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Title: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: papokala on June 01, 2024, 02:41:32 PM Hello everyone,
I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. Furthermore, I completed the KYC verification immediately upon registering on the site. Thus, this issue is not related to any delay in completing the KYC process. The core issue appears to be that the site is seemingly making it intentionally difficult to process withdrawals, thereby dragging out the process and avoiding payments. This behavior raises concerns about the platform’s reliability and integrity, as it seems to be in bad faith. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Charles-Tim on June 01, 2024, 03:13:10 PM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Eternad on June 01, 2024, 03:16:52 PM You should read the ToS first before you start playing especially if you are gambling with a high bankroll. Some casino like the one you mention set a low withdrawal limit due to limited casino bankroll and some reason related to casino finances/AML.
On this case since it’s clearly written on their ToS before you deposit, You can’t change their decision since they set that limits for some reason. Although the 500$ per day limit while 50K Euro limit contradicts itself. You should pointed out this technical error with them through the support since they don’t have ANN thread/representative on forum. Maybe the daily limit increases based on your VIP level in that casino. Maybe check that part. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: PX-Z on June 01, 2024, 03:25:34 PM Charge to experience. You should read ToS of every casino you're going to use, this includes on banned countries, license, KYC, withdrawal limits, etc. Better to stop using the casino regularly until you withdraw all of this 10k then move to another casino, or you can go to other casino while playing on Betiro once a day after/before you withdraw.
I read the same issue here related to an eth-related casino, IIRC that was €45k wins then there's only €5k limit withdrawals per day. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Apocollapse on June 01, 2024, 03:32:10 PM On this case since it’s clearly written on their ToS before you deposit, You can’t change their decision since they set that limits for some reason. The site only mention the monthly limit withdrawal.Although the 500$ per day limit while 50K Euro limit contradicts itself. You should pointed out this technical error with them through the support since they don’t have ANN thread/representative on forum. Quote from: https://www.betiro.com/en/terms 9.6. The maximum withdrawal amount per month is € 50,000. It's true what @OP can do is contact the support, however this could be a technical error or they intentionally did that in order to trap the high rollers. Considering it's a brand new casino and they don't have any social medias, the casino looks quite suspicious. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: AbuBhakar on June 01, 2024, 03:32:33 PM Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) Their betting limits is indeed confusing and misleading since they only declare monthly limits on ToS without mention daily limits. Normally, players will just assume that 50K will be divided to 30 days to get daily limit which is different to the actual limit. You should a complaint with their help desk instead here since few user above already pointed out that they don’t representative to answer your request. Most importantly, can you withdraw 500$ daily? Just stick to this slow withdrawal, at least you can still get your money back and profit at the same time even for 2 months of withdrawal time. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Ojima-ojo on June 01, 2024, 03:34:59 PM Some things need to be checked before you deposits and play on a casino because and for sure you are not going to get any help from this thread since the site in question may not see or read anything on this thread because their don't have presence here in the forum, but by the way you did well to inform us of how betiro lower gamblers withdrawal limits Incase we come across the site anywhere.
Another suggestion for you is to check if the limit was placed on the account because of non kyc compliance from you if betiro is a kyc casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: papokala on June 01, 2024, 03:52:46 PM Some things need to be checked before you deposits and play on a casino because and for sure you are not going to get any help from this thread since the site in question may not see or read anything on this thread because their don't have presence here in the forum, but by the way you did well to inform us of how betiro lower gamblers withdrawal limits Incase we come across the site anywhere. Another suggestion for you is to check if the limit was placed on the account because of non kyc compliance from you if betiro is a kyc casino. There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. https://i.ibb.co/yP8zpD2/10km.png (https://ibb.co/jfLCzdt) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Dunamisx on June 01, 2024, 04:00:04 PM I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Its something we can do in helping promoting other platforms we see are of a notable influence from our experience in using them, we should not only get limited to a particular platform, this could have been more attractive if you're making it on their announcement thread or peradventure if you happens to be their representative making this, then you need to create on and for more of it kind. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Beparanf on June 01, 2024, 04:01:46 PM There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. Do you try to raise this concern with their live support? That’s the quickest and easiest way to solve your issue since the casino itself is the one who will decide if they will adjust their withdrawal limits if there’s an error on their side. It’s useless to argue here since we as forum members can only give an opinion while our opinion doesn’t give much effect to your case since the casino involved doesn’t have any reputation to protect here. I’m curious on what’s the support reply to your issue? Edit: I just read the screenshot attached to your reply. There’s nothing you can do if the support decided to go that way. Maybe use arbitrator for your case. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Wapfika on June 01, 2024, 04:14:57 PM There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. https://i.ibb.co/yP8zpD2/10km.png (https://ibb.co/jfLCzdt) This is indeed unreasonable AF! ToS should always govern and there’s no way it’s a typo and the actual withdrawal limit will govern because players refer to ToS before playing while not honoring the limits declared on it is clear jeopardizing of their own rules. They should use the 50K monthly withdrawal as limit on your account before they implement the new limits that they just newly discovered due to your case. Try to re-negotiate your case with them and emphasize to them that they should honor the limits on the ToS since no one will know their daily limit unless they are already initiating the withdrawal. This is a shady behavior for a casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bitbollo on June 01, 2024, 04:17:39 PM @papokala
What explanation did they give you for this limit? I mean, it's very arbitrary as a choice and there's no plausible reason to impose such restriction. Unfortunately, you have to follow their rules... or decisions they made. I wouldn't want to read your topic in other sections of the forum..... ::) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hamphser on June 01, 2024, 04:57:53 PM One of the most mind boggling things on why people do really end up on using up platforms which doesnt have that sufficient or enough review in regarding about their reputation and its existence?
If you do really just that make yourself that sensible on the actions you are making then you wont really be ending up on having this kind of problem on which considering these are not that small amounts we are talking on here. Now the best thing to be done is to wait up until they would really be giving those funds and no community would really be able to help out in regarding about on getting those funds back. This is why we should really be that sensible on the things that we are really that dealing with. Why cant people do make simply having that google search and look for the best and known ones rather than on testing out with those unheard of? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Sunderland on June 01, 2024, 05:01:26 PM I can say they are indeed committing fraud against you because what is stated in the T&C are the policies they have made and they also must follow that.
Every casino has the right to change the T&C at any time but they dont do that, even now its still the same. You have 2 options now, first you can take this case to askgambler/casinoguru or like it or not - you follow what they want by withdrawing $500 every day for more than 2 months. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Nrcewker on June 01, 2024, 05:39:46 PM I am wondering how you are getting to know about these gambling sites. You need to understand, OP, if a site doesn’t have a thread here in the forum, then it’s highly doubtful that it is a legit site or not. Now the site’s name you have mentioned, I have hardly heard about its existence. On top of this, you have made a huge deposit of $10,000 USD in the site. This only proves your lack of seriousness about your hard-earned money. Sadly, here in the forum, nothing can be done, as they don’t have a thread or forum representative here. The best you can do is keep getting in touch with their support team. I hope you get your deposit back at least by withdrawing 500$ daily.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Upgrade00 on June 01, 2024, 06:11:28 PM This is an obvious marketing ploy. They are aware that having your money there for a long period of time will attract one to gamble and try to increase the amount won, giving the website a opportunity to recuperate their losses whenever they make a high payout.
Any regular gambler can deposit and withdraw amounts larger than that easily within a 24 hour period and will be forced to gamble less giving the conditions they are playing in. It will be difficult to challenge them, they'll just point you to a discreet part of their terms where they included it in. Focus on withdrawing your funds over the required period and moving to a site with better conditions. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Kavelj22 on June 01, 2024, 06:17:15 PM Some things need to be checked before you deposits and play on a casino because and for sure you are not going to get any help from this thread since the site in question may not see or read anything on this thread because their don't have presence here in the forum, but by the way you did well to inform us of how betiro lower gamblers withdrawal limits Incase we come across the site anywhere. Another suggestion for you is to check if the limit was placed on the account because of non kyc compliance from you if betiro is a kyc casino. There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. https://i.ibb.co/yP8zpD2/10km.png (https://ibb.co/jfLCzdt) This does not seem like professional behavior at all. The discrepancy is clear between the daily and monthly withdrawal limits, and this was confirmed by the updates that support informed you of. This raises many doubts about whether you will truly succeed in withdrawing the full amount, even over a long period of time, despite all the disruptions caused by the length of the procedures’ limits. There is almost no suggestion that can be made to you other than to continue your daily withdrawal request according to the maximum allowed limit, in the hope that you will not be disabled in any unexpected way. I would also like to ask you, how did you find this casino that no one in the crypto gambling community seems to know about? How did you gain the confidence to deposit $15,000 so simply? The casino does not have any communication channels with the community and does not seem to be interested in building a good reputation as it contradicts itself when setting withdrawal limits. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Lanatsa on June 01, 2024, 06:52:14 PM One of the most mind boggling things on why people do really end up on using up platforms which doesnt have that sufficient or enough review in regarding about their reputation and its existence? Exactly and totally true on what you have said on which people would really be only that trying to ask or approach the community on the moment that they will really be experiencing some issues but on the moment that they would really be that making those deposits they wont really be trying out to ask whether the site they are dealing with is legit and known or not?.If you do really just that make yourself that sensible on the actions you are making then you wont really be ending up on having this kind of problem on which considering these are not that small amounts we are talking on here. Now the best thing to be done is to wait up until they would really be giving those funds and no community would really be able to help out in regarding about on getting those funds back. This is why we should really be that sensible on the things that we are really that dealing with. Why cant people do make simply having that google search and look for the best and known ones rather than on testing out with those unheard of? Just like on what you have said that it wont really be costing you an arm and leg when it comes on making up some searches trying to find out whether they do have some pending issues or not. In speaking about that sudden change of those terms or those withdrawal limits or whatsoever that it is really that connected to it then it is really that a shady part. No platform would really be making out such changes and if they do make out those kind of reasoning at the moment that you are trying out to withdraw then you could be able to say that you are dealing with a scammy site. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Slow death on June 01, 2024, 07:20:10 PM clearly you created an account at a casino with shady behavior, this is the type of behavior that scammers use to avoid paying, so you need to spend every day withdrawing the 500 USDT while you can, I honestly know that what I'm going to tell you is painful, but because Did you create an account at a casino without much of a good reputation like this casino when you could have used a good casino like stake.com? And why did you rush to put a lot of money into a casino without a great reputation and without having tested your first withdrawal to find out if they would really pay you?
From now on, don't use these strange casinos, use good casinos like stake.com and always test the casino using little money, something like $500 and play with that, then test making withdrawals to see how quickly the casino will pay you, only when you have tested the casino a lot and when you can gradually increase the money deposited in the casino. Do not blindly trust casinos, always think that they may not pay you or limit your withdrawal. At casinos like stake.com, you can trust them, because they don't need to limit your withdrawals, they make big payouts, they are a big and reliable casino Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 01, 2024, 08:29:19 PM Unfortunately, it is my very first time coming across the name "Betiro", and like I believe some members on this forum must have mentioned, this casino has no presence on this forum, by presence, I mean they do not have an official ann on this forum, so, it's hard for the forum users to do anything.
@op, have you tried to complain about this to their customer care, what was their response? And you yourself, didn't you read the terms and conditions of this casino before you decided to deposit and play there? This is absolutely your fault if you ask me, but then, what has happened has happened, what I did advice you do now is, be patient with time it will take for you to get all your money out from the casino, and pray the process all the withdrawals on time without them bringing up any drama, choose a better and will reputable casino, for example; Stake.com, where you are allowed to withdraw any amount of money, as long as you have passed the required kyc verification. Good luck with this. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 01, 2024, 09:02:31 PM And you yourself, didn't you read the terms and conditions of this casino before you decided to deposit and play there? This is absolutely your fault if you ask me, but then, what has happened has happened, There is no mention of a daily withdrawal limit in their ToS. The only limitation is on how much you can withdraw per month (€50k). So, no, it's not his fault.Besides, after he contacted their support they informed him that the monthly limit is €10k which is way less than the amount mentioned in their ToS. I don't want to call them scammers, not just yet, but I wouldn't trust a service provider that doesn't respect its own terms. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 01, 2024, 09:27:35 PM And you yourself, didn't you read the terms and conditions of this casino before you decided to deposit and play there? This is absolutely your fault if you ask me, but then, what has happened has happened, There is no mention of a daily withdrawal limit in their ToS. The only limitation is on how much you can withdraw per month (€50k). So, no, it's not his fault.Besides, after he contacted their support they informed him that the monthly limit is €10k which is way less than the amount mentioned in their ToS. I don't want to call them scammers, not just yet, but I wouldn't trust a service provider that doesn't respect its own terms. If as you've said it above is exactly how it is, then, i personally would say that there is no reason not to call a spade; a spade, this casino looks as scammy as f*ck, there is no need beating about the bush. And the worst thing right now is, op isn't even sure of getting the $500 daily withdrawal processed until the very last of it, but I guess there is nothing he can do, other than to just try. This is one reason why I always will advise gamblers to always avoid unknown casinos, casinos that are not popular are more likely to be a scam than the popular ones, and I am also guessing that op did not bother doing some research about this casino before depositing and playing there? Because I believe that there must have been someone else who must have gone through this same problem op is right now, and posted about it online somewhere - and speaking of this, I did a quick research now and discovered that this casino is actually a new casino launched this year 2024, and as a new casino, they are still very limited in revenue, and may struggle to pay our big withdrawals, this is something op should have considered before choosing this casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: adaseb on June 01, 2024, 09:59:37 PM Yeah like others i've never head of this gambling website. At first I assumed it was a non-crypto type of casino but you mentioned USDT so its indeed a crypto casino.
I don't agree with this type of behaviour they are treating you with. I guess its better to have a $500 daily withdraw limit than get the entire balance frozen, however its shady how they 1) Never stated the $500 daily withdraw limit 2) Only stated 50000 EUR monthly limit but didn't uphold it 3) Gave you a lower monthly limit when you contacted support. My advice, keep withdrawing the $500 a day until balance it empty and never use the website again. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: acroman08 on June 02, 2024, 06:57:49 AM There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. (img snip-) I was gonna say that maybe the 500 USDT daily limit is exclusive to that coin but after reading your latest post, I guess not. anyway, just curious, have they mentioned when they changed the rules? because if they changed it right after you won then they are clearly trying to make it hard for you to withdraw and probably hoping that you get bored and gamble your remaining funds, and casinos who do that should not be trusted. At this point, there is not much that can be done but to withdraw your funds on a daily basis until you get all your money from the casino.Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Pmalek on June 02, 2024, 07:49:42 AM I am not familiar with this platform, but since they don't have an account on Bitcointalk and no announcement thread, there is nothing anyone here can do. Even if they had, it's their casino and their rules. The interesting thing is that they don't mention daily or weekly withdrawal limits in their terms, they only show the monthly total. But you can't reach the €50k by withdrawing 500 USDT daily.
Looking at the second post you made in this thread, it looks like their T&Cs aren't up to date or they are lying. Is the limit the same for other cryptocurrencies as well? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: kotajikikox on June 02, 2024, 08:03:02 AM Hello everyone, looks like you are trapped into a greed if not a scam site mate because first we have no representative here in this site and second 500 dollars daily withdrawal limit? even cheap casino offers higher than this amount.I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. Quote According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. you just need to Hope that they will comply here since there is nothing we can call attention as they don't have ANN thread here.I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. Furthermore, I completed the KYC verification immediately upon registering on the site. Thus, this issue is not related to any delay in completing the KYC process. The core issue appears to be that the site is seemingly making it intentionally difficult to process withdrawals, thereby dragging out the process and avoiding payments. This behavior raises concerns about the platform’s reliability and integrity, as it seems to be in bad faith. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 02, 2024, 08:16:59 AM This is not the first time I read a similar story, which means that it is now becoming the reigning evil plan of some casinos, especially the small ones. This is why I often advise gamblers not to go for anyhow/random casinos because it is highly possible that their big winnings will not be paid even if the casino wants to pay the winnings. Inasmuch as they do not have the money to pay, there is nothing you can do, you will have to wait.
But first, have you contacted them aside from the terms of condition you read about the withdrawal and the ugly experience while trying to withdraw your money? This could help further as it could be some kind of internal error on your account, it happens, so don't let us conclude yet if you've not done that. However in the absence of that, this is certainly not fair, they can collect your deposits as big as it is but can't pay you your withdrawal, which is bad. They might have used the $50,000 monthly withdrawal written in their Ts&Cs to lure people into their casino for them to believe that they are well-capitalised, but upon dealing with them, the revelation will be clear in a bitter way. I hope that you get your money back sooner or later. Before I go, let me advise you, have it in mind that you are ending your relationship with them, it's not worth it, but they may stop paying you the $500 daily withdrawal limit if you stop betting with them, because such a casino is not in for any good. You may continue betting with a very small amount of money even as you continue to move out your money daily. By the 42nd day, you would have withdrawn all your money. This is very annoying, it's just a way to entrap one's money for unfair reasons. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Alone055 on June 02, 2024, 09:12:58 AM There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. https://i.ibb.co/yP8zpD2/10km.png (https://ibb.co/jfLCzdt) So they mentioned 50k Euro as the monthly limit in their ToS, mentioned nothing about a daily withdrawal limit, and then when gamblers deposited, gambled, and some of them managed to win just like you, they decided to reduce the monthly withdrawal limit from 50k Euros to 10k Euros all of a sudden. ::) Sure, that doesn't sound odd at all. :P LOL. This is why it's not recommended using platforms that aren't reputable, even if a gambler decides to try a platform out, they should make large deposits, let them grow in the community, prove their worth, and then they should be considered for large deposits. High rollers should choose reputable platforms such as Stake and many others that are available in the forum as well. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Russlenat on June 02, 2024, 09:17:47 AM I'm quite surprised as well that you know the forum and yet you didn't bother to check if this casino has an ANN thread in the forum. The problem is, when a casino is not reputable, most of the time you'll face a problem using them, and here it is now based on your experience, they have an unbelievable TOS that does not coincide at all.
$500 daily withdrawal limit but $50,000 monthly limit? That amount already looks suspicious. But if they really process your daily withdrawal, you can just be patient until you get all your money and then stay away from them. There are plenty of popular and reputable casinos in the forum mate, what's lacking is your time to explore. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: papokala on June 02, 2024, 09:43:34 AM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment.
I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: acroman08 on June 02, 2024, 10:12:37 AM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. if you don't mind, could you update us if anything happens, and if the payment starts to delay for several days or week/s you can try to post your issue on casino.guru, I checked Betiro there and it seems that casino.guru has made a review on them, they might be able to help you resolve any that might arise.edit: I checked if there are recent complaints opened against them and it seems like you already posted your issue there. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. this is why it is important to only use a gambling platform that is known to many people and has a very good reputation. I hope you get to withdraw all your funds. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: panjul07 on June 02, 2024, 11:52:58 AM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) After reading the whole story you provided in this thread, I can say that you are playing in a casino which is managed professionally. I have never heard about this casino before, I have no idea how and where did you find this casino and what is the reason why do you like this casino? Changing their rule about withdrawal limit upon your request is really bad practice from a casino. 500 EUR daily limit, 10k EUR monthly limit are just too low, which means that you will have to wait at least for 2 months in order to withdraw all your balance and you need to make 20 withdrawal request per month 500EUR each. Well, maybe you have to keep asking them to get an exception for your withdrawal. Otherwise, this information will make them lose a lot of players and new potential players will not be interested to play in this casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Taskford on June 02, 2024, 01:08:43 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) After reading the whole story you provided in this thread, I can say that you are playing in a casino which is managed professionally. I have never heard about this casino before, I have no idea how and where did you find this casino and what is the reason why do you like this casino? Changing their rule about withdrawal limit upon your request is really bad practice from a casino. 500 EUR daily limit, 10k EUR monthly limit are just too low, which means that you will have to wait at least for 2 months in order to withdraw all your balance and you need to make 20 withdrawal request per month 500EUR each. Well, maybe you have to keep asking them to get an exception for your withdrawal. Otherwise, this information will make them lose a lot of players and new potential players will not be interested to play in this casino. To bad we cannot hear the explanation of the casino on why they have this kind of limits since they don't have a thread here. So I guess for that reasons or what OP experience regarding on this unknown casino much better if we avoid this. This is one of the reason on why we should choose the casino who launch their business here so that we can sue them if they do illegal actions to their costumer. Compare to that or those casino which doesn't have a thread here where we will have a hard time to find a good answer since for sure their representative will do delaying tactics just to avoid paying huge as what people requesting to withdraw on their casino. 500 EUR and 10k EUR monthly limit is so small and whales must be careful on this since most provably they get trapped on their implementation. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Upgrade00 on June 02, 2024, 01:11:13 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. That's ridiculous and probably illegal too. Any service reserves the right to make changes to the terms in which they offer their service, but the users have to be aware of and accept the new terms at the time of using said service.Any changes made after this point without any notice is not legal, ensure to document your communication with them so far, an archiving to can work well to do that. With the unprofessionalism they have shown, I wouldn't hold out high hopes of being able to withdraw the entire funds. If it becomes increasingly difficult to withdraw even within the daily limit, you may want to engage a lawyer to shake them up and try forcing their hand. Calling them out on social network they are popular is also a good approach. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: AbuBhakar on June 02, 2024, 02:04:37 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) Maybe it’s bad idea to poke them earlier before you even manage to withdraw even your deposit amount first. Does delay is not the same on your first withdrawal? They probably watching your account closely now that they knew you have huge balance trapped on their casino. The support reply is very unprofessional. Using the word they forgot but still doesn’t do a compromised despite acknowledging error on their side is red flag. I suggest that you should finish your withdrawal by patiently trying daily before having an argument with them since your balance is trapped. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: stompix on June 02, 2024, 02:19:11 PM One of the most mind boggling things on why people do really end up on using up platforms which doesnt have that sufficient or enough review in regarding about their reputation and its existence? First deposit bonuses! Betiro advertises a 200% on the first deposit up to 10 000 euros. For a gambler it's easy bait, they think that even if he loses 40% of his matches at even odds he will still make money because of the huge bonus, so they will want to play only that money, make enough to withdraw, and then jump to the next casino with a huge promotional offer! Or try with an alt account! Also, before taking that they should know the bonus only gets in batches: https://www.betiro.com/en/promotions/welcomeoffer Quote For every six times the initial first deposit amount is wagered, the player receives a cash equivalent to 20% of the deposit up to 200% So basically if you've deposited 100$, and rolled that up five times but managed to lose it you don't have any money left to get your bonus!Common thing but to some it might turn to be a surprise! Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Lida93 on June 02, 2024, 03:37:31 PM When using any online crypto casino or sport betting site those key sections we refuse to give our time to and knowing what it entails as regards to the ToS of the platform will somehow take us back to knowing it the hard way. And when it does, all that can be done is to complain.
The op doesn't sound like a newbie gambler, which is why it does turns me off when I see that supposed old-gamblers would be making mistakes that newbies gamblers should be found wanting of. Withdraw/deposit limit, among other key things should be what a gambler should check first before using any gambling platform, don't make assumptions about it be sure by reading their ToS, this is one of many things we get to differentiate a seasoned gambler from a reckless newbie. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Haunebu on June 02, 2024, 03:54:13 PM Damn! This is straight up scamming(Intentional or Unintentional). 500 bucks withdrawal limit per day screams scam and it implies that they aren't willing to payout your entire withdrawal op.
I would genuinely be surprised if they actually did. Their online live support is the only way that you can communicate with them since they don't have a presence in this forum as others have mentioned already. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hispo on June 02, 2024, 04:26:56 PM Damn! This is straight up scamming(Intentional or Unintentional). 500 bucks withdrawal limit per day screams scam and it implies that they aren't willing to payout your entire withdrawal op. .Though, because of the lack of official representation of that casino here in the forum, I am glad OP opened this thread to make us all aware of its existence of that their terrible policies when comes to withdrawal limits. I would genuinely be surprised if they actually did. Their online live support is the only way that you can communicate with them since they don't have a presence in this forum as others have mentioned already. It is not outright a scam, it is a shady tactic used by small and shady casinos so people cannot withdraw their winnings as fast they would like to, so they could feel tempted to continue to gamble and lose more of those already realized winnings. As we all know, the majority of gamblers do not even care to take a look at the term of services before depositing, so it is an strategy which is put onto place by the management of the casino to maximize their profit of unknowing gamblers/victims. I personally doubt OP will be able to convince the staff of the casino to change their policy, so my advice for him would be just to withdraw all that money little by little everyday, until there is nothing left there, then request for his account to be deleted. It is better not to waste any more time with casinos like those. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Davidvictorson on June 02, 2024, 05:37:01 PM The site only mention the monthly limit withdrawal. Why would a casino have this type of "monthly limit withdrawal" in place and then instead of trying to make it a seamless and hassle free process for their customers, yet they decide to do the opposite. Since it is a new casino I don't want to believe that they are out to scam people of their money, I would just conclude that they may not have enough technical experience to deal with this. Maybe it is a big in their system. They need to fix it before word gets out that they do this to their customers and then they lose prospective customers. Quote from: https://www.betiro.com/en/terms 9.6. The maximum withdrawal amount per month is € 50,000. It's true what @OP can do is contact the support, however this could be a technical error or they intentionally did that in order to trap the high rollers. Considering it's a brand new casino and they don't have any social medias, the casino looks quite suspicious. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Saint-loup on June 02, 2024, 06:57:28 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. It's the first time I hear of such small limits for withdrawals from a casino to be honest. That's the lowest I've ever seen. Maybe they've issues with their bankroll, if some customers have won jackpots or big winnings recently but they should be able to rise the limits for high rollers and good customers who ask for that at least. Maybe you should try to reach the CEO of the casino if customer support agents are not able to do it by their own. They maybe could give you his email address for this kind of requests. I don't think it will take several months to withdraw $15000 if you're able to withdraw $500 each day but one month at least for sure.I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 02, 2024, 08:45:26 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. This is the most stupid excuse I've ever heard, honestly. It just shows how unprofessional they are. Unfortunately, as others have said, there isn't much we can do to help you with this. All you can do is to keep withdrawing the max allowed amount every day and hope they won't come up with another excuse to prevent you from withdrawing. It's the first time I hear of such small limits for withdrawals from a casino to be honest. That's the lowest I've ever seen. Maybe they've issues with their bankroll The problem is that they didn't even bother to mention those limits in their ToS.Besides, if they don't have enough money to pay such small amounts then they shouldn't be running a casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Wexnident on June 02, 2024, 08:59:50 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. Take a snapshot (the internet archive thing) of their site maybe before they updated the change? The monthly limit was ok, but imposing a daily limit was dumb as hell. Or not stating it in their ToS in the first place as well. Updating a ToS as well should happen BEFORE the updates roll down on the site, not after. And even to this date the ToS still remains the same, so I highly doubt they're working on it ASAP lol. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. Anyway, as I was saying, snapshot, then file a complaint to curacao or something if you want to push through your complaint. Highly doubt it'd work, but hey, it's a free option. Unless you want to go the legal way which is probably going to take more time than you withdrawing 500 (was it USD, or Euro) daily. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Moreno233 on June 02, 2024, 09:37:13 PM Hello everyone, First, did you read their TOS about the daily and monthly withdrawal limits before you registered account there? Even if you don't, I think there are things that are not clear with the casino. They understand that the more you have your money in their platform, the more chances you will lose them. In other words, they don't want the big players and those with big wins to get their money out of their platform. I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. From what I can see, they are new to the business, so you would have been more cautious before depositing big amount in the platform. They ought to have earned some reputation before you can trust them. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. For your information, those people are not affiliated to this forum neither have I seen them create ANN thread here so I doubt there is much you can achieve posting here. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 02, 2024, 10:05:33 PM Take a snapshot (the internet archive thing) of their site maybe before they updated the change? Technically, they haven't officially updated anything yet so there should be plenty of material because even right now, the clause about the mentioned daily withdrawal limit change can't be found on their fine prints lol what a joke. Further, It's not op's problem if they forgot to update it. TBH, it sounds like a lie, how could someone work on something as big as this and completely forgot about it. It would've been more believable if the change was about small things. @OP, I suggest spreading the word in as many gambling communities as possible. Good luck with your casino guru's case! Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 03, 2024, 11:08:08 AM Oops, this is bad for you, mate, and this is the reason why it is quite important to carefully read the terms and policies of any platform you are using before introducing your money there. You were quick to complete your KYC, just as you I assumed that this kind of issue might come up, and you were not wrong, but the problem here is not based on KYC again but on the policy that the casino has set.
Betiro doesn't sound familiar to me, and I agree that they don't have any ANN threads here on the forum. You can contact their support and submit your suggestions to them so they can modify the withdrawal limit, but mind you, there are many reputable casinos on this forum, and I can refer you to stake.com. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 03, 2024, 01:18:45 PM Sorry but where did you get this site?random casino in internet .?
Because you are posting here that none of us have Heard this site before. But what I was thinking that casino only allows players to withdraw that Small amount but they are allowing gamblers to deposit as much as they wanted,? A seem to be a not so friendly for gamblers . Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 03, 2024, 02:03:53 PM Sorry but where did you get this site?random casino in internet .? I had exactly same thought when I first came across this thread and reading the op, though I did not mention this on my first comment, I wondered where and how op came about this casino, knowing well that the casino is not familiar to any of us on this forum, so I supposed he must have come across the casino through some random ads or recommendations on internet, and many he was attracted to play there due to some bonus the casino offered.Because you are posting here that none of us have Heard this site before. But what I was thinking that casino only allows players to withdraw that Small amount but they are allowing gamblers to deposit as much as they wanted,? A seem to be a not so friendly for gamblers . But on the other hand, I think op really messed up big time, this a new casino that was launched this year 2024, new casinos are prone to such issues as limitation to withdrawal amount, because at this that they are, they need more money in than money out, so, players who choose to play on new casinos like this are always advices to only deposit very small amount of money and play only with that, if I was op, I wouldn't have deposited more than a hundred dollars to this casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: betswift on June 03, 2024, 02:37:33 PM You should always read the ToS, always!
Next time, you can find the most trusted platform to play and have no such issues later on! Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: seoincorporation on June 03, 2024, 03:48:34 PM You should always read the ToS, always! I agree with you betswift, is important to read the terms, but i took a look at their terms and they don't mention a daily withdrawal limit, they only mention the monthly limit as you can see in the next link:https://www.betiro.com/en/terms Quote 9.6. The maximum withdrawal amount per month is € 50,000. So, is weird how they add some new rules for OP "on the fly".Next time, you can find the most trusted platform to play and have no such issues later on! This is the best way to be sure that you will get your money if you win a big amount.Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Viscore on June 03, 2024, 03:59:18 PM You should always read the ToS, always! Next time, you can find the most trusted platform to play and have no such issues later on! Not everyone reads the TOS because it's often seen as a waste of time or too long to read. I think the easiest way to find the best casino is to look for a reputable and popular one. If we are aware of the forum, we can easily find the best casinos by simply looking at the activity on their ANN thread. This casino, being the subject of our discussion, is a bad casino because its daily limit does not align with its monthly limit. Though we don't gamble with big money, sometimes we get lucky and win big. To withdraw our big winnings without a problem, gambling at a big casino should be the choice and it should not be hard to find. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 03, 2024, 04:03:10 PM You should always read the ToS, always! According to previous comments, it's been said that the casinos did not add this information to their term and conditions, which personally, I find very scammy.Next time, you can find the most trusted platform to play and have no such issues later on! When I entered this thread and read op, the first thing that I thought of was why op didn't read the terms and conditions of the casino before engaging, I also asked this on my first comment here, but I was replied to and told that the information on that limited withdrawal amount was not mentioned any where in the terms and conditions of the casino, clearly shows that the casino knows what they are doing, and it's sure not good. Personally, like ive said before, i am still blaming op for depositing such a huge amount on a new gambling site without a reputation yet, it's a big risk he took, but all the same, let's wait and see if they casino will pay him all his money back even with the $500 max withdrawal every week. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Agbe on June 03, 2024, 04:18:53 PM There are lot of casinos that have big withdrawal amounts every what suffering yourself with a casino like that. $500 daily withdrawal when you have about 21,000 USDT? That should be a scam casino because definitely they k ow people would win big amount that will reach $2,000,000 and above and they limit the withdrawal to $500 then what will they do with the rest? That is unfair withdrawal limit. They should increase it to a reasonable amount. And the worst part is that they don't have an Announcement Thread or representative here in the forum so there is no way you make your complain to them. And the best way for you know is to withdraw your funds every day until you empty your account then your look for campaigns that have ANN thread here (Vave recommended).
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: CryptSafe on June 03, 2024, 04:21:02 PM This is the first time I am hearing such a name here on this platform. Their presence is not known here and the name sounds strange to my hearing.
This is amongst the reasons why people are advised to always take out time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before engaging with them. If this policy wasn't like that initially when OP registered with them, then there is every possibility that the casino is facing financial issues and to salvage the situation, they had to limit their daily withdrawal to that amount to help them be able to meet up with payment and the other reasons I could think of is that of KYC level withdrawal limit. Some casino do have withdrawal limit for some membership or KYC level which requires an individual to be able to meet up with before they could withdraw some certain amount of money from their casino dashboard. I believe it could be the case of OP but the mail itself speaks of volume than could be deciphered. OP, I believe some reputable members here could come to your rescue by communicating to the casino of their actions and possibly ways to resolve this issue. I would advise you keep your eyes on this thread you have created for possible response that could help you get back your money faster. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: casinosfyi on June 04, 2024, 08:55:36 AM Hello everyone, I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros (https://casinos.fyi/casino/quatro-casino-review/). However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. Furthermore, I completed the KYC verification immediately upon registering on the site. Thus, this issue is not related to any delay in completing the KYC process. The core issue appears to be that the site is seemingly making it intentionally difficult to process withdrawals, thereby dragging out the process and avoiding payments (https://casinos.fyi/casino/booi-casino-review/). This behavior raises concerns about the platform’s reliability and integrity, as it seems to be in bad faith. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) Thanks for sharing Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: barbara44 on June 04, 2024, 11:15:23 AM There is no mention of a $500 daily limit on their site. They only state a monthly limit of 50,000 Euros. I actually read their rules. When I saw the 50,000 Euro limit, I never imagined there would also be a daily limit. Additionally, they have reduced the monthly limit to 10,000 Euros, which contradicts their own stated rules. If this is a response to your support ticket and they didn't notify their customers before changing the terms and conditions, this is highly unprofessional and gamblers should avoid this platform. And even if they inform their gamblers about the change, going from 50,000 Euros straight to 10,000 Euros is a very big leap and it isn't reasonable at all. They should have reduced the limit in portions and should have reduced 40,000 Euros at once.https://i.ibb.co/yP8zpD2/10km.png (https://ibb.co/jfLCzdt) Whatever reason or excuse they give for this change, I would advise you to keep withdrawing your funds every day until you manage to withdraw everything in a couple of months and try to avoid gambling with them and find a better and more reputable platform for your gambling activities. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: BlackRexuz on June 04, 2024, 01:03:29 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. It's the first time I hear of such small limits for withdrawals from a casino to be honest. That's the lowest I've ever seen. Maybe they've issues with their bankroll, if some customers have won jackpots or big winnings recently but they should be able to rise the limits for high rollers and good customers who ask for that at least. Maybe you should try to reach the CEO of the casino if customer support agents are not able to do it by their own. They maybe could give you his email address for this kind of requests. I don't think it will take several months to withdraw $15000 if you're able to withdraw $500 each day but one month at least for sure.I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. https://i.ibb.co/sPLzJdd/Ekran-g-r-nt-s-2024-06-01-194238.png (https://ibb.co/VNX5pcc) Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 05, 2024, 07:36:29 AM Hello everyone, Fair limits must be about $1.500. Or they have to decrease monthly limit. Anyway i think that both these limits are unfair. If they have to limit withdrawal, it would be fair to look at the user deposit. Everybody must have an opportunity to return his deposit(at least) in a week. It is my opinion, but i never was in such situation.I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. Furthermore, I completed the KYC verification immediately upon registering on the site. Thus, this issue is not related to any delay in completing the KYC process. The core issue appears to be that the site is seemingly making it intentionally difficult to process withdrawals, thereby dragging out the process and avoiding payments. This behavior raises concerns about the platform’s reliability and integrity, as it seems to be in bad faith. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hamphser on June 05, 2024, 05:47:03 PM This is the first time I am hearing such a name here on this platform. Their presence is not known here and the name sounds strange to my hearing. Same here and for sure most people on this forum too. This is why it wouldnt really be shocking that there would really be those issues in those unheard platforms and people would be running here into this forum This is amongst the reasons why people are advised to always take out time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before engaging with them. If this policy wasn't like that initially when OP registered with them, then there is every possibility that the casino is facing financial issues and to salvage the situation, they had to limit their daily withdrawal to that amount to help them be able to meet up with payment and the other reasons I could think of is that of KYC level withdrawal limit. Some casino do have withdrawal limit for some membership or KYC level which requires an individual to be able to meet up with before they could withdraw some certain amount of money from their casino dashboard. I believe it could be the case of OP but the mail itself speaks of volume than could be deciphered. OP, I believe some reputable members here could come to your rescue by communicating to the casino of their actions and possibly ways to resolve this issue. I would advise you keep your eyes on this thread you have created for possible response that could help you get back your money faster. and telling their issues and complaints. Why they cant really just search up first on this forum or making up some questions before making some deposits? If we do really look around, there are tons of legit sites or platforms on which we can assure that wont really be having this kind of shady behavior on which limits has been decreased unreasonably? The only thing that you could really do into this kind of condition is to wait up for them on what their response. The community could really just give out some advise but its not something that could help out totally on resolving such issue but at least we are here to bring up warnings if ever they are really that showing some scammy behavior. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: RounderCasino on June 05, 2024, 06:07:13 PM Hi everyone,
I completely understand the frustration with Betiro's withdrawal limits. It's disappointing to deal with such restrictions, especially when you've made significant deposits and won a considerable amount. Here are a few points to consider: Financial Management: Smaller or newer casinos often implement daily withdrawal limits to manage their finances effectively and to prevent abuse, such as exploiting promotions or collusion in games like poker. This helps ensure they can cover all payouts without jeopardizing their operations. Cash Flow: By spreading out withdrawals, Betiro ensures they can meet operational costs and pay other players on time. Reaching Out for Exceptions: It's worth contacting Betiro’s support to explain your situation. If you’ve completed KYC and have a legitimate history on the platform, they might make an exception. Even when our platform was smaller, we always made exceptions for big players to ensure a positive experience. Consider Other Platforms: If Betiro doesn't resolve this, it might be best to explore other online casinos with more user-friendly policies. Hopefully, Betiro will review and adjust their policies to be fairer and more transparent. Keep the community updated on your progress! Best of luck! Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: CryptSafe on June 05, 2024, 06:33:49 PM This is the first time I am hearing such a name here on this platform. Their presence is not known here and the name sounds strange to my hearing. Same here and for sure most people on this forum too. This is why it wouldnt really be shocking that there would really be those issues in those unheard platforms and people would be running here into this forum This is amongst the reasons why people are advised to always take out time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before engaging with them. If this policy wasn't like that initially when OP registered with them, then there is every possibility that the casino is facing financial issues and to salvage the situation, they had to limit their daily withdrawal to that amount to help them be able to meet up with payment and the other reasons I could think of is that of KYC level withdrawal limit. Some casino do have withdrawal limit for some membership or KYC level which requires an individual to be able to meet up with before they could withdraw some certain amount of money from their casino dashboard. I believe it could be the case of OP but the mail itself speaks of volume than could be deciphered. OP, I believe some reputable members here could come to your rescue by communicating to the casino of their actions and possibly ways to resolve this issue. I would advise you keep your eyes on this thread you have created for possible response that could help you get back your money faster. and telling their issues and complaints. Why they cant really just search up first on this forum or making up some questions before making some deposits? If we do really look around, there are tons of legit sites or platforms on which we can assure that wont really be having this kind of shady behavior on which limits has been decreased unreasonably? The only thing that you could really do into this kind of condition is to wait up for them on what their response. The community could really just give out some advise but its not something that could help out totally on resolving such issue but at least we are here to bring up warnings if ever they are really that showing some scammy behavior. I believe a million and one gamblers still do not know about this platform and does not know how or where to channel their complaints whenever they have anything of such nature. Newbies that finds their way here might be based on recommendations by a known figure here or they must have done little research or internet surfing online to see best website to complain about casinos. However, some newbies are not what we think they are. I believe they are established members here playing with unknown casinos and when they start having issues with the casino, they come complaining with a new identity so that members do not blame them for their ignorance and negligence. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Dunamisx on June 05, 2024, 09:05:32 PM Gambling platforms are subjected to review or make a change concerning their policy, terms and conditions of service at any time, they would have stated this on their page if you go through it thoroughly, and sometimes, when such changes is being implemented, some of them take time in communicating to their gamblers while some may not, that is why we must also have a stand on the use of the casinos knowing well that anything can change at any time and get prepared for such.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bettercrypto on June 05, 2024, 09:58:58 PM According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. I hope you read the TOS of the casino before you deposit money on their platform. I just can't imagine that, despite the fact that the casino is new, you can decide so quickly to deposit such a large amount of money without at least exploring this casino platform first. In that regard, the casino management seems to have made a mistake because there are 50,000 euro monthly limits, and yet the daily limits are only 500 dollars, which is around 15,000 dollars in a month. Well, you have no other choice but to do what you can really do, rather than not being able to get out what you put in little by little. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 05, 2024, 10:47:00 PM I completely understand the frustration with Betiro's withdrawal limits. It's disappointing to deal with such restrictions, especially when you've made significant deposits and won a considerable amount. Here are a few points to consider: Financial Management: Smaller or newer casinos often implement daily withdrawal limits to manage their finances effectively and to prevent abuse, such as exploiting promotions or collusion in games like poker. This helps ensure they can cover all payouts without jeopardizing their operations. Cash Flow: By spreading out withdrawals, Betiro ensures they can meet operational costs and pay other players on time. TBH, I would have leaned towards this if the limits aren't too low for a casino with high multiplier games -- 500 EUR daily, 3000 EUR weekly, 10000 EUR monthly? Sounds like they don't have the budget to run a casino with such games. Further, not one mention of these changes in terms of service because they forgot about it lols. Not op's problem IMO. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: paxmao on June 06, 2024, 09:54:41 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 06, 2024, 10:26:03 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. Sorry but the $500 daily withdrawal limit is not reasonable or acceptable even for small players. I doubt you can find a single successful casino that has such ridiculous restrictions.Besides, small players make small deposits and bet small amounts but when it comes to withdrawals then even them do make huge ones. The real problem here is not the low limits but the fact that they didn't inform their customers about the changes they introduced to the terms. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 07, 2024, 10:13:01 AM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. It is good limit for the common gambler, i totally agree with you. But as for me - the problem is that monthly limit is $50.000. It is unreachable with such daily limit if i remember maths. It would be fair increase daily limit to $1.650 at least. The other way is to decrease or cancel monthly limit. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 07, 2024, 12:59:21 PM Gambling platforms are subjected to review or make a change concerning their policy, terms and conditions of service at any time, they would have stated this on their page if you go through it thoroughly, and sometimes, when such changes is being implemented, some of them take time in communicating to their gamblers while some may not, that is why we must also have a stand on the use of the casinos knowing well that anything can change at any time and get prepared for such. Well, I have heard over and over that gambling businesses have their terms and conditions and it is subject to change, agreed! But did you read the OP mentioning they updated him about the terms and conditions different from what he signed up for?That is the issue here. The last time I read the OP, he claimed that the casino's terms and conditions clearly indicateed that he can withdraw $50,00 monthly. If this is correct, it means that he has the right to withdraw far more than $500 daily alocated to him daily. This can only be cheating and nothing else.Also, I like you to know today that there are approaches to doing things, casinos can't be lawless and be using the terms and conditions to back it up the way you pointed it out here. There are laws which both the establishment and the customers must follow to avoid cheating each other, they must also agree with terms of cooperation and be notified if there is a change. If at all there is a change, the change shouldn't be so wicked to the point that someone who deposited $10,000 will have to wait 20 good days to withdraw his money, what if he has profits included? It will now be way more, which is wicked. Charging such casinos to court will not end well for them as whether they have changed Ts&Cs or not, the judge is not a fool and this kind of a thing is what even angers them the more, and more reason they side the complainers in this kind of cases. They would have sensed forcefulness where the casinos is lording itself on the customer no matter the update in their terms of service. However, it's the lack of good regulation that emboldens some of them to do that. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: AbuBhakar on June 07, 2024, 02:22:04 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. The website is indeed has a problem on this case base on the evidence provided by the OP in the first page post. The website claims a 50K max withdrawal limit per month which means they have 1666USD max withdrawal per day if they will follow their original monthly withdrawal yet the casino said that they made an error and fixed it with lower monthly withdrawal right after OP has a huge balance in the casino. This is on casino fault since declared a wrong limit. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 07, 2024, 02:23:37 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: betswift on June 07, 2024, 02:30:50 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 07, 2024, 08:56:58 PM Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! VIP players, certainly, have many advantages like better bonuses and the like depending on their VIP level and that's how casinos reward their loyal customers but higher withdrawal limits shouldn't be one of those advantages.If they allow high rollers to withdraw high amounts then the financial management reason mentioned by RounderCasino is no longer valid for them. Preventing small players from withdrawing high amounts would look more like blackmailing, in this case. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Bitinity on June 07, 2024, 11:13:31 PM ------ Fair limits must be about $1.500. Or they have to decrease monthly limit. Anyway i think that both these limits are unfair. If they have to limit withdrawal, it would be fair to look at the user deposit. Everybody must have an opportunity to return his deposit(at least) in a week. It is my opinion, but i never was in such situation.It would not be fair even if the withdrawal limit per day is $5,000, because they casino accepts his $5000 deposit and other bigger deposit. Lets say the casino allows you to deposit $50k but the withdrawal limit per day is $5k only, it is not fair at all. If the casino has such low withdrawal limit, they should also have a deposit limit per day. Allowing players to make big deposit but making players hard to withdraw money by the withdrawal limit is sign of scam imo. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 08, 2024, 06:43:15 AM ------ Fair limits must be about $1.500. Or they have to decrease monthly limit. Anyway i think that both these limits are unfair. If they have to limit withdrawal, it would be fair to look at the user deposit. Everybody must have an opportunity to return his deposit(at least) in a week. It is my opinion, but i never was in such situation.It would not be fair even if the withdrawal limit per day is $5,000, because they casino accepts his $5000 deposit and other bigger deposit. Lets say the casino allows you to deposit $50k but the withdrawal limit per day is $5k only, it is not fair at all. If the casino has such low withdrawal limit, they should also have a deposit limit per day. Allowing players to make big deposit but making players hard to withdraw money by the withdrawal limit is sign of scam imo. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Lanatsa on June 08, 2024, 08:15:59 PM ------ Fair limits must be about $1.500. Or they have to decrease monthly limit. Anyway i think that both these limits are unfair. If they have to limit withdrawal, it would be fair to look at the user deposit. Everybody must have an opportunity to return his deposit(at least) in a week. It is my opinion, but i never was in such situation.It would not be fair even if the withdrawal limit per day is $5,000, because they casino accepts his $5000 deposit and other bigger deposit. Lets say the casino allows you to deposit $50k but the withdrawal limit per day is $5k only, it is not fair at all. If the casino has such low withdrawal limit, they should also have a deposit limit per day. Allowing players to make big deposit but making players hard to withdraw money by the withdrawal limit is sign of scam imo. then i doubt that it would be totally that 5k or even way more lesser. Usually even if we do say that VIP 0 or to those newly created accounts will really be still that having that considerable limit and even if you are that a small time gambler then you wont really be able to hit up such limit. On the moment that they've seen you that you are making some bucks even with small capital then you would really be on their eyes and get focused and monitors you out. On the moment that they have that attention on you then expect these kind of circumstances. Also, dealing up with unknown sites is also that dangerous. Pretty sure that majority of us here on this forum didnt heard about Betiro? Or i had just missed out? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: btc78 on June 09, 2024, 09:29:26 AM Hello everyone, Looking at this case ? you seems to be fooled by a gambling site that looks like not willing to let gamblers to win high amount , this kind of site only wanted to let gamblers deposit but not to let you win .I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) 500 euro a day? when they are allowing you to bet higher and gain high so i guess this thread is enough for the whole bitcointalk forum members to never play nor consider checking this site. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Taskford on June 09, 2024, 12:00:07 PM Hello everyone, Looking at this case ? you seems to be fooled by a gambling site that looks like not willing to let gamblers to win high amount , this kind of site only wanted to let gamblers deposit but not to let you win .I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. 500 euro a day? when they are allowing you to bet higher and gain high so i guess this thread is enough for the whole bitcointalk forum members to never play nor consider checking this site. Maybe he didn't check properly that there's certain unfair condition implemented by a casino. That's why its important for us to know their rules since we might get surprise on what those casino have done and can possible avoid them while we don't encounter any issue. $500 Euro a day is really sick requirements since what will happen if there's a user win huge amount of money? For sure they might experience the same what @papokala experienced. So its really good that there's a case posted here since as you said a lot of gamblers here will get notified regarding on their situation and avoid to explore this casino since they are not doing any good business since it seems that they only want for their player is to lose and earn profit with them. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: erep on June 09, 2024, 05:16:32 PM $500 Euro a day is really sick requirements since what will happen if there's a user win huge amount of money? For sure they might experience the same what @papokala experienced. So its really good that there's a case posted here since as you said a lot of gamblers here will get notified regarding on their situation and avoid to explore this casino since they are not doing any good business since it seems that they only want for their player is to lose and earn profit with them. The casino does not describe the stated withdrawal limit of 500 euros in the rules and conditions published on the page, this rule is set unilaterally which is detrimental to users who do not know the withdrawal limit and they think 50k euros is the maximum withdrawal limit per month, unless they find out after requesting a withdrawal above the amount of 500 euros and then information about withdrawal limits appears.It seems that the casino is not consistent with the withdrawal limit rule of 50k euros per month, so I will simply calculate that 50,000 : 500 = 100, meaning they have to make 100 withdrawals a month, but the allowed withdrawal is only 500 euros per day. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: acroman08 on June 09, 2024, 05:50:49 PM Maybe he didn't check properly that there's certain unfair condition implemented by a casino. That's why its important for us to know their rules since we might get surprise on what those casino have done and can possible avoid them while we don't encounter any issue. there was no mention of the $500 daily limit on their Terms and Conditions, the OP only found out about it when he tried to withdraw again but couldn't because he reached the limit. their support even admitted that they are still updating things(their ToS) on their casino. so yeah, there was no way to know or indication that they had a $500 withdrawal daily limit before OP reached their daily withdrawal limit. also, even to this day they still haven't updated their Terms and Conditions.Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: pawanjain on June 11, 2024, 04:45:23 PM What's confusing here is that they have imposed a daily withdrawal limit of $500 when their monthly maximum withdrawal limit is $50000.
Even if someone is withdrawing daily with their maximum limit then they will just be able to reach $15500. So why have they mentioned $50000 as the monthly maximum limit. The only thing that makes sense here is if they have different daily maximum limit for different users. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 12, 2024, 08:11:16 AM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! deposit large amount and tries to bet but when they won and needed to withdraw? they will be allowed only by 500 usd? if this is their limit then the deposit limit must also same low, and besides that is not written in the TOS when OP starts playing and this means? a trap mate. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Taskford on June 12, 2024, 08:54:18 AM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! deposit large amount and tries to bet but when they won and needed to withdraw? they will be allowed only by 500 usd? if this is their limit then the deposit limit must also same low, and besides that is not written in the TOS when OP starts playing and this means? a trap mate. If OP failed to read it if there's written rule regarding on withdrawal limit then I guess there's also something wrong committed by OP since if he could able to read that then for sure he can avoid to gamble in that casino. But if there's no written but suddenly they implement that because they want their costumers to get trapped and leave no choice but to continue to gamble then lose then this is really a big trap which a casino illegally do. They must be stop and its good that people are been aware of what OP experience since for sure thing they can do especially if there's big money involve deposited by their costumer since its no far that they could also experience bad since maybe the intention of that casino is to scam people. So its important to avoid and never get curious to anything they offer since its hard to trust them on this situation. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bettercrypto on June 12, 2024, 09:23:20 AM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino.
And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: paxmao on June 12, 2024, 11:11:47 AM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. The figures seem ballpark correct for any player that I know, but I do not have many millionaire friends and I think none a billionaire. These high stakes players are surely going to need higher withdrawals, but I think that there is no reason why you would not be able to negotiate conditions for you account if there is some interest from the site on keeping you there as client. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: panjul07 on June 12, 2024, 12:42:00 PM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. That's not the main problem, the main problem is when the casino changing the term of withdrawal limit when the player request withdrawal. There is no daily withdrawal limit in their ToS but they added upon withdrawal request, so it is really bad practice from the platfrom. So even if you read the ToS before you play then the casino change the ToS after you deposit and play, what will you fell? All in all the case here is not about following the rules, but more about the unprofessional practice by the casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bitterguy28 on June 13, 2024, 12:28:57 PM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. but you knew that this is also cheating? because letting you withdraw 500$ each day knowing that you are a gambler and has that tons of money inside their casino?And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. meaning they wanted you to loss all that funds before you even get half of it. Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. exactly their plan mate because it is obvious that they say that ? forgot about updating the increasing of withdrawals? and seems like you are correct that they are only trying to let you lose every amount you have because as a gambler and experienced winning that huge means one thing , you will keep that feeling inside you and the eager of betting will keep haunting you. hope you maintain not to keep betting while waiting to take all that funds inside your account. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 13, 2024, 12:49:07 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! deposit large amount and tries to bet but when they won and needed to withdraw? they will be allowed only by 500 usd? if this is their limit then the deposit limit must also same low, and besides that is not written in the TOS when OP starts playing and this means? a trap mate. If OP failed to read it if there's written rule regarding on withdrawal limit then I guess there's also something wrong committed by OP since if he could able to read that then for sure he can avoid to gamble in that casino. But if there's no written but suddenly they implement that because they want their costumers to get trapped and leave no choice but to continue to gamble then lose then this is really a big trap which a casino illegally do. They must be stop and its good that people are been aware of what OP experience since for sure thing they can do especially if there's big money involve deposited by their costumer since its no far that they could also experience bad since maybe the intention of that casino is to scam people. So its important to avoid and never get curious to anything they offer since its hard to trust them on this situation. OP might not have Idea about this rules until he won that huge amount but I stand to be corrected if I missed something in this thread. this will never be forgotten and i know that we will remember this site and never to engage or play at least. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Taskford on June 13, 2024, 01:07:13 PM If OP failed to read it if there's written rule regarding on withdrawal limit then I guess there's also something wrong committed by OP since if he could able to read that then for sure he can avoid to gamble in that casino. But if there's no written but suddenly they implement that because they want their costumers to get trapped and leave no choice but to continue to gamble then lose then this is really a big trap which a casino illegally do. They must be stop and its good that people are been aware of what OP experience since for sure thing they can do especially if there's big money involve deposited by their costumer since its no far that they could also experience bad since maybe the intention of that casino is to scam people. So its important to avoid and never get curious to anything they offer since its hard to trust them on this situation. And that is OP what said here mate, that the rules has just added if I remember it right or updated so OP might not have Idea about this rules until he won that huge amount but I stand to be corrected if I missed something in this thread. this will never be forgotten and i know that we will remember this site and never to engage or play at least. Sad to hear that since if he could able to look at the TOS maybe the situation he encounter is avoidable. But since he experience that and already give a warning in this forum then forum ten provably that they cannot get a prospect victims here since a lot of people already know that there's a raised issue about what they have done to one of their costumer. This is the reason I don't want to outsource and find a good casino outside of this forum since we don't know if we get a reputable one or we will just get a casino that will give us a problem. More better to choose the casino here since aside for being reputable there business is running for long time and they will get an assurance that they would able to get their withdrawals. Compare to other unreputable casino where we will get worried if they would able to process our withdraw and if there's a support will help us if we encounter any issues on their casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 13, 2024, 02:53:51 PM I think that it is not the site being unreasonable, as 500 usd in one day seems perfectly fine for most players. What I think is that you may be a player that needs a site that is conceived for stronger betting and bigger limits. If this is your case, you need a site that is happy to work with bigger cash movements. The limits are there probably to ensure liquidity. Not sure if 500 is really fine for most gamblers because that is not even enough for alucky gambler mate ,what I do believe is at least 2000-5000 $ in daily minimum is enough ,what of you are lucky enough to win jackpot like 6 digits ?does this mean you can take all your funds in more than 200 days?lol that is more than half a year and surely you will lose that all again because you will gamble while waiting . Everyone has different gambling limits, if you are VIP player with 6 figures, they may have different conditions! deposit large amount and tries to bet but when they won and needed to withdraw? they will be allowed only by 500 usd? if this is their limit then the deposit limit must also same low, and besides that is not written in the TOS when OP starts playing and this means? a trap mate. What if they have the same measure in proportion to every withdrawal? For instance, what if they wanted to treat their customers the same way as this guy in the OP and when you have about $1,000 there, you can only withdraw $50 daily? The same thing goes for having $100 with them, you can only withdraw just $5. This is possible. I know many would say it is not possible, but have they tried it? For this, I always like to be sensitive and smart so that unplanned issues will not happen to me painfully. Finding excuses for them or believing that with a lower deposit and wagering the situation will change is just risking what is not necessary. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: pawanjain on June 13, 2024, 04:12:01 PM Live support says they forgot to update the rules page and that they can't increase the withdrawal limits. I will try to withdraw 500 Euros every day. However, I believe the site's intention is to make me lose my balance and avoid paying out at all. I submitted a withdrawal request again today, but they still haven't processed the payment. I registered here because I liked the platform. Yes, this is my mistake, and I regret it. But a 500 Euro withdrawal limit, like giving pocket money, is not acceptable in my opinion. snip This shows how unprofessional this site is. You can raise a scam accusation against this casino site so that everyone else is aware of it. But there's pretty much nothing else you can do about it. Yes, you can file a case against them in the court but you know how lengthy and tiresome that process can be. So the best choice for you to do would be to raise a scam accusation thread and just keep withdrawing the 500 Euros one by one on regular basis. I would recommend you not to indulge in playing any games on the site as the site will be finding ways now to ban your account and freeze your funds. Do not do anything that can lead you to getting your account banned. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Reatim on June 13, 2024, 04:56:16 PM However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. It's understandable that a gambling platform would not want their customers withdrawing their money and profiting off of them. These casinos want you locked in. They want you to keep putting money in, not getting it out. Though I can say $500 for a daily withdrawal is quite small but we can't blame them because they are still relatively new in this industry and still not as big as other platforms. Next time read the terms and conditions first before committing to a platform. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Dunamisx on June 13, 2024, 05:20:26 PM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. To me i see no reason for a withdrawal limit as long as the user is not having any related issues concerning incomplete gambling compliance to the platform either by cheating or failing to complete their required kyc mandate, ban is a completely different story entirely because if a gambling platform engage on doing something that warrant not to be seen from them, gamblers will not be using them and if a gambler is the one at fault for violation, then they will be restricted accordingly. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: acroman08 on June 13, 2024, 07:36:33 PM To me i see no reason for a withdrawal limit as long as the user is not having any related issues concerning incomplete gambling compliance to the platform either by cheating or failing to complete their required kyc mandate while withdrawal limits can be annoying it has valid reasons why they are placed. From what I remember reading, one of the reasons is there are gambling regulators that require online casinos to have withdrawal limits as a way to prevent money laundering.anyway, I also remember reading that withdrawal limits also benefit the casino as it can protect their interests, as you know if a gambler with a lot of funds can't withdraw all their funds in just one transaction there is a chance that they'll gamble with the remaining fund left on their account n the casino. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: HONDACD125 on June 13, 2024, 08:35:18 PM while withdrawal limits can be annoying it has valid reasons why they are placed. From what I remember reading, one of the reasons is there are gambling regulators that require online casinos to have withdrawal limits as a way to prevent money laundering. You are right about the significance and importance of withdrawal limits, however, I don't see any logic behind reducing the limit drastically without informing the gamblers or customers which is what they did and that is wrong and there can be no justification given about it. If they had plans to make that change or had decided to do so, they should have at least let the players know that they had made some changes in the terms and conditions. anyway, I also remember reading that withdrawal limits also benefit the casino as it can protect their interests, as you know if a gambler with a lot of funds can't withdraw all their funds in just one transaction there is a chance that they'll gamble with the remaining fund left on their account n the casino. They surely do, casinos are always looking for ways they can use to keep their gamblers within the platform and make them gamble more and more because that's what benefits them. When gamblers don't get to withdraw their funds, they will feel the urge to gamble and when they do that, they will most probably lose the money back to the house. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Onyeeze on June 13, 2024, 09:11:38 PM There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: acroman08 on June 13, 2024, 09:49:16 PM while withdrawal limits can be annoying it has valid reasons why they are placed. From what I remember reading, one of the reasons is there are gambling regulators that require online casinos to have withdrawal limits as a way to prevent money laundering. You are right about the significance and importance of withdrawal limits, however, I don't see any logic behind reducing the limit drastically without informing the gamblers or customers which is what they did and that is wrong and there can be no justification given about it. If they had plans to make that change or had decided to do so, they should have at least let the players know that they had made some changes in the terms and conditions. edit: I checked their ToS just now and it looks like they finally updated their ToS and included the changes they made. not sure when they did that because the previous time(June 9) I checked their ToS they haven't updated it. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 13, 2024, 10:10:56 PM .. Sorry, but what does kyc and identity verification have to do with OP's case? I don't get it, or are you referring to the different limits some service providers set for their customers based on their verification level (the higher the verification level the higher the withdrawal limit)!This is not what OP is complaining about. OP is complaining about the inconsistency between what's written on the ToS page and what customer support told him regarding withdrawal limits. I also can't understand why some members keep repeating that it's OP's fault for not reading the ToS! Please, re-read the topic and you will realize this is not true. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: paxmao on June 14, 2024, 03:27:48 AM .. Sorry, but what does kyc and identity verification have to do with OP's case? I don't get it, or are you referring to the different limits some service providers set for their customers based on their verification level (the higher the verification level the higher the withdrawal limit)!This is not what OP is complaining about. OP is complaining about the inconsistency between what's written on the ToS page and what customer support told him regarding withdrawal limits. I also can't understand why some members keep repeating that it's OP's fault for not reading the ToS! Please, re-read the topic and you will realize this is not true. If the site is not following the ToS it may be more serious than just a situation for this OP indeed. It would be ideal to know if other users have been experiencing the same situation of if there is either a one-of or the user is making a false claim. I think he should somehow support the claim as it seems that there is no confirmation from other sources on the situation with withdrawals. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 14, 2024, 05:50:49 AM If OP failed to read it if there's written rule regarding on withdrawal limit then I guess there's also something wrong committed by OP since if he could able to read that then for sure he can avoid to gamble in that casino. But if there's no written but suddenly they implement that because they want their costumers to get trapped and leave no choice but to continue to gamble then lose then this is really a big trap which a casino illegally do. They must be stop and its good that people are been aware of what OP experience since for sure thing they can do especially if there's big money involve deposited by their costumer since its no far that they could also experience bad since maybe the intention of that casino is to scam people. So its important to avoid and never get curious to anything they offer since its hard to trust them on this situation. And that is OP what said here mate, that the rules has just added if I remember it right or updated so OP might not have Idea about this rules until he won that huge amount but I stand to be corrected if I missed something in this thread. this will never be forgotten and i know that we will remember this site and never to engage or play at least. Sad to hear that since if he could able to look at the TOS maybe the situation he encounter is avoidable. But since he experience that and already give a warning in this forum then forum ten provably that they cannot get a prospect victims here since a lot of people already know that there's a raised issue about what they have done to one of their costumer. will not engage in their site to prevent being victim like what OP had experienced and this is why this community is here to reach out for everyone to warn others becoming new victims. Quote This is the reason I don't want to outsource and find a good casino outside of this forum since we don't know if we get a reputable one or we will just get a casino that will give us a problem. More better to choose the casino here since aside for being reputable there business is running for long time and they will get an assurance that they would able to get their withdrawals. Compare to other unreputable casino where we will get worried if they would able to process our withdraw and if there's a support will help us if we encounter any issues on their casino. exactly again never that I deal in other casino aside from being advertised here and being provento be legit and that is for me the reason why I wanted to check thoroughly each site before depositing. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bitterguy28 on June 14, 2024, 05:55:19 AM There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion. actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all inwhich OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP .. because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like this is a shill thread to advertise that site now. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 14, 2024, 11:55:54 AM There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion. actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all inwhich OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP .. because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like this is a shill thread to advertise that site now. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: ultrloa on June 14, 2024, 12:45:56 PM There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion. actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all inwhich OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP .. because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like this is a shill thread to advertise that site now. Yes exactly he never mentioned any problem related to KYC but rather the withdrawal limits and delay for processing the payments. This actions is commonly done by a scam casino and I encounter this one before on random casino. I try to complete all requirement what they ask but delays keep coming since its like fulfilling what they ask will never ends. So in case of OP I guess this is another series of delaying tactics made by a casino and it seems that there's no chance for him to get his money out of this casino. Biggest reason why I'm skeptical to gamble on a casino doesn't have any feedback from the community since we don't know if we are safe from them or same with OP we will just compromise or worst we get scam. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: kotajikikox on June 14, 2024, 01:03:05 PM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. yeah that is not bad after all because there are many cases here that the gambling site has been scamming players and giving nothing to withdraw but here there are at least 500$ a day in which for me thi is not bad afterall.Quote And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. But I think they trapped the player about the rules of withdrawal or at least edited the rules after winning by OP .Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Beparanf on June 14, 2024, 01:07:48 PM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. yeah that is not bad after all because there are many cases here that the gambling site has been scamming players and giving nothing to withdraw but here there are at least 500$ a day in which for me thi is not bad afterall.It’s really good than completely scam but there’s no guarantee either that he will continuously withdraw 500$ regularly since casino like this with small limit usually not fair on this matter. There’s a chance that he might receive less in the proce but yeah this much better since he has no other option. And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. But I think they trapped the player about the rules of withdrawal or at least edited the rules after winning by OP .You’re right because they should just follow the written limit before they edit it to the correct one if their intention is not to trap users. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Mrbluntzy on June 14, 2024, 05:01:50 PM I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. @papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hamphser on June 14, 2024, 05:41:00 PM I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. @papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com Yes, it would really be that might different into those typical platforms that we do have today but for sure they would really be sticking out with that kind of withdrawal methods. It might not that look appealing but just let them be. Sooner or later at the moment that they wont really be changing up those things and the at the moment that they've seen that they arent that getting that much attention or recognition just because of this kind of set up then they might really be able to reconsider it out but well its already bit late.. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 14, 2024, 08:38:34 PM I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. @papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com You are right, mate. A casino cannot just change its rules because one or two customers requested for it. The only reason I think a casino can eagerly change its rules is when they see that such rules are too strict and it's causing them to lose customers or not stand a chance to maintain customer loyalty. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 14, 2024, 10:48:46 PM And we're down to 13 hours left until op's complaint on casino guru gets processed. So far, there's still no reply from betiro, see: https://casinoguru-en.com/betiro-casino-player-claims-that-payment-has-been
On another note, I think op should have reiterated more their last minute change of tos which btw is pretty unprofessional gesture from betiro IMO 🤔 I hope this case gets solved though. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 15, 2024, 05:28:42 AM I don`t see that the OP has problems with KYC. He has problems with withdrawal limits. The same time i`m sure that we can find in ToS something like "the casino can KYC gambler any time they wants" - we see such words in any casino with KYC, i even don`t want to waste time searching for it and visiting its site. Yes exactly he never mentioned any problem related to KYC but rather the withdrawal limits and delay for processing the payments. This actions is commonly done by a scam casino and I encounter this one before on random casino. I try to complete all requirement what they ask but delays keep coming since its like fulfilling what they ask will never ends. So in case of OP I guess this is another series of delaying tactics made by a casino and it seems that there's no chance for him to get his money out of this casino. Biggest reason why I'm skeptical to gamble on a casino doesn't have any feedback from the community since we don't know if we are safe from them or same with OP we will just compromise or worst we get scam. The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bitterguy28 on June 15, 2024, 06:30:38 AM There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion. actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all inwhich OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP .. because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like this is a shill thread to advertise that site now. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: erep on June 15, 2024, 07:41:56 AM The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS. The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 15, 2024, 09:35:02 AM And we're down to 13 hours left until op's complaint on casino guru gets processed. So far, there's still no reply from betiro, see: https://casinoguru-en.com/betiro-casino-player-claims-that-payment-has-been almost couple of hours remaining but OP looks like not interested in dealing with this forum again On another note, I think op should have reiterated more their last minute change of tos which btw is pretty unprofessional gesture from betiro IMO 🤔 I hope this case gets solved though. as he is not willing to post nor update us what is going on and about that Casino guru decisions hope that this site will ever comply because it seems that they did not give further answers for OP's claim here. The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS. The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.this when someone win big? reducing the capability to withdraw the funds makes them cheater or at least something that Bitcointalk users should avoid dealing. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Betwrong on June 15, 2024, 11:23:24 AM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports. I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 16, 2024, 12:33:02 PM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports. I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another? So, there is really no reason to blame op, since any body outside of this forum can make the same mistake, what I did say is, since he is already, here, hope he start playing on only casinos from this forum, that have been tested and trusted. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 16, 2024, 12:54:25 PM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports. I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another? All I can advise is that we should look for reputable casinos to avoid all that. The best way to do this is to look for well-liquid casinos like Stake.com with track records. By this, you can't be racking your head to gamble and still racking the same head on the withdrawal limit, which is absurd. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Cantsay on June 16, 2024, 01:02:28 PM Lol...Casinos having a presence in the forum is not a requisite for good service, and limit issues like this are scarce. This is true for not seeing such as a regular complaint on the forum but everywhere I also read of casino issues. The main ones are the KYC verification issues, reduced wagering limit and withdrawal denial, many of which are worse than the limit issues here, and the casinos advertising here are not exceptions to these complaints. All I can advise is that we should look for reputable casinos to avoid all that. The best way to do this is to look for well-liquid casinos like Stake.com with track records. By this, you can't be racking your head to gamble and still racking the same head on the withdrawal limit, which is absurd. It’s true that a casino having an Ann here does not automatically make them reputable but still, if one wishes to use a casino they can simply go through their Ann thread and see what other forum members who have used them before have said concerning them, and that’s the main reason most people always point out if a casino has a presence here or not - it only serves as a means of getting a better view of what to expect if they should start using it. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 16, 2024, 05:19:00 PM The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS. The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 16, 2024, 09:33:37 PM almost couple of hours remaining but OP looks like not interested in dealing with this forum again as he is not willing to post nor update us what is going on and about that Casino guru decisions hope that this site will ever comply because it seems that they did not give further answers for OP's claim here. I just checked up on op's casino guru complaint page and they have been asked for an update as well -- to be more precise, whether they have withdrawn their money or not. I still think the amount at stake is at least relatively big amount for op hence I remain to lean towards they might come back soon for an update. Maybe, not here anymore but on casino guru at least? 🤔 Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: HONDACD125 on June 16, 2024, 09:52:37 PM It doesn`t matter what they do, decrease bet limit, ban account or setting withdrawal limit. They can do it using the ToS and you can only try to choose casino without such paragraphs, but it mostly mean, that you don`t find it. And when they need - they show it to you. I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known. Actually, it does matter what they do. A gambler should indeed read the terms and conditions of a casino before joining so that everything is clear from the beginning, however, if a casino changes things later on and doesn't even inform the gamblers about it, I would consider that a red flag. There wouldn't be a problem if they had the rule from the beginning, and if they were to make changes, they should have announced it and informed all the players by showing a popup when they sign up, informing them about the changes just like how Stake and other reputable platforms do it. I would blame the gambler if they hadn't read the rules and then faced some problem, but if the rules have been changed, the gambler isn't wrong. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bitterguy28 on June 17, 2024, 09:02:50 AM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports. I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 17, 2024, 03:58:39 PM The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports. I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another? He gave me the exact same reply that he never knew that this forum exist, that it was until he had the issue and started searching for where to share his experiences and possibly get help( if any), that he came across this forum in the search results. And this also goes to show that most of this newbies usually do not take their time to do a proper and thorough research on casinos they are about to commit money to, before going ahead to, because if they actually do, they should have possibly come across this forum as well, ask questions here before proceeding to deposit money Into the casino if users here with better experiences approve of it. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 18, 2024, 08:15:31 AM Lol...Casinos having a presence in the forum is not a requisite for good service, and limit issues like this are scarce. This is true for not seeing such as a regular complaint on the forum but everywhere I also read of casino issues. The main ones are the KYC verification issues, reduced wagering limit and withdrawal denial, many of which are worse than the limit issues here, and the casinos advertising here are not exceptions to these complaints. All I can advise is that we should look for reputable casinos to avoid all that. The best way to do this is to look for well-liquid casinos like Stake.com with track records. By this, you can't be racking your head to gamble and still racking the same head on the withdrawal limit, which is absurd. It’s true that a casino having an Ann here does not automatically make them reputable but still, if one wishes to use a casino they can simply go through their Ann thread and see what other forum members who have used them before have said concerning them, and that’s the main reason most people always point out if a casino has a presence here or not - it only serves as a means of getting a better view of what to expect if they should start using it. Nonetheless, one should be very careful because we've seen good casinos/sportsbooks that later turned bad, also in some cases, the casinos/sportsbooks will not turn bad as such but a certain user will still fall victim of certain interests. One or two of what is causing that is when the player is doing so well with the establishment or trying to withdraw his money, which in most cases is big enough to make some less liquid casinos/sportsbooks greedy. What am I saying? We should not use the advertisement here as a yardstick for an entire endorsement, there must be some factors of safety where thorough research by the person is needed. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 18, 2024, 11:20:53 AM It doesn`t matter what they do, decrease bet limit, ban account or setting withdrawal limit. They can do it using the ToS and you can only try to choose casino without such paragraphs, but it mostly mean, that you don`t find it. And when they need - they show it to you. I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known. Actually, it does matter what they do. A gambler should indeed read the terms and conditions of a casino before joining so that everything is clear from the beginning, however, if a casino changes things later on and doesn't even inform the gamblers about it, I would consider that a red flag. There wouldn't be a problem if they had the rule from the beginning, and if they were to make changes, they should have announced it and informed all the players by showing a popup when they sign up, informing them about the changes just like how Stake and other reputable platforms do it. I would blame the gambler if they hadn't read the rules and then faced some problem, but if the rules have been changed, the gambler isn't wrong. I read 2 times all the paragraphs but didn`t find paragraph about decreasing bet limit but when i asked the support about it - they showed it to me(just example). In some ToS we can find paragraph that casino can change ToS and gambler agree with it. If the casino changed ToS and it wasn`t in ToS from the beginning and gambler didn`t agree with it - casino is wrong. But i think that the problem not here. The problem mostly that all it is in ToS from the beginning but we don`t see/read/find it, until is too late. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hamphser on June 18, 2024, 05:57:19 PM It doesn`t matter what they do, decrease bet limit, ban account or setting withdrawal limit. They can do it using the ToS and you can only try to choose casino without such paragraphs, but it mostly mean, that you don`t find it. And when they need - they show it to you. I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known. Actually, it does matter what they do. A gambler should indeed read the terms and conditions of a casino before joining so that everything is clear from the beginning, however, if a casino changes things later on and doesn't even inform the gamblers about it, I would consider that a red flag. There wouldn't be a problem if they had the rule from the beginning, and if they were to make changes, they should have announced it and informed all the players by showing a popup when they sign up, informing them about the changes just like how Stake and other reputable platforms do it. I would blame the gambler if they hadn't read the rules and then faced some problem, but if the rules have been changed, the gambler isn't wrong. I read 2 times all the paragraphs but didn`t find paragraph about decreasing bet limit but when i asked the support about it - they showed it to me(just example). In some ToS we can find paragraph that casino can change ToS and gambler agree with it. If the casino changed ToS and it wasn`t in ToS from the beginning and gambler didn`t agree with it - casino is wrong. But i think that the problem not here. The problem mostly that all it is in ToS from the beginning but we don`t see/read/find it, until is too late. about on a certain user about being not be able to read up those TOS and have violated it and this is why it do really ends up on holding up with those withdrawals or would be decreasing limit or whatsoever. This is the main thing that should really be putted up in mind that it would really be always be best that dealing up with known and not into those new platforms that you are heading off with. It might be not an assurance about not to face up some issues but at least you are that seeing that its a communities choices and recognition. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Onyeeze on June 18, 2024, 10:11:03 PM .. Sorry, but what does kyc and identity verification have to do with OP's case? I don't get it, or are you referring to the different limits some service providers set for their customers based on their verification level (the higher the verification level the higher the withdrawal limit)!This is not what OP is complaining about. OP is complaining about the inconsistency between what's written on the ToS page and what customer support told him regarding withdrawal limits. I also can't understand why some members keep repeating that it's OP's fault for not reading the ToS! Please, re-read the topic and you will realize this is not true. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: bettercrypto on June 18, 2024, 10:41:05 PM .. Sorry, but what does kyc and identity verification have to do with OP's case? I don't get it, or are you referring to the different limits some service providers set for their customers based on their verification level (the higher the verification level the higher the withdrawal limit)!This is not what OP is complaining about. OP is complaining about the inconsistency between what's written on the ToS page and what customer support told him regarding withdrawal limits. I also can't understand why some members keep repeating that it's OP's fault for not reading the ToS! Please, re-read the topic and you will realize this is not true. In the OP's case, he didn't read the TOS of the casino platform itself, so he was surprised why that was. But we didn't read that his funds were taken and put into the casino, which is also a large amount. Because the first behavior of a new gambler who enters a casino is to try to deposit only a small amount first, not a large amount right away. Also, an online casino is not a bank, so you can immediately enter a large fund. So the OP's only choice is to follow the rules he can follow, and at least somehow he can still release all his funds, although the only cons are that it is a long process because it is really limited to 500 dollars, even though the withdrawal is not delayed. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Adbitco on June 19, 2024, 12:56:43 AM I am actually shocked to here this name I don't know if they launched here before or it's my fault not to read wider about some casinos but I will say that they have done wrong. Was this withdrawal imposed recently or it was already there because since you hardly make withdrawal instead you keep depositing you might not noticed it. The only thing I will say is that there are trusted casino and gambling site that are trusted and reliable without even limiting users to withdraw their funds from the platform.
Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 19, 2024, 04:07:50 PM Do you always read all the ToS? Honestly please. Lets just accept the fact that not all would really be that mindful or having the time on reading up sites terms and conditions on which if ever they would really be tending to read it up but still they cant be able to remember whether its been changed up on particular rules or something that has been altered and something that had been changed. This is why no matter what angle that you would really be tending to go or proceed on then there's no way that you could be able to fight up on what casinos that are really that trying out to pull on. Yes, there's nothing we can do if they would really be giving those issuesI read 2 times all the paragraphs but didn`t find paragraph about decreasing bet limit but when i asked the support about it - they showed it to me(just example). In some ToS we can find paragraph that casino can change ToS and gambler agree with it. If the casino changed ToS and it wasn`t in ToS from the beginning and gambler didn`t agree with it - casino is wrong. But i think that the problem not here. The problem mostly that all it is in ToS from the beginning but we don`t see/read/find it, until is too late. about on a certain user about being not be able to read up those TOS and have violated it and this is why it do really ends up on holding up with those withdrawals or would be decreasing limit or whatsoever. This is the main thing that should really be putted up in mind that it would really be always be best that dealing up with known and not into those new platforms that you are heading off with. It might be not an assurance about not to face up some issues but at least you are that seeing that its a communities choices and recognition. One more plus of the well-known casinos is that they have their thread and representative here and the gambler can speak not only with the support but with the administration and other gamblers too. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Sunderland on June 19, 2024, 04:37:57 PM I am actually shocked to here this name I don't know if they launched here before or it's my fault not to read wider about some casinos but I will say that they have done wrong. Was this withdrawal imposed recently or it was already there because since you hardly make withdrawal instead you keep depositing you might not noticed it. The only thing I will say is that there are trusted casino and gambling site that are trusted and reliable without even limiting users to withdraw their funds from the platform. The OP only made deposits twice and never withdraw from that platform before, also based on their T&C the withdrawal limit per month was $50k but after requesting a withdrawal it turned out there was a new rule that the max daily withdrawal was only $500 and it wasnt written in their T&C.So clearly this is a sneaky and unfair method with the intention that players with a decent balance or anyone who win big will continue to play there until their balance runs out. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Adbitco on June 19, 2024, 04:52:40 PM I am actually shocked to here this name I don't know if they launched here before or it's my fault not to read wider about some casinos but I will say that they have done wrong. Was this withdrawal imposed recently or it was already there because since you hardly make withdrawal instead you keep depositing you might not noticed it. The only thing I will say is that there are trusted casino and gambling site that are trusted and reliable without even limiting users to withdraw their funds from the platform. The OP only made deposits twice and never withdraw from that platform before, also based on their T&C the withdrawal limit per month was $50k but after requesting a withdrawal it turned out there was a new rule that the max daily withdrawal was only $500 and it wasnt written in their T&C.So clearly this is a sneaky and unfair method with the intention that players with a decent balance or anyone who win big will continue to play there until their balance runs out. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: MarvinHagler on June 19, 2024, 06:35:13 PM OP, any update?
They are definitely trying to scam you and avoid paying you out. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 19, 2024, 06:54:22 PM I am actually shocked to here this name I don't know if they launched here before or it's my fault not to read wider about some casinos but I will say that they have done wrong. Was this withdrawal imposed recently or it was already there because since you hardly make withdrawal instead you keep depositing you might not noticed it. The only thing I will say is that there are trusted casino and gambling site that are trusted and reliable without even limiting users to withdraw their funds from the platform. The OP only made deposits twice and never withdraw from that platform before, also based on their T&C the withdrawal limit per month was $50k but after requesting a withdrawal it turned out there was a new rule that the max daily withdrawal was only $500 and it wasnt written in their T&C.So clearly this is a sneaky and unfair method with the intention that players with a decent balance or anyone who win big will continue to play there until their balance runs out. But on the other hand as well, what you said makes sense, but this can only work if the casino were to be sincere and willing to pay all the money, because it's also possible that when ever the casino owner(s) notice that you are no longer playing games, but only comes to the casino to request withdrawal of your Funds, they may decide to stop processing the withdrawals requests. So, my personal opinion is, to keep them interested in processing your withdrawals, you have to play there from time to time, atleast, until you are able to get all your money out. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: rodskee on June 20, 2024, 10:37:45 AM OP, any update? We cannot consider this a scam because he is still allowed to withdraw though a very little amount than how much They are definitely trying to scam you and avoid paying you out. he wanted to take out , this is not scamming but Cheating , the site is making their way for a chance of OP risking every single amount while waiting for His fund to be withdrawn , we have seen this several times here and yeah the concern party have no control of her funds and losses everything because of the pending withdraws. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: paxmao on June 20, 2024, 11:01:07 AM OP, any update? We cannot consider this a scam because he is still allowed to withdraw though a very little amount than how much They are definitely trying to scam you and avoid paying you out. he wanted to take out , this is not scamming but Cheating , the site is making their way for a chance of OP risking every single amount while waiting for His fund to be withdrawn , we have seen this several times here and yeah the concern party have no control of her funds and losses everything because of the pending withdraws. Limiting the withdrawal cannot really be considered as a scam, it is mostly a preventive action just in case something happens and everyone tries to take the money at the same time, etc... It all comes down to the ToS and the agreement, but I guess that between having a hack or a fraud and limiting your withdrawal and cause you some inconvenience, the site will cause you the inconvenience. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 20, 2024, 11:52:12 AM OP, any update? We cannot consider this a scam because he is still allowed to withdraw though a very little amount than how much They are definitely trying to scam you and avoid paying you out. he wanted to take out , this is not scamming but Cheating , the site is making their way for a chance of OP risking every single amount while waiting for His fund to be withdrawn , we have seen this several times here and yeah the concern party have no control of her funds and losses everything because of the pending withdraws. Limiting the withdrawal cannot really be considered as a scam, it is mostly a preventive action just in case something happens and everyone tries to take the money at the same time, etc... It all comes down to the ToS and the agreement, but I guess that between having a hack or a fraud and limiting your withdrawal and cause you some inconvenience, the site will cause you the inconvenience. Lastly, there is no hacking prevention or fraudulent act that should have caused them to limit someone's withdrawal to that extent and the support has nothing to say about that. This is purely a deliberate and a dishonest act that shows how irresponsible they are. How can you call it fair under any guise for someone who could send about $10,000 without any stress into the casino but will take him at least 20 days to withdrawal his money. That is sheer wickedness if you do not know and it is doesn't sound good for you to talk it down. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: panjul07 on June 20, 2024, 01:27:08 PM OP, any update? We cannot consider this a scam because he is still allowed to withdraw though a very little amount than how much They are definitely trying to scam you and avoid paying you out. he wanted to take out , this is not scamming but Cheating , the site is making their way for a chance of OP risking every single amount while waiting for His fund to be withdrawn , we have seen this several times here and yeah the concern party have no control of her funds and losses everything because of the pending withdraws. Yes it is kind of cheating because the casino change and even add a new term upon withdrawal request which is not mentioned on their terms page. However cheating may turn into scam later so I think this experience is a good warning for us, at least we who read this topic will not fall into the trap by this casino. I'm curious now, how much have been cashed out by OP far since its been almost 3 weeks since he created this thread. Hopefully he is still patience enough in requesting withdrawal daily until he manage to withdraw all his money. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Betwrong on June 21, 2024, 11:02:01 AM ~ Well, on the other hand though, as much as I personally agree that it's more important for users of this forum to advocate for the casinos, and other service present on this forum, one truth and fact we all must face and agree to is that, there are also several crypto casinos out there that are not on this forum, and they have been operating for several years, and are reputable and well trusted, Interesting, I don't know about them. I mean, if I don't know them it doesn't mean that they don't exist at all, but for me personally they don't exist, and even if I knew about them, they would be among those shady casinos I would rather not trust, for me. I'll say it again, I can't even register on all platforms presented on this forum, why should I be looking for more? ~ and maybe their reason for not being on this forum might be because they possibly don't know that a forum like this does exists, and you will agree with me that this forum have never done any type of marketing to introduce the forum to the current new age crypto users. I'd call it simple negligence on their part. Being a crypto gambling platform how can you don't know about bitcointalk.org? Don't know how to use Google? Just search for "gambling with bitcoin" and you'll get this forum on the the very first page: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/21/hmya2.png So, there is really no reason to blame op, since any body outside of this forum can make the same mistake, what I did say is, since he is already, here, hope he start playing on only casinos from this forum, that have been tested and trusted. I hope so too. This will make his life much easier. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: kotajikikox on June 21, 2024, 11:24:05 AM All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino. yeah that is not bad after all because there are many cases here that the gambling site has been scamming players and giving nothing to withdraw but here there are at least 500$ a day in which for me thi is not bad afterall.It’s really good than completely scam but there’s no guarantee either that he will continuously withdraw 500$ regularly since casino like this with small limit usually not fair on this matter. There’s a chance that he might receive less in the proce but yeah this much better since he has no other option. Quote And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice. But I think they trapped the player about the rules of withdrawal or at least edited the rules after winning by OP .You’re right because they should just follow the written limit before they edit it to the correct one if their intention is not to trap users. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 21, 2024, 05:06:32 PM I'm curious now, how much have been cashed out by OP far since its been almost 3 weeks since he created this thread. Hopefully he is still patience enough in requesting withdrawal daily until he manage to withdraw all his money. Not sure what's going on but OP appears to have neglected his threads including on casino guru. Timer for his reply on casino guru is now down to less than a day. A good amount of money is at stake hence I was leaning towards he'll be coming back soon but I'm not sure anymore lol. My guesses now are either op gave up on speed running withdrawals for now or issue has been solved. 🤔 -- emphasis on "guesses" lol. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Hamphser on June 21, 2024, 06:55:00 PM I'm curious now, how much have been cashed out by OP far since its been almost 3 weeks since he created this thread. Hopefully he is still patience enough in requesting withdrawal daily until he manage to withdraw all his money. Not sure what's going on but OP appears to have neglected his threads including on casino guru. Timer for his reply on casino guru is now down to less than a day. A good amount of money is at stake hence I was leaning towards he'll be coming back soon but I'm not sure anymore lol. My guesses now are either op gave up on speed running withdrawals for now or issue has been solved. 🤔 -- emphasis on "guesses" lol. it would really be that leaving out hanging on which us community members who do really give out some advises or opinions would really be totally boggled whether this one had already been resolved or not. On the main issues on dealing up with sites which arent that known or really that popular is that these kind of issues are really that somewhat common on where it would really be that high chances that these kind of issues could really be that experienced. This is why it is really that somewhat mind boggling on why these people do really end up with sites which arent that popular if they could really just make out those simple searches on a few clicks? Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: khaled0111 on June 21, 2024, 10:21:48 PM .. Sorry, but what does kyc and identity verification have to do with OP's case? I don't get it, or are you referring to the different limits some service providers set for their customers based on their verification level (the higher the verification level the higher the withdrawal limit)!This is not what OP is complaining about. OP is complaining about the inconsistency between what's written on the ToS page and what customer support told him regarding withdrawal limits. I also can't understand why some members keep repeating that it's OP's fault for not reading the ToS! Please, re-read the topic and you will realize this is not true. In the OP's case, he didn't read the TOS of the casino platform itself, so he was surprised why that was. But we didn't read that his funds were taken and put into the casino, which is also a large amount. Because the first behavior of a new gambler who enters a casino is to try to deposit only a small amount first, not a large amount right away. Also, an online casino is not a bank, so you can immediately enter a large fund. So the OP's only choice is to follow the rules he can follow, and at least somehow he can still release all his funds, although the only cons are that it is a long process because it is really limited to 500 dollars, even though the withdrawal is not delayed. @Onyeeze, OP clearly said that he passed kyc successfully and that his issue has nothing to do with that. The casino didn't reject any of his documents and that's not the reason why they limited his withdrawals. @bettercrypto, he did read the ToS. The problem is that the casino did not comply with their own terms. The terms state that a user can withdraw up to $50k per month but when OP made a withdrawal request they limited him to $10k per month. They have finally updated their ToS but it seems they were in a hurry to do so :) : Quote from: https://www.betiro.com/en/terms 9.6. The maximum withdrawal amount: Weekly - € 500 Daily - € 3000 Monthly is € 10,000. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: AmoreJaz on June 21, 2024, 11:59:13 PM I'm curious now, how much have been cashed out by OP far since its been almost 3 weeks since he created this thread. Hopefully he is still patience enough in requesting withdrawal daily until he manage to withdraw all his money. Not sure what's going on but OP appears to have neglected his threads including on casino guru. Timer for his reply on casino guru is now down to less than a day. A good amount of money is at stake hence I was leaning towards he'll be coming back soon but I'm not sure anymore lol. My guesses now are either op gave up on speed running withdrawals for now or issue has been solved. 🤔 -- emphasis on "guesses" lol. This is a very good lesson for every gambler to check the reputation of the casino where he is playing at. As far as I know, betiro has no active rep here in this forum, so asking for assistance is quite hard for everyone. Now, if you are a high roller, better explore your opportunities in top reputable casinos and bookies, where large amount of withdrawal is not a problem. Since the OP already found his way here in the forum, I assume he will now learn valuable casinos to play at, without having issues of daily withdrawal limit. It is understandable that some casinos, especially not-so-big ones will limit their daily withdrawal limit as they can't afford yet when it comes to their financial capabilities. So if you believe you will exceed their limits, better not deposit on their site and find other casinos that you know can afford high amounts of withdrawals such as stake. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 22, 2024, 03:11:54 AM I'm curious now, how much have been cashed out by OP far since its been almost 3 weeks since he created this thread. Hopefully he is still patience enough in requesting withdrawal daily until he manage to withdraw all his money. Not sure what's going on but OP appears to have neglected his threads including on casino guru. Timer for his reply on casino guru is now down to less than a day. A good amount of money is at stake hence I was leaning towards he'll be coming back soon but I'm not sure anymore lol. My guesses now are either op gave up on speed running withdrawals for now or issue has been solved. 🤔 -- emphasis on "guesses" lol. This is a very good lesson for every gambler to check the reputation of the casino where he is playing at. As far as I know, betiro has no active rep here in this forum, so asking for assistance is quite hard for everyone. Now, if you are a high roller, better explore your opportunities in top reputable casinos and bookies, where large amount of withdrawal is not a problem. Since the OP already found his way here in the forum, I assume he will now learn valuable casinos to play at, without having issues of daily withdrawal limit. It is understandable that some casinos, especially not-so-big ones will limit their daily withdrawal limit as they can't afford yet when it comes to their financial capabilities. So if you believe you will exceed their limits, better not deposit on their site and find other casinos that you know can afford high amounts of withdrawals such as stake. I do not blame op for maybe trying out this casino, but I only blame him for depositing such a significant amount of money into a new casino without any reputation yet. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Potato Chips on June 22, 2024, 08:20:17 PM Not really something new on which these thread that had been created and on the moment that it would be resolved out or they had found some place on which they are focusing on trying to reply on then it would really be that leaving out hanging on which us community members who do really give out some advises or opinions would really be totally boggled whether this one had already been resolved or not. Yeah, that's true. I just checked back and casino guru has already given OP an ultimatum -- if he does not reply then his compaint will be rejected. It would be a bummer though if the complaint were to be rejected as I don't think betiro deserves their "above average safety index" on casino guru if they're changing their clause/s last minute. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: erep on June 22, 2024, 09:52:22 PM The casino didn't reject any of his documents and that's not the reason why they limited his withdrawals. Even though the ToS rules have been updated, the casino has acted outside the previous ToS provisions because the history of the previous rules did not explain the details of withdrawal limits, I think this will add an important note for casino users, maybe some users don't like the casino's decision to impose other rules without publishing new rules to users.@bettercrypto, he did read the ToS. The problem is that the casino did not comply with their own terms. The terms state that a user can withdraw up to $50k per month but when OP made a withdrawal request they limited him to $10k per month. They have finally updated their ToS but it seems they were in a hurry to do so :) : Quote from: https://www.betiro.com/en/terms 9.6. The maximum withdrawal amount: Weekly - € 500 Daily - € 3000 Monthly is € 10,000. However, the withdrawal limit is still low for the monthly amount because OP is a gambler with high capital and winnings, but they withdraw winnings below the budget that has been deposited into the gambling account. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: philipma1957 on June 22, 2024, 09:59:49 PM Hello everyone, I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience: Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances. According to Betiro's current rules, the monthly withdrawal limit is stated to be 50,000 Euros. However, with the daily withdrawal limit imposed, it would take me almost two months to withdraw my balance, provided that the withdrawals are processed consistently without any delays. This is an excessively lengthy period and poses significant inconvenience. I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy. Furthermore, I completed the KYC verification immediately upon registering on the site. Thus, this issue is not related to any delay in completing the KYC process. The core issue appears to be that the site is seemingly making it intentionally difficult to process withdrawals, thereby dragging out the process and avoiding payments. This behavior raises concerns about the platform’s reliability and integrity, as it seems to be in bad faith. I urge Betiro to address this matter promptly and make the necessary adjustments to ensure a fair and efficient withdrawal process. Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. https://i.ibb.co/prMwLHv/50k.png (https://ibb.co/84fs7yD) https://i.ibb.co/qC6C19g/500.png (https://ibb.co/T1y1hR0) Dude they did you a favor. Just take out 500 a day and do not bet for 45 days. You end up with pile of cash and you can find another casino 🎰. You made another score because of this. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Smartvirus on June 22, 2024, 11:09:00 PM You should read the ToS first before you start playing especially if you are gambling with a high bankroll. Some casino like the one you mention set a low withdrawal limit due to limited casino bankroll and some reason related to casino finances/AML. You’re obviously not wrong to have said that but, if we are to call a spade a spade, I think it’s very unfair to have a daily withdrawal limit at that range, it’s way too low. That’s what they’ve got in their T&S but, if users really get to realize this, then there would be little to no point playing on that gambling site. $500 mark is just some strategy to keep you in and keep you gambling but, that would be a means to cheat on the customer and put them in a spot where they could lose their money yet again.@OP, it’s what you should mail them about. Too bad it’s not site with Ann thread on the forum but even then, it’s not a question of reputation but, if they could try and be fair with large rang. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: mak013 on June 24, 2024, 07:07:19 AM Dude they did you a favor. Just take out 500 a day and do not bet for 45 days. Lets wait the result. 1.5 month is long enough, they can change limit several times. And i don`t think that it is positive experience. But i think that we can remember this casino and avoid it. You end up with pile of cash and you can find another casino 🎰. You made another score because of this. PS. As for me - $500 is normal daily limit for the common gambler, but casino must increase limits to have an opportunity to withdraw monthly limit. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: panjul07 on June 24, 2024, 07:40:22 AM Dude they did you a favor. Just take out 500 a day and do not bet for 45 days. He will need to wait for more than 1 months due to the monthly withdrawal limit which is €10k per month. What OP can do is to request 5x withdrawal per week €500 each so it wont exceed the daily, weekly and monthly withdrawal limit. This is not a favor for him or for any player who make big deposit, this casino should give an exception for big players if they want to keep their players stay in the casino. Otherwise, they will lose all big players because of their own "too low" withdrawal limit and they may have small-medium players only. Title: Re: Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 24, 2024, 08:02:44 AM Dude they did you a favor. Just take out 500 a day and do not bet for 45 days. He will need to wait for more than 1 months due to the monthly withdrawal limit which is €10k per month. What OP can do is to request 5x withdrawal per week €500 each so it wont exceed the daily, weekly and monthly withdrawal limit. This is not a favor for him or for any player who make big deposit, this casino should give an exception for big players if they want to keep their players stay in the casino. Otherwise, they will lose all big players because of their own "too low" withdrawal limit and they may have small-medium players only. To be honest with you, casinos like this are likely to be a scam, or turn into a scam in the future, once they've managed to have alot of players who's money are trapped in the casino (like they've got op), they may likely close down and never return again. |
