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June 03, 2024, 01:26:41 PM
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Some people claim they gamble purely for entertainment. While this can hold true under certain circumstances, particularly when the act of gambling is within sensible limits and a preset budget, the situation changes when a chance to cheat presents itself and potentially doubles the bet amount. At this juncture, what truly defines the gambler is brought into question: his integrity. Yet many still find themselves lured by such prospects, revealing their innate inclination to seek gains when presented with such opportunities.

When a gambler cannot resist cheating to win, it signifies that despite starting off with the aim of enjoyment, there exists a strong inclination towards seeking gains. This underscores that the majority of gamblers harbor, at some level, an intention of profit-making, irrespective of assertions made surrounding gambling purely for amusement. The disparity primarily surfaces in the magnitude and fervor of this profit-driven desire; while some gamblers might be voracious for victory, others find contentment in meager wagers coupled with sporadic triumphs.

I believe that such behaviour is owed to human nature of greediness. Hence, if an opportunity presents, he will grab it to his advantage. However, cheating is only easy to commit if the gambler is already used to such practice. Because if you are not doing it in regular basis, your conscience will tell you not to do. As just thinking that you will cheat somebody will make you uneasy, that is, if you are not used to this activity.

On my end, I haven't done such act as I don't want the casino to give them any reason to ban or freeze my account. Also, it is like you are always looking over your shoulder if you happen to think that you are about to cheat the casino. And in addition, do you really think casinos don't have algo or security features that will allow their players to just screw them?

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June 03, 2024, 01:30:37 PM
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Cheating is for losers.

Cheating just to win is not a win at all, I can't even imagine myself celebrating a win because I cheated. There's no thrill or challenge in anything if cheating is in your choices. Karma is always waiting for those kind of people who always cheat just to experience winning in gambling or even in general. If you can't make money in a certain profession or a career, just find another one, don't change yourself into a rotten one just because of cheating.
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June 03, 2024, 01:33:46 PM
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability
Well yes, you answered it already; they're after more entertainment than profit therefore there is a bigger tendency for them to resist and just gamble the 'right way' even if they are given the opportunity to cheat or win easily. However, actual scenario will depend on what type og an individual you are. As we all know some people gives importance to their pride of not cheating while some would be preferring to take the elevator rather than walk on stairs. It simply depends on you as an individual because every people is unique from one another ven if there are shared traits such as driven to make money no matter what way they will be using. I might be wrong as well on this 'coz only the time could tell whether I would be behaving in such way if this will be ever happening to me. But if it is with my present mindset then I'd probably pass on this opportunity. Why?

I have experienced losing big amounts and saw people cried over their losses in gambling just because they fought fairly. Taking an expressway won't give justice to those gamble fate and might as well discredit the feeling when I won without cheating. Some might say it is easier to talk and I'm aware of that. Again, only time and situation could tell, for each and every one of us.

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June 03, 2024, 01:52:35 PM
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          -   If you mean that you are a gambler and you have the ability to cheat in a casino to get a big profit, I think most casinos don't want that, and most of the time they trace it. And in what way, I don't know. But I'm sure most casinos know that.

That's why sometimes there are some players who make a complaint to a casino that they can't release their winning prize, and suddenly the casino shuts them down without them knowing. Later,  it will be known that the casino traced that something suspicious happened there with the game provider they played with, and there is also a chance that the casino is the one committing fraud on the users of their gambling platform.

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June 03, 2024, 02:06:34 PM
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I see a simple difference between when someone goes to the casino for the sole aim of gambling to make profit and when another person goes to the casino because she or he wants to have fun but has a low expectation of making profit. Some people, even when they go to the casino, want to make sure they win, and if they don't, they can lose all their money or even collect a loan to gamble, while for a gambler who doesn't have a primary interest just for profit-making, the person will always set a budget amount to spend, and when they are done, they will leave. It doesn't matter to them whether they win anything or not but if they are lucky to Win, they will rejoice because it add more source to the fun.

Between these two sets of people, if anyone of them sees the opportunity to win their bet at the casino, they will definitely make use of such an opportunity, and the reason is because every human being loves the joy that is derived from winning a reward. 

For example, some people are going to school so that they can be academically sound, while others are going to school because they want to use the certificate to get a job, they all have the same primary desire to go to school but for different goals. 

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June 03, 2024, 02:33:02 PM
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I always play for fun, see how I have behaved when it comes to gambling: I only place sports bets, I only place bets on big league games or on games like the World Cup, Euro, European League, Champions League Europeans, conference league, and African games when you qualify for the World Cup or the African Nations Championship. but I make few bets, something like a multibet or one or 2 games in each event, sometimes I have gone 2 or more weeks without making any bets, so I have maintained my self control and I don't think about betting to make a profit

Let's be honest, does anyone still really believe that they can put money into gambling and that after some time that same money will become a lot of money? Does anyone still deceive or deceive themselves like this? I hope that people who have been playing for some time have already realized the harsh reality that they did not make a profit playing, but rather they should focus on playing to have fun, for this they should put money that they can afford to lose and when they play Don't have expectations that that money will increase. no. they must think that the money they are throwing is lost money

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According to reports, even the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and around the world were wary of hosting Packer because his wins and losses could significantly influence their finances. He proved this in 1997 when he reportedly won up to $40 million at the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas. Some sources claim that he won that by playing six blackjack hands at a time and staking $200,000 per hand!

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June 03, 2024, 02:34:28 PM
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I see a simple difference between when someone goes to the casino for the sole aim of gambling to make profit and when another person goes to the casino because she or he wants to have fun but has a low expectation of making profit. Some people, even when they go to the casino, want to make sure they win, and if they don't, they can lose all their money or even collect a loan to gamble, while for a gambler who doesn't have a primary interest just for profit-making, the person will always set a budget amount to spend, and when they are done, they will leave. It doesn't matter to them whether they win anything or not but if they are lucky to Win, they will rejoice because it add more source to the fun.

Between these two sets of people, if anyone of them sees the opportunity to win their bet at the casino, they will definitely make use of such an opportunity, and the reason is because every human being loves the joy that is derived from winning a reward. 

For example, some people are going to school so that they can be academically sound, while others are going to school because they want to use the certificate to get a job, they all have the same primary desire to go to school but for different goals. 
When the two person enter the casino then a change can be noticed between the two. People who rush to win at casinos are very excited about their gambling, and those who go just for fun have excitement but that would be different. A person who is in a hurry to win gambling will lose more. At some point you can take out a loan or use more money in some other way. He cannot be withdrawn from it until all his money is gone, but in the person who goes into gambling only for enjoyment, there is a steady state in him, even if the desire to win is under control. But if a gambler gets an opportunity, to get everyone will try to take advantage of the opportunity. Because they think they won't get that chance again. Among gamblers almost everyone has the desire to get more money.

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Well, for sure, for other gamblers, if there is an opportunity for them to cheat in order to win a huge amount of money, they will think twice and hesitate, but at the same time, they will cheat because they know they can earn. But in the bigger picture, if you choose to cheat, what will it cost eventually? Your account and your identity, of course, are KYCs, so if someone is caught cheating, the authorities of a casino will not be quiet and expect that they will sue that gambler or person. So for me, I would rather not win than rely on cheating because I know it will have a huge impact on me, and of course it will be the worst case when someone is caught cheating. So cheating is the last thing I would do, because I know the consequences and I think in the bigger picture not the shorr term pleasure.

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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability
Even gamblers who are gambling for fun wouldn't want to let go of an opportunity to getting an extra cash from the casino because it's also part of the fun too aswell, getting and extra cash resulting from your stake is another way of having fun too, because if you end up winning the game you because glad you did made the right pick which I find fun too aswell, the fun hits differently when you are rewarded for coming to have fun and that's the fun highlight of gambling.

If the purpose of gambling is to make money then utilizing the opportunity isn't a bad idea because naturally the casino games always comes with the house edge, having the advantage over the players and for the players opportunity as such comes once in awhile a s not too often but with the casino, they are always having the house edge over the players, so for the players every opportunity should be used to its fullest.

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Personally, I don't like fraud in any form or form. As a matter of principle, I am not going to use fraudulent schemes to make a profit, because this is secondary to me, and the main thing is cleanliness, transparency and the absence of deception. Regarding bets and gambling games, some may say that you need to use any methods to win, including fraudulent ones. I want to warn and advise such players to think better, because they are taking a big risk that will not pay off.

In my opinion, it is best to look for different strategies and try them to get closer to winning, because when we manage to earn money with our minds, this will be the apogee and pinnacle of our superiority. I would say that such people exist, although there are not very many of them.

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Personally, I don't like fraud in any form or form. As a matter of principle, I am not going to use fraudulent schemes to make a profit, because this is secondary to me, and the main thing is cleanliness, transparency and the absence of deception. Regarding bets and gambling games, some may say that you need to use any methods to win, including fraudulent ones. I want to warn and advise such players to think better, because they are taking a big risk that will not pay off.

In my opinion, it is best to look for different strategies and try them to get closer to winning, because when we manage to earn money with our minds, this will be the apogee and pinnacle of our superiority. I would say that such people exist, although there are not very many of them.
Winning feels way better when you’ve genuinely earned it, right? It's like the difference between acing a test because you studied hard and acing it because you sneaked a peek at the answers. Using your own skills and knowledge—whether it’s reading people in poker, knowing the odds, or just making smart decisions—feels like solving a puzzle. Each move you make is part of the excitement.
Cheating skips all the fun and robs you of the real satisfaction of winning. It's like taking a shortcut in a race; you might finish first, but did you really win? Plus, people around here value honesty and fair play. Playing fair helps make the community enjoyable for everyone. The journey is just as important as the destination, and cheating is a pretty lame shortcut.
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Nah, because I did it many times before but now I am not that active in gambling anymore since I have priorities. I call it greed when we cheat in gambling because you are gonna chase your losses just to get your money back or make gains. A lot of gamblers usually do this thing but I doubt if they are responsible right now it could be that they did it in the past as well.



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June 03, 2024, 03:59:09 PM
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.
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Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

What do you mean by "cheating opportunity" in gambling? Is there any cheating opportunity where a gambler can always win? I don't have any idea about it and even if it exists, it is not popular, otherwise there would be many who won't cheating but only focus on winning the games no matter how.

With how casinos have been stepping up their security checks, i'd pass up on the opportunity to cheat because you still have to go through the withdrawal process which can take forever. It's only a matter of time until they find these suspicious activities on your account and reject your withdrawal requests. As one of the gamblers who play for fun, i'm not that desperate to win and it's not always worth losing an account's progress now that most casinos offer different kinds of reward programs.

The gambling casino have enough security checks and algorithms to check if there is any suspicions activity and if one is detected than for sure they will deny the withdrawal.
Even i am not sure that if any gambler found a loop hole in the gambling site, it can't be long lasting because as soon as the gambler wins more than usual or make a big withdrawal, the gambling site algorithms will alarms and eventually the casino will held the account or withdrawals. for more investigations.

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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunities and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

I have never been tempted to try to cheat in any way in a casino, I rely on my ability and my own luck... I think all of us here have seen a lot of different offers on the internet, people trying to sell their cheat codes (or whatever), I just close those windows & ignore such people who make these kinds of offers.

We all wish to make a profit from gambling, but those who cheat on anyway are simply scammers and they will try to exploit whatever service they find vulnerable. I am a fair player and I don't like this kind of people. They are ruining the good experience for all of us.

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June 03, 2024, 04:36:31 PM
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Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?
Some days ago I wrote about ethical gambling. It is not every gambler that is desperate for a win. Some of us are actually guided by a moral code of conduct. I believe that if I cheat someone I would be cheated back on it is a circle of life. If I cannot win the right way and instead look for cheat code then I cannot be said to be an ethical gambler who is gambling for fun even though I desire to win.

Anyone who would easily cheat at the slightest opportunity is someone I see that do not have a source of income or livelihood. And that person is going to be a potential candidate of gambling addiction because they want to win by any means possible.
In an overview every gamblers are chasing same goals which is winning but not all that are gambling to make profits. So certainly, the rest gambling on the goal to win are the entertainment players which they could still derive fun even after loosing and those gambling to make profits are curious to win and are usually emotionally imbalanced when they losses.

Most definitely by gambling for fun, you can let go your lost and can not afford undertaking any means that might be or against the casino policies which could be as a result of cheating while those gambling to make profits with all desperations are liable to nevermind breaking the rules. However, the result awaiting such profit chasers as an implications of using cheats is an express way to their addictions.

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There aren't as many sure bets reslly. If they exist for even a second then someone jumps on and sweeps the extra odds for ptofiit. Now thinking about it, it's not realistic to expect gambling for profit because it's rather obvious that casinos need to make profit on betting also. In fact if you calculate the house edge with the same method on sprouts bets, the edge for the casino is even higher. Well, it's a weird fact but many people ignore it.

As of actual cheating, an ethical penetration tester would disclose the blissue if it's exploitable. Casinos should create incentives for those funding critical bugs to get rewarded. This way it's easier to make some easy clean money ethically, rather that the casino losing thousands.

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June 03, 2024, 04:50:58 PM
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Personally, I don't like fraud in any form or form. As a matter of principle, I am not going to use fraudulent schemes to make a profit, because this is secondary to me, and the main thing is cleanliness, transparency and the absence of deception. Regarding bets and gambling games, some may say that you need to use any methods to win, including fraudulent ones. I want to warn and advise such players to think better, because they are taking a big risk that will not pay off.

In my opinion, it is best to look for different strategies and try them to get closer to winning, because when we manage to earn money with our minds, this will be the apogee and pinnacle of our superiority. I would say that such people exist, although there are not very many of them.
Winning feels way better when you’ve genuinely earned it, right? It's like the difference between acing a test because you studied hard and acing it because you sneaked a peek at the answers. Using your own skills and knowledge—whether it’s reading people in poker, knowing the odds, or just making smart decisions—feels like solving a puzzle. Each move you make is part of the excitement.
Cheating skips all the fun and robs you of the real satisfaction of winning. It's like taking a shortcut in a race; you might finish first, but did you really win? Plus, people around here value honesty and fair play. Playing fair helps make the community enjoyable for everyone. The journey is just as important as the destination, and cheating is a pretty lame shortcut.
Absolutely right, this feeling is one of the most pleasant when we win in a fair game. But I understand where it comes from to win at any cost and in spite of everything from other players. The fact is that in modern society, capitalism with money and success come first, and many are ready to do anything for this, even fraud. I especially began to notice this among young people, sometimes even I begin to wonder what will happen next if everyone, for their own benefit, deceives other people.

Also as for me and achievements, development and winnings in an honest way, this process will become interesting over time, you just need to try a few times. This applies not only to gambling, but also to other areas of life, even in raising children, this approach will even help build a more positive and constructive society.

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Gamblers who say they gamble for "fun" are lying. We all adore the excitement, atmosphere, and thrill of the chase, but we also want to win. Human nature. Primal instinct. That emotion is linked to gambling. Can a "fun gambler" not cheat? Maybe. But he temptation is huge. Staying on track when easy money is beckoning demands willpower. I know how to win.

Cheating goes beyond breaching regulations. Showing disdain to the game. Being disrespectful to other players. About taking the easy way out. Thats not how winners work. Can a "fun gambler" not cheat? Maybe. But its a slippery slope. Its human nature. Our true colors show when the stakes are high. Remember, honest winners win. Cheaters cheat themselves.

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When I was a child, I couldn't ignore the temptation to cheat to secure a bet. It was a long time ago, just children's games, but there was also money involved if you managed to beat someone and they had to buy it. I also cheated in gambling when my playmates were my friends, because of the temptation to win money. But now that I am older and have enough sense to do what is right, I no longer cheat.

However, in online casinos, it seems almost impossible to cheat. Now, who genuinely view it as a form of entertainment, the joy comes from the experience itself rather than the outcome.

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Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers


You misunderstand the concept of entertainment. There is a casino and there is a game, but if you see outright fraud, then I think any person will be against being deceived. You don't agree to be called a fool, do you?
Everyone doesn't like cheating.
But the point is different. It's a matter of reaction. Someone plays and loses, and that’s it. He doesn’t create drama, realizing that this is a game. But there is someone who believes that only he should win. And this is the sick reaction of a person who does not know how to lose. The funny thing is that those who easily lose today will often win more tomorrow than those who believe that casino money should belong only to them.

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