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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

Gambling for fun and entertainment and not for money making is a warning from experienced gamblers that if someone is gambling and looking for money through it, that the person have high probability to lose huge amount of money. It is a warning that you should not use more than the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. Do not think it is a straightforward sentence, it is more like an idiom.

With how casinos have been stepping up their security checks, i'd pass up on the opportunity to cheat because you still have to go through the withdrawal process which can take forever. It's only a matter of time until they find these suspicious activities on your account and reject your withdrawal requests. As one of the gamblers who play for fun, i'm not that desperate to win and it's not always worth losing an account's progress now that most casinos offer different kinds of reward programs.

To be honest, I am not even sure this is a topic which belongs exclusively to the gambling section of the forum, because the moral implications of someone cheating to get money, aka "theft".
I am the kind of gambler which I believe it would be ideal for all of people within this ecosystem to see gambling as a way to get thrill and entertainment, though not all people will resist the temptation. There is a good reason there are so many people out there on the internet seeking to spot fixed matches, after all.

I believe I would resist the temptation, because I would remind myself that most casinos have KYC protocols, which would imply I would get black listed from all the other casinos which also have that system, depending the amount I could even be prosecuted as a criminal and sought after by Interpol. It is better to think on the consequences before doing anything stupid, like stealing.

This thread, as a said, falls more into a philosophical debate on theft and the implications of it.

You can cheat people but never on a gambling platform they have a very sophisticated tool to check if you've been cheating and you are playing fair, this is a profit-driven platform a platform that is susceptible and very tempting for users to cheat so you can get away once but once you experience or tasted you will try to look for another opportunity and that's where you will get caught.

We've seen so many responses coming from casino operators who caught their players cheating in the past and they always take action on it even if that cheating happens a few months, so you can try but your success to come out clean is vague.

Of course, if you are really into money, you will be tempted to cheat just to secure a winning bet but if you know that you really can't do it and are afraid to be caught, you will not do it.
Some people can maintain their integrity and commitment to gambling for fun, while others may find it challenging to resist just for easy money through cheating. This could really depend on some people because some people especially those really in need and willing to cheat just to make money, it's possible.

I don't know how you classify the cheating thought but am certain that it's definitely going to be hard to cheat a casino well the little more that I know you is the arbitrage betting which to some extent of you even look at it, it's not even you cheating the casino rather just being smart with the odd selection and besides it still requires lots of money and risk management buy yet some casino classify it as cheating and even go to the extent of freezing your account with them and all other accounts connect but I guess this is all for people who actually take gambling as something that's part of their business.

I believe that we should strive for such bets that would win without fraud. Our task is to make no doubt about our winnings. Unfortunately, often a casino or (especially) bookmaker organizations question our winnings. Naturally, we carried a loss, no one doubts it. In fact, play honestly - beneficial primarily for ourselves. One of the goals of the game is also to collect high -quality game experience, which is certainly a value. After all, the quality of the user game is determined by his experience and how he systematizes him.

Cheating is pretty much stealing and even if the casino doesn’t notice what you did right away, they will eventually if you continue with your habit and your account will get flagged. There might be some legal problems for you too. These casino owners don’t fuck around. They invested serious money in that business and they want returns. Stealing from them is not the brightest idea. Why can’t people find a job like everyone else if they need money so much smh

I think this isn't anymore a question of whether one gambles for fun or for profit. I think this is already a question of character. Whether one gambles for fun or profit doesn't mean he/she cheats in order to win.

Whichever way you treat gambling; it is immaterial as to whether you cheat or not. It doesn't automatically follow that since a gambler plays for profit he/she would resort to cheating. In the same manner that it also doesn't follow that since you only gamble for fun, you won't cheat. Cheaters cheat. Honest gamblers stay honest.

We don't have to cheat when playing gambling even if we see a way to cheat casino. Casino will knows and that can effect to our account and will close our account immediately. That can makes us lose our fun by playing gambling and we can't accept if that happens to us.

You will difficult to make a profit from gambling and you should already knows about that. Instead of gets a problem because of cheating, we should not do that and playing gambling as usual and enjoy our time. Cheating is cheating as you said and that can gives a problem to us.

If we cheat, our reason for playing gambling will different from before. We can feels that our greediness will increase because our minds will thinks that we can gets more money by cheating the casino. But we don't knows that will makes us getting ban from casino.

I don't want to get into trouble and it's not morally correct. No matter how confident you think you are when you cheat, there is always a chance of getting caught. Besides the fact that the frame from which you ask the question is that of someone who expects too much from gambling. I bet from time to time and with money that I can spare, that if I lose absolutely nothing happens, and therefore the amounts that I can win, although good if I make a 100x for example, are not going to change my life.

Money can be blinding, it will be difficult for a person to resist such a thing.
But let's not take away that there are still more honest people in the world and they might do the right thing if ever they are facing this kind of trouble.

I will. Why? Simply because I don't want any trouble in the future. It could lead to a blacklist, a case that you have knowledge about yet but will only find out once you leave the country or sign up to another gambling site, the Account being banned, an IP ban, and more. So why do it? If there's trouble trying to sneak in, run away from it, don't try to chase the trouble because it will definitely go back to you. Not now, but maybe in the future. Karma is real.
Telling the issue might have some rewards, just do the right thing instead.

It depends on the character of that individual, people that loved to cheat naturally in life or that loves to steal from others to enrich themselves, and people who are not satisfied with what they have, will like to cheat if they have the chance when gambling without thinking twice.

Upright and honest person will not cheat even if he has the access to cheat the casino, because that is not his lifestyle. I don't think that I have thought of cheating when gambling because I use it to entertain myself and I am enjoying the fun so why will I cheat. If I cheat, then it is no longer gambling but stealing, because your win wasn't t real and it was not by your luck.

How do you plan to cheat casino/sports betting platform? Can you find a glitch in the casino and exploit it? Do you bet on fixed matches and you are 100% sure that your bets will end up being profitable? Is that what you mean by "cheating"? Well, good luck with this.
There are stupid gamblers, who think that they could cheat the casino/bookie, but in reality, they are the ones, who got scammed(by the casino/bookie, or by someone else, who is selling them "snake oil" fake cheating methods).
All gamblers are gambling for both fun and greed. The combination of fun and greed varies upon the different people. Some are more greedy than others. I have no illusions about making big money out of gambling. That's why I say that I'm gambling mostly for fun.

Gambling for fun and wanting to make profits are not mutually exclusive. I gamble for fun and yes I want to make profit from it as well, but I do not expect to get rich from gambling and I will not set profit targets I want to make gambling, neither will I stake above my means, I will always use amounts I can afford to lose.

The difference is I watch games I stakes on and never get tense when the outcome is going against me cause I was never fully invested in the potential winnings and I did not stake a significant amount.

That being said, I will not take advantage of an opportunity to cheat the system because of my personal convictions.

- Jay -

Those who gamble for fun seriously don’t care about the profits. They gamble for recreational purposes only. They don’t care about the money; hence, they really don’t care if you offer them fixed games or any means of unfair advantage to win the bet. They just gamble as their hobby and treat the real money as virtual game balance. I can’t exactly relate to how rich people will feel, but yes, cheating and making money isn’t ethically good.

Some days ago I wrote about ethical gambling. It is not every gambler that is desperate for a win. Some of us are actually guided by a moral code of conduct. I believe that if I cheat someone I would be cheated back on it is a circle of life. If I cannot win the right way and instead look for cheat code then I cannot be said to be an ethical gambler who is gambling for fun even though I desire to win.

Anyone who would easily cheat at the slightest opportunity is someone I see that do not have a source of income or livelihood. And that person is going to be a potential candidate of gambling addiction because they want to win by any means possible.

I'm still trying to understand the meaning of cheating that you said in this post, how someone can cheat when the casino has created a certain level of system for their security so that there is no cheating. Even if yes, gradually in the end a gambler who intends to commit fraud will eventually have his account frozen. Honestly, I never thought about it to this level. So, I'm a little doubtful about the cheating you mean.

well, I'll just talk simply. So you see, gambling is nothing more than a fun pastime, but it contains a lot of risks. Before we gamble, we have to prepare funds first so we can play it. The articulation of fun things is to make us play for entertainment, that's the goal, not to get money instantly and quickly. However, because gambling presents possibilities, yes, the possibility of losing or the possibility of winning, in other words, for anything fun there will be cause and effect. because we gamble, and the consequences of our gambling. It's just that the connotation of the meaning of cause and effect is subjective, not always something that is negative or detrimental.
For example, because we gamble, we experience many losses. or vice versa, because we bet, as a result we get a win commensurate with what we bet. In essence, gambling depends on how you define it. Also, gambling will always be our discussion here, yeah because there will always be pros and cons and it will be interesting for us to discuss. as you stated for example, with your assumptions and theories in defining gambling in this thread. So, it all depends on how we understand gambling and our perspective on gambling.

I know myself, and as much as I want to say that I would stay in the straight and narrow, the prospect of getting that guaranteed win will definitely sway me towards cheating and taking advantage of glithces or whatever it is that leads me to gain that advantage. But the thing is that to of course, make sure that the exploit remains up and running for the longest time possible, and to also ensure that the casino does not incur anymore losses from other people who may happen upon my find, I will keep the knowledge of such cheating/exploit to myself. Not even a hint will come out to the people.

I wouldn't call myself a desperate gambler, and frankly speaking you could say the same for a lot of the people here who answered they would succumb to cheating in the prospect of a guaranteed win. It's just that risk-management taught us to always choose the safest option that would yield us the most benefits, and in this situation that was what would yield us the most benefits.

Again, not saying that I'm gonna cheat on my games from now on or whatever, I'm better than that, just saying that if it does come to that point, I might end up cheating on the games.

There's no doubt to the fact that those who gamble for fun mostly engage in gambling as a form of recreational activity and would not want to do anything extra to win but the majority of gamblers would definitely take any cheating opportunity that pops their way since it'll guarantee their winning. Most of the gambling companies will do anything to see their customers lose in all their gambling engagements because that's how they survive and that's why these customers will in return use any cheating measure that'll help them win. Majority of gamblers do engage in gambling because of the financial gains and not because they're doing it for fun.

How can they cheat? typically, in most of the reputable casinos there's a little chance that a gambler can take that chance and opportunity if seen some bugs. But overall, they're not going to happen to the most of us because the casino will still find it out upon checking backlogs if a user has abused their system or not.

Yes, we're all for the profit as we gamble and that's one reason why we do it. Some will say that they're for the fun but are you going to ignore profiting? of course not. But if it's about abusing the system if you have found one, it's unethical.

I'd report it 100% without thinking. I know that winning is hard but it's about your principle when you encounter one and you just want to do the right thing.

That is very true. Cheating on the casino can be of excitements to the gambler but the casinos are always on a watchlist with their smart tool to catch up such cheaters probably going through the gamblers history.

Your approach of gaming attitude can actually call upon the attention of the casino to get your account on investigation which can lead the gambler to be penalized.
I remember a thread in the board the OP talked about his friend winning over 10X in a row, unfortunate for him the casino banned him and the went further to create another account leading to his locked of account and his money for stocked there.

Meanwhile .....I think the casino system detected some malicious interactions of the gambler using cheats which lead to his banning of accounts.

Its situational basis but yes some people can especially if they are protecting their account not to get ban since there are certain milestone or certain ranks that they already achieve. Also if they submit their KYC on particular casino for sure they would not think about cheating.

But there are other people who create new account and find out something like that may think about taking the advantage to win. Greed for money is there so expect that there are people will try their luck to earn something from the casino they are using.

People should think twice before participating this cheating activities since this will not give them any benefits in long run.

It would help if you didn't generalise your findings because you didn't conduct systematic research that can be reified and validated. The majority of gamblers indeed target money but others gamble mainly for fun.  

First cheating is a criminal behaviour. It is wrong to target to cheat a system because you have the opportunity. Your question sounds like will you steal if you can do it? Some members announce in the forum that they have casino insiders who give them leaked games. They sometimes request that members contact them. I have never contacted them because it is fraudulent and criminal.  

Cheating is not asking for help or getting games from friends or professional gamers. If I decide to collect games from people, that's not cheating. Cheating is when you want to exploit the gambling system through illegal means,  

You have to overcome or ignore cheating because if you get away from your first time you will not on the second or third time you eventually get caught and you will lose all the benefits of your account and worse the casino confiscate your balance including your winning.

Once you experience cheating and get away with it you will want more because of the opportunity to make money, you cannot underestimate the casino tracing tool to trace cheating if you think you are wiser, the casinos' tools are sophisticated and you will eventually catch.

It's better to play honestly and not challenge the casino to track you because they can and they will always catch cheaters.

I don't know, but I'm under the impression that anyone is looking to win regardless if you're playing for fun or not. So who knows, when the opportunity presents itself there could be gamblers that's willing to take that risk and cheat even if they know the consequences of it.

Or there could be gamblers that will not do it because their decision is not clouded and they know that if cheat and found out by the casinos, chances are they are going to be ban for good and can't even withdraw the money that they won or at least their initial capital. So it's up to the individual to put the risk into the next level.

Well, it is very tempting but even if I consider myself wanting to earn more than the usual winnings, I can't accept any forms of cheating because I do still believe in karma, I feel that once I cheat on anything, it will be taken back from me in other ways or even more. so even if others say that casinos make a lot of money, it's okay to cheat sometimes? I don't even do it because I'm just afraid that I'll lose more. Above all, I have confidence in my own abilities so there is no need to cheat.

What I do believe here is that even if they are gambling for fun and happiness yet this is about the attitude and character of the person ,
There are some who gambles for fun with a good attitude to never cheat and take advantage of the situation,but for those who have a cheating character?then surely they will take this advantage and maybe try to hit that chance and take home the prize of her cheating.

All I can say is money is money. And one of the reason why you are having fun on gambling is when you are on profit ergo it’s still the same when it comes to earning money. I’m not suggesting that it’s good to cheat but just emphasizing that having profit is one way to be entertained in gambling.

No one is happy when they losing while you probably jumping around if you will win a massive jackpot. The experience of gambling and the profit are both equal when it comes to being source of entertainment in gambling.

When I used to claim to be gambling simply for fun is long gone, I changed this mindset because along the line, and at a period in time, I played some gambling games, slot, casino games and as well as sports betting, and for more than two weeks,  i did not win a dime, I just kept losing each and every time I try, and I felt really bad to be honest, and that was the point I realized that gambling is not really fun when we are not winning, it is the winnings that makes gambling to be fun, most especially for those of us who are still in the category where we need money for alot of things in our lives.

This may be completely different for the very wealthy men and women who have amassed alot of money that they are just looking for ways to spend it, people in this category can sure afford to lose money to gambling over a long period of time and consider themselve having fun, and this is also because, this type of people don't really gamble on online casinos, they in their pairs visit land based casinos to compete with themselve in the game, which is actually what makes their gambling fun for them regardless of the outcome.

So for me, if I had the chance to win a game in a casino by cheating in a way the casino management won't find out, I will gladly do it.

Cheating is never new to gambling and in most cases, its outcome always end up negative. The reason that if you can gamble with all honestly and come out clean, then always prefer to do that. There’s no way that cheating will lead you to its advantage, but it’s always on the opposite side. Although we end up sometimes losing a lot and turn very desperate that push us to resort into cheating, but if we can always stick to what is right from wrong, then I guess it’s the best thing that we should do, not only to protect our own reputation, but also to serve as models especially to beginner gamblers.

Many of us who are advised or not to become addicted to gambling or that gambling is not for making money do we follow that advice? I think not everyone here does the same thing. Everyone has one main objective which is to earn money. But here one can gamble with self control while others are uncontrolled. Those who heed those advices can certainly avoid making big losses. People who take gambling as fun never think of winning by cheat in gambling. Although they have the desire to gain money, they do not try to earn by any dishonest way.

Funny enough this days, you can hardly see an opportunity to cheat the gambling compamies because of how improved their security system is. Most gamblers, gamble to make profit from it, those that gamble for fun only make fun after taking their profit from gambling, because it will no longer be fun to you if you've been losing your bet consistently.
More so, if you claim to gamble for fun, and you see a cheat code to make you win easily, then you shouldn't partake in it, because your not gambling for the money because it's not your priority. The truth is that, the percentage of those that gamble for fun is way lesser than those that gamble for profit making, which makes it highly impossible to know what their response will be if given the opportunity, because those that go for profit making will gladly take the cheat code so they can win more.

I think cheating in gambling is sometimes justified for some people because, honestly, it's hard to win in gambling. So, if someone finds an opportunity to win through cheating, they'll take it for sure. That's why gambling sites have to ensure their systems are secure. In sports betting, the organizers have strict policies to avoid cheating, which is called game-fixing. As we all know, the sanctions are very serious. For example, just this year, there was news that an NBA player suspected of game-fixing was banned from the NBA.

In my opinion, this is not new to casinos. Cheating doesn't only come from gamblers but also from casinos. Both parties make sure they are not cheated, so the real chances of winning will be as expected. Personally, if I could find a way to win by cheating, I think I would not do it, but I might be tempted because I'm just human, like other gamblers.

Fun my ass! Does anyone risk without profit motives?  The basic instinct is hunting. Everyone is an addict; some wear nicer masks. "Desperation" and "contentment" are merely avarice disguised. The thrill of winning is what we seek. We only differ in our willingness to bet time, money, or souls. Cheating? Another tool in the arsenal. Not using it means not playing to win. In life's casino, you're a tourist delighted to lose your pocket change and go home. Real players, who want success, will do anything. The goal is victory, not fun.

Human beings are greedy when it comes to money on which at the moment that you would really be able to see those opportunities specially on having that kind of advantage towards your betting or online gambling then you would really be definitely be diving into that chance and would really be that tending to maximize your profit as much as possible, but we do know that cheating is never been that tolerable. On the moment that you do get caught on having that cheating thing then locked up  funds would really be that next in line on which this is something that casinos or platforms would really be tending to do.There might be some cheating situation or opportunities but come to think that they would really be always that 1 step ahead. Good for you if you do able to get out or secure your profits but we do know that there would be no guarantees.

One things for sure that people would really be that taking up that kind of opportunity at the moment that they would be seeing that chance but of course this is something that very rare to happen.
Even myself would really be definitely be trying out to dive in if i do have that opportunity. Lets be honest on here, on the moment that you've seen that chance then you would definitely be grabbing it.

Some people claim they gamble purely for entertainment. While this can hold true under certain circumstances, particularly when the act of gambling is within sensible limits and a preset budget, the situation changes when a chance to cheat presents itself and potentially doubles the bet amount. At this juncture, what truly defines the gambler is brought into question: his integrity. Yet many still find themselves lured by such prospects, revealing their innate inclination to seek gains when presented with such opportunities.

When a gambler cannot resist cheating to win, it signifies that despite starting off with the aim of enjoyment, there exists a strong inclination towards seeking gains. This underscores that the majority of gamblers harbor, at some level, an intention of profit-making, irrespective of assertions made surrounding gambling purely for amusement. The disparity primarily surfaces in the magnitude and fervor of this profit-driven desire; while some gamblers might be voracious for victory, others find contentment in meager wagers coupled with sporadic triumphs.

Note that people have morals and not everyone would want to cheat any process just because they want to make gains from it. And I don't really think that gambling is done for the purpose of fun. If it's fun, then it's most likely not gambling cause gambling generally means that you've stacked with money hoping to win some cash at the end of the play.

Even if you're not too interested in making money from your gamble and then happens to have an opportunity to gain from it, it's not out of place if you cease such opportunity to your own advantage. Most of the things you see as cheating the process isn't actually cheating in the real sense but rather outsmarting the process. If you device a means to outsmart certain games like the virtual games that allows you to select random numbers or colors based on what's been set out in the system, it's not totally bad and i calculated some of this virtual games to know that they follow certain trends and it's just to try out means that will work out and if it works out then it's okay but if it doesn't work out you don't have a course for alarm.  The fact that you're gambling means that you can actually try somethings out to see if it will eventually work out as planned or not.

I don't think a gambler who thinks he gambles for fun would miss out on an opportunity of cheating the house machine and winning a big amount of money. Isn't that a form of fun to the player. Although the casino is not designed in a way that players could earn or gain profits through a cheat code of any type. The machine can malfunction, and a player would be able to win through its breakdown. Other than that, fun players are not to be seen as people who don't care about winning at all. What's actually the point of being a gambler?

The whole concept of fun gambling, is to not let ourselves be carried away from making the funds. It's probably nice to win in gambling. Nothing makes the fun gamblers different from other players, other than the fact that they're not deeply concerned about the wins. Unlike players who wouldn't stop even when they're tired, fun gamblers utilize appropriately their gambling opportunity to benefit them on the long run. In terms of being responsible and not let themselves down, regarding the actions or misfortunes addiction could cause the player.

I believe that such behaviour is owed to human nature of greediness. Hence, if an opportunity presents, he will grab it to his advantage. However, cheating is only easy to commit if the gambler is already used to such practice. Because if you are not doing it in regular basis, your conscience will tell you not to do. As just thinking that you will cheat somebody will make you uneasy, that is, if you are not used to this activity.

On my end, I haven't done such act as I don't want the casino to give them any reason to ban or freeze my account. Also, it is like you are always looking over your shoulder if you happen to think that you are about to cheat the casino. And in addition, do you really think casinos don't have algo or security features that will allow their players to just screw them?

Cheating is for losers.

Cheating just to win is not a win at all, I can't even imagine myself celebrating a win because I cheated. There's no thrill or challenge in anything if cheating is in your choices. Karma is always waiting for those kind of people who always cheat just to experience winning in gambling or even in general. If you can't make money in a certain profession or a career, just find another one, don't change yourself into a rotten one just because of cheating.

Well yes, you answered it already; they're after more entertainment than profit therefore there is a bigger tendency for them to resist and just gamble the 'right way' even if they are given the opportunity to cheat or win easily. However, actual scenario will depend on what type og an individual you are. As we all know some people gives importance to their pride of not cheating while some would be preferring to take the elevator rather than walk on stairs. It simply depends on you as an individual because every people is unique from one another ven if there are shared traits such as driven to make money no matter what way they will be using. I might be wrong as well on this 'coz only the time could tell whether I would be behaving in such way if this will be ever happening to me. But if it is with my present mindset then I'd probably pass on this opportunity. Why?

I have experienced losing big amounts and saw people cried over their losses in gambling just because they fought fairly. Taking an expressway won't give justice to those gamble fate and might as well discredit the feeling when I won without cheating. Some might say it is easier to talk and I'm aware of that. Again, only time and situation could tell, for each and every one of us.

          -   If you mean that you are a gambler and you have the ability to cheat in a casino to get a big profit, I think most casinos don't want that, and most of the time they trace it. And in what way, I don't know. But I'm sure most casinos know that.

That's why sometimes there are some players who make a complaint to a casino that they can't release their winning prize, and suddenly the casino shuts them down without them knowing. Later,  it will be known that the casino traced that something suspicious happened there with the game provider they played with, and there is also a chance that the casino is the one committing fraud on the users of their gambling platform.

I see a simple difference between when someone goes to the casino for the sole aim of gambling to make profit and when another person goes to the casino because she or he wants to have fun but has a low expectation of making profit. Some people, even when they go to the casino, want to make sure they win, and if they don't, they can lose all their money or even collect a loan to gamble, while for a gambler who doesn't have a primary interest just for profit-making, the person will always set a budget amount to spend, and when they are done, they will leave. It doesn't matter to them whether they win anything or not but if they are lucky to Win, they will rejoice because it add more source to the fun.

Between these two sets of people, if anyone of them sees the opportunity to win their bet at the casino, they will definitely make use of such an opportunity, and the reason is because every human being loves the joy that is derived from winning a reward. 

For example, some people are going to school so that they can be academically sound, while others are going to school because they want to use the certificate to get a job, they all have the same primary desire to go to school but for different goals. 

I always play for fun, see how I have behaved when it comes to gambling: I only place sports bets, I only place bets on big league games or on games like the World Cup, Euro, European League, Champions League Europeans, conference league, and African games when you qualify for the World Cup or the African Nations Championship. but I make few bets, something like a multibet or one or 2 games in each event, sometimes I have gone 2 or more weeks without making any bets, so I have maintained my self control and I don't think about betting to make a profit

Let's be honest, does anyone still really believe that they can put money into gambling and that after some time that same money will become a lot of money? Does anyone still deceive or deceive themselves like this? I hope that people who have been playing for some time have already realized the harsh reality that they did not make a profit playing, but rather they should focus on playing to have fun, for this they should put money that they can afford to lose and when they play Don't have expectations that that money will increase. no. they must think that the money they are throwing is lost money

stories like these:


source: https://www.tbnewswatch.com/sponsored-content/the-five-biggest-casino-winners-in-history-8046210

shows that when people are well off financially and play for fun, they can play with a lot of money that even if they lose, it won't destroy their lives, it won't make them get depressed and commit suicide. and when they are lucky enough to win a lot of money, they will celebrate. It's important to play for fun

When the two person enter the casino then a change can be noticed between the two. People who rush to win at casinos are very excited about their gambling, and those who go just for fun have excitement but that would be different. A person who is in a hurry to win gambling will lose more. At some point you can take out a loan or use more money in some other way. He cannot be withdrawn from it until all his money is gone, but in the person who goes into gambling only for enjoyment, there is a steady state in him, even if the desire to win is under control. But if a gambler gets an opportunity, to get everyone will try to take advantage of the opportunity. Because they think they won't get that chance again. Among gamblers almost everyone has the desire to get more money.

Well, for sure, for other gamblers, if there is an opportunity for them to cheat in order to win a huge amount of money, they will think twice and hesitate, but at the same time, they will cheat because they know they can earn. But in the bigger picture, if you choose to cheat, what will it cost eventually? Your account and your identity, of course, are KYCs, so if someone is caught cheating, the authorities of a casino will not be quiet and expect that they will sue that gambler or person. So for me, I would rather not win than rely on cheating because I know it will have a huge impact on me, and of course it will be the worst case when someone is caught cheating. So cheating is the last thing I would do, because I know the consequences and I think in the bigger picture not the shorr term pleasure.

Even gamblers who are gambling for fun wouldn't want to let go of an opportunity to getting an extra cash from the casino because it's also part of the fun too aswell, getting and extra cash resulting from your stake is another way of having fun too, because if you end up winning the game you because glad you did made the right pick which I find fun too aswell, the fun hits differently when you are rewarded for coming to have fun and that's the fun highlight of gambling.

If the purpose of gambling is to make money then utilizing the opportunity isn't a bad idea because naturally the casino games always comes with the house edge, having the advantage over the players and for the players opportunity as such comes once in awhile a s not too often but with the casino, they are always having the house edge over the players, so for the players every opportunity should be used to its fullest.

Personally, I don't like fraud in any form or form. As a matter of principle, I am not going to use fraudulent schemes to make a profit, because this is secondary to me, and the main thing is cleanliness, transparency and the absence of deception. Regarding bets and gambling games, some may say that you need to use any methods to win, including fraudulent ones. I want to warn and advise such players to think better, because they are taking a big risk that will not pay off.

In my opinion, it is best to look for different strategies and try them to get closer to winning, because when we manage to earn money with our minds, this will be the apogee and pinnacle of our superiority. I would say that such people exist, although there are not very many of them.

Winning feels way better when you’ve genuinely earned it, right? It's like the difference between acing a test because you studied hard and acing it because you sneaked a peek at the answers. Using your own skills and knowledge—whether it’s reading people in poker, knowing the odds, or just making smart decisions—feels like solving a puzzle. Each move you make is part of the excitement.
Cheating skips all the fun and robs you of the real satisfaction of winning. It's like taking a shortcut in a race; you might finish first, but did you really win? Plus, people around here value honesty and fair play. Playing fair helps make the community enjoyable for everyone. The journey is just as important as the destination, and cheating is a pretty lame shortcut.

Nah, because I did it many times before but now I am not that active in gambling anymore since I have priorities. I call it greed when we cheat in gambling because you are gonna chase your losses just to get your money back or make gains. A lot of gamblers usually do this thing but I doubt if they are responsible right now it could be that they did it in the past as well.

What do you mean by "cheating opportunity" in gambling? Is there any cheating opportunity where a gambler can always win? I don't have any idea about it and even if it exists, it is not popular, otherwise there would be many who won't cheating but only focus on winning the games no matter how.


The gambling casino have enough security checks and algorithms to check if there is any suspicions activity and if one is detected than for sure they will deny the withdrawal.
Even i am not sure that if any gambler found a loop hole in the gambling site, it can't be long lasting because as soon as the gambler wins more than usual or make a big withdrawal, the gambling site algorithms will alarms and eventually the casino will held the account or withdrawals. for more investigations.

I have never been tempted to try to cheat in any way in a casino, I rely on my ability and my own luck... I think all of us here have seen a lot of different offers on the internet, people trying to sell their cheat codes (or whatever), I just close those windows & ignore such people who make these kinds of offers.

We all wish to make a profit from gambling, but those who cheat on anyway are simply scammers and they will try to exploit whatever service they find vulnerable. I am a fair player and I don't like this kind of people. They are ruining the good experience for all of us.

In an overview every gamblers are chasing same goals which is winning but not all that are gambling to make profits. So certainly, the rest gambling on the goal to win are the entertainment players which they could still derive fun even after loosing and those gambling to make profits are curious to win and are usually emotionally imbalanced when they losses.

Most definitely by gambling for fun, you can let go your lost and can not afford undertaking any means that might be or against the casino policies which could be as a result of cheating while those gambling to make profits with all desperations are liable to nevermind breaking the rules. However, the result awaiting such profit chasers as an implications of using cheats is an express way to their addictions.

There aren't as many sure bets reslly. If they exist for even a second then someone jumps on and sweeps the extra odds for ptofiit. Now thinking about it, it's not realistic to expect gambling for profit because it's rather obvious that casinos need to make profit on betting also. In fact if you calculate the house edge with the same method on sprouts bets, the edge for the casino is even higher. Well, it's a weird fact but many people ignore it.

As of actual cheating, an ethical penetration tester would disclose the blissue if it's exploitable. Casinos should create incentives for those funding critical bugs to get rewarded. This way it's easier to make some easy clean money ethically, rather that the casino losing thousands.

Absolutely right, this feeling is one of the most pleasant when we win in a fair game. But I understand where it comes from to win at any cost and in spite of everything from other players. The fact is that in modern society, capitalism with money and success come first, and many are ready to do anything for this, even fraud. I especially began to notice this among young people, sometimes even I begin to wonder what will happen next if everyone, for their own benefit, deceives other people.

Also as for me and achievements, development and winnings in an honest way, this process will become interesting over time, you just need to try a few times. This applies not only to gambling, but also to other areas of life, even in raising children, this approach will even help build a more positive and constructive society.

Gamblers who say they gamble for "fun" are lying. We all adore the excitement, atmosphere, and thrill of the chase, but we also want to win. Human nature. Primal instinct. That emotion is linked to gambling. Can a "fun gambler" not cheat? Maybe. But he temptation is huge. Staying on track when easy money is beckoning demands willpower. I know how to win.

Cheating goes beyond breaching regulations. Showing disdain to the game. Being disrespectful to other players. About taking the easy way out. Thats not how winners work. Can a "fun gambler" not cheat? Maybe. But its a slippery slope. Its human nature. Our true colors show when the stakes are high. Remember, honest winners win. Cheaters cheat themselves.

When I was a child, I couldn't ignore the temptation to cheat to secure a bet. It was a long time ago, just children's games, but there was also money involved if you managed to beat someone and they had to buy it. I also cheated in gambling when my playmates were my friends, because of the temptation to win money. But now that I am older and have enough sense to do what is right, I no longer cheat.

However, in online casinos, it seems almost impossible to cheat. Now, who genuinely view it as a form of entertainment, the joy comes from the experience itself rather than the outcome.

You misunderstand the concept of entertainment. There is a casino and there is a game, but if you see outright fraud, then I think any person will be against being deceived. You don't agree to be called a fool, do you?
Everyone doesn't like cheating.
But the point is different. It's a matter of reaction. Someone plays and loses, and that’s it. He doesn’t create drama, realizing that this is a game. But there is someone who believes that only he should win. And this is the sick reaction of a person who does not know how to lose. The funny thing is that those who easily lose today will often win more tomorrow than those who believe that casino money should belong only to them.

This could be a trap that backfires and could my account banned so it is not worth it, especially if you are a long-time player of the casino and have earned achievements, even if you get away the first time, I don't think you can on the second or the third time, you will eventually get caught.
Even those who are good in cheating are caught, its better just to rely on your skill and don't try or challenge the casino checking tool if they can catch you on your cheating.

The question is can you actually cheat a casino? Or what kind of cheating do you mean? Casinos have a way to track if a scammer is trying to break into their system and such customer will be punished afterall either by refusing to release their fund for violation and or by banning them from the account. So I don't see cheating a casino as what is easy to do or to cheat on your game that you are betting on. I don't see cheating in casino betting because if you try to break the security, you will be caught .

even when there is a chance where i can cheat to get a win, but i don't know for sure whether the opportunity needs to be taken or not. because usually online casinos have good monitoring on their platforms, and every withdrawal will be monitored by them. if they find something suspicious in my game history and say that i am cheating, it might result in the cancellation of my withdrawal or worse my account being terminated by them. and i don't want to take risks like that, so i prefer to play it safe.

This is what i want to say on which it would really be that almost 0% chance that there would really be some exploits because if we do ask about cheating on technical aspects or approach then these platforms had already tested out their site before they would really be launching into the public. Although there's no such thing about perfect security but we do know that it would be that hard if we do speak about this manner. If we do talk about cheating on bonuses and other correlated things then good thing if  you could be able to bypass their withdrawal. We do know that they would really be that having that close monitor when it comes to cheats and this is why it would really be that unlikely that you could really be able to get out.

This can also be called hypocrisy, indeed I admit that even though I gamble for fun, I also feel very happy if I end up winning gambling despite my enjoyment, but that doesn't mean I'm not happy if I lose, I can also accept it, but it's different if I win. which I feel is twice as happy, if I am offered the opportunity to cheat at gambling, I will probably accept it because all this time we have also been cheated by bookies, most of which are arranged by the bookies so that we experience losses more often than we win and The house's chances are greater than the user's, therefore we will not be able to beat the gambling house.

Maybe with the opportunity to cheat we can win at gambling and it won't affect the gambling house even if we cheat, I'm not a hypocrite when that opportunity can be profitable maybe I will take it and consider it as fun and a bonus that I get through gambling and that will also make we have fun and will feel more pleasure than if we only feel ordinary pleasure because we lose, it's better to feel extraordinary pleasure because we win ;D

I think you are misunderstanding the whole concept here, because inasmuch as these type of gambler can not resist an opportunity given to them which may likely increase their fund/stake, I will still also state that their is still a big difference between these two types of gamblers. Because while those who gamble for fun may bet and lose and will still not be disturbed about their loses, simply because they have it in abundance, those who gamble for profit will always get disturbed whenever they lose a game weather they have it either in abundance or not.

It is wrong and unethical to cheat, be it in a casino or in any other platform/place; it does not matter why you gamble, even if you think you are not gambling for fun, it does not give you the right to cheat. Gambling for fun means you know you are not trying to get rich through gambling and thus you are not going to do anything crazy, it does not mean the person does not care about their winnings, they do, but they aren't going to gambling with a crazy amount of money.

What kind of cheating do you mean?

If my friend is a professional gambler and he bet in my account, will you count it as a cheating? because the person behind my account is not me, but my friend. The casino terms always state if one person only able to own one account.

And @OP, do you know what make it interesting? some people can treat cheating as fun thing to do, so they cheat to get fun. ;)

When a money is involved in a discussion, everyone will say their mind but they might do the opposite when they have the chance. Gambling is sometimes that is very difficult for everyone that's why I'm skeptical If everyone would do the same as they said. People wouldn't even tell the casino about such bug from casino because they would think they are luckiest and it's probably just another regular day in casino to win money.

However, when you are financially discipline and well behave, even if you have not tasted some amount of money before in your life, you will never be move by anything that invokes money, even though you are been offer money to cheat or do something that is illegal, you will be oblige and say no but if you are not financially discipline and you see a money that is even less than what you have saw before in your past, you wouldn't be able to resist the temptation.

Cheating never leads to anything good because karma is going to bite back really hard so I'm not sure how you can justify cheating i be good in any situation, maybe if you're held hostage or something and the condition is for you to cheat but that's it. As much as I like to hate on gambling for being such a rigged system that's designed to be taking more from you rather than giving out to you, I'd like to keep my integrity and dignity intact. I know that it might sound weird to anyone because most reactions when you can cheat and get away with it, you'd take the opportunity but think about this, why let your base instincts take over whatever's making you a human.

Plus, any cheating would easily be observed when investigated, most of the time, when you cheat, you tend to make it a thing where you get greedy and when you get greedy, you will slip up and make mistakes and those mistakes would lead you to being detected as a cheater.

I will not cheat. I dislike individual that cheat irrespective of the area of activity. One thing for sure I cannot speak for anyone neither do the write up of individuals reveal there true intentions.

I believe every gambler have underlining intention of making money while accepting the pill that it is for fun. Every gambler risk and also expect a return from the odds of the game, so for fun I do not know or for money either, till then we know, nobody will reveal there true intention in a public space especially when it calls for something ungodly.

I think it depends on one's moral values more than the fact whether they gamble for fun or profits because cheating is a different matter altogether. Even if you gamble for profits and have high moral values, you wouldn't cheat and if you find a bug or something, you might inform the management to get it fixed instead of misusing it and earning money from it. Similarly, someone who gambles for fun but has no moral values wouldn't bother misusing a glitch or something to get some money.

So, according to me, it doesn't have anything to do with the intention one has for gambling and it is more like a thing of the person having a good nature and being a good human being. A person with a good heart and a good upbringing wouldn't do something like that at any cost.

Honestly it is easy for us to say that we wouldn't do it or would report it, but would you really let it pass?
If I am going to be honest here I would surely take the opportunity to get something from it, I wouldn't be hypocrite and claims that I wouldn't take advantages of it because if opportunity arise I am sure there would be a lot of people who would also do it, and surely some of those who claims that they would report or wouldn't use the cheat would envy those who are online at the time and gain something from it

Let's put gambling aside. If you, as an investor, are given the opportunity to cheat on a particular project to have your way, maybe you will be able to see or grab some more shares than you paid for, and in return, you will be paid a much higher profit than what could have been your profit based on your early investment. What will you do? 
 
This question is not just to be channelled into gambling alone; it's a matter of self-discipline, what you stand for, and what you could do.
 
A lot of us here might say that we won't take such a step but dip down; if we are found in that position, we will do just the opposite. Considering the fact that casinos and gambling companies have enough money to pay you and won't even fold down, you might hesitate in the beginning, but you might end up doing it anyway.

Well there is arbitrage betting, although I don't know how this is actually done but I believe the casino themselves don't like this type of betting as they class it as cheating and even ban accounts that are tied to this method of betting. I have heard from many people that the arbitrage betting is very lucrative but it's very hard to start up as it requires huge amount of funds to do it but all the same the results to be gotten from it is very certain.

I agree with your explanation, that word people use in gambling that "it is for fun" mean that one can not take gambling as a work hence your chances of loss is more always often than win. This implies that you are gambling for money that you are not sure of getting, but just trying to get it, and you may keep trying and trying yet no possibility so it indirectly becomes a fun which is true.

Most of the people think gambling is for fun for the gambling owner is a business that generates profit for the lucky guy it is a Jackpot filled with bunch of money for the loser is wasting a time haha this is my opinion.

Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability and Can you ignore/resist cheating to secure a winning bet?
My real question here is how we do cheating in gambling I mean is it possible if so don't you think all people are gonna rich soon and gamble is going become unprofitable business

Gambling is fun and all but the temptation to cheat the system is too big and the reward is just too big to ignore, maybe if I know that I'm going to get away with it then probably I'd go for it but given that most casinos have the skills to analyze anomalies, probably a better thing to not do it no matter, most casinos are like the tax bureau, they will not let go of their own money unless needed and they will hunt the people that have stolen from them or tried to cheat them, either they fail catching or they lose all the resources to catch you, my point is that they won't stop.

With the huge number of people involved in gambling, I think there will be that bettor who are like that, who don't mind the profits. Most of the times they are rich person already, so money is not their concern anymore but it is on how to use them.

Between desperation and contentment, I think it was contentment is the ones who are being disguised by many bettors because they will always find their selves in the casino later on. In gambling, it requires time and money but soul? I think it's too serious but maybe the ones who are doing this are those who are too deep already in the said activity. The same thing goes to those who cheat.

Well, I wouldn't say that but rather will say that any gambler that has it in mind that they are just there to chase for profits amounting to big wins or those that their 100% reason for being at the casino is to multiply their income, they can only get disappointed and depressed when they have lost more than they can handle. For someone who is just gambling with a neutral motive, they will not bother too much about losses, and they will not chase losses like those whose idea is just to make profit by any means that they can. Those gamblers with neutral motive of gambling for fun and a slim expectation of profit
will not take loan to gamble because they will hardly get addicted.

I have always said that no one forbids winning in gambling; even those people who are gambling for fun are also interested in winning, but they don't get so radical like the true gambler, who will do anything to win.

Absolutely you have also made a point to be considered otherwise, Indeed the bookies can not even do sincere enough to say that they have not been cheating on gambling by the programming nature in their gaming sites.

That is why most at times, when a gambling site is newly launched, they comes with a marketing strategies of easy winning in their platforms then, once they have gained massive dominants, they began to reprogram their system trickishly.

That is absolutely cheating on their side. They at times assumes when one wins and when one looses but if you ask me @klidex, I would say it is not enough reason for a gambler who is gaming for fun to cheat. You just have to think otherwise that the gambling and casino sites are at more legal advantage than you on such cheating terrains so staying clean and enjoy your game and if winning meets you luckily somedays then you just accept it on anyway.

I will firstly consider the possibility of being caught and what could be the possible penalty if am caught where if it's what I can handle I will gladly cheat to secure the winning and count it as my lucky day, probably I have lost some other time and can't afford to miss such opportunity of maximizing the feeling that comes with winning, gambling is a game and anything game is pron to cheating. Winning which ever way it happens it is still going to be called winning and it boost confidence and make the game more fun. Me I will personally cheat I know so other user might say the otherwise but however any can do whatever they like.

I think there are truly people who are kind and honest, and they will be consistent at it no matter what. So yeah, they will let it pass. Sure they can earn huge and easy money in here but that won't let them sleep at night. For them, it doesn't matter even if they only have a small amount but what important is the peace of mind, and sticking to their principles as a good person. As for you and others, go on.

Those people that I said earlier can sometimes won't report you because they don't want to get in trouble and they will only let the authorities do their thing. They also believe on the bad karma and this is the ones that will punish the bad people.

I believe most of the gambler will be tempted to use this method to get profit as long as this method is 100% guaranteed that you will not be caught. The problem on cheating against the casino especially if you are KYC was you might get banned personally including your IP on the casino and to other casino which they are connected.

There’s a lot of potential repercussions involved once you caught cheating that will make you unable to do online gambling normally. But if there will be a hypothetical method then many gamblers will surely try this for the profit.

Cheating in programmed games is more subtle. Controlling the system, shifting the scales. How is that different from the house's default advantage? Deception may not be in programming but in our expectations. Although we hope for a fair opportunity, the chances are always against us. Our perspective needs to change, but we should still play. Gambling is entertainment, a game of chance where the house always wins. Admitting this allows us to play with detachment, experiencing the thrill without the illusion of control

Well the thing is that most people don't see gambling as something fun, they see it as the only opportunity to place bets to multiply their money to the Maximum, and that vision is not bad, you just have to be a little more Realistic , things in casinos are not as easy as people think, there is much more, however whenever we Emphasize how to determine the best way to play it ends up accepting that the highest probability of a person winning in a casino is proportional to their luck, however people try it because many like to feel that adrenaline, that adrenaline and if they are Going to win money then much more.

For this two class of gamblers that you have mentioned, that's between those that see gambling as fun activity and those that see gambling as an opportunity to make a living, they can not ignore to cease any winning opportunity they see, even if it means cheating the casino to win. The only gambler that will ignore the cheating opportunity is those gambler that has dignity and have an exceptional good character and they want to do the right thing at all time even if they are losing.