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We can still permit newbies to ask questions about English versus Pidgin. But to me it would be an alt of an old member or someone that introduced the newbie told him to do so.

Obari is not a newbie but he has kept repeating...like this:


We all know that Nigeria has English as the official language but Pidgin is spoken almost everywhere also. Which means English and Pidgin are spoken almost everywhere in Nigeria which makes that his posts to be a lie. We have discussed about this in the past. Most people like freedom to post in both languages.

But this is not even the reason I created this topic. I created this topic because people like Obari knew about this already and knew people chose both English and Pidgin but he continues to post what we have discussed before which is now repetition just to fill his weekly posts of the campaign he is.

My suggestion is that such thread like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500247.0) should be deleted because the Obari already knew this has been discussed before and he also make it self-moderated. He keeps deleting English posts on that thread that makes him be like the only one posting there just like he is alone. A self-centered person would be like that. Like he is alone.

If the thread is not deleted now if some good posters are posting there but another of such thread should be deleted in the future if coming from old member that is active on the local board. I can see Adbitco posted there already in Pidgin.

These Obari posts are unwanted spam.

Big man nothing spoil for wetin you talk as making that topic a self moderated then secondly him no supposed the post repeatedly for that thread wey him talk there. I don come across topics wey we don discuss about this same related issues but most times those topics are being buried away from the thread and new topics dey always replace am, if you look for beginners and help you go see almost all newbies keeps asking same questions then the senior men them go quote those thread give them to know say see wetin dey supposed know for the section and as a newbie.

Where I go hold you for hand be say as you know this topic don dey already discussed you for no come create another topic out of his own to make yours rather you for always bring that topic up there and quote for am see if him dey always delete your post, as senior man you be you for handle the issues with care and diplomacy.

I used this topic to request moderator to look into posting repeated topics about English versus Pidgin. It is a new request that such topics should be deleted as it has become spamming. Clearly Obari is spamming.

The action has been taken place i noticed the topic has been deleted or restricted, you know it's very hard for everyone to know post that has been overly discussed here except they used the search option to find post before creating another one.

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us. If someone decides to remove Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, and other local languages from their thread, I have no problem with that; however, removing the English language, which has been adopted by the community, is problematic.

There are Nigerians who understand both languages but only write in English, which is why we adopted both languages in the first place. Most of the Pidgin language I've read on this local board is horribly written and difficult to read. Sorry to say.

I deleted that thread for breaking the language rules and for discrimination.

You’re very funny
Very funny man
I hope you grow real well
And let me correct you that I’m not spamming, I will never spam and I see that your post is coming from a point of a bitter soul and I pray you heal from your bitterness man

You should be a perfect definition of a person who doesn’t see good in what others do.
There is a life after forum man and you shouldn’t be in the position of not wanting another grow and learn especially your fellow countryman.

@charlse-Tim, I’ve long seen and respected you as one of the elders of the local board but frankly I must tell you that you’re no God and you should learn how to be in others shoes especially knowing how the country has been already harsh on its citizens and you shouldn’t try to make it harder.
You might be doing the Right thing but the truth is that, you should learn to know that, no one is above mistake and no one is a saint not even you

I’m sure you already know that we all got stains on our whites as humans because there isn’t perfection in humans.

Peace and respect.

Thank you moderator and sherif for your great works and I’m sure you’ll do better.

I was even surprised to see that before the thread was deleted, all the comment that weren't in line with the OPs point of view had been deleted. For me, that's not the right way to do things most expecially when it's coming from one of the old men in the local board that's supposed to live an exemplary lifestyle for newbies and those that aren't old in the forum to learn from.

I understand that the reason for reiterating the point on posting more with pidgin could be that because we've hard lots of new faces that has joined the forum recently and might not have seen that a topic like that has been created, he might want to see people's view on the subject matter but when you're creating a thread first of all with an angry tune and then deleting people's opinions, it means you're not considering how the person you deleted his reply will feel. Thanks to the sheriff that intervened and I guess it's just best we learn how to moderate our activities knowing fully well that we have lots of new persons that are joining the local board and it wouldn't be good for them to start with a wrong orientation that we aren't united as a family.

Chill out Obari, this issue doesn't have to go too far, make all of us just understand one another and embrace the two accepted languages in this local board. Look at it this way, if so many users adopt the policy of deleting posts written in English in their threads, i can only imagine how unwelcoming the local board would be to a lot of users, let us all move on from this bro.

Are we United?
I think you should take your time to answer this question and you shouldn’t necessarily answer it and one thing I Dey assure you be say, the day dem go hold you then you go understand say we no Dey in United at all.
I’m less than two years in the forum and as such I never big pass mistake chief because even legendary Dey lose guard some times and personally I don learn say maturity no be by rank.

Baba I’m well chilled and thanks for all your response but I think generally in life, e get some things wey no fit Dey over emphasized and typical example na the case and talks about addiction in gambling and regardless of how much people talk about addiction, I don’t think it can be actually over emphasized and relating that with pidgin and the local board, the major reason why I created my topic was hijacked by Charles-Tim and him coke Dey make am seem I’m doing something wrong and he was typically the major reason I been Dey delete replies not written in pidgin because e been Dey d thread.

Normally I no Dey fight anybody because I no get that time as I personally get other important things doing especially getting better rather than acting like God at the expense of your fellow countryman.

Nigeria is a nation with diverses of cultures so also their traditions and languages far differs. In my LGA alone, we've more then 30 different languages then we can about the entire state before looking at it in a nation wide. That's to say we do not have a particular language but are unified with the English language which adulterated and reformed by us  in the way that lower classes of citizens in terms of educational levels can as well for in to flow with others. That's how this pigin language became convenient for the nation as a whole but yet English remains the general language.
Before anyone should've joined this forum, the member should have the aid of communicating with the rightful English even if it's not fluently.
However, even in our governances, there's a freedom of speech so, both English and the pidgin language in our local board should be respected. I actually don't know about the repetition of the said Obari being fond of this as Charles -Tim may have expressed but the factor that if an Op should delete other members comments on his thread just because it doesn't follow his order or pidgin language, then it feels self centered and concentrating to get the best out of the context of the thread unless the thread doesn't have a quality rate for discussion but probably an off topic best suitable by the Ops expectations.

Our capable moderator, I hail your decision to delete dat @Obari, thread, based on wetin I hear about am for dis thread. Evendo say I no get di opportunity to read am, e don become bygone unto say you don do di right thing. Wen I join dis local board as a newbie, I reason am say we suppose to de make posts with pidgin English alone, so dat wen  foreigners wey de visit di board, dem go de see say we get unique Nigerian styled English, I even start topic about di matter. But as @Charles-Tim, talk am, me sef I don observe say di matter of pidgin versus English don de debated for different threads inside dis our board and di resolutions na say make English and pidgin de acceptable for dis board and I don accept am like dat.

Me sef I observe say some of our pidgin English for dis board de hard to understand, so if any of our people wan type for pidgin English, make dem try to de use words and spellings wey others go fit to de comprehend easily.

like I said earlier, it's best to moderate our activities and not take things that shouldn't generate into a full blown argument seriously. I'm still new in the forum and might not have understood if there is anything personal that's going on here or that has happened prior to my actively on the board that has made this matter looked more serious than a simple correction that should not have been a big problem but like it happened here, I had created a thread on this board and it was deleted by the moderator before I even knew about it, I had to recreate it because I felt my network had issues while I was creating the thread but from the first reply I saw, I noticed that it  had been deleted the first time I created it.

I didn't take it personal because I knew that no one is above mistake and that I still have a lot to learn from this space. It's not possible to have the numbers of users that are on this space who will work as a united family and that's not what I'm suggesting when I made the statement that we are a family. I'm just suggesting that in the midst of our differences and flaws, we should find a neutral ground to co exist so if we're requesting something from the overall moderators, we wouldn't go out there as a divided family.

Let peace reign👍

This shouldn't be a thing we discuss with an aggressively manner. When I saw this thread I took my time to check other local boards and I found that most of their discussion were English but many of the is are written with their local language both replies and threads. So this is not a thing we should fight with. We are Nigerians and we don't speak any specific languages if not pidgin language and simple English, so we should also use the both languages, the important thing is always write with the one you are comfortable with so that you don't end up making mistakes. However it's not everyone that can perfectly write with pidgin language and no body have to blame them because we do not learn them in college.

I agree with Charles and Igeh and every other person who has opined that English and Pidgin are the accepted languages here. I don't see any issue with it. I remember exactly when the language issues was debated and agreed upon. It shouldn't be any issues.

Well I am happy that Charles brought this up. It isn't even for the person mentioned, it is going to serve as a reference for the uninformed in the present and future who may want to bring it up again.

I honestly thought we had moved on from the language barrier issue for a long time; I'm shocked some members still find it uncomfortable, but it doesn't matter and doesn't affect anything. When we first started pushing for a local board, some members stated we wouldn't get one because we wrote in English and so on, but we did get one with the stated English and Pidgin rules, so I understand why it's a problem now.

India The local board speaks English, and just a few members speaks Hindi, but that hasn't stopped them from attaining what they have now. Theymos doesn't care about any of that; just give him the number.

Well that's true and before now I was also skeptical on this issue but I later found out that it's really doesn't matter that much as we ourselves are not bound to one particular language and since everyone understands and go with the pidgin and English setting, I think there is no extra reasons to deliberate on the issue and yes there are so many local that also do communicate with English as well and they are all okay so why must ours be an issue.

But you no say this place we dey accept both pidgin and main English language and we have be using it since, if many people dey use English pass pidgin English na wetin you go just address generally so that our brothers wey dey come join us go take such correction because as you dey talk am I believe so people go they think you dey observe only one person why na wetin most people dey use, you can not differentiate that much between English and pidgin English because e get person we go talk pidgin you go think say the person dey talk English, so na so e dey, make no talk like this ooh so people no go dey carry akpor for us

If there is ever a time that I am happy that we got a moderator then I think it is this time. Your swift intervention was a good one.

Now to everyone if will be unique that the Board uses a language that others in the general Board do not understand but it would be a great mess if also us here in the Board do not get a thing that is discussed here. Pidgin has you have pointed it out Dey very robust he mean say if you no Dey use to am you fit either mistake the spellings or you fit Dey talk the wrong thing entirely which mean say the whole post no get head. So wouldn’t it be better that such post is done in English? I think we all agree it will.

So not that I am supporting a side here we put out a straight order that only pidgin is allowed, we might be witnessing some spams by people who do not speak it well or write it well but wishes to air their opinions too. Or better still be missing out on some valuable contributions from those members as they will definitely stay away. So the idea to embrace both is good. If you understand pidgin properly please make use of it here to make it board unique if otherwise use the English language

Imo, language is just a medium for communication that ensures that the people participating in a discourse can understand each other. Like Charles-Tim and Igebotz have confirmed, it doesn't matter if the post is written in English or in pidgin. I personally write in both and choose to use whichever one I'm comfortable with at any given time. I go implore people that still see this as an issue to overlook it because in life, as much as we all want something, we can't always get what we want. If dealing in a public setting, not everyone will follow same pattern.

 Most times, I get confused over choosing between posting in Pidgin or English in this local board, but then I chose anyone I feel is very suitable or which one I'll freestyle very well in certain posts but then that doesn't mean that anyone is wrong in using either, the only thing I think is wrong as stated by our able moderator is using any of our indigenous language.

 Well, from what I've discovered everyone is right to Air their opinions like Obari just did in the deleted thread and also anyone could disagree with your opinion and try to correct you like Charles-Tim did, but then correcting someone by calling them a spammer is unfair. like Obari said no one is above mistakes in this forum and I believe he's taken his corrections.

 Well you guys are gentlemen and older people in this forum, I see you both as people I could learn from based on your experience here, and If there's any issues among you both, you could settle it maturely as gentle men that you both are, that's my opinion.

English and Pidgin are spoken everywhere in Nigeria which makes us to have the freedom to use any of the two languages to post on this forum. You can even have part of your post in English and the other part in Pidgin. You can have all in English or have all in Pidgin.

There are some discussion you just have to leave for the old members. You registered in January of this year and you do not know the history because the Nigeria local board history is older than that.

Did you read this which is enough for you not to post what you posted:


Obari knows the rules and we have discussed about this before times without number. What should posting against the rules called? Is it not spamming. Also what is posting what you have posted before called and which you are not winning but repeating the post? Is it not called spamming. He is also trolling.

English is our official language in the country since there are over 500 languages in the country it will be difficult to understand it all. Pidgin English is just like an unofficial (official) language spoken in the country so it wouldn’t be right to make it the only language spoken here because it is not everyone that understands it properly, it was just added to be the language spoken here to differentiate the local board from the main board because we all have our different native languages and pidgin is the only language we all can understand aside English.

I don’t see how having English and pidgin as our local board language is a problem the most important thing is to understand the message passed.

Is good you came up with this thread my chairman @ O.P, as I'm sure I'm one of those who deliberated and  suggested that both Pidgin and normal English should be allowed here to boast engagement when this issue was raise. Because if I'm not mistaken, I can remember some people on this board were complaining of not been good with Pidgin, which was one of the reasons why they were avoiding the local board, of which we all deliberated about it and came up with a final conclusion to be allowing both use of normal English and Pidgin. And we can all testify that this have actually boast our monthly engagements ever since this was new adjustment was made. So for me, I see no reason why someone should come create a thread to discuss what have already been discussed and permanent solution issued.

Hence, I think this should act as a piece of information to those joining the forum this year who never knew of such amendment.

E get one thread concerning this same matter wey I see and I also said the same thing because I honestly don't like the fact that foreigners find it very easy to understand what we are saying whereas we can't understand what they are saying in their own local board,  I don Waka go other local board Dem and if you don't use translator you will never understand but for naija it is what it is,  as I see am for here no be everybody sabi write for pidgin language but Dem dey understand so make everybody dey write with the one wey em sabi even if na English language nothing still spoil, as long as we are communicating with each other and passing the message across. Let love lead.

I have checked other local boards, especially those that have more than one languages and I see the flexibility with which they interact without rancor. The Indian local board, for instance, have many sub languages and users are at liberty to choose which language to post with provided you are communicating and being understood by the community. This post from the Indian local board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500204.0) is a good example, as it was made in English with comments also English although they have a section for regional languages. That is how they organize theirs and there is no fight among them. We too can organize ours to suit our purpose and make here lively for us as one united family.

Una don talk the one una sabi and I no go say anybody no get reason or Dey make sense but, firstly we gats look watin be self moderation forum wise. Self moderation puts the OP in charge of en thread and watin en talk day e go be na em go be. Na so the thing just be, as ugly or bad as it may sound, I no see anything wrong with say, person way create thread say, na watin en hope to see be this, you go con come, Dey do otherwise. That no make sense naw!

If I may ask,
Watin be the rule way en break in particular?
Make person dig am up make we analyze am.

Also, on those deleted posts from self moderated threads, una don try read the default message way Dey follow the deleted post for email? Try read am and read am again, then you go see how much power way OP of self moderated thread get. It’s that simple, allow the rules of self moderation to thrive.

I get question to ask. Whether we communicate for pidgin or English, the message we dey try pass, the target audience they receive am? If yes, then e no matter which parlance we nack am, provided we achieve our goal which be to disseminate information.

I neva know the rules of this place well concerning the chosen or preferred language but from wetin I dey read, the both dey accepted.
Now for the case of the user @Obari, I no go blame am for him actions at all becos he just dey try fight for the right of the use of pidgin for we local board unto say nah that one fit the place.
Baba, @CharlesTim, no see am say the guy wan try spam deliberately, instead look am in the light of somebody wey feel say tins no dey go as e suppose be. I know of one thread wey one of our greats @Mpamegbu open for here and e make am strictly pidgin so that users no go lose sight  and touch of wetin make the local board special. Nah true say this mata don dey discussed tire but look am like this, for the gambling section, people dey spam steady and for Meta, the mata don dey discussed on how to curb spam sotey e don be like broken record but that no mean say pipo no dey find ways to stop am.
 
You fit para change am for me say I be newbie and nothing I Sabi, but I just dey talk am as I see am because you for do the same thing @Obari dey do if you see say something no dey go as e suppose be.

I found it easy to understand what that are posted on local boards.

Translator makes it very easy. Example is this Hugeblack post in العربية (Arabic):

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/22/hTH9l.jpeg

Easily translated into this:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/22/hTZX1.jpeg

Many people here do not know how easy some translators are easy to use just like you are just visiting the forum with no much extra task.

This my post is off-topic but I think it is worth correcting this. Pidgin is not our mothers' tongue. Mother's languages are local languages. Pidgin is derived from English and native languages in a way people that are not educated can also easily be able to speak and write English which led to Pidgin.

Sometimes una dey make this our LB dey boring to enter, see wetin you dey talk, "pigin is not our mother's tongue" the English nah language wey piple dey use all over the world and many countries get language wey them dey take communicate and na only them dey understand am and make we know say the pigin nah language wey we as Nigerians fit use communicate no matter the tribe you come from. Piple wey no fit use English language communicate fit use pigin and you no go expect some of us to go use pigin for other sections for the Forum, nah only we go understand am that na why I see say here nah the only special place to use the pigin and not English language.
For this posting in English for this our local board no be like this when I first join dis Forum, make we just continue to make here place where we fit call home, you speak abi post in pigin here no means say you no go school or them go come tear your results becos you use pigin post, na wetin piple outside dis naija section go take know say here nah Nigeria piple get here.
Wetin be the need we call here LOCAL BOARD? No be to behave local? Wen we go outside this section we speak all the loads of English wey full our mouth. Make we behave local for this board abeg una English and educated piple.

I no no wetting we dey even argue for here, this thing na no 1 rule for the READ ME!! Unofficial General Guidelines For Posting( Na de koko dem)  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430885.msg61477821#msg61477821) which we all know about am, so delebrating on same issue dey challenge each other no go solve any problem. Despite say we na still new people wey just come, but atleast we don delebrate on this issues for several occasions and we don die the matter. speaking English and pidgin no go change anything provide the message dey pass across anybody wey dey read am. Make we no come dey behave like small children over issue wey we don pass finish. If ona forget so soon make I remind ona say for every organisation, before dem sign something to  be rule and regulations, the first stage na to bring am as agender or matter of the day. After Much more deliberation and agument, them go com conclude for one thing come pas am to bill and E go come become rule which we don agree on am and this na the rules wey we don gree
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So anything or anybody going contrary to a rule that has been signed and stamped is just causing unnecessary drama. If them report this kind case to any authority them go judge am as breaking of rule. Though them dey rewrite rule but no be this way. It must be handled in a more matured way. No need of repeating this talk again I for even sudgest to avoid Spamming make igebotz lock this thread to avoid Spamming make everybody go find where him go make post collect money.

Yes, Pidgin is not our mother's language. Our native language is what we call our mothers tongue and it is our first and primary language. I still see a few people who are unable to speak pidgin same with those able to speake pidgin alone and aswell even the better population knows how to speak both. Reading the rules and regulations of the local board, English and pidgin are acceptable so everyone has the right to pick between both to speak, sometimes depending on one's state of mind the person might decide to speak differently with pidgin or sometimes proper English.

Pidgin is what makes the local board more interesting, it's like a coded language and people from outside finds it difficult to comprehend compared to English. Despite such, it can only be an appeal as not to always write in English especially when we are discussing something concerning what should be kept private in the country alone, maybe politics or economy related.

Local boards are where locals communicate and discuss common goals. They are not limited to Nigerians, so you can post on any local board as long as you can communicate effectively in the language and so on. The Naija board is not the only one where people speak in different languages; this also happens on other boards. Have you considered what will happen to other Nigerians who do not understand or know how to write in Pidgin if the board is restricted to only Pidgin?

So many factors were put into consideration before deciding on the language accepted here.

Accepting the both languages is a good one, because I noticed that most Nigerians are very fluent in speaking pidgin English but when it comes to writing it seems difficult for some to read to understand because we are very used  in writing and reading long sentences in English language. Make we try not to allow language to be a problem since these two languages is what we speak without any discrimination.

Mr Igebotz I no sure if I understand your English as no be pigin you take post am. But the thing be say make we no hide from the truth. Ok them say make we only use pigin and you dey consider members wey no fit understand am, wetin con happen to learning? I learn how to write for pigin by asking piple wey dey around wey sabi and understand, nothing spoil if we ask for help for wetin we no get or understand.
I no dey against the use of English to post but e too much, make we tell ourselves the truth. Post in English oh but make we limit am at least for ones make outsiders find am hard to understand our communication for the board, no be small thing them don put one or two together to get the main Koko wey we dey talk about.
So make una no dey see am like say we no want English for this LB at all at all. For the Proverb and Meaning thread you see say English plenty dia? No way, here sweet when the English no plenty, you check am nah. About the factors, my broda if no be pigin how we wan take know say nah naija board be this? Naija board without pigin no be Nigeria Local Board.

Background matters; not everyone grew up in an environment where Pidgin was widely used, and if they couldn't understand or write Pidgin properly all these years, they're not going to do it now just because some local board rules required it; instead, they'll post where they're needed, which is the discrimination we don't want. Pidgin is not our official language, but it is widely used by second and third-class citizens such as myself and you; first-class individuals lack such exposure, and some of them are on this board.

Our board is the most difficult place to read because Pidgin hasn't been added to translation tool yet unlike other Local board where Google translate everything to English the moment you open the board.

If I write my post in Pidgin I bet you say you go no understand one slang inside.

Bro wetin u talk for this place na so e suppose be na so him as senior man for take follow am up let am know say him Dom too repeat this same post. But the matter be say this bobo him no be newbie abi him Neva read the rules and regulations for this place, abi him dey for for newbie to come correct am before him go take correction?

Him don already explained am since na, say him create am this topic to report that guy wey dey always delete people post. E be like say as him post there op delete him post making it too difficult for him to post there and so him gas to come with this topic to attract mod attention towards that post wey that our brother make there.

I believe the victim of this thread has learnt his lesson and I know he won't try it again because he wouldn't want to ruin his reputation in this forum and I think the reason why the author of this thread brings this up here, as a new post it's because the repetition of that singular act has become unbearable for him and I want to ask, is it that our moderate didn't observe this act though he can't be able to figure out everything by himself but I believe he has someone like an assistant or maybe people who report issues to him, is it that they didn't also observe it cause if they have reported this I think this issue wouldn't have escalated to this extent.

Moreover, in as much everyone wants or need money that doesn't mean we should go against the rules and regulations of the forum and if victims are not treated properly the forum will look so bored and annoying. We are like family in this local board and family do make mistake at times and later they reconcile and forgive one another so I will like our able working moderator to handle this issue accordingly and I will suggest we stop this agitation cause we aren't teaching our newbie anything from this agitation.

Why some of una no want make non-Nigerians understand wetin una dey talk for this local board, this place isn't a secret cult, and anything you post on the internet is already public, and can be interpreted in one way or another by persons who don't even understand your language. You fit easily understand wetin users dey talk for their own local board if you use translation tools. That being said, translation tools have not added pidgin yet, but who knows, some people can find ways to still understand it through their African friends or some other means. Thus my message here is that anything you want to keep a scecret should be said only in PM's or in direct messages to the person on Telegram or Whatsapp, if you have their phone numbers.

The accepted languages na Pidgin and English, me i dey use the two of dem, i dey even mix the two of them for one post, i no get wahala with am, neither do i have a problem with people who want to communicate only in English Language.

I support your statement Mr Igebotz, not everyone is able to write in Pidgin some people understand perfectly but writing becomes a big issue for them and @Sexylizzy2813, you can't expect them to skip the Naija local board when posting cause they can't write in Pidgin, you should've put that into consideration and that's what Mr Igebotz is trying to say.

 For instance I have a younger one that finds it very difficult to communicate in Pidgin talk more of writing with it, in my family he's the only one that finds it very difficult due to his educational background and he grew up that way, imagine if he was in this forum and Pidgin was the only means of communication in our Local Board, how do you expect him to cope.

 This is a general forum, and I believe the moderators have taken their time to put lots of things in general into consideration before stating that both English and Pidgin should be our official language for communicate, those who could communicate with any should use it and it shouldn't call for confusion or much arguments.

I get your point because Obari was acting like a dictator there, but there are better ways to make your point obvious without pointing fingers to anybody. Of course, you could reference his topic as an example of your subject matter, but consistently calling out Obari in your thread is no better than the social media dragging we see every day which results from misunderstandings between two celebrities or activists.

You sound as though you're beefing Obari and not correcting him and I'll advice you mince your words and handle such matters in a less personal way next time. I know this might not be your intent, but that is clearly its significance.

I do not have any problem with English nor pidgin as I understand and speak both perfectly, Obari must have been advocating for more use of pidgin English which is not bad, although he might have gone extreme with his advocacy, but creating a thread just to call out Obari makes no sense honestly.