We all know the rules

[Charles-Tim]

We can still permit newbies to ask questions about English versus Pidgin. But to me it would be an alt of an old member or someone that introduced the newbie told him to do so.

Obari is not a newbie but he has kept repeating...like this:

This place na typical local board and everybody already know say, na pigin be our generally accepted language for this country but yet, we Dey write in very plain English and that alone Dey make the local board very porous wey no suppose be like that.

We all know that Nigeria has English as the official language but Pidgin is spoken almost everywhere also. Which means English and Pidgin are spoken almost everywhere in Nigeria which makes that his posts to be a lie. We have discussed about this in the past. Most people like freedom to post in both languages.

But this is not even the reason I created this topic. I created this topic because people like Obari knew about this already and knew people chose both English and Pidgin but he continues to post what we have discussed before which is now repetition just to fill his weekly posts of the campaign he is.

My suggestion is that such thread like this should be deleted because the Obari already knew this has been discussed before and he also make it self-moderated. He keeps deleting English posts on that thread that makes him be like the only one posting there just like he is alone. A self-centered person would be like that. Like he is alone.

If the thread is not deleted now if some good posters are posting there but another of such thread should be deleted in the future if coming from old member that is active on the local board. I can see Adbitco posted there already in Pidgin.

These Obari posts are unwanted spam.

[Perfectbaby]

Big man nothing spoil for wetin you talk as making that topic a self moderated then secondly him no supposed the post repeatedly for that thread wey him talk there. I don come across topics wey we don discuss about this same related issues but most times those topics are being buried away from the thread and new topics dey always replace am, if you look for beginners and help you go see almost all newbies keeps asking same questions then the senior men them go quote those thread give them to know say see wetin dey supposed know for the section and as a newbie.

Where I go hold you for hand be say as you know this topic don dey already discussed you for no come create another topic out of his own to make yours rather you for always bring that topic up there and quote for am see if him dey always delete your post, as senior man you be you for handle the issues with care and diplomacy.

[Charles-Tim]

Where I go hold you for hand be say as you know this topic don dey already discussed you for no come create another topic out of his own to make yours rather you for always bring that topic up there and quote for am see if him dey always delete your post, as senior man you be you for handle the issues with care and diplomacy.

I used this topic to request moderator to look into posting repeated topics about English versus Pidgin. It is a new request that such topics should be deleted as it has become spamming. Clearly Obari is spamming.

[Perfectbaby]

Where I go hold you for hand be say as you know this topic don dey already discussed you for no come create another topic out of his own to make yours rather you for always bring that topic up there and quote for am see if him dey always delete your post, as senior man you be you for handle the issues with care and diplomacy.

I used this topic to request moderator to look into posting repeated topics about English versus Pidgin. It is a new request that such topics should be deleted as it has become spamming. Clearly Obari is spamming.

The action has been taken place i noticed the topic has been deleted or restricted, you know it's very hard for everyone to know post that has been overly discussed here except they used the search option to find post before creating another one.

[Coyster]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

[Igebotz]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us. If someone decides to remove Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, and other local languages from their thread, I have no problem with that; however, removing the English language, which has been adopted by the community, is problematic.

There are Nigerians who understand both languages but only write in English, which is why we adopted both languages in the first place. Most of the Pidgin language I've read on this local board is horribly written and difficult to read. Sorry to say.

I deleted that thread for breaking the language rules and for discrimination.

[Obari]

Where I go hold you for hand be say as you know this topic don dey already discussed you for no come create another topic out of his own to make yours rather you for always bring that topic up there and quote for am see if him dey always delete your post, as senior man you be you for handle the issues with care and diplomacy.

I used this topic to request moderator to look into posting repeated topics about English versus Pidgin. It is a new request that such topics should be deleted as it has become spamming. Clearly Obari is spamming.

You’re very funny
Very funny man
I hope you grow real well
And let me correct you that I’m not spamming, I will never spam and I see that your post is coming from a point of a bitter soul and I pray you heal from your bitterness man

You should be a perfect definition of a person who doesn’t see good in what others do.
There is a life after forum man and you shouldn’t be in the position of not wanting another grow and learn especially your fellow countryman.

@charlse-Tim, I’ve long seen and respected you as one of the elders of the local board but frankly I must tell you that you’re no God and you should learn how to be in others shoes especially knowing how the country has been already harsh on its citizens and you shouldn’t try to make it harder.
You might be doing the Right thing but the truth is that, you should learn to know that, no one is above mistake and no one is a saint not even you

I’m sure you already know that we all got stains on our whites as humans because there isn’t perfection in humans.

Peace and respect.

Thank you moderator and sherif for your great works and I’m sure you’ll do better.

[Marvelockg]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us.

I was even surprised to see that before the thread was deleted, all the comment that weren't in line with the OPs point of view had been deleted. For me, that's not the right way to do things most expecially when it's coming from one of the old men in the local board that's supposed to live an exemplary lifestyle for newbies and those that aren't old in the forum to learn from.

I understand that the reason for reiterating the point on posting more with pidgin could be that because we've hard lots of new faces that has joined the forum recently and might not have seen that a topic like that has been created, he might want to see people's view on the subject matter but when you're creating a thread first of all with an angry tune and then deleting people's opinions, it means you're not considering how the person you deleted his reply will feel. Thanks to the sheriff that intervened and I guess it's just best we learn how to moderate our activities knowing fully well that we have lots of new persons that are joining the local board and it wouldn't be good for them to start with a wrong orientation that we aren't united as a family.

[Coyster]

I’m sure you already know that we all got stains on our whites as humans because there isn’t perfection in humans.

Chill out Obari, this issue doesn't have to go too far, make all of us just understand one another and embrace the two accepted languages in this local board. Look at it this way, if so many users adopt the policy of deleting posts written in English in their threads, i can only imagine how unwelcoming the local board would be to a lot of users, let us all move on from this bro.

[Obari]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us.

Thanks to the sheriff that intervened and I guess it's just best we learn how to moderate our activities knowing fully well that we have lots of new persons that are joining the local board and it wouldn't be good for them to start with a wrong orientation that we aren't united as a family.

Are we United?
I think you should take your time to answer this question and you shouldn’t necessarily answer it and one thing I Dey assure you be say, the day dem go hold you then you go understand say we no Dey in United at all.
I’m less than two years in the forum and as such I never big pass mistake chief because even legendary Dey lose guard some times and personally I don learn say maturity no be by rank.

I’m sure you already know that we all got stains on our whites as humans because there isn’t perfection in humans.

Chill out Obari, this issue doesn't have to go too far, make all of us just understand one another and embrace the two accepted languages in this local board. Look at it this way, if so many users adopt the policy of deleting posts written in English in their threads, i can only imagine how unwelcoming the local board would be to a lot of users, let us all move on from this bro.

Baba I’m well chilled and thanks for all your response but I think generally in life, e get some things wey no fit Dey over emphasized and typical example na the case and talks about addiction in gambling and regardless of how much people talk about addiction, I don’t think it can be actually over emphasized and relating that with pidgin and the local board, the major reason why I created my topic was hijacked by Charles-Tim and him coke Dey make am seem I’m doing something wrong and he was typically the major reason I been Dey delete replies not written in pidgin because e been Dey d thread.

Normally I no Dey fight anybody because I no get that time as I personally get other important things doing especially getting better rather than acting like God at the expense of your fellow countryman.

[AVE5]

Nigeria is a nation with diverses of cultures so also their traditions and languages far differs. In my LGA alone, we've more then 30 different languages then we can about the entire state before looking at it in a nation wide. That's to say we do not have a particular language but are unified with the English language which adulterated and reformed by us  in the way that lower classes of citizens in terms of educational levels can as well for in to flow with others. That's how this pigin language became convenient for the nation as a whole but yet English remains the general language.
Before anyone should've joined this forum, the member should have the aid of communicating with the rightful English even if it's not fluently.
However, even in our governances, there's a freedom of speech so, both English and the pidgin language in our local board should be respected. I actually don't know about the repetition of the said Obari being fond of this as Charles -Tim may have expressed but the factor that if an Op should delete other members comments on his thread just because it doesn't follow his order or pidgin language, then it feels self centered and concentrating to get the best out of the context of the thread unless the thread doesn't have a quality rate for discussion but probably an off topic best suitable by the Ops expectations.

[Kelward]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us. If someone decides to remove Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, and other local languages from their thread, I have no problem with that; however, removing the English language, which has been adopted by the community, is problematic.

There are Nigerians who understand both languages but only write in English, which is why we adopted both languages in the first place. Most of the Pidgin language I've read on this local board is horribly written and difficult to read. Sorry to say.

I deleted that thread for breaking the language rules and for discrimination.

Our capable moderator, I hail your decision to delete dat @Obari, thread, based on wetin I hear about am for dis thread. Evendo say I no get di opportunity to read am, e don become bygone unto say you don do di right thing. Wen I join dis local board as a newbie, I reason am say we suppose to de make posts with pidgin English alone, so dat wen  foreigners wey de visit di board, dem go de see say we get unique Nigerian styled English, I even start topic about di matter. But as @Charles-Tim, talk am, me sef I don observe say di matter of pidgin versus English don de debated for different threads inside dis our board and di resolutions na say make English and pidgin de acceptable for dis board and I don accept am like dat.

Me sef I observe say some of our pidgin English for dis board de hard to understand, so if any of our people wan type for pidgin English, make dem try to de use words and spellings wey others go fit to de comprehend easily.

[Marvelockg]

I don't know why some users keep making this thing an issue, something that has been discussed time and again, it is fine to use both English and Pidgin, and you fit even mix the two of dem for one post, as i dey do now. I don't get what the problem is, live and let live; if you do not want to use English, then don't do so, but do not dictate to others what they should do.

If we have any need to review some of our rules, we go do am, but for now, me i no see any reason to do it. If you make your thread self moderated and you are deleting posts only because they are written in English, then e no make sense at all and you'll basically make users start avoiding your threads.

Creating self-moderated threads is fine, but it becomes a problem when you start removing other people's comments only because they are written in English; this sends a wrong message and causes discrimination among us.

Thanks to the sheriff that intervened and I guess it's just best we learn how to moderate our activities knowing fully well that we have lots of new persons that are joining the local board and it wouldn't be good for them to start with a wrong orientation that we aren't united as a family.

Are we United?
I think you should take your time to answer this question and you shouldn’t necessarily answer it and one thing I Dey assure you be say, the day dem go hold you then you go understand say we no Dey in United at all.
I’m less than two years in the forum and as such I never big pass mistake chief because even legendary Dey lose guard some times and personally I don learn say maturity no be by rank.

like I said earlier, it's best to moderate our activities and not take things that shouldn't generate into a full blown argument seriously. I'm still new in the forum and might not have understood if there is anything personal that's going on here or that has happened prior to my actively on the board that has made this matter looked more serious than a simple correction that should not have been a big problem but like it happened here, I had created a thread on this board and it was deleted by the moderator before I even knew about it, I had to recreate it because I felt my network had issues while I was creating the thread but from the first reply I saw, I noticed that it  had been deleted the first time I created it.

I didn't take it personal because I knew that no one is above mistake and that I still have a lot to learn from this space. It's not possible to have the numbers of users that are on this space who will work as a united family and that's not what I'm suggesting when I made the statement that we are a family. I'm just suggesting that in the midst of our differences and flaws, we should find a neutral ground to co exist so if we're requesting something from the overall moderators, we wouldn't go out there as a divided family.

Let peace reign👍

[Su-asa]

This shouldn't be a thing we discuss with an aggressively manner. When I saw this thread I took my time to check other local boards and I found that most of their discussion were English but many of the is are written with their local language both replies and threads. So this is not a thing we should fight with. We are Nigerians and we don't speak any specific languages if not pidgin language and simple English, so we should also use the both languages, the important thing is always write with the one you are comfortable with so that you don't end up making mistakes. However it's not everyone that can perfectly write with pidgin language and no body have to blame them because we do not learn them in college.

[Davidvictorson]

I agree with Charles and Igeh and every other person who has opined that English and Pidgin are the accepted languages here. I don't see any issue with it. I remember exactly when the language issues was debated and agreed upon. It shouldn't be any issues.

Well I am happy that Charles brought this up. It isn't even for the person mentioned, it is going to serve as a reference for the uninformed in the present and future who may want to bring it up again.

[Igebotz]

I agree with Charles and Igeh and every other person who has opined that English and Pidgin are the accepted languages here. I don't see any issue with it. I remember exactly when the language issues was debated and agreed upon. It shouldn't be any issues.

Well I am happy that Charles brought this up. It isn't even for the person mentioned, it is going to serve as a reference for the uninformed in the present and future who may want to bring it up again.

I honestly thought we had moved on from the language barrier issue for a long time; I'm shocked some members still find it uncomfortable, but it doesn't matter and doesn't affect anything. When we first started pushing for a local board, some members stated we wouldn't get one because we wrote in English and so on, but we did get one with the stated English and Pidgin rules, so I understand why it's a problem now.

India The local board speaks English, and just a few members speaks Hindi, but that hasn't stopped them from attaining what they have now. Theymos doesn't care about any of that; just give him the number.

[Jaycoinz]

I agree with Charles and Igeh and every other person who has opined that English and Pidgin are the accepted languages here. I don't see any issue with it. I remember exactly when the language issues was debated and agreed upon. It shouldn't be any issues.

Well I am happy that Charles brought this up. It isn't even for the person mentioned, it is going to serve as a reference for the uninformed in the present and future who may want to bring it up again.

I honestly thought we had moved on from the language barrier issue for a long time; I'm shocked some members still find it uncomfortable, but it doesn't matter and doesn't affect anything. When we first started pushing for a local board, some members stated we wouldn't get one because we wrote in English and so on, but we did get one with the stated English and Pidgin rules, so I understand why it's a problem now.

India The local board speaks English, and just a few members speaks Hindi, but that hasn't stopped them from attaining what they have now. Theymos doesn't care about any of that; just give him the number.

Well that's true and before now I was also skeptical on this issue but I later found out that it's really doesn't matter that much as we ourselves are not bound to one particular language and since everyone understands and go with the pidgin and English setting, I think there is no extra reasons to deliberate on the issue and yes there are so many local that also do communicate with English as well and they are all okay so why must ours be an issue.

[Onyeeze]

But you no say this place we dey accept both pidgin and main English language and we have be using it since, if many people dey use English pass pidgin English na wetin you go just address generally so that our brothers wey dey come join us go take such correction because as you dey talk am I believe so people go they think you dey observe only one person why na wetin most people dey use, you can not differentiate that much between English and pidgin English because e get person we go talk pidgin you go think say the person dey talk English, so na so e dey, make no talk like this ooh so people no go dey carry akpor for us

[EL MOHA]

I honestly thought we had moved on from the language barrier issue for a long time; I'm shocked some members still find it uncomfortable, but it doesn't matter and doesn't affect anything. When we first started pushing for a local board, some members stated we wouldn't get one because we wrote in English and so on, but we did get one with the stated English and Pidgin rules, so I understand why it's a problem now.

India The local board speaks English, and just a few members speaks Hindi, but that hasn't stopped them from attaining what they have now. Theymos doesn't care about any of that; just give him the number.

If there is ever a time that I am happy that we got a moderator then I think it is this time. Your swift intervention was a good one.

Now to everyone if will be unique that the Board uses a language that others in the general Board do not understand but it would be a great mess if also us here in the Board do not get a thing that is discussed here. Pidgin has you have pointed it out Dey very robust he mean say if you no Dey use to am you fit either mistake the spellings or you fit Dey talk the wrong thing entirely which mean say the whole post no get head. So wouldn’t it be better that such post is done in English? I think we all agree it will.

So not that I am supporting a side here we put out a straight order that only pidgin is allowed, we might be witnessing some spams by people who do not speak it well or write it well but wishes to air their opinions too. Or better still be missing out on some valuable contributions from those members as they will definitely stay away. So the idea to embrace both is good. If you understand pidgin properly please make use of it here to make it board unique if otherwise use the English language

[nelson4lov]

Imo, language is just a medium for communication that ensures that the people participating in a discourse can understand each other. Like Charles-Tim and Igebotz have confirmed, it doesn't matter if the post is written in English or in pidgin. I personally write in both and choose to use whichever one I'm comfortable with at any given time. I go implore people that still see this as an issue to overlook it because in life, as much as we all want something, we can't always get what we want. If dealing in a public setting, not everyone will follow same pattern.