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July 24, 2024, 01:51:23 PM
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I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money Grin

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July 24, 2024, 02:38:05 PM
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Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.

I'm not sure if he knows much about addiction though. Anyone can be addicted to anything, it's like when you can't do without something and you always want to have it badly but we can't deny that there are not people that are making millions from gambling. They lose money in gambling but their total networth of gambling is big enough to understand that there is life in gambling and this is what I can consider to be positive addiction of gambling and not what he is saying.


The only thing I'm concern about is that too much of everything is bad even though you are making money from such place, you may even have a mental break down from trying strategies on how to win money from them and when you don't want to even lose what you have made from gambling.

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July 24, 2024, 02:53:49 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2024, 03:20:26 PM by Helena Yu
 #83

Anything in excess is harmful.

Water is good for body, but too much consuming water will lead you gets Water intoxication.

Consuming too much eating vegetable is also not good.

Gambling too much is also not good, if it didn't takes a lot of money, then it takes a lot of time. So it's bad for your life, you better spend the time to learn something new or focus on your career.

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July 24, 2024, 03:10:27 PM
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My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
Currently there is no person or psychologist who explains and says that gambling addiction has a positive impact on its users, generally addiction is often and always identified with negative things, why is that.
Because, addiction is always associated with bad thoughts, if people are dependent on a substance or desire, if they don't achieve it, it can have a bad impact on themselves, that's the main point.

I once read the words spoken by a famous psychologist.
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Addiction is a condition when a person does not have the control to stop doing, taking, or using something even when it is harmful to themselves.
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There we can draw the conclusion that gambling addiction is very difficult, it can be directed to the positive.

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July 24, 2024, 03:18:21 PM
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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

This scenario that you described seems to be good, but it is not, imagine that a person makes sports bets and that person has always managed to obtain constant profits, but that person cannot stay without making sports bets, so that person starts to have a serious problem, which consists of the following:

1 - at all hours of the day this person thinks about sports betting

2 - this person stops socializing with other people to spend more time placing sports bets and as a result is left without a job, without a wife, without friends

3 - when this person starts having losses, he will have emotional imbalance and will be unlikely to win again and as a consequence he will run into debts, sell assets and may get into drugs and crime, and will probably end up in prison or dead if his family does not admit him to the hospital

That's why there's nothing good about addiction.

There are people who can play every day but are not addicted. In these cases there is nothing wrong as long as they also play with money they can afford to lose and live and talk to people in the real world.


I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

The function of games and sports betting is to entertain people, that is, to make people have fun. Unfortunately, some people don't understand this and become addicted, but most people play a lot and have fun and are not addicted. So we can say that gambling is a good thing

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

There is no good addiction. every vice is something harmful

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July 24, 2024, 03:20:28 PM
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i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.
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I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.


Usually the mindset of gambling is winning or losing so it kind of addictive in its own form because you are either losing money or gaining money and the emotions are quite different from having a hobby. If you are involving in a game that is your hobby with money then that means you are also going to have the kind of addiction like gambling. Therefore, gambling addiction IMO won't be positive because apart from money that could be involved in it, you are going to waste your time doing that thing so much that you forget to give some time to other things like family life. Being addictive is not only when you are losing and chasing loses, you can be winning yet suffering from time shortage for your other activities. I have seen many people playing games like football or playstation for the fun of it and they continue doing that from morning to evening without taking breakfast and that moreless could be a triggering factor to certain health condition like ulcer.
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I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?
Yes, it's true that when it comes to the effect of gambling on gamblers, it has both positive and negative effects, but just that people always overlook the positive, and focus more on the negative aspect of gambling, because though the assurance of winning games are always not sure, but it doesn't mean there aren't people who live by the profits they earned from gambling, and likewise, so has some people who through a chance of luck, Likely to have won a jackpot which change their life. So in that scenario whereby a gambler through gambling have been able to get a life changing capital to start either a business or build a house, will you call that a negative effect of gambling? But can't be, inasmuch as this doesn't comes regularly and he gamblers responsibly.

Hence, gambling addiction is a mindset, because if you are able to have control over your mindset, you will always have control over your addiction.

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Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money Grin

Yes and logically there will never be anyone including friends here who always advise anyone to treat gambling well in the sense of being full of limits and avoiding various impulsive actions if only there is something positive in the addiction situation, meaning that is because Indeed, addiction is a very negative situation and can destroy all aspects of a person's life, which makes us always exchange suggestions and opinions to treat gambling well and far from being excessive.

As you said, addiction is a situation where a gambler will not be able to control himself, and this inability to control is what makes people trapped in many bad effects, meaning it doesn't make sense to say that there is something positive that we can get when a gambler losing control because it is related to emotions. On the other hand, in my opinion, regardless of whether you are rich or poor, addiction is still a bad situation in the sense that there is nothing positive or enjoyable, because logically, no matter how rich you are, if you are addicted to gambling, it is very possible for you to end up bankrupt because As you said above, addiction is a situation where a person cannot control himself, which means that in my opinion the pleasure felt by rich people does not mean that they are addicted, my friend.

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As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
No one ever gets addicted to things they hate doing, the fact that they enjoy these activities and derive some level of happiness from them is the more reason they need to balance this activity they enjoy with other activities that affects them both directly and indirectly. We should not only be interested in the present benefits we get from a particular hobby, we should also be concerned in what it would do to us in the longrun if we do them uncontrollably.

Gambling is not free, the gambler spends money to gamble. We can only imagine how much a person who gambles uncontrollably everyday will lose considering the house edge over the addicted gambler. This is not a healthy financial lifestyle for anyone and there is no positivity in it. Infact, there is nothing positive about addiction and it is best we avoid glorifying addiction to avoid misleading other people.

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July 24, 2024, 05:25:22 PM
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Addiction doesn't respect your level of enjoyment or financial situation. It's about craving something so bad you'll do anything to get it, even if it messes up your life. I understand it though. One can find social aspects. You run over people, chuckle a little, blow off steam. The shared experience worth more than just the money. We cannot overlook it

when does fun turn into a problem? When it starts interfering with your life, your relationships, your employment. In such case, feeding the beast takes precedence over victory. We should so establish the line there

We need to talk about responsible gambling, about having control, setting limits. You have to know when to leave,no matter how good it feels in the moment. Here is where education (learning about yourself, your triggers, your limitations) fits. We need to change the culture around gambling, make it about having a good time without going off the rails. It's about discovering that ideal balance whereby the excitement does not become a nightmare

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i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.

Of course there is nothing positive that can be taken from the addiction situation, and as we have seen about the situation experienced by gamblers who are now addicted, overall they always suffer from various bad disasters in their lives and I have never seen or heard about there being something positive in it.

As you said and it is correct that addiction is a situation where a person cannot control or control themselves in carrying out an activity which usually tends to make them act excessively. I would also say that at first glance addiction and hobby are almost the same, but in fact the similarity only comes from excessive interest in the activity, while a hobby is something that is enjoyed consciously in the sense that a person can still control himself, such as a hobby of collecting luxury goods such as watches, is that called addiction? I think not because it actually benefits investors. The point is that there is nothing positive about an addiction situation, especially in the context of gambling, and hobbies and addictions are different.

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July 24, 2024, 07:33:19 PM
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i feel that you don't understand the meaning of addiction itself. if it is an addiction then there is nothing positive that we can take from it, because it is a disorder that causes a person to be unable to control themselves and makes them gamble excessively. if it is a hobby then it cannot be said to be an addiction, because the level of addiction is already intense and has a negative impact on a person's life. so literally we can say that gambling addiction cannot be positive in any way, but maybe you have a different understanding of this and that's okay.


Literally, addiction is used to express a bad condition that one finds himself which is impossible to be controlled so even when a gambler becomes addicted and still makes profits from gambling is doesn't counter the fact that the gambler is into addiction. A gambler can still control their gambling habits and not become addicted. No matter how we try to rephrase gambling addiction to be positive, it can't be positive and it doesn't mean that people should become too occupied with gambling activities all the time because it can only lead to spending more time in gambling than other life activities which will still lead to addiction in the end.

Gambling Addiction is something that someone develops either due to the love they have for gambling like doing it frequently or due to trying to win at all cost and at the end get into losses and even trying further to chase losses even leads more to addiction since you will be so concerned on how to recover losses thereby it will make you spend money and time in it which are the factors that leads to addiction.

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July 24, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
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Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.

If we consider gambling in your example as just harmless entertainment (which is quite cheap relative to other expenses), then we can even say that in this case gambling as a whole is completely positive. But the topic is set in such a way that we are talking about gambling addiction and this completely changes everything. Here we must take into account not only what “is now” but also what it can lead to, and I think everyone knows that any addiction is highly likely to lead to negative consequences.

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July 24, 2024, 08:24:43 PM
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I respect your POV, but any kind of addiction is always bad. Remember, excess is always harmful, even with exercise. Okay, let's say a person engages in it out of boredom, to relieve stress, or for fun. But what if it continues for months or even a year, resulting in continuous losses, which is highly possible in gambling. That can eventually lead to a person wanting to win back their losses, creating a cycle. One must have a very strong will to avoid falling into that state.

Addiction tends to have a negative connotation to an action. That's because addiction is the loss of control over a situation. Gambling addiction means losing control of gambling activities. In some of the problems that occur, this gambling addiction occurs and results in material losses. In fact, many of these incidents made life difficult for their families, even many were sick because they were not strong enough to think about the problem of gambling addiction that made their wealth run out.
That is why gambling must be played with limits so as not to become addicted to gambling because in fact the effects of gambling addiction are more detrimental to yourself, your family and even close relatives because someone who is addicted to gambling certainly cannot control themselves and if it is like that they will eventually run out. a lot of money.
Fun gambling addiction can only be done by people who are very rich and usually rich people make gambling a hobby so they don't have a problem even if they have to gamble every day because they are confused about how to spend their money Grin
No matter how rich you are if your gamble without caution, you will get addicted and if you get addicted there is high possibility of you going bankrupt with gambling only if you gamble once in a while but if it is everyday, you will be addicted and lose more money every day and gradually your source of income might dry up. This is why one must gamble responsible to avoid addiction and big losses. Addiction only have consequences and I don't think that there is any benefit to gambling addiction.

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July 24, 2024, 08:33:02 PM
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It is easy to determine if your gambling addiction is good or bad for you. It's easy to see if gambling is bad for you if it causes financial problems, takes up too much time, makes you feel bad, leads to chasing losses, neglecting responsibilities or harms your relationships (all of these are connected). And gambling na addiction might be good for you if it stays within your budget, is done in moderation, makes you feel entertained and doesn't affect with your responsibilities or relationships. I can say this because I have experienced all of this (I myself thinks I'm gambling addict). In short sometimes it can be good, but most of the time it is bad.

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July 24, 2024, 08:41:44 PM
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firstly you should try checking the dictionary definition of addiction then you'll understand  more better.
the primary purpose of gambler to stake which implies risk and anyone who is taking g a financial risk is expecting a positive result from it and in terms of gambling, anyone who have staked a game thereby risking their money is already expecting a positive result.

over the period, ive also understood that,  success is associated with positivity while failure as negative and sa.e tnjng applies inthe gambling industry as the moment a gambler becomes successful,  his tagged professional gambler but when the losses are frequent then you're tagged an addict and the line between is carefulness.

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*Let me know if there is a similar topic so I can lock this one. I've used the search function, but it could be funny at times. Smiley*

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.
Any forms of addiction cant really be considered to be good on which you would really be needing up for yourself to have such control and moderation on whatever things that you are doing on which it isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things, because on the time or moment that you do find yourself being addicted then you would really be tilting the balance on which you might be missing out other priorities or focus into other things on the time that you will really be that shifting out your priority into something. Its not bad to gamble as long you dont really forget your priorities on which this is something that is normally that been forgotten on the time that people do gamble. One of the most common mistake that is really that been taken or done is that they do really forgot on having that financial spending control.

Being responsible would really be always the key so that you wont really be messing up your life with gambling and on the time or moment that you do find yourself having such addiction
then you wouldnt really be able to think up well on what are the things that you should gonna do nor really that tends to avoid. It all talks about on being
responsible and sensible in the end of the day.

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July 24, 2024, 09:09:41 PM
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In my own opinion and judging on the fact that this argument is concerned with addiction in gambling, I would say that being too addicted to something (perhaps gambling) could cause more problems for the individual than the advantage it will give the person. 

Addiction to gambling can stand as a distraction to a gambler in his job, business, or career, which can also help some gamblers to do away with stress, but I think the disadvantage is high compared to the positive side of it. 

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July 24, 2024, 09:19:21 PM
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Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.

That's right, this means that addiction can have a positive impact depending on the context of what is being discussed, in the sense that if gambling is the object then I think of course there is nothing positive in the addiction situation because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk.

But if the object of discussion is other things that fall into the category of good and useful activities without any risk then of course that is another thing that definitely has no risk or significant impact from an addiction situation. But yes overall we all know that addiction is a bad situation, but it also depends on what activity is being talked about.

The point is that if the object of discussion is addiction to gambling activities then of course I think everyone will agree that there is nothing positive that a person can get in the long term.
The overall effect and impression of gambling aren't good.

And we will not see something as this having no risk at all, it always comes with a risk and gamblers know that there's a need to wager with real money for them to gamble.

It's the same with any other vice in that it comes in handy and satisfying when someone does it but they don't see the negative impact of it for themselves at the beginning.

But as soon as someone sees the whole point of it, it can never be something positive.

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