Can solitaire be a game of chance?

[Sandra_hakeem]

Yes, it needs skills to win the game but the fact that the arrangement of the deck is unknown and greatly affect the outcome of the game, it can be considered a game of chance.

My bad, that was my mistake... honestly, I wanted to prove a point on how it's more of a CHANCE game than luck. Luck doesn't have to come into the context? Yes it does... They both share the same relevance in my opinion.

playing against the hosting sever itself needs a very calculative and critical movement and decision making, which has nothing to do with LUCK or CHANCE.

I'm even more confused how you quoted this but you didn't understand my post.

The arrangement of the deck does have something to do with the chance of completing the game.  

That's absolutely true. I'm always having my thoughts on a spotlight for an instance where there's only 2 cards left with them, and you've got 6 onboard... You're constantly thinking if the 2 cards are complimentary...

[seoincorporation]

I would say solitaire is a game of chance because not all the shuffled decks have a solución, and that's why the chance and luck is involved in that game. But I wouldn't say its wise to add that game to a casino because with Ai we could find the Best solución for each game.

But it would be fun to play that game o faucets

[Lida93]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

I know about solitaire use to whirl away time with that game on my laptop  though it been long I had time for it that I even forget I have such time killer game in my gadget.
Solitaire may be not a game of chance though, but if it's to be a casino game then when a player is playing any game that it isn't against a fellow player, I would consider that to be a game that is more of chance, because it's the player against the house or the game providers and all you've got with you is luck against them. Perhaps, skills may be helpful but may really not be relevant to earn wins except in cases of card games that is between individual players. My opinion.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

In my opinion, the solitaire game is a game of chance and strategy. I do believe that every card game is based on chance and the good strategy of the player or gambler. Right from when I was a kid, there's this card game that the people in my place have fun playing; it's called Whot. There are some people who are experts in the game, but if they are playing with another person who is as good as them, they will also lose while playing, and that's to say, no matter how good a person has become in the game, they will still lose. Having a good strategy is what can make the player win quite often. 

[Stalker22]

Yes, it needs skills to win the game but the fact that the arrangement of the deck is unknown and greatly affect the outcome of the game, it can be considered a game of chance.

My bad, that was my mistake... honestly, I wanted to prove a point on how it's more of a CHANCE game than luck. Luck doesn't have to come into the context? Yes it does... They both share the same relevance in my opinion.

I dont agree. Luck does not have to come into context because each of us has a different view of the concept of "luck."  Some people see it as a mystical force, while others view it as simply random chance.  so, in other words, "luck" is a personal concept, and for me, it boils down to a figment of the human mind to try to explain random events.  Chance, on the other hand, seems more objective.

[Juse14]

I get your point. Playing solitaire can be quite relaxing without the need to directly compete with others. Klondike or FreeCell are interesting games in themselves, not competitive but rather like puzzles.

On the other hand, if games such as solitaire or any other puzzles were to be converted into a gambling game like poker that would host international tournaments, it would fundamentally change the very essence of those games. Although there might be a way to develop a gambling version for solitaire, the original spirit of this quiet and contemplative game is lost forever. So while it's an intriguing thought, turning solitaire into a game of chance doesn't resonate with its intrinsic nature, that peaceful gameplay stands unsuitable for any betting elements. The puzzles and all other calm games should rather remain as means for relaxation and cognitive stimulation without any involvement in gambling activities.

[alani123]

Solitaire is hard to be made competitive online because it wasn't made to be like this. It would be like gambling on sudoku in a way.

Of course there is the element of chance but mathematically speaking there's also always a best possible solution to solitaire so it' is not completely compatible with gambling because someone could just cheat using software to achieve the best possible solution and get above his opponents.

The only way I could imagine something like solitaire being a gambling game is if users were dealt hands and the hands were autofilled to the best possible combination to see who had the best randomly dealt hand. In this manner it's completely chance based and therefore eligible for gambling.

Using computers to beat skill based games has been an issue for social gambling for a long time and that's part of the reason serious tournaments are held in person.

[Kemarit]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

It is still base on randomness, so yeah, it could still base on luck alone as there are no special skills needed to play this game. Cards are dealt to you and open it and hope that it will be in your favor, classic definition of chance or luck.

Well maybe you can say that you really need to have a good move so that you can still have some move later, however, you can't control the next card that is going to be deal with you and regardless of you think you did the best move, there is the unknown in the next card. And if there is skill then how are you going to beat the shuffle?

[acroman08]

Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

in some ways, yeah, I mean, in order to finish the game you need to get playable cards which I think need luck but if you are very unlucky you could end up with bad cards and make bad moves which could lead to you not being able to finish the game. I am curious how they'll make it into tournaments, will it be who can finish it the fastest wins or something else.

[Forsyth Jones]

Of the ones you mentioned, I only know solitaire, I've played it a few times, however, it's not considered a gambling in itself, as it doesn't involve one-on-one competition with another person, as it was not designed for that. But if you want to make money or at least try to play something similar, there are blackjack and poker which are similar and were made to be played competitively.

[Davidvictorson]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

I consider them a game of skill however, there's some luck involved in it and that happens during the shuffle. As a game of skill, you must have a strategy. You must know when to make the make the decision to make a move and if you make the wrong move, that may be your last move as there will not be any move possible again. But the luck element comes when the card is shuffled and it puts you in a position to make a lucky move.

[Casdinyard]

From the get-go it's already designed to be a game of chance, mixed in with elements of strategy and tactics here and there to give you the idea that you can beat the game (which you can). And while dead-ends are most of the times caused by the player's misplay or whatnot, such a thing only happens because again, the cards are practically randomized and you have little to no idea of which card comes next, which doesn't help with your strategy at all considering that at the very least most strategy games allow you to have some element of prediction, something that is completely absent in solitaire and similar games.

In any case, I haven't heard nor seen someone actually going out of their own way to bet on solitaire lol. Especially nowadays when it's reduced to nothing but a free game you can play on your phone or directly on your computer when you don't have an internet or you're bored as balls, don't know why you would ask as if it's a very important game in today's gambling landscape or something.

Oh well, to each his own I guess. Hope that answers your question.

[Forsyth Jones]

From the get-go it's already designed to be a game of chance, mixed in with elements of strategy and tactics here and there to give you the idea that you can beat the game (which you can). And while dead-ends are most of the times caused by the player's misplay or whatnot, such a thing only happens because again, the cards are practically randomized and you have little to no idea of which card comes next, which doesn't help with your strategy at all considering that at the very least most strategy games allow you to have some element of prediction, something that is completely absent in solitaire and similar games.

In any case, I haven't heard nor seen someone actually going out of their own way to bet on solitaire lol. Especially nowadays when it's reduced to nothing but a free game you can play on your phone or directly on your computer when you don't have an internet or you're bored as balls, don't know why you would ask as if it's a very important game in today's gambling landscape or something.

Oh well, to each his own I guess. Hope that answers your question.

Although the characteristics of the solitaire game involve strategies and require creating tactics, it can't be considered a gambling game of chance in itself, but it can be the gateway if the player wants something more hardcore and starts taking risks.

To be considered a game of chance, i's generally necessary to have the possibility of betting money or something of value, taking risks with the aim of winning prizes.

[Odohu]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Solitaire is a very interesting game in that it requires both skill and at the same time luck. The skill part is in knowing what card to play first and how to maneuver through the entire process. Now the luck is in the fact that you don't control what card you receive and you can already be defeated if you are not lucky to get the right cards.

In my sincere opinion, the skill part has more impact in the game because without skill, even if you have good cards, someone that is skillful in the game will manage to defeat you. I have a brother that is so good in the game that we all thought he was using magic to win but he doesn't, it is just mastery of the game that gave him edge over us.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I dont agree. Luck does not have to come into context because each of us has a different view of the concept of "luck."  Some people see it as a mystical force, while others view it as simply random chance.  so, in other words, "luck" is a personal concept, and for me, it boils down to a figment of the human mind to try to explain random events.  Chance, on the other hand, seems more objective.

Stalker, you don't have to agree with what I said... Whatever anyone views luck to be doesn't change what it is; no matter how much time it takes for a lie to be pretentiously spread, it'll never be the truth... Luck has not, and will never have any grotesque meaning that engulfs any religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to what they believe.

Again, the human mind doesn't control whatever outcome it is that you get in gambling; as long as you can't create Chances on your own to secure a win, I can safely say that whatever outcome it is, its neither affected by humans or any form of mystics..

[alegotardo]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Yes!
Gambling are all those games in which the outcome is influenced mainly by the luck factor, that is... by randomness. So, any game that has as its main device a dice, spinning tops, playing cards, roulette wheels, numbered balls or even random number generators in the case of digital games, are called gamblings. It isnt necessary to bet money on a game for it to be a gambling, but people saw these types of games as excellent opportunities to make a profit, simply by ensuring that luck was always in their favor, and that is why gambling became popular. popularized as a way to "lose or make money".

[Kavelj22]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

From the user's point of view, solitaire appears to be a game of pure luck, as the cards are distributed randomly on the user interface, and the organization process remains the only effort that the user will make without knowing whether he is actually following the correct order. On this basis, at first glance, it seems that it can be included in the list of gambling games.

But from the developers’ point of view, the game works with an algorithm that leads, in any case of random distribution, to a specific order that must be followed to obtain organized card lists. That is, there is clear software that makes the game not impossible to solve.On this basis, it is not a game of pure luck and its algorithms are subject to precise rules. In addition, in the solitaire game, the arrangement of the cards can be reconfigured until the solution is reached, which is not compatible with online gambling game systems in general.

This is my point of view as a user, and perhaps developers can modify the algorithms to make them suitable for gambling bets.

[bering]

Solitare is classic game which very popular to computer users and i think most people at here already to playing this game before and i have been playing this game plenty using my computer and using my smartphone too because currently Solitaire was available on mobille version and it was fun and this game is suitable to playing at free time but we have to focus to finished the game and i have to says Solitaire can be considered as game of chance but sometimes too playing this game and to solved the puzzle will be required luck but unfortunately unlike other card games such as poker or blackjack this game isn't categorized as gambling games because so far we only can playing this game for free and i don't know the reasons why but some people argue why until now this game is not available in online casinos because this game is hard to played by some people because it is required the strategies to solved all of the puzzle

[Sandra_hakeem]

But if you want to make money or at least try to play something similar, there are blackjack and poker which are similar and were made to be played competitively.

I don't think OP made any references to the fact that they're looking for a way to earn money by playing on card games. If any, he was only trying to understand a fact which had nothing to do with wagering on 'em.

in some ways, yeah, I mean, in order to finish the game you need to get playable cards which I think need luck but if you are very unlucky you could end up with bad cards and make bad moves which could lead to you not being able to finish the game. I am curious how they'll make it into tournaments, will it be who can finish it the fastest wins or something else.

Again, this is just another dummy head that read the post upside down. Where did he say any thing about being LUCKY?
If it were to be a game on a casino (if that's what you call a tournament) which it is already, it'll certainly be some group of options that you can select at most 3 from, which is expected to be among the last few cards after you and the system make a random pick. If I can recall clearly, this is how baccarat operates...

[len01]

Remembering me a few decades ago, when I was in school, I used to play this game, and in my opinion, Solitaire cannot be said to be a game of pure luck because there are other factors that make up the cards correctly from the cards that are provided randomly.

In other words, simple understanding:
Randomly provided cards => Lucky
Arrange the cards correctly => Skill

BTW, does anyone know the gambling platform that provides the Solitaire game?
I'd like to play it again to remember the old days when playing with friends and betting a pack of food.