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I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

When it comes to playing a card game that doesn't involve playing against another person, I think it's considered a game of chance or a luck-based game. I played this game when I was young, back in the days when the internet was not yet so popular, and it was fun—just a way to kill the boredom sometimes. But I haven't played it online for money.

Popular card games like blackjack and poker have likely become more popular because people believe they can improve their skills and be profitable in the long run.

When it became a game of chance is when gambling sites start offering the game for their customers to make money from their customers. If it is not about gambling, it will not be regarded as game of chance.

Puzzle are never a game of chance, but rather a game of critical thinking whereby a person is given a clue to further  test his knowledge if he could be able to correctly answer it, most especially when it comes to Puzzle games where shapes, images or objects are given for one to identify which one matches the exact image or object given. But however, the only area where I think puzzle can be inculcated into gambling is if it's been added with timer, whereby an individual is given an object and asked to guess the name correctly within a stipulated time frame, and if the time elapses, he fails.

It is somewhat a game of chance,we all have played it in our offices in free time and I remember the times I got mad which were a lot of them as the cards were not coming like they should,or there was a glitch in the software or I made a human error and could not check which it was,in other words it is a puzzle which requires skill but if you are not careful you risk to turn it to a game of chance.

We don't find it in any casino and this means that they don't consider it a game of chance otherwise they would fit it in their portfolio.

It's a game of chance if your moves are limited. The game is built in such a way that you will always win, as long as you know the rules and know what to do so that you won't block your next move, because it's of course possible to lose the game due to no possible moves left, but 90% of the time you will finish the game and use all the cards. For this reason this will never be casino game, unless you play against someone counting moves, or time and the first one to finish gets the prize.

Solitaire, especially since it's not listed amongst casino games isn't a game of chance; playing against the hosting sever itself needs a very calculative and critical movement and decision making, which has nothing to do with LUCK but CHANCE. The formation with which you begin with can - in most cases - determine how the ending would look like.

What I'll consider to be a game of luck and chance even though it doesn't involve betting real money on is DICE or LUDO games.
I won't even enjoy a game that limits my move at all. I just wanna play and enjoy whatever decisions I have to make.

Solitaire still has some factor of chance since the probability of completing the game rely on the card position and your choice of what card do you open to open the cards needed on the right sequence to complete game.

This kind of game can be use for gambling but this will take a lot of time for each game to conclude that’s why casino never consider this type of game due to less round will be available due to the duration of the game. But if we are talking about chances then this game has some sort of game of chance.

Solitaire can be a game of chance while puzzle is not.  Puzzles need a skill of keen observation and understanding of what is laid in front of our eyes while solitaire depends on the arrangement of cards which can be solved or not depending on its arrangement.  While puzzles give all hints right away and it is up to the solver whether he can see all the laid hints, solitaire don't work that way.  It is because the remaining cards are not shown while we arrange the cards accordingly.


Gambling is not the only games that relies on chances and not because solitaire is not a gambling game, it is not to be considered a game of chance.  It may not be 100% dependent on the randomizing factor but the fact that the arrangement of the deck is randomized and the success to win the game is dependent on the arrangement of the deck.  Yes, it needs skills to win the game but the fact that the arrangement of the deck is unknown and greatly affect the outcome of the game, it can be considered a game of chance.




The arrangement of the deck does have something to do with the chance of completing the game.  So I believe we cannot entirely say that solitaire is a game of skill alone and not a game of chance.
 

It was stated that if the game depends on a randomizing factor, it is considered as game of chance.  SAme way with Dice and Ludo games, solitaire also has its randomizing factor which is how the deck is shuffled.  


This quotation proves that solitaire is also a game of chance, it might require skills to win the game but how it is shuffled is the final determining factor of whether the game is winnable or not.
 

Solitaire is a game that combines elements of skill and chance. I guess the initial setup of the cards is random but the outcome of the game is largely determined by the player's decisions and strategy. The player's ability to analyse the game state, plan moves in advance and make optimal choices greatly influences the chances of winning.

While luck plays a role in the distribution of cards a skilled player can consistently achieve higher win rates by making informed choices throughout the game. Solitaire can be seen as a game that involves both chance and skill.

I think they can be considered games of chance, considering not every rounds are possible to be completed, as at some point you will reach a dead end where it's not possible to move the cards anymore or make any further progress. But would you really bet on a game like that?

They seem much more risker than traditional gambling games. Besides the dead ends, it's also pretty common to make some wrong moves and then get stucked with your game. From the total games you played, check the percentage of winnings you have achieved. If it's superior to 50%, then it could be a good idea to be bet through them.

If casinos added this game category, I believe they would only add the hardest levels, such as that one from Patience Spider with all the colors and 4 symbols of the deck.

I agree with you, because any game can be interesting but the moment casino adds it into the game list then sorry it will become a normal gambling game which is a game of chance and luck because the casino has the alogarithm that will always make the house hedge win and for you to make profit it becomes 50-50 no matter how good you are in the game.

I believe their are games of chance, but not in the same way we could think of other casino games like dices or crash. For example, in dices, Plinko and crash the outcome of the session is decided by an random number generator, in order to make the outcome unpredictable. In the case of solitaire, the random number generator is only used to arrange the cards within the mount/deck the outcome will be mostly based on the ability the player/gambler has to organize the cards in the correct order.
I used to play solitaire a long time ago and I know it is possible to get stuck or sole the game quickly, and in part it depends on the random number generator or entropy.

There is a good reason solitaire is not a common casino game, with enough time a good player would always win.

       -     I remember this solitaire when I played it 15 years ago. I became very fond of these games. Yes, I had fun, and at the same time, it was like I became addicted to them. Because at that time, my chances were also as often as I won in our gambling.

So, for me, it can be said that this is also a game of chance, unlike other games, which is not in my opinion.

It's a fun relaxing game, but if you remember some good old movies about the Wild West, gamblers would play it alone, to occupy hands. In the time where people gambled every day and it was considered a normal activity, a way to kill time, nobody would play solitaire against other people. Therefore I think it's not a casino game and it's not a game of chance. It's like a card puzzle, that's all. You don't do puzzles to gamble with anyone.

Playing of solitaire for those that have been used to it, they could see that it's a game that has much to do with being lucky for playing it, though a little efforts also contributes to the winning nature of playing this same game, but there are many things in which we may still have to consider and know more about this same particular card game, you own a card in which its not by how experienced or smart you're, your luck bring the card your way and you will need some experience in knowing the right direction for playing it.

Yes I also often used to do games like this even on my cellphone or computer, but that's not so interesting to me at all but it's just interesting enough to spend time playing Solitaire, yes I agree with you this card game if not with having a betting opponent then this is like another game of luck.


Of course Blackjack card games will be more interesting than card games like that because it is like a long-term investment if you can improve your skills, because this game relies on good skills to get a victory, so many people are more interested in this game, Solitaire just kills boredom in time and or entertains yourself after doing typing work on the computer.

It can be... all kinds. My favorite is Spider. But who will play it?

I opened a thread about Farkle a long time ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388765.msg59457163#msg59457163 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388765.msg59457163#msg59457163). We could play it only on Betnomi, but now I don't know if there are casinos with this game... This is a game of chance, we pay for the round, and if we reach a certain number of points we win the bet. So I imagine it would be the same with solitaire games, we pay for the round and if we finish it we get the prize, of course with some limitations (no undo move or just once or twice, just one/two/three deals...), and depending on those setting we would have lower or higher odds.

Since I enjoy card games I would play Solitare for money, but like with the Farkle game, I am not sure how many others would play it... Somehow I feel it wouldn't be so popular game.

We all have good memories with these vintage games and puzzles, you won’t find someone in the Microsoft phase when we only had Windows XP in our computers, didn’t try to play Solitaire or Mines game. However, in gambling it is hard to build these games to gamble on them and compete against a casino, there will be more possibilities for the players to win, which will lead to casino bankrupt very quickly.
We can find mines game in most casinos now, but the algorithm of winning and losing is very different, the house edge will make you always lose and it is a game of luck.

In the other hand, building these games for gambling to compete against other players would be cool, for example, online poker tables which are the most common competitive gambling game other than competing against the casino which will automatically beat you in long term.

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Unfortunately, Betnomi had many great games to compete against other players rather than the house edge of casinos. But they ended up closing the casino.

A puzzle game can never be a game of chance, or game of luck as many of us often refer to it as. Puzzle games are game of the mind, it's a silent game as you said, it's a game where the player has to think deep, to easily win this type of games, one have to be of high IQ, a fast thinker and a problem solver, and I believe you understand what I mean by one being a problem solver, it simply means that; the person have to be able to think fast and come up with real solution to a problem.

Gambling casinos can never implement this type of games to their casinos, not because it's not possible to, but it's actually not a game that can make money for them, since there are no opponents in the game except you and your brain's ability to think fast and solve issues.

My bad, that was my mistake... honestly, I wanted to prove a point on how it's more of a CHANCE game than luck. Luck doesn't have to come into the context? Yes it does... They both share the same relevance in my opinion.
I'm even more confused how you quoted this but you didn't understand my post.
That's absolutely true. I'm always having my thoughts on a spotlight for an instance where there's only 2 cards left with them, and you've got 6 onboard... You're constantly thinking if the 2 cards are complimentary...

I would say solitaire is a game of chance because not all the shuffled decks have a solución, and that's why the chance and luck is involved in that game. But I wouldn't say its wise to add that game to a casino because with Ai we could find the Best solución for each game.

But it would be fun to play that game o faucets

I know about solitaire use to whirl away time with that game on my laptop  though it been long I had time for it that I even forget I have such time killer game in my gadget. ;D
Solitaire may be not a game of chance though, but if it's to be a casino game then when a player is playing any game that it isn't against a fellow player, I would consider that to be a game that is more of chance, because it's the player against the house or the game providers and all you've got with you is luck against them. Perhaps, skills may be helpful but may really not be relevant to earn wins except in cases of card games that is between individual players. My opinion.

In my opinion, the solitaire game is a game of chance and strategy. I do believe that every card game is based on chance and the good strategy of the player or gambler. Right from when I was a kid, there's this card game that the people in my place have fun playing; it's called Whot. There are some people who are experts in the game, but if they are playing with another person who is as good as them, they will also lose while playing, and that's to say, no matter how good a person has become in the game, they will still lose. Having a good strategy is what can make the player win quite often. 

I dont agree. Luck does not have to come into context because each of us has a different view of the concept of "luck."  Some people see it as a mystical force, while others view it as simply random chance.  so, in other words, "luck" is a personal concept, and for me, it boils down to a figment of the human mind to try to explain random events.  Chance, on the other hand, seems more objective.

I get your point. Playing solitaire can be quite relaxing without the need to directly compete with others. Klondike or FreeCell are interesting games in themselves, not competitive but rather like puzzles.

On the other hand, if games such as solitaire or any other puzzles were to be converted into a gambling game like poker that would host international tournaments, it would fundamentally change the very essence of those games. Although there might be a way to develop a gambling version for solitaire, the original spirit of this quiet and contemplative game is lost forever. So while it's an intriguing thought, turning solitaire into a game of chance doesn't resonate with its intrinsic nature, that peaceful gameplay stands unsuitable for any betting elements. The puzzles and all other calm games should rather remain as means for relaxation and cognitive stimulation without any involvement in gambling activities.

Solitaire is hard to be made competitive online because it wasn't made to be like this. It would be like gambling on sudoku in a way.

Of course there is the element of chance but mathematically speaking there's also always a best possible solution to solitaire so it' is not completely compatible with gambling because someone could just cheat using software to achieve the best possible solution and get above his opponents.

The only way I could imagine something like solitaire being a gambling game is if users were dealt hands and the hands were autofilled to the best possible combination to see who had the best randomly dealt hand. In this manner it's completely chance based and therefore eligible for gambling.

Using computers to beat skill based games has been an issue for social gambling for a long time and that's part of the reason serious tournaments are held in person.

It is still base on randomness, so yeah, it could still base on luck alone as there are no special skills needed to play this game. Cards are dealt to you and open it and hope that it will be in your favor, classic definition of chance or luck.

Well maybe you can say that you really need to have a good move so that you can still have some move later, however, you can't control the next card that is going to be deal with you and regardless of you think you did the best move, there is the unknown in the next card. And if there is skill then how are you going to beat the shuffle?

in some ways, yeah, I mean, in order to finish the game you need to get playable cards which I think need luck but if you are very unlucky you could end up with bad cards and make bad moves which could lead to you not being able to finish the game. I am curious how they'll make it into tournaments, will it be who can finish it the fastest wins or something else.

Of the ones you mentioned, I only know solitaire, I've played it a few times, however, it's not considered a gambling in itself, as it doesn't involve one-on-one competition with another person, as it was not designed for that. But if you want to make money or at least try to play something similar, there are blackjack and poker which are similar and were made to be played competitively.

I consider them a game of skill however, there's some luck involved in it and that happens during the shuffle. As a game of skill, you must have a strategy. You must know when to make the make the decision to make a move and if you make the wrong move, that may be your last move as there will not be any move possible again. But the luck element comes when the card is shuffled and it puts you in a position to make a lucky move.

From the get-go it's already designed to be a game of chance, mixed in with elements of strategy and tactics here and there to give you the idea that you can beat the game (which you can). And while dead-ends are most of the times caused by the player's misplay or whatnot, such a thing only happens because again, the cards are practically randomized and you have little to no idea of which card comes next, which doesn't help with your strategy at all considering that at the very least most strategy games allow you to have some element of prediction, something that is completely absent in solitaire and similar games.

In any case, I haven't heard nor seen someone actually going out of their own way to bet on solitaire lol. Especially nowadays when it's reduced to nothing but a free game you can play on your phone or directly on your computer when you don't have an internet or you're bored as balls, don't know why you would ask as if it's a very important game in today's gambling landscape or something.

Oh well, to each his own I guess. Hope that answers your question.

Although the characteristics of the solitaire game involve strategies and require creating tactics, it can't be considered a gambling game of chance in itself, but it can be the gateway if the player wants something more hardcore and starts taking risks.

To be considered a game of chance, i's generally necessary to have the possibility of betting money or something of value, taking risks with the aim of winning prizes.

Solitaire is a very interesting game in that it requires both skill and at the same time luck. The skill part is in knowing what card to play first and how to maneuver through the entire process. Now the luck is in the fact that you don't control what card you receive and you can already be defeated if you are not lucky to get the right cards.

In my sincere opinion, the skill part has more impact in the game because without skill, even if you have good cards, someone that is skillful in the game will manage to defeat you. I have a brother that is so good in the game that we all thought he was using magic to win but he doesn't, it is just mastery of the game that gave him edge over us.

Stalker, you don't have to agree with what I said... Whatever anyone views luck to be doesn't change what it is; no matter how much time it takes for a lie to be pretentiously spread, it'll never be the truth... Luck has not, and will never have any grotesque meaning that engulfs any religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to what they believe.

Again, the human mind doesn't control whatever outcome it is that you get in gambling; as long as you can't create Chances on your own to secure a win, I can safely say that whatever outcome it is, its neither affected by humans or any form of mystics..

Yes!
Gambling are all those games in which the outcome is influenced mainly by the luck factor, that is... by randomness. So, any game that has as its main device a dice, spinning tops, playing cards, roulette wheels, numbered balls or even random number generators in the case of digital games, are called gamblings. It isnt necessary to bet money on a game for it to be a gambling, but people saw these types of games as excellent opportunities to make a profit, simply by ensuring that luck was always in their favor, and that is why gambling became popular. popularized as a way to "lose or make money".

From the user's point of view, solitaire appears to be a game of pure luck, as the cards are distributed randomly on the user interface, and the organization process remains the only effort that the user will make without knowing whether he is actually following the correct order. On this basis, at first glance, it seems that it can be included in the list of gambling games.

But from the developers’ point of view, the game works with an algorithm that leads, in any case of random distribution, to a specific order that must be followed to obtain organized card lists. That is, there is clear software that makes the game not impossible to solve.On this basis, it is not a game of pure luck and its algorithms are subject to precise rules. In addition, in the solitaire game, the arrangement of the cards can be reconfigured until the solution is reached, which is not compatible with online gambling game systems in general.

This is my point of view as a user, and perhaps developers can modify the algorithms to make them suitable for gambling bets.

Solitare is classic game which very popular to computer users and i think most people at here already to playing this game before and i have been playing this game plenty using my computer and using my smartphone too because currently Solitaire was available on mobille version and it was fun and this game is suitable to playing at free time but we have to focus to finished the game and i have to says Solitaire can be considered as game of chance but sometimes too playing this game and to solved the puzzle will be required luck but unfortunately unlike other card games such as poker or blackjack this game isn't categorized as gambling games because so far we only can playing this game for free and i don't know the reasons why but some people argue why until now this game is not available in online casinos because this game is hard to played by some people because it is required the strategies to solved all of the puzzle

I don't think OP made any references to the fact that they're looking for a way to earn money by playing on card games. If any, he was only trying to understand a fact which had nothing to do with wagering on 'em.

Again, this is just another dummy head that read the post upside down. Where did he say any thing about being LUCKY?
If it were to be a game on a casino (if that's what you call a tournament) which it is already, it'll certainly be some group of options that you can select at most 3 from, which is expected to be among the last few cards after you and the system make a random pick. If I can recall clearly, this is how baccarat operates...

Remembering me a few decades ago, when I was in school, I used to play this game, and in my opinion, Solitaire cannot be said to be a game of pure luck because there are other factors that make up the cards correctly from the cards that are provided randomly.

In other words, simple understanding:
Randomly provided cards => Lucky
Arrange the cards correctly => Skill

BTW, does anyone know the gambling platform that provides the Solitaire game?
I'd like to play it again to remember the old days when playing with friends and betting a pack of food.

That must be why I have never liked solitaire or games like puzzles, because I am more of an extrovert.


How do we think about what? I don't know, maybe I'm crazy but I don't usually waste a lot of time thinking about things that are not going to happen.


They are not games of chance as such, although there is some chance in how the pieces of the puzzle look after undoing them or the cards after shuffling them.

There are too many card games that are available so I don't think they will add that one either in a tournament or a competition. I know what you are trying to point out but truthfully, that's an old-school game for old-school people like us. :D Just kidding. I loved playing that game too back when I was working in the office, boring times would come when there was no client to talk too, and thankfully, our supervisor let us play the games that were only available in the Windows default installation. But right now, working at home, I am not playing that game anymore and I don't think they will add it to gambling games. Like I said, there are just too many better games out there and even if they add it, some people could just get bored at playing it.

I must say that I think that puzzles in general and solitaire games in particular can be exciting...
 Regarding puzzles in general. You know, many years ago, such a puzzle as the “game of 15” was really gambling in its own way, because one entrepreneur offered a lot of money for solving it.
 Puzzles aren't really designed for two players by default, just one player. But in general, a casino can offer a certain coefficient for solving a puzzle for a while, the player makes a bet, and if he loses, his bet goes to the casino. Card puzzles actually develop intelligence in a way that roulette and dice rolling don't.
 As for solitaire games, they are very internally diverse. There are solitaire games with a lot of luck, like Klondike. And there are solitaire games in which all the cards in the layout are visible in advance. However, the Free Cell challenge that Windows offers has different levels of difficulty. The maximum level is “Expert”, and even higher is the random level, in which the solution to this game is not guaranteed. It is precisely these non-guaranteed levels of solitaire that can be gambling for money.

For me, solitaire brings my nervous system into calm and relaxation. The time to play solitaire is in the evening when you need to get ready for bed, and naturally, by definition, no violent emotions should arise. Hence, I don’t think that such a game can be gambling-passionate, on the contrary, it evokes completely different feelings that are absent in gambling.

No they are both driven by an individual’s skills and application of their knowledge to play. Any game that requires the player to be skillful is immediately not based on chance. However it can still be turned into a competition and people can bet on different players.

Solitaire is one of games of chance but if that is on the PC, that will only a games especially we play that games without using money. Some people having fun playing solitaire or freecell in their computer and not care with the time because my uncle always play those games. The level of the games is only for difficulty to playing the games and if you can't use high difficulty, you can use the lowest level so you have your chance to wins.

Spending our time to playing Solitaire is fun and makes curious how to finish the game. If he clever to search for how to wins, he can wins but if not, he will not wins. I missed that games since sometimes I played on those games and spend my time on that games.

I believe that any game where there is a “competitive spirit” can be subsumed under the concept of “game of chance”. Also, betting on the outcome of events is a mandatory attribute of gambling. All this taken together allows me to assume that solitaire can be included in the gambling section.

The world is changing and even in sports (the Olympic Games) new directions are emerging. For example, eSports / cybersport. Why not expand the range of games in gambling?

   
the OP never used the word "lucky" but he used the word "game of chance" by asking "Can solitaire be a game of chance?". believe it or not, you still need luck when it comes to solitaire despite it being a game of skill and relying on how you play your cards. anyway, that is the reason why I said what I said.

Solitaire as a game for introverts? Hmm.., I don't really think so. I'm an introvert but why I don't feel something that is special about this game? Not only this but also to other card games. I just think they are hard to understand but I do like other puzzle games. Rubiks cube is my favourite among all. Solitaire is a famous game and I think there are also competitions that are built for it. If this game is included in the gambling sites, then this is the common place for it.

I think you can get lucky to solve some types of puzzles that aren't hard as a rubiks cube, so yes we can say that they can also be a game of chance. If you are playing for tournament purposes or there is a money at stake, I think you will take things seriously by studying the game and not just that you will depend on your luck.

Yes, solitaire/FreeCell can be considered games of chance, but I really doubt that any casino would turn these games into gambling games.
These games are boring as hell. I've played them on my Windows PC several times and I get bored after 5 minutes. Maybe that's why no casino has accepted them as gambling games. I also don't know how the gambling element could be added to such game. For example, you bet 5 dollars, solve the game for a given time frame and win 10 dollars. If you fail to solve the game in that time frame, you lose your bet and your money goes to another player, who solved the game. Anyway, those games are still boring to me.

This is game that is played quite lot by some people who don't really like crowds or group games that involve lots of people in every activity, you are right, games like this are usually liked by introverted people.
Game that requires patience, focus and calm to be able to complete it, there are many types of solitaire games and it can also be said to be game that works like puzzle.
I seen some people play solitaire games that sort the cards, it silly but lot of people like it, there no adrenaline and no fun at all in my opinion but it not like game of chance.
Intelligence and skill are really needed to complete it, if this were in gambling I'm not sure many people would like it, after all the dealer will only offer games where they can get an edge.

Puzzles can not be classified as games of chance because all clues have been shown to you, it only needs critical thinking to arrange them. Casinos can not have games like puzzles because there's no chance or luck in it, except they'll put time frame that the player have to beat and win, but I guess that they're not into that kind of timekeeping. Solitaire has elements of chance because of the unknown variables but like puzzles they're not luck based and casinos can not put them up as games for gamblers to play.

If you had played solitaire for just a short time you'd realize that it is only a game of chance. You will not be able to win every game, even if you played the perfectly, because of the way it has been designed. You can even type into google and see the statistics - only around 80% of games are winnable. I sure there are versions of solitaire out there which have been engineered to give the house an edge and thereby become viable casino games, however you will always be in a long term losing position if a gambling company is willing to offer a game to you - they do not do that out of kindness, it's because they see the potential to make money from it on every customer that plays.

You can develop the game to be such that it pitches two players against one another like a PvP mode and based on the number of seconds spent and the number of cards correctly put in the upper four suits, develop the winning system.

On the basis of that you could have a gambling game.

It is not a game of chance but it can always be nice to add some "spice" to it by adding gambling elements.

Are there really special skills to solve the solitaire game? ::)
personally I have some doubts about this point, at least for the classic versions we have seen/we know kowadays.
I don't know how much "fun" it really is to bet on a game like this... but it wouldn't surprise me to see variations on the games known today before these games will be launched in a casino.

Since solitaire is combination between skill and luck, of course there are some skills needed in order to solve a single game.
I'm not a fan of solitaire though but I believe no one will be able to solve solitaire game without skills.
You can try to search on google or ask chatgpt lol and you will find what skils are needed to play solitaire.
Coming up to the main question, I dont think it can be a game of chance since it is skill based game than just game of chance.
I do not even think that there will be casino will have solitaire game to be played as I think it will be complicated to count the payout of the game.

It's possible to happen.

As long as there is a group or a community that is composed of the same people that have interest of playing the game. I'm not sure about the game itself but maybe developing it with some kind of twist that will also be liked by the community.

But if it's about competitions, there is always a possibility as long as the people come altogether to build and start it such tournaments.

Solitaire is a form of card game there's a designated number of cards and this could be played with a strategy game and just beat with a timer but of course seems I've seen few casino offering this game but unlike other like slots people less prefer this game so they didn't promote too much in this game. Also, its a one-player game so all you need is to finish the game before the timer runs out so not quite interesting this could be a casual game only to play not for gamble.

I consider it a game of chance; I play solitaire using cards. I've been doing this since I learned how to use a computer, and during our free time in school and at work later, we bet on solitaires. Yes, there are strategies, but it's still a game of chance, and since we usually do this using a timer, the fastest wins a pot of cash, so you have to be quick-thinking, and you can do that if you are a long-time solitaire player.

I have studied the game of Solitaire, but at the moment I can't show a good level in card games, let alone the hard level, for the easy level which is the easiest I can't make good cards for all four, Even though the Solitaire game was popular in its time around the 90s, many of my friends wanted to try the game.

 In theory the Solitaire game is easy, but in practice it looks difficult, even though the game is built into Windows, it looks easy but is difficult to play, filling in the four Goals columns in sequence is not easy as discussed, I tried repeatedly, but the results still didn't match my expectations, it's clear to me that Solitaire is a game of chance, if you're lucky you can finish four cards in a row, if not, you're definitely not lucky.

I’m not aware of this version of solitaire with timer because I play only the classic version available on my PC but it surely gives adrenaline rush if you will add timer on a solitaire game.

Actually, Playing solitaire is very time consuming for me because I play it slowly. I think it’s very hard to apply gambling on this kind of game because it’s same with chess that it’s more on skills due to its pattern on solving the game unlike typical casino games that relies on win/lose result on every move that provides quick profit to the casino with their house edge.

Let us consider to understand what gambling is first.
Gambling is an activity or event that engages on competition or daring games with a particular motive where stakes of money or valuables are involved to reward winners. Meanwhile... This could be online or offline gaming event.

Most of the games seems to be more convenient for introvert as specified has become boring that even them as introverts would enjoy the game if it is connected online that they can play with friends probably as a tournament.
So, if two friends can be possible to play the game on a friendly mode in an online connection, then it can as much become a game for gambling with friends or if being considered in the casino games, of course one can play with the robots according to how the game maker has p programed it.

Then literally it becomes a game of luck because you definitely going to bring your best to beat an opponent just as the cheers.

If it's puzzle then I don't think it is the game of chance because it comes under the skill category. And it is too far away from being realistic because it doesn't have enough reason for for a gambling house to make money with such games so unless it is played in non incentivised manner just as we do play for killing our time these games are hard enough even to exist with the evolution era especially in the gaming category.

I don't compare a game of solitaire with puzzles. Puzzles can be solved or formed to how it should look like. Puzzles have designs that you can achieve. That goal could be reached or not depending on your capacity, but even if you can't make it, it doesn't mean that it can't be solved or formed properly.

This isn't how solitaire games are like. A game of solitaire could be won or lost. It is purely out of luck that you win. It doesn't involve skills. Although focus makes you avoid errors, there are card arrangements that simply can't be won.

Unlike the first version of Solitaire Free cell game are almost all winnable so you will have a games that is always winnable as gamble? That doesn't sound like much competition. Second, if you go with Solitaire and team play or competitions, how would you deal if both teams roll up an unwinnable deck or worse of all just one does?

It's too much of a chance game for competition and too predictable for gambling and as you can see, that's why we don't have them.

Hmmm 🤔 I don’t think you could really make it a gambling game unless you bet on like how fast they could win or lose by? Idk that’s a good question because I too love Solitaire and now I am curious if they offer some sort of gambling game if anyone does. I have it in my car lol I play it when I get bored but I wouldn’t mind making some money and playing!!

I would agree with you. Gambling is more seen as a game of chance and luck, so everything that does not fall with gambling, hence I can't tell that it's still a game of chance. With solitaire, if it's not included in gambling games, then I can't say it's a game of chance,  but just a pure game for past time, a game that will challenge our intellect, and above all a game for patient people who will definitely take a lot of time until one will come to arrange the cards in a systematic order.

It's not really a chance based game so rather unlikely imo. Even if you introduce time limits to it it'd just turn into a competition and not a gamble, otherwise countless puzzle games would've already been a thing.

Pretty right in thinking it was unrealistic and no, they can never be.  At least the base game could never be. A twist or something might be able to pull it off but at that point is it still solitaire?

If there is a limit on the number of moves in solving puzzles and you cannot “make a move back,” then they are no different from solitaire games. In this case, a lot will depend on simple luck and not on the skill of the player (exactly what is needed to create the mechanics of a gambling game), another question is whether anyone needs this? There are already many classic gambling games, and endless variations of slots appear all the time that imitate a wide variety of mechanics, including puzzles and solitaire.

They actually have a mode where once you start a game of solitaire you start out 52$ in debt. Each card you place in the pikes up top, 2$ comes off that -52. Basically you need to clear 26 cards to break even, anything else is profit.

It's fake money obviously and meant to just make the game more interesting, but I have always wondered if there is somewhere to play thos for real.