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I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Is that not self-Exclusion?

Its a great idea and its easy for non addicted people and gamblers to to such a act but I suspect
it would be harder if not all together impossible for someone addicted and who are chasing
losses to pull the plug so to say and opt for total Exclusion.

Also I think this is possible in a physical establishment but more difficult to do online because the
person can just open a second account when they feel they need to get back to gambling.

No, I would not. On the contrary I kinda like  those casinos where my luck is at the most extremes, thus I visit them more than often. Regarding addiction after winning the jackpot- I think that man  has overdramatised such outcome. If he has such unbending will that allowed him to get casinos self-inclusion he could cope with his outbursts of gambling.

Yes, it is self-exclusion, not inclusion. OP made an error, I am sure.

Exactly, the person from OP's story who was easily able to self-exclude themselves from casino and gambling activities is someone who has not yet become addicted, and luckily for him, he was able to win before becoming an addict. Some people become addicts first before they ever win anything substantial, and so they are unable to stop themselves from gambling afterwards.

Self-exclusion will require a lot of discipline if it must be practiced on online platforms because of the ease at which you can easily start gambling again, even on another platform.

This gambler is worth emulating because he is wise. Many won big in casinos and ended up gambling off the fortune. He decided to be excluded because he understood himself. Maybe he doesn't have self-control and the only way to avoid becoming an addict is to avoid gambling. Some gamblers can control their gambling activities even if they win big, hence they don't need self-exclusion.

But for self-exclusion to be effective, there should be a level of discipline because casinos are many. If you are not careful, you might register in another casino and start gambling again. You might even go back to the casino and request that your account be unbanned if you are not disciplined. I will gladly go into self-exclusion if it is the ideal means of avoiding gambling addiction.      

We know how to control ourselves than another while gambling. If I win big, I will not go on self-exclusion and I will not use the money to gamble. But for people that can not control themselves, such people can go for self-exclusion. But online gambling self-exclusion is not effective like offline self-exclusion.

Definitely it is self-exclusion that he meant.

After a big win it is wise to take a break... it often happens that after that we get into a storm (long losing streaks, risky situations with much higher bets) and lose everything, even more than we gained. It's something I rarely get to do, but that's me.

The character from the story went to the extreme, after a big win he decided to stop forever and ensure himself by requesting self-exclusion from the casino. It's a bit too much in my opinion, but generally speaking, maybe he made the right step here... at least he will enjoy spending that money on other more important stuff in his life. I doubt I would ever do that, we are all different, so we can just respect his decision... he made his choice and that's it.

Depends on where you live and the laws of that country.
Most self-exclusion lists are not for each casino, they are state-wide and shared by all casinos and bookies that have a license there, normally once you have asked either the authorities or an NGO who helps with that your name should be on the list of every operator there, be it a strictly online game provider or every single physical location.

In some cases it's useless, in others it's pushed to the extreme, for example in some states being on a self-exclusion list means you're not going to be able to stay at a hotel owned by MGM for example, you're not only banned for the casino but from all their locations.


Again, it depends on your country, some have only lifetime or yearly periods, and depending on that you might have to lawyer up to get yourself unbanned before the year ends, which is pretty normal, the self-exclusion won't be effective if you could reverse it with a click.

No. Not that self-inclusion is bad or anything. It's just that I'm fully aware of what I'm doing and can actually control myself. Even now with me gambling, I'm able to control the amount I'm playing with, or at least comparatively better than in the past when I started. In the end self-inclusion is for people who can't stop, or feel that they can't. People who are about to turn into addicts.

Now if we're assuming that I am an addict and would willingly do so, naturally in my sound mind I would. I mean that's why I'm not an addict in the first place lol. Now if you are, you most likely are pretty impulsive when it comes to gambling and self-exclusion probably will not be enough. You'd probably need external help really.

Well first of all, that is not called self-inclusion but rather self-exclusion. And for people who feel like they do not have control over themselves and their gambling habits, it is indeed a wonderful tool. Unfortunately with the amount of digital casinos, it might not work as intended, unless that person only goes to physical casinos and they have excluded him.

But I think that learning true self control and discipline is a better way to go.

But not everyone has the patience for that.

Personally, I would not self-exclude unless I felt like I did not have myself under control. Then I would.

that is the rarest situation in gambling when you bet penny and win a jackpot.

that shows how he love himself and not wanting to deal more in gambling.

Nope , I know my capacity andwill not need to act such thing .

Individually, I agree with independent inclusion, as this person does, what he does can lead to social disability, This means that someone who has a negative background in gambling by understanding other people's perspectives can appreciate attitudes towards independent inclusion.

As far as I know, someone has been inclusive, in other words, the person has positioned themselves towards the behavior of other people or groups towards solving problems that occur in gambling or gambling addiction, So it is very reasonable if they no longer want to return to the casino for the reasons above, I think inclusive actions must be appreciated and respected, it is a person's right to decide to take positive and negative actions.

Yes. If I realize that I am playing way too much in gambling and cannot even control it anymore then I will put myself in self-inclusion or if it's a physical casino then I'd probably tell my wife to tell them to ban me from the premises.

We cannot be prideful when it comes to this kind of thing. If we know to ourselves that we are losing more than what we can afford to lose then maybe it's time to set things straight. Also, it could ruin our relationship with our family if we keep on spending money that is not for gambling purposes anymore.
I'd do it. But as of now, I can still think straight, and sometimes I don't play for 2 to 3 days because I just want to take a rest after a long losing streak which I think is still a good sign that we are in control.

That's useless; if you really want to gamble, there are other places to go; for a guy who wants to gamble, if there's a will, there's a way, so even if you request the casino nearby to ban you from their premises, there are online casinos that you can turn to if you want to gamble.

Self-inclusion or control starts within oneself; even if one guy invited you to gamble, if you have control then nothing will make you gamble.

But if you think you are lucky in gambling because of beginner's luck, you will find a way, even to the point of going to another town to gamble.

Well if I know myself well enough then I think the same action this person took would be exactly what I would do myself because believe me it's not easy for gambling to always wanting to think that there is always positive results at the end because whether you like it or not the results most times are directly opposite of what you are thinking and believe when you come in contact with such results then if you are strong you might break down emotional and even mentally too.

Almost useless - unless there was some national database where your data would be entered and which would then completely prevent such people from accessing any physical or online casino. But if we go to the extent of labeling these people as addicts, then those people need help, because they will very likely try to replace the gambling ban with some other addiction.

On the moment that you do make out such decision then it do really shows that you are really that having that self awareness or control on which it is really that good. This is why on the time
you would really be feeling out on getting addicted then its just a good step or move that you had made on making yourself self excluded or having that ban on entering casino.
Its a good gesture or step since you are wary about on the potential addiction that you would be able to encounter. This is why you should really be careful and mindful
about on the actions because if not then this would really be that resulting into such huge problem later on.

maybe I can't do that. I'm not a gambling addict who bets crazy. moreover, I play and bet online. maybe that's the most difficult factor to do self-inclusion.
the choice made to include ourselves in gambling is quite good. if you can leave gambling that makes many victims addicted, it means he is a fairly responsible gambler. he knows that when he is not limited, he can become a bad gambler.

choices like this ultimately come back to our readiness. those who manage to get the jackpot must be very happy. but for gamblers who have been playing for a long time, the feeling of wanting to win the jackpot again will continue to exist. and that is a real temptation for every gambler.

If I won the jackpot, would I agree to go for self-inclusion? I think so. Not because of the fear of becoming addicted to gambling, but because of statistical calculations: the longer you gamble, the higher the chances of losing (RTP below 95%). Therefore, if you managed to win from the very beginning, then this is a great success, after which it is better to stop gambling, otherwise you can lose the amount of the winnings, and then even more. Also, a jackpot won once will create the illusion that you will be lucky again, and this will also have a detrimental effect on the contents of your wallet, because you will want to repeat the success. But this is practically impossible, because even once, big wins happen only to lucky people.

Very few new gamblers think that way. All I know is that when a new gambler wins a huge jackpot, they will always want to repeat the process because they think they have the knack for it. What a new gambler should be afraid of is becoming addicted, so no, there is no need for self-inclusion, only self-control over how he gambles.

He can still play but should be fully aware of the scourge of beginner's luck. It's up to him how he will behave in gambling, but it's not good for him that he will deprive himself of the pleasure of playing, especially if he started with a good experience.

Self exclusion is only for the weak, since I'm not weak and able to control myself, I will not need that. 8)

The good thing is he know that he's weak, so he need self exclusion for him while there are so many people who're not strong or unaware if they're weak, so they didn't seek self exclusion and choose to continue gambling.

To begin with, I wouldn't mind being in the situation that the OP is talking about :). I think winning the jackpot is a dream for all players. But to discuss self-exclusion, you need to feel what the winner went through. Of course, living next to a casino and having the experience of winning, understanding that you can repeat it once—for some, it will be a difficult choice. Being next to a casino every day, in that situation I would probably try my luck again. But I don't think I can become an addicted gambler since I don't have enough money to play regularly, and my conscience won't allow me to ask friends for a loan.

This is a smart Guy who learns from the mistake of others and doesn't want himself to be a statistic. He applied life lesson from some other field into gambling and it is very brilliant of him. If my options were limited I would ask for self exclusion. By limit and I mean say I cannot change location. The lesson for other people to learn here is that you do not have to wait until this symptom or signs of gambling addiction begins to show before you take the measures like this say prevention his better than cure.

when someone chooses to do "self-inclusion" on themselves, it means that they have a strong reason to do something like to prevent them from coming back to play at the casino, some are afraid of becoming addicted or overdoing it in gambling. and i personally if i get a jackpot, i don't choose to do "self-inclusion" because i feel i don't need to do that. i am confident that so far my gambling has been going well and it will stay that way even when i get a jackpot. i am not afraid that i might play at the casino again, because i feel that i am playing according to the limits and still within reasonable limits.

By the way if I may be honest we have experienced phases called gambling addiction, for me personally gambling addiction is not something foreign and very scary. in short, we have experienced it to the point where it makes us feel chaotic. unhealthy family relationships, other impacts have an impact on the decline in the quality of work and social life that is not good. fortunately, thanks to the experience we have had. precisely such things make it more important for us to involve responsibility and awareness. plus, the importance of creating a gambling philosophy for ourselves. almost most people are afraid of becoming addicts, and indeed the impact can be very detrimental. that is why it is important to measure yourself by involving awareness, knowledge and self-control. clearly this is not easy to apply, let alone not as easy as it is said. that is why, discipline and practice are needed to build our maturity to deal with everything especially those related to gambling. regarding your question, I will not do it. because, we like to bet. however, limit it so that it does not have an impact on something bad. but for those who have difficulty controlling themselves, the self-exclusion option is better than self-inclusion.

it is useless to minimize gambling addiction.
let's consider all the players in the world... probably many millions?  From this large group, only a small percentage will develop a gambling addiction ...
it is certainly a "safety" approach to decide to self exclude oneself but it does not mean that players/those who win a lot always live with this risk of becoming addicted...
Also this Is not really helpful since we know very well many solutions to bypass these limits imposed from self exclusion...

A casino is a specific place for various types of gambling which in Bengali is known as juar adda or asar. But it is on a vast scale. The casino is designed in such a way that you will want to see it again and again. Dance, music, hotels are all arranged to decorate the casino due to which once people go to the casino they become addicted again. Different types of casinos such as gaming machines, table games and random number games. Gambling with so much fun that you'll want to go back when you win. Actually the casino owner knows how he can attack you.

lol, I find it pretty amazing how much becoming a gambling addict is discussed in this board, or on this board.  I personally would not do anything like this as thankfully I am not a gambling addict and am able to stop myself form blowing my money on bets.  I guess a part of it is working in finance and I can't stand the though of losing so much money so easily, so I just don't bet more than I can chew off (outside what I'm willing to lose).

I will not go into self inclusion because I can control my gambling activities since I am not gambling for profit but for fun. If it happens that I hit the jackpot, I will take my time to invest the money and quit gambling entirely, or gamble occasionally so that I don't think of hitting the jackpot the second time so that I don't get addicted. It is when you are not contented with your wins, that you will want to win more and before you know it, you have lost self control and will start chasing your losses to addiction.

Well if you ever won in a casion by luck on first trial. Theres always a chance that youll try to come back there whatever discipline or self inclusion you do since you cant fight the urge or emotions to be control. Youre happy that you won but deep inside yourself you knew you want to try again even though your mind says stop cause you know the other possibility of losing it again.

The gambler excluded himself from gambling again because he knows that if the casino employees allow him to continue gambling he will definitely end up as an addicted gambler. However the gambler that excluded himself from gambling again after winning big through jackpot did absolutely well because if he continues to gamble since the day he won the jackpot till now, he might have lost more than the money that he won from jackpot.

I have self excluded myself from a casino up to two times but not permanently like this guy did (if that’s what the ban means) and I did it because I was starting to gamble in a way that I felt wasn’t healthy enough and could probably let to something else.

If I should hit a jackpot and I know that if allowed to continue gambling I’ll do something stupid then self excluding myself from the casino won’t be a difficult thing to do for me. I’d do it even without a second thought or regrets. - or another thing I could do (if I still want to be gambling) is to reach out to the casino and ask for them to restrict the amount I can deposit and that should also do the trick.

Clearly your are mixing up"Self-Exclusion" with "self-inclusión", I believe the latter does not even exist within the terms usually applied to gambling anyways.
On whether I would go for it and exclude myself, I think I would if I reached a state in which I recognize I cannot longer control what I do with my money and continuously violate the maximum budget I have set up to gambling and betting, that is the kind of scenario anyone should apply for self-exclusion and try not to further mess up with their money on a casino.

However, once one is self-excluded from a casino, it does not mean the problem is magically solved and addiction is gone, it is just the first step towards recovery. The following would be to find help from friends and family members, people trustworthy enough for us to talk about addiction and open ourselves up to them, without being judged and belittled for what we have done to our money. 

If one only self-excludes oneself and does nothing beyond that, it will be just matter of time before opening a new account on a different casino and carry on gambling and betting recklessly.

If you concentrate on the people's matter towards casino you will lose interest for participating in casino, so therefore I believe that casino gambling is all about personal interest, for me I don't believe on stories people tender for casino, anyone that have interest should participate and also verify or know the advantages and disadvantages of gambling not only in casino, gambling itself has disadvantages and we should not look at what people says about it and make our decisions before we involve ourselves because when you look at reasons of other people I don't think that you will summon courage to participate in gambling mostly casino

Unless he had gambling problems before I do not see the point, since I do not really have too much confidence in self-exclusion measures, and that is because even if you can do that at a few casinos, there are many other casinos in which you would not do this and if you want to gamble then you will go there, so while it is nice that he is being cautious about this possibility, at the same time I find it unnecessary, as I doubt he will ever present such a behavior when he is so careful about it.

Self-exclusion from gambling is what most gamblers find hard to think of, no matter their win or loss in gambling. Many gamblers believe that each of their wins or losses to gambling is the time for them to gamble more, recover their losses, and make more money; that's why many are addicted to gambling today; they can't do away with gambling no matter what.

For the said gambler to think of having a self exclusion to gambling the moment he won big from gambling is what to emulate from by other gamblers to quit or minimize the way the gamble because gambling doesn't give but rather take from you. If you are lucky to win big, get yourself established and quit gambling

Everything on the gambling site to minimize loss or to abstain from gambling are all lies. I have gambled on many sites before and I know how practically they are all lies. The most effective way to avoid such loss is through discipline and knowing how gambling can make you lose huge amount of money.

Though such idea is good but I doubt if Such person has genuinely opted out or self excluded himself from gambling, because Gamblers can be convincing and later go back to what they rejected. His words is as regards to excluding himself from a casino near his premises but never included online, of which such person can register an online account and continue his betting and no one would know. So it would have been nice if a person win big and look for something thangible doing and stop gambling genuinely not a hypocritical kind of Gambler. In other words anyone that refuses to reduce the rate at which he or she Gambles, such person will definitely loose it all to addiction.

Yes, this is definitely true and this is really whats happening on gambling field. Lets say 99% of them would really be trying out to play once more or would be pushing their luck into their limits on which they do believe
that they might be able to pull out some another jackpots on which on the moment that you would really be thinking up this way, then you would really be that making yourself despeate and this is something which is really that bad for you in longer runs. It is really that a good step if you would really be having those kind of considerations on the time or moment that you do find yourself getting that impulsive feeling.
There's no bad thing that you have done as long it do really shows that you are trying out to avoid something specially on upcoming disaster. Dont tend to tolerate that kind of emotions on the moment that you would be feeling it out. Majority of gamblers would really be just that neglecting about on the risks involved and thats why they do messed up their lives due to bad decisions in life that they are making. If they would really be
just that mindful about on the things that they are dealing with then they wont really be coming up into this kind of ending. This is why it would really be that important that on the time that you do play gambling then you should really bej ust that playing for the sake of fun so that just in case that you are really that losing money then you wont really be finding yourself having issues in regarding into this one.

Gambling addiction is a more or less like a disease that have ravaged the gambling sector, you may like to call it and this is reason why it will always merit in discussions we have now and always on gambling, whether in casinos or other gambling games like the sport bets. I don't want to refer to it as a menace but it's something of that nature. The moment you're able to fight the addiction in gambling and attain that self-discipline from such habit, you've tackled the major issue bedeviling gamblers. Now, you can gamble healthily without having panics and heart attacks.

This is what im trying to say too on which this do turn out to be self-exclusion considering that you are really that excluding  yourself on going into these places or even on platforms or any place on which you dont really want for them to let you enter. This isnt really that inclusion on what OP is really that talking because if we do really tend to understand the whole context then it would really be clearly talks "exclusion" on this aspect.
So it would really be just that understandable that if you would really be not liking for those places to let you enter then all you do need to do is having some request or asking them and they would granting it out.
When it comes to this kind of situation then only a few could really be able to mind off about their condition specially on the time that they are really that playing gambling. Some would be aware that they are already losing that much and they've been dealing or involving with it for longer hours and make up some those unbalanced way of living then it would be impossible that you cant be able to notice it out. Just like been said by others that only a few would really be able to do such thing because we do know that not all would really be that good when it comes to self control and turned out to be blinded by greed on the time that they would be playing gambling. One of the most common problem for most gamblers is that they could be able to stop on the time that they are losing that much. This is indeed the main issue.

Self excluding oneself is not a bad thing, as it's literally a feature which helps us to gamble responsibly. So judging from this scenario about him requesting the physical casino to exclude him from coming to gamble as usual, does it mean he/she also excluded himself from online casinos too? Because with the high rate at which people gamble comfortably from the comfort of their homes through the help of internet devices (i.e smartphone & laptops), it will be very unfair and of no use if the person in question only excluded himself from just only physical casino, while he is still having access to online casinos for gambling. Hence, for self exclusion to be effective, one needs to self exclude himself from all channels.


However, in response to the topic, if I was to be in his shoe of winning big, like a million dollar or half, I will definitely take a break from gambling, but that doesn't mean I'm going to openly self exclude myself. Because the best kind of self excluded is the one done within oneself (i.e personal willingfull adjustment of character and behavior), and not what's done publicly.

You can exclude yourself from becoming addicted like them, but this question may not be relevant for for those who are gamblers.
Any gambler may need to stop gambling when they no longer see gambling as entertainment. Gambling is not for earning income that they can win regularly, meaning they should gamble to entertain themselves and not for money.

If gambling is to entertain yourself, then you don't need to exclude yourself that strictly because of course you know how to do it responsibly. But if you basically don't want to be addicted, then don't even approach gambling from day one.

The concept of self-inclusion is smart, but with enough willpower, someone can easily bypass it. If the story you mentioned is a true event, choosing to be banned from the casino on purpose is a clever way to avoid being tempted to go back in, and I would personally do it myself. It's inevitable for someone who's won the jackpot with just a dollar to not think about going back to try their luck again, a few dollars at a time. We all know how easy it is to get carried away, and losing what you've earned can happen in the blink of an eye.

It still is a relatively safe way to protect yourself, but should you want to gamble again, you'll find ways to bypass it if you're desperate.

While reading your comments above, I then realized that it can be hard for a gambler to self exclude them self from an online gambling site. Because in most casino sites, after excluding yourself from the casino you can also contact the casino to unlock your bet account through the customer care service. Meanwhile on physical casinos, since you have excluded yourself from gambling on the casino I am not sure that you can gamble on that same casino unless you visit another casino. Although few casinos that are looking forward for customers might still allow the gambler.

If the person has indeed the desire to play, he will find alternative options on how to play and where to play. Though self-inclusion is one way to prevent further addiction, but at the end of the day, it is still the person who can really discipline himself from getting out of his restrictions.
Other ways that he can do to prevent from getting addicted : allocate budget per period, once depleted - need to stop and wait for another period, look for other activities such as hobbies that will divert your attention from gambling - this will occupy your free time other than playing games.

The fact is - many of the users here are gambling addicts regardless of whether they have a severe, moderate or normal addiction. After all - most of them are participant in gambling campaign, so self-exclusion as you ask is unlikely to be done by them. As long as gambling is profitable for them - then no exclusion is expected, meaning they will continue their gambling activities.

Self-exclusion is certainly necessary if you really do not want to be involved in gambling anymore. This means that you have really wanted to forget about gambling. Self-exclusion is also necessary for those who are undergoing a gambling addiction rehabilitation process - of course this is recommended by experts.

I would never willingly put my own responsibility in the hands of others and especially wouldn’t rely on it as a way to control my behavior. This sounds like some seriously mentally weak shit right here. I don’t know why people with addictions can’t just take responsibility for their actions. Some people just want to be deadbeats. No amount of help can change them. They have to want to change.

Everybody knows what's best for them, gambling is a choice and the choices you make in gambling is in your own basic interest, so it's wise you make the best. That decision is his best since he knows he's kinda prone to over gambling if he continues going to the casino, hence putting an end to possible addiction before it even begun.

You can go extreme to protect yourself from the adverse effect of gambling if you know you're not emotionally strong to curb the excesses of gambling, it's advised that if your emotional strength is low, then don't gamble

For myself placing a ban isn't the best and I rarely, if at all visit physical casinos for some time now, I placed a ban on myself from visiting physical casinos . It's better online for me.

Wow, this is the first time I'm coming across such idea of giving yourself a ban from a casino. Well it will definitely be a good idea for someone who really wants to change and not spend too much in gambling even when the temptation seem to be much. With such practice and determination its possible he might get to a level where he no longer need a ban on himself before he can gamble responsibly. I also know of a friend whom after winning in gambling, he make a fixed  deposit to a banking institution and locks the money for a duration of time, and that has been helping him. Any strategy that works best to a gambler in trying to avoid addition or irresponsible gambling should be applied because gamble can sometimes be tricky and mess with our emotions.

This is actually very hard for some gamblers, not everyone can do it but there is an option in casino where you can just deactivate your account and you are good to go and it wouldn't open again until the said time or duration has reach before the allow you to activate back the account. If an addicted gambler is serious about his self control, he will do this ASAP and practice lowkey way so he doesn't get Called out again.

Another option I think a gambler can do about all this is to get their self occupied by many work as possible. I have not seeing a gambler that will play a game in a casino the whole day. Used your time very well and do your thing, you will become a responsible casino person unless you don't do anything and you see gambling as way of making money.

There was a time when I was almost addicted to gambling most especially on sport bets and at that point I was going all in to target the bigger amount of winning and each time I try to stake high amount so that the outcome could be Worth it, but each time, I keep losing and almost going insane.


But since is an online casinos and I see the self exclusion feature on the said casin, I just decided to get myself excluded from the casino without any space to get back, so yes I have experienced this before and it helps a lot.

I don't know what might happen in the nearest future but if it needs for me to do a self exclusion then all I am going to do is that choice. If it all it takes for me to get self excluded then I'll do that if I am too much and there's no way for me to stop. But so far, I am good and I can control myself and whenever I hit a jackpot, I am for sure going to spend that money first and won't allow the casino to take it back without me spending it first to anything that I wish to spend it to.

That's one way to get busy. All you have to do is to make yourself busy from the real world things that you do. Whether you go to the physical casino or online casino and you want to get stopped, do something for yourself and make not notice of it that you're able to skip gambling because of those activities that you do in real life.

Yes, I'm willing to do whatever it will take to keep myself from getting addicted to the game. One thing about winning big in most cases is that we might be tempted to go and try out our luck over and over again, and without self-control, the person can end up losing all that big win back to the casino again, so if leaving close to the casino scam attracts the person to visit their every day by day, the best thing to do is to either self-exclude himself from the casino or they should just relocate from that environment.

Well, I am willing to self-exclude myself from gambling if that will save me from being a gambling addict.  But as much as I can, I will not make myself to go as far as that.  As much as possible I will implement responsible gambling on my gambling activity.  It is said that prevention is better than cure so I would rather discipline myself than to be in a situation where I have to exercise self-exclusion.



If one is hooked to gambling it is quite hard to divert one attention away from gambling because of the uncontrollable urge.  I still think seeking medical help is the best way to cure addiction, if the person fails to gamble responsibly and gets addicted.

yeah, I would want to self-exclude in order to protect myself from going back to the casino and possibly getting addicted If I knew I couldn't control myself stopping to gamble all by myself. the guy on your post seems to be a responsible guy and wanted to make sure he doesn't end up addicted like his friends or his families. let's just hope he doesn't get attracted to online casinos.

This is really not necessary if you ask me. One should be able to control himself and what he does with his time and money rather than going to the extent of requesting to be banned from gambling. I know there can be some pressures or forces that seems hard to deal with but one should make effort to develop that self control because it is highly needed in life and not only in gambling. Addiction can be fought in better ways and not through these mechanical ways that are not sustainable.

Yes of course, I would do everything within my powers to get myself safe from becoming an addict which self exclusion is one of the things would do as long as it works for me not to get addicted to any kind of gambling habits because once you get addicted it becomes very hard to leave such habits.

OP what the person in the story did is the best thing anyone can do to help themselves especially when you know that people around you already got involved in what you are preventing yourself from becoming so you must do all that it takes even it takes you to get banned from all casino so you don't go there anymore it's still a good idea.

Self-exclusion works if you are not yet an addicted gambler and need "tools" to overcome the temptation to gamble in a place whenever you have the opportunity.

However, keep in mind that this alone will not prevent you from giving in to temptation, as the desire to gamble may be so great that even though you are "blocked" at the casino near your home, you may get home and open your computer to play at an online casino, spending much more time and money than if you had gone to the physical casino near your home.

In other words... self-exclusion can help a lot, but self-awareness is much more important and essential for those who want to maintain healthy gambling habits.

Sometimes it is better to allow yourself to gamble and do so consciously, than to hold back this desire and at a certain point "blow up" your bank account balance in a few hours due to a withdrawal crisis.

Yeah why not, I think this is a good idea for some and maybe they are thinking ahead of time. As I have remembered we have a thread that is something that if you win the jackpot it could be the start of the curse for you.

So in anticipation, this person decided to go to the casinos and avail of this self inclusion so in the future, he is not going to be addicted. This could be true for some online casinos as well, but there are a lot of crypto based platform, but I guess this is going to be effective in the end.

I do self exclusion all the time actually. Not to the fullest but often enough I choose to block myself from some parts of a site for 1 week for example.
Not many sites offer that unfortunately, they only let you self exclude from everything which might result in missing out on bonuses and so on because you can't login.
At stake for example you can self exclude from only the sports book or the casino for example. That way you keep your account pen basically and can still receive drops, weekly/monthly bonuses and whatever. Too bad that's very rare online.

I personally would definitely do that if I lived close to casino and had large group of close friends who also gambled, but this could also be considered an act of self-exclusion from gambling with the help of others.
Of course it can be very helpful but it still does not rule out the possibility of negligence such as excluding ourselves from casino that is close to where we live but still gamble in an online casino.
If you really want to be able to always prevent yourself from feeling the impact and becoming gambling addict, then we must be able to suppress and really take care of ourselves which starts with having good mindset.

I agree. It's possible, but not needed ;D You are always able to self-exclude yourself when needed or in a dire situation, no matter how hard it would be.

I don't want to be addicted to gambling (almost again) because that feels not right and make me lose too much money. If he asked or requested to be ban from entering the casino, that will be good because he did prevention for himself so he doesn't have to be addicted to gambling. But he can still playing gambling occasionally and always preventing from the big lose which can turn into addicted to gambling. Maybe we can hit the jackpot someday but that doesn't mean we should playing gambling too often because we will have a risks to lose more money and become addicted to gambling. You must prevents that happens to yourself especially if you know that getting addicted to gambling will ruins your life.

I see self-inclusion as running from the problem. Self-inclusion does not solve anything. There are still ways to get back, there are still plenty of other casinos, both offline and online. You cant ban yourself from every single casino and from every future casino. Instead of self-inclusion, better visit psychologist who will try to find and maybe help with desire to gamble or will give hints how to improve discipline.

I have not heard similar stories with land-based casinos in my country, but I have heard of cases when mothers wrote in the passports of their children to prevent them from applying for loans in banks and microloans.

In general, I believe that this practice takes place if a gambler realizes that he has no strength to resist the desire to play in the casino. But on the other hand, such a gambler nothing prevents you from registering at an online casino and play gambling there.

So it is quite a controversial decision.

Just calculate the expenses for a person who is addicted to gambling. Treatment by specialists will be quite expensive, depending on the severity of the disease. It also includes taking some medications, which are expensive, as well as psychological help with several sessions with a psychotherapist. In our time, curing gambling with the help of specialists is an expensive pleasure. But some people limit themselves to those who forbid themselves, by self-exclusion, to visit gambling establishments. Yes, this can be a long and painful process, but without the means, people save themselves on their own.

There's a saying that says, "When there's a will, there's a way," meaning that if you really want to gamble, you'll find a way to bypass any security measures put in place., especially with online casinos where you can simply switch to a new one. The root cause lies within us, and if we are suffering from an addiction, we should ask ourselves if we genuinely want to change, rather than simply complaining and not taking any action. No matter what measures you take to tackle going overboard, if you don't have any discipline and self-control, nothing will ever be enough.

It all matters about self choice and preference because on the time or moment that you've seen yourself on the verge of addiction and you are pretty aware of that then you would really be stopping out completely or would really be having a break on which this is really that something good because you do really know on what you are doing. Some could be able to resist and stop but there would really be those individuals who would fail on doing so and this is why we've seen that there are really people who are really that messed up their lives just because of the wrong decisions that they had made on. Actually it would really be that not so simple to make such things or actions specially on the time or moment that you do find yourself having those kind of self control issues or simply with the discipline, because on the moment that you cant be able to stop yourself on playing despite of such condition then you are really that bound on getting addicted into it. People would be normally be able to observe on what the current conditions that they are into specially when playing up gambling on which there would really be those times or moments that you are already losing too much, but despite of the condition then you are really just that ignoring those stuffs not until that it do happens that you had already lost up significant amount and this is where you would really be start on thinking that you should really be quitting up or having a break but well the damage had already been done and its not something that you could turn it back. The main issue on here is on how you would really be that to stop on the time that it is really just that starting to become that making huge loses?

I agree with you that self inclusion is not the best way for one to stay save from addiction because it is like an artificial way of staying safe from addiction. The reason why I said so is that if the casino allows you to come around, you will gamble meaning that it wasn't from your heart that you intend to stop gambling.

However, if you can discipline yourself and set rules which will enable you gamble responsible and have self control when gambling, it will do more good that self inclusion

The gambling world is simply overflowing with such stories and I can tell you funny ones that I heard from my crowd:
1) a guy lost his business in a casino and then asked the casino to close access for him.
And do you know how it ended? He bought a ticket to another country and flew there to gamble there.
2) The mother of a problem gambler tried to wean her son off gambling, but when he won the jackpot, she started playing in the casino herself. And they developed a strong addiction.
These are such sad and funny stories. And to prevent this from happening, you need to work on yourself.

If we come to the realization that we might not have a good grip of ourselves well when it comes to gamling asking to be banned from going or self -excluding ourselves can be a smart move. This is one way of staying safe from the risk of addiction especially after a big win which would act as a trigger and one's appetite to bet more. Taking such actions shows mindfulness and accountability towards our own well-being. When the urge back to the casino is known to be too strong, limiting the access is an option that will stop further problems. It's worthy now than serious outcomes in the future.

Keeping ourselves from going back to the casino also helps steer clear of a pitfall many individuals tend to fall into, that is trying to chase the feeling of triumph once more which typically ends with a large loss.

Well said mate, well not for the fact that it totally depends on the gambler himself if he really wants to be an addict, because there are some persons who just use the self exclusion option to just take a break from gambling and not that they have totally locked up their habit because even with the option of self exclusion the gambler can still decide to go back with just the twinkle of an eye and boom he is back at again with same old results and self punishment because at some point your gambling habits because q punishment to your own mind.

I see that great victory as luck, not something you can count on. As far as I keep such a view, I am positive It can help me to discipline myself and avoid dependence. The realization comes from gambling itself does not assure the win; it keeps one balanced and free from being captured by the urge to keep playing. With this realistic view, i feel there is no need to do self -inclusion, because i believe in my ability to control the encouragement.

But I do also understand how such a huge win can lure one back to the gambling den, especially with thoughts of being able to win again. This is why it's very important to always think that one is going back to the same place, and that gambling itself is a game where success cannot be foreseen or assured.

If you can consider big wins as luck, then you avoid the trap of thinking that you can repeat it consistently.

Self exclusion at casinos can actually be a very powerful tool to help people stop gambling addiction and should really be mandatory on all gambling sites. It's even better when they give super long options like 5 years instead of maxing out at shorter timeframes like 6 months. Gamblers can sometimes use sites interchangeable, especially since a lot of the functionality is the same these days, however they can also grow attach to specific features and prefer certain sites that they've grown comfortable with over time. If you prevent a gambler going to their favorite spot, you might be able to break the habit long enough or create a distraction that allows them to rethink their plans for the day.

It's indeed a powerful tool to help the gambler especially the one that is getting out of hand with his or her gambling habits. I have seen the option on many casino and I believe it has in someway helped some of the gambler who actually wants to take a break on compulsive gambling because some gamblers really don't when their actions are starting to get the best of them. Some crazy gamblers really don't know when to stop especially when they are on their stride and I have seen so many cases, they would rather continue playing without knowing that a stop at it is exactly what they need because when you are losing you can decide to play all day and still get negative results because your mind is already fucked up.

That’s just kind of funny to me, because if you really still want to be gambling, even if you don’t visit a casino house, you can still be gambling, which will be done on your mobile phone. Actually,  I really like the idea that the person is really dedicated to stopping gambling because, after hitting a jackpot, he already has enough money, so he will be able to increase and spend a high amount on gambling, which at the end might lead to addiction, which is really bad.
 
After hitting a jackpot or winning a lot of money, the best thing to do is just to stop gambling at that moment and leave with your money. If you keep on gambling, you might lose most of the money back to gambling.

I won't go to this length but I'll take some break from gambling and the next thing that I'll do is to invest the money that I won Into my other business. You can only gamble all your money when you don't have something that you are using the money to do. I'll still be gambling but I'll not be doing it to try to replicate the victory I had. If I try that, I'll lose money because it isn't going to happen. After winning, most gamblers try again to win but they don't because that's not how the universe works. Self exclusion isn't helping you because when you see the avenue to bet again, you're going to do it and it most not be in the same casinos that you use. After excluding yourself from the casino, what are you going to do about online casino that do not have the option to self exclude yourself. Training myself to not gamble more than my gambling limit is the permanent solution that will work best.

It's not strange that this kind of a thing happened.... It's not even a coincidental event; you gotta be so lucky like the only rat that escapes from a rat glue....hahahhah

I told a story once; "it was about a girl that had zero knowledge of what a FIFA ball looks like, talk more of understanding how and what the rule of the game is... But she walked in and picked a piece of paper from the trash can and ............that was it" ..!! She selected 5 draws and it was a win for her on coupon games.. people can be so lucky atimes that it may look like you've been wasting your resources all this time.

Well, if I want to brake out from gambling for some period of time, I can do it without applying the same strategy like that, I don't have to go that length in order to self exclude myself from gambling. If I actually want to take some brake from the activity, it's going to be a little difficult but I think I can manage my gambling urge when I don't want to gamble for some period of time.

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.
 
In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

No, I don't consider self-exclusion a necessary feature in my case. I can control myself and avoid gambling when I can't spend money on it. I don't feel temptated to gamble and I know when to stop. And when I make profit betting, I try to quit with profit on my pockets before it's too late. However, I consider this feature to be important for gamblers who are having a hard time managing their gambling activity, since they are commited with the effort of stopping.

Because if there isn't commitment, a gambler can just create a new account on the same platform with another informations (maybe from another person) to avoid a self-excluded account, or even move himself to another online casino where can create a fresh account. With that mindset, the feature is worthless... So it really depends on the personal motivation the addicted gambler has to stop playing for his own good.

That is so true, I can even compare it to some drinking spree, I mean you wanted to quit or minimized it, just like when you say that you just want to drink once a week, but if you have friends that go to your house and want to have some fun like 3x a week, it's hard to stay from your goal.


Yes, it could really be a big help and you have nothing to have a fall back, I mean you can't just go back again and tell that you have to lift up my self inclusion because I'm eager to play now. It has to be months or it depends on what you agree with the casino themselves.

I personally have self-excluded myself from the casino for short periods of time. Or well, I did in the past, it's been many years since I've done so anymore. I did it as a precautionary measure at first, and sometimes as a way to make sure I was going to take a cooling off period.

But if you're a degenerate gambler the bitch of it is that it won't do you any good because you'll always find a site not affected by auto-exclusion to bet on.

As i understand it, your article is an insight into the dangers of gambling from a philosophical point of view. The person, after winning big, chose to withdraw from the casino to prevent him from curbing his ability to consume alcohol. A very responsible decision and one that really shows great awareness of the risks of gambling, especially after a big win. Self-rehabilitation can, therefore, be safely and effectively conducted for those aware of the risks associated with gambling and who wish to remain in control of their gambling behavior. It reflects a high sense of personal responsibility coupled with responsible gambling behavior.

This measure may make sense in relation to physical casinos, but we understand that there are many online casinos in addition to physical casinos. I would never take such a step as self-prohibition. In my opinion, this is only appropriate for addicted players, that is, those who are already aware of their addiction and want to get rid of it. The only difference in my opinion between such a player and a healthy one is that a healthy person can control their expenses, while an addict cannot. If a person has some willpower left, then perhaps a reasonable step for him would be to switch to games with strict risk management and play just for fun for no more than 10% of his monthly income.

I like the sound of this and definitely self inclusion is a best remedy to minimize your chances of gambling and thus will be of great importance if everyone adopts this, I know it's hard but it's a good idea .

He definitely is discipline and responsible in his gambling acts and with that he tend not to go beyond his limits so as not to end up in regrets afterwards, so asking the casino to prevent him from overstepping is boundaries it's a good policy for a responsible gambler or an addicted gambler too.
If I observe myself going beyond my limits for gambling I wouldn't mind requesting the casino or betting sites or any local bet to restrict me from doing so when my budget for gambling is being used.

I think that's the word, it's self exclusion. Form what op had said, I don't think its logical though it s his choice to exclude himself from theses casino. But then you can just avoid going there. You have to learn it. Excluding yourself from the casino close to your house, what happens when you go somewhere else where there's also a casino? Will you then always go and exclude yourself? The best way to learn this is to have self control over your gambling activities. Learn how to stop after a big win.

I find it hard to believe that self-inclusion really works, as there are not former addicted people, and I dont believe that addiction can be treated by pausing it. Addiction can be treated by finding another hobby or something that will take all the time, or with doctors help. If a person decides to use self-inclusion method, it means he is already in big troubles with gambling, and self-inclusion is just postponing real treatment.

If self inclusion like you called it is what will work for a person not to be a gambling addict then let him do it, it's better to exclude yourself from something that you think is harmful to you. But you didn't have to exclude yourself from gambling inorder not to become addicted to it, if you're able to practice responsible gambling and be disciplined to stick to it then you can gamble and not be addicted. To me responsible gambling basically means to gamble with the amount that you can afford to loose and don't chase loses, to achieve this you need to have a budget for your gambling. If you don't see gambling as a get rich quick scheme then I don't think that you will worry much about hitting the jackpot because it might never happen.

Well, any gambler that wants to self exclude their self from gambling will use any strategy that works for them and the strategy that is going to be used will depend on the situation of the gambler. If a casino shop is close to their door step, you can asked the staff  not to allow you into the casino more than 1 a day.  Then if your friends are  fully into gambling,  you can restrict yourself from coming too close with them so that they will not influence you.

You can do possible ways or methods on which you could make yourself self excluded if you wanted to but actually you could really be able to do things without needing up these steps because it would really be just that enough for you to make out such action on the time or moment that you will be deciding on completely stopping.It is really just that a matter of choice and decisions on which we know that this is something
that will really be different to each other on which we know that each person will really be having their own approach on things and this is why on the time that they will really be having that kind of assumption that they could make easy money with gambling then they would really be continuing and not really be that serious with that exclusion and would really be continuing on what they are doing.

First is being willing and decisive to take those steps and finally take the steps to stop, if you are not yet willing to give it up, no matter any step you take, it's not going to work, that's why I said that the person have to be read and take the decision not go back to it no matter any circumstances.