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Title: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 02:53:10 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Oshosondy on July 22, 2024, 02:58:29 PM
Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Findingnemo on July 22, 2024, 02:58:58 PM
Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab. Making money is secondary and it happens with rarest of people but most of them just lose their money in the long run cause that's how gambling works.

If you see someone is doing without able to control then give them a warning like take a break for a while.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Frankolala on July 22, 2024, 03:07:26 PM
Addiction is harmful to one's health directly or indirectly which makes it not to be in the positive side but negative side because you are losing money all the time and you cannot control yourself to stop gambling. People that can benefit from the positive side of gambling are not addicted to gambling.

Addiction can ruin a gamblers life or even lead the gambler to taking his own life due to frustration, poverty and abandonment by family members. There is nothing positive that can come out from gambling addiction. You lose, your money, sense of thinking and maybe your loved ones.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: KTChampions on July 22, 2024, 03:07:38 PM
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My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

I don’t think that any unprofitable activity on which a person becomes addicted can be positive. Another thing is the very fact that a particular person is able to actively get carried away by something. If today it’s gambling and tomorrow it’s something useful in which he can improve and reach heights, then this is, of course, positive. My point of view is that if a person is addicted on something (actively, in the sense that he actually does something and does not dream) then this is better than if he goes with the flow and is not addicted on anything.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: alani123 on July 22, 2024, 03:08:05 PM
Addiction can not be positive. This is simply because the very definition of addiction defines very negative consequences. Gambling addiction in specific is tied with financial ruin which in turn also has various societal effects. For instance gambling addicted people may ask or just simply grab without authorization money from their relatives or acquaintances.

Really though if you consider any positive effect of gambling you have to consider that gambling as an activity is prone to addiction so if you consider anything positive you have to avoid addiction to have a positive effect.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Accardo on July 22, 2024, 03:40:04 PM
I think we engaged in that argument for quite a long time ago and whenever I see your name I remember it. However, opening this thread still shows my responses wasn't enough to change your perspective. Addiction can be caused through hobby. If you say positive addiction is a kissing cousin to hobby, then, maybe, a new synonym to hobby has been found. The moment a person can't control himself anymore towards what was his hobby, he's now addicted.

And nothing positive is with addiction to add the word "positive" behind the word. Although the word exists for some analysis other than how you see it. Most writer use positive addiction to define excessive reading habit, playing of football, sleeping, etc. Some of these positive activities which when addicted to it, we won't get harmed mentally. Then, gambling, drugs, and sex addictions are not positive to a person's mental status and can't be tagged positive addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: danherbias07 on July 22, 2024, 03:45:55 PM
Let's say a guy is addicted to helping people. Is that a good thing or bad? It's a good thing when the one that is looking is a stranger. It could be a bad thing if it is the relatives or close family members who are looking. Why? Simply because some of them will think that guy is wasting time, effort, and money on helping other people when he can use it to help them first.
Perspectives, and points of view, will differ on the one who is looking. Addiction means abuse but there are people who are doing it the other way just like the example above. When it comes to gambling, I don't think it will do any good. It is an expensive hobby and there's no way it could be good for anyone who is looking at it. Neither stranger, nor close relatives will see it as a good thing.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Falconer on July 22, 2024, 03:49:38 PM
Gambling addiction is not considered to have a positive impact on gamblers, regardless of whether they win regularly or lose more frequently. After all, perhaps you will admit that no gambler can win bets regularly in every game and will inevitably experience losses. It is a wrong mindset to think that gambling is worthy of being a source of income, so I don't agree with you.

Gambling is entertainment, not a source of income. If you really want to earn income from gambling which then has a positive impact on your financial side, then become a bookie instead of a gambling addict.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Yatsan on July 22, 2024, 03:54:25 PM
No addiction is positive. Perhaps you are winning in the long run but the question will always be "until when?"
Point here is addiction, meaning, if you ever experience losing continuously after your victory run, you would still be continuing to bet and to get back to it. Addiction means too much of a particular thing or activity and it will also affect your daily living. Regardless of your purpose whether it is helping other people or not, always set limits to anything you do, in the long run. If it is helping you are wanting then for sure there are other means to do so. Deal breaker here is the word addiction. If you still manage to control yourself then you're not on that level and that also means you're still doing fine with gambling.
Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.
Frequency and emotional involvement will be the determinant whether you are addicted already or not. If you find it hard to stop then you are most likely problematic. If you are lacking awareness of how things are doing then that's the point of addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: topbitcoin on July 22, 2024, 03:58:34 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
My understanding is that addiction is almost nothing positive, even addiction to good things can become bad things in the end, because addiction is excessive behavior in doing anything, not wanting to stop and overdoing it, which honestly in this life we need to be balanced in anything, it is the capital of a better life that is safe and peaceful and unpretentious if we have balanced habits.

Unfortunately, maybe he really believes that gambling addiction provides positive things for him, even though it is not necessarily like that, maybe he is not aware of what he has done and what he has not done in his life so he feels that addiction is good for him.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on July 22, 2024, 04:00:29 PM
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Yes, there have been similar topics like this one.. I've heard several stories about addiction and at some point, it was a trending discussion on this board.

I don't know what positivity in addition would look like, but let's be real; if you're in a prison without the possibility of parole and you're trying to create an instance in your mind that you're in the most comfortable place you'd ever think of, does it make sense to you? It shouldn't I guess. For everytime, you're being faced with reality and that's it. I don't really agree to whatever benefits might addiction might have .


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: dansus021 on July 22, 2024, 04:14:13 PM
Can't gambling addiction also be positive? To be honest I don't think being addicted to gambling is a good thing unless you always hit the jackpot all the time and make you rich because of it, if that the case get addicted is probably fine by most people haha. But in reality, most of gambling addiction leads to something bad and sometimes it can go crazy and some people become criminals.

But in my opinion addicted to something can be positive like into hobby that can give you a stream of income and benefit you. In this case as long legal and don't break rule addicting can be positive.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: uchegod-21 on July 22, 2024, 04:17:14 PM
Gambling addiction is not considered to have a positive impact on gamblers, regardless of whether they win regularly or lose more frequently. After all, perhaps you will admit that no gambler can win bets regularly in every game and will inevitably experience losses. It is a wrong mindset to think that gambling is worthy of being a source of income, so I don't agree with you.

Gambling is entertainment, not a source of income. If you really want to earn income from gambling which then has a positive impact on your financial side, then become a bookie instead of a gambling addict.
The misunderstanding OP had was because he took the word "addiction" out of context. If we consider addiction to be an activity that unduly interferes in our daily lives (whether the activity has a negative or positive impact), provided that it has a steady interference in our daily endeavours, it is addiction.
Can you imagine these;
  • You are at work, and you open a tab in your laptop to place bet.
  • You are in the church and as the sermon is going on, you are gambling.
  • You wake by 2am, just to check if your tickets are red or green.
In each of these situations, whether you win or you lose, doesn't matter, what matters is that you are addicted.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: $crypto$ on July 22, 2024, 04:29:46 PM
Addiction in gambling is nothing positive this can result in losing a lot of money because if you are addicted anything will be done including risky actions where they can embezzle funds to fulfill gambling desires due to addiction.

People will not justify gambling addiction to be positive because the fact is that more bad things happen what we see.

Unlike a hobby, maybe it won't have a worse impact, with the word hobby, for example gambling, he can play when there is free time or more money will not force him, but in contrast to addiction, any form of money will be used.

This is my own view of gambling addiction which is not positive.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Hispo on July 22, 2024, 04:32:48 PM
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If we use the term "addiction", it means we are talking about an habit which is out of the mental control of the person who suffers from it. I believe there is nothing positive to get from being addicted to gambling or addicted to anything.
There is a good reason even reliable casinos offer exclusion services and allow those who are considered to be problem gamblers to stay away from their gambling floors, even casinos acknowledge the existence of negative impacts of gambling addiction on the life of those who cannot control themselves.
It would not matter if the person managed to get some earnings from their gambling sessions, because of the addiction, they would not stop and withdraw their money, losing it to the casino again.

Anyone who is known to suffer from addiction needs to stop and seek professional help, not to excuse themselves.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: nimogsm on July 22, 2024, 04:45:18 PM
A hobby rather refers to something that brings us pleasure and makes us better at something in some specific skills and abilities. But addiction is a little different, this is from a psychological aspect, so I wouldn’t put them next to each other. You can live without a hobby for a long time and There will be no damage to the nervous system, but with addiction things will definitely be different.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: panjul07 on July 22, 2024, 04:46:55 PM
Maybe the only positive side of gambling addiction is when someone is addicted but he always get luck when he is doing it.
Of course it is a rare situation to happen but it does not mean impossible to happen.
Who knows that there is an addicted gambler but he is lucky enough to have better luck and he is still on profit while he is addicted?
However, the negative side is much bigger, no doubt about because the terminology of addiction itself is something negative.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Juse14 on July 22, 2024, 04:47:00 PM
It is crucial to keep in mind that gambling addiction can have severe detrimental effects for many individuals, including not limited to financial difficulties, emotional turmoil, and social disintegration. A person's life can be consumed by uncontrollable gambling addiction that leads to colossal losses and obliterates any semblance of normalcy.

In this manner, although there are advantages to gambling when done responsibly, it is also necessary to understand the risks and consequences of negative effects. One must maintain a precarious balance to not allow gambling to compromise their wellness.

In the end, how gambling addiction is seen depends primarily on how an individual manages it and the extent to which it affects their life. Such a healthy exchange of thoughts creates an atmosphere that encourages mutual understanding, that must be positively upheld.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Awaklara on July 22, 2024, 05:07:35 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
For me, addiction is a form of the impact of excessive activity. Anything in excess is certainly not good, therefore there needs to be control to balance everything.
as an example of a good hobby, but if it is excessive it can have a bad impact because it does not set boundaries. If exercise is excessive and exceeds the body's limits, the effects can be bad for the body.
I think it's the same with gambling. when you don't set boundaries and you become addicted, I'm sure there will be no positive impact on you. because we know that even in sports betting where we can analyze the odds, the results will not always be correct.

I don't know of any gamblers who can actually get consistent profits in the game. Moreover, it becomes a reason for gambling to be used as a main source of income or as a job.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: _act_ on July 22, 2024, 05:08:17 PM
Maybe the only positive side of gambling addiction is when someone is addicted but he always get luck when he is doing it.
If someone is addicted to gambling and the person is gambling frequently, the person will be losing. The truth is that is how gambling is. If someone is addicted, the person will continue to gamble and lose money. It is better not to be addicted at all and be using the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. This will help the person not to be addicted because addiction from gambling start from seeing gambling as a means of making money. That is the motivation that encourages the gamblers, resulting into the addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Davidvictorson on July 22, 2024, 06:10:59 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
My view on this is that any where you read the word "addiction", it always connotes something negative which it truly is. In my estimation, addiction is a maladaptive behaviour that affects the daily functioning of the individual suffering from it. It is not adaptive. It doesn't enable the addict to live their life to their fullest potential or actualize their dreams. It destroys relationships, careers, and throws one into bad psychological state. In summary, gambling addiction cannot be positive. The only positive from gambling is if one is passionate about it and is disciplined enough to set rules and boundaries for himself which he abides by thereby leading to more positives in terms of it being a stress relieving activity and all.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: acroman08 on July 22, 2024, 06:13:35 PM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
the thing about addiction is that it is a mental issue, while it is good that you can earn regularly from gambling, you still have a mental illness that can affect your daily activity, social activity and overall well-being. sure, you have money from gambling but that one positive aspect you get from it(winning from gambling) can be overshadowed by the other issues that you have because of your addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Wakate on July 22, 2024, 06:19:28 PM
Maybe the only positive side of gambling addiction is when someone is addicted but he always get luck when he is doing it.
If someone is addicted to gambling and the person is gambling frequently, the person will be losing. The truth is that is how gambling is. If someone is addicted, the person will continue to gamble and lose money. It is better not to be addicted at all and be using the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. This will help the person not to be addicted because addiction from gambling start from seeing gambling as a means of making money. That is the motivation that encourages the gamblers, resulting into the addiction.
How I wish op is able to understand what gambling addiction is all about. There is no way addiction will be positive when we don't have the full control of our mindset. It is good we understand that when we are too doing something too much is bad. This is one of the problem many gamblers are facing and we need to understand that. Addiction is not as simple task as we think so we need to know that it is an extra urge to keep doing something over and over again without our real mindset. There are still gamblers that are fighting too hard to work on there addiction so they will not have to end up playing games too much which can lead to severe loses.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on July 22, 2024, 06:39:28 PM
Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.
Rightly said there, positive addictions is call a hobby while negative addictions is call a addictions, although this is not grammatically correct, but generally acceptable, but the question is, addictions seems to be what control someone emotionally and financially, so can hobby that is taking money out of our pocket still be seen as negative addictions even though it doesn't have physically negative impact on the person?


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: iv4n on July 22, 2024, 06:48:20 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

When we grow up, we realize that everything in this world has two sides, like a coin, there is a good side and a bad side. I have repeated many times here that we are all addicts... the only things that differentiate us are:

1. What we are addicted to?
2. Whether that addiction controls us or we control it.

What is addiction? Something we like to do over and over again, an action that repeats itself every day. It can be anything, and the main thing is always whether we can control it or not, if we can't it will eat us sooner or later. As we get older we learn, obviously some people never get it, and some get it too late... don't be that guy.

So as long as a hobby (in this case gambling) is all about fun & entertainment it's great, it will have positive effects on you. But if you overdo it, and go deeper in the rabbit hole your world will become more complex.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: BABY SHOES on July 22, 2024, 07:10:54 PM
Gambling addiction is more bad things that they experience, maybe we have heard about the destruction of someone in gambling due to addiction that cannot be stopped because this has a bad impact so it is often considered negative for some people, I myself define this as bad there is no positive because it is more about wanting to continue playing without knowing time.

From what side will addiction be positive, even we often discuss about addiction almost all lead this is a bad thing.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: AliMan on July 22, 2024, 07:24:37 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

Some people think about it in reverse despite the fact that it's making them drowned to several circumstances. The pride was too high, self acceptance is the problem in most certain mindset because when it comes to fun with gambling a person used to ignore some situations.
Even though they've been challenged on this addiction, their self pride remains firm its because of different thoughts that won't be diverted into new scope of reliable ideas that helps us flee from bad habits.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: darkangel11 on July 22, 2024, 07:27:07 PM
No addiction can be positive. I mean you can look for some positive aspects, like a TV addict can also learn from it by watching some educational programs, or you can say that it's better if a gambler is a gambler, at least he's not taking drugs, right? :D The bottom line is that no matter how many positives there are the negatives will always outweigh them. When you compare all the pros and cons the result is going to be negative. 


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Fortify on July 22, 2024, 07:59:29 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

If you consider there are many types of gambling and certain kinds like poker can require a lot of mental dexterity, there are definitely positives that can come out of it. Like you said, gambling can act as a form of relaxation and entertainment for some people, as long as they understand the risks it is the same as any other game. I've seen people throw thousands of dollars away on skins in some games with zero chance of being able to make anything back from them. Different games can also act as a social event and bring groups of friends together - again, if everyone is having fun and knows that there is likely to be one winner with others losing, then it can be a way to have fun.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: letteredhub on July 22, 2024, 08:01:52 PM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
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Addiction gets to do with being tied to something which you can't do or feel normal without, it's losing your freedom because it's as though the individual is enslaved to that which he's addicted to. It's about doing or taking up an activity excessively beyond normal and It is for this that I don't agree that there's any good addiction.  
We all take part in this gambling of a thing, and  we all know that there's no such thing happening as a regular  earning in sport betting or casino games it has always been the other way around. If anyone wanna have fun or take it as an enjoyable hobby, fine, but never embark on it excessively cause there's no fun in addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: shivansps on July 22, 2024, 08:21:31 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

I think there is a very simple answer to your message here. The answer is in the message itself. If these people are not financially problematic and everything is fine in their lives, then this will be just a hobby and entertainment. If a lot of money is lost in gambling, then this can no longer be called a hobby; if a person loses more money in gambling than he receives, then this may soon become a problem. So the line here is very blurry.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on July 22, 2024, 09:02:03 PM

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

Well let me correct one impression here which is 'regular earnings in gambling'. There is nothing like regular earnings in gambling' even if a gambler wins most of the times but it can never be on a regular basis so I don't believe anyone earns regularly on gambling except those that do person to person form of gambling whereby one person can know a particular game more than the other person but for online gambling, be it slot games, casinos or sports betting all depends on luck and chance. Addiction is mostly used to express a negative feelings so if a gambler wins most of the time then it's not an addiction. But even if a gambler wins most times it doesn't mean they should depend on it as a source of income. It can fail one day and all your winnings vanishes


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Antotena on July 22, 2024, 09:05:53 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

There are people that has made money a working class person will never make and they have never made a loss that is going to send back to trenches, they legitimately makes all their money in gambling and it's working for them like if you should give them money to work, they threw that on you and take their gambling serious because they have their businesses established from gambling money they are making and if you are not talking about gambling, you are not saying anything.

Gambling doesn't work for everyone but if you spend your time on it and it pays your bill without any debt, you have my support to do it for full job as long as you are making the money. Who cares about addiction when some people spend all their time in their job as hobbies and make nothing. It's ridiculous how people don't see a single good side of money that's comes from gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Franctoshi on July 22, 2024, 09:17:58 PM
Addiction can not be positive. This is simply because the very definition of addiction defines very negative consequences. Gambling addiction in specific is tied with financial ruin which in turn also has various societal effects. For instance gambling addicted people may ask or just simply grab without authorization money from their relatives or acquaintances.

Really though if you consider any positive effect of gambling you have to consider that gambling as an activity is prone to addiction so if you consider anything positive you have to avoid addiction to have a positive effect.
Even not only about addiction in terms of its financial ruin that follows it but also the mental health effects that follows after one must have discovered how much they have lost, and it also time consuming, where one would waste all of his or her time gambling and trying to earn money but at the end of the day you end up going home with nothing, I still can't find where the positive effect would come from, else people wouldn't be warning about endangering themselves of being an addict victim of gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on July 22, 2024, 09:31:28 PM
Addiction can not be positive. This is simply because the very definition of addiction defines very negative consequences. Gambling addiction in specific is tied with financial ruin which in turn also has various societal effects. For instance gambling addicted people may ask or just simply grab without authorization money from their relatives or acquaintances.

Really though if you consider any positive effect of gambling you have to consider that gambling as an activity is prone to addiction so if you consider anything positive you have to avoid addiction to have a positive effect.
Even not only about addiction in terms of its financial ruin that follows it but also the mental health effects that follows after one must have discovered how much they have lost, and it also time consuming, where one would waste all of his or her time gambling and trying to earn money but at the end of the day you end up going home with nothing, I still can't find where the positive effect would come from, else people wouldn't be warning about endangering themselves of being an addict victim of gambling.
The effects of gambling addictions on financial conditions of the addict's is what concern most of us even muchmore than the impact on our mental health, because what bring in the pressure on the health is the over thinking of the financial implications of our gambling loses that leads to depression on the long.


But once a gambler can manage their finance's pretty well, they won't have so much to worry about the possible resultant effect of gambling addictions.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: wheelz1200 on July 22, 2024, 10:56:40 PM
It's a fine line with gambling.  Yes it's a hobby but can completely destroy lives if not managed correctly.  I don't think being addicted to anything is good even if it's good for ypu.  I always go with the mantra of everything in moderation.  Same goes with gambling.  When you feel like you have to do it you should walk away and or get some help before it gets too deep.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Coyster on July 22, 2024, 11:05:46 PM
Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.
This is not an addiction, if you are gambling when you want to and for fun, you are not an addict. A gambling addict cannot stop gambling, even when they see that it is ruining their life, even when they are going completely broke, they sell their properties, steal and do all sorts of negative things to get money to gamble.

There cannot be a positive gambling addiction, once you become an addict, you can no longer control yourself and the addiction controls you, it definitely cannot be positive, can it?


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Smartvirus on July 22, 2024, 11:26:57 PM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
The word addiction already is summed up in negativity. Trying to imagine anything positive coming off it is like, taking sense out of the word which can’t be.
Addiction speaks of an uncontrollable desire towards a thing and worst even, a field like gambling which could stir your desire to making money and you would be driven by it to a point that, you just can’t hold yourself.
Perhaps you might view it in terms of, having to be attached to gambling and your making money off it, even then, I don’t see any positivity in not having to have a great degree of control over how you gamble.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Miles2006 on July 22, 2024, 11:32:17 PM
When a person is not addicted with a certain habit or lifestyle it’s difficult for anyone to imagine being in such situation, I guess op seems to see the brighter side about gambling addiction which doesn’t sound correct. No addicted gambler will enjoy the act and the surprising idea is they can’t resist neither do they have the ability to win always. The problem might be lack of money etc that’s why gambling addiction is bad, when an addict feels the need to gamble as a relieve or creating their desired happiness which I don’t believe it’s still attach with a different motive for example just imagine a student using his school fees to gamble, in such case can we still consider gambling addiction beneficial? No.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Hatchy on July 23, 2024, 01:35:49 AM
Aside gambling, addiction in general if not controlled on time can put ones life in jeopardy. Its not actually something one should be happy about. Yes we can say that some people's addiction to something can later turn our to be what they do best and will later become someone great from it but with the context of gambling it's has no positive side. Onces one gets addicted he will only end up gambling away his life. There's nothing that might be able to stop him. When a gambler gets addicted he can go to the highest post as borrowing to fund his gambling activities where he will eventually lose.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 23, 2024, 01:44:59 AM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.
Well, as long as the gambler doesn't care about losing money, and he values entertainment more than the money then I guess that's the time where we can considered getting addiction somewhat "positive".

The problem right now is that, most of the people portrays gambling addiction as somewhat negative because of the impacts it can give to a gambler, but those are the gamblers that care more about winning than the happiness that they can get. There are some gamblers out there who don't care about losing money as long as they feel entertained. There are some gamblers out there that are using gambling as their stress-reliever. There are some gamblers out there who feel happy when they gamble or at least interact with other gamblers around them.

On the flipside though, the positive thing that gambling addiction can give can't weigh out the negative things that it can give to a person hence, they see it as a negative.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: klidex on July 23, 2024, 03:17:42 AM
I don't know why I don't agree with the concept of the positive impact of gambling addiction. In my opinion, this is a dangerous disease whose cure is not easy and it is also difficult for someone to control their emotions. Yes, I know that gambling is sometimes fun and something that is fun definitely makes it a hobby and someone who feels pressure will always divert it to a hobby that they enjoy, but when it comes to gambling and becoming addicted it will only cause losses.

Which person would like to see themselves suffer big losses if they are addicted to gambling? even rich people can become poor and poor people become poorer and there are many more losses that must be borne by people who are addicted to gambling, it's not the gambling problem. In my opinion, it would be better if gambling was only used as a form of entertainment but not to the point of addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Coin_trader on July 23, 2024, 04:00:44 AM
I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

Been there done that. There’s no way an addiction will be a good thing even though you are consistently getting profit from it because you are focusing too much time on gambling and sacrifice other aspect of your life such as socializing and others. In the end, all the consistent profit is useless with just one bad lose because you wasted all your money and at the same time your precious time in the end.

This is why I always pause on playing gambling when I’m already having consistent winning streak to counter addiction that will potentially recover all my profit with one massive loss.

Addiction is never a good thing even if you are getting something good from it because there’s always an ending to your luck so it’s better to always have some time to rest rather than continuously play until your lack run out due to your addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: retreat on July 23, 2024, 04:44:22 AM
Anything related to addiction is never good, because anything related to addiction is definitely negative and it will usually have an effect on individuals or people around them, for example gambling addiction, pornography addiction, etc. People never mention positive things about addiction, for example addiction to worship, addiction to learning, etc., never, because those are positive things and are not relevant when it comes to addiction like what people imagine addiction to be.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Hirose UK on July 23, 2024, 04:58:04 AM
I think the thing called gambling addiction will always only have negative impact and will never have positive impact even though it shows that gambling addicts get pleasure and satisfaction.
Pleasure or satisfaction is not positive impact because it is just feeling get when doing an activity like, it is not about money because gambling addict will always think that money is not everything and they will be willing to spend whatever.
Moreover, we can certainly know all the impacts and consequences of gambling addiction without exception, there will be no changes whatsoever because what is called addiction always has fatal consequences and triggers destruction in the future.
But there is one more thing that may always have different point of view from each person, hobbies and addictions have several differences, hobbies will always provide benefits and can also provide an advantage in itself, addiction does not provide all of that.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: ralle14 on July 23, 2024, 05:20:38 AM
There are little upsides to going through a gambling addiction to say it can be viewed positively, and we already have a better term for it.

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.
I'm with you on this part while the first part you mentioned about regularly earning through betting is just wishful thinking. It's always good to set a goal, but in gambling, it'll do more harm than good if you prioritize earnings that highly then it can potentially transition to chasing losses.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Samlucky O on July 23, 2024, 06:02:41 AM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
Yea people derive from gambling yet they also lose. its always a two sided ways like vise versa, meaning win/lose. and lose is more often than win that's why people always say that dey don't benefit in gambling. Emagine when you gamble %100, you lose %98 and win %5, how will you measure the ratio? It's gonna be quantified as more lose and it causes addiction because such person will still have that hope that he will win and may never win as expected and still he will get addicted. That's why people always say they don't benefit anything from gambling because it's almost impossible to gain anything from gambling when you lose often than win. So will you said you benefitted in gambling when you are constantly lossing? No. So in my humble opinion I will say those that hit a jackpot are those who have benefited or those that win a huge sum of money that is above their bankroll which they have used to stake for long. Then for the people you said they gamble for fun I will take it as an individual differences because I haven't seen who waste his money just to derive fun while there are lots of fun games online that don't require using of money.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: mirakal on July 23, 2024, 07:43:19 AM
Gambling is not a bad thing or habit, but falling into addiction can be disastrous financially and psychologically. 
Gambling addiction is different from any profitable addiction. Therefore, it does not have a positive but a negative impact on our lives and behaviors. In fact, nobody aims to become addicted, but some gamblers let it happen because of misunderstandings and too much thinking. 

Why do some gamblers commit bad loans, crimes, etc.? All of these things happen because of uncontrollable gambling habits (addiction), and as we see their lives, instead of seeing them improve, they are going down more. That is one of the negative side effects that may happen, and it will worsen as it continues. 


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: bakasabo on July 23, 2024, 07:50:12 AM
Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 23, 2024, 08:04:22 AM
Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.
You do not understand this. If you are addicted, you spend more time gambling. See what I posted recently about spending more time gambling:

If gambling is taking much of your time like gambling at workplace and also gambling when you suppose to be sleeping, making your sleep shorter than it should be and making your health not to be as it should be and  making you have headache and body pains. If you are making money from gambling but this is happening to you, that is still gambling addiction. But if someone spend more time in gambling like this, it is certain that the person is losing money.

If you gamble and win but not spending more time, the person is not addicted. You can place just one or two bets weekly. That is not addiction.

People that are addicted spend more time gambling and they are prone to losses.

The other addiction is when you are losing. Even if you spend less time but losing huge amount of money. That means you do not have self-control but losing to gambling.

You may not have self-control over your time. Also you may not have self-control over your money. Both are gambling addictions.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Smack That Ace on July 23, 2024, 08:06:56 AM
Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab. Making money is secondary and it happens with rarest of people but most of them just lose their money in the long run cause that's how gambling works.

If you see someone is doing without able to control then give them a warning like take a break for a while.

I agree, once calling addiction means negative and bad, I do not agree with the concept of positive addiction, we need to distinguish between passion and addiction. Especially when it comes to gambling, gambling is now considered an unhealthy game, one of the games that can cause social evils and is the cause of many broken families...Gambling has a bad reputation, so gambling addiction is never considered positive.

Those who make money from gambling are lucky but that doesn't mean they will keep it up for long and it shouldn't be seen as a positive thing. Because if they keep maintaining the idea that they can make a living or get rich from it, sooner or later they will have to pay the price.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 23, 2024, 09:05:53 AM
What is addictive does not know its measure, which means it is harmful. Any medicine without measure will be harmful to health, just like a hobby, but that does not stop the owner from purchasing this or that rare item for his collection. Those people who believe that gambling will relieve their stress but who prioritize regular gambling may also compare themselves to a drug addict who, after receiving a dose, becomes very happy. Once again, everything in moderation is not harmful and, in some cases, useful, but without moderation, it turns into addiction, and this is already a disease. An illness cannot be beneficial.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: promise444c5 on July 23, 2024, 09:10:36 AM
The word addiction it self is use along with negative  most times, coming to "if addiction to gambling addiction can also be positive" the answer is no and will always be no.Fine, you can make a good amount of money while you get addicted but your addiction can cause you to lose more than you've gained as you won't know when to take breaks and that's what addiction in gambling does, it wrecks you if you can't control it.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: sunsilk on July 23, 2024, 09:24:44 AM
Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: shield132 on July 23, 2024, 09:32:52 AM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
I understand what you mean but that addiction is only good when you are at the top in your job. I had a neighbour who got addicted to sports betting but soon made a job out of it, he was feeding his family till his death by making sports bets, he was watching football and basketball every day, checking every match results and reading articles on many different sports news websites.
There are also people who got addicted to Poker but became so good at it that they made a professional career. Yes, in such cases addiction is good. Messi is addicted to football and he became one of the greatest players of all time, this kind of addiction helps us to become the master of our profession, so I agree with you that sometimes gambling addiction can be good but let's be frank, most of the time it's devastating.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Mahanton on July 23, 2024, 10:00:45 AM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
I understand what you mean but that addiction is only good when you are at the top in your job. I had a neighbour who got addicted to sports betting but soon made a job out of it, he was feeding his family till his death by making sports bets, he was watching football and basketball every day, checking every match results and reading articles on many different sports news websites.
There are also people who got addicted to Poker but became so good at it that they made a professional career. Yes, in such cases addiction is good. Messi is addicted to football and he became one of the greatest players of all time, this kind of addiction helps us to become the master of our profession, so I agree with you that sometimes gambling addiction can be good but let's be frank, most of the time it's devastating.
Any for of addiction specially if its already compromises something then this is the  time we can really be able to say that it is really that negative thing but on the time that you arent risking something then it would really be just that fine. We do know that any forms of addiction is something that considered bad specially if there would really be things that left behind or something that you arent that doing in balance anymore then it would really be that having that effect despite on having no financial involvement. This is why its important that you should really be wary on the actions that you are taking. Any hobby could really be getting involved with some sports
or any things that do really interest us. Addiction into gambling is never been good and i dont see anything which is really that positive into it, this is why you should really be careful.

Play according into your leisure needs or simply with entertainment on which on the moment that you do deal with it then you arent that compromising something. You are just making use of the funds on which you can afford to lose on which this is something that its recommended in the first place. Never ever consider yourself having those go past limitations because shit things happen in the very end.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 23, 2024, 10:21:01 AM
But how many people can use gambling and achieve positive goal from gambling compare to people who gets addicted to gambling? We are sure that many people gets addicted to gambling than winning much money without gets addicted to gambling. They can derive fun from gambling without getting addicted to gambling but they must have a power that can block them from the gambling addiction. They aware that playing gambling is only for fun and without having a goal to wins or use gambling as their way to make money.

Gambling addiction will gives suffer for you without you being realizes because your minds will not thinks about the lost money or how long you playing gambling or else. No matter if you win or lose, you wants to playing gambling to fills your desire and if you are not aware, you can lose much money. It's better to use gambling as one of many entertainments so you don't depends to gambling to have fun because you can do other activities to have fun.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Cantsay on July 23, 2024, 12:53:25 PM

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

At the long run the disadvantage of being addicted to gambling will always be greater than any benefits that a user might derive from it.

Just like any other gambling, the more you engage in it the more it destroys you, the more you do drug and gain pleasure from it the more it destroys your systems and the more you gamble the more and satisfy your desires the more you lose money and the more you’ll keep increasing your individual stakes until it comes to the point where they’ll no longer be able to afford to continue gambling.

Since it’s more disastrous I don’t think it’s worth considering the positive aspect of it.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 23, 2024, 03:32:27 PM
Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab.
I picked interest in what you wrote because you speak generally and not only gambling-related. When we hear the context "addiction," we often believe it's entirely bad, I did as well until I started researching about it, even psychologists and those in the related fields recognise some addiction as good, but they always have their clause, and that is "if it's positive to you" regardless of whether or not you can control it.

And of course, this addiction of a thing is not so uncontrollable in all cases, it happens in stages and differently. You can imagine someone that can't stop reading books daily or exercising, are those addictions not damning, or do you think such people are not addicted to them as well?

Addiction can not be positive. This is simply because the very definition of addiction defines very negative consequences. Gambling addiction in specific is tied with financial ruin which in turn also has various societal effects.
Bro, do me a favour, research this and come back again to affirm that "addiction can not be positive." I don't just want us to believe this based on our interpretations. As for the financial ruin in gambling, yes, that is what we are used to, but are there no people still addicted to gambling and are profiting from it, whereby the profits are the major drive for their addiction? Is profiting not good? That's what I want us to look into.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Dewi Aries on July 23, 2024, 03:56:33 PM
Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.

That's right, this means that addiction can have a positive impact depending on the context of what is being discussed, in the sense that if gambling is the object then I think of course there is nothing positive in the addiction situation because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk.

But if the object of discussion is other things that fall into the category of good and useful activities without any risk then of course that is another thing that definitely has no risk or significant impact from an addiction situation. But yes overall we all know that addiction is a bad situation, but it also depends on what activity is being talked about.

The point is that if the object of discussion is addiction to gambling activities then of course I think everyone will agree that there is nothing positive that a person can get in the long term.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Rockstarguy on July 23, 2024, 10:19:45 PM
Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.
You are very correct.  Whatever that can cause and to make someone not to be fine can never be consider to be hobby.  Hobbies derive joy that people don't regret spending time with their hobbies. I won't advice anyone to take gambling as hobby because gambling is a about lose and win, you can never predict what will be the outcome the game. Taking gambling to be an hobby can make one end up being addicted to gambling. Gambling can be fun to some people but won't be really good if people should take gambling to be hobby just because the outcome of gambling can't be predicted, not even a chance of 50/50.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: serjent05 on July 23, 2024, 11:05:32 PM
Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.

I think hobbies and addiction are two different things.  Not because a person does things regularly as a hobby means he is addicted to it. If one finds exercise to be a good habit and does it regularly does not mean he is addicted to exercise.  In a hobby, a person has full control over his activity and be able to modify it and can stop anytime he wanted.  It does not affect his life negatively while addiction on the other hand is the opposite.  The person's activity is imbalanced and can't control the urge to do things repeatedly.  That said, the hobby does not hinder any daily activity and fits perfectly according to the person's daily routine while addiction takes priority over other things making it affect the daily schedule negatively, mostly all tasks is undone since the person is fully occupied by his addiction.

That said, I never considered that there is such a good addiction, because eventually, the addiction will bring a negative impact to the person's life if not its surroundings.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 23, 2024, 11:24:07 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
At the long run the disadvantage of being addicted to gambling will always be greater than any benefits that a user might derive from it.

Just like any other gambling, the more you engage in it the more it destroys you, the more you do drug and gain pleasure from it the more it destroys your systems and the more you gamble the more and satisfy your desires the more you lose money and the more you’ll keep increasing your individual stakes until it comes to the point where they’ll no longer be able to afford to continue gambling.

Since it’s more disastrous I don’t think it’s worth considering the positive aspect of it.

I also couldn't find a very good reason as a long-term impact of gambling addiction. Do remember, too much abuse of anything always end up badly. And so with any other addiction. And just like what you mentioned, the positive benefits can be easily overpowered by its bad effects in the long run.

But for the sake of discussion here. There are some known unintended and short-lived positive influence of gambling addiction : (1) social connection - as gamblers can engage with others to fulfil the feeling of belongingness, (2) emotional release - which can be a temporary escape from their stressful life, (3) being creative - as they look for strategies how to "beat" the house  ;D or (4) boosting someone else's confidence especially if he is on the winning side. Like I said, these benefits can be temporary only.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: TelolettOm on July 23, 2024, 11:46:59 PM
If it has become a gambling addiction, I think it will be quite difficult to see the negative side. because, however, gambling addiction has become part of the disease and disorder. If he can still control and manage gambling very well, with full awareness and is able to know when to stop and when to start, then it is not a gambling addiction, it is just possible that his profession as a gambler is so profitable that he cannot abandon gambling activities.

However, if you have gambling addiction, from the name alone, "addict" is definitely related to emotional stress, financial worries, and other serious issues.

As quoted here:
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"When you think of the effects of gambling, certain things spring to mind. Like financial worries, relationship difficulties and other serious issues.

Problem gambling is when betting starts to create trouble in your life, such as debt, relationship problems, job loss, stress or depression, or it gets in the way of other responsibilities in your life.

 ‘addiction’ is a clinical term


Source: Gambling addiction (https://gamblershelp.com.au/learn-about-gambling/gambling-addiction-what-is-it/)

and if we ask, what are the positive things about gambling addiction?
for addicted gamblers and families or other people around: No.

For the odds, yes the more addicted gamblers there are, the more income there is for the odds, the casinos.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: lembang on July 24, 2024, 01:18:20 AM
As long as you can keep it under control, I think it can be okay; addiction to gambling isn’t always as bad as people say. However, it’s important to remember that the line between fun and dependency is thin. When that line is crossed, what started as just entertainment can turn into a serious problem. Managing your feelings and motivations behind gambling is crucial. If you can focus your energy and only play at certain times, it might be something enjoyable. But when your emotions start to take over and your decisions are influenced by the urge to keep playing, that’s a sign you need to take a step back and reflect on what's really going on. In the gambling world, winners are often those who can hold back, while losers usually get swept up in their emotions and lose control. So, learning to regulate yourself and know when to say enough is key to preventing addiction from being harmful. That way, you can enjoy the game without falling into traps that could ruin your life.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: joniboini on July 24, 2024, 06:03:28 AM
As long as you can keep it under control, I think it can be okay; addiction to gambling isn’t always as bad as people say. However, it’s important to remember that the line between fun and dependency is thin.
By definition, isn't addiction assume somebody has a lack of control over their behaviour? I think having an addiction and perfect control over your behaviour is contradictory. I've never heard someone says those things are possible. Maybe you mean something along the line of "interest", "hobby", etc? I dunno, it's like saying you're addicted to drugs but you can control when you take it without any problem at all.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: bakasabo on July 24, 2024, 07:49:51 AM
Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.
You do not understand this. If you are addicted, you spend more time gambling. See what I posted recently about spending more time gambling:

If gambling is taking much of your time like gambling at workplace and also gambling when you suppose to be sleeping, making your sleep shorter than it should be and making your health not to be as it should be and  making you have headache and body pains. If you are making money from gambling but this is happening to you, that is still gambling addiction. But if someone spend more time in gambling like this, it is certain that the person is losing money.

If you gamble and win but not spending more time, the person is not addicted. You can place just one or two bets weekly. That is not addiction.

People that are addicted spend more time gambling and they are prone to losses.

The other addiction is when you are losing. Even if you spend less time but losing huge amount of money. That means you do not have self-control but losing to gambling.

You may not have self-control over your time. Also you may not have self-control over your money. Both are gambling addictions.

Then I have a different vision of what addiction is. For me addictions is a situation when you cant stop doing and thinking about something. Spending a lot of time on something I dont consider as addiction (what about hobby then?). If I daily watch Instagram for example, even do it several times a day, and I have different length sessions. You would call it as addiction then?

Now back to positive aspect of gambling addiction. Just random thoughts. It can be a time killer for lonely and retired people if they dont gamble with huge amounts. They can even play in demo mode. As gambling will be another way of entertainment, despite doing crosswords all the free time.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: stompix on July 24, 2024, 08:04:52 AM
Is that not a positive addiction?

There is no such thing as positive addiction, people have tried investing in new terms but they all fell short.
An "addiction" is a disorder, when you have fun gambling and you play when you want to have fun, that's not an addiction, addiction is when you play just for the sake of playing, with an irrational behavior when not.

I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

Can they quit at any time when they stop making money and having fun?
Then they are not addicted!

Then I have a different vision of what addiction is. For me addictions is a situation when you can stop doing and thinking about something.

No, that's exactly the opposite of being addicted!


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 24, 2024, 08:05:34 AM
Then I have a different vision of what addiction is. For me addictions is a situation when you can stop doing and thinking about something. Spending a lot of time on something I dont consider as addiction (what about hobby then?). If I daily watch Instagram for example, even do it several times a day, and I have different length sessions. You would call it as addiction then?
Addiction is when that thing is not benefiting your health because you are doing it too much. Like gambling excessively in a way you are losing money and not having good health because if it, or trading which can cause the same thing, or smoking too much, or using too much drug frequently in excessive dose, and without any health reason etc.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: crwth on July 24, 2024, 08:08:55 AM
in what way could it be positive? I think you have a wrong understanding and view of the term “addiction” 

I believe you are just trying to find a positive thing to look at in disease that is caused by continuous gambling and finding ways to have money then gambling again. I think you shouldn’t tolerate gambling addiction As positive or anything Close to it being ok.

I hope you are not comparing it to obsession in terms of build something because I know there are some obsessions like the best in a certain industry and it benefits the person positively.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: bakasabo on July 24, 2024, 08:19:03 AM
Then I have a different vision of what addiction is. For me addictions is a situation when you can stop doing and thinking about something. Spending a lot of time on something I dont consider as addiction (what about hobby then?). If I daily watch Instagram for example, even do it several times a day, and I have different length sessions. You would call it as addiction then?
Addiction is when that thing is not benefiting your health because you are doing it too much. Like gambling excessively in a way you are losing money and not having good health because if it, or trading which can cause the same thing, or smoking too much, or using too much drug frequently in excessive dose, and without any health reason etc.

I can gamble with 0.00000001 BTC bet and stretch $1 deposit for months. Loosing several dollars per month does not look like "loosing money" in general for me. The health issues I would get would be bad eyesight, maybe depression from being antisocial.

I think your "total time logged" is huge, which might make me say that you are forum addicted. However, I think you have got something positive from it, and that addiction does not cause you much health problem.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Woodie on July 24, 2024, 08:20:06 AM
Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab.
Wouldn't have said it better!


How would any one glorify gambling addiction to be positive when this in its literal sense means someone has a problem that needs to be addressed for a change of mindset...
For anybody that sees gambling addiction to be positive, they need to know that this means a person has no self-control on their gambling habits such that their social relations with other people is negatively affected, finances too could be affected to the point of getting into unbearable debt etcetera!!

Let's call a spade a spade! Gambling addiction is more like an illness and we shouldn't find light in it period!


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 24, 2024, 08:24:44 AM
addiction

when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something. It is a dependence on a substance or activity even if you know that it causes you harm. It can impact your daily life.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/what-is-addiction

No addiction can be positive, look at the definition of the very word I found online above. Any addiction is unhealthy and can negatively impact your life so no, I don’t think gambling addiction can ever be positive. Always practise responsible gambling. Don’t gamble with a higher stake than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: traderethereum on July 24, 2024, 12:25:08 PM
It is not easy to earn in sports betting regularly because this is gambling which we don't know what is the result. We can win but not for many times and even if we can wins, that means we have our luck comes to us but we will not always gets our luck comes when we gambling.
If someone wants to make gambling as a positive, he must control himself with many things so gambling will not have a chance to tempts him to use more money. Maybe not many people can do that because people can gets deeper in gambling easily and will forgets to controls themselves.
You can say that gambling can be a positive depends on how people do that. But we knows that will not easy as people can change anytime and will use gambling too often which can makes them lose too much money.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: HelliumZ on July 24, 2024, 12:30:37 PM
You can never say that gambling addiction is all bad because there are some addictions that are terribly harmful to people but gambling is harmful to people but has some beneficial aspects. A gambling addict finds himself in gambling because he gets involved in gambling. However, gambling addicts have a negative impact on society, but gambling is a necessity for a person to live comfortably.  A lonely man finds himself a companion through gambling. Again, an intoxicated person, especially a drug addict, can control himself through gambling.  But every addiction has some good side and bad side, but the bad side of gambling is seen bigger than the good side in the society.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Shinpako09 on July 24, 2024, 01:01:42 PM
I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Wapfika on July 24, 2024, 01:07:53 PM
I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

This is the most possible outcome since gambling has an house edge that will give the casino an advantage for long term players specifically for gamblers with addiction. It’s impossible to achieved high winning percentage in gambling long term because there’s a house edge in every bet that taking effect slowly and accumulate in the long run.

I’m also doubtful that there’s a positive addiction in gambling considering that the EV on all games is always negative, combine it with greediness and the result is a disaster.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Ricardo11 on July 24, 2024, 01:15:21 PM
Gambling has both good and bad sides. But being addicted to gambling is not good at all. This leads a gambler to do more harm than good, because that is the nature of gambling. Those who are successful gamblers these days, you will see that they are not much addicted to gambling, they gamble occasionally. Gambling will not bring you profit every time, loss in gambling is guaranteed. People who become addicted to gambling gamble every time with the hope of winning, but they mostly end up losing, thus falling into a loss they once fall in front of a situation from which they can't get out easily. So I think gambling addiction has the highest potential for negativity, so it's better not to get too addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Luzin on July 24, 2024, 01:28:06 PM
I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: klidex on July 24, 2024, 01:51:23 PM
I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money ;D


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Antotena on July 24, 2024, 02:38:05 PM
Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.

I'm not sure if he knows much about addiction though. Anyone can be addicted to anything, it's like when you can't do without something and you always want to have it badly but we can't deny that there are not people that are making millions from gambling. They lose money in gambling but their total networth of gambling is big enough to understand that there is life in gambling and this is what I can consider to be positive addiction of gambling and not what he is saying.


The only thing I'm concern about is that too much of everything is bad even though you are making money from such place, you may even have a mental break down from trying strategies on how to win money from them and when you don't want to even lose what you have made from gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Helena Yu on July 24, 2024, 02:53:49 PM
Anything in excess is harmful.

Water is good for body, but too much consuming water will lead you gets Water intoxication (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication).

Consuming too much eating vegetable is also not good. (https://www.livestrong.com/article/512238-what-if-a-person-eats-too-many-vegetables/)

Gambling too much is also not good, if it didn't takes a lot of money, then it takes a lot of time. So it's bad for your life, you better spend the time to learn something new or focus on your career.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: YOSHIE on July 24, 2024, 03:10:27 PM
My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
Currently there is no person or psychologist who explains and says that gambling addiction has a positive impact on its users, generally addiction is often and always identified with negative things, why is that.
Because, addiction is always associated with bad thoughts, if people are dependent on a substance or desire, if they don't achieve it, it can have a bad impact on themselves, that's the main point.

I once read the words spoken by a famous psychologist.
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Addiction is a condition when a person does not have the control to stop doing, taking, or using something even when it is harmful to themselves.
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There we can draw the conclusion that gambling addiction is very difficult, it can be directed to the positive.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Slow death on July 24, 2024, 03:18:21 PM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

This scenario that you described seems to be good, but it is not, imagine that a person makes sports bets and that person has always managed to obtain constant profits, but that person cannot stay without making sports bets, so that person starts to have a serious problem, which consists of the following:

1 - at all hours of the day this person thinks about sports betting

2 - this person stops socializing with other people to spend more time placing sports bets and as a result is left without a job, without a wife, without friends

3 - when this person starts having losses, he will have emotional imbalance and will be unlikely to win again and as a consequence he will run into debts, sell assets and may get into drugs and crime, and will probably end up in prison or dead if his family does not admit him to the hospital

That's why there's nothing good about addiction.

There are people who can play every day but are not addicted. In these cases there is nothing wrong as long as they also play with money they can afford to lose and live and talk to people in the real world.


I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

The function of games and sports betting is to entertain people, that is, to make people have fun. Unfortunately, some people don't understand this and become addicted, but most people play a lot and have fun and are not addicted. So we can say that gambling is a good thing

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

There is no good addiction. every vice is something harmful


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: moneystery on July 24, 2024, 03:20:28 PM
i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Gozie51 on July 24, 2024, 03:43:13 PM

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.


Usually the mindset of gambling is winning or losing so it kind of addictive in its own form because you are either losing money or gaining money and the emotions are quite different from having a hobby. If you are involving in a game that is your hobby with money then that means you are also going to have the kind of addiction like gambling. Therefore, gambling addiction IMO won't be positive because apart from money that could be involved in it, you are going to waste your time doing that thing so much that you forget to give some time to other things like family life. Being addictive is not only when you are losing and chasing loses, you can be winning yet suffering from time shortage for your other activities. I have seen many people playing games like football or playstation for the fun of it and they continue doing that from morning to evening without taking breakfast and that moreless could be a triggering factor to certain health condition like ulcer.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on July 24, 2024, 03:57:32 PM
I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
Yes, it's true that when it comes to the effect of gambling on gamblers, it has both positive and negative effects, but just that people always overlook the positive, and focus more on the negative aspect of gambling, because though the assurance of winning games are always not sure, but it doesn't mean there aren't people who live by the profits they earned from gambling, and likewise, so has some people who through a chance of luck, Likely to have won a jackpot which change their life. So in that scenario whereby a gambler through gambling have been able to get a life changing capital to start either a business or build a house, will you call that a negative effect of gambling? But can't be, inasmuch as this doesn't comes regularly and he gamblers responsibly.

Hence, gambling addiction is a mindset, because if you are able to have control over your mindset, you will always have control over your addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on July 24, 2024, 04:07:30 PM

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money ;D

Yes and logically there will never be anyone including friends here who always advise anyone to treat gambling well in the sense of being full of limits and avoiding various impulsive actions if only there is something positive in the addiction situation, meaning that is because Indeed, addiction is a very negative situation and can destroy all aspects of a person's life, which makes us always exchange suggestions and opinions to treat gambling well and far from being excessive.

As you said, addiction is a situation where a gambler will not be able to control himself, and this inability to control is what makes people trapped in many bad effects, meaning it doesn't make sense to say that there is something positive that we can get when a gambler losing control because it is related to emotions. On the other hand, in my opinion, regardless of whether you are rich or poor, addiction is still a bad situation in the sense that there is nothing positive or enjoyable, because logically, no matter how rich you are, if you are addicted to gambling, it is very possible for you to end up bankrupt because As you said above, addiction is a situation where a person cannot control himself, which means that in my opinion the pleasure felt by rich people does not mean that they are addicted, my friend.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Zoomic on July 24, 2024, 05:01:34 PM
*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. :)*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
No one ever gets addicted to things they hate doing, the fact that they enjoy these activities and derive some level of happiness from them is the more reason they need to balance this activity they enjoy with other activities that affects them both directly and indirectly. We should not only be interested in the present benefits we get from a particular hobby, we should also be concerned in what it would do to us in the longrun if we do them uncontrollably.

Gambling is not free, the gambler spends money to gamble. We can only imagine how much a person who gambles uncontrollably everyday will lose considering the house edge over the addicted gambler. This is not a healthy financial lifestyle for anyone and there is no positivity in it. Infact, there is nothing positive about addiction and it is best we avoid glorifying addiction to avoid misleading other people.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: slapper on July 24, 2024, 05:25:22 PM
Addiction doesn't respect your level of enjoyment or financial situation. It's about craving something so bad you'll do anything to get it, even if it messes up your life. I understand it though. One can find social aspects. You run over people, chuckle a little, blow off steam. The shared experience worth more than just the money. We cannot overlook it

when does fun turn into a problem? When it starts interfering with your life, your relationships, your employment. In such case, feeding the beast takes precedence over victory. We should so establish the line there

We need to talk about responsible gambling, about having control, setting limits. You have to know when to leave,no matter how good it feels in the moment. Here is where education (learning about yourself, your triggers, your limitations) fits. We need to change the culture around gambling, make it about having a good time without going off the rails. It's about discovering that ideal balance whereby the excitement does not become a nightmare


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Dewi Aries on July 24, 2024, 06:47:39 PM
i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.

Of course there is nothing positive that can be taken from the addiction situation, and as we have seen about the situation experienced by gamblers who are now addicted, overall they always suffer from various bad disasters in their lives and I have never seen or heard about there being something positive in it.

As you said and it is correct that addiction is a situation where a person cannot control or control themselves in carrying out an activity which usually tends to make them act excessively. I would also say that at first glance addiction and hobby are almost the same, but in fact the similarity only comes from excessive interest in the activity, while a hobby is something that is enjoyed consciously in the sense that a person can still control himself, such as a hobby of collecting luxury goods such as watches, is that called addiction? I think not because it actually benefits investors. The point is that there is nothing positive about an addiction situation, especially in the context of gambling, and hobbies and addictions are different.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Richbased on July 24, 2024, 07:33:19 PM
i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.


Literally, addiction is used to express a bad condition that one finds himself which is impossible to be controlled so even when a gambler becomes addicted and still makes profits from gambling is doesn't counter the fact that the gambler is into addiction. A gambler can still control their gambling habits and not become addicted. No matter how we try to rephrase gambling addiction to be positive, it can't be positive and it doesn't mean that people should become too occupied with gambling activities all the time because it can only lead to spending more time in gambling than other life activities which will still lead to addiction in the end.

Gambling Addiction is something that someone develops either due to the love they have for gambling like doing it frequently or due to trying to win at all cost and at the end get into losses and even trying further to chase losses even leads more to addiction since you will be so concerned on how to recover losses thereby it will make you spend money and time in it which are the factors that leads to addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: KTChampions on July 24, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.

If we consider gambling in your example as just harmless entertainment (which is quite cheap relative to other expenses), then we can even say that in this case gambling as a whole is completely positive. But the topic is set in such a way that we are talking about gambling addiction and this completely changes everything. Here we must take into account not only what “is now” but also what it can lead to, and I think everyone knows that any addiction is highly likely to lead to negative consequences.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Sim_card on July 24, 2024, 08:24:43 PM
I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money ;D
No matter how rich you are if your gamble without caution, you will get addicted and if you get addicted there is high possibility of you going bankrupt with gambling only if you gamble once in a while but if it is everyday, you will be addicted and lose more money every day and gradually your source of income might dry up. This is why one must gamble responsible to avoid addiction and big losses. Addiction only have consequences and I don't think that there is any benefit to gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: xLays on July 24, 2024, 08:33:02 PM
It is easy to determine if your gambling addiction is good or bad for you. It's easy to see if gambling is bad for you if it causes financial problems, takes up too much time, makes you feel bad, leads to chasing losses, neglecting responsibilities or harms your relationships (all of these are connected). And gambling na addiction might be good for you if it stays within your budget, is done in moderation, makes you feel entertained and doesn't affect with your responsibilities or relationships. I can say this because I have experienced all of this (I myself thinks I'm gambling addict). In short sometimes it can be good, but most of the time it is bad.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Obari on July 24, 2024, 08:41:44 PM
firstly you should try checking the dictionary definition of addiction then you'll understand  more better.
the primary purpose of gambler to stake which implies risk and anyone who is taking g a financial risk is expecting a positive result from it and in terms of gambling, anyone who have staked a game thereby risking their money is already expecting a positive result.

over the period, ive also understood that,  success is associated with positivity while failure as negative and sa.e tnjng applies inthe gambling industry as the moment a gambler becomes successful,  his tagged professional gambler but when the losses are frequent then you're tagged an addict and the line between is carefulness.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Lanatsa on July 24, 2024, 08:59:20 PM
*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. :)*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
Any forms of addiction cant really be considered to be good on which you would really be needing up for yourself to have such control and moderation on whatever things that you are doing on which it isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things, because on the time or moment that you do find yourself being addicted then you would really be tilting the balance on which you might be missing out other priorities or focus into other things on the time that you will really be that shifting out your priority into something. Its not bad to gamble as long you dont really forget your priorities on which this is something that is normally that been forgotten on the time that people do gamble. One of the most common mistake that is really that been taken or done is that they do really forgot on having that financial spending control.

Being responsible would really be always the key so that you wont really be messing up your life with gambling and on the time or moment that you do find yourself having such addiction
then you wouldnt really be able to think up well on what are the things that you should gonna do nor really that tends to avoid. It all talks about on being
responsible and sensible in the end of the day.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 24, 2024, 09:09:41 PM
In my own opinion and judging on the fact that this argument is concerned with addiction in gambling, I would say that being too addicted to something (perhaps gambling) could cause more problems for the individual than the advantage it will give the person. 

Addiction to gambling can stand as a distraction to a gambler in his job, business, or career, which can also help some gamblers to do away with stress, but I think the disadvantage is high compared to the positive side of it. 


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: sunsilk on July 24, 2024, 09:19:21 PM
Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.

That's right, this means that addiction can have a positive impact depending on the context of what is being discussed, in the sense that if gambling is the object then I think of course there is nothing positive in the addiction situation because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk.

But if the object of discussion is other things that fall into the category of good and useful activities without any risk then of course that is another thing that definitely has no risk or significant impact from an addiction situation. But yes overall we all know that addiction is a bad situation, but it also depends on what activity is being talked about.

The point is that if the object of discussion is addiction to gambling activities then of course I think everyone will agree that there is nothing positive that a person can get in the long term.
The overall effect and impression of gambling aren't good.

And we will not see something as this having no risk at all, it always comes with a risk and gamblers know that there's a need to wager with real money for them to gamble.

It's the same with any other vice in that it comes in handy and satisfying when someone does it but they don't see the negative impact of it for themselves at the beginning.

But as soon as someone sees the whole point of it, it can never be something positive.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 24, 2024, 09:29:23 PM
It's veer obvious that addiction in gambling is something that we all have known that it's negative from my way of understanding things in gambling, but their is a way we can get rid of addiction in gambling, and secondly its not necessarily mean that anyone who is a frequent gambler is addicted to it, it can be said that we are addicted in gambling when you gamble out of control and to the extent that you don't know when you are losing and when you're gaining in gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Wakate on July 24, 2024, 09:32:58 PM
firstly you should try checking the dictionary definition of addiction then you'll understand  more better.
the primary purpose of gambler to stake which implies risk and anyone who is taking g a financial risk is expecting a positive result from it and in terms of gambling, anyone who have staked a game thereby risking their money is already expecting a positive result.

over the period, ive also understood that,  success is associated with positivity while failure as negative and sa.e tnjng applies inthe gambling industry as the moment a gambler becomes successful,  his tagged professional gambler but when the losses are frequent then you're tagged an addict and the line between is carefulness.
It is very obvious that every gamblers want to be seeing positive feedback or outcome from every of our bets that is why addiction does not take much time to hit us if we are never careful about it. We want to make money risk our fund to earn more money from gambling but the outcome is not always certain for us until we get the see the outcome ourselves. When we are positive, we could even bet more so that we can earn more from our bets but when the contrary happens, it becomes a bad game which we can likewise try next time to see if we can win. The scenario applies to every gamblers or addicted gamblers which is why we need to know how to work on ourselves to get better rewards.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Egii Nna on July 24, 2024, 09:39:21 PM
I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

I know we are not here to argue but to share opinions. Gambling addiction is a very crucial act that needs to be highly concentrated on. Actually anything that has a negative side will also have a positive side, so there is one thing to consider when it comes to gambling because in gambling addiction the positive part is very rear and it is applied to just a small number of people, which is why everyone just sees it that gambling just depends on the negative side because the negative side is too much than the positive side, so even with thousands of arguments, all I know and many will also support me because that is the true fact that the negative aspect of gambling is more affecting than the positive, and many will also agree because gambling itself is very dangerous in some cases.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Dailyscript on July 24, 2024, 09:41:19 PM
Gambling addiction can't be positive because it controls the negative things people do when gambling. Not knowing when to stop gambling, stealing, taking loans without paying them back, and neglecting their family instead of giving them money to take good care of themselves to mention a few. All are the consequences of gambling addiction and none have I mentioned so far have any positive influence on the gambler. if you think there is any positive side of addiction to a gambler then you should let us know.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Stable090 on July 24, 2024, 09:49:32 PM
I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness.
If you are gambling for fun and you gamble with a reasonable amount of money, then I won’t really say you are addicted to gambling. As long as you can control your gambling activity, then I won’t call that an addiction. If anyone is gambling and their main purpose is for the sake of money, as long as the person can control himself, then it’s normal, I don’t see any addiction there. But if you can start gambling frequently, you do crazy things for the sake of gambling, you are always finding it difficult to stop gambling, and you gamble with so much money, then that’s when I will say a person is addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 24, 2024, 09:55:27 PM
If we consider gambling in your example as just harmless entertainment (which is quite cheap relative to other expenses), then we can even say that in this case gambling as a whole is completely positive. But the topic is set in such a way that we are talking about gambling addiction and this completely changes everything. Here we must take into account not only what “is now” but also what it can lead to, and I think everyone knows that any addiction is highly likely to lead to negative consequences.
That's right, what the OP is describing is a peaceful environment that can hardly be called an addiction. Recently, another thread was asking if gambling can be considered positive if you're winning, but similarly in this case, it's not about what's happening nowadays, but what might occur in the future. Someone who's sharing negative characteristics in terms of gambling habits should exercise caution, addiction is never positive and what's described by the OP is not its definition.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: adpinbr on July 24, 2024, 10:18:26 PM
Yes gambling addiction can actually be positive in a way, if you are a much gambling positive person and you believe you will merit it even when you are seeing  a lot of losses and you keep believing that one day you will definitely win a lot and Which id the truth, one thing I understand about gambling is that you have to be consistent and make sure you gamble with much understanding and know what you needed to do, gambling is just a game of luck and reality of choice, is not everyone has the same luck like others in gambling.
Another thing gambling can much interesting if you are winning.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: serjent05 on July 24, 2024, 10:40:56 PM
As long as you can keep it under control, I think it can be okay; addiction to gambling isn’t always as bad as people say. However, it’s important to remember that the line between fun and dependency is thin. When that line is crossed, what started as just entertainment can turn into a serious problem.

If you can control yourself then it can't be called an addiction.  Remember addiction is an uncontrolled urge to do things repeatedly.  So when we discuss a person being addicted, control is automatically the issue.

Managing your feelings and motivations behind gambling is crucial. If you can focus your energy and only play at certain times, it might be something enjoyable. But when your emotions start to take over and your decisions are influenced by the urge to keep playing, that’s a sign you need to take a step back and reflect on what's really going on.

And if the person can manage to control his feelings and motivation, we cannot label them as an addicted gambler since the word "control"  is actively being practiced.  And when stepping back when the sign of addiction is seen, simply means the person in control is avoiding to get addicted to what he is doing.

In the gambling world, winners are often those who can hold back, while losers usually get swept up in their emotions and lose control. So, learning to regulate yourself and know when to say enough is key to preventing addiction from being harmful. That way, you can enjoy the game without falling into traps that could ruin your life.

Addiction has nothing to do with winning or losing, it has something to do with control, so one must not be complacent that he won't get addicted to gambling if he often wins.  There is always a possibility that winning can trigger gambling addiction especially if the person is fixated on winning his session.

Yes gambling addiction can actually be positive in a way, if you are a much gambling positive person and you believe you will merit it even when you are seeing  a lot of losses and you keep believing that one day you will definitely win a lot and Which id the truth, one thing I understand about gambling is that you have to be consistent and make sure you gamble with much understanding and know what you needed to do, gambling is just a game of luck and reality of choice, is not everyone has the same luck like others in gambling.
Another thing gambling can much interesting if you are winning.

How can addiction be a positive thing, even eating food when done excessively can harm a person's health.  I do not see any positive things in addiction especially the stance you stated of having a positive thought and continuously gambling and losing.  This will have a huge effect on the person's financial state and will surely affect his family's need if he continue to gamble blindly hoping for that huge win.

Stating a situation where a gambler has full knowledge of what he is doing and has control over his gambling activities albeit doing it every day does not correlate to gambling addiction at all.  So I think   your example does not support the claim that gambling addiction can be positive in any way.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Odohu on July 24, 2024, 11:11:56 PM
As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
Irrespective of your motive for gambling, the moment it turns addiction, then it becomes a sickness that need solution and there can be nothing positive about it. It might interest you to know that even if an addicted gambler wins money, it is a matter of time before he give back the money to the in days of heavy losses because he lack control of his gambling. Therefore, the simple way of putting addiction is someone who can no longer control how he gamble; at this point there is no fun in it anymore. In a nutshell, gambling addiction has no positive side.



Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Onyeeze on July 24, 2024, 11:21:48 PM
Yes gambling addiction can actually be positive in a way, if you are a much gambling positive person and you believe you will merit it even when you are seeing  a lot of losses and you keep believing that one day you will definitely win a lot and Which id the truth, one thing I understand about gambling is that you have to be consistent and make sure you gamble with much understanding and know what you needed to do, gambling is just a game of luck and reality of choice, is not everyone has the same luck like others in gambling.
Another thing gambling can much interesting if you are winning.
what I have to say in this scenario is that in gambling two things are involved and the you need to understand that the major one is to lose in gambling and the one that is not well known is to win in gambling, so looking at it very well you will know that t h e positive in gambling is when you a beneficiary of subsequent gambler and you are benefiting much in gambling, so I believed that we have to understand that gambling have to do with so many things, you may think that addicted person in gambling may not achieve anything positive in gambling, but you don't know that your consistent gambling can give you a Goodluck


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: o48o on July 24, 2024, 11:38:34 PM
*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. :)*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
I think that the concept is misunderstood. Addiction means that you are dependant on something, that you need something that's not essential to your survival, but you need that just to be functional and successful on other areas in life, and when you feel physical or mental pain and urge if you don't don't fill that need.

And there are different levels of it, meaning that different people feel it with different intesity. Many people are "addicted" to things that are even good for them, and some people can take breaks from things they are addicted to when they are bad for them. It's about how addictive personality you have and if and when it becomes a problem. That's why we are even talking about it, because we need to understand the mechanism better in order to help people that don't have the positive effects of it. Otherwise it would just be considered as "fun" instead of "addiction".


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Mr.right85 on July 24, 2024, 11:46:32 PM
Yes gambling addiction can actually be positive in a way, if you are a much gambling positive person and you believe you will merit it even when you are seeing  a lot of losses and you keep believing that one day you will definitely win a lot and Which id the truth, one thing I understand about gambling is that you have to be consistent and make sure you gamble with much understanding and know what you needed to do, gambling is just a game of luck and reality of choice, is not everyone has the same luck like others in gambling.
Another thing gambling can much interesting if you are winning.
I don’t really get where the addiction does come into play here. Addiction is more about having an uncontrollable desire to gamble, it doesn’t matter if you’ve got spare funds for the activity, you just want to gamble and some even go the mile of taking loans to archive this purpose. Now, that speaks volumes on negativity, I can’t say there isn’t any positive impact on having to believe there. It isn’t about believing, loosing and believing you would win, yes you can win. You can get better at predicting the games when it comes to sportsbook as, there are well enough statistics to show a pattern but, talk about addiction, it’s a different thing.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Hispo on July 24, 2024, 11:47:27 PM
Yes gambling addiction can actually be positive in a way, if you are a much gambling positive person and you believe you will merit it even when you are seeing  a lot of losses and you keep believing that one day you will definitely win a lot and Which id the truth, one thing I understand about gambling is that you have to be consistent and make sure you gamble with much understanding and know what you needed to do, gambling is just a game of luck and reality of choice, is not everyone has the same luck like others in gambling.
Another thing gambling can much interesting if you are winning.

Sorry but having a Lossing streak and continuing to believe some big win will soon come to save it all does not sound like anything posible at all. It rather sounds like voluntarily gaslighting one self into believe something which may never come while at the same time burning money or Lossing it to the casino in the pursue of those big wins. That is the blue print for chasing losses and develop addiction, the kind of a friction which does not allow the addicted person to take care of themselves and their primary needs.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: famososMuertos on July 25, 2024, 12:04:49 AM
...//:::
+1

The addict never knows this phase, and that is the point, for an addict, winning or losing doesn't matter, there is a myth in believing that addicts are always losers...

The title of this thread is a dichotomy, it can only occur to someone prone to bad habits, although in the moral of the matter depending on how it is used that conjecture can work... surely for someone who is obsessive and manages to master the game at will. a level that does so well that it can sustain long-term gains.

I would say that it is something that can happen with Poker... be careful, no addiction to any game from the point of medicine is good...


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: alegotardo on July 25, 2024, 12:20:17 AM
*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. :)*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

The first thing you need to answer is:
Are games for you a habit or an addiction?

Many people mistake the frequent habit of gambling as an addiction, but they are not always sure about this.

The limit between a habit and addiction is the consequences they cause in the person's life. Addiction separates the individual from his essence and makes him focus more on obtaining pleasure through dependence than on the life he previously led, even if this means moving away from friends and family, lying, harming himself at work and completely changing his life. course of your actions, goals and dreams.

Any addiction is a problem, and must be eliminated or controlled before it worsens and becomes a bigger problem.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Litzki1990 on July 25, 2024, 01:22:29 AM
Being addicted to anything can never be good for anyone. An addicted person can never decide which decision is right for him and which decision is wrong for him. When a person becomes addicted to gambling, he naturally cannot make decisions on his own, rather he will have a problem in his mind about how he will gamble and how he will manage his gambling money. He sees the results of gambling going against him and he is constantly losing money, yet he will only want to gamble. We have to put in enough effort and apply the right strategies to achieve something that will be good for us but it is almost impossible to get good at something by being addicted to it. For new gamblers I would say gamble but have control over gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: Rabata on July 25, 2024, 02:23:42 AM
I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.
Any kind of addiction can be two types one is positive and another is negative. Gambling addiction is always considered negative but
It does not only focus on the negative aspects. In some cases we can think of gambling positively especially those who gamble and have high winnings. And this addiction will never harm you. But if those who lose gambling or who have a high number of losses are addicted gamblers, then the addiction will cause a great disaster in the gambler's life.

Not everyone gambles to make money. For them, gambling is a pleasure. There are many busy people who indulge in gambling to relieve their human stress in addition to their work. We often talk about the negative aspects of gambling but there are many positive aspects that don't come to the front. Those who use gambling not only to make money can find positive aspects of gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: junder on July 25, 2024, 03:41:18 AM
I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

I know we are not here to argue but to share opinions. Gambling addiction is a very crucial act that needs to be highly concentrated on. Actually anything that has a negative side will also have a positive side, so there is one thing to consider when it comes to gambling because in gambling addiction the positive part is very rear and it is applied to just a small number of people, which is why everyone just sees it that gambling just depends on the negative side because the negative side is too much than the positive side, so even with thousands of arguments, all I know and many will also support me because that is the true fact that the negative aspect of gambling is more affecting than the positive, and many will also agree because gambling itself is very dangerous in some cases.
I myself gamble appropriately and the positive impact that I feel from the gambling that I do is that there is a side of pleasure in the flow of the gambling that is carried out, the excitement of the sensation that occurs can be felt but it also depends on our own perception of gambling. It is clear that gambling is entertainment and this is right because by gambling with the perception that it is just entertainment, you will get a sensation, but for those who gamble with a different perception, such as aiming for complete victory, of course this is wrong because this will only trigger their emotions to peak.

and what you say is true, the positive impact of gambling is only achieved by a small number of people, because many people tend to see the negative side. but even if it is the fault of each individual, there will be no negative impact if they gamble with the correct limits and perceptions appropriately.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: danherbias07 on July 25, 2024, 05:08:48 AM
It's veer obvious that addiction in gambling is something that we all have known that it's negative from my way of understanding things in gambling, but their is a way we can get rid of addiction in gambling, and secondly its not necessarily mean that anyone who is a frequent gambler is addicted to it, it can be said that we are addicted in gambling when you gamble out of control and to the extent that you don't know when you are losing and when you're gaining in gambling.
Hmmm, that is possible. When a gambler just keeps on depositing and is not counting his losses anymore, I think that's the real gambling addict.
You are right, a gambler who keeps tabs on all his games although he is a frequent gambler doesn't mean he is a gambling addict just yet. His mind is still not clouded by revenge to just keep on depositing without even thinking ahead.
I think it can easily be pointed out that when a gambler takes some pauses in his game, he will not be the type to do it all in just one sitting and he could still do his work and house chores even though he is a regular gambler. I think that's the positive side of it, we are in control, we are responsible, and that's because we learned it from gambling.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: DaNNy001 on July 25, 2024, 05:31:05 AM
*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. :)*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.



Gambling addiction affects every aspects of your life, it affects your job , mental health, relationship with people and so on..you can't be a good father to your children or friend to someone because of this addiction, there's no way gambling addiction can be positive because it only yields negative results at the long run, some people enjoy gambling cause they are on a. Winning streak forgetting that everything they have can be taken away in just a split second, gambling addiction can't be positive


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: davis196 on July 25, 2024, 06:59:28 AM
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I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

The term "positive addiction" sounds like nonsense to me. An addiction can never be positive, because it ruins your financial situation, your social life and even your body and mind. Saying that gambling addiction could be a "positive addiction" is the same as saying that doing cocaine and heroine is good for your health.
What you are describing is moderate gambling, not addiction. Every bad habit(gambling, porn, smoking, drinking alcohol, gaming) is fun, if you do it in a moderate way. The fun goes away the moment you realize, that you are in debt and you can't get out of it.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: EluguHcman on July 25, 2024, 10:04:04 AM
Talking about gambling addiction is an extensiveness by which the gambler has gone chronic in loosing oneself personality and loosing of financial values.
So there is no positive consideration on gambling addicts.

A gambling addict is one who has lost control of himself chasing a particular goal without being able to realize the damages accorded. So if we can talk about regular gambler that is totally different to say if could yield to some positive ness in as much the gambler is in control of himself.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 25, 2024, 10:28:50 AM
Being addicted to anything can never be good for anyone. An addicted person can never decide which decision is right for him and which decision is wrong for him. When a person becomes addicted to gambling, he naturally cannot make decisions on his own, rather he will have a problem in his mind about how he will gamble and how he will manage his gambling money. He sees the results of gambling going against him and he is constantly losing money, yet he will only want to gamble. We have to put in enough effort and apply the right strategies to achieve something that will be good for us but it is almost impossible to get good at something by being addicted to it. For new gamblers I would say gamble but have control over gambling.
Gambling addiction just makes someone can't realizes about what happens to him. He will not accept he is addicted to gambling because he thinks that he still the same as before he playing gambling but the truth is he change everything. He lose his money but not realizes about that and just keeps playing gambling without controls.

An addicted person to gambling will never see if that is positive or negative because he only wants to keeps playing gambling and thinks gambling for most of the time. When he lose his money in gambling, he consider that is normal and will still playing gambling in other days but if he check his balance, especially in his bank account, he will see that his money is decrease. If he can thinks for more, he will considers to reduce his gambling activity because gambling takes a big part of his money and he needs to solve this problem before his money is runs out. But if he doesn't care with that, he will still playing gambling and not thinks about how if he lose for more money.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: len01 on July 25, 2024, 11:36:47 AM
All addictions are always related to bad or negative things and for me addiction does not provide any positive things. Even gambling addiction always looks bad at the end of the story.

If it is about a gambler who earns an income from gambling perhaps it is in a type of card game or similar that is skill based. But the problem is that it all still depends on luck, you cannot predict when you will be lucky to get a good card. Even in sports betting, surprises always come when the predicted results do not match what we expected, such as a favorite team being defeated by a weak team.

And if you talk about hobbies or just having fun, there are lots of alternatives such as playing video games that don't pose big risks like playing gambling which always ends with the negative result of losing all the money you have.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: GigaBit on July 25, 2024, 12:27:32 PM
All addictions are always related to bad or negative things and for me addiction does not provide any positive things. Even gambling addiction always looks bad at the end of the story.
No one can go against your words because no matter how experienced we are, at the end of the day there is no guarantee that their outcome will be better, rather it is more likely to be worse. So we cannot overemphasize its positive aspects. However, if it is under control, there is less chance of suffering bad consequences. Any type of addiction is bad and the gambler must take steps to refrain from it.


And if you talk about hobbies or just having fun, there are lots of alternatives such as playing video games that don't pose big risks like playing gambling which always ends with the negative result of losing all the money you have.
Gambling is suitable for those who think of gambling as fun, but if someone is advised to play without betting, he will never do so. Although gambling is fun but there is no fun without money involved.


Title: Re: Can't gambling addiction also be positive?
Post by: lienfaye on July 25, 2024, 12:40:44 PM
An addicted gambler is already out of control. That being said, there's no positive side in gambling addiction since what's in your mind is to sustain this habit regardless of where your money came from. It affects the overall aspect of a gambler's life negatively and this is the reason why it's crucial for gamblers to know what they're getting into before engaging themselves in gambling.

Those who are playing to have fun and has a set limit to not become addicted can't be called as addicted to gambling for doing so. They're playing even let's say everyday, but still they're aware of the risk and careful not to fall as an addicted gambler.