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Title: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: satscraper on August 06, 2024, 05:48:31 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Nwada001 on August 06, 2024, 05:57:36 AM
I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.
 
Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hirose UK on August 06, 2024, 06:08:58 AM
Indonesia is one of the countries with majority Muslim population and there are many regulations and provisions of the law that have guidelines based on religious law, many activities are considered illegal.
So far there have indeed been several problems in Indonesia related to gambling, but on average it is local gambling site that is still fiat-based and many efforts have been made by the government in dealing with or preventing the spread of online gambling.
But seeing some of the news circulating has been mentioned if the spread of gambling there is because some rulers and influential people have received some kind of bribe for protection.
If it is possible freely then maybe accessing it must be done using VPN and I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: acroman08 on August 06, 2024, 06:26:12 AM
I'm sorry but this just sounds ridiculous(at least for me), I mean, it's common sense that a search engine will show search results of pornography or gambling if it is searched on the browser. I guess they want duckduckgo to automatically block any results that have something to do with porn or gambling when being used in their country.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: swogerino on August 06, 2024, 06:30:40 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Nothing new in these type of governments as they try to block or oppress gambling for their citizens,most likely these tend to be either poor countries either oppressing dictatorship ones.The solution is simple,buy a 5 dollar VPN in your phone or laptop and no one can limit you.Now although most casinos claim in their ToS that is against them to use a VPN from what I have seen from major ones they will not say anything if done for a couple of days or a couple of weeks max,again this is just my personal experience with such casinos and does not mean will be the same for all persons.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: satscraper on August 06, 2024, 06:34:44 AM
I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.

My quick research suggests the availability of the private gambling rooms in some Indonesia hotels and if this info is correct such places would satisfy my gambling needs. Regarding to big  casinos, it seems you are right, they are not permitted to operate officially though  some underground ones may still in existence but, I think, such places house the  menacing danger for the stranger thus I don't visit them.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Orpichukwu on August 06, 2024, 06:50:31 AM
I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.

My quick research suggests the availability of the private gambling rooms in some Indonesia hotels and if this info is correct such places would satisfy my gambling needs. Regarding to big  casinos, it seems you are right, they are not permitted to operate officially though  some underground ones may still in existence but, I think, such places house the  menacing danger for the stranger thus I don't visit them.

According to their local laws, which are also not only limited to citizens but also to visitors, gambling activities are highly prohibited there. Even online casinos and their related platforms have been blocked from being accessed from Indonesia, and anyone found guilty of violating the laws faces some punishment, which in most cases might end up landing the person in prison. So I will advise you, if you are to visit, to totally stay away from gambling activity in order not to get yourself in trouble there. 

Is Gambling Legal in Indonesia?
Gambling is prohibited in Indonesia, it is considered completely illegal for both locals and foreigners. There are no proper casinos in the country, and those who practice gambling may find severe punishments by authorities and thrown to jail.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bering on August 06, 2024, 06:53:37 AM
Indonesia ban online casinos but surprisingly they have plenty of active gamblers which are willing to spend their money for their gambling activities and the most popular game which very common to played by indonesian people when they visiting the casinos is slot game and indeed the government was very active to attempts to stop people to gamble so that's why they block the access to online gambling sites and and one of the way is they block popular search engine and this method is often done by the Indonesian government lately
But this way won't be effect to the people at there because until now indonesian people are still able to visiting online gambling sites and playing at there because to satisfied their hobbies usually indonesian people find the way to still gamble and the common way is they using paid VPN to visiting online gambling sites


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: davis196 on August 06, 2024, 07:01:33 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I guess that the Indonesian Internet Service Providers(ISPs) were required by the regulators to block the Duckduckgo search engine.
However, this can be easily bypassed by using a VPN or residential proxies. Socks proxies might work as well.
I wonder if the big search engines like Google and Bing were blocked for the same reason. Countries like Indonesia are well known for trying to regulate the internet, but I don't think that such measures would have any impact over the gamblers.
Are there any local casinos in Indonesia? I'm not sure about this, but I think that offline gambling used to be banned there.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bubilas on August 06, 2024, 07:13:55 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Muslims are very religious and they always demand that guests of their countries follow their rules and laws. These laws were formed a long time ago and they have taken root in the minds of the local population.
Therefore, guests of Indonesia cannot count on having a good rest (I mean alcohol and gambling).

It is possible that a VPN can help to at least have the opportunity to play in an online casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Kelward on August 06, 2024, 07:27:47 AM
Religious matters are very sensitive and people can go to great lengths to protect their religious believes. If the Indonesian government decides to block gambling and pornography on any sites like they recently did on DuckDuckGo, based on their religious belief, I think that we have to respect their decision. But the question is how does the regular Indonesian feel about the blocking of gambling sites? The answer will throw more lights on the issue, perhaps Indonesians in the forum can give us more clarification, so we can know how the gambling community in that country is taking the development.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: retreat on August 06, 2024, 07:36:58 AM
Indonesia has long banned gambling practices and everything related to it, maybe because Indonesia is the country with the largest Muslim majority in the world and it is against the morals of the majority society. But the funny thing is, gambling in Indonesia actually operates behind the scenes and is controlled by conglomerates, if you have a "network" you can gamble freely in big cities in Indonesia and usually it is held in closed areas and backed up by the authorities. And online gambling activities are also quite massive in Indonesia and you can access them easily from your device, there are several online gambling applications that are still operating now but we don't need to discuss that here. So it's quite funny that the Indonesian government prohibits gambling, but actually many people are involved in gambling here.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 06, 2024, 07:50:00 AM
Indonesia with largest Muslims community will not agree with gambling and they will blocked the access to the casino. But I think underground casino or private casino still running without most people know because it is a secret place for some people to keeps playing gambling. It is no surprise to me that DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia because Indonesian government trying to eradicate gambling from their country.

You may be difficult to find a local casinos because that is prohibit in all region. It is better you are not show yourself playing gambling because you can get caught by local police and gives a problem to you.  It is better you don't playing gambling in front of public because there will an operation to eradicate gambling in many city. But I can suggest you not to playing gambling to keeps yourself safety.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Zlantann on August 06, 2024, 07:57:31 AM
Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.

Gambling is prohibited in all Islamic countries because it a sin based on Islamic laws. This is the problem of most browsers, which always come up with unsolicited ads that are immoral to some people. The company should have known that Indonesia forbids, such activities. People who are interested in gambling in the country can easily use VPN but porn and gambling ads should have been blocked.

I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.

My quick research suggests the availability of the private gambling rooms in some Indonesia hotels and if this info is correct such places would satisfy my gambling needs. Regarding to big  casinos, it seems you are right, they are not permitted to operate officially though  some underground ones may still in existence but, I think, such places house the  menacing danger for the stranger thus I don't visit them.

These strict anti-gambling laws are more prevalent in the Northern part of the country where offenders can face flogging and even as much as 2-3 years imprisonment. If one of your main intentions is to enjoy casino games during your visit, I suggest you seek alternatives or visit neighboring countries where gambling is tolerated. It will be very dangerous to engage in illegal gambling as a foreigner, you might be caught easily since you don't understand how it is secretly operated.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: summonerrk on August 06, 2024, 02:07:40 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Muslims are very religious and they always demand that guests of their countries follow their rules and laws. These laws were formed a long time ago and they have taken root in the minds of the local population.
Therefore, guests of Indonesia cannot count on having a good rest (I mean alcohol and gambling).

It is possible that a VPN can help to at least have the opportunity to play in an online casino.

I have known this search engine for a long time and I like it very much. It is not Tor, but when I surf the Internet in Duck, I am calm about my data, unlike all other browsers. And I did not notice that this browser is inclined to vulgarity and gambling. It seems that Indonesian regulators just want to get money from the creators of DuckDuckGo.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: dzungmobile on August 06, 2024, 02:11:28 PM
I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously
Indonesia is a country with diversify religions but Muslim is a main religion there.

If anyone doubts about it, they can look at Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Indonesia

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According to Ministry of Home Affairs data in 2023, 87.06% of Indonesians identified themselves as Muslim (with Sunnis about 99%, Shias about 1%), 10.47% Christians (7.41% Protestants, 3.06% Roman Catholic), 1.68% Hindu, 0.71% Buddhists, 0.03% Confucians and 0.05% others.

With this domination of Muslim in the nation and strict rules of the religion against gambling, it makes sense why Indonesian government are doing harsh against gambling and limit exposure of citizens with gambling through search results.

I only surprise that it's Duckduckgo, not Google because Duckduckgo is an available search engine with Tor browser. How does it block users on Tor like Indonesian users?


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Cantsay on August 06, 2024, 02:20:23 PM
I'm sorry but this just sounds ridiculous(at least for me), I mean, it's common sense that a search engine will show search results of pornography or gambling if it is searched on the browser. I guess they want duckduckgo to automatically block any results that have something to do with porn or gambling when being used in their country.


I don’t know what the people that complained search for but if it had nothing to do with “porn” or “gambling” and yet it brought it up then the ban was appropriate - but if they did search for terms that are related to those stuffs and yet complained about the result then the ban is bullshit and shouldn’t have been placed in that search engine. 

Search engines usually have “safe mode” for this kind of stuff, if you know you don’t want contents that are +18 then turn it on and safely search the internet without fear of being given result of +18 contents. I rarely use DuckDuckGo so I can’t really tell how strict they are when it comes to safe search mode or if they even have one.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: coin-investor on August 06, 2024, 02:43:29 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

All the answers are already in the article: gambling is illegal in Indonesia. It is a Muslim country, so the government will monitor anything and everything that is Haram and it's not the only Muslim that does that, so the action is pretty obvious on their part.

According to the article, Google's search engine is still working, maybe because they already censored it for Indonesians so they could retain their presence.

I think Duck Duck should follow Google's lead to enter Indonesia, which is to restrict or censor their search engine.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Eternad on August 06, 2024, 02:47:57 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

AFAIK, Indonesia is never a gambling friendly. Our fellow Indonesian forum member is using VPN and other ways just to access some popular online casino. They can only play on some online casino that specifically licensed for their country but the general casino license such as Curacao usually restricts Indonesia for accessing the casino.

I believe their government wants to regulate their citizens properly in terms of gambling activities since they want their citizens to only play on government license casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Woodie on August 06, 2024, 02:48:58 PM
I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.
Correct!!

I almost thought there was some political tension going on in that country Not until after remembering that this part of the world take religious beliefs seriously.

But out of curiosity I don't think the government got involved out of the blue, the community must have complained and needed the help of the immorality going on especially that this is a digital age and anything can be accessed via the internet ...the porn, gambling , scamming etcetera just show how much freedom is out there on the internet, but with proper guidance they should get the citizens back on track especially the minor's who need their futures safeguarded.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Marvelockg on August 06, 2024, 03:03:10 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
since the action is a religiously sponsored one that's backed up by the authorities, there is always little or nothing you can do about it other than looking for alternatives like the use of the VPN which should work very fine. If we are talking about restrictions on getting access to site, we should have suffered more from those action but we just have to come to the reality that you can't underestimate the powers of your political leaders but can always find your way out of those situations.

This is not just a Muslim case but also touches on other religion like Christianity.  Pornography and gambling is a practice that's not in line with the practices of Christians and Muslim and any member that's caught engaging in such attrocious act his looked at as a bad figure that's represented the religion in a negative sense. Apart from subscribing to a paid VPN to enable you gain access to those site, thier are private browsers that can allow you go incognito and access those site at ease.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: YOSHIE on August 06, 2024, 03:10:21 PM
Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results
DuckDuckGo is an illegal site, the site is very closed, only those who like illegal things open the DuckDuckGo site, the Indonesian government has mentioned it here.
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The government through the Ministry of Communication and Information (Kominfo) has officially blocked the DuckDuckGo search engine service. The reason is that the platform contains a lot of illegal content such as online gambling and pornography.

And the reason for blocking.
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"[Blocked] because many complaints were submitted to us about the proliferation of online gambling and pornographic content in [DuckDuckGo] search results," he said, quoted Saturday (3/8/2024).

The DuckDuckGo site is indeed illegal in Indonesia, not only do they advertise gambling sites illegally, pornographic websites are also blocked, so it's natural for the government to take firm action/blocking.

So, don't worry about other gambling sites, they are still safe to use, all gambling sites that operate on this forum are open and can be played freely, DuckDuckGo is web only, we can still use Google, Chrome and so on which are legal, not a problem for societyIndonesia DuckDuckGo web blocking.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: panjul07 on August 06, 2024, 03:16:40 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

AFAIK, Indonesia is never a gambling friendly. Our fellow Indonesian forum member is using VPN and other ways just to access some popular online casino. They can only play on some online casino that specifically licensed for their country but the general casino license such as Curacao usually restricts Indonesia for accessing the casino.

I believe their government wants to regulate their citizens properly in terms of gambling activities since they want their citizens to only play on government license casino.

I'm Indonesian and I have to say that the statement "Indonesia never a gambling friendly" is not completely correct.
Why? Because gambling was something legal long time ago, you guys can do google search with keyword Jakarta Casino, SDSB and Porkas.
But I do not really know the exact time when gambling was fully banned by the government (maybe I need to search about it first).
These days, Indonesia government become much stricter with gambling because there are too many underage people who are involved in online gambling.



Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: dansus021 on August 06, 2024, 03:34:48 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Well Im from Indonesia and if you trying to find a local find casino then I hope you can find one ahahha as long as I know there is no single legal casino here, maybe you can find one or two but those are the illegal one. The government are banning any type of gambling for lot of reasons and same as the other that Indonesia is a Muslim country I mean majority is Muslim and the become the biggest Muslim by population in the world.


based on the news that I just barely read and shocked that VPN are going to be blocked too
"Yesterday, Mr. Hokky (Ministry's Director General of Informatics Applications) had a meeting with Mr. Wayan (Ministry's Director General of Postal and Information Technology Operations), and we will shut down free VPNs to reduce access to networks for the general public to curb the spread of online gambling," stated Setiadi on June 31, 2024.

To be honest slot gambling is popular here and some of its user is a kid that why people concern about.
Indonesia blocked so many sites back then telegram, PayPal and lot other thing is blocked
Porn related and gambling are definitely going to be blocked and if the foreign company don't pay taxes but their website serve Indonesia people there might be blocked too


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hirose UK on August 07, 2024, 05:52:26 AM
I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.
My quick research suggests the availability of the private gambling rooms in some Indonesia hotels and if this info is correct such places would satisfy my gambling needs. Regarding to big  casinos, it seems you are right, they are not permitted to operate officially though  some underground ones may still in existence but, I think, such places house the  menacing danger for the stranger thus I don't visit them.
If you research shows all of these things are true, maybe only in some big star hotels and of course they have given some kind of special tax to be able to keep running the business, but I personally have never seen it.
So far, from some of the information searches I have done, I have not found any authentic evidence regarding the availability of hidden rooms in some hotels that provide place for gambling.
But for some illegal places such as special houses in some remote villages that are used for gambling, it is true, but it is not guaranteed to be safe and of course the majority are only local residents who bet there such as lottery games, some card games, dice and also some kind of sports betting or cockfighting.
For tourist or foreign tourist, it is highly discouraged to visit such places and it would be better if you want to gamble, still use an online gambling site.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 07, 2024, 06:36:55 AM
Was this the first time such actions had happened in Indonesia? Given the long-standing ban on gambling in this country, I don't find it surprising. If you remember numerous gaming portals were blocked back in January, and of course, the government wants to be consistent, which I fully agree with. If Indonesia is considered a Muslim country, what kind of porn viewing or gambling can we talk about? If people are Muslims, they shouldn't even think about such vices. Everything is fair.

Moreover, the ignorance and poverty of the population can only make their situation worse when gambling.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Dickiy on August 07, 2024, 08:17:43 AM
the majority of the population is Muslim, and from what I know if Islam strictly prohibits gambling and pornography and the country implements a ban on pornography and gambling therefore the prohibition of gambling in Indonesia has been carried out since the law on gambling in the country was passed, whether gambling online or land or in public will be subject to penalties in accordance with the laws in the country. the eradication and blocking of gambling sites that are currently being carried out are quite intensively carried out by the government in the country.
the government's efforts to eradicate this are carried out because the majority of the population has a small income, and that will worsen the situation there,
if you intend to visit the country I suggest not looking for a gambling place.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: mu_enrico on August 07, 2024, 10:19:00 AM
I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Locals commonly named this country Wakanda or Konoha due to fear of the regime (well you may already guess from the massive censorship policy), so just you know ;D
Anyway, Wakanda isn't a gambling-friendly country and have never been one in 20 years or so, so don't expect to come here and gamble... There aren't any legit land casinos, you might find one but it's definitely an illegal one.

Feel free to visit Wakanda but for tourism purposes or other than gambling. We have lots of famous destinations/attractions. The country itself is safe to visit and stable. As long as you bring enough money and pick the correct services, you'll never be disappointed with your visit.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Taskford on August 07, 2024, 10:27:22 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I'm not surprised about the action done by Indonesian government since 87% of their citizens are Muslim in their religions gambling is prohibited. Although Gambling is prohibited in most religions but maybe they just take good action because maybe they find something bad and online gambling became so rampant nowadays. Maybe their government is earning from gambling or ads before but maybe they see the moral implications brought by this activity and they decide to stop this since provably that they do a good study and the result maybe didn't end up well then just decide to blocked it so that their citizens will be away from gambling activities.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Wexnident on August 07, 2024, 11:29:43 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
It's not really gambling now is it? Yeah they have laws for gambling and duck duck go just probably failed to adopt said laws in their search engine for visitors from that specific country. Nothing weird or odd here lol. Not to mention that afaik gambling itself is illegal? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. And even if it was allowed, it just shows how much the government controls gambling itself, instead of outright banning it like other countries.

Also, wouldn't really want to go to a local casino on an overseasa trip. Like really? Pretty sure there's other better vists you can go to.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Questat on August 07, 2024, 12:25:59 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Just don't gamble for a while and enjoy your vacation. Alternatively, you can use a VPN to try to access the gambling site, but there's a risk involved, so you should be aware of that. The only way to bypass the restriction is by using a VPN, so you either take the risk and gamble or accept the reality that you can't gamble in that country where gambling is prohibited. This is a good opportunity to test your self-control.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: aioc on August 07, 2024, 01:01:42 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Now you know that gambling is illegal in gambling and since it's considered Haram in their country, anything that is associated with gambling cannot exist in Indonesia.

The Indonesian government is just trying to protect its people from the harmful effects of gambling. If you're visiting Indonesia, you will have to use VPN to gamble online since they do not have a land-based casino.
Indonesia is a beautiful country, but you will have to skip it if you are looking for countries with land-based casinos.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: joniboini on August 07, 2024, 01:08:57 PM
Not to mention that afaik gambling itself is illegal? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. And even if it was allowed, it just shows how much the government controls gambling itself, instead of outright banning it like other countries.
Yes as mentioned above, gambling is illegal. I think this is not the first time the government make stupid blocking decisions. I remember other top-level domains got blocked because some people use their sub-domain to host banned services. Just recently they also blocked Wordpress iirc. They managed to stop people from using DNS filtering with tools like Warp from Cloudflare too iirc, so it take s a little bit more effort if you want to bypass their DNS filter. Kind of a shame they choose a band-aid solution like this instead of educating people or block the illegal websites directly.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: letteredhub on August 07, 2024, 01:51:22 PM
I'm sorry but this just sounds ridiculous(at least for me), I mean, it's common sense that a search engine will show search results of pornography or gambling if it is searched on the browser. I guess they want duckduckgo to automatically block any results that have something to do with porn or gambling when being used in their country.
Anyone from a non-muslim society would definitely have wit to find this ridiculous but the perspective will be different from an Indonesian who understands the cultural background of his society. I believe it's what it's allowed through the search engine that will pop up. And if porn ads as well as gambling are restricted ain't no way they're going to pop up. If a company want to establish in a country I think they just either have to abide by the government policies or leave if they can't abide by it. duckduckgo are conversant with the existing laws not that they were operating in ignorance because before now many sites has been ban/blocked for similar offence.


I think in Indonesia there are no land-based casinos anywhere so you will never be able to find it.

My quick research suggests the availability of the private gambling rooms in some Indonesia hotels and if this info is correct such places would satisfy my gambling needs. Regarding to big  casinos, it seems you are right, they are not permitted to operate officially though  some underground ones may still in existence but, I think, such places house the  menacing danger for the stranger thus I don't visit them.

According to their local laws, which are also not only limited to citizens but also to visitors, gambling activities are highly prohibited there. Even online casinos and their related platforms have been blocked from being accessed from Indonesia, and anyone found guilty of violating the laws faces some punishment, which in most cases might end up landing the person in prison. So I will advise you, if you are to visit, to totally stay away from gambling activity in order not to get yourself in trouble there. 

Is Gambling Legal in Indonesia?
Gambling is prohibited in Indonesia, it is considered completely illegal for both locals and foreigners. There are no proper casinos in the country, and those who practice gambling may find severe punishments by authorities and thrown to jail.
No proper casinos in the country which underscores that land based casinos actually exist but only that they operate underground as illegitimate casinos, so for a gambler over there faces double risk's, the risk of going to jail with the risk of losing your money as you gamble. I find this dual risk funny though. ;D


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: EluguHcman on August 07, 2024, 02:32:05 PM
Indonesia ban online casinos but surprisingly they have plenty of active gamblers which are willing to spend their money for their gambling activities
It actually does not make sense about the governments restricting citizens from activities that derives them fun but being realistic, responsible governments would always respond to actions which has potentials to damage the citizens reputation.

Imagine the agilities of this Indonesians willingness to have their hard earned money lavished on gambling and not even that there are existing flexible opportunities to earn those money as they faces hard economy system.

So the action of the government banning online casinos there was to help curtail the level and anxieties of gambling in the country because there are excessive high rate gambling addiction there.

Moreso, the religions practices of Indonesians is highily acknowledged and respected which gambling is one recognized activity that is against their religious practices.
Definitely there will be an ease towards the forces of the citizens loose too much on gambling when they can no longer have that self services of betting at their comfortabilities or betting at their Privacies while gambling online.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: pakhitheboss on August 07, 2024, 02:52:13 PM
I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I am not so sure but Bali is the place, which is outside of Indonesia for all the good activities. It seems you would need to do some research before going to this country as the rules are very different in Indonesia and on that island. I do not think that you can officially gamble in that country of Bali but there is said to be unregistered gambling in that part. I will not be able to support my theory as one of my friends did tell me about local gambling. He said cockfighting is a game where anyone can place their bet. It is clear that gambling in that country exists in a different form and you should do your research or ask the Philippines board.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Findingnemo on August 07, 2024, 03:10:24 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Indonesia is an Islamic nation and most of them outright banned gambling due to the religion so I wonder why you get an impression that it was legal all the time and now you started doing some research due to your trip then you stumbled with your information.

Bypassing ISP block isn't that really hard, all we need is VPN but using VPN on casinos can cause lot of troubles.

And I am sure you can find lot of unregulated gambling centers there, I had one colleague a long before who was from Indonesia and deeply addicted to lotto and he mentioned about various kinds of gambling is possible in their country.

Anyway you're not supposed to violates country laws especially when you're a foreigner.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hispo on August 07, 2024, 04:35:27 PM
Is not Indonesia like one of the biggest countries in the world in terms of Muslim population?
If so, then I would not be surprised if the government of the country (loyal to the Sharia law) decided to make it harder for the people of the country to access to gambling by blocking that search engine.
Though, It is also a tough hit to those who were interested only in the privacy enhancing features of the search engine, and did not intend to gamble in the first place...

Regardless of this action by the government, people who wish to gamble will continue to do so, underground and using VPNs 


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Slow death on August 07, 2024, 07:43:02 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

It is very difficult to deal with governments that enact laws based on religion. Most of the time, they become a dictatorship and use religion as a means of making the dictatorship seem legitimate. I am not defending pornography, but I think that instead of this government blocking websites, they could organize a public debate in which they would collect several ideas on how they could legalize pornography and gambling, in this way they would punish anyone who shares child pornography and they could also open space for women over 18 years of age who want to get involved with pornography to have their rights respected. They could also legalize gambling, casinos would pay taxes and would not accept minors under 18 years of age from playing. Now, when this government keeps prohibiting, then people will use VPNs, people are more vulnerable because they will be playing in casinos that will not respect their rights. With the advancement of technology it will be inevitable that one day religion will disappear


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Fortify on August 07, 2024, 07:57:17 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

You should maybe do more research before making big assumptions about a country then, as it has a heavily Muslim population and gambling is generally frowned upon in that religion - why do you think that they would be "loyal to gambling"? In fact, why do you think any country would be "loyal" to gambling? It is generally associated with trouble making behavior, because while the casinos contribute tax revenues the users who lose money are often the poorest and most desperate in society. Now, whether it is fair for them to block a whole search engine because they disagree with some results, that seems like censorship taken too far, but it's up to the people to overthrow their government if they really wanted more openness and change.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: SmartGold01 on August 07, 2024, 08:00:27 PM
Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.
Yes this could be true because most of the Muslim countries prohibited pornography and gambling ads to be promoted openly, as I know they are too strict on their laws and for that if there are site maybe browser that carrys more information about what they don't support it would be very easy to shut down or restrictions her citizens to have direct access to it.
Howeve, op you could try to visit any other countries that could be more better or more friendly to gambling/cryptocurrency at large otherwise it could affect your gambling exercise.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: iv4n on August 07, 2024, 08:58:05 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

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As far as casinos in Indonesia are concerned, currently no legal casinos, poker rooms, betting shops, bingo halls, etc. run in Indonesia. Even a state lottery run by the government of Indonesia was shut down due to a protest by the Muslim community.

https://www.holidify.com/pages/casinos-in-indonesia-2712.html (https://www.holidify.com/pages/casinos-in-indonesia-2712.html)

Maybe it's a surprise for you, but there's nothing strange here. Indonesia is not the only country where gambling is prohibited, but people always find an alternative, online or some illegal betting houses. So if you are planning to visit Indonesia, you will have to settle for some other beauties of that country, and maybe if you have some friends there they can show you some secret casinos, that can be a real adventure.

I have also visited the local casinos on some trips, but not in recent years. And I don't have any particular desire for it, I like gambling from my laptop and in crypto casinos... I don't plan to change that. Even when I go on a trip I always have my laptop with me and if I want to gamble I just open one of my favorite sites.




Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: jossiel on August 07, 2024, 09:02:18 PM
AFAIK, Indonesia has majority of its religion in Islam and that might have affected this law about blocking popular gambling results.

I haven't been there as well but in Asia, there are countries that don't allow to gamble online. But some allows gambling to happen inside their jurisdiction but only for the foreigners and not locals.

So, religion always affects the decision about banning and blocking gambling related things.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Huppercase on August 07, 2024, 09:10:51 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

The headline says ban for showing porn and gambling but you omit that aspect. I'm not sure if gambling is going to be the primary reason why they ban the gambling search result but even if it is, the porn must have been the reason for the ban. Another reason could be they don't charge citizens from their earning and since it doesn't benefits the nation, they look for a way to reduce the effect on people.

Just know that gambling and porn are two addiction that many people suffer from. Children within the range of teen and adolescents stage suffer from porn addiction and if they are exposed to early gambling, majority of them get addicted to gambling due to peer pressure from friends trying to leave above their means and look for money to get things that are impossible.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: AmoreJaz on August 07, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
AFAIK, Indonesia has majority of its religion in Islam and that might have affected this law about blocking popular gambling results.

I haven't been there as well but in Asia, there are countries that don't allow to gamble online. But some allows gambling to happen inside their jurisdiction but only for the foreigners and not locals.

So, religion always affects the decision about banning and blocking gambling related things.

That's my take here also on this situation. The religion is the major contributor on why their government is banning gambling and of course their laws towards gambling, which has been said that they are considering gambling and all forms of it, online or offline, as illegal.

"The ban on gambling in Indonesia is rooted in Law No. 7 Year 1974 about Gambling (UU No. 7 Tahun 1974 tentang Perjudian), which was enacted on November 6, 1974. This law prohibits any activity related to gambling."

Therefore, it is understandable that they will ban even the search on gambling as they are not tolerating gambling, consumption of alcohol and other illegal activities owed to their faith.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Sunderland on August 07, 2024, 09:35:24 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Unfortunately you will not find any legal land based casino in Indonesia because all forms of gambling are prohibited here.
If someone invite you to play at an illegal land based casino here, it's better not to do that because it could bring complicated problems for you if the police caught you there.
And if you play online on a phone, I suggest not to do it in public places, and you also have to prepare a VPN or change DNS when using a cellular/wifi network because everything has been blocked by the internet providers here.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Obari on August 07, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
lol
Atleast this time when you visit Indonesia, you’ll get to sit and visit other tourist sites rather than casinos(stop testing gambling skills in every country 😂😂)
But I don’t know why Indonesia government is getting really strict with gambling and blocking every search engine from giving gambling result is already a great show that gambling is totally prohibited and you should please take it off your mind atleast for the first time you intend visiting the country so as to stay on the safer side.

It seems you travel a lot
I don’t mind going with you 🤦🏽


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: TelolettOm on August 07, 2024, 10:45:56 PM
Since the past, gambling has always been restricted in Indonesia. And this is stated in the law, Article 27, Paragraph (2), of Law Number 1 of 2024. So, there is no bargaining for that.

Source: Gambling prohibition (https://en.antaranews.com/news/316659/hopes-pinned-on-indonesias-task-force-for-eradicating-online-gambling)

Even the sanctions are very firm and clear, as conveyed by the Minister.
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“Everyone involved in online gambling will face legal consequences. This action is a tangible effort to eliminate the negative impact of online gambling on the general public,” the Minister said during a press conference on the handling of online gambling, in Jakarta, Tuesday (08/08).
Source: Gov’t to Take Strict Action on Online Gambling (https://setkab.go.id/en/govt-to-take-strict-action-on-online-gambling/)

That is why the government, through Kominfo and other institutions, is trying to block all advertisements and online casinos in our country. Although it may not be 100% successful because every individual always has a way to do it.  


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: jossiel on August 07, 2024, 11:04:30 PM
AFAIK, Indonesia has majority of its religion in Islam and that might have affected this law about blocking popular gambling results.

I haven't been there as well but in Asia, there are countries that don't allow to gamble online. But some allows gambling to happen inside their jurisdiction but only for the foreigners and not locals.

So, religion always affects the decision about banning and blocking gambling related things.

That's my take here also on this situation. The religion is the major contributor on why their government is banning gambling and of course their laws towards gambling, which has been said that they are considering gambling and all forms of it, online or offline, as illegal.

"The ban on gambling in Indonesia is rooted in Law No. 7 Year 1974 about Gambling (UU No. 7 Tahun 1974 tentang Perjudian), which was enacted on November 6, 1974. This law prohibits any activity related to gambling."

Therefore, it is understandable that they will ban even the search on gambling as they are not tolerating gambling, consumption of alcohol and other illegal activities owed to their faith.
All of those activities that are said to be not allowed by their religion is most likely going to cover all of those.

That's understandable and okay in all terms if that's what their government believes to be rightful. But here, we know that not all of the citizens there have the same religion.

So, it's possible that they'd do something to bypass that and still able to continue their gambling activities.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Odohu on August 07, 2024, 11:53:11 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
If gambling is banned in Indonesia, which I think is the case, then you should not be surprised if they take actions to limit their citizens access to information related to gambling. These actions might not completely stop people from gambling but it has a way of limiting how much people know about gambling in such country. However, this does not stop you from visiting the country since you are not going there for gambling related activities. Just ensure you take a break from gambling for the period you will be in that country to avoid getting into trouble; I know it will be difficult but you have to try and play safe.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: robelneo on August 07, 2024, 11:58:31 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
You have not researched the country; if it is a Muslim country or the dominant religion is Muslim, expect restrictions on everything that is forbidden. Indonesia is predominantly a Muslim country, so it's your choice if you still want to proceed with visiting Indonesia to try out their land-based casinos, if there are any.
Indonesia is one of the countries worth visiting in the South East. Although it does not have casinos, it does have many historical places, foods, and entertainment.

DuckDuckGo should have updated its preferences for its Indonesian users so they can continue to tap the Indonesian markets; Google is quick to do so because it knows Indonesians are heavy internet users.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Potato Chips on August 07, 2024, 11:58:36 PM
So, it's possible that they'd do something to bypass that and still able to continue their gambling activities.

Yeah, many people are doing it. I honestly didn't know their government has such stance on gambling until someone mentioned it because I've been seeing many indonesian in crypto gambling community lol.

Another reason why this move from indo government is poop. Imagine blocking a pretty useful website just so you can hamper down gamblers who will easily just gamble anyhow. But I guess, this probably has to do more for their report submission or smth.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Yatsan on August 08, 2024, 08:45:03 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

To inform that DuckDuckGo search engine has been blocked in Indonesia due to certain gambling demands sheds light on how strict their approaches toward online content regulation, including gambling, are. Its gambling laws are among the most severe in the world, a fact serving as a mirror image of the broad cultural and, correspondingly, legal stand of the country. In highly secretive Indonesia, gambling is illegal both online and offline. This is because the country has a huge percentage of its population who are Muslims, and gambling is considered haram—war—in Islamic laws.

The DuckDuckGo case points out that Indonesian authorities are very active in regulating and controlling the nature of content available within their borders, especially gambling-related content. The move is in parallel with broader efforts directed at enforcing local laws and regulations on online content. If you are to visit Indonesia and have a desire to wager or participate in any form of gambling, be informed that such legal opportunities are very few. Most of the forms of gambling are prohibited, and the enforcers of the law do not go easy on the rules at all. Rather, you might like to look up all the other means through which the Indonesian culture has a lot in store for you concerning all the varying forms of diversion that do not violate the laws or any custom either.

For my point of view, it is always a good idea for travelers to be familiar with local laws and cultural norms to ensure a respectful and enjoyable visit. Indonesia offers a rich and rewarding experience with a focus on cultural icons, natural beauty and local cuisine.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: panjul07 on August 08, 2024, 08:53:05 AM
So, it's possible that they'd do something to bypass that and still able to continue their gambling activities.

Yeah, many people are doing it. I honestly didn't know their government has such stance on gambling until someone mentioned it because I've been seeing many indonesian in crypto gambling community lol.

Not only in crypto gambling community, I can even say that the number of Indonesian gamblers who gamble with fiat is much bigger.
Based on the latest local news which can be said as the reason why the government did the thing as mentioned by OP, is because there are more than 80k under 10 years old, more than 400k teen (from 10-20years old), more than 500k adults (21-30years old), and more than 3 million people (above 30yo) who are involved in online gambling.
Of course the past pandemic increased this number significantly, maybe the number was less before pandemic and it started to increase significantly during pandemic till now.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on August 08, 2024, 09:46:24 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

            -      As far as I know, Indonesia is actually a Muslim country. There are many Muslim groups in this country, according to my research. So if that's what the country of Indonesia did,
they have jurisdiction to do that.

The government of a country is like that; whatever they want to do, it is really necessary to obey that government, and we as abiding citizens must obey.
And probably, there are still some legal gambling operates legally I guess.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: taufik123 on August 08, 2024, 05:01:36 PM
Regarding gambling in Indonesia, it is very strict and everything will be blocked.
Even now, many Online Bookies have begun to be arrested and the disclosure of local casino houses that have finally been dissolved.

Indonesia does prohibit gambling and actively eradicates it.
But it is not effective when there are individuals who do receive payments and the gambling business is also still running.

You can visit Indonesia and go on vacation, but don't expect the gambling atmosphere you want, you won't find it in Indonesia.
Local gambling is still around, it is covert and unofficial, and it is more risky for foreign nationals.

As far as I know, Indonesia is actually a Muslim country. There are many Muslim groups in this country, according to my research. So if that's what the country of Indonesia did,they have jurisdiction to do that.
You are right about that, the state of Indonesia is the country with the largest Islamic majority and opposes all types of gambling and has full jurisdiction to prohibit gambling. But of course for some types of online gambling there are still many and this is illegal.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Doan9269 on August 08, 2024, 05:19:12 PM
One thing we may not know as well is about the policies and law that guides each countries, some were friendly and some were not, depending on the kind of government in place as at that moment, secondly, these same laws are subjected to review at anytime, which also tells us more on how they can make changes to anything as they like at anytime, gambling is not what we should be surprised at when things like these were behold, we should have known that all countries don't totally go in support of it.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: jossiel on August 08, 2024, 06:48:45 PM
So, it's possible that they'd do something to bypass that and still able to continue their gambling activities.

Yeah, many people are doing it. I honestly didn't know their government has such stance on gambling until someone mentioned it because I've been seeing many indonesian in crypto gambling community lol.

Another reason why this move from indo government is poop. Imagine blocking a pretty useful website just so you can hamper down gamblers who will easily just gamble anyhow. But I guess, this probably has to do more for their report submission or smth.
That only means that many of them are defying their government ruling about online gambling and they're bypassing it.

It's just sad that many countries sees gambling as something negative where it can contribute to their own economy. Just always give that tip to the players that they should do it moderately.

But if this is the kind of action that they wanna do, no one can be against them but still able to continue their gambling activities wherever they are and use some VPN.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on August 09, 2024, 06:40:13 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
The role of every government has always been to maintain the sanity of law and order in that region where they govern, so with this news about "DuckduckGo" a search engine been block in the entire Indonesia region doesn't stop you from exploring the place, if only you have had a genuine reason why you want to travel to that country, because just as been said in the article link you provided above, i'm very sure that with the help of VPN and other browsers such as Brave and Chrome, you can still be able to navigate through your usual gambling platforms during your few stau in that region. Because gambling is not the only reason why "DuckduckGo" is been banned in Indonesia, the high rate of porn search within that area is another reason that prompted that action, been a Muslim dominated region.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on August 10, 2024, 09:20:08 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Indonesia is a Muslim country so they may not entertain gambling as most Muslim countries ban gambling I think Indonesia also does the same though I doubt that they might had an opportunity to be friendly in Indonesia. So, I think gambling as banned earlier and the news is fake.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Sithara007 on August 15, 2024, 04:42:02 AM
Well.. actually I am glad that they blocked DuckDuckGo. This particular search engine is associated with a great number of spyware/adware/spamware factories. A lot of the spyware trojans automatically install DuckDuckGo in your browser and then change it to the default engine. The reason given is wrong, but I fully agree with the action taken by the Indonesian government. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Finestream on August 15, 2024, 05:02:16 AM
. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Outhue on August 15, 2024, 05:51:46 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Are you saying that the search engine isn't allowing you to search anything that's gambling related? Are you from Indonesia or are you using Indonesia VPN? Because this is the only way you can be affected, other countries should be allow or else the search engine will be behind others maybe forever because porn and gambling searches are insane now, this drives insane traffics online.

I don't use duckduckgo search, maybe twice in my life time because we have google and other search engine, even Bing is better, as for the Indonesia country, I am sure that google search engine isn't block in that region, there are people that watch porn and gamble in Indonesia till today, it's just a secret, something that's been done behind closed doors.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Sithara007 on August 15, 2024, 06:30:59 AM
. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.

This is the same mistake that a lot of countries in Asia seems to be doing. These bans and prohibitions doesn't benefit anyone. On one side, they make the government lose revenue. Gambling has existed for thousands of years and a government ban won't solve anything. Gamblers will always find a way to get their stuff going. And on the other hand, a ban will force gamblers to depend on shady actors, away from government supervision. This will increase the chances of players getting conned.   


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 21, 2024, 02:17:09 PM
. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
Sure is. That's what they have to do in order to fully ban gambling. I think it's a shortsighted move to completely ban gambling by regulation when, in reality, they can't eliminate it entirely since there are plenty of online casinos that can easily be accessed using a VPN, with some even promising no KYC. I'm sure sooner or later they'll realize that the move was wrong, and instead of monetizing from taxes by regulating it, they're losing potential revenue while the problem still persists.

This is the same mistake that a lot of countries in Asia seems to be doing. These bans and prohibitions doesn't benefit anyone. On one side, they make the government lose revenue. Gambling has existed for thousands of years and a government ban won't solve anything. Gamblers will always find a way to get their stuff going. And on the other hand, a ban will force gamblers to depend on shady actors, away from government supervision. This will increase the chances of players getting conned.   
For those governments who do have decided on banning out gambling into their country or vicinity then they dont really care on whatever revenue related kind of thing that they will really be that into.
They dont care too much about taxes and other econonomical aspect as long they could ban gambling just because they do really care about their citizens condition when it comes to possible gambling addiction
or the rise of numbers into those people who are really that affected by it. I could say that it would really be that a good gesture or actions made out by the government because it does really shows up that kind of concern and being responsible on protecting it citizens but just like on what you have said that there would really be those people who would really be trying out to bypass everything on which on the moment
that they are interested on playing gambling.

If they would really be liking to play gambling then its not really that hard to bypass any prohibition or bans even if the government would be saying so. There's tons of ways specially that accessibility nowadays
is really that too easy if you do really wanted it, then there's a way. The thing here is that better not to make yourself get caught because on the moment that you do get caught then you do really
know on what are the consequences that you would really be able to encounter. Its always been that recommended that you should really be wary about on the actions that you've been doing
on which this is really just that common sense.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Ultegra134 on September 21, 2024, 03:07:46 PM
Well.. actually I am glad that they blocked DuckDuckGo. This particular search engine is associated with a great number of spyware/adware/spamware factories. A lot of the spyware trojans automatically install DuckDuckGo in your browser and then change it to the default engine. The reason given is wrong, but I fully agree with the action taken by the Indonesian government. That said, I am not sure how Indonesia can prevent it's population from taking part in online gambling. They need to ban the internet in order to do so.
I know it's been almost a month since you've posted this, but I just stumbled upon this thread, thanks to another user's reply.

I'm going to disagree on this one, I've never used any other search engine except from Google, I believe that the rest of them don't produce relative results, but a ban on a search engine might be the start of restricted internet access and freedom. What if more search engines are banned in the future, and what if internet limitations are introduced, censoring what you're able to view?


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: michellee on September 21, 2024, 04:08:03 PM
Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.

You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: taufik123 on September 21, 2024, 04:24:14 PM
You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.
Yes, you should not gamble in public places, especially if you are close to the police station, it will get you in trouble.
But if you play in a place where there are no officers at all, people won't care.

Indonesia will not be as strict either, what you see in Berta about checking the phones of visitors or tourists is just a formality for a to-do list,
even though they will not do it every day LOL.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.
And yes, if you ask the locals where the local casinos are hidden, they will tell you.
It was completely hidden, and only certain people could enter and know.
Rather than you are curious about local casinos, it is better to play on your mobile phone only, it will be safer.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: virasog on September 21, 2024, 04:40:33 PM
I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Were you able to find the local casino in Indonesia? I don't think that the government who are after the search engines to filter the gambling sites, how can they allow gambling casinos to operate physically from their land.

I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.

You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 21, 2024, 04:48:32 PM
You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Blowon on September 21, 2024, 04:58:36 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
You should cancel your intention to visit Indonesia, you will not find an official casino, playing illegally will certainly put you in danger, unless you just want recreation, yes in Indonesia there are many places for recreation, both in the interior of the countryside and in the city, if you want to gamble, don't do it physically


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: hahay on September 21, 2024, 04:59:31 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Basically, Indonesia is a country that prohibits gambling but in reality, there are more Indonesians who are gamblers because from a few months ago there were also indications that there were also slot bets during the meeting. Of course, this proves that regulations are not always a priority to be obeyed because after all, the reality is that gambling in Indonesia is also still very easy to find or play, whether it's online gambling or physical gambling. So, about the news or information I think it is true, but even if you visit Indonesia it seems like I'm sure you will still easily do and or access gambling. Who knows.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: alegotardo on September 21, 2024, 05:05:03 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

Extreme measures such as blocking websites with the intention of punishing a select few but which end up harming the entire population are not only the result of dictatorial countries.
For example, did you see that in Brazil X (Twitter) was blocked because Elon Musk refused to comply with a court order? As a result, the entire population was prevented from accessing X for an indefinite period of time.

Unfortunately, Indonesia is a country that strongly represses gambling, so if your purpose of traveling is to seek this type of entertainment, you better change your mind.
However, if your purpose of traveling is for work or leisure (in other ways), I believe there is not much to worry about.
It is always good to know what the prohibitions are in a country before traveling to it, to avoid problems.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 21, 2024, 05:06:24 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

If you want to go for land based casino, I think the closest to Indonesia, you can visit Singapore. there gambling is legal and there are some popular casinos. don't expect you to find local casinos in Indonesia, their government strictly prohibits gambling. there is news in the media that ever discussed that they are facing so many online gambling site attacks. that's what makes the government make the rule.
they might not have a physical casino, therefore online casinos might be the only place for Indonesian gamblers.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bettercrypto on September 21, 2024, 05:24:44 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

We can't do anything about that because that's Indonesia's regulation, and maybe they did that because there might be violators that don't according to their regulation rules. And besides that, as far as I know, the majority of people there are Muslim believers.

Most people know that as long as they are Muslim, they are not allowed to gamble. If they are residents there, they must follow the rules that exist in Indonesia.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Zoomic on September 21, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.

Haha ;D, I laugh at the efforts some governments put in to stop people from living their lives. In this present age, the only people the government can successfully stop from gambling are those who are not really passionate about gambling. Real gamblers would always find a way to gamble and it will be very difficult for the government to catch them.

When the government begins to dictate how people should live their lives all because of some religious practice in that country, I see it that the government is trespassing. People should be allowed to do what they enjoy doing, as long as it doesn't cause harm to the next person. Strict gambling regulations like this are not really neccessary.

If the government is wise, they would be making money from gambling instead of investing so much in preventing people from gambling.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 21, 2024, 07:40:49 PM
You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.


VPN can bypass the block but it also leads to blocking our funds cause casinos mentioned that in their terms, people who are from restricted regions are not allowed to gamble so for our own sake it's better not to take that risk cause sooner or later it will get back to us when we have to go through for verification.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 21, 2024, 07:58:47 PM
You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.

Haha ;D, I laugh at the efforts some governments put in to stop people from living their lives. In this present age, the only people the government can successfully stop from gambling are those who are not really passionate about gambling. Real gamblers would always find a way to gamble and it will be very difficult for the government to catch them.

When the government begins to dictate how people should live their lives all because of some religious practice in that country, I see it that the government is trespassing. People should be allowed to do what they enjoy doing, as long as it doesn't cause harm to the next person. Strict gambling regulations like this are not really neccessary.

If the government is wise, they would be making money from gambling instead of investing so much in preventing people from gambling.
Even here in our country on which the government had blocked out a certain exchange platform on which its effective since  the website URL cant really be accessed by its internet provider on which this had resulted out for its site to be non accessible but its true that when the moment that you do make use of VPN then those bans will really be totally useless. Also, they havent totally able to block it out
since you could really be still able to access the platform by its mobile app on which its fully functional and something that you could really be able to say that government cant totally blocked
a certain platform on complete manner. There's always a bypass on everything and this is something that they cant be able to handle it out. People would really be always have the ways on trying out
to get through but just like been said that it is really that better that you should be careful because accessing a site which is being banned will really be imposing some risks specially when you are
getting caught on making use of it.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 21, 2024, 10:08:08 PM
Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hispo on September 21, 2024, 11:20:56 PM
Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.

Keeping in mind Indonesia in a muslin majority country and their government seems to follow the sharia law to sole extent, then I would not be surprised if they started to prosecute those who are found to be using tools like VPNs to avoid the blockage the country has on casinos and other gambling services.
Anyways, I have always thought if someone really wants to gamble from a country where it is forbiden, then thanks to the internet they will find a way. All it takes is to be informed enough on the tools which offer anonymity and how to be used properly.
Also, needless to say those Indonesians who manage to hit some jackpot while gambling on some casino (which still welcomes them) won't have to pay taxes to the government, but st the same time they will have a hard time explaining the source of the money to police.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 22, 2024, 02:38:24 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
In Indonesia, gambling is a prohibited activity because the majority of its people are Muslim, making Indonesia not allow gambling, but on the other hand, even though it is prohibited, there are still people who gamble, whether it is physical or online gambling, but what is clear is that currently the most popular is online gambling. Some cases that have occurred are that some people were caught by the authorities for openly promoting online gambling sites with their social media accounts, but this incident did not deter people because many still do it, I am sure of this right. I think there are no local casinos available in Indonesia, even if there are I think they are in hidden places, because if there is a local casino that is open it can cause quite serious conflicts because it is against the law.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Samlucky O on September 22, 2024, 05:55:15 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Koadharber on September 22, 2024, 07:59:17 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
Knowing on muslim religion on which gambling is really that prohibited. I dont know on whats the major religion of people mostly in Indonesia but since its mentioned about Islam then its known that gambling isnt really that permitted.On the time that they've seen that there's a sudden spike or increase of gambling activity or interest then this is the time that they would really be giving out some bans on which it will really be that somewhat understandable on the things that their government is doing. It isnt really just that for the sake of religious aspect but also for the sake of the protection into its citizens in regarding gambling addiction.
Just like on what everyone is really that telling or saying on this one that people will really be finding up ways or methods for them to bypass for them to be able to play up gambling no matter what.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: michellee on September 22, 2024, 08:00:16 AM
You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.
Yes, you should not gamble in public places, especially if you are close to the police station, it will get you in trouble.
But if you play in a place where there are no officers at all, people won't care.

Indonesia will not be as strict either, what you see in Berta about checking the phones of visitors or tourists is just a formality for a to-do list,
even though they will not do it every day LOL.
But still he must concerns not to playing gambling in a public place even if there is nobody there. That will still gives him a risk because he never know when someone coming and watch over him playing gambling. Maybe what you say is right about the Indonesia is not too strict as in the new but we never know the real thing that can happen.

It is better to prevents than gets the problem ;D

At least, we knows what we can do and don't when we are in other country.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.
And yes, if you ask the locals where the local casinos are hidden, they will tell you.
It was completely hidden, and only certain people could enter and know.
Rather than you are curious about local casinos, it is better to play on your mobile phone only, it will be safer.
I also suggested the same things as you to playing gambling from his mobile phones and in the hotel so no one will know. But he needs to be careful when ask the locals about the local casino. That is because not many people know that places and besides that, the undercover police will be around there. That is why he needs to be careful.

Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.
Using VPN is the option for those who wants to pass the blocked by their government. With free or paid VPN, they can still visits the site they want without any problem. if they can not access one casino, they will search for the other casino and they can find it easily.

The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bettercrypto on September 22, 2024, 10:58:50 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
Knowing on muslim religion on which gambling is really that prohibited. I dont know on whats the major religion of people mostly in Indonesia but since its mentioned about Islam then its known that gambling isnt really that permitted.On the time that they've seen that there's a sudden spike or increase of gambling activity or interest then this is the time that they would really be giving out some bans on which it will really be that somewhat understandable on the things that their government is doing. It isnt really just that for the sake of religious aspect but also for the sake of the protection into its citizens in regarding gambling addiction.
Just like on what everyone is really that telling or saying on this one that people will really be finding up ways or methods for them to bypass for them to be able to play up gambling no matter what.

The country of Indonesia is a Muslim country that at the same time also has Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, and Confucianism. But of course the majority there are actually Muslim people. So, whatever Indonesia did, it's normal because of the Muslim belief that gambling games are really forbidden to them.

Now, if there are still people out there who will play online gambling, for sure they will use a VPN so that they can continue their passion for gambling. Although they should also be prepared for the consequences they may face at the casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: salad daging on September 22, 2024, 11:40:16 AM
OP have you visited Indonesia? Rest assured it is a friendly country except gambling is strictly prohibited. If you are looking for authentic tourist attractions then Indonesia has many that you should visit.

Although the DuckDuckGo search engine is blocked in Indonesia (as I just realized) but when doing a Google search engine you can still see casinos there like some casinos on the forum that are not censored in the Google search engine.

Indeed, Indonesia is very rampant with many fake online casino sites, meaning that it is a fraudulent casino that they organize in such a way, so the government must have blocked many casinos by the thousands.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: irsykes on September 22, 2024, 12:18:29 PM
ever seen news on the web that Indonesia is number 1 in slot gambling games throughout Asia until it went viral. the government revealed large amounts of money transactions in and out in one day up to trillions. Indonesia is indeed the largest Muslim majority country. the other side of the news is that there are many cases of people being economically destroyed, committing suicide, divorce increasing because of the effects they create themselves. in the news article


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Strongkored on September 22, 2024, 12:25:00 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
The Indonesian government is very active in blocking all things related to gambling and this has been done for quite a long time and has become even more intense since there has been a lot of news about online gambling being played by its citizens.

If you want to go to Indonesia, it seems that finding a physical casino is not easy because gambling is not something that can be done openly, you can still gamble but through online casinos and using a VPN.

You will find it easier to find a physical casino in neighboring countries such as Singapore, Vietnamese, and several other countries but Indonesia is not a place where tourists can easily find a physical casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: danherbias07 on September 22, 2024, 01:02:34 PM
The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.
I don't think they should/could do that. That's against privacy. Imagine someone monitoring all the steps that you take and they will just knock on your door to arrest you without any good reason at all.

It's okay if they ban these search engines, websites with pornography, and gambling because that's how it should be done if they want to prevent the rampant number of users who are doing it. They can also monitor the amount of money their countrymen are spending with these bad habits but they cannot directly monitor each of them.
It was said that $20 billion was spent on gambling and I think that's the reason why their government must act fast to stop it but they better do it right and punish those who are offering the service (through banning them), not the users.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 22, 2024, 01:19:22 PM
The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.
I don't think they should/could do that. That's against privacy. Imagine someone monitoring all the steps that you take and they will just knock on your door to arrest you without any good reason at all.

It's okay if they ban these search engines, websites with pornography, and gambling because that's how it should be done if they want to prevent the rampant number of users who are doing it. They can also monitor the amount of money their countrymen are spending with these bad habits but they cannot directly monitor each of them.
It was said that $20 billion was spent on gambling and I think that's the reason why their government must act fast to stop it but they better do it right and punish those who are offering the service (through banning them), not the users.
We do know that government could track out everything considering that information could really be checked out as they pleased but since there are tools on which people could make use to hide their activities
then this what makes it hard for them to monitor everything. Even if we do say about IP tracking then that would be possible but it would really be a very tedious tasks on their part and of course it does
need up resources knowing on the number of citizens then you cant be able to monitor everything and this what makes this challenging. If they have decided on banning it out then as a citizen then you dont have
choice but to obey on it because once you do get caught on violating on things that they had prohibited then you do really know on whats next.

Government does have their own ways on how to implement laws and regulations on which if they do seem just ethical or right for the sake of their citizens then they would really be doing it.
But just like on what everyone is saying on here is that it wouldnt really be something easy or simply to block it completely or 100%.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 22, 2024, 01:51:54 PM
You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
Crypto + VPN = Freedom.
I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.


VPN can bypass the block but it also leads to blocking our funds cause casinos mentioned that in their terms, people who are from restricted regions are not allowed to gamble so for our own sake it's better not to take that risk cause sooner or later it will get back to us when we have to go through for verification.
When you are gambling to earn money, making profit then it's a problem but when you are gambling for entertainment than I do not think you are going to load the wallet with thousands of dollars and winning ten thousands of dollars. I never made a profit from any gambling platform except losing the deposits quickly LOL


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 22, 2024, 01:58:14 PM
When you are gambling to earn money, making profit then it's a problem but when you are gambling for entertainment than I do not think you are going to load the wallet with thousands of dollars and winning ten thousands of dollars. I never made a profit from any gambling platform except losing the deposits quickly LOL

Losing money is different from getting blocked from accessing our money due to our ignorance, I am also not made any real money from gambling just only doing it for the experience and there's small hope in ourselves what if we are the next one to win but if it doesn't happens then no worries we can just move on with our loss but imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. :D


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hatchy on September 22, 2024, 02:21:18 PM
But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
They just force one mans belief on everyone in their country. Imagine the foreigners who decided to stay there for some time, they will also bt affected by these little decisions made to govern their own people.. sometimes it's just best to let Everyman chose fro him self. Religion is mean to be a choice and my own personal view not something imposed on me by someone who thinks his own life style is what is closest to the maker.. gambling is fun and anyone can gamble if they want placing banned on too many economic needs will only withdraw population from their country..


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 22, 2024, 02:45:20 PM
imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. :D
Let me tell you a secret. With some bookmakers when you have a reupdated forum account then they will honor you not to ask for verification because they know that you are using a long years of reputation in their platform and you are unlikely to cheat them, they know you are anonymous too. For them your forum identity is enough.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Smartprofit on September 22, 2024, 02:49:11 PM
In my opinion, the idea of ​​visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.

A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.

In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).

Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Accardo on September 22, 2024, 03:16:07 PM
Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.

The Indonesian government banned free Vpn services to encourage paid vpn services. In as much as they didn't ban VPN entirely in the country they'll have a means of monetizing VPN providers, which could be the reason behind allowing citizens to pay for subscription, before gambling. Moreover, their rules wouldn't eradicate gambling, but it will reduce online gambling activities in the country.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: TribalBob on September 22, 2024, 03:17:07 PM
As far as I know, the majority of Indonesians are Muslim, so it's only natural that they block gambling and pornography sites, because they are not in accordance with religious teachings, but as we also know, Indonesia is also a country that is addicted to gambling, so you don't need to worry if you go to Indonesia, you can still gamble secretly, not openly.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 22, 2024, 03:58:07 PM
imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. :D
Let me tell you a secret. With some bookmakers when you have a reupdated forum account then they will honor you not to ask for verification because they know that you are using a long years of reputation in their platform and you are unlikely to cheat them, they know you are anonymous too. For them your forum identity is enough.

There can be certain exceptions but for average Joe like someone myself and I don't even use the same proxy on every platform. ;)

Fortunately gambling is not prohibited in my jurisdiction and I never had any issues with verification too on that side I'm too lucky but it didn't favour when it comes to actual betting.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Bushdark on September 22, 2024, 04:28:05 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens.
I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on September 22, 2024, 05:20:38 PM
The Indonesian government banned free Vpn services to encourage paid vpn services. In as much as they didn't ban VPN entirely in the country they'll have a means of monetizing VPN providers, which could be the reason behind allowing citizens to pay for subscription, before gambling. Moreover, their rules wouldn't eradicate gambling, but it will reduce online gambling activities in the country.
I could not agree with you that free VPNs should be banned to promote paid VPNs. Hence the free VPN has been banned to reduce online gambling. As paid VPN might be traceable by the government through the payment gateway or any other source but for a free VPN there is nothing like that.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: skarais on September 22, 2024, 05:40:45 PM
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They just force one mans belief on everyone in their country. Imagine the foreigners who decided to stay there for some time, they will also bt affected by these little decisions made to govern their own people.. sometimes it's just best to let Everyman chose fro him self. Religion is mean to be a choice and my own personal view not something imposed on me by someone who thinks his own life style is what is closest to the maker.. gambling is fun and anyone can gamble if they want placing banned on too many economic needs will only withdraw population from their country..
Every country has its own rules regarding gambling, Indonesia is not the only country that prohibits gambling so far and I don't think anyone needs to protest the government's decision about this. If you are not happy with the rules that prohibit you from doing this and that, then look for another country that gives you the freedom to do whatever you want, including being friendly about gambling.

You are free to choose any religion in Indonesia, but you must comply with the applicable rules which regulate many things. This applies to any country you visit, not just gambling, Indonesia also regulates that Bitcoin and foreign currencies are prohibited from being legal means of payment. You must convert any currency to Indonesian fiat before you use it as a means of payment.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Zoomic on September 22, 2024, 05:47:54 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens.
I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.
I do not believe gambling is meant for only those who are struggling financially. Gambling is a lifestyle and anyone can gamble. Although many might be gambling for financial gains, alot too who are financially stable would be gambling as a form of entertainment and recreational activity. Creating jobs and providing credit facilities to the people is no guarantee that a real gambler would stop gambling.  They've experienced gambling lifestyle before, they can only stop gambling if they decide to. The government is really wasting their efforts preventing people from gambling.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Miles2006 on September 22, 2024, 08:49:02 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO. Indonesian Still love to participate in different gambling activities making people go extra miles gambling etc, the issue with DuckDuckGo is surprising because people actually made those search so what’s the point blocking their service. Citizens will always make those search either from another source or are they going to always block and block, I also don’t know Indonesia are this strict with gambling law but after my research it’s difficult seeing gambling activity friendly free.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: boyptc on September 22, 2024, 09:09:16 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.
 
And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.

In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on September 22, 2024, 09:18:49 PM
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens.
I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.
In any Islamic country, the government of that country does not allow gambling as ell as pornographic. As a Muslim country same happened for Indonesia. And to check the sites/posts about pornographic govt can know easily and they do not need to check manually.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: BABY SHOES on September 22, 2024, 09:52:49 PM
In my opinion, the idea of ​​visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.
Do not visit Indonesia to play gambling as it is strictly prohibited here, no tourist visits Indonesia to play gambling.
If you want to be safer to play gambling then you have to go to Singapore or Las Vegas in the west.

A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.
There are no land-based casinos in Indonesia... But for online casinos many citizens can still access because they use VPN services but if caught then it will obviously face legal problems.

In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).
That's right, any form of gambling without exception is totally prohibited.

Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
Honestly until now I to access gambling sites must use a VPN otherwise it cannot be accessed, some WIFI services with their ISPs have blocked any gambling sites.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: LDL on September 22, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.
 
Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.
Indonesia is known as a populous Muslim country in the world so gambling cannot be legalized according to Indonesian religion. Moreover, gambling cannot take place in Muslim-majority countries. According to the prevailing laws of our country, gambling is completely prohibited and no one can set up a gambling establishment outside the government's order.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 22, 2024, 10:38:04 PM
Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.

Keeping in mind Indonesia in a muslin majority country and their government seems to follow the sharia law to sole extent, then I would not be surprised if they started to prosecute those who are found to be using tools like VPNs to avoid the blockage the country has on casinos and other gambling services.
Anyways, I have always thought if someone really wants to gamble from a country where it is forbiden, then thanks to the internet they will find a way. All it takes is to be informed enough on the tools which offer anonymity and how to be used properly.
Also, needless to say those Indonesians who manage to hit some jackpot while gambling on some casino (which still welcomes them) won't have to pay taxes to the government, but st the same time they will have a hard time explaining the source of the money to police.
It's going to be tough for them to find out those that are using tools such as VPNs and any other bypassing applications just to get on gambling platforms. If proven guilty, for sure that there's a consequence to those that will be caught. People from there knows their government rules but there could also be some exclusion and exception for those that are bonafide not part of any religious organizations or not a muslim. But in respect of the government, the people should really ticked off their browsers and stop doing so but who are we to tell them that when they know what they are doing and they'll be the one doing all of these bets and searches?


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 22, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
In my opinion, the idea of ​​visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.

A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.

In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).

Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
To be honest if you look at the past in our country, it was legalized gambling, but only in certain areas such as Batam and Jakarta, only that did not last long because the replacement of presidents and regional heads issued a decision that gambling should be abolished in my country, and yes in our country now gambling is prohibited very hard.

There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/22/gYACb.png
2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: nakamura12 on September 22, 2024, 10:50:54 PM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: peter0425 on September 22, 2024, 10:54:06 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
“Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo has been blocked in Indonesia by its government after citizens reportedly complained about pornographic and online gambling content in its search results.”

Not really that surprising considering that search results include not only gambling content. It is a lot easier, and makes sense even, to block the platform if it is full of content the government would not want generally. Plus, it’s not unprovoked either many have complained.

I don’t know where you got the impression that Indonesia is “loyal” to gambling. Regardless of religious beliefs of a country, I think any country would take extra precautions over a platform that shows pornography and others.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 22, 2024, 10:54:22 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.
 
And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.

In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.

People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail. And remember, there is premium VPN service these days. More than likely, some of its people who can afford are already enjoying such service and doing their gambling activities online without interruption.

Just look at the fact that their badminton team is popular over there, and it says, that this sports is a popular betting sports in their country. It means, they allowing some bookies to do their business. They may be strict because of Islamic laws but they are also allowing some form of gambling.
Source :  Casinos in Bali  (https://www.holidify.com/pages/casinos-in-bali-2532.html)


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on September 23, 2024, 02:23:50 AM
To be honest if you look at the past in our country, it was legalized gambling, but only in certain areas such as Batam and Jakarta, only that did not last long because the replacement of presidents and regional heads issued a decision that gambling should be abolished in my country, and yes in our country now gambling is prohibited very hard.

There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.

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2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.
If I understood correctly Indonesia has blocked/banned gambling as they have not got the correct tax that they deserve. If yes I do not think they had taken perfect steps. If for tax then they should take necessary steps to take tax properly instead of banning/blocking the gambling site.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: traderethereum on September 23, 2024, 02:42:51 AM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.
 
And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.

In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.

People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail.
You are right because gambling in the underground place still existed in some places with a difficulty to detect the place. The government strictly prohibit gambling for their citizens because the effect of gambling make many people suffer even they lost their family because of gambling excessively.
But that doesn't stop some citizens to keep gambling because they know how to find the casino and the dealer. It is not easy to eradicate and explain to citizens to stay away from gambling because people are familiar with gambling from a long time ago.
That is why some underground casino still running their business because I heard that some high officials back up their operation. If the government really wants to eradicate gambling, it is not easy work to do because many sides will involve in that business.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Webetcoins on September 24, 2024, 04:12:03 PM
Anything can be loyal and then not anymore one day. We will only get shocked about it especially if we are talking about gambling. It can be that they will now not gamble anymore because they realize that it was wrong or they will now be involved in it for some reasons. I just noticed that there is a word porn written there in the URL. So that means that porn is also included in the blockings?

It is both surprising and unsurprising. Surprising because porn must be normal now and not really being given an attention. Unsurprising because there are still people who are fully against it as they know what its effects to the person that are engaged on it. Why say that this news has dropped a bomb on you when at the same time you also said that you haven't been on this country yet?

If you aren't really from here then you should only calm down there. Though I see that you are trying to visit here. There must still be a lot of hot spots in this country if not casinos and you better check them out instead and if you are really into local gambling, then there are better places than that. We have the popular Las Vegas. Anyways, the news only said search engine. So maybe online gambling is only banned there and not the offline ones? Hmm...


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: hahay on September 24, 2024, 04:26:26 PM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.

Not only some people can still access it, but there are many people who do and the ban in fact does not really eradicate gambling in their country. Because after all, basically the country is also part of the most corrupt countries so that the ban on gambling seems to have no real impact. So yes, it is not surprising when there are still many users from Indonesia from many online gambling platforms, because they still easily access them. With a reality like that, then I personally am not sure they really do the blocking, because maybe it's just an announcement because they only block only a few related sites, so they don't really eradicate and or block all of them.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: milewilda on September 24, 2024, 05:26:07 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.
 
And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.

In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.

People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail.
You are right because gambling in the underground place still existed in some places with a difficulty to detect the place. The government strictly prohibit gambling for their citizens because the effect of gambling make many people suffer even they lost their family because of gambling excessively.
But that doesn't stop some citizens to keep gambling because they know how to find the casino and the dealer. It is not easy to eradicate and explain to citizens to stay away from gambling because people are familiar with gambling from a long time ago.
That is why some underground casino still running their business because I heard that some high officials back up their operation. If the government really wants to eradicate gambling, it is not easy work to do because many sides will involve in that business.
It todays technology or simply talking about accessibility then we could really be able to say that accessing things could really be that easy in despite on having those prohibitions or bans then people could really be still able to do so without being caught or detected by the government on which this is why it cant really be isolated out 100% if we do speak about bans and prohibitions on which there would really be those people who would really be that dealing up with things despite of being prohibited and this is something not that a shocking thing. Its really that a good gesture or actions that made out by the government that they are trying out to block gambling just because they are really that mindful about on the things or speaking about possible spike of gambling addiction or simply they are really just that mindful about those correlated gambling
related problems. Yes, its normal for us to think off that when it comes revenue then gambling could really give out that kind of possibility but it would really be that still according into them whether they would be focusing out on economic related things or they would really be that focusing for the sake of their citizens condition.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Hirose UK on September 27, 2024, 05:16:23 AM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.
Not only some people can still access it, but there are many people who do and the ban in fact does not really eradicate gambling in their country. Because after all, basically the country is also part of the most corrupt countries so that the ban on gambling seems to have no real impact. So yes, it is not surprising when there are still many users from Indonesia from many online gambling platforms, because they still easily access them. With a reality like that, then I personally am not sure they really do the blocking, because maybe it's just an announcement because they only block only a few related sites, so they don't really eradicate and or block all of them.
That pretty good narrative, haha ​​Indonesia is country with leaders or government officials who are quite corrupt where there are many cases of gambling that are protected by those in high positions or government officials who receive money to help and secure every local gambling site operating there.
If we can trace many things about gambling in Indonesia, we can find various names of local fiat gambling sites and various types of gambling site advertising, isn't this very funny where Indonesia is country that has ban on gambling but there are many gambling sites and advertising there.
I had time to think about crypto gambling sites that could operate and be accessed in Indonesia, if there was money that was deposited for some kind of security and given to high-ranking people who had positions, then crypto-based gambling could be disguised to operate there because Indonesia has many residents who like to gamble, this is just kind of my perception and thinking because everything will be easier with money for the current era.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: mirakal on September 27, 2024, 06:44:42 AM
Whether the government is happy or not, I believe this is the right decision because most of them are Muslims, and we know very well that they do not support such things according to their beliefs. And I think that's one reason why gambling is not promoted in their area, also out of respect for their beliefs. If you don't like or agree with the situation, there are many countries that welcome gambling. 

Surely we know that not all countries support such things, and they also have the right to block attempts that violate their beliefs. That is why I'd never see any regrets about that decision, and I know that most people want what is happening as well. 


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: junder on September 27, 2024, 08:02:19 AM
Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on September 27, 2024, 10:19:01 AM
I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.
Gambling is considered against the law in Indonesian for both citizens and foreigners alike and I believe anyone that practices it in the country and is caught risks the possibility of being prosecuted and possible jail term

From the above explanation it's obvious gambling is against the laws both offline and online, so when visiting those countries, be prepared to be in your "NO GAMBLING MODE" to be safe because foreigners are not exempted from the punishments.

This however doesn't mean there are no gamblers there. There are active gamblers who makes use of VPNs to satisfy their gambling desires.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 10:28:36 AM
Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.

If we take away religion from the equation though, we have seen a lot of countries in the Southeast Asian region having issues with gambling as well. Like the Philippines with the POGO and all the corruption and kidnappings and deaths of gamblers.

So I guess what Indonesia is doing to trying to prevent their countries to suffered the ill effects of gambling to their population. Or at least instill discipline and self-control and not fall into gambling addiction. It's good move by the Indonesian government to block and keep their population in check.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Oluwa-btc on September 27, 2024, 10:28:41 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling.

I think country like Indonesia are majorly restricted to such gambling activities and probably they citizens must have been making use of this particular search engine to  for gambling and it's being noticed by the government so definitely it has led to them blocking it entirely so none of the citizens or individuals that reside in Indonesia can make use of the search engine again. with this is it that there's no room for gambling in this country anymore? Yeah knowing the level of negative outcome gambling has brought to an individual and the society I believe this is a more reason why such countries prohibit physical gambling casinos as well as online casinos and it could be of great importance to the citizens tho.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bubilas on September 27, 2024, 10:54:04 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I often use this search tool. It promises to provide complete anonymity, so DuckDuckGo can be considered a kind of Thor in the world of browsers. And I want to say that the search in this browser does not show anything prohibited at all. They are much more decent than the native search engines in the country where I live. I think that the attempt to make claims from the state to this browser are far-fetched and dictated by some other reasons.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Yaunfitda on September 27, 2024, 11:13:27 AM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I often use this search tool. It promises to provide complete anonymity, so DuckDuckGo can be considered a kind of Thor in the world of browsers. And I want to say that the search in this browser does not show anything prohibited at all. They are much more decent than the native search engines in the country where I live. I think that the attempt to make claims from the state to this browser are far-fetched and dictated by some other reasons.
Because DuckDuckGo is more of a privacy centric search engine and so not just Indonesia, maybe many gamblers have been using it so that it's going to be hard to trace. But for sure the country ISP might have caught up and they reported it to their government and so the total banned or blocking of this popular search engine. So it make sense for them to do that. But the question is, what could be the next one? Gamblers are evolving too, and could be looking for the next search engine that will give them the result that they wanted, so this is going to be a cat and mouse game, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: michellee on September 27, 2024, 02:51:33 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I often use this search tool. It promises to provide complete anonymity, so DuckDuckGo can be considered a kind of Thor in the world of browsers. And I want to say that the search in this browser does not show anything prohibited at all. They are much more decent than the native search engines in the country where I live. I think that the attempt to make claims from the state to this browser are far-fetched and dictated by some other reasons.
Indonesia prohibit gambling so their government see people use DuckDuckGo to search for something that in grey side so they decide to blocked. Maybe that is a right decision from the government but we know that people can use the other ways to still use DuckDuckGo or other browser that can suit them. The government can block something from Internet but they can not stop people from still using that so it need awareness from their people not to abuse something that they already prohibit.

The effect from people playing gambling will be bigger because they will becomes addicted to gambling and lost much money. The government should give more attention to gambling because many younger now are playing gambling too. They can search for more information from many ways and not just from DuckDuckGo which is blocked by their government.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: dunfida on September 27, 2024, 02:58:48 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

I often use this search tool. It promises to provide complete anonymity, so DuckDuckGo can be considered a kind of Thor in the world of browsers. And I want to say that the search in this browser does not show anything prohibited at all. They are much more decent than the native search engines in the country where I live. I think that the attempt to make claims from the state to this browser are far-fetched and dictated by some other reasons.
Indonesia prohibit gambling so their government see people use DuckDuckGo to search for something that in grey side so they decide to blocked. Maybe that is a right decision from the government but we know that people can use the other ways to still use DuckDuckGo or other browser that can suit them. The government can block something from Internet but they can not stop people from still using that so it need awareness from their people not to abuse something that they already prohibit.

The effect from people playing gambling will be bigger because they will becomes addicted to gambling and lost much money. The government should give more attention to gambling because many younger now are playing gambling too. They can search for more information from many ways and not just from DuckDuckGo which is blocked by their government.
There's ton of ways and even just simply making use of a free VPN on which you could be able to make use on OPERA browser on which you could directly be able to visit sites that it is really that prohibited into your country. This is why there's no way that it would really be that completely be isolated into this case and there would really be those people who would really be that trying out to access things despite of such ban
or block. The cons on  here is that whenever you do get caught then for sure you would be suffering some penalties or even worst. The main question is, on how they would really be able to detect it out?
This is why there's no way that we would really be that getting rid into those people who would be tending out to access, on which this isnt really that something that isnt that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well.

There's no way for it to be completely blocked. Somehow on what the government had done on here does really shows that they do really care about into their citizens specially into gambling addiction.
Usually government wont really be minding about their citizen but rather they would really be preferring on having that getting huge revenue and taxation towards these business
rather than on minding about their citizens condition on which its really that something rare for government to do so.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: rahmad2nd on September 27, 2024, 03:07:22 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

There are no local casinos in our country, even just for a gambling ticket shop. in other words, gambling is something that is illegal based on the jurisdiction in our country. although, there are many local online casinos that can be easily accessed without having to use tricks or the like. related to the title above, I really don't know and there is no news in the local media regarding your post. so, don't expect to find a land-based casino except in unofficial places. even then, with the risks that must be borne. Indonesia is a friendly place, I represent it because of our beloved country. there are many beautiful destinations, but unfortunately don't expect to find a land-based casino. does not mean it is not friendly to gambling, we even have stories from the kingdom era about games that involve betting. however, currently it is not legal and should be legalized. thus, people who like this one entertainment need not be afraid and are not considered a criminal. the benefits are also many, if Indonesia legalizes it. maybe not for now, someday it could be legal again.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Yucky on September 27, 2024, 04:01:37 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

There are no local casinos in our country, even just for a gambling ticket shop. in other words, gambling is something that is illegal based on the jurisdiction in our country. although, there are many local online casinos that can be easily accessed without having to use tricks or the like. related to the title above, I really don't know and there is no news in the local media regarding your post. so, don't expect to find a land-based casino except in unofficial places. even then, with the risks that must be borne. Indonesia is a friendly place, I represent it because of our beloved country. there are many beautiful destinations, but unfortunately don't expect to find a land-based casino. does not mean it is not friendly to gambling, we even have stories from the kingdom era about games that involve betting. however, currently it is not legal and should be legalized. thus, people who like this one entertainment need not be afraid and are not considered a criminal. the benefits are also many, if Indonesia legalizes it. maybe not for now, someday it could be legal again.

And that just goes to explain it all, which makes sense. The government of Indonesia will not meddle in an affair of a certain brand if they didn't notice a breach in government policy. And if they don't act to caution it, more people might fall victim and become defaulters.

So it only goes to show that Indonesia is not so open to physical casinos, but the online casinos are not restricted. Anybody can go online and play their games and have their fun. And maybe when you travel for vacations to another state, you could visit a physical casino if you want to get the live experiences of gambling.

I think it's not much of an issue. Probably with time, the government will see reason to let physical casinos stay with proper rules and regulation. I think that would just work fine for the people that are interested in gambling.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Jating on September 27, 2024, 06:22:33 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.

There are no local casinos in our country, even just for a gambling ticket shop. in other words, gambling is something that is illegal based on the jurisdiction in our country. although, there are many local online casinos that can be easily accessed without having to use tricks or the like. related to the title above, I really don't know and there is no news in the local media regarding your post. so, don't expect to find a land-based casino except in unofficial places. even then, with the risks that must be borne. Indonesia is a friendly place, I represent it because of our beloved country. there are many beautiful destinations, but unfortunately don't expect to find a land-based casino. does not mean it is not friendly to gambling, we even have stories from the kingdom era about games that involve betting. however, currently it is not legal and should be legalized. thus, people who like this one entertainment need not be afraid and are not considered a criminal. the benefits are also many, if Indonesia legalizes it. maybe not for now, someday it could be legal again.

Not sure though if Indonesia might want to legalized gambling, I mean it's predominantly Muslim and so with that the government is not wanting to go to that because of their religion. The thing though with gambling is that it's really affect all of us.

And the government of Indonesia is really not wanting their people to be addicted and so they cut or block this popular search engine. So for Indonesian gamblers here, maybe they can still access crypto related casinos and continue to gamble.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Ojima-ojo on September 27, 2024, 07:03:05 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Any platform can be taken down for violating a country law, this is because in some countries even though gambling is not restricted, each gambling sites have to be licensed and fully compliant with the local laws, so as not to excape tax payment or engage ib money laundering Sega, this is why if a casino is find to have violated such law, regardless of what third party engage them, it punishment will rob off on all.


Another reason is that, many gamblers who already knows the majority of casinos with in their country and how their laws works but want to use some other casinos that have no regulations and easily abused, it becomes a hot topic of search and the government is seeing everything, so duckdice will likely and definitely fall into such troubles since their are the search engine used for that.





Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: crwth on September 27, 2024, 07:17:33 PM
I never knew Indonesia was gambling. Was it friendly or loyal to it, like you said, OP? Maybe you are thinking of a different place that is more likely to be faithful to gambling, like Macau. I believe some areas could be friendly to it, but not every part of it.

Blocking a website or a search result is common in some countries, and I believe they can do whatever they want.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Zigabel on September 27, 2024, 07:23:42 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Looking at that which you mentioned, casinos don't sound prohibited probably because the physical casinos are such they can have a good level of control over but the online casinos that are accessible by almost everyone is that which they would give attention to banning because they understand how uncomfortable it can be at some point because the customers can not be held responsible completely for whatever action they take at the casino or the data they provide as it concerns their age but with the physical casinos they may be able to ascertain all of that so you may still get to have access to the physical casinos if thats where your interest lays and you would want to explore.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: ndutndut on September 27, 2024, 07:55:52 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling.

I think country like Indonesia are majorly restricted to such gambling activities and probably they citizens must have been making use of this particular search engine to  for gambling and it's being noticed by the government so definitely it has led to them blocking it entirely so none of the citizens or individuals that reside in Indonesia can make use of the search engine again. with this is it that there's no room for gambling in this country anymore? Yeah knowing the level of negative outcome gambling has brought to an individual and the society I believe this is a more reason why such countries prohibit physical gambling casinos as well as online casinos and it could be of great importance to the citizens tho.
I come from Indonesia, gambling in my country is strictly prohibited, even if caught gambling can be subject to criminal articles for both players and people who provide gambling places (including online gambling). But strangely gambling is still illegal in Indonesia but Indonesia ranks first with the largest number of players in Southeast Asia. Gambling sites are indeed blocked by the government almost every year but today it is blocked the next day a new site appears, and this is a fact.

On the other hand, why is gambling prohibited in my country because in my country the majority of the population is Muslim, this is the factor why gambling is prohibited here. But currently there are still pros and cons between wanting to legalize gambling and gambling is still prohibited. Because on the one hand gambling is difficult to eradicate as I said before, today a gambling site is blocked the next day another gambling site appears (they only change the name of the site) and even though gambling sites are prohibited there are still loopholes to be able to gamble using VPN. On the other hand, if gambling remains prohibited, the state will not receive taxes from gambling, even though Indonesian people continue to gamble secretly. This is proven because Indonesia ranks first with the largest number of gamblers in Southeast Asia. So this is still a debate in my country, whether gambling should be legalized or remain illegal.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: irsykes on September 27, 2024, 08:19:52 PM
In my opinion, the idea of ​​visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.

A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.

In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).

Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
To be honest if you look at the past in our country, it was legalized gambling, but only in certain areas such as Batam and Jakarta, only that did not last long because the replacement of presidents and regional heads issued a decision that gambling should be abolished in my country, and yes in our country now gambling is prohibited very hard.

There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/22/gYACb.png
2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.
the concept is indeed good for the next generation, whether blocking gambling websites can be done through breakthrough shortcuts. for example, to the main root of the founder of gambling directly so that everything is finished quickly in the government's mission. to be honest, I think it's just a government game, I'm sure the founder of the online gambling website must have secretly paid taxes to the government.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 27, 2024, 08:32:02 PM
Not sure though if Indonesia might want to legalized gambling, I mean it's predominantly Muslim and so with that the government is not wanting to go to that because of their religion. The thing though with gambling is that it's really affect all of us.

And the government of Indonesia is really not wanting their people to be addicted and so they cut or block this popular search engine. So for Indonesian gamblers here, maybe they can still access crypto related casinos and continue to gamble.
We have done it in the past, although the majority of Muslims but it was very important at that time to grow regional income, I think I said it here but maybe tell you again, it was located in Jakarta and Batam, and then in the era of the 6th president formulated the Indonesian government law to prohibit all forms of gambling in operation in Indonesia, and I think the law will not change unless there is a revision in the future.

I never knew Indonesia was gambling. Was it friendly or loyal to it, like you said, OP? Maybe you are thinking of a different place that is more likely to be faithful to gambling, like Macau. I believe some areas could be friendly to it, but not every part of it.

Blocking a website or a search result is common in some countries, and I believe they can do whatever they want.
Not our country is not friendly to gambling, it has become a thing that cannot be contested, but because of the rampant online gambling that operates so the government has blocked massively because it violates the law.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: TEBTC on September 27, 2024, 10:21:03 PM
Blocking a search Engine because of gambling results is one of the worst things that the government of any country will do as there are allot of pressing matters that if the government turns it attention to will go a long way to solve and secondly it's also against the right of the citizens to restrict them of certain privilege


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: uneng on September 27, 2024, 10:55:39 PM
Gambling is unstoppable. Governments can try forbidding it as they wish, but after all there will be always a mechanism to allow gamblers to continue betting, despite the government's prohibitions. It has been like this in every countries where gambling is considered illegal by authorities. And nowadays with internet access disponible for everyone, it becomes even easier to find alternative means to gamble.

One or another websites can be blocked, but then there are still crypto casinos where you don't have to use fiat in order to gamble. If governments are going to track down every gambling activity on their countries, I fear they aren't going to do anything else due to the time demanded to execute such a crusade against gambling industry (in vain).

That is why the most reasonable alternative is to educate the population regards gambling. Teach citizens, so they can understand what gambling is, what its risks are, and then you don't have to forbid anyone from doing anything.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Dave1 on September 28, 2024, 04:23:49 AM
Blocking a search Engine because of gambling results is one of the worst things that the government of any country will do as there are allot of pressing matters that if the government turns it attention to will go a long way to solve and secondly it's also against the right of the citizens to restrict them of certain privilege

Lol, it could be that the government of Indonesia doesn't want gambling to their over the lives of the population, again as I have said before there are countries in their neighboring region has been gripping with gambling and most likely they don't want to be the next nation.

So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: gunhell16 on September 28, 2024, 07:02:19 AM
Blocking a search Engine because of gambling results is one of the worst things that the government of any country will do as there are allot of pressing matters that if the government turns it attention to will go a long way to solve and secondly it's also against the right of the citizens to restrict them of certain privilege

Lol, it could be that the government of Indonesia doesn't want gambling to their over the lives of the population, again as I have said before there are countries in their neighboring region has been gripping with gambling and most likely they don't want to be the next nation.

So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

The fact that a country minimizes gambling in their subjects and is dominated is normal for them to do that because they also do not want their subjects to become gamblers and turn their time to gambling because gambling is not really the focus of the people's attention.

Because we know what happens when gambling is not managed properly or correctly in every person's life, in fact, in the reality of life. And many have been damaged by gambling because of addiction to it.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: retreat on September 28, 2024, 07:32:21 AM
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: bering on September 28, 2024, 07:49:32 AM
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.
Gambling is prohibited in Indonesia but gambling transaction in Indonesia is very huge even it can reach to hundreds of billions of IDR for each week and this is proven that although the government was attempts to block the gambling sites but it cannot stopped the people in this country to gambling and not only the police because i heard some of government officials also likes gambling and according to the statistics Indonesia is one of the countries with the highest gambling activity in Southeast Asia and mostly Indonesian people gambling using online casinos and the people at this country also very likes to playing slots so that's why if you asking to Indonesian people about what is their favourite gambling games and mostly they will answers slot game


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 28, 2024, 09:53:03 AM
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.
Yes, it is funny to see that thing as police needs to avoids gambling and tell the people to stay away too. But police is human and they have curiosity so they can get attract to feel how if they are playing gambling. But what they did is wrong if they playing gambling in public area because many people will see what they do and they will critic that police.

Maybe the law is strict but people can find a way out to trick the law so they can still playing gambling without afraid if they are caught by the police. I guess those who caught will be punished but I am not sure if they catch an officers who have a high rank than them and punished them in to jail.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 28, 2024, 10:05:59 AM
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.

Lol, and so it seems that gambling as well is everywhere in Indonesia? And most likely this is the reasons why the government at least wanted to block the popular engine because many Indonesians are really into gambling. But wait, if the policeman can play slots in his cellphone, then most likely there could be some local 3rd party that facilitate gambling itself?

I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Maslate on September 28, 2024, 10:49:27 AM

I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.

Many people still want access to gambling even if it's illegal in their country.

For Indonesia, gambling is illegal, and the law enforces fines and imprisonment, probably a fine for first-time offenders, and if they repeat, then imprisonment. But the real question is, how many have been jailed for violating this law? If very few or none, then people won’t be scared to gamble.

I believe the search engine you’re referring to is DuckDice. But it’s not just about the search engines; anyone can use a VPN to bypass ISP restrictions, making it difficult to monitor. It's important to be aware of the laws to be cautious while gambling and, at the same time, recognize the risks of gambling on casinos outside Indonesian jurisdiction, as the chance of getting scammed is high, and you won't be able to fight for your rights legally.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: michellee on September 28, 2024, 02:54:14 PM
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There's ton of ways and even just simply making use of a free VPN on which you could be able to make use on OPERA browser on which you could directly be able to visit sites that it is really that prohibited into your country. This is why there's no way that it would really be that completely be isolated into this case and there would really be those people who would really be that trying out to access things despite of such ban
or block. The cons on  here is that whenever you do get caught then for sure you would be suffering some penalties or even worst. The main question is, on how they would really be able to detect it out?
This is why there's no way that we would really be that getting rid into those people who would be tending out to access, on which this isnt really that something that isnt that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well.

There's no way for it to be completely blocked. Somehow on what the government had done on here does really shows that they do really care about into their citizens specially into gambling addiction.
Usually government wont really be minding about their citizen but rather they would really be preferring on having that getting huge revenue and taxation towards these business
rather than on minding about their citizens condition on which its really that something rare for government to do so.
People have much knowledge about breaking the block from the government and as you say, they can even use free VPN that is integrated in the browser. That is why they are difficult to stop their gambling activity because they can back to their smartphone while they are not doing anything and visit the casino. I see a man who sit down in a public area alone and use his smartphone and because I set nearly to him, I can see what is he doing.

I am shock that man playing slot game but I guess that is from local site and I don't know the name of the site. I don't know if he use VPN or use his provider but he is playing slot in a place where many people can see his activity with his smartphone.

I am sure the government can detect those who playing gambling. They have many ways to find that and with ISP provider help, they will get the data. But yes, the government will not too minding with their citizen because they can get what they want and as long as they still get that, they will not do something strictly because that will effect to their revenue.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on October 05, 2024, 03:38:17 PM
Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.
You are correct that those where most of the people of a c country are Muslims they can't allow their pupils to engage in gambling. And that's why the Indonesian Govt blocked gambling I think as there are almost all the people are Muslim. However, they recited something about tax.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: vs2014 on October 05, 2024, 04:00:10 PM
Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 05, 2024, 04:09:49 PM
Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.
For sure this would really be pertaining about into their muslim religion on which we know that gambling is really that prohibited but we do know that not all those muslims will really be abiding on what are those religion rules or whatever the scriptures would be saying on which there would really be still those individuals who would really be that continuing up to play despite of prohibition or totally not allowed.
If there would really be tons of complaints in regarding to this then it will really be hooking up into their governments ears and could impose ban.Banning out completely isnt something that could be possible
on which we know that when it comes into this aspect then this will really be that still could be accessed or really having those bypass when it comes to this manner. This is why there would really be
platforms which do block out a certain list of countries because of some regulation issues, on the moment that a certain player resided into that particular place then they would be having the full rights
on banning or blocking a certain user and there's nothing we can do about it since we had violated something. There's no way that we could be able to stop those people who do likes to gamble no matter what.
We do have TOR browser or using up some VPN for you to do so.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: khiholangkang on October 05, 2024, 04:15:52 PM
Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.
You are correct that those where most of the people of a c country are Muslims they can't allow their pupils to engage in gambling. And that's why the Indonesian Govt blocked gambling I think as there are almost all the people are Muslim. However, they recited something about tax.
Yes this country is a country that has the most Muslims, and that is indeed the strongest reference why Indonesia has a ban on gambling, although we have a history in some areas gambling was legalized in the past but did not last long and gambling was later banned completely from operating in Indonesia, but even so there is always gambling that continues to operate in the country of Indonesia because it cannot be completely blocked, the performance of the ministry in this country is not so good in managing negativity and some gamblers can still access gambling without VPN at the same time to break in.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: retreat on October 05, 2024, 04:42:17 PM

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.

Lol, and so it seems that gambling as well is everywhere in Indonesia? And most likely this is the reasons why the government at least wanted to block the popular engine because many Indonesians are really into gambling. But wait, if the policeman can play slots in his cellphone, then most likely there could be some local 3rd party that facilitate gambling itself?

I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.

The gambling industry in Indonesia is quite large, and most of these gambling providers are directly backed by police/army generals, so their subordinates cannot take firm action against these gambling providers because they have paid security money to their generals. So it is no wonder that the gambling industry is thriving in Indonesia behind the scenes, because they are directly backed by high-ranking officials here and no one has been able to take action against them until now.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: BABY SHOES on October 05, 2024, 04:57:52 PM
The gambling industry in Indonesia is quite large, and most of these gambling providers are directly backed by police/army generals, so their subordinates cannot take firm action against these gambling providers because they have paid security money to their generals. So it is no wonder that the gambling industry is thriving in Indonesia behind the scenes, because they are directly backed by high-ranking officials here and no one has been able to take action against them until now.
This conspiracy has existed for a long time, that some online gambling in Indonesia is controlled by several generals or high-ranking officials in the government.

Some disclosures have been made... the casino servers are located outside and the casinos are instead operated in their own country.... But this is not clear because there has been no definitive disclosure.

Now anyone who promotes gambling on their social media will be arrested including some artists and influencers they have been arrested.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Findingnemo on October 05, 2024, 05:12:24 PM
Some disclosures have been made... the casino servers are located outside and the casinos are instead operated in their own country.... But this is not clear because there has been no definitive disclosure.

Now anyone who promotes gambling on their social media will be arrested including some artists and influencers they have been arrested.

If gambling is illegal by law then being in the authority doesn't change the fact it's illegal and I understand in reality they can operate them under the radar but still if the get caught they are going to be facing whatever the punishment for operating casino illegally. And about online casinos it's the responsibility of the government to monitor those kind of things like casino have office somewhere but still manages to operate inside the restricted country and I guess as banning them from search engine is just a part of doing their job too.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Alpha Marine on October 05, 2024, 06:27:10 PM
I knew about them being strongly against porn, but I had no idea they were so strict against gambling too.
And from the link you posted, it's doesn't look good at all because a whole lot of other things are restricted
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The government has previously blocked numerous pornography sites, Reddit, and Vimeo, and imposed temporary or partial restrictions on Tumblr, Telegram, TikTok, Netflix, and Badoo.
 Here  (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/)
Reddit, Telegram and Tiktok are also restricted. I understand the banning of porn because they said there was so much child porn and sex trafficking going on in the country, but banning other things like this is extreme.
And since it's majorly a Muslim country, I doubt you'll find any legal casino houses in Indonesia.

This is problem with restrictions. Once it's allowed, it can easily be extreme. Banning pornography seemed okay because there was a reasonable reason, but since that is allowed, other restrictions will begin to take place.
Restricting one search engine might just open a way for more search engines to be banned.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 06, 2024, 09:33:44 AM
Indo people are known from their religious beliefs and considering their beliefs, gambling is rampant and so is porn and all the others. I dont think any of them is bad as long moderation is done, but I guess governments have to do something instead of doing nothing to show that they are serious about controlling the bad habits when clearly religious indoctrination is not enough.

However this does sound like a lot of people are going to learn how to bypass government banning tactics, which are futile at best.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: danherbias07 on October 06, 2024, 12:50:56 PM
Indo people are known from their religious beliefs and considering their beliefs, gambling is rampant and so is porn and all the others. I dont think any of them is bad as long moderation is done, but I guess governments have to do something instead of doing nothing to show that they are serious about controlling the bad habits when clearly religious indoctrination is not enough.

However this does sound like a lot of people are going to learn how to bypass government banning tactics, which are futile at best.
The problem today is that so many gambling sites and applications are being created almost every day. They mostly use the JILI provider slot games and they keep on creating new sites like it's different from the first one. I even bumped to one of them which came from Indonesia itself, I don't know if it's real or they are just trying to confuse the players and the authorities on where the true origin of the platform is.

Anyway, it's illegal in Indonesia but we have seen how new internet applications can bypass this and I don't think that their government has the best technology to stop it all. It's not like they have control over the whole internet. What they can only do is minimize the damage.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 06, 2024, 01:44:51 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-blocked-in-indonesia-over-porn-gambling-search-results/) which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
By the time of this post, I believe you've already had the Indonesian experience, don't forget to send my Indonesian gift. :)

Jokes aside, Indonesia is not gambling-friendly, it's Muslim majority, but banning a certain establishment, network, domain etc. without banning all of them in the industry must surely have a reason. The DuckDuckGo is no search engine compared to the bigger ones like Google, so I'm sure that nothing will come out of DuckDuckGo that Google would not also bring out, except that there might be some kind of misinformation or misrepresentation or lack of filtered gambling results or worse, just as porn was included. As you know the DuckDuckGo search engine is always preferred by some privacy and anonymous browsers/networks, which could lead to the issue. What Google will not honour from an IP from the country, DuckDuckGo would display it.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 06, 2024, 03:27:06 PM
The problem today is that so many gambling sites and applications are being created almost every day. They mostly use the JILI provider slot games and they keep on creating new sites like it's different from the first one. I even bumped to one of them which came from Indonesia itself, I don't know if it's real or they are just trying to confuse the players and the authorities on where the true origin of the platform is.

Anyway, it's illegal in Indonesia but we have seen how new internet applications can bypass this and I don't think that their government has the best technology to stop it all. It's not like they have control over the whole internet. What they can only do is minimize the damage.
Yeah there are tons of gambling sites and applications created every day. It's surprising they want to trust these random sites with suspicious domain name let's say toto874.vip betgogo93249.org, win777slot.link etc.

I will never trust to these kind random domain name except the official sites make sure it's a mirror link.

It's dangerous because if the gamblers get scammed by the casino, they will not able to report to the casinos because it's just like admitting themselves to be jailed.


Title: Re: Indonesia gov blocked poular search engine over gambling results.
Post by: shasan on October 12, 2024, 09:55:50 PM
Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.
You are right that Indonesia is a Muslim country and the majority of the people of Indonesia are Muslim. But before blocking gambling by the government why and how the gove allowed gambling in the country? Do they never allowed gambling in Indonesia?