been decided.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: notblox1 on May 21, 2024, 10:29:44 PM
Betting on boxing and other combat sports like MMA is better than in other sports like football because you dont have so much draw results.
But the way boxing judges are working with points is corrupt and it is very hard to get honest decision from all three refs.
I watched Fury vs Usyk few days ago and this should be clean win for Usyk, not win by split decision.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Yatsan on May 21, 2024, 10:46:39 PM
What are our options? Not to tolerate but aren't fixed matches evident to all sports in gambling? We saw or hear about it with basketball, football, billiards, and the others. To clear things, not all matches are rigged; there are just some and unfortunately it will forever be part of the game. If you don't want fixed matches then better to engage with pure luck based gambling games but winning would be harder as you rely on your luck alone (just based on my perspective). Therefore, I'd probably stick with sports gambling 'coz aside from that's what I enjoy playing, it gives me a better edge to win through analysis and background checking of the players and teams on the match up.

I'm quite having a winning streak with my bets on boxing matches and that is probably the reason why I don't mind these instances. There are options to take as I've mentioned if things won't be good in sportsbetting.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: boyptc on May 21, 2024, 11:17:00 PM
Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.
Exactly, any sport is prone to this kind of issue, even how popular the sport is. That's why there are some gamblers who are just betting on huge tournaments or for example in specific sports, the tournament or league is the most popular one, or some betting once the tournament is already in the championship or finals, just making sure they are safe for some match-fixing or any related issue.
Yes, the bigger ones are unlikely to have this kind of issue but they can never be safe from so called "mafia".

Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.

Exactly! It really depends on where do you want to place your bet, Everything seems possible,sometimes our instincts or what we expect to win can be defeated depending on the flow of the game so we can't really be complacent even if we have memorized the tactics and strategy of the party we support.
So as a bettor, you know what are the potential issues that a certain match can be with. But if you are mostly following the professional scene, you will not need that much effort with it.

But as I've said, they are unlikely to be dealt with such but you'll never know.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 22, 2024, 05:47:54 AM
There is definitely a lot of corruption in boxing. This doesn’t make it the worst sport to bet on, it’s actually the opposite because you can usually predict an outcome based on who generates the most revenue for the sanctioning organizations, boxing commissions and promoters.

It is very rare for a superstar fighter like Canelo to get screwed by a decision. It’s always the opposite and Canelo you can guarantee that Canelo will win a close decision that could have gone either way. Fighters like Canelo and Gervonta Davis also have the luxury of picking their opponents so that they will fight somebody who is easy to beat and they will look good against. Even when there are more deserving fighters that should be their opponent, they will sidestep them without facing repercussions like having their belts stripped.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Dave1 on May 22, 2024, 11:52:47 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

I have to disagree though, boxing like any other sports is also full of corrupt organizations and I do agree that it has history of biased decisions in the past. But I doubt that boxing fans are totally going to ignore and chooses other sports to bet on.

Just like in the recent fight of Usyk vs Fury, the odds are very close, although in the fight night, it was Fury who goes as a slight favorite. Nevertheless, Usyk won in that fight as a underdog and by decision. The decision win is like 4.x odds so that is good enough for us to bet and win big despite if there is a corruption or not.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: btc_angela on May 22, 2024, 12:00:27 PM
You just have to pick who is the more popular boxer, and of course there are upsets, but most of the time the odd makers favored or pick the correct winner. I do agree, there are corruption here. Who wouldn't forget how the South Koreans screw up Roy Jones Jr in the Olympics?

And now we have the Sulaiman's of the WBC as corrupt as any governing body in any sports.

But still though, there are a lot of boxing fans here, with the amount of threads being open for every fight and you can see that there are a lot of knowledgeable members here as far as boxers and can predict the outcome of the fight.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: summonerrk on May 22, 2024, 12:01:54 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

I think the worst kind of sport you can bet on in batting is esports. There, the confrontation changes so quickly that the slightest actions of the players lead to a change in forces on the battlefield.
That's probably why there are so many rumors that match-fixing is very common there.

I've watched a lot of interviews about what insider information is that even players of the highest ranks often lose on purpose, as they bet on their team's defeat.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: nimogsm on May 22, 2024, 03:34:38 PM
There is definitely a lot of corruption in boxing. This doesn’t make it the worst sport to bet on, it’s actually the opposite because you can usually predict an outcome based on who generates the most revenue for the sanctioning organizations, boxing commissions and promoters.

It is very rare for a superstar fighter like Canelo to get screwed by a decision. It’s always the opposite and Canelo you can guarantee that Canelo will win a close decision that could have gone either way. Fighters like Canelo and Gervonta Davis also have the luxury of picking their opponents so that they will fight somebody who is easy to beat and they will look good against. Even when there are more deserving fighters that should be their opponent, they will sidestep them without facing repercussions like having their belts stripped.
For example, I follow such boxers as Usyk and Lomachanko and both they and their rivals were not seen in corruption and I have not seen anything like this in the press.Perhaps this is the case in semi-professional leagues, but in the professional league it is definitely not because the reputation is definitely worth more expensive. And take the last fights of these athletes and what a stir the bookmakers had.Boxing is a great sport for betting and a great opportunity to make money on your favorite.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 22, 2024, 03:55:01 PM
Each game has its own share of corruption. You cannot stop this from happening because the root causes are so deeply ingrained in the culture and how the games have developed over time. Advertisement companies, Merchandise, TV channels hosting the shows and people who are involved with the games have always invested their money and have been looking out for their own benefits.

The soccer/tennis/cricket councils and such are having a lot of bribery which we never actually get to know of till years have passed away.

Not sure if these things influence people's betting choices on boxing games.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: xLays on May 22, 2024, 07:29:19 PM
^^In short all of this sport can be rigged. Not just boxing that can sometimes be manipulated in many ways, like for example match fixing where the outcome is predetermined or point shaving where judge, referee or players alter the score to benefit some bets. Referees might also make biased calls if he got some money to make it call. But while these sports issues exist, I think most professional sports have strict rules and oversight to prevent and address this manipulation.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Renampun on May 22, 2024, 07:36:34 PM
The thing that I don't really like about betting on boxing is that I can find out which players have a big winning percentage, in fact quite a lot of fighters lose on points, I still really remember the first time I placed a bet on boxing, it was my first loss in betting. After that, I never bet on boxing again because I was also quite confused about the rules and there were even rumors that referees were cheating.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: blockman on May 22, 2024, 07:37:06 PM
^^In short all of this sport can be rigged. Not just boxing that can sometimes be manipulated in many ways, like for example match fixing where the outcome is predetermined or point shaving where judge, referee or players alter the score to benefit some bets. Referees might also make biased calls if he got some money to make it call.
In most of them, the rigging part is always been possible. Not just from the referees but also in trades, and in any other part of any sport.

But while these sports issues exist, I think most professional sports have strict rules and oversight to prevent and address this manipulation.
We don't know but let's say that most of them are strict but there can be some loopholes that we don't know. Or we should just say and settle that they don't rig at all because they're professional and huge amount of money is there. There is a possibility but very tiny.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: swogerino on May 22, 2024, 07:47:06 PM
Betting on sports involving human combat is,in my view,among the riskiest type of sports betting.The reason behind this assertion is straightforward and that is,the potential for manipulation is very high.It's not impossible for someone with significant resources like a reputable casino to impact the outcome by corrupting the favored participant to take a dive,or by orchestrating circumstances favoring the underdog,especially if the betting trends heavily favor one side,either favorite or underdog.

The inherent unpredictability of human behavior further complicates matters.Unlike in more regulated sports where factors like form,strategy,and statistics play a more pronounced role, the element of human variability introduces a level of uncertainty that is difficult to quantify.One can question if some of the fighters have taken adequate training,physical and mental I am talking about and they have not gotten to drink alcohol which greatly weakens their performance,something that can be impacted as I said by the reputable casino with huge funds at their disposal.



Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: boltz on May 22, 2024, 07:50:24 PM
In my opinion every sport that doesn't have a cashout option is awful to bet and boxing is in this category because I've had a small bet on Fury this weekend and I didn't have cashout option where his odds were low but I had no idea boxing will be this way so I will never bet again. So yea , boxing is awful to bet because of this non cashout option but this is just my own opinion.  :)


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Moreno233 on May 22, 2024, 08:13:27 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.
What they say about corruption in boxing is mostly true because often time we see funny decisions by the judges. This post (https://punchng.com/nbbofc-receives-idowus-ubo-belt-after-controversial-ghana-bout/) is a good example of poor judgement in boxing. This incident was so obvious that the judges received many backlashes that prompted their decision to be reversed. See below statement from the article about what transpired. The controversy surrounding this incident was a major trend in twitter for days before it was overtaken by event.

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Rasheed floored Bastie twice in the second round with left hooks with the Ghanaian boxer going down in the corner by the ropes.

Samie tried to recover from the first knockdown to the cheer of the home support, but Idowu followed it up with some combination punches and then another left hook which sent the Ghanaian back to the canvas and out cold leaving the referee no option but to end the bout. Medical personnel rushed to the ring to revive Samie.

However, the shocker came soon enough for the Nigerian boxer and his entourage as the match commissioner who is the Ghana Boxing Authority president and announcer declared a technical draw to the amazement of all who witnessed the bout.
The Olympic decision to excommunicate boxing from their events might actually seem justified but I do not support it because I believe that instead of going that way, they might simply reform the entire boxing regulations. The introduction of technology might actually help just like the VAR in football.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Orpichukwu on May 22, 2024, 09:24:38 PM
I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.
There are a lot of sportbook providers that support boxing; it's just that many people don't usually place bets on them, and in this part of the world, we focused mainly on different kinds of soccer games. Caesars Sportbook and others offer boxing as part of their sport betting. 
 
Some of the regular casinos you know even offer betting on boxing. You can place a bet ahead of the match before the match time, just as you do on football matches. Stake is among the betting platforms that support such bets.
 
Since it's not something that happens on a regular basis, that's why you don't know about it, and you might also not be a fan of boxing, which could be part of the reason why you don't know so much about it.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: milewilda on May 22, 2024, 09:41:58 PM
I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.
There are a lot of sportbook providers that support boxing; it's just that many people don't usually place bets on them, and in this part of the world, we focused mainly on different kinds of soccer games. Caesars Sportbook and others offer boxing as part of their sport betting. 
 
Some of the regular casinos you know even offer betting on boxing. You can place a bet ahead of the match before the match time, just as you do on football matches. Stake is among the betting platforms that support such bets.
 
Since it's not something that happens on a regular basis, that's why you don't know about it, and you might also not be a fan of boxing, which could be part of the reason why you don't know so much about it.
Usually people would really be that only making some boxing bets on the time that the said fight is really that making some buzz or making up some noise on main stream media but if its not or something that do talks about those non that popular boxer then expect that there would really be less that would bet into them. As for those big fights or those known boxers then it would really be creating such noise on which it would really be just that normal that it would really be caught someones attention or into those bettors. As for beign corrupt then this is something that cant really be removed. Why? We are living in a world on which even sports industry does have that kind of corruption and its something that we cant be able to remove or avoid.

The only good thing when betting up with these kind of main big events is that it would really be unlikely that a certain fight would be rigged or fixed, not unless if we do speak or talk about
exhibition fights on which results could really be that making that upside down or simply with those upset or totally opposite on what we are expecting, even how well you do
are on making those analysis.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: alani123 on May 22, 2024, 09:46:35 PM
In my opinion every sport that doesn't have a cashout option is awful to bet and boxing is in this category because I've had a small bet on Fury this weekend and I didn't have cashout option where his odds were low but I had no idea boxing will be this way so I will never bet again. So yea , boxing is awful to bet because of this non cashout option but this is just my own opinion.  :)
To be honest I never bet on boxing because I don't understand it well but are all casinos like that? If so, having all casinos completely disable a cash out option on a specific sport kinds goes to show it's a bit even less fair. Because additionally to all the issues of unfair practices by corruption and unfair referees...

Suddenly it just makes fixing matches much more profitable. Maybe it's too conspiratorial. But I'd say probably not. Without fair overnight it could happen every where. But in a non team sport, by nature it's easier to fix things.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: 348Judah on May 22, 2024, 09:58:58 PM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Is the justification to their own reaction hundred percent genuine, we cannot predict the way people could react, I've noticed that once there is no concession between two parties in agreement, one will try to deviate from the other and state their own reason for that, but in this case, we all know how boxing game is, this live sport event is not what we can really make a conclusion on to be the worst bet in gambling, though there are some lapses in which sometimes could be unpredictable, same as we have also had with many other sports and bets in gambling, there cant be hundred percent fairness.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: mirakal on May 22, 2024, 11:43:07 PM
You just have to pick who is the more popular boxer, and of course there are upsets, but most of the time the odd makers favored or pick the correct winner. I do agree, there are corruption here. Who wouldn't forget how the South Koreans screw up Roy Jones Jr in the Olympics?

And now we have the Sulaiman's of the WBC as corrupt as any governing body in any sports.

But still though, there are a lot of boxing fans here, with the amount of threads being open for every fight and you can see that there are a lot of knowledgeable members here as far as boxers and can predict the outcome of the fight.
Boxing may be known for how corrupt the officials are, but that won’t stop these fans not to bet in boxing. For as long as their idols are sticking to boxing, that will make them continue to bet more.

The only solution here is never expect too much in boxing because no matter how good your favorite player is, once dirty fight continues, you will never see assurance in boxing. Just bet on the amount you can afford to lose so you won’t keep regretting in the end.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: adpinbr on May 24, 2024, 12:41:47 AM
Whenever is good, but it depends on the one you understand the most because different people understand but different way that is our complaint is different men have different perspective on the kind of games you should involved with so it’s not really determined anything but it is just a simple policy that it will be worked out and organized properly and organized, you can bet in boxing if you understand it , but if you don’t you will go for what you think is fine


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: Oasisman on May 24, 2024, 01:50:01 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Talking about boxing corruption, it has been happening for quite a while now already.
I don't know if the boxing association have ran out of elite and exciting boxers, because it seems like the current system that they're doing is to have a boxer build up his name, fight bunch a mediocre boxer and become undefeated. I mean they are building a hype around a specific boxer by carefully picking opponents.
Now, I'm not gonna be surprised if a corruption in boxing happens in the Olympics as well.
Boxing was never the same as before, it is more of a business now rather than sports.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: DaNNy001 on May 24, 2024, 02:23:22 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Talking about boxing corruption, it has been happening for quite a while now already.
I don't know if the boxing association have ran out of elite and exciting boxers, because it seems like the current system that they're doing is to have a boxer build up his name, fight bunch a mediocre boxer and become undefeated. I mean they are building a hype around a specific boxer by carefully picking opponents.
Now, I'm not gonna be surprised if a corruption in boxing happens in the Olympics as well.
Boxing was never the same as before, it is more of a business now rather than sports.
I could say the same for almost all sports but the thing is that for boxing it's more vivid to see how they are framing everything, it's almost as everything is now stage, telling who and who to fight. I don't know about the level at which the corruption has eaten deep into the system but am certain about one thing which is the fact that betting on boxing games is definitely a NO NO for me.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: justdimin on May 24, 2024, 07:18:05 AM
It is easy for corruption and match fixing to happen in gambling than in football. I have never thought of this before because I feel that boxing is free from corruption. Just as said by other members, I don't like betting on boxing, but I love to watch the match.

Football is my favorite sport which I always bet on and basketball sometimes. This is because I love these two sports more than boxing and the probability of match fixing on big club matches is very low.
Corruption and match-fixing can be done in any sport as long as there are people from the associations that are ready to take the money and sacrifice the sport for it leaving the fans to suffer because they getting some money in return for ruining the sport. However, those who know a sport very well, have always been following it and watching matches and they know the weaknesses and strengths of each player, maybe such people can be successful in placing their bets in such sports.

When we talk about football or soccer, even that isn't exempted from match-fixing and other things that are used to cheat and make a team win or lose by referees and officials. On lower level leagues and tournaments, there is a lot of match-fixing in football happening as well.


Title: Re: Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?
Post by: harapan on May 24, 2024, 07:50:31 AM
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade


Your reasons are quite understood as over the years I watch how opponent becomes enemies after which due to the level of corruption set by the referees but have not really placed more insight on betting in boxing as I feel it's not a fair game but then I would agree to this your statement that it's worse betting on it as let alone watching the sports isn't cool at all.
For me I prefer football and basketball so much and I can place a bet on them and get the fun and excitement when doing so.but in another aspect boxing can be a very thrilling game to place bets if one really know every strategies to ascertain that effect.