Are you willing to go to self-inclusion?

[Kemarit]

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

[aoluain]

Is that not self-Exclusion?

Its a great idea and its easy for non addicted people and gamblers to to such a act but I suspect
it would be harder if not all together impossible for someone addicted and who are chasing
losses to pull the plug so to say and opt for total Exclusion.

Also I think this is possible in a physical establishment but more difficult to do online because the
person can just open a second account when they feel they need to get back to gambling.

[satscraper]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

No, I would not. On the contrary I kinda like  those casinos where my luck is at the most extremes, thus I visit them more than often. Regarding addiction after winning the jackpot- I think that man  has overdramatised such outcome. If he has such unbending will that allowed him to get casinos self-inclusion he could cope with his outbursts of gambling.

[Rruchi man]

Is that not self-Exclusion?

Yes, it is self-exclusion, not inclusion. OP made an error, I am sure.

Its a great idea and its easy for non addicted people and gamblers to to such a act but I suspect
it would be harder, if not all together impossible for someone addicted and who are chasing
losses to pull the plug so to say and opt for total Exclusion.

Exactly, the person from OP's story who was easily able to self-exclude themselves from casino and gambling activities is someone who has not yet become addicted, and luckily for him, he was able to win before becoming an addict. Some people become addicts first before they ever win anything substantial, and so they are unable to stop themselves from gambling afterwards.

Also I think this is possible in a physical establishment but more difficult to do online because the
person can just open a second account when they feel they need to get back to gambling.

Self-exclusion will require a lot of discipline if it must be practiced on online platforms because of the ease at which you can easily start gambling again, even on another platform.

[Zlantann]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

This gambler is worth emulating because he is wise. Many won big in casinos and ended up gambling off the fortune. He decided to be excluded because he understood himself. Maybe he doesn't have self-control and the only way to avoid becoming an addict is to avoid gambling. Some gamblers can control their gambling activities even if they win big, hence they don't need self-exclusion.

But for self-exclusion to be effective, there should be a level of discipline because casinos are many. If you are not careful, you might register in another casino and start gambling again. You might even go back to the casino and request that your account be unbanned if you are not disciplined. I will gladly go into self-exclusion if it is the ideal means of avoiding gambling addiction.      

[Oshosondy]

We know how to control ourselves than another while gambling. If I win big, I will not go on self-exclusion and I will not use the money to gamble. But for people that can not control themselves, such people can go for self-exclusion. But online gambling self-exclusion is not effective like offline self-exclusion.

Is that not self-Exclusion?

Definitely it is self-exclusion that he meant.

[iv4n]

After a big win it is wise to take a break... it often happens that after that we get into a storm (long losing streaks, risky situations with much higher bets) and lose everything, even more than we gained. It's something I rarely get to do, but that's me.

The character from the story went to the extreme, after a big win he decided to stop forever and ensure himself by requesting self-exclusion from the casino. It's a bit too much in my opinion, but generally speaking, maybe he made the right step here... at least he will enjoy spending that money on other more important stuff in his life. I doubt I would ever do that, we are all different, so we can just respect his decision... he made his choice and that's it.

[stompix]

Also I think this is possible in a physical establishment but more difficult to do online because the
person can just open a second account when they feel they need to get back to gambling.

Depends on where you live and the laws of that country.
Most self-exclusion lists are not for each casino, they are state-wide and shared by all casinos and bookies that have a license there, normally once you have asked either the authorities or an NGO who helps with that your name should be on the list of every operator there, be it a strictly online game provider or every single physical location.

In some cases it's useless, in others it's pushed to the extreme, for example in some states being on a self-exclusion list means you're not going to be able to stay at a hotel owned by MGM for example, you're not only banned for the casino but from all their locations.

You might even go back to the casino and request that your account be unbanned if you are not disciplined.    

Again, it depends on your country, some have only lifetime or yearly periods, and depending on that you might have to lawyer up to get yourself unbanned before the year ends, which is pretty normal, the self-exclusion won't be effective if you could reverse it with a click.

[Wexnident]

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No. Not that self-inclusion is bad or anything. It's just that I'm fully aware of what I'm doing and can actually control myself. Even now with me gambling, I'm able to control the amount I'm playing with, or at least comparatively better than in the past when I started. In the end self-inclusion is for people who can't stop, or feel that they can't. People who are about to turn into addicts.

Now if we're assuming that I am an addict and would willingly do so, naturally in my sound mind I would. I mean that's why I'm not an addict in the first place lol. Now if you are, you most likely are pretty impulsive when it comes to gambling and self-exclusion probably will not be enough. You'd probably need external help really.

[goldkingcoiner]

Well first of all, that is not called self-inclusion but rather self-exclusion. And for people who feel like they do not have control over themselves and their gambling habits, it is indeed a wonderful tool. Unfortunately with the amount of digital casinos, it might not work as intended, unless that person only goes to physical casinos and they have excluded him.

But I think that learning true self control and discipline is a better way to go.

But not everyone has the patience for that.

Personally, I would not self-exclude unless I felt like I did not have myself under control. Then I would.

[rodskee]

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

that is the rarest situation in gambling when you bet penny and win a jackpot.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

that shows how he love himself and not wanting to deal more in gambling.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Nope , I know my capacity andwill not need to act such thing .

[YOSHIE]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Individually, I agree with independent inclusion, as this person does, what he does can lead to social disability, This means that someone who has a negative background in gambling by understanding other people's perspectives can appreciate attitudes towards independent inclusion.

As far as I know, someone has been inclusive, in other words, the person has positioned themselves towards the behavior of other people or groups towards solving problems that occur in gambling or gambling addiction, So it is very reasonable if they no longer want to return to the casino for the reasons above, I think inclusive actions must be appreciated and respected, it is a person's right to decide to take positive and negative actions.

[danherbias07]

Yes. If I realize that I am playing way too much in gambling and cannot even control it anymore then I will put myself in self-inclusion or if it's a physical casino then I'd probably tell my wife to tell them to ban me from the premises.

We cannot be prideful when it comes to this kind of thing. If we know to ourselves that we are losing more than what we can afford to lose then maybe it's time to set things straight. Also, it could ruin our relationship with our family if we keep on spending money that is not for gambling purposes anymore.
I'd do it. But as of now, I can still think straight, and sometimes I don't play for 2 to 3 days because I just want to take a rest after a long losing streak which I think is still a good sign that we are in control.

[coin-investor]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

That's useless; if you really want to gamble, there are other places to go; for a guy who wants to gamble, if there's a will, there's a way, so even if you request the casino nearby to ban you from their premises, there are online casinos that you can turn to if you want to gamble.

Self-inclusion or control starts within oneself; even if one guy invited you to gamble, if you have control then nothing will make you gamble.

But if you think you are lucky in gambling because of beginner's luck, you will find a way, even to the point of going to another town to gamble.

[Jaycoinz]

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Well if I know myself well enough then I think the same action this person took would be exactly what I would do myself because believe me it's not easy for gambling to always wanting to think that there is always positive results at the end because whether you like it or not the results most times are directly opposite of what you are thinking and believe when you come in contact with such results then if you are strong you might break down emotional and even mentally too.

[Lucius]

That's useless; if you really want to gamble, there are other places to go; for a guy who wants to gamble, if there's a will, there's a way, so even if you request the casino nearby to ban you from their premises, there are online casinos that you can turn to if you want to gamble.
~snip~

Almost useless - unless there was some national database where your data would be entered and which would then completely prevent such people from accessing any physical or online casino. But if we go to the extent of labeling these people as addicts, then those people need help, because they will very likely try to replace the gambling ban with some other addiction.

[Quidat]

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

On the moment that you do make out such decision then it do really shows that you are really that having that self awareness or control on which it is really that good. This is why on the time
you would really be feeling out on getting addicted then its just a good step or move that you had made on making yourself self excluded or having that ban on entering casino.
Its a good gesture or step since you are wary about on the potential addiction that you would be able to encounter. This is why you should really be careful and mindful
about on the actions because if not then this would really be that resulting into such huge problem later on.

[Pandu Geddon]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

maybe I can't do that. I'm not a gambling addict who bets crazy. moreover, I play and bet online. maybe that's the most difficult factor to do self-inclusion.
the choice made to include ourselves in gambling is quite good. if you can leave gambling that makes many victims addicted, it means he is a fairly responsible gambler. he knows that when he is not limited, he can become a bad gambler.

choices like this ultimately come back to our readiness. those who manage to get the jackpot must be very happy. but for gamblers who have been playing for a long time, the feeling of wanting to win the jackpot again will continue to exist. and that is a real temptation for every gambler.

[m2017]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

If I won the jackpot, would I agree to go for self-inclusion? I think so. Not because of the fear of becoming addicted to gambling, but because of statistical calculations: the longer you gamble, the higher the chances of losing (RTP below 95%). Therefore, if you managed to win from the very beginning, then this is a great success, after which it is better to stop gambling, otherwise you can lose the amount of the winnings, and then even more. Also, a jackpot won once will create the illusion that you will be lucky again, and this will also have a detrimental effect on the contents of your wallet, because you will want to repeat the success. But this is practically impossible, because even once, big wins happen only to lucky people.

[aioc]

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Very few new gamblers think that way. All I know is that when a new gambler wins a huge jackpot, they will always want to repeat the process because they think they have the knack for it. What a new gambler should be afraid of is becoming addicted, so no, there is no need for self-inclusion, only self-control over how he gambles.

He can still play but should be fully aware of the scourge of beginner's luck. It's up to him how he will behave in gambling, but it's not good for him that he will deprive himself of the pleasure of playing, especially if he started with a good experience.