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World fundamentals are that criminals run the world and rule the world.
Nobody can't reach high level on goverment If she or he not criminal in mind to steal lia cheat scam.
World stands on honest people efforts and work labour. Goverments respect criminals If you are ready to scam and do bad things world society respect you specially the goverment officials every criminal will become good political person one day and If they don't it means there not enough criminal mindset.

I don't think it is completely about someone having a criminal mindset, but rather it is a matter of ambition and seeking to lead others and reach a higher status. See, in the world there are people who become criminals and they do not have a political career whatsoever, neither are trying to get one.
Not all criminals are suited to be politicians, though, I could agree with you there are people who reach politics and get corrupted into turning into criminals, it just takes a look to what is going on with the major of New York City. Was he always a crook? probably not, he became one? It seems so.

Ambition turns into criminality.

The situation you described above is what I have witnessed several times in my country's politics. That is the reason I have given up in my country's politics and politicians that any good thing cannot come from them.

I have seen moderately honest people in the society who turned criminals, liars and looters immediately they join politics and become leaders. I think they all belong to a certain occult where they swear not to be honest and kind today people they rule. This is the reason I have given up on politics in my country.

Politics seems to corrupt almost every person who becomes a politician. What came first though, the chicken or the egg? Were they criminals before or after they became a serving politician. They are all liars who only have interests in using their position to like their own pockets. I do not trust any of them, I am yet to see a good, honest politician.

Yes, but Leadership is something that has to do with high standards of responsible people, politics is one thing that has shoot people to a different levels in the government system around the globe, it has favoured many and disfavored many.
There are leaders who are criminals but they disguised themselves as Angels but in there they are the real armed robbers, assassins, all what they do is master minds evil.
How ever, the very good ones are among them doing the right thing at all times. As a person always chose the positive sides of reality, be a saint at all times and the people will voice you to be there leader .

Simply because human nature is greedy and politicians are human too, they are not robots. We don't trust politicians and find them disgusting because they are using and spending our money. But I believe that if you and I become politicians, we will do the same things as them, we will be greedy, selfish and neglect the people. People are like that, when they have money and power, they want more and more, and from there they gradually lose themselves.

Who among us does not want to make a lot of money and become rich? Who among us does not want to have power and command others? As long as we have these ambitions, we are no different from politicians.

The only way to make a broken system work is by breaking the rules. Unfortunately this is not a solution since it still means the system is broken.

If this is accepted in the context of my country Bangladesh, then I will say it is definitely right.  All the political leaders in our country are corrupt. Political leaders in my country basically harbor criminals and organize various criminal activities through them.  Basically criminals in our country grow up under political umbrella and under the umbrella of law they get involved in any kind of criminal activities.

There are very few politicians who have the intention to serve the people. Those with good motives are frustrated by the corrupt system. Politics is no longer service-oriented but focused on looting from the government treasury. In my country, elections are won not by political manifestos but by how much you can afford to buy votes and bribe the electoral commission. This has allowed criminals to buy political positions.

Religious and cultural leaders are not helping matters because they support these criminals for selfish reasons.

I have lost confidence in our political system, so I don't give a damn about the process. All I want is to keep seeking better economic chances which could help me live a financially free life. Discussing or complaining about politicians is a waste of time.

This is a sad truth, most of the successful politicians aren't successful because of their political careers but because of the money that they've embezzled from their people. While there are still trustworthy and reputable politicians that are there to actually serve their people, there are more of those that are unwilling and are only running for public post for their personal interest. I think in most of the world events and news about politics, this has become a norm to most discussions. Even if we don't want to admit that it is, this is the sad truth that most of the countries that deals with it.

I've watched a video in Japan that former yakuza bosses and members are running for public posts and they're not hiding their ugly past. The past that they've been involved with several illegalities for them to survive but they're proving their worth to be changed people and are for the heart of serving people. I don't know the whole intent there because it's from there and it's a glorified country when its come to their people. But as much as I want to assure is that most of the countries do have these types of politicians that are there to serve their pockets and not people.

these are the ills of the society we live in today, that's why a lot of persons have been calling for strong institutions so we can help fight this crime and criminals in our society especially in high places, because once we begin to treat them with kid gloves, they become emboldened and a menace to the society, that's why sometimes i like the Chinese system of governance, though it is driven by communism but they have stringent rules they follow, in fact if your in a public office and your involved in official corruption, the penalty is a capital punishment. in doing so, you will see crime and criminality reduce drastically.

It will be very hard to see a particular politician who is corrupt free, and the most annoying part is that if you actually find someone who is not that corrupt in politics, the moment he or she gets In touch with power they automatically become corrupt minded, could this be that there's an secret oath which they have to take when they've sworned into office?  In my country side, The very politician who has his people in mind, immediately they get into power they will changed.

Totally true. If you remain loyal to your principles and values, it's just a matter of time until the group cut you from the position you execute inside it. Groups (especially the ones which have power and influence) don't want anyone charging them and pointing out their contradictions. If they can't control you and have you as a blind serf, you aren't useful for them anymore.

Then you are considered a traitor and a defamation campaign is launched against you, so every other members are protected from your "bad influence", protecting the existence of the group as well.

Not only I saw it for real, as I also felt it on my skin. The speech of politicians is inspiring and passionate, but the practices are disgusting. Stay away from these people, and it's a valid advice for every political groups, doesn't matter if they are left or right wing parties. All of them are full of contradictions and manipulative strategies.

It may not be entirely true that all political leaders has the mind to steal, though is very unfortunate that because of the countries most people come from and how there political leaders have been deceitful and unable to provide the things they had promised during there campaigns and I have also witnessed it myself in my country that those who have a good intention for the country is deprived of there right to lead because some other politicians will be feeling that the moment such person resume that office everything they normally benefited from will be cut off, that's why we keep having the political leaders whose there interest is to steal but I cannot say that they are the same because there is always some that wants a positive change to the people.

This does not work that way even when the word has proclaimed it that those that are in the government seat are mostly criminals and doing the work of their godfathers that brought them to that seat. The government is a parastatal that consist of both the good and the bad eggs and you tend to decide which side you want to be on in order to be something relevant to those that control you and not to those that voted you in. A lot of criminals activities are going on within the government but only few countries are able to tackle it to the bare minimum. So the most corrupt countries are still facing those challenges and will continue to be termed criminal government until a solution is found to it.

I really thought that it's just words until I reached the jail. There strict rules in jail like in ancient times. You will be programmed here with criminal idea. And if you make mistake the punishment is death. I am sitting in jail and I am sure that its true.

I see no other option aside than breaking the rules, "If you can't beat them then join them" if you don't then you fail and failing will automatically transfer power to any one who is willing to commit into corrupt agender.

In a sense, a leader with a good motive for the people will have to go extra mile just to advocate for his people and this means playing the player at his own trap. Politics is dirty, very difficult to see any candidate who doesn't play same games emerge as the winner, to go up there admitting to corrupt agender isn't to be condemned. Break the rules, emerge the winner, admit to your wrong and try as much to change the system.

Years ago I worked with a company associate who had a cousin living in the lower part of Mexico... the Campeche area, I believe. The government was formally Mexican, but it was really the drug war lords that ran the whole thing.

According the the cousin, as long as you remained peaceful, the area was one of the best, safest, most productive areas of Mexico... and maybe safer than most US areas. The point is, which criminal does America want? The one that produces a strong country? Or the one who tears the country down? Isn't this the same for most countries?

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Many leaders you see today were not criminals before they got to that level; it's the power that they have in their hands that turns them to be criminals. Many of them have the ambition to be good if they get there, but after reaching there and seeing how things are done to be at the higher level, it's the power that they have in their hands that turns them to be criminals. Many of them have the ambition to be good if they get there, but after reaching there and seeing how things are done to be at the higher level, that is why some of them are getting adopted to that criminal act. Although I can’t deny the fact that some of them are going there with the criminality mindset, you can’t generalise it to all of them. 

The politics of today is like a syndicate group staged for power and if anyone wants to get into the politics of the day to man any public office he/she has to become like them either by choice or force. In my country these politicians steal the common wealth with impunity and many of them are lot more powerful as individuals than the public institutions in the country like the courts, police etc. 

And it's no New York City thing alone it's in all part's of the world, a wildfire. A lot of people who criticizes the government and politicians about the corrupt practices are only doing so just to pave their way to the top and when they eventually gets to the top they get worse that those they previously criticized.

You don't need to be a criminal or criminal minded before going into politics, infact some people go into politics with genuine desires to serve the people. But what you'll have to understand is that politics corrupts politicians, so despite any level of intergrity that an aspiring politician has, when they enter it's very difficult not to be corrupted. I believe that if you want to be a honest politician, the corrupt ones will do everything possible to make you to join them or they'll do everything possible to frustrate your efforts. So the unwritten slogan will be if you can't beat them you join them, meaning that it's not easy to be in politics and remain honest. Despite the fact that there are more criminal minded politicians, I still believe that there are a few incorruptible ones among them.

What does it mean to be criminally minded? Note that Congress and the Biden administration are causing the deaths of millions of people around the world by financing other countries in their wars. And the banks are behind a lot of it. Isn't this something that we would call criminally minded? Especially since they are doing it for profit?

To avoid being criminally minded, doesn't one need to have some sort of basics to follow, like DO NO HARM to anyone? Some of the basic best principles are laid out in the Ten Commandments in the Bible. Anybody who does differently than the Ten is somebody who is criminally minded, right?

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It’s true that even politicians with good intentions can be pressured into corruption if they want to keep advancing in their careers. Those who become politicians in the first place are usually ambitious individuals, driven by a desire to make an impact on the world. While ambition itself isn’t a bad thing, I think it's also what makes them more vulnerable to corruption.

^^^ Forceful, successful politicians are almost all ambitious narcissists. They have to be psychotic like this to advance to the positions as leaders that they obtain. If they happen to be unrighteous at the same time, their narcissism becomes evil wickedness. It's natural for them to lie to the people to maintain their position.

We need to stop listening to the so-called leader, and do our own thinking instead.

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it's not about the individual but the system that's  already corrupt and doesn't favour one that's not ready to be in alignment with the faulty system.  It's deficult to have a free and fair election to start with and even when your intention is to contest without putting your hands in a bad thing, you certainly will loose the election to your opposition that is ready to kill and right the election is just so he can get into the position of authority. That you're even contesting in an election means that your life is at the risk of being taken if you're not guided and it's visible even in this coming USA election when trump almost got assassinated before the election day.

If you even manage to win, you get yourself involved in a system that's filled with lies and stealing and the only way to survive is to join them in that kind of way because failure to do that will be that you're risking being killed by fellow political criminals.

It's the reason why people view politics as a dirt game because for you to actively get involved in active politics, you must in one way or the other get involved in a show of some dirty act.

Sometimes it is not always the fault of the politicians, the masses contribute alot to all these lies and deceit said and done to them. Politicians are like psychologists, they study the people to know what they like to hear because they know that the masses do not like truth. These politicians end up giving the people lots of promises they cannot keep.

These politicians are using the weaknesses of the people against them. When the people accept bribes from these politicians or fail to drum support for the right persons due to some tribal, ethnic or political sentiments, they are selling out themselves to these politicians to use them the way it please these politicians. At the end, the sole blame will always go to these politicians while the people forget or ignore the role they played in putting criminals in charge of their welfare.

If we have a clean society, these politicians will be somehow conscious of their actions because they know they are or will be leading people who don't allow nonsense.

I agree with you, I have yet to see a good politician, they are all corrupt. I'm curious why politicians will act as if the youths are the ones destroying the nation, when the criminal acts began, they were the main criminals of the country. They were not criminals before the election, but they turned criminals and failed to keep their word after the election. All politicians' goal is to get to the post to steal in their pocket, they don't care about the people whom they promise to provide with good electricity. I avoid politics because I understand that what they want is to benefit themselves.

However, some of them may claim that their purpose was not to steal after getting the position they wanted, but the party that supported them throughout their struggle wanted them to steal, or they were going to lose what they wanted. If a politician is forced to engage in corruption, why can't they use the money they stole to keep their promises to the people? To be honest, those people are only fooling the youth to gain what they want in their pockets.

They actually exist but to be honest, they are just few.

Politics already is what we believe to be a dirty game and you don't expect someone with clean hands to play it. Let be honest with ourselves, the citizens turn the politicians to who they are today. If you see a honest politician, you would probably not vote for him simply because he's truthful. People normally throw their support behind a politician with the strongest lies and the politicians are now aware that the more lies you tell, the higher your chance to win. It's the society that turn some of them to liers but for criminality, it's their own mindset knowing that the law has no effect on them. By the way, politics is all about interest and you will also do the same to protect that interest if you are giving the opportunity.

People use politics as a tool to earn money dishonestly.  Especially in third world countries.  I will not exclude developed or underdeveloped or least developed countries from this list.  People become restless for politics because money can be earned through politics.  There are very few leaders who work for the people for the country.

While it's a popular norm that political offices are acclimatized with criminality, I choose to believe that not everyone there is a criminal or a thief. They might have, at some point, made decisions that citizens cannot understand, but I choose to believe that somebody is different.

Because we've seen the likes of Nelson Mandela, who went forward and tried to make a positive impact in their offices with their leadership positions. A lot of political people indeed like to criminalize their offices, even use youth to their advantage during elections, bribe their way through systems, and cheat citizens.

But some people are trying genuinely. Maybe they might not be in the highest leadership offices, but they are trying to see that they make an impact and that they are different. So, instead of continuing to call them liars and criminals, maybe we should exercise our civic rights more and try to vote for the leader we believe can try and listen to people.

Of course this is true by design. The government itself is morally corrupt from the very foundation. The main idea of modern government is to force people to purchase services they have no interest in. The main service of government has become Social Security. This is a service by which people's money is taken away without their permission and then given back many decades later. It is less than worthless overall. However, by claiming that people are too stupid to do anything without super-parents we call the government, people change their mind about putting government in prison and instead support the effort them selves and vote for people who support this brazen theft.

Taxation meets the official definition of theft (taking people's property without their permission), extortion (threatening people with kidnapping if they don't cooperate), and slavery (working for the government without any pay at all). Naturally, one would have to be a criminal to support such highly immoral activities.

We NEED a dramatically different government where everyone has equal rights. (Something like this: https://bitbucket.org/metanexom/rainbow-road/downloads/Caroasi_2024Jul.pdf)

The reason behind this is because most people see politics as a means of enriching themselves and their family, and there is no way that can happen if you don't steal public funds. Therefore, all politicians will definitely turn into looters who loot with pen and paper and not with guns. The moment you are a good person and have the interest of the country at hand, you will see that the other politicians that you are working with, will brainwash you not to think of the people but only yourself so that it can be easy for them to manipulate you into stealing with them, and to keep the secrete that they are stealing public funds. If you have known all their secretes and you still don't want to join their criminal caucus, you will either be killed or a big allegation will be put-on you, so that they can kick you out of power.

The more appropriate word should be "dirty," not "criminal." The older I get, the more I realize that no job is truly "clean." Even medical doctors receive money from pharmaceutical companies. In politics, you deal with all kinds of people, so there's a high chance you'll become dirty --or should I say corrupt-- at some point. There are no completely clean leaders, but some are cleaner than others, while some are so dirty that they end up being prosecuted and become criminals. I don't think that the system is corrupt though, it isn't the system's fault but the human (the actor) that becomes corrupt.

There's not many clean politicians simply because they get offers all the time and many of these are extremely tempting.

Imagine that you hold some power and you start getting deals. You say this or that in public and they'll pay you. Then they want more, you sign this, make someone meet up with them, make someone vote this or that way... Eventually you begin to explain it to yourself that it's just one signature, nobody will get hurt.

^^^ But if you don't accept a deal, they will threaten your life to get you to accept the deal. But if you still don't accept the deal, you are dead - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5512644.0.

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People tend to start the political journey with a sense of humor and genuineness. But along the line things always don’t go as plan. They who are ahead of you will make it clear that if you don’t believe to their cartel you won’t succeed as a politician.
Those who decides to take the bold step ends up as criminals. Because you have to steal to fund their so call godfather and also set aside investments for their children. They’re there to make money and not meeting the requirements of being elected as a leader.

Generally in the matrix, you need to cheat, scheme, deceive, conform, support top dwellers, etc, to win or rank up, while pretending to be good. The winners are usually those who stick to the agenda of the system, as the system will move its resource in their favour. While the other parts of the resource is used against those who work against the system. It's not a good idea to be in the system if you want to work against it. Better to be decentralized/independent and moral

Remember that goverments are outcome of the group of people who got wealth and money too much and now they needed laws and rules to use their wealth and assets.
The wealth goes to group of people who was active in times of no laws....then they organised political groups to serve their needs the goverments are started by active and most dominant people who often was the carribian pirates and looters.
In otherwords when there was no laws no rules no goverments then people organised together and took it with power crime is fundamental of our goverments.
Goverment are natural couse for group of people who got a lot wealth the bigger the wealth they had the bigger and stronger goverment they established.

I strongly believe in you , to be a political leader you most be a criminal not even a criminal alone but also a good lier because since I attain the age of Maturity, what have seen and experienced with all this our political leaders is lie and by using propaganda words just to convince the people and be successful in attaining their position as a leader to the people. Because even a good hearted person who doesn't have the mindset of criminal when they have such opportunity to contest they all drown in that occasion of political criminality and fail there people.

You see this is not broad enough friend, because it is not only the rich who want to maintain their wealth by inserting themselves or ideas to make them profitable in politics, the most basic thing in politics is to bring interests, personal interests, groups or ideologies, so they need power to make it bigger and that's where they fight in the political space because power is an entrance to control.

Talking about being a criminal or not in politics to get victory, this depends on the interests and being victorious in politics does not care about wrong and right to be able to win it and be on top, therefore we can see how leaders are good at using their masks so that you will doubt whether they are good or evil.

Honest persons are not trying to enter politics these days. Because those who come there are already associated with corruption or come to politics with the thought that they will become corrupt in the future. A prerequisite for being a political leader is the extent to which he is involved in satanic activities. They are the first in all cases of lying and deception.

If those who will control the country are criminals themselves and take responsibility for running the country, then their eagerness to catch criminals is only showing people. They act according to their purpose to transform the common people by showing them as good people. If a good person wants to enter politics, he may be able to do politics for a few days but in the long run he will lose his position or he may have to give his life in the hands of terrorists. If criminals are banned from politics then maybe good people will be brought to this platform otherwise no country can come to orderly position.