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Title: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 11:31:29 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 11:36:36 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mv1986 on October 21, 2024, 11:38:39 PM
The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Churchillvv on October 21, 2024, 11:40:21 PM
For some of this streamers they gamble on re accounts while some gambles in fane account just as in everything there are realistic people and fake people, from experience some don't take gambling outside their streaming time once they are done with the streaming they are so disciplined to a good extent that they do not put themselves into addiction while streaming, at the same time it pushes some to keep gambling and hence promote addiction just as you suspected.

Every thing has both positive and negative impacts or effects on us so if gambling is morally unacceptable the minors are being exposed to dangers if only they are allowed on social media at those young ages.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Davidvictorson on October 21, 2024, 11:40:40 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
In my estimation, these social media influencers are following the trend. They know that gambling streaming is getting a lot of attention and because they want to remain the center of attention or risk being forgotten, they have to do it even when it is obvious that they have no idea what they are doing or that everything is fake. It is easy to notice those professional streamers and the ones who are faking it.

Well, in my country, this is not catching on just yet. Maybe soon enough but I doubt. What most of those social media influencers are focused on in my country are sports betting. They promote their affiliate under every of their viral posts.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Parents must begin to take responsibility and control what their kids can and cannot watch on the internet. That is the only way to save the minors who are exposed to this.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 21, 2024, 11:44:09 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
We discussed about this recently like 2 days ago. Have you not think of it that they win than lose? That alone can not make me believe streamers.

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
YouTube should be blamed because any age below 18 should not be able to see such contents. I think that is how it should be but I am not surenif Google takes that seriously.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Stablexcoin on October 21, 2024, 11:53:43 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

If this is true then the Casino platform has a hand in it. It could be a testnet given to the promoters and at the end of the day they will get paid but the casino. When it comes to possibility, it can be possible but why would a casino platform tend to do their promotion in that kind of way? If users find out it will cause a lot of distrust.

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It's not fine but what can you do about it? Most of the victims of this kind of fake promotion are probably the new folks in gambling. Since they do not have good experience and figures if something is fake or not they will easily fall for everything. These days I hardly believe any influences trying to promote some newly local casinos or any crypto.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: STT on October 21, 2024, 11:53:57 PM
It shouldn't be a teenager activity but its also true in the modern world they keep putting gambling into normal games as well in a stealth way.  That's the bigger picture and greater danger then seeing a gambling stream imo.

   When younger I used to do gambling odds in Mathematics classes as its taught with probability and later statistics all part of the course.   I recommend if you want a child not to fall into an addiction then education is the best path not ignorance or over reliance on censorship especially.  Kids will find out about gambling soon or later, ideally they are prepared with a decent brain and ability with Mathematics etc. alongside anything else that might help them with life.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: peter0425 on October 22, 2024, 01:07:53 AM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
This seems pretty obvious because they are obviously getting sponsored and the platform's number one aim is to get attention and make it seem like their  platform would be the best to use out there. With personalities sponsoring things, you should not believe it so much because the paid celebrities are just saying or doing whatever they were paid to do. If they say it is fun and profitable, it does not mean that it will actually be fun and profitable.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
We are all responsible of making our own decisions. Like I said, just because a celebrity is gambling or promoting gambling doesn't mean you should too. As per minors, it should be their parents' responsibility to make sure that they do not have access to such streams promoting gambling platforms or at least even if they do have an access to these streams, they are taught the consequences of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Sarah Azhari on October 22, 2024, 02:02:31 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
That it could be, because many gambling sites are currently trying another way to recruit new players to their platforms. By using fake accounts to representative their website is a way to attract people interested to join. The new users think that gambling sites is big flatform and have enough trust and money to pay as much as they want. This is classic way which is frequently used by new platform long time ago to get a new audience and user.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Julien_Olynpic on October 22, 2024, 02:20:00 AM
This is a common symptom that is observed in all countries experiencing serious financial difficulties. For example, we can take Nigeria, where the gaming industry is growing. People hope to earn at least something this way. Although, of course, for most people this will only mean losing money. As for casino streamers, I think that they are honest. But most likely, most are disingenuous and deceive their subscribers and viewers. They play from a test account that the casino itself provides them. They do not play with their own money and, moreover, these are test funds. The casino has the ability to draw any amount on the screen. But as a rule, it is noticeable: is the streamer playing with his own money or with fake money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Darker45 on October 22, 2024, 02:26:06 AM
This isn't a case of either-or. Surely, they're promoting fun, but what they're doing is also fueling addiction at the same time. And if I may add, many of them are paid to do it directly or indirectly. So, especially those social media personalities, what's most important to them is that they're making money out of it. Many, perhaps most, streamers are after the money they could get from streaming.

As far as the issue regarding minors are concerned, it's going to be up to the platform. I'm afraid there isn't really a way to make sure minors cannot get access to gambling streams. But I'm sure there's always a report button or other ways for users to raise to the platform certain issues. Twitch, for example, is making huge steps following user feedbacks.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 22, 2024, 02:56:44 AM
There is another purpose of those who do their own gambling to the public, and in my opinion those who do their gambling shown live have another purpose, which is to seek popularity with the many people who are currently interested in gambling, so some people take advantage of this to make a profit, with the benefits that can be obtained are from popularity and from commissions of new users who register on the site they promote by registering via the link they have provided.
I had thought that those who do their gambling live were not using real money because the amount of balance in their casino wallet was very large and also the bets they made were relatively large, but I didn't think about that because what I thought was that they had another purpose from the gambling, even though the gambling used real money but they had other purposes outside the gambling profits they were looking for.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hirose UK on October 22, 2024, 03:35:12 AM
What is certain is that when someone more often actively follows streamers and watches every live broadcast in their gambling session by showing various courage in taking risks and getting series of big wins can create condition where someone is influenced to try it.
This is kind of doctrine that involves feelings and also moods, I have seen many people talking about streamer who managed to win big and they talk about following the same way of playing and also the same game in order to get the same results too.
There will always be an impact whether it is in the majority of followers or small part who watch it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: rodskee on October 22, 2024, 04:28:26 AM
The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.
this is definitely the platform's fault

i do not care usually about streamers or celebrities endorsing something i am well aware that it can be faked and i try to lower my expectations even if i do end up trying whatever it is they are endorsing whoever they are but i also believe that the platform should have given a little more consideration to the audience of whoever they decided to sponsor

like will they get someone whose content is predominantly for kids and teenagers? ofc not they need people to relate to their ambassador and streamers who play for children will not relate to gambling plus why cater to kids when they can't even afford to play???


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oasisman on October 22, 2024, 04:33:04 AM
Online casinos in the PH are targeting Youtubers, vloggers, content creators, and even those celebrities so the words about them spreads like a wildfire and it's really effective. One of the most popular here, where I literally seen everywhere around the social media, is an online casino that doesn't have a good reputation in this community.
It's clear as day light that the purpose and goal of these casinos are both fueling addiction and enticing new gamblers to spend more which eventually turns into addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Mia Chloe on October 22, 2024, 05:17:01 AM
At first I thought it was gaming streamers on social media platforms. Anyways, gambling streamers are actually not fueling or promoting addiction. Different gamblers have their different views and approach to different things. Some gamblers may despise watching videos of people live streaming their gambling skills online while some others may enjoy it.

I actually don't believe watching streamd like that would result in addiction because addiction is an habit and habits don't just pop up from nowhere, they actually develop over time. in fact some gamblers may even take it as an opportunity to understand or develop new tactics for different casino games as well.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 22, 2024, 05:23:28 AM
My guess is that it is only a matter of time before that changes. In many countries TV programmes about gambling can only be shown in the early hours of the morning, because there are not supposed to be children there at that time. On the internet you can watch gambling streams 24/7. If we add to this the fact that they give a wrong idea of what is going on, because in one way or another they falsify it, I believe that strict regulations and bans on the sector are coming in the future.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Kelward on October 22, 2024, 06:07:15 AM
The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.
There are lots of wrong impressions on the social media, influencers, streamers are misleading ignorant people to think that gambling and crypto are easy ways to make money. Many teenagers will think that these streamers are making all their money from gambling, they'll want to emulate them and most will end up becoming addicts. Many poor people are looking for ways out of poverty, both the young and old, gambling adverts and streamers will make it to look like it's the short cut to riches. It's very important for people, especially young adults to understand about responsible gambling before coming into it because the rate of gambling addiction is unfortunately on the increase.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ricardo11 on October 22, 2024, 06:16:35 AM
At first I thought it was gaming streamers on social media platforms. Anyways, gambling streamers are actually not fueling or promoting addiction. Different gamblers have their different views and approach to different things. Some gamblers may despise watching videos of people live streaming their gambling skills online while some others may enjoy it.

I actually don't believe watching streamd like that would result in addiction because addiction is an habit and habits don't just pop up from nowhere, they actually develop over time. in fact some gamblers may even take it as an opportunity to understand or develop new tactics for different casino games as well.
I also agree with you, addiction is not something that is created only by watching streams, long term habit and internal attitude of the person creates addiction. Watching a stream of gambling games is highly unlikely to lead to direct addiction to that game.

There are many who enjoy and love watching this kind of steaming, while others prefer to avoid it because they hate it. And there are many people who see such streaming and they think that it is very easy to earn money from them and they go to try them once, and later they get addicted to those games.

So the key is to keep yourself under control while watching this kind of steaming and always maintain a sense of equilibrium and balance within yourself. We can also only enjoy streaming gambling without becoming addicted to them, so it's best not to blame steamers alone for such activities.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on October 22, 2024, 06:18:59 AM
Nobody is being forced to watch gambling streams. If somebody has an addiction that is a matter of self control and it should not be blamed on streamers. I believe Twitch has already taken some measures to prevent kids from accessing streams intended for mature audiences. You will not find gambling, hot tub, and ASMR streams being recommended so aggressively by their algorithm like it was in the past. Kick is a different story and gambling streams are prominently featured on their homepage. We might see them targeted by regulation eventually. Regulation isn’t an ideal solution because the internet is very large and you can’t entirely prevent kids from seeing bad things.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bitbollo on October 22, 2024, 06:44:08 AM
We have seen this topic and such questions many many times...

As a general rule, I would no trust anyone that has not clearly explained any potential conflict of interest.
For sure most of them are just advertising directly a service or their referral code...
The real problem arise when they are gambling with fake money (demo or bonus) and people watching are not aware of this...
They are showing a pointless promotion more similar to scam then any other promotion. Plus this Is not helpful at all. This can just lead people to play more and more :( since "the lucky shot Is behind the corner..."


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 22, 2024, 07:06:47 AM
No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.

Then one more thing, all the casino casino streamers online are not just for fun but they hyped the viewers to watch their live stream and encourage
them to also play gambling in the gambling casino they play at.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Yucky on October 22, 2024, 07:09:47 AM
The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Z390 on October 22, 2024, 07:46:45 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It is possible that some streamers are using fake platform that look identical to the real casino and there is no way people will know, but some stupid people will claim that it is not possible, simply because casinos use game providers, I believe they don't just get it.

It is also possible that streamers are using the real casino when gambling online, but since streamers are always making money, either from their viewers or from YouTube service they won't mind losing money, I just don't want to believe that everything is as it is.

Everyone is free to believe what they want to believe in but I think differently, streamers aren't necessary in my own case, they are too deceiving and they will increase the bar of running after jackpots.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Yatsan on October 22, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

That is very alarming to see how many streaming personalities are promoting gambling, especially when you consider most of their audience mightn't be mature enough to understand the risks involved. Whether they actually use genuine or fake accounts matters little; the thing is that gambling remains to be presented as exciting and fun while the real financial risks are not shown. If they target minor aged audiences then this is worst because these kids will really get easily convinced by their favorite celebrities to gamble without knowing the severity of this consequence.

The claim about the streamers' use of fake balances on the test accounts would not even surprise me, considering that some of them are using that as a way to make the whole gamble look more attractive and risk-free. It is just a reminder to be careful about what we see online and to know that everything, in most cases, is staged for entertainment or promotional purposes. What's more worrying is that it lacks such regulation, especially in places where gambling is limited or aggressively marketed. Perhaps paying more heed to how it impacts the youth viewers could facilitate any need for better guidelines.

The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.

Yes, the internet is a free space and people have the liberty to post what they want. That being said, even if there are age restrictions, it's hard to be fully protective of the other minors from exposure to content that could lead them into unhealthy habits such as gambling. Indeed, parents bear a great responsibility in guiding their children. However, reality dictates that not all parents watch their children closely enough when it comes to online matters.

While I concur with the argument that streaming would not necessarily encourage people to just keep on gambling mindlessly, the problem is that streams of gambling only make it look effortlessly exciting and fun, showing no real danger. Even if they don't tell you to "Keep playing until you're in debt," the frequent winning or the greatness of a lot of wagering makes viewers, especially the younger ones or those already hooked on risky behavior, feel that way subliminally. With it comes the risk of being addictive for some, and when they're gambling and winning big on streams, it makes people really think they can do the same, whereas the odds are against them. Of course, content creators should be more open to the risks involved in gambling and remind their viewers to gamble responsibly in a very genuine way, especially because of the influence on the audience-thenever intentional, always real.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: BABY SHOES on October 22, 2024, 08:12:20 AM
Their streamers promote the casino, they are required to have fun and cheer in their streams to attract more fans... If this is the case, it will certainly trigger addiction.

Actually, what I know is like that where streamers try to do something more passionate so that more people are interested... sometimes I also see streamer reruns on X that are so excited so that many audiences are interested.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mammusu on October 22, 2024, 08:18:02 AM
No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.

Then one more thing, all the casino casino streamers online are not just for fun but they hyped the viewers to watch their live stream and encourage
them to also play gambling in the gambling casino they play at.
In this case I completely agree with you, because after all streamers know that gambling is something very risky and they don't want to use personal money to promote a site, I think gambling sites that really want to use streamers will of course pay a certain amount of money as a form of promotional payment, as well as providing the balance that the streamer uses to play,  In addition, sometimes the promoted site has set up the streamer account to be able to get winnings so that it creates an attraction for those who watch it to play on the site, currently the development of social and digital media is developing very rapidly so that the use of streamers is part of the casino marketing strategy in attracting gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 22, 2024, 08:20:02 AM
They can using fake accounts if gambling is prohibit in their country so they can still promote the gambling games. But they can also use any account and use fake balance to attract more audience to watch their video and visit the site. You need to asks to that streamers to know for more but they will not tells the truth because that can affect to their channel views.

Even if they say that they use a testnet account with fake balance, we don't know for sure. It is a job from the audience or followers to be wise when they watch the video and not affect to what the streamers do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Tungbulu on October 22, 2024, 08:35:23 AM
If I’m asked this question a hundred times, my answer would just be the same, which that they’re indirectly fueling addiction. They’re making the public and their followers believe and see the possibility of earning through gambling, thereby passing across the wrong message about gambling. I know we’ve said this more than a million times within the gambling discussion session and I’ll still say it again, Gambling is meant to be solely a fun activity and not some place people decide to go and plant the little money in their pocket with hopes of reaping a bountiful harvest. That’s nothing but a dilution and these celebrities who practice this act are helping to spread this misconception across those who have access to their contents (including minors) which is very bad.

If a celebrity wishes to gamble, no one is stopping them but doing it publicly is something that should be frowned upon, I know they are only indulging in those activities simply to create contents and attract people to their pages or channels in order to generate some revenue but fail to realize this could be detrimental to the viewers. 


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: viljy on October 22, 2024, 08:36:04 AM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Tungbulu on October 22, 2024, 08:46:42 AM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.
I think in a world full of excitement, people have become selfish and self centered that they care only about their personal interests and not about how their actions affect the next person. From the casinos who knows too well that such method promotion could pass the wrong message about gambling to the general public who barely knows a thing about gambling (including the minors) and then to the influencers, who being fully much aware that their contents would pass the wrong message to people that gambling is a bed of roses.  And then down to the government and the authorities who allow such an act to roam freely. It’s just so disheartening.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Frankolala on October 22, 2024, 08:50:21 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
From what you said that these influencers don't gamble, but have to involve themselves in gambling activities to the point of streaming it live,  shows that they are using fake accounts and they are doing this based on their own selfish interest. If gambling is easy the way they put it to people on social media, why are they using fake accounts instead of real accounts.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
People are dumb to believe most things they see on social media, and some of their followers will definitely fall for them and start gambling believing that it is easy to make profit from gambling. Infact, these people are the ones deceiving the underage, lazy and greedy ones into gambling and fuel addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Betwrong on October 22, 2024, 08:51:28 AM
I think it's both, they are promoting fun and fueling addiction, it depends on what kind of gamblers you are referring to. Most gamblers, as it is very well known, gamble for fun, and for them watching gambling streamers is a nice experience, as it is for me for example. Gambling addicts, on the other hand, might dive deeper into their addiction after watching a gambling streamer, but the thing is that they would dive deeper into it anyway, with gambling streamers or without them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Raflesia on October 22, 2024, 09:00:29 AM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
gambling advertisements that are widely spread in the form of photos or videos in my opinion are not wrong because this is a business that is indeed developed by its owner, and the name of the business will certainly be developed to become bigger by one of them making photos or videos then distributed online by utilizing social media and the internet, this is a natural thing. Given this, I actually think this still leads to pleasure, with casinos that provide many games to find pleasure but of course it is not free to be able to get pleasure in gambling and with that profit I think it should not be a priority, besides that players who are addicted are their own problem because the casino does not force anyone to gamble excessively.

With streamers who carry out their gambling activities via live streaming or video reenactments, in my opinion, it is also a natural thing because online gambling is currently popular everywhere, especially if gambling is allowed in their country, then it is not a problem. With small children or children who are still minors, they may be familiar with the internet and social media, but this is more directed at parental supervision in my opinion.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Apocollapse on October 22, 2024, 09:03:12 AM
No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.
I kinda agree with your opinion even though I have no proof.

There are 2 reasons why I think streamers not want to stream gambling if they're not getting paid:
1. The games aren't really exciting to play.
2. Many people don't like someone who promote gambling.

Being a streamer isn't easy, it will drain your soul since you're forced to be active, which make you can't enjoy to gamble. For the second one, you will not get much traffic because there are more people who hate gambling than who not.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EluguHcman on October 22, 2024, 09:10:07 AM
I can bet that those online gambling streamers are not gamblers but common influencers so, they takes it upon the media with their falsely illustrations on how to play and win hoping that the audience would be attracted to the gambling sites just with the fact that their role model (s) is also partaking in the activity.

If must believe any of those streamers to be realistic with their media speculations, then it must be real known gamblers as Drake whom we know of being a bettor and not one of those who we never have heard of their gambling histories if not just coming to the media to hype a particular casino just to lure their audience.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fiatless on October 22, 2024, 09:34:52 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Social media is filled with fake people who are out to deceive. This is the reason you should never trust or be influenced by anything you view in these platforms. I pity people who believe all they see on social media because they will end up facing negative consequences. These influencers are out there to make money and not to help.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Children shouldn't be allowed to have access to phones or other gadgets without parental guidance. Minors are more prone to gambling addiction because they might not be able to discern what is wrong and also set boundaries. The activities of these streamers will harm these children and some of them might become addicts.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 22, 2024, 10:30:56 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
It's possible. Try to compare your gaming experience with them. Most of what I experience is a losing streak in the popular online casino in our country so they might advertise them in a different way and they are linked with the online casino itself. I would not believe whatever they show or say if I were you.

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Nom it's not fine especially if they are sharing it on social media. My feed now in my social media account is filled with gambling advertisements and I am starting to get irritated about it. So many names but they will all just take your money without a good fighting chance. Worst, many kids are now using social media for their group messaging and their link to their teachers so they can contact them and vice versa so I bet they will also bump into these streamers and gambling ads even if they don't mean it.
I think there should be another platform on where they can only post those streams, something like kick.com or wherever it's safer that only legal age can see.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: retreat on October 22, 2024, 10:50:08 AM
There is nothing wrong with these streamers, they just broadcast their gambling activities and the audience is entertained by what they do on their streams. Regarding the potential for addiction that can arise when watching the stream, it is the sole responsibility of the individual watching, not the streamer. However, we cannot deny the fact that there are some streamers who do not care about the age of their viewers and that is what I think is a more serious problem because children are very vulnerable to gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 22, 2024, 11:21:37 AM

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is actually the duty of those social media platform to caution their users or bring down their videos and sanction some. YouTube for example to me isn't so much keen against gambling audience who are underage but they pay much attention to videos that are x-rated and even that also is not strictly adhered to because I see videos that are really not good for children.

So, for the gambling, it hovers on the platform to do a restriction on those owners of handles to deactivate their followers who are underage and or for them to have a way to identify their age. Also, parents have follow up to do also with their children. Some parents are gamblers and they don't see anything wrong if their teenage children have access to gambling platforms.


But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?


There are possibility for that but that will not be done in isolation from the casino that they are advertising because they have to be aware for such publicity, otherwise I don't think they would do that.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: D ltr on October 22, 2024, 11:27:12 AM
In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling, maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Cantsay on October 22, 2024, 11:31:51 AM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?


Not for all of them but some uses fake account and the reason I’m saying this is because I’ve seen an influencer that made a video about it and also showed us the account and the name of the casino and all.

With the way he explained it; the site will reach out to you asking for a video of you playing game on their site and then you’ll do your normal promotion and after than they’ll pay you the agreed amount (payment before the video) and he then asked them if he could just create an account and do but they refused that they’ll be the one that will provide the account and also fund it.

In his video he show us the account and also went on to create his own account and then played the same game on both account and he didn’t even lose more than 2 times in the account that was created for him while the account he created ran out of balance.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 22, 2024, 11:49:17 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

You need to first ask yourself: What is the purpose of these streamers? The answer to that question would be: to make money. So how do they make money? By having more viewers. And why do people view their streams? Because they do extraordinary things like gambling with giant sums of money or winning an unrealistic amount of money. The only possible way to actually do something like that consistently is by faking it.

So obviously in order to get more viewers they are going to manufacture all their videos.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Cryptmuster on October 22, 2024, 11:57:12 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is quite possible that this is one of the ways to promote the casino, a kind of advertising, in which they use famous bloggers with a large audience. An account cannot be provided to a blogger for these purposes, it is provided to him so that he can shoot videos and play until he gets a big win.

I come across quite a lot of such videos on Twitter, maybe for gullible players this will be a good lure, maybe someone will believe that these are real wins, this is actually how advertising works, but it seems to me that for most experienced players it will be obvious that this is advertising.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Promocodeudo on October 22, 2024, 12:03:37 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Yea, it might be true that they are using fake account because when you see their winning sometimes it seems very unrealistic, sometimes they make it look real to the audience when they lose little and contiue winning big with those fake balance in the fake acount whatever but once one get involved with their style you get doomed, I personally see those stuffs as promotion to lure people so I think every other person should see it as it is in other not to fall for the trap of chasing loss and in the end being addicted in the process.

It isn't good at all, although for the minors i dont know how they could be restrained from viewing all those bullshit but even though  they are been monitored, what happens when we are not around them, I think this calls for much concern because this might put those minors in danger hence they don't understand the truth behind what they are seeing and also can't take decision of their own, as for matured minds viewing those falacy, I think we should be able to control ourselves when we come in contact with such things since we know the truth behind gambling, I think there should be a kind of restriction to those kind of video in the social media to avoid misleading the innocent audeince in other not to misplace priority.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: hedgeh0g on October 22, 2024, 12:05:32 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is quite possible that this is one of the ways to promote the casino, a kind of advertising, in which they use famous bloggers with a large audience. An account cannot be provided to a blogger for these purposes, it is provided to him so that he can shoot videos and play until he gets a big win.

I come across quite a lot of such videos on Twitter, maybe for gullible players this will be a good lure, maybe someone will believe that these are real wins, this is actually how advertising works, but it seems to me that for most experienced players it will be obvious that this is advertising.
The thing is how each player will personally perceive this, for example, most players will think that this is nonsense and that the streamer is just trying to attract more players through his referral link. But there will be a small part of those who will actually do this and register and maybe some of them will make huge deposits and lose their savings or income from their business. Also, those who are at home without work will be interested in this and decide that this is easy money, but will fall into a trap. I also know the story of mothers who are at home taking care of small children and suddenly they decide that they will beat other more experienced players and the casino, lol.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: fruktik on October 22, 2024, 12:12:34 PM
As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Zadicar on October 22, 2024, 12:18:03 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
One  things for sure that these streamers are really that promoting something on which they've been paid for on doing so. This is why it is really that important at least that you should be wary
that you shouldnt really be trying out to copy them on what they've been doing. If you do find yourself that being entertained on the things that they've been doing then it will really be just that
right that you should be trying out to have that self control. Dont try to copy out on what they've been doing because it will really be just that causing up that kind of desperate on which this is something
that will really be resulting into such potential problem that you might be able to encounter later on. This is why it will really be that recommended at least on what are the things that you should gonna do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jewan420 on October 22, 2024, 12:32:09 PM
As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.

Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: fruktik on October 22, 2024, 12:57:08 PM
Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.
Why does it all come down to banning everything right away? Why not find a compromise? After all, these streamers also want to eat and live well. You can't just take away people's livelihoods. Bans have never led to anything good. We should approach this issue in more detail and find a solution that will not leave either side dissatisfied. This is what is called a reasonable approach. Humans are given a brain for a reason.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: YOSHIE on October 22, 2024, 01:18:40 PM
Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Sometimes we can see how a person or company provides information, especially about the gaming and e-sports industry, sometimes the live streamer can be entertaining, providing tips and ways to win when playing games, This is indeed the most effective trick often applied by the gambling industry, which can tempt those who don't like gambling to try gambling.

Regardless of the reasons they give, what is certain is that broadcasting content using the Streamer method on social media for gambling platforms, will result in many people wanting to try and do it, It's not just an addiction, it's up to us to gamble or not, how we respond to the streamer, they only advertise, all actions are up to us.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Gheka on October 22, 2024, 01:55:11 PM
As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.

Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.
The casino platform will pay these streamers for advertising appropriately, besides, they also have accounts programmed to win to attract engagement volume, some of the rewards will come from the casino's revenue, so even if they gamble a little, it won't be able to break the huge amount of money they can receive. Morality is also very much when they remind teenagers to limit and have fun as a priority, not to get too deep into gambling, but voluntarily rushing into betting is also too much, the social part does not consider that advice, they only consider the desires that are lingering.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Franctoshi on October 22, 2024, 02:36:42 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I would say that they use fake account because for instance, there's this influencer I love whom I followed online, at some he began to advertise how he profits from casino games and the way he wins and usually show off his wins, but while following his methods, I found out that I barely win using the method. it can be said they're fueling addiction because it isn't actually easy the way they advertise it, and anything that one is doing, should understand that no one would bear responsibility of the risk, you alone,  this streamers only care for the money they make for promoting the platforms period.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 22, 2024, 03:02:52 PM
The core of the discussion is not much different from some other topics that we often find, but it doesn't matter because it's still interesting to discuss. Live broadcasts carried out by streamers or people who have followers or public figures are carried out with the aim of getting money from the agreements they make with the casino, meaning I will say that your assumption about streamers playing using fake accounts is correct, the game scenario has been arranged in such a way by the casino behind the scenes which is simple so that streamers can easily achieve significant wins and the goal is none other than to make the audience captivated and register on the promoted site.

Simply put, the more people are interested in registering, the greater the commission a streamer will get, so their goal in doing the broadcast is not to promote entertainment but to make people captivated and get commissions which of course can trigger addiction, but streamers will not care about any impact that will be experienced by the audience, the point is they do the promotion to get a lot of money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: KiaKia on October 22, 2024, 03:12:09 PM
In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling, maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing

It looks fun at first but who will take their minds off a streamed live jackpot? Anyone watching online streamers are punishing themselves, because they will not have the same results as the streamers, one thing that people don't get is we can't compare ourselves to streamers.

1. They have a lot of backers, most especially from the casinos.
2. They are always well funded, even if they lose money online while streaming the viewers will likely fund them back.
3. The stream service, aka YouTube and others are paying these people too, and they mostly have millions of viewers.

If you are a gambler and never watched any streamers gambling online you have no idea what you have done right, the fastest way to lose the mind is watching streamers hit the JP online and you having nothing even if you use the same casino as them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: l99l on October 22, 2024, 03:15:16 PM
They are working to fuel addiction. They know things about hormones very well, they know what to do for it.
The preferences of people who gamble here are important, in my opinion, they should not watch them and should not waste time in unreliable casinos.
If I were a streamer, I would definitely make a deal with a casino. :)


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Smartprofit on October 22, 2024, 03:42:39 PM
As far as I know, very often the casino pays the streamer a fixed fee in the form of a certain hourly rate.

There is also an option when the streamer receives payment for each broadcast he conducts. In such situations, the relationship between the online casino and the streamer is essentially a civil contract with a fixed payment for the services rendered.

At the same time, some streamers are excellent showmen. Their bright shows are very popular with viewers. Thus, viewers get bright emotions and good entertainment.

Streamers receive additional income from online casinos. There are situations when a streamer develops a gambling addiction and becomes a gambler. This happens especially often in situations where there is an agreement with the online casino that the streamer plays for a certain amount of money and everything that he does not lose during the game, he can then take for himself.

If the streamer is not psychologically stable enough, then in this case he may develop a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ImThour on October 22, 2024, 03:57:07 PM
They are getting paid for promoting gambling, if it was free, they would never do that. It's that they are running their own households with that money and I am sure, most of them do not even care about their fans or followers. In the end, it's just a promotion for most of them which doesn't have to be from heart. And you know what? Most of the viewers that are watching them ALREADY gamble, so not a big deal.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jaycoinz on October 22, 2024, 04:35:49 PM
We can all agree that the internet is a major influence and impact on our society especially on the youths. A lot of young people got introduced to gambling from adverts and posts from streamers on different platforms. You must understand that streamers would advertise anything that pays them it doesn't matter if it has a negative impact, they are just after the money. In my opinion I would say that they are doing more of fueling and encouraging addiction than promoting fun. A lot of teenagers idolize a lot of streamers and they would get involved in whatever they promote.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on October 22, 2024, 04:47:24 PM
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I have never been in contact with someone who has personally partnered with a casino or a bookie, so I cannot be 100% sure, though what I have heard and read is casinos giving a substantial part of the deposit of the streamer in credit for them to gamble during entire hours in the front of their computers and entertain their viewers, while at the same time advertising the casino they are gambling on.
In the topic of children and teens having access to those streams, I am the first one who will condemn anyone who is below of the age of 18-21 to have recurring access to casinos and gambling streams, for obvious reasons and it is in most part responsibility of parents to check what their kids do on the internet, providers of products and services cannot be completely guilty on the irresponsibility of adults who are not good at parenting.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Nrcewker on October 22, 2024, 04:48:00 PM
Neither the streamers nor the casinos are now worried about the underage people. All they want is money deposited in their casino. Once money is inside, no matter what strategy you use or how tactically you play, you will end up losing only. For this reason, they are paying these streamers and social media influencers a high amount to promote their casinos in an organic manner. People think that the influencers are gambling from their own money, but it’s actually dummy money credited by the casino owners, and the bets are scripted many times to add adrenaline rush in the streams. Poor audiences fall for this scam and become the victims.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Adbitco on October 22, 2024, 04:53:05 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Is there ever a fake account from original gambling site? To me I don't think that is true because take for example as stake.com they don't permits fake account and if you make account you have to pass throughout verification process, and of course they can't show fake balance to their streamers.

Except those people that are streaming make a separate site from the original site were they would have to impersonate the original site to lure people into their streaming sites and they can maneuver their balance to make it so much attractive to their followers on social media.

Then lastly, I don't think they are promoting addiction because as we already know it's our core duty to gamble responsibly, if you think they are promoting addiction then there is no need for gambling site to operate if you think so, therefore the best choice lies on the followers to gamble responsible not to get addicted while gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: aioc on October 22, 2024, 05:00:14 PM

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Yes that's true, in fact two popular vloggers, Awit gamer and Whamos was caught cheating, They are not really gamblers and just learn how to gamble because of their popularity, and the casinos pay them to promote or shill their casino through their stream, so don't believe a new popular celebrity suddenly making a lot of money from gambling.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
There was a senator who was planning to pass a law banning streamers from promoting gambling, but after creating a big buzz, we never hear from that senator. Maybe the regulator asks him to stop because if the law is passed, the government tax collection will go down too.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Su-asa on October 22, 2024, 05:04:17 PM
Gambling streamers and influencers actually fuel gambling addiction because they post unrealistic wins, in most cases they make use of demo accounts and make people believe that they are earning a lot of money from the casinos of the platform they are advertising. This is just a marketing strategy and they do it just to make money. A lot of people started gambling because they watched streams on YouTube and other platforms. I think gambling streamers shouldn't be putting out false adverts, it's misleading a lot of people and it's sad that majority of people losing money are teenagers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: hyudien on October 22, 2024, 06:18:30 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It is common knowledge not only in the Philippines, small streamers who are building their social media accounts mostly promote gambling by playing Demo games. Their goal is to attract beginners who do not understand the system played by the streamer. Then easily spread the original referral link for the benefits that have been established with the gambling site. But it's a different story with big streamers, rich influencers who use real accounts and capital when doing live streaming, of course in that capital only 10% of the income he gets from his promotional bonuses. In some countries, live streaming gambling is prohibited and if forced will get a stern warning.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: the rise on October 22, 2024, 06:24:54 PM
I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hatchy on October 22, 2024, 06:37:31 PM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's obviously promotions and yea they will equally get paid by the casino in which they are playing on. They don't actually care about whom the audience is even if it's a minor, so long they get enough streams that they wish and then are able to get paid for their promotions. I can't actually blame them for such act as they also just want to make money from their socials. Yea I've also seen a discussion here on the forum about use of fake accounts by streamers. Sometimes you see them getting a very high multiplier in the multiplier games, which makes me wonder if these are all true or just something that the casino do to boost their customers..


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: swogerino on October 22, 2024, 06:47:31 PM
I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.

The people who follow them are plain stupid, they should know very well that any sane person in the world would not go max bet with huge amount of money like all streamers do and not care much. I mean sure you can find one that is mad for real and has a lot of money but I highly doubt that all of them are doing the same, most of them are sponsored as you see in the links in their videos which spam a lot of links during the video session. Of course they are very fun to watch especially when you lose a lot of money and lose a bit of hope and you are surrounded in moment of darkness, in such moments they can brighten your mind as they can make you think that there is a chance to win big, of course as I said I don't suggest doing what they do or it is the best shortcut to poverty.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: taufik123 on October 22, 2024, 06:49:29 PM
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But it's a different story with big streamers, rich influencers who use real accounts and capital when doing live streaming, of course in that capital only 10% of the income he gets from his promotional bonuses. In some countries, live streaming gambling is prohibited and if forced will get a stern warning.
But you should also know that Big Streamers also get paid from casinos that endorse them or become their Brand Ambassadors.
The special account that is given to them with special system settings is, of course, unlike the usual account.

It will look like getting wins easily, it's just manipulation as well but with more professionalism,
not like a small streamer who does it alone without help from the casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: irsykes on October 22, 2024, 06:54:48 PM
Gambling streamers and influencers actually fuel gambling addiction because they post unrealistic wins, in most cases they make use of demo accounts and make people believe that they are earning a lot of money from the casinos of the platform they are advertising. This is just a marketing strategy and they do it just to make money. A lot of people started gambling because they watched streams on YouTube and other platforms. I think gambling streamers shouldn't be putting out false adverts, it's misleading a lot of people and it's sad that majority of people losing money are teenagers.
the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Lanatsa on October 22, 2024, 06:55:43 PM
I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.

The people who follow them are plain stupid, they should know very well that any sane person in the world would not go max bet with huge amount of money like all streamers do and not care much. I mean sure you can find one that is mad for real and has a lot of money but I highly doubt that all of them are doing the same, most of them are sponsored as you see in the links in their videos which spam a lot of links during the video session. Of course they are very fun to watch especially when you lose a lot of money and lose a bit of hope and you are surrounded in moment of darkness, in such moments they can brighten your mind as they can make you think that there is a chance to win big, of course as I said I don't suggest doing what they do or it is the best shortcut to poverty.
Actually they are really just that doing their jobs on which they are really that getting paid to promote on whatever products or services that they've been commanded into. As long they are really that getting paid
then it does matter the most. Addiction is something that will really be a certain individual would really be that getting involved into on which on the moment that it will really be having that kind of moment or possibility that you do find yourself getting hooked just because of the things that you've done or the actions youve been that doing then it isnt really that totally their mistake basing up on what you have seen.
You are the ones who would really be that responsible towards your own action and if you do find yourself getting addicted then of course it is really that your own fault.People who do really follow up these people
are indeed plain stupid but of course it will really be that depending because if you are really just that seeing  them playing and wont really be trying out to follow on how they do play then you are really just that fine.
On the moment that you are trying out to do on what they are really that been doing then this do really shows up that you are already that being addicted into it and this is something that you should really be refraining on doing so. Disasters do really start with these simple steps or actions that you are doing on which later on it will really be that gradually becoming even more severe until you would really be able to find out that
youve done too much on which regrets will really be always at the end on every actions that you do make and this is why you should really be careful on this one.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: usekevin on October 22, 2024, 07:11:15 PM


the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oilacris on October 22, 2024, 07:16:37 PM


the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
There were really those telling that it was really just that demo accounts but surprisingly there are really that those individuals who do really fall off with those
kind of tricks or being decieved that they are really that making use of real account balances on which its really that too impossible that these streamers would
really be making use of their own money just to promote something on which its really that obvious that they are funded or make use of demo accounts
but they have that trying out to argue that it was that a real balance on which it could be also possibly be funded. So they wont lose anything or simply risk free.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 22, 2024, 07:22:50 PM


the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
There were really those telling that it was really just that demo accounts but surprisingly there are really that those individuals who do really fall off with those
kind of tricks or being decieved that they are really that making use of real account balances on which its really that too impossible that these streamers would
really be making use of their own money just to promote something on which its really that obvious that they are funded or make use of demo accounts
but they have that trying out to argue that it was that a real balance on which it could be also possibly be funded. So they wont lose anything or simply risk free.

Yeah right , even if they are really using real account but the fund is also provided by the casino to attract viewers you'll see them winning and seems like they know the patterns, those who will fall for this will experience a good welcome winnings but along the way  when they're already hook up they'll start to experience the bad side of gambling, no longer as entertainment but more or less getting deep and become addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on October 22, 2024, 07:51:02 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Not only in Philippines, but I can also boldly say that even here in Nigeria, gambling platforms seems to be the highest been promoted by content creators and social media influencers, as it seems these gambling platforms offers good payment to these influencers in exchange for promotion. However, when it comes to the authenticity of the game been played during live stream if weather is it true or not, for me I will say that though some may be real, I also think others may not be real, as likely to be either a demo or configured account made for just that purpose. Hence, what's importance of for we gamblers to always strive to gamble responsibly, not minding what been displayed during live streams.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 22, 2024, 08:02:23 PM
The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.
Are you sure that the steamers are using demo account? I have watched some before but I was not patient to wait to read the comments and replies from any streamer before. Have you seen a streamer commented before that they are using demo account? If it is demo, I think that is good and if the streamers are asked, they will say it is demo.

But not necessarily a demo. All the amount we have on gambling sites are not actually money but numbers. It cost a gambling site nothing to have agreement with a streamer and give him numbers on his account which people will think is money but not money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nimogsm on October 22, 2024, 08:21:40 PM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on October 22, 2024, 08:29:03 PM
Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

One thing you should know is that these are some of the streamers strategies inorder to get  more followers and people turning up for what they are promoting, What they do is, already this promoter's are being paid for whatever thing they are to carry out so be it showing to the World that they got topnotch skills and Potentials in gambling is one strategies you should keep in mind, so they can make some fake use of placing bets and winning as well, so while promoting fun they are also fuelling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 22, 2024, 11:15:16 PM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
YouTube should be blamed because any age below 18 should not be able to see such contents. I think that is how it should be but I am not surenif Google takes that seriously.
Here in our country, famous platform is Facebook from Meta, that's why I'm worried for some personalities online that some children or minor can see their stream randomly on the feed.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Not only in Philippines, but I can also boldly say that even here in Nigeria, gambling platforms seems to be the highest been promoted by content creators and social media influencers, as it seems these gambling platforms offers good payment to these influencers in exchange for promotion. However, when it comes to the authenticity of the game been played during live stream if weather is it true or not, for me I will say that though some may be real, I also think others may not be real, as likely to be either a demo or configured account made for just that purpose. Hence, what's importance of for we gamblers to always strive to gamble responsibly, not minding what been displayed during live streams.
Jeez! That's why every time I see some content creators or any big personalities I followed before and started to promote gambling, there's just 1 tap away from unfollowing them, I don't tolerate those kinds of action.
I already seen a lot of content creators being offered to promote this gambling but I can see some of them are being denied even how huge the offer is, that's why I really admire them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: romero121 on October 22, 2024, 11:33:28 PM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bettercrypto on October 22, 2024, 11:54:34 PM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Wexnident on October 23, 2024, 02:15:10 AM
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It's because its what paying that's what, especially for small-medium level streamers. Streaming at the end of the day is a competitive business and with how the scene is already, a lot of people just can't make it as a fulltime thing. So what do they look for? Partnerships that pay more. And casinos are one of them at least. And how would casinos promote their owns better? Ofc with rigged accounts/odds. Even just setting a player account to have no balance limit is more than enough. Naturally streamers would say "No, we'd never do that ;D " but people aren't blind lol.

As for minors seeing their streams, they stream casino advertisements, I don't think they'd give a crap really. Granted at that point it's half and half between the platform and them imo.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 23, 2024, 02:30:51 AM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

Yes, that's right, I agree with you, gambling promotions are carried out by streamers on their agreement with the casino for mutual benefit, usually streamers get some payment and as a bonus they also get a commission when the number of audiences interested and registering on the promoted site is more than targeted, and the advantage for the casino is clear that they will get long-term benefits when the audience who registers becomes addicted.

As we know that the shows made by these streamers look very tempting, all the wins can be easily obtained by them and of course this scenario is very likely to make people interested, especially those who are in despair or those who are experiencing financial problems in their lives who usually don't think twice in making decisions, the biggest mistake people make is that they don't think that everything that seems too easy to get is unrealistic.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Strongkored on October 23, 2024, 02:47:22 AM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
YouTube should be blamed because any age below 18 should not be able to see such contents. I think that is how it should be but I am not surenif Google takes that seriously.
Here in our country, famous platform is Facebook from Meta, that's why I'm worried for some personalities online that some children or minor can see their stream randomly on the feed.

This is also a very popular social media platform in my country and streamers use Facebook to broadcast their gambling activities, with all the promotions and also lies such as using fun mode in slot games and I am very sure that streamers like this are targeting new gamblers who are still lay and do not know that they can play slots without real money
 
All ages can watch it and even though I am not interested in their streaming videos but I am sure many are more interested that is why they continue to do live streaming.

Maybe these streamers don't do it intentionally to fuel addiction, but we know that when we see a video of someone winning a large amount, it will attract a lot of attention and the desire to try because it is very tempting.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 23, 2024, 03:40:39 AM
You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
This is a common problem, isn't it? Now many young people are looking for ways to make money quickly, and it's not surprising that they think about gambling because some people who gamble also aim to double their money, but such a goal will only make them suffer in the future. In addition, not only young people but all levels of society do the same thing. This is terrible because it can cause them big problems. Oddly enough, streamers can win and it seems to be more common than defeat, while in reality defeat is more dominant than victory. With this right, I think some streamers work with their casinos which have the goal of reaching more people to gamble. We must be able to restrain ourselves well.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: dansus021 on October 23, 2024, 05:26:45 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I just barely said in another post that Gambling videos and streams are so unrealistic I always see people hit jackpot, especially in their streaming service

are Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? One thing for sure they do gamble and stream is just for the money I mean some platforms maybe pay a lot than other platforms regular platforms like youtube of course don't allow gambling

back to your question

* Because is good to be true that is why some people including me aswell believe that they are paid actor and of course there is something on their account.
* is it fine as long the platform give the pop up age before you can watch it


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: fruktik on October 23, 2024, 05:47:26 AM
I would say that they use fake account because for instance, there's this influencer I love whom I followed online, at some he began to advertise how he profits from casino games and the way he wins and usually show off his wins, but while following his methods, I found out that I barely win using the method. it can be said they're fueling addiction because it isn't actually easy the way they advertise it, and anything that one is doing, should understand that no one would bear responsibility of the risk, you alone,  this streamers only care for the money they make for promoting the platforms period.
A few years ago, I watched one such streamer every day. Indeed, I got some pleasure and moral satisfaction from it. Despite the fact that this person constantly said that gambling is very dangerous and will lead to loss of money. This is a good approach to business. This is the only way to warn your audience. Other bloggers do not do this and lure people to the casino with their affiliate links. How many people were left with nothing? Wow, there are a huge number of them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2024, 06:39:55 AM
Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
If those streamers think like that, they will not get more audience or follower because sooner or later, people will know that those streamers just fool their audience. People now become smart to choose what they want to watch although some new people in gambling doesn't know for sure.

We only know that they promote the casino and we thinks that they getting paid from the casino. Besides that, we don't know if their account is a demo account that already prepared by the casino to playing gambling so that can attract more attention from people to visit the casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mirakal on October 23, 2024, 07:11:45 AM
We all know that social media influencers are often used by big gambling companies because they have massive followings, and those followers could easily turn into casino players. It’s tough to imagine that these influencers know the negative impact this can have on their audience—especially the minors—yet they choose to ignore it, driven by pure greed for money.

It’s hard to accept, but there’s not much we can do to stop them unless the government steps in and takes action. As parents, though, we need to focus on guiding and educating our kids about these dangers. It’s on us to make sure they’re aware of the risks.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 23, 2024, 08:03:23 AM
Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Their audience will be those who can believe and succumb to manipulation. These are not necessarily teenagers with their immature minds. There are many adults, but they remain, naive children, who believe that you can win at gambling regularly; you just need to repeat what their idol streamers advise them. Being like him is the motto. 
People are all different, but such videos are designed for people who are not able to find real sources of information, for those who are poorly educated and also either lazy or cannot find a normal source of income. A video screaming about how people have fun gambling will most often contain another subtext designed to increase customers and the amount of money from their pockets.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bakasabo on October 23, 2024, 08:15:02 AM
Does audience even pay attention to gambling (except noticing big bets or wins)? I think during streams, they mostly chat or try to chat with streamer, and force streamer to do wild things. The goal is not to watch streamer gamble, but to make his place a ridiculous bet and lose it. Or some simply want to get noticed by streamer and get a response like «Hi» form him. Audience not really interested in gambling in general. But, such streams subconsciously make them remember gambling platform. I think its fun with a addiction elements on a long time frame.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: irsykes on October 23, 2024, 11:54:12 AM


the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
There were really those telling that it was really just that demo accounts but surprisingly there are really that those individuals who do really fall off with those
kind of tricks or being decieved that they are really that making use of real account balances on which its really that too impossible that these streamers would
really be making use of their own money just to promote something on which its really that obvious that they are funded or make use of demo accounts
but they have that trying out to argue that it was that a real balance on which it could be also possibly be funded. So they wont lose anything or simply risk free.
all site promotion accounts have been set by the company and they just have to play, without having to bother thinking about patterns. for example, every multiple slot game and good game arrangement has no doubt to attract customers. gambling site companies will always win and never lose. only our attitude is how to deal with it with a wise nature. playing moderately is better


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: freedomgo on October 23, 2024, 12:07:25 PM
Does audience even pay attention to gambling (except noticing big bets or wins)? I think during streams, they mostly chat or try to chat with streamer, and force streamer to do wild things. The goal is not to watch streamer gamble, but to make his place a ridiculous bet and lose it. Or some simply want to get noticed by streamer and get a response like «Hi» form him. Audience not really interested in gambling in general. But, such streams subconsciously make them remember gambling platform. I think its fun with a addiction elements on a long time frame.
I think this really depends on the culture of the country where the streamers are operating. If it's in the Philippines, most of the audience are gamblers, and some even ask for a cut of the win as they act like beggars online. Streamers never show they’re in the negative--they’ll always show profits. We all know the main goal of streaming is to attract gamblers to sign up using their referral link, 'cause streamers get paid to do that.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 23, 2024, 12:09:14 PM
We all know that social media influencers are often used by big gambling companies because they have massive followings, and those followers could easily turn into casino players. It’s tough to imagine that these influencers know the negative impact this can have on their audience—especially the minors—yet they choose to ignore it, driven by pure greed for money.

Driven by money as it is, there's no concern anymore though they manage to also advise that gambling is only for those on the right age but the audience that they've got are simply open and they don't have any control regarding to that, everyone can see and follow them to whatever extent that they show up especially those who are fanatics.

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It’s hard to accept, but there’s not much we can do to stop them unless the government steps in and takes action. As parents, though, we need to focus on guiding and educating our kids about these dangers. It’s on us to make sure they’re aware of the risks.

As parents or guardians we do have the big role to avoid those young minors to engage with those kinds of streams, monitor the activities of those young people and explain the whatever they needed to understand.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Taskford on October 23, 2024, 12:20:23 PM
Does audience even pay attention to gambling (except noticing big bets or wins)? I think during streams, they mostly chat or try to chat with streamer, and force streamer to do wild things. The goal is not to watch streamer gamble, but to make his place a ridiculous bet and lose it. Or some simply want to get noticed by streamer and get a response like «Hi» form him. Audience not really interested in gambling in general. But, such streams subconsciously make them remember gambling platform. I think its fun with a addiction elements on a long time frame.
I think this really depends on the culture of the country where the streamers are operating. If it's in the Philippines, most of the audience are gamblers, and some even ask for a cut of the win as they act like beggars online. Streamers never show they’re in the negative--they’ll always show profits. We all know the main goal of streaming is to attract gamblers to sign up using their referral link, 'cause streamers get paid to do that.

Low life people always ask that and its annoying to see those people commenting asking for help or get something from those streamers. They didn't realize that most of those streamers are just using them and they don't actually give what they promise to their follower. Also for sure that they would never show negative since this is bad for their stream and if they do that for sure people would not gonna listen towards everything what they say. Usually they are promoting a casino so showing negatives provably not their main thing since they cannot influence people to gamble in that cases.

Also people should stop grabbing the hype created by those streamers and they gamble in moderation. Streamers are their to hype and provably their main agenda is to fool people so that they can get something from their invites.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: GideonGono on October 23, 2024, 12:45:31 PM
For me they are only fueling addiction, cause they are only showing insane profit and making it look easy to do or win.
They are just making their viewers excited to play and try their luck, if they just want to promote fun they would only play with a small amount to enjoy the game, but instead they are playing with huge bank roll to make a big profit.
I also think that most of those streams or live video's aren't real, they might be a recorded game so they could only show the winning moments to make it look better or easy.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Questat on October 23, 2024, 02:02:15 PM
For me they are only fueling addiction, cause they are only showing insane profit and making it look easy to do or win.

Of course, their job is to attract gamblers to play on the platform, but it’s not like they intend to get people addicted. It’s up to us since we control our actions. They say gambling is supposed to be for fun, and they’re just providing us with that chance. If we don’t understand the risks and rewards, then we’re likely to get hooked, but at the end of the day, the responsibility is on us, not on the casino or the streamer.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on October 23, 2024, 02:10:33 PM
Of course, their job is to attract gamblers to play on the platform, but it’s not like they intend to get people addicted. It’s up to us since we control our actions. They say gambling is supposed to be for fun, and they’re just providing us with that chance. If we don’t understand the risks and rewards, then we’re likely to get hooked, but at the end of the day, the responsibility is on us, not on the casino or the streamer.

You are right, what makes us addicted is our own attitude towards the gambling activities we do. streamers only introduce the platform and they benefit from it. I even saw several local slot game streamers promoting that we can have fun with the game. Although there is an addition that there is a possibility that if we are lucky we can get the big multiplier offered. but whether it is proven or not, maybe only the account from the streamer has won a big multiplier several times. the reality is that we who play find it very difficult to get the big multiplier.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Wakate on October 23, 2024, 02:11:39 PM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
Many of these streamers are only promoting casinos using their referral links to attracts gamblers to use the casino they are using so they can make similar profits too. I think gamblers are now getting understanding about gambling and why their are so many streamers different social media promoting casinos and attracting gamblers to use their referral links if the want to make money from gambling. Most of the winnings are never real and it is obvious that the accounts these streamers are using are demo accounts that are enabled by casino teams and fully funded making it looks like they are real and their followers can have similar results.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: coin-investor on October 23, 2024, 02:11:56 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Its a big surprise that one of the vlogger and streamers that you have been following for many years suddenly become experts in gambling and make it appear that gambling is fun and profitable, the truth is, its impossible even a gambler who's been playing for many years cannot become an expert overnight.

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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
That's the truth; other vloggers have and are exposing them and I have seen one exposee of these vloggers turned gambling streamers, They are faking their winning their dashboard to make it realistic, but in reality they are fake, Vloggers will do everything, even to the point of deceiving their loyal followers for money

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because, for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Parents should check who are the vloggers your children are following; they may be following these streamers who are promoting gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Zadicar on October 23, 2024, 05:00:41 PM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
Many of these streamers are only promoting casinos using their referral links to attracts gamblers to use the casino they are using so they can make similar profits too. I think gamblers are now getting understanding about gambling and why their are so many streamers different social media promoting casinos and attracting gamblers to use their referral links if the want to make money from gambling. Most of the winnings are never real and it is obvious that the accounts these streamers are using are demo accounts that are enabled by casino teams and fully funded making it looks like they are real and their followers can have similar results.

Promoting casinos because they are really that being paid on doing so plus spreading up their links then it would really be a win-win situation for them. This is why these influencers are really that making some easy money not only just that because they are getting paid but also they are really that getting some ref bonuses on which this is really that making money. As for fueling addiction then this is something that will really be just that depending on a certain individual because there are those who are really that able to control themselves about dealing up with gambling and there are ones who do get easily hyped out
and ending up on having those kind of desperation on trying out to copy on what these influencers been doing.  This is why majority do really get that addicted because they've been that hyped
up with those huge wins.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jemzx00 on October 23, 2024, 05:26:55 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Its a big surprise that one of the vlogger and streamers that you have been following for many years suddenly become experts in gambling and make it appear that gambling is fun and profitable, the truth is, its impossible even a gambler who's been playing for many years cannot become an expert overnight.
Kinda weird and disappointed for these vloggers to start streaming gambling contents knowing full well that their contents are wholesome and family friendly contents. Most of them give disclaimer on their captions to do not copy what they're doing and it's only for fun but knowing they earn huge amount entice they're viewers to copy them instead. I also doubt that they're expert especially that most of their gambling streams are slots and roulettes.

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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
That's the truth; other vloggers have and are exposing them and I have seen one exposee of these vloggers turned gambling streamers, They are faking their winning their dashboard to make it realistic, but in reality they are fake, Vloggers will do everything, even to the point of deceiving their loyal followers for money
Exactly, I watch those videos of them exposing themselves when someone from the comment section ask them to switch over on a different game so that they'll be on a live server, and they actually did it and exposed themselves. They even deleted that live stream session on their pages to cover their lies.
Some of them though are really playing on live servers and using a portion of their gambling promotions payment as bankroll and when they win, they used it for giveaways during their live.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: UltraexTrader on October 23, 2024, 05:28:26 PM
They are definitely fueling an addiction with all their deals and filled balances daily, people get tempted to play watching them and hoping they will also win big as they do but thats not the reality of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: crwth on October 23, 2024, 06:20:54 PM
Streamers make a service popular with the masses. I believe it starts with them, and the goal of wanting and idolizing them is a problem. I think they want the paycheck for the promotion they are doing. What I don't like is the impact on the possible minors who idolize them or want to be like them. I hope that the platform controls it in some way.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Blowon on October 23, 2024, 06:23:32 PM
steamer will trigger addiction, because we can clearly see that they often win quite a lot of money, well and what I believe is that they use tester accounts, and show their followers that they do it with real money, so clearly they will trigger addiction because they say that we can also win like them ;D
too dry


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fortify on October 23, 2024, 06:38:13 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I think that as long as a streamer is completely upfront about their affiliations and any advantages they may have, then being a gambling streamer is perfectly acceptable. The tricky part, which is not necessarily the fault of the streamer, is the potential for a devious casino to rig their account and make it seem to masses of people that the win rate is much higher, if they can tweak their algorithm for this one account. There would be no way to detect this and just moving the win rate a few percentage points could give a very false impression of actual returns, they could also trigger off bonuses more frequently or give the end user jackpots that the average player is unlikely to win, if you are being completely cynical.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 23, 2024, 07:05:23 PM
Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun. Although some streamers are for real and are sincerely doing it for fun and to also gain followers on their channels but I see so many of them that are fake account judging by how they do the streaming.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bias on October 23, 2024, 07:31:26 PM
Parents should check who are the vloggers your children are following; they may be following these streamers who are promoting gambling.

And if they do, then what can you do? Blocked them or demanded from your kid/s not to follow them?

Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun.

All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 24, 2024, 04:20:43 AM
steamer will trigger addiction, because we can clearly see that they often win quite a lot of money, well and what I believe is that they use tester accounts, and show their followers that they do it with real money, so clearly they will trigger addiction because they say that we can also win like them ;D
too dry
It is indeed rare for a streamer to end their broadcast with a loss, even I myself from all the streamers who gamble have never seen them end up losing, all the streamers I watch always end up winning even though occasionally I see them almost end up losing but strangely luck always happens and makes them win, this strengthens my own thoughts that they do have a partnership with the casino with the aim of making many people interested in the casino they promote and this creates the opportunity for addiction.
But are we going to blame the streamer or the casino when the results are not in accordance with what happened to the streamer? it is possible but there is no point in doing so, when we experience the opposite happening to the streamer we have to blame ourselves why we are interested in it, realizing that it is just a trick to withdraw and knowing that winning in gambling is based on luck.  ;)


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 24, 2024, 06:21:47 AM
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Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
I've seen many famous influencers in our country (PH) where they made a huge transition from streaming online games to now streaming playing casino games on their page. I find them disgusting at first, but after a while, I realized that they just did it because they're in need of the money, and I don't blame them if they do it because at the end of the day, we need money in order to survive.

As for these influencers using fake accounts, there's no proof that they're using it, and I believe it's only a theory. Maybe those who are saying that they're using a testnet accounts are those who are criticizing or have hate on that particular influencer. As for the audience though, it's not fine especially when you're a minor and you're watching your favorite influencer playing casino games, but on the other hand, these influencers always say that if you don't have spare money to gamble, don't gamble at all. If you can't control yourself when you're gambling, don't gamble at all. IMO, they're streaming casino games, but still they're giving warning to the viewers about the negative things that gambling can do to one's life.

At the end of the day, it's all up to us if we will gamble on the website they're promoting or not. We can watch them, but it's our decision if we will gamble or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: iv4n on October 24, 2024, 06:39:44 AM
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At the end of the day, it's all up to us if we will gamble on the website they're promoting or not. We can watch them, but it's our decision if we will gamble or not.

I totally agree with you, streamers are just doing the job they are paid to do…. By following streamers, people create an illusion for themselves that it is easy to make a profit by gambling. There is so much bad content on the internet, people need to know how to tell the difference between what is just advertising and what is possible in real life.

No one forces anyone to gamble, we make the choice ourselves... and we ourselves are responsible for everything that happens. It's easy to point fingers and blame everyone else for your mistakes, what's hard is to take responsibility for your own actions. And that's what most addicts do.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: yahoo62278 on October 24, 2024, 08:45:36 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
A casino, an exchange, a wallet, new MMO, dating site, soft drink, collector, tv show, list goes on and on, all advertise to try to get business for the product they are selling. Doesn't matter if you see their ad on your TV, in someone's signature space on a forum, on twitch, a billboard, kick, or youtube. An advertisement is an advertisement no matter where you see it.

As a society it is our job to teach our kids the dangers of engaging in some activities as well as the good things out there. Gambling, drugs, addiction, jobs, skydiving, flying, or whatever. You are constantly learning from the day you are born. Not everything is bad either, some can be both.

If a minor is watching a gambling stream and becomes addicted to gambling and starts stealing, who's fault is it? Is it the kids for finding the content? The parents for not monitoring their child's internet activities? The gambling site? Who's at fault? Lot's seem to want to blame the gambling site, but all they did was sell their product. If you are teaching your kids how to be responsible, there wouldn't be an issue IMO.

I don't feel like many want to take responsibility for their actions these days. Everybody just wants to do whatever and say fuck the consequences until they find themselves buried in debt or in jail.

About the testnet accounts or whatever, some streamers play on demo mode, some are given money to make a stream with. Everyone is different.  Regardless of whether they have higher RTP somehow or endless money, what they are selling is this is what could happen if you are gambling on xxxx site. They're not guaranteeing you will win, hell most of them tell you NOT to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bettercrypto on October 24, 2024, 09:13:29 AM
The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
Many of these streamers are only promoting casinos using their referral links to attracts gamblers to use the casino they are using so they can make similar profits too. I think gamblers are now getting understanding about gambling and why their are so many streamers different social media promoting casinos and attracting gamblers to use their referral links if the want to make money from gambling. Most of the winnings are never real and it is obvious that the accounts these streamers are using are demo accounts that are enabled by casino teams and fully funded making it looks like they are real and their followers can have similar results.

Promoting casinos because they are really that being paid on doing so plus spreading up their links then it would really be a win-win situation for them. This is why these influencers are really that making some easy money not only just that because they are getting paid but also they are really that getting some ref bonuses on which this is really that making money. As for fueling addiction then this is something that will really be just that depending on a certain individual because there are those who are really that able to control themselves about dealing up with gambling and there are ones who do get easily hyped out
and ending up on having those kind of desperation on trying out to copy on what these influencers been doing.  This is why majority do really get that addicted because they've been that hyped
up with those huge wins.

The only streamers who are often contacted by online gambling casinos are those who have large numbers of followers on Facebook and YouTube most of the time. That's why many influencers promote online casinos because the minimum per stream is 400$ per live stream, the commission is separate from the referral bonus.

And when there are millions of followers or subscribers, the price for each live stream is 1000$ or more, if you can stream 10 in a week, it's 10 000$ in just 1 week. just imagine that but many lives of people will be ruin because of them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ruttoshi on October 24, 2024, 09:40:34 AM
Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun. Although some streamers are for real and are sincerely doing it for fun and to also gain followers on their channels but I see so many of them that are fake account judging by how they do the streaming.
Majority of streamers ars are been paid for the ad you see them doing, and that is why the casino gives them fake accounts to make people feel that gambling is easy to make profit by all those wins. However, streamers can call white, black because of the pay they have collected. They lie to earn a living and mislead people into big loss just to make money for themselves.

This is why, you should not invove yourself in gambling because you want a way out of poverty or because you are too lazy to work, otherwise, you will fall for these streamers. Gamble because you enjoy the fun, and accept the fate of your bet.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Zigabel on October 24, 2024, 10:37:30 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
This may not apply to all cases but for the big streaming personalities, they could actually be working with the casinos and getting paid as a promotional measure for the casino but the audience would not understand and would just follow and in situations where they loose the casinos get to make more profit so it could be true the streamers account could be test net accounts but now the cases of the minors I think there's usually ratings for some streams it's probably the minors who have refused staying off based  off the ratings.

Gambling streeming should be regulated if possible as a measure to keep the minors away from getting access to them this is what I suggest but I don't know how achievable it is but if it is I think it will help a whole lot to keeping minors away from it and not grooming addicts at a very early age.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bakasabo on October 24, 2024, 11:03:13 AM
It was always an object of huge curiosity, why people watch gambling streamers. I can understand those who watch video games walkthroughs on youtube, because they either dont have pc/console or money to buy that game, but are curious to find out what is game and story are about. We know that people envy when other achieve big wins. Because of that, people watch gambling streamers because they line to see how others lose money, while they dont? Or I dont understand, where is the point of watching how others manage to get rich by gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 24, 2024, 01:40:58 PM
Streamers make a service popular with the masses. I believe it starts with them, and the goal of wanting and idolizing them is a problem. I think they want the paycheck for the promotion they are doing. What I don't like is the impact on the possible minors who idolize them or want to be like them. I hope that the platform controls it in some way.

A big problem indeed, even those who really not engage into gambling but when they idolize a streamer they might get the attention and stat playing, those minors who are engaging with what streamers are doing they are prone to believe with what they are seeing and the tendency is they will try and the sad part they might engage deeply to the point that it will fuel addiction.

Streamers though are not worried as they doesn't care about implication as they are more on the money, they do their job and they will recieve their paychecks after.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: summonerrk on October 24, 2024, 01:55:05 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bullrun2024bro on October 24, 2024, 02:01:14 PM
No difference if it's slots, CS2 skins, or FIFA pack openings. If you're streaming this shit on Twitch or Kick, you're fueling the addiction of minors.

It's a completely different story if you do this stuff in your free time, but streaming to a super young audience on Twitch or any other platform is just dogshit.

But of course, platforms won't ban anything slightly gambling-related, because it brings tons of traffic to the platform. So this is a quite pointless discussion.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: traderethereum on October 24, 2024, 02:02:55 PM
What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.
I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 24, 2024, 02:10:58 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Minors should not be on social media in the first place, minors having access to mobile devices with internet connection which grants them access to social media and gambling contents goes a long way to show how decayed our society has become.

Streamers are doing their business, streaming is their business and it's where they possibly make their money from, and the fact is that, non of this streamers have ever forced any one to watch their shows and even mimick or try to do what they do in the streaming show, most of the gamblers who watch gambling streamers and at the end, try to do the same thing they watched the streamer do is only doing so at their very own risk.
Because as a fact, we ought to know that many of this wins we see them achieve while streaming has already been programmed by the casino they are promoting in through their stream.

Watch gambling streams for fun only, don't try to do the same thing the streamer did hoping to get or achieve the same result the streamer achieved, you have yourself to blame if you do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 24, 2024, 02:37:57 PM
What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.
I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.

That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stompix on October 24, 2024, 03:20:50 PM
I read it wrong the first time and now when seeing "promoting fun" lol, I'm just laughing.
A far better question would have been are they promoting this for fun or are they getting paid for it, and obviously, what could be the motive for it other than the financial one?

It was always an object of huge curiosity, why people watch gambling streamers. I can understand those who watch video games walkthroughs on youtube, because they either dont have pc/console or money to buy that game, but are curious to find out what is game and story are about.

I never understood that, in videogames at last you watch the skills of that player, you watch how to do things that you can always replicate to win yourself the game or complete a challenge, a map, or a labyrinth, but I will never understand people watching other people playing slots.
This is beyond me, I can't understand how you can be entertained by something like this one drop, and despite all the reasons I got from people that do watch this I still think it's a complete waste of time.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 03:58:16 PM
Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun.

All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.

I think it's not all of them that have a direct affiliate with the casino, although I know that non of them is doing it for fun but for rewards. Those that are not in affiliate with the casino will definitely get followers on their accounts and it can become monetized that they can even earn more from it than they are earning from the games.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 24, 2024, 04:21:35 PM
What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.
I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.

That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
Not really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well on which you would really be that trying out to deal on with. Everything which is really that execessive will really be always that bad.
On the moment that you've seen these streamers in regarding into the things that they've been dealing into, then there's really that high chance that you would really be that ending up on dealing with it
specially on the time or moment that you would really be finding yourself that being too impulsive or having those kind of assumptions that you could be able to make easy money with gambling on which it is really that too wrong on having these kind of thoughts or having these minding on things about winning with gambling. There are people who are really that good when it comes to self control and moderation but there are ones
who do get easily hooked up.

It is really just that too impossible that you wont really be wary on the things that you are really that feeling into on the moment that you are dealing into something. There were really some accusations
that streamers are really that having that rigged kind of game outcomes or results on which it will really be adding up that peak interest for its viewers specially on the time or moment
that you do win up that big. You will really be trying out to copy those things.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: $crypto$ on October 24, 2024, 05:18:24 PM
Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun.

All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.
The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 24, 2024, 05:31:20 PM
Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun.

All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.
The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.

Yeah, that's mostly the case for a streamer. It's a job. They are working, they earn money. It's not about conscience or anything even if kids see their advertisements or streams as long as they will receive money from it.
Well, that's the world we live in now. Since most jobs are done online, who cares if a kid will be a gambling addict because of the stream? It's their parents' fault, etc. etc.
Well, I don't blame them. It's difficult to find a job now especially after the pandemic. Morality is not something you will think twice anymore as long as you can feed your family. There's lesser good in this world now and I think most people are mimicking that idea and they are doing the same by becoming a streamer or a Youtube sensation that will do the same someday.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: pawanjain on October 24, 2024, 05:51:13 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Both of your concerns can be true. It's not that hard for minors to watch these live streams and start gambling.
Even watching gambling streams is easy and creating gambling accounts is easy.
Not all the gambling streams would be sponsored by gambling platforms to the influencers but some do.
It's hard to tell if the influencer was paid to promote the gambling platform. We have to stay aware and keep ourselves in control of our gambling accounts.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Crypto Library on October 24, 2024, 06:58:00 PM
I will not say all of them are fake streamers who took money from the casinos and made their stream on those casinos for promotion I think most of them are fake but there are also some legit gamers i.e. gamblers also. As we know all kinds of sectors have bag and good both peoples.
But personally I never watch those gambler stream, But I saw some of my friends give their time on their stream so that they will also have good chances to win. And moreover they are also looking for bonus codes on the streamers live. But I haven't saw any of them success by using the tactics that are used by the streamer. I am again want to say that most of them are fake streamers who are promoting the gambling sites and as well on some people they are also fueling the gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 24, 2024, 08:40:57 PM
Well, the casinos Business model is very broad , Obviously marketing for people who are quite Famous because they take advantage of them to advertise them , so in this order of ideas , Primarily the streamers get money, and as for feeding the Addiction , I don't think so , I Don't think the level of Evil of any person goes that far , I think what they are Looking for is more customers for the casinos, it is something normal, but they make it Clear that with very influential people , their Public will follow them wherever they go and doing what they do is valid.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Huppercase on October 24, 2024, 09:02:04 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Personally, I will never believe streamers game because there games are too real to be true. If streamers are making, there should be atleast 10/100 that should be making the same thing as them but most often, it's a scam promotion just to make people fall for whatever they are promoting for that time and when they are done giving the PR and referrals, they move to the new casino games that offer them money for marketing their casinos to their customers.

Think about it, do you think people will play a new game in a new casino that is looking for users and new players when they see their mentor losing? Definitely they will not, that's why the casino and the streamers has to make a collaboration about the new game and gave them a special login, that can only be their on user interface and no other person will have access to it even though it look real and not testnet account.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: hahay on October 24, 2024, 09:11:25 PM
I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: HONDACD125 on October 24, 2024, 09:16:48 PM
The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.

Undoubtedly. I see nothing wrong with a streamer getting a casino to sponsor them if they promote the casino as long as they are from a region where gambling is legal. All a streamer needs to do is write a note somewhere during the stream that gambling can be dangerous and anyone who gambles should understand the risks involved and gamble at their own risk, other than that, they aren't obligated to do anything and it's the responsibility of the viewers to understand and decide what is good and bad for them.

As for the children who might be watching such streams, I would blame the parents and elders for allowing them to do that, and streamers would usually have their restrictions set so that only people with account ages above 18 or something can watch them. So if kids are watching YouTube Kids, they aren't going to stumble upon such things in general.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: AliMan on October 24, 2024, 09:32:06 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

This is really alarming nowadays, you can't control who's going to be the audience that could see these streamers online through social media. I've observed this several times, and minors or even kids got stucked through gambling promotional ads which viewers couldn't skip the videos. It even pop up through android applications that has a priority actions through your phone functions. I don't think it's gonna be fair enough for parents raising their kids, without even knowing that their children have been slowly learning or desiring to engage themselves with gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 25, 2024, 02:04:05 AM
I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.
You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer. This makes it possible for many people to become addicted. But maybe this also depends on the mindset of each individual, because if from the start watching but with a good mindset maybe no one will be interested in trying it, maybe there is but there is still a side of awareness that is owned where when the results are the opposite of what the streamer got, it doesn't make us addicted but realize that this is just a way of withdrawing which is done to make the casino being promoted more visitors.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 25, 2024, 05:43:19 AM

That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
Not really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well on which you would really be that trying out to deal on with. Everything which is really that execessive will really be always that bad.
On the moment that you've seen these streamers in regarding into the things that they've been dealing into, then there's really that high chance that you would really be that ending up on dealing with it
specially on the time or moment that you would really be finding yourself that being too impulsive or having those kind of assumptions that you could be able to make easy money with gambling on which it is really that too wrong on having these kind of thoughts or having these minding on things about winning with gambling. There are people who are really that good when it comes to self control and moderation but there are ones
who do get easily hooked up.

It is really just that too impossible that you wont really be wary on the things that you are really that feeling into on the moment that you are dealing into something. There were really some accusations
that streamers are really that having that rigged kind of game outcomes or results on which it will really be adding up that peak interest for its viewers specially on the time or moment
that you do win up that big. You will really be trying out to copy those things.

Yes, of course, researching to find out and understand what activities you are actually going to do applies to everything you find, not just gambling, because sometimes even though there is no impact from the activities you want to do, of course when you don't know what the activity is really about, it will lead you to various inappropriate actions and even cause problems.
Another thing, as you said, is that there are some people who are able to maintain themselves and their rational mindset when they see everything that looks tempting and there are also some people who are unable to do it.

This means that for some people who are unable to maintain their rational mindset in responding to everything they find, it is very possible for them to easily fall into and get trapped in the wrong place, such as thinking that they will also be able to achieve big wins like those achieved by streamers or even thinking that gambling is the right place to overcome financial problems. So in conclusion, I think the key is to maintain a level of awareness and a rational perspective so that you can think that everything that seems too easy to get is unreasonable.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: traderethereum on October 25, 2024, 07:47:07 AM
That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
But the streamers can always warn their audience not to playing gambling excessively or use too much money but only use gambling as for fun. If they can do that, at least they invite their audience to be more carefully when playing gambling and responsible with what their audience will do. They can not follows what the streamers do because there is a differences of many things.

Maybe that can makes their audience realize that all things that the streamers serves to them will be for entertainment only so they don't have to playing gambling. If all people can treat gambling as a fun thing, no one will gets a problem from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: davis196 on October 25, 2024, 07:59:11 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

The most important question is different. Why gambling streams are still allowed on big streaming platforms?
Some countries have very strict anti-gambling regulations, when it comes to offline gambling, and yet they don't do much to stop and regulate online gambling. This includes the promotion of online gambling via streaming platforms. The US gambling regulators could simply force platforms like Twitch, KIK and Youtube to ban gambling streamers. This hasn't been done yet, for some reason.
Anyway, to answer your question. Gambling streamers are promoting both fun AND are fueling gambling addiction. Gambling is fun(at least in the beginning), that's why most people get addicted. If gambling wasn't fun, nobody would ever get addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Wexnident on October 25, 2024, 11:39:15 AM
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If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.


If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: summonerrk on October 25, 2024, 12:54:03 PM
What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.
I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.

Just think about it, casino streaming is an explosive mixture. At the same time, gambling affects the gambler psychologically, and this is no small thing. This includes excitement and frustration and intermediate small joys when winning. But if the gambler streams and talks to himself and the audience, then this is another big factor in the load on his nervous system. And this may not be noticeable at first, but I am sure that after several such streams, such a gambler will be emotionally exhausted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 25, 2024, 01:08:51 PM
If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.

If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc didn't allow people to live stream gambling. Gambling streamers are mostly stream in Kick, how can minors know about Kick? it's not easy to find this site since it's not popular.

What you see the new generations is stupid in social medias is just tip of the iceberg, while most of them are really smart, creative and better than the previous generations. They're more talented, it just that the previous generations are jealous and don't want the new generations to take over their titles/positions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Accardo on October 25, 2024, 01:16:29 PM
I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.
You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer.

There'll be no means possible for the viewer's performance to near the success rate of those streamers. While it's addictive to watch and enjoy seeing others win big, the impact it has on potential gamblers is dangerous to their finance, because of the assumption that winning big requires a bigger bet. And that's exactly what streamers portray for their followers to learn. Isn't that a treat for a beginner to start with?

However, with such a communicative control, streamers would have been the best tool to instigating responsible gambling on people, but the reverse is there, and it has a lot to teach about the aim of casinos using streamers to increase compulsive gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Gheka on October 25, 2024, 01:24:12 PM
The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.

Undoubtedly. I see nothing wrong with a streamer getting a casino to sponsor them if they promote the casino as long as they are from a region where gambling is legal. All a streamer needs to do is write a note somewhere during the stream that gambling can be dangerous and anyone who gambles should understand the risks involved and gamble at their own risk, other than that, they aren't obligated to do anything and it's the responsibility of the viewers to understand and decide what is good and bad for them.

As for the children who might be watching such streams, I would blame the parents and elders for allowing them to do that, and streamers would usually have their restrictions set so that only people with account ages above 18 or something can watch them. So if kids are watching YouTube Kids, they aren't going to stumble upon such things in general.
Social platforms that can stream online will almost certainly reduce the chances of gambling-related billboards appearing because many tickets complain about this impact on society, the government also has enough evidence to require these platforms not to be allowed and more leniently, to attach age requirements and advice before viewing. So these fields usually don't have many famous streamers, only a few people who are hungry for advertising take this job but in general, there will always be a sweep to clean up these platforms.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 25, 2024, 01:39:17 PM
Well, the casinos Business model is very broad , Obviously marketing for people who are quite Famous because they take advantage of them to advertise them , so in this order of ideas , Primarily the streamers get money, and as for feeding the Addiction , I don't think so , I Don't think the level of Evil of any person goes that far , I think what they are Looking for is more customers for the casinos, it is something normal, but they make it Clear that with very influential people , their Public will follow them wherever they go and doing what they do is valid.


Business as usual, there's nothing wrong in terms of money making I mean they just doing their part as how casino ask them to do, stream games and use referrals or use the site to attract people to visit, that's  a normal way to market your service or your product right? so with casino they will find influencial individuals as they have a broad venue to advertise, streamers and casino owners are for business and making money it's the audiences obligation to control their emotions and take good care of their finances if ever they find themselves getting involve with risky type of entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 25, 2024, 04:05:37 PM
I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.

You are right, I think players who doesn't know the pattern of streamers activity will just end up being misleaded because they are going to think that the accounts they see the streamers using are real account when it's not. I almost believed that plinko is a very sweet and easy to win game when I first saw it being advertised online by a guy that happens to be a streamer.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: DaNNy001 on October 25, 2024, 09:29:38 PM
It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Silberman on October 25, 2024, 10:33:37 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
You are not really telling us anything new, we know that influencers trying to get you to gamble at a specific casino are not gambling with their own money, so they either receive an amount they cannot withdraw from the casino or they are using play money, this is why trying to replicate their positive results is a waste of time, since if you are not risking your own money then you can play forever until you get a big win, which is something we cannot really do as we are actually using our own money to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Odusko on October 25, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.

If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc didn't allow people to live stream gambling. Gambling streamers are mostly stream in Kick, how can minors know about Kick? it's not easy to find this site since it's not popular.

What you see the new generations is stupid in social medias is just tip of the iceberg, while most of them are really smart, creative and better than the previous generations. They're more talented, it just that the previous generations are jealous and don't want the new generations to take over their titles/positions.
One thing for sure is that, this is a computer age and at that, nothing that exists on the internet can be hidden from minors forever or even for a long time, and that is why, is better to treat minor's as special set of Fork's that need close attention and monitoring because without such monitoring, locating the bad aspects on the internet will just be a stone throw at their figure tips, so for that first of all as a parent's, you have to let the young ones know about the risk that is involved in all of this, and also making sure that you are physically involved in their activities and how they use the internet all the time, this is very important.

Instead of giving the full scale block, it is better to educate them and caution them through, that way you exposed them to the danger and also help them to protect themselves through it all, although this is not in all things and gambling shouldn't be among those things you should exposed kids to, thinking you are being proactive.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: uneng on October 25, 2024, 11:09:49 PM
It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
Influencers fuel addiction because they don't educate gamblers regards gambling. Their work is to misinform the audience, since they don't lead people through the way of responsible gambling, neither teach the public how gambling works for real. They take advantage of their popularity and charisma to excite people towards gambling practice. The aspect which most annoys me is when influencers tell their public that gambling is a source of extra income.

This is a very sordid mean to promote gambling, because it directs the propaganda to people who can't afford losing money, as these are the people who are looking for extra income on the internet, while they should be aiming the propaganda to a public which have money to spend and lose gambling without further negative consequences over their personal finances.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on October 26, 2024, 01:40:45 AM
I'm not entirely sure that what they do by showing it is to make many people addicted, maybe it's more accurate that they are doing their job which is to make many people interested but to become addicted depends on our own mindset, moreover the casino will not be responsible for what will happen when players become addicted to gambling because their goal is profit, even though it is true that someone who is addicted to this brings profit I doubt that the goal is to make many people addicted. This sounds evil.
On the other hand, it is possible that casinos and streamers work together to attract many people to be interested in their casinos and visit to gamble, but I don't think the casinos themselves will admit that their goal is to make many people addicted, so the addiction factor is in the control of each individual.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 26, 2024, 02:10:13 AM
You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer.

There'll be no means possible for the viewer's performance to near the success rate of those streamers. While it's addictive to watch and enjoy seeing others win big, the impact it has on potential gamblers is dangerous to their finance, because of the assumption that winning big requires a bigger bet. And that's exactly what streamers portray for their followers to learn. Isn't that a treat for a beginner to start with?

However, with such a communicative control, streamers would have been the best tool to instigating responsible gambling on people, but the reverse is there, and it has a lot to teach about the aim of casinos using streamers to increase compulsive gambling.
That's right I agree, usually there are some streamers who provide patterns or strategies for viewers who try to gamble at the casino they promote, but that doesn't allow players to get what the streamer has gotten, besides that with the patterns or strategies given by the streamer I think that is also one of the tricks they do to attract viewers to try gambling at their casino, sometimes they give guarantees but when what happens is not according to the agreement they don't respond to anything.
I don't think beginners should see examples or watch streamers before gambling, because I don't think streamers have ever said they advise players to stay in good control such as not gambling excessively from the many streamers I've watched, none have ever said that, but what I often find is when they win they say "quickly register and get a big win like me".


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: alegotardo on October 26, 2024, 02:20:41 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

There are very few streamers who still use the hype to entertain their audience and bring real, relevant content and also warn them about responsible gambling.

The vast majority of streamers are just looking for easy money without having to take the risk of betting in casinos with real money. If they are not being sponsored by some website, then they use fake accounts or unrealistic bets to deceive their audience.

What impresses me is that Google still continues to operate without any problem or restriction on this type of content. Since October 2020, Twitch has banned gambling broadcasts of any kind.

However, money always speaks louder, and YouTube also makes a lot of money by keeping this type of content on the air.

Anyway, I believe that this will not last for long, since many countries are already beginning to suffer changes in their economies due to people's uncontrolled gambling.

I believe that soon only casinos that operate responsibly will be able to maintain active advertising on the main content portals on the internet.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: adzino on October 26, 2024, 02:25:04 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
They do use real accounts and real balance to play in those casinos. But it is the casino that pays them. They can place the bets like normally anyone would do and can win or lose the bet. But in the end they have to return the funds to the casino. So if they win big, they don't get to keep the profit. If they lose the bet, the casino gets back the money. So giving the streamers thousands of dollars doesn't affect the casino at all. It all goes back to the casino. And yes, the streamers act like they are promoting fun, but the truth is they ignite the greed inside the people.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Nwada001 on October 26, 2024, 03:09:21 AM
They do use real accounts and real balance to play in those casinos. But it is the casino that pays them. They can place the bets like normally anyone would do and can win or lose the bet. But in the end they have to return the funds to the casino. So if they win big, they don't get to keep the profit. If they lose the bet, the casino gets back the money. So giving the streamers thousands of dollars doesn't affect the casino at all. It all goes back to the casino. And yes, the streamers act like they are promoting fun, but the truth is they ignite the greed inside the people.
I don't think this is applicable in all cases, as the contract agreement between the casino and streamers can be different. I saw a thread on this gambling board some time ago where the streamer was having issues with the casino for not honouring their own part of the agreement; either they refused to pay the streamer his or her winnings during the advertising process or some of the balance for the advice, which made the streamer call them out. I'm on mobile; if I switch to PC, I will search for the link and update it here.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 26, 2024, 11:39:03 AM
That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
But the streamers can always warn their audience not to playing gambling excessively or use too much money but only use gambling as for fun. If they can do that, at least they invite their audience to be more carefully when playing gambling and responsible with what their audience will do. They can not follows what the streamers do because there is a differences of many things.

Maybe that can makes their audience realize that all things that the streamers serves to them will be for entertainment only so they don't have to playing gambling. If all people can treat gambling as a fun thing, no one will gets a problem from gambling.

Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: traderethereum on October 26, 2024, 03:22:25 PM
If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.


If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
It is right beause they can not think wisely like adult people although many adult people can not do that  easily. Minors will only see the fun things from gambling without thinks about how they will get the money because they can ask the money from their parents.
They will continue playing gambling with that money and if they often to return to the casino, they will gets addicted to gambling easily. Once they get gambling addiction, that will be a big problem for them and that could ruins their life.
Many minors can not thinks about what impact that they will get so they will still gambling.

Just think about it, casino streaming is an explosive mixture. At the same time, gambling affects the gambler psychologically, and this is no small thing. This includes excitement and frustration and intermediate small joys when winning. But if the gambler streams and talks to himself and the audience, then this is another big factor in the load on his nervous system. And this may not be noticeable at first, but I am sure that after several such streams, such a gambler will be emotionally exhausted.
I agree that gambling affects the gambler's psychology so that can makes them continue gambling without thinks about the risk. They just see the fun and the joys playing gambling but when they lose their money, they becomes angry and could also ruins something around them.
That is the impact for the audiences who watch the streamers playing gambling so that is why they must have control over themselves. The streamers gives an entertainment to the audience so the audience must be wise to act.

Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.
The streamer will not do that because that can impacts to their revenue because they will see many people will not follows the streamer to playing gambling. The streamers wants to get much bonuses from what they do so they will lure many people to follows them to gambling.
They have a target from gambling so they will make sure that many people will playing gambling from using their link. It is why we must be careful when watch the streamers playing gambling.
We must know that gambling can gives a bad impact on life if we lose control.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on October 26, 2024, 03:30:13 PM
It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
What every gamblers should know is that gambling is based on individual luck, so if there be anything that make me to connect to a streamer, what I will be doing is just have fun watching the game as he plays them, but none the less also is the fact that I will put in some measures that will help prevent me from possible addictions, this is because of I get overwhelmed by the success of the streemer and making my own bets based on that feelings, the outcome of that could be devastating for me on the long run and that is why streamers Fuel high addictions and loses.


So for the sake of my financial stability, I will stay away from gambling streamers video as frequent as I could and if I want to gamble I go all in using my own analysis.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: salad daging on October 26, 2024, 03:59:50 PM
They do use real accounts and real balance to play in those casinos. But it is the casino that pays them. They can place the bets like normally anyone would do and can win or lose the bet. But in the end they have to return the funds to the casino. So if they win big, they don't get to keep the profit. If they lose the bet, the casino gets back the money. So giving the streamers thousands of dollars doesn't affect the casino at all. It all goes back to the casino. And yes, the streamers act like they are promoting fun, but the truth is they ignite the greed inside the people.
Some say the streamer is part of the casino affiliate where they will be paid according to the percentage agreement, maybe this is just a guess but some streamers I believe they are paid by the casino to promote it.

Because some say the account is from the casino directly including the balance, you also said so so we believe both, but as we know there is still no one who publishes someone who is a streamer how their income, whether from the casino with the winnings or from the affiliate how many new customers join.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Awaklara on October 26, 2024, 04:09:00 PM
Some say the streamer is part of the casino affiliate where they will be paid according to the percentage agreement, maybe this is just a guess but some streamers I believe they are paid by the casino to promote it.

Because some say the account is from the casino directly including the balance, you also said so so we believe both, but as we know there is still no one who publishes someone who is a streamer how their income, whether from the casino with the winnings or from the affiliate how many new customers join.
I think casino streamers will not make and earn their money in the same place. Maybe there will be some of them who will continue to gamble regularly but will not make money from winnings like when they make streaming videos. Maybe there will be some agreements with casinos regarding the use of streamer accounts. However, winning quite easily and getting big multipliers will not be as easy as advertised by streamers. This has been a topic among some gamblers. That streamers will only get profit from casinos, not lose money there. Either from affiliates or separate value agreements from casinos and streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nimogsm on October 26, 2024, 08:23:19 PM
It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
here the position is that they create the illusion of victories and luck and those who watch these streams can easily fall into this trap because the streamer shows only one side of this coin. Of course, when it comes to business, there are no special moral components, especially for streamers who are ready to advertise anything and anytime, as long as they get paid well for it. The competition is high and they understand perfectly well that if they don’t advertise the casino, someone else will.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: I_Anime on October 26, 2024, 08:46:39 PM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 26, 2024, 08:55:23 PM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
They are actually fueling up addiction or really that trying that making those gamblers even more interested with gambling but if we do really tend to look around then these fellas are really just that doing their job and this is something which is really that very normal thing because they would really be doing on what are the tasks that been given on which of course at the same time they are really that making money with it. Everything matters into that certain individual whose really that looking or watching into these streams on which if you are a certain type of person whose really that not good on controlling  yourself about playing gambling, then most likely you would really be getting hooked up and would be ending up on being that addicted with gambling since you would really be trying out to copy those streamers on how they would really be playing.
We do know that every each person will really be having that kind of different control or discipline towards themselves on which there will really be those people who could be able to manage on not to play or really just that be testing out on minimal and would stop on the moment that they had lost it all which its a must thing to do. There are those people who are really that ending up on getting addicted because they were really that anticipating or expecting that they could be able to be hit up on the same on where these streamers are really that doing. Therefore, certain conditions will really be always reflecting out on how you do deal
up with things accordingly. If you are really that trying out to make money with gambling then it will really be that ending up for you to face up such disaster.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 26, 2024, 11:25:25 PM
It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
here the position is that they create the illusion of victories and luck and those who watch these streams can easily fall into this trap because the streamer shows only one side of this coin. Of course, when it comes to business, there are no special moral components, especially for streamers who are ready to advertise anything and anytime, as long as they get paid well for it. The competition is high and they understand perfectly well that if they don’t advertise the casino, someone else will.

Great point, and that imagination brings hope to those people who are hoping to experienced that same outcome, but unfortunately instead of earning or winning most of them will just fall into addiction where the casino will earned most of the favor, it brings engagements and participation from people who supposedly not trying it, but because of being fanatics and being involved to the fan base of those streamers they'll catch the interest and become a victims.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 27, 2024, 01:27:36 AM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
That is the goal of casinos and streamers, because with what they do, of course they will find many people interested in gambling at the promoted casino thinking that winning at the casino is easy to get, when in fact it is the opposite. Now many casinos are operating and of course they do this to develop their own casinos, and the funny thing is that I think many people are already aware of this but they still look for wins at different casinos. Of course, streamers will not care what will happen to their players who have visited and played at the promoted casino, even though the player complains or protests often, it will not make the streamer provide a definite way out, with the fact that winning is difficult to happen, they will probably only provide a way to get a win, but the main goal is to continue to make the player go deeper into gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 27, 2024, 05:08:50 AM
Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.
The streamer will not do that because that can impacts to their revenue because they will see many people will not follows the streamer to playing gambling. The streamers wants to get much bonuses from what they do so they will lure many people to follows them to gambling.
They have a target from gambling so they will make sure that many people will playing gambling from using their link. It is why we must be careful when watch the streamers playing gambling.
We must know that gambling can gives a bad impact on life if we lose control.

Yes, as I have said before, my friend, it is impossible for a streamer to explain the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling because in any case it is contrary to their goal of getting more people to be tempted and interested in entering funds to register which can indirectly reduce their income in terms of commission.

On the other hand, the point is not to be easily tempted by everything that looks tempting, you can think like that if you have considered and come to the conclusion that everything that is shown makes sense, but if not and you do not find a reasonable reason why streamers can get a large amount of money with just a little effort then it is better to avoid it, and the only way for us not to get caught in their trap in my opinion is to think rationally when you find everything you just saw.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Finestream on October 27, 2024, 05:14:07 AM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction.

That wasn’t in the title; it was a question.

But regardless, these promoters don’t care if their followers become addicted to gambling. They’re just out to make money from the affiliate bonuses they receive. You can’t really blame them since they’re simply promoting the gambling site. When a user signs up, it’s clearly stated in the TOS that they must be of mature age to gamble. So whether addiction happens or not, it’s not the streamer’s fault - the responsibility lies with the gamblers themselves.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 27, 2024, 06:07:42 AM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
Not all streamers are like this. There are many famous influencers here in our country who made a transition from streaming online games to streaming gambling already.

I've watched many of them and despite of them indirectly promoting the casino, the truth is, we have the final decision on whether we will gamble on the site that they're playing as well or not. They can stream, they can play, they can gamble anytime they want, but we can decide whether we gamble as well like them or not. Gambling streamers fueling addiction? I can watch multiple gambling streamers all day and congratulate them if they win a huge sum of money, but I will not gamble just like them and it's because I don't have the money to do it and I don't want to get addicted.

Streamers gain, but streamers are losing money as well. Yes, there might be some who don't care about their followers, but not all of them are portraying gambling like "You need to gamble on this site if you want to be rich." At the end of the day, it's our decision if we will gamble or not. We can watch them, but it's up to us. At the same time, a person that isn't watching them at all can just gamble if he wants to.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: gunhell16 on October 27, 2024, 07:04:16 AM
Some say the streamer is part of the casino affiliate where they will be paid according to the percentage agreement, maybe this is just a guess but some streamers I believe they are paid by the casino to promote it.

Because some say the account is from the casino directly including the balance, you also said so so we believe both, but as we know there is still no one who publishes someone who is a streamer how their income, whether from the casino with the winnings or from the affiliate how many new customers join.
I think casino streamers will not make and earn their money in the same place. Maybe there will be some of them who will continue to gamble regularly but will not make money from winnings like when they make streaming videos. Maybe there will be some agreements with casinos regarding the use of streamer accounts. However, winning quite easily and getting big multipliers will not be as easy as advertised by streamers. This has been a topic among some gamblers. That streamers will only get profit from casinos, not lose money there. Either from affiliates or separate value agreements from casinos and streamers.

As the title says, for me it's the same thing that streamers do every time they do their live. They do that together, and of course, when the viewers see that he is winning in the video that he shows, the other viewers will be encouraged to deposit because they will think that it is just that easy to do because of what they see in the live stream that the streamers are doing.

But the only people who do this are those who are influenced by streamers, but people who don't really have a passion for gambling will ignore it, especially gamblers who are not
addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mammusu on October 27, 2024, 07:41:04 AM
According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
Hiring streamers is currently one of the solutions for casinos to promote their sites in order to get a lot of interest, streamers tend to highlight their winnings and we all often don't realize that the winnings have actually been arranged as naturally as possible by the casino, so that makes us interested in trying it, I think what the streamers are showing is just misleading winnings by giving an unrealistic picture of Gambling so far, so that with what the streamer continues to show, it can actually trigger addiction, because for their who don't think realistically, of course they will be easy to tempted and will try their luck for hope to get a big win like the streamer gets.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Tmoonz on October 27, 2024, 07:49:08 AM
The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.

That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 27, 2024, 11:31:51 AM
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Starting from the title, Yes they are promoting fun if you position your mind that way and enjoy it while it lasts, but No, they are not promoting addiction, it is left to you if you allow yourself to be addicted to it.

However, I will never be a party to betting the streamer's games judging by the bad experiences of people, we should be wise. The fact that they are not forcing anyone to bet is a freedom on its own. Still, if you now bet for a while with no good result, why not quit? It's as simple as that.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 11:56:51 AM
but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jewan420 on October 27, 2024, 12:35:43 PM
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Gambling has already spread among teenagers in many countries due to Steamer or various reasons, even many have become addicted to gambling. If I talk about my area, there are many people who gamble in my area and not less number of teenagers. They get into gambling by watching adults or by looking at advertisements of various celebrities online. They don't even know how to gamble or what gambling is? But greed for money emerges in them. Taking advantage of this lure, gambling establishments advertise with celebrities to show that gambling at their establishments will make them rich.

A younger brother in my area sold his smartphone to play this game. His plan was that he would sell his current phone and use that money to gamble and make a profit and use that money to buy more advanced mobiles. He loses his entire money as soon as he enters gambling. If he knew what gambling was, he would not have taken such a step. Here I must blame the government of my country, in countries where gambling is banned, no action is taken against them even though they advertise gambling openly.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: GxSTxV on October 27, 2024, 12:51:04 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I have a topic about my experience in streaming gambling and I didn’t hide anything about the truth that I get a free balance not from my deposits and my salary is paid upon the hours of daily streaming away from the result of my session.
When it comes to most streamers today who are live playing gambling games and slots, poker, and on social media, I get why people question the authenticity of what they’re seeing. Here in the Philippines, big social media personalities have started streaming these games even if gambling wasn’t something they were into before. For a lot of them it’s clearly for promotionals.

Now, we have the talk around testers or fake accounts with a balance set up just for streaming? That’s not hard to believe. Some casinos offer this setup to keep streams entertaining without risk to the streamer and while I can’t say if everyone does it, which wouldn’t surprise me. Unfortunately for the audience it’s tough to know if what they are seeing is real money or staged.

Then there is the issue with viewers, especially younger ones. Many of these streamers have young followers who might be drawn into gambling by what they see online. This kind of exposure is definitely questionable. It’s esay for the thrill of the game and the potential for big wins to catch their attention without fully understanding the risks.

So, for me I think transparency is key. Streamers who don’t make it clear when they are using promotional balances or who are not mindful of their audience could be setting a dangerous example. Streaming responsibly means being upfront with viewers and respecting the influence they have especially on younger followers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: summonerrk on October 27, 2024, 02:02:33 PM
but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Unfortunately, teenagers often see the world differently than we, adults. They are full of naivety and maximalism. They want everything at once, and of course, this is immediately punished by the rules of the harsh adult world. Teenagers are ready to believe in fairy tales about quick money, but in reality, if no one warns them, they will be deceived. Gambling does not like the naive.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Solosanz on October 27, 2024, 03:20:25 PM
A younger brother in my area sold his smartphone to play this game. His plan was that he would sell his current phone and use that money to gamble and make a profit and use that money to buy more advanced mobiles. He loses his entire money as soon as he enters gambling. If he knew what gambling was, he would not have taken such a step. Here I must blame the government of my country, in countries where gambling is banned, no action is taken against them even though they advertise gambling openly.
I don't believe if your government advertise gambling openly when your country ban gambling.

I'm sure it's come from other ways, let's say social medias, instead of seeing gambling ads, you see someone live stream gambling or people are posting the casinos in comments even though it's off topic.

Or they promote it through porn sites.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: panjul07 on October 27, 2024, 03:24:44 PM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

We will never know the real truth until there is someone who can prove it or maybe until the streamer tell about it publicly.
What I know is that usually streamers use money (real money) credited by the casino but there must be a deal behind it.
The most important thing for me is that I dont really care whether they are playing with fake or real money because I take them as entertaiment only.
What viewers need to have in their mind is that they should not be attracted to do the same thing as what they watch in the stream.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: alani123 on October 27, 2024, 06:18:03 PM
I think gambling streamers are promoted to urge everyone to join in the worst kind of gambling, constantly spinning slots that are not provably fair with huge amounts of money.

Honestly slots aren't worth it at all for so many people because the minimum wager is like 0.2$ but you have to wager hundreds if not thousands of times to win anything significant, in the meantime you have lost more most of the times.

These are some dark pattern type of behaviours really. So I'd say if you want to get an idea of what gambling fun is, avoid streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Bushdark on October 27, 2024, 07:25:34 PM
but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Unfortunately, teenagers often see the world differently than we, adults. They are full of naivety and maximalism. They want everything at once, and of course, this is immediately punished by the rules of the harsh adult world. Teenagers are ready to believe in fairy tales about quick money, but in reality, if no one warns them, they will be deceived. Gambling does not like the naive.
Most teenagers failed in gambling because of lack of experience and the curiosity to make fast profits from gambling.
The well experienced gamblers know that it's not everytime winnings come to them and they are always prepared for the time when things might not go as planned. Teenagers will always been influenced by streamers and would want to have similar results on what they are seeing without knowing that Many of these influencers are paid promoters of the gambling sites they are promoting online faking most of the winnings.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on October 27, 2024, 07:57:24 PM
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That is a other point I have noticed about gambling streamers and their usual activity in streaming platforms like Kick and previously Twitch... Why always go for slots when there are so many kinds of gambling games they could go for, like blackjack, mines or Plinko, many of them also have a provably fair versión (Stake original games is a good example of it). My theory is that once they get a partnership with some casino they are encouraged to wager as much as possible in games which typically resolve in matter of seconds (like slots) instead going for games which take a couple of minutes and have more of an strategy element to them (being blackjack a good example of it). Since their partnership depends on the amount wagered, it is more convenient for them to go with slots.
Of course, that is just a personal theory I have, it be possible they just prefer to play slots in front of their virtual audience since it is by far more popular among gamblers than poker of blackjack, who knows...


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Cookdata on October 27, 2024, 08:41:32 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

If a streamer show you a way to play and earn and you later try it out and then you win nothing, then I don't think it's worth following again. In my opinion, there are platforms that you will see that you don't need a soothsayer to tells you it's a lie, most often gambling streamers are more like influencers to me than people who show you how things work, you are likely to click their links many times than the money you are going to make from the things they show.

Fueling addiction can be true but that's for people who believe in the streamers, nobody can influence anyone unless they are ready to do it. The people we thought are been influenced already have their mind program for it, they are just waiting for the opportunity and gambling streamers are just one of the ways to quick gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Lanatsa on October 27, 2024, 08:48:44 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

If a streamer show you a way to play and earn and you later try it out and then you win nothing, then I don't think it's worth following again. In my opinion, there are platforms that you will see that you don't need a soothsayer to tells you it's a lie, most often gambling streamers are more like influencers to me than people who show you how things work, you are likely to click their links many times than the money you are going to make from the things they show.

Fueling addiction can be true but that's for people who believe in the streamers, nobody can influence anyone unless they are ready to do it. The people we thought are been influenced already have their mind program for it, they are just waiting for the opportunity and gambling streamers are just one of the ways to quick gambling addiction.
The thing i dont like with some streamers is that they do trying out to tell that there's some guarantee on winning on which tons of people getting fooled because of such claim and really that believe that this could really be something that will happen on the moment that they will really be playing on which this is really that a bad decision to make. Whenever you are really that dealing up with gambling then there's no one into this world would really be able to alter out their luck and able to win up specially that most of these streamers are really that focusing into streaming slot games.

You cant be able to see streamers that they will really be trying out to stream those sports betting picks or what but rather you do mostly see them on getting involved with slots and other casino games on which
the results are fast paced or simply instant. As part of marketing then of course they will really be making things as hyped as possible to hook up potential players on which they could successfully make someone to
register and made out deposits into that advertised company or platform.

They are really indeed fueling someones addiction but come to think that this is what their primary motive or job is to make out some exposure and trying to hook up people as much as they could.
They are the ones will really be that trying to give out that exposure and at the same time they are getting paid of it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Akbarkoe on October 27, 2024, 10:40:04 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It all depends on the individual's perspective. Although some streamers may use testnet accounts and have bigger wins that are not in the form of cash, which you cannot be sure of. But what is equally important is that the viewers themselves must be aware of this considering that these shows may not always represent the reality or perception of gambling.

Because people, especially younger people are easily influenced when they see big wins or games that look 'easy' in a stream. That's when it becomes the responsibility of each individual to be able to answer that it is just a show and the wins in the process may not be entirely honest or may have been rigged. Awareness not to get caught up in the illusion of big wins or instant promises must always be emphasized so that every viewer can make the right decision and not be carried away by the perception


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Weawant on October 27, 2024, 11:09:58 PM
Great point, and that imagination brings hope to those people who are hoping to experienced that same outcome, but unfortunately instead of earning or winning most of them will just fall into addiction where the casino will earned most of the favor, it brings engagements and participation from people who supposedly not trying it, but because of being fanatics and being involved to the fan base of those streamers they'll catch the interest and become a victims.
Actually some of the streamers may be working for the casinos, so if they promote addiction or not, it may not matter to them really, they are just rendering a paid service. Streamer literally do push traffic to these sites which for them means more money and like you stated it's very much possible the fan based if the streams who has benefited a few times will drive the traffic with his fan base so it's left to them to place a control on their staking methods. These streamers do have a strategy to recycle money so as to stay in the game which they don't show to fans always and fans get stocked and rather addicted than winning.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on October 28, 2024, 12:23:27 AM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction? I think it really depends on how a viewer responds to the shows made by the streamers, in the sense that if you misunderstand in responding to what and how gambling is shown by the streamers then of course in the end it is very possible for you to get addicted and experience various terrible things over time, while on the other hand if you really think that the big wins that the streamers get very easily are unreasonable then one day it is very possible for you to only treat gambling with the aim of seeking pleasure, so the conclusion is to always use a rational mindset every time you see something new that you find to minimize misunderstandings so that you are safe in the long run.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Accardo on October 28, 2024, 01:11:31 AM
These streamers do have a strategy to recycle money so as to stay in the game which they don't show to fans always and fans get stocked and rather addicted than winning.

Recycle money? Could they have been made gamblers with tons of big wins that ended up collaborating with casinos through promotion. Additionally, they kind of explain gambling virtually to their viewers but a lot of them get it the wrong way. Which is trying to mimick the streamer instead of doing things their own way. The huge money they wager real or cooked up, isn't all they've got.

At least the video doesn't include where the influencer is sad over losing all his funds. Viewers are always required to play according to what they're able to afford.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 28, 2024, 03:21:10 AM
These streamers do have a strategy to recycle money so as to stay in the game which they don't show to fans always and fans get stocked and rather addicted than winning.
The correct term is "commissions", and not recycled money.

These commissions are coming from those gamblers who signed up using their referral link. That's why most of the popular streamers right now have huge amounts of money in their gambling account. There's one famous streamer said in a podcast that "He's getting huge money from commissions, but he's still investing his own money in addition to the commissions that he's getting." He's not addicted at all, and he also is saying to the public that "If you can't afford to lose when gambling, don't gamble at all." He might be promoting gambling in his channel, but still, he's preventing his viewers to get addicted.

Getting addicted is our decision. We can watch them, but we will be the one to decide whether we will gamble like them, or you will just watch them win and be happy with their winnings.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 28, 2024, 12:54:11 PM
Great point, and that imagination brings hope to those people who are hoping to experienced that same outcome, but unfortunately instead of earning or winning most of them will just fall into addiction where the casino will earned most of the favor, it brings engagements and participation from people who supposedly not trying it, but because of being fanatics and being involved to the fan base of those streamers they'll catch the interest and become a victims.
Actually some of the streamers may be working for the casinos, so if they promote addiction or not, it may not matter to them really, they are just rendering a paid service. Streamer literally do push traffic to these sites which for them means more money and like you stated it's very much possible the fan based if the streams who has benefited a few times will drive the traffic with his fan base so it's left to them to place a control on their staking methods. These streamers do have a strategy to recycle money so as to stay in the game which they don't show to fans always and fans get stocked and rather addicted than winning.

Yup, as after they collab or accept that deal with the casinos they already been paid as promoters and they don't think of anything else just the money that they will be collecting from their paychecks, if they are fuelling addiction there's nothing that they will about since doing such actions is for the person itself to control, but morality wise, knowing that there are audiences that following and watching you, being responsible should also be accounted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: summonerrk on October 28, 2024, 12:58:22 PM
but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Unfortunately, teenagers often see the world differently than we, adults. They are full of naivety and maximalism. They want everything at once, and of course, this is immediately punished by the rules of the harsh adult world. Teenagers are ready to believe in fairy tales about quick money, but in reality, if no one warns them, they will be deceived. Gambling does not like the naive.
Most teenagers failed in gambling because of lack of experience and the curiosity to make fast profits from gambling.
The well experienced gamblers know that it's not everytime winnings come to them and they are always prepared for the time when things might not go as planned. Teenagers will always been influenced by streamers and would want to have similar results on what they are seeing without knowing that Many of these influencers are paid promoters of the gambling sites they are promoting online faking most of the winnings.

Therefore, we as friends and parents or relatives should have a strong influence on them. Those who are not indifferent to us. We should be more authorities in the eyes of our relatives teenagers than streamers who show their fake luck and try to sell it as a clean coin. To do this, you need to work on yourself and have the strongest self-control, as well as be an example of moral fortitude.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 28, 2024, 02:11:50 PM
These streamers do have a strategy to recycle money so as to stay in the game which they don't show to fans always and fans get stocked and rather addicted than winning.
The correct term is "commissions", and not recycled money.

These commissions are coming from those gamblers who signed up using their referral link. That's why most of the popular streamers right now have huge amounts of money in their gambling account. There's one famous streamer said in a podcast that "He's getting huge money from commissions, but he's still investing his own money in addition to the commissions that he's getting." He's not addicted at all, and he also is saying to the public that "If you can't afford to lose when gambling, don't gamble at all." He might be promoting gambling in his channel, but still, he's preventing his viewers to get addicted.

Getting addicted is our decision. We can watch them, but we will be the one to decide whether we will gamble like them, or you will just watch them win and be happy with their winnings.


The aftermath of gambling depends on the person himself, whether he will treat this as for fun/entertainment or will be addicted to it. However, users should be very careful on how they will go about this activity as gambling can easily make a person addicted to it. At the end of the day, it is the individual himself who can assess his situation and decide whether he will traverse the addiction or he can contain his gambling activities.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on October 29, 2024, 03:29:48 AM
It all depends on the individual's perspective. Although some streamers may use testnet accounts and have bigger wins that are not in the form of cash, which you cannot be sure of. But what is equally important is that the viewers themselves must be aware of this considering that these shows may not always represent the reality or perception of gambling.

Because people, especially younger people are easily influenced when they see big wins or games that look 'easy' in a stream. That's when it becomes the responsibility of each individual to be able to answer that it is just a show and the wins in the process may not be entirely honest or may have been rigged. Awareness not to get caught up in the illusion of big wins or instant promises must always be emphasized so that every viewer can make the right decision and not be carried away by the perception
I agree with you, it all depends on our own perspective on what gambling is like, if we ourselves take gambling seriously then we will consider the victory obtained by the streamer as a reality, whether it is reality or not what is clear is that taking gambling seriously will bring a stronger attraction. But I think when they gamble using a testnet account and using real money, doesn't it look different?

What you said is true, of course those who are new to gambling or those who are still young will be easily influenced by the big wins that appear on the screen they see and that is sometimes considered easy to get, unfortunately all of that is sometimes not so in accordance with reality when we do the same thing even though we imitate the strategy from the streamer.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2024, 07:17:03 AM
Yup, as after they collab or accept that deal with the casinos they already been paid as promoters and they don't think of anything else just the money that they will be collecting from their paychecks, if they are fuelling addiction there's nothing that they will about since doing such actions is for the person itself to control, but morality wise, knowing that there are audiences that following and watching you, being responsible should also be accounted.
The streamers only gives entertainment to audience and will not responsible to anything that will happen to them. It is the audience responsibility to always aware of the gambling addiction that can happen to them so they must not try to follow what the streamers do if they think they can not control themselves. But I agree that the streamers should have morality about what will happen to their audience so they should warn them that playing gambling needs control and don't playing gambling excessively or too often. They can say that be careful when you playing gambling and always manage your funds that you will use to playing gambling


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Furious 7 on October 29, 2024, 08:43:05 AM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction? I think it really depends on how a viewer responds to the shows made by the streamers, in the sense that if you misunderstand in responding to what and how gambling is shown by the streamers then of course in the end it is very possible for you to get addicted and experience various terrible things over time, while on the other hand if you really think that the big wins that the streamers get very easily are unreasonable then one day it is very possible for you to only treat gambling with the aim of seeking pleasure, so the conclusion is to always use a rational mindset every time you see something new that you find to minimize misunderstandings so that you are safe in the long run.
Streamers who gamble a lot live with many people watching are likely to have the goal of attracting or tempting many people to be interested and gamble at their casino, even though they don't show it, but indirectly they do it, because usually streamers show themselves getting wins that are quite surprising to many people who watch them. This is a natural thing.

Agree with what you said, whatever the streamer's goal will not affect the people who watch it if they are not serious about responding to it, viewers who take what the streamer does seriously usually will have a greater sense of interest, even though what the streamer does is actually a trick or manipulation, but for people like this they will take it seriously.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ricardo11 on October 29, 2024, 09:20:25 AM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction? I think it really depends on how a viewer responds to the shows made by the streamers, in the sense that if you misunderstand in responding to what and how gambling is shown by the streamers then of course in the end it is very possible for you to get addicted and experience various terrible things over time, while on the other hand if you really think that the big wins that the streamers get very easily are unreasonable then one day it is very possible for you to only treat gambling with the aim of seeking pleasure, so the conclusion is to always use a rational mindset every time you see something new that you find to minimize misunderstandings so that you are safe in the long run.
Streamers who gamble a lot live with many people watching are likely to have the goal of attracting or tempting many people to be interested and gamble at their casino, even though they don't show it, but indirectly they do it, because usually streamers show themselves getting wins that are quite surprising to many people who watch them. This is a natural thing.

Agree with what you said, whatever the streamer's goal will not affect the people who watch it if they are not serious about responding to it, viewers who take what the streamer does seriously usually will have a greater sense of interest, even though what the streamer does is actually a trick or manipulation, but for people like this they will take it seriously.
Each steamer actually highlights their wins most of the time, When streamers show their gambling, if they play 5 games they win 4 games and lose only one game. And the exciting moments of that victory create a fascination among the audience. Meanwhile, there are many viewers who keep themselves in check, do not take such videos seriously, and are not interested in imitating the tempting offers offered by those steamers. But there are some viewers who take it seriously, Seeing the victory of the steamers also arouses the spirit of gambling in their minds, watching the streams makes them want to gamble, and they also want to gamble the same way as those steamers. But they never think that, as entertaining as watching steamers win, gambling in real life is as risky. And afterwards they gambled after the manner of those steamers, and lost everything. And after losing everything then they regret.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 31, 2024, 02:28:45 PM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction?

Well, I personally think that a streamer's only aim is to have an audience and convince people to do what he says, what causes addiction? I don't think so, people have their own personality, addiction occurs because the person themselves allows it because they cannot control their impulses, their emotions dominate them and unfortunately they fall into addiction, for me a streamer does what he has to do to get everyone to do what he wants, that's what he works for and that's what casino sites, exchanges, among other things, hire him for, but we as thinking beings must be clear about what is good and what is bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Furious 7 on October 31, 2024, 03:14:00 PM
Streamers who gamble a lot live with many people watching are likely to have the goal of attracting or tempting many people to be interested and gamble at their casino, even though they don't show it, but indirectly they do it, because usually streamers show themselves getting wins that are quite surprising to many people who watch them. This is a natural thing.

Agree with what you said, whatever the streamer's goal will not affect the people who watch it if they are not serious about responding to it, viewers who take what the streamer does seriously usually will have a greater sense of interest, even though what the streamer does is actually a trick or manipulation, but for people like this they will take it seriously.
Each steamer actually highlights their wins most of the time, When streamers show their gambling, if they play 5 games they win 4 games and lose only one game. And the exciting moments of that victory create a fascination among the audience. Meanwhile, there are many viewers who keep themselves in check, do not take such videos seriously, and are not interested in imitating the tempting offers offered by those steamers. But there are some viewers who take it seriously, Seeing the victory of the steamers also arouses the spirit of gambling in their minds, watching the streams makes them want to gamble, and they also want to gamble the same way as those steamers. But they never think that, as entertaining as watching steamers win, gambling in real life is as risky. And afterwards they gambled after the manner of those steamers, and lost everything. And after losing everything then they regret.
Because in the end their goal (the streamers) does show it as their marketing considering that indirectly when they play one of the sites in plain sight of course we know that this is part of the marketing they run to attract new people so it is quite natural when they always show victory even actually drama that sometimes makes no sense with capital and bets that are too big to do without any guilt or regret at all when they lose.

So by looking at this, both people who are beginners in gambling or who already have experience should be aware that it is part of the marketing technique, it's just that when ambition and flow have been carried away they don't really think about it and try gambling from the same site even though the results we can definitely guess what it will be like.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on October 31, 2024, 06:16:01 PM
Yup, as after they collab or accept that deal with the casinos they already been paid as promoters and they don't think of anything else just the money that they will be collecting from their paychecks, if they are fuelling addiction there's nothing that they will about since doing such actions is for the person itself to control, but morality wise, knowing that there are audiences that following and watching you, being responsible should also be accounted.
The streamers only gives entertainment to audience and will not responsible to anything that will happen to them. It is the audience responsibility to always aware of the gambling addiction that can happen to them so they must not try to follow what the streamers do if they think they can not control themselves. But I agree that the streamers should have morality about what will happen to their audience so they should warn them that playing gambling needs control and don't playing gambling excessively or too often. They can say that be careful when you playing gambling and always manage your funds that you will use to playing gambling

Yeah, streamers can do that but like you mentioned it's the person itself that needed to control everything when he already involved into gambling, it's no longer in the hands of anyone when you put your feet inside this industry as you go deeper the risk is also getting higher, the influence of those streamers can lead you to learn or better to say that can lead you to be attracted with gambling but outside to that your involvement is on you, if you got addicted that's your own take and own responsibility


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 31, 2024, 07:50:46 PM
Yup, as after they collab or accept that deal with the casinos they already been paid as promoters and they don't think of anything else just the money that they will be collecting from their paychecks, if they are fuelling addiction there's nothing that they will about since doing such actions is for the person itself to control, but morality wise, knowing that there are audiences that following and watching you, being responsible should also be accounted.
The streamers only gives entertainment to audience and will not responsible to anything that will happen to them. It is the audience responsibility to always aware of the gambling addiction that can happen to them so they must not try to follow what the streamers do if they think they can not control themselves. But I agree that the streamers should have morality about what will happen to their audience so they should warn them that playing gambling needs control and don't playing gambling excessively or too often. They can say that be careful when you playing gambling and always manage your funds that you will use to playing gambling

Yeah, streamers can do that but like you mentioned it's the person itself that needed to control everything when he already involved into gambling, it's no longer in the hands of anyone when you put your feet inside this industry as you go deeper the risk is also getting higher, the influence of those streamers can lead you to learn or better to say that can lead you to be attracted with gambling but outside to that your involvement is on you, if you got addicted that's your own take and own responsibility
One of the things that could push you into gambling if you are really that a fan on trying out to look at with these things, it will really be that impossible that you cant be able to make yourself
that being hooked up on the moment that you do see these streamers specially if they would really be showcasing those huge wins on which you would really be having thoughts on trying out to
copy out on what are the current conditions or situations that they are into. There would really be those times or moments that you will be that desperately trying out to mimic into the things that they are really that been doing. Therefore, if you are that someone whose not that good when it comes to control and discipline then it will really be wise that you should really be stopping on trying out to copy
or watch these streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Akbarkoe on November 01, 2024, 05:41:33 PM
It all depends on the individual's perspective. Although some streamers may use testnet accounts and have bigger wins that are not in the form of cash, which you cannot be sure of. But what is equally important is that the viewers themselves must be aware of this considering that these shows may not always represent the reality or perception of gambling.

Because people, especially younger people are easily influenced when they see big wins or games that look 'easy' in a stream. That's when it becomes the responsibility of each individual to be able to answer that it is just a show and the wins in the process may not be entirely honest or may have been rigged. Awareness not to get caught up in the illusion of big wins or instant promises must always be emphasized so that every viewer can make the right decision and not be carried away by the perception
I agree with you, it all depends on our own perspective on what gambling is like, if we ourselves take gambling seriously then we will consider the victory obtained by the streamer as a reality, whether it is reality or not what is clear is that taking gambling seriously will bring a stronger attraction. But I think when they gamble using a testnet account and using real money, doesn't it look different?

What you said is true, of course those who are new to gambling or those who are still young will be easily influenced by the big wins that appear on the screen they see and that is sometimes considered easy to get, unfortunately all of that is sometimes not so in accordance with reality when we do the same thing even though we imitate the strategy from the streamer.
The difference may be there but some in this world can be fought or look more similar than what we see, this is a very sophisticated world, there are many ways that can be done to deceive people who are more stupid and not observant in their vision, sentences that are not too Complex but I think you can understand it.

In addition, marketers will also attract the attention of their consumers, especially those who easily make the bait spread out, like fish that are starving, even though you only store small bait in your fishing hook, they will eat it. ;)


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Forsyth Jones on November 01, 2024, 09:47:17 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on November 01, 2024, 11:39:41 PM
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.
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Perhaps that is because there are some countries working on legislation for streamers, influencers and other internet personalities to openly disclose whether they have some business relationship with the products they display or talk about in their videos, reels or post on the internet. I recall back in the day those famous people just casually started to talk about products in their videos without clearing out they were the owner of the companies which produced them or gave the service, nowadays if you go to YouTube you will find they all need to call those companies "sponsors" for their videos and content. Something similar could be done when comes to gambling and celebrities which happen to heavily advertise betting houses.
It is not wrong per se to have  gambling service and advertising it yourself, using your own fame to make your business to go up, but one needs to have a minimum degree of transparency with the public.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: GreatArkansas on November 03, 2024, 05:13:59 AM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This is not surprising anymore as these popular personalities are the most prone to this, easy advertisement because of how famous they are especially now social media are now popular also they can easily get a lot of people by just promoting it on social media. That's the power of social media also, some are using it in wrong or criminal way.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: dunfida on November 03, 2024, 06:40:06 AM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This is not surprising anymore as these popular personalities are the most prone to this, easy advertisement because of how famous they are especially now social media are now popular also they can easily get a lot of people by just promoting it on social media. That's the power of social media also, some are using it in wrong or criminal way.
We are now living on an era on which we are already that accessibility and other correlated things on which information could really be seen and transferred out without any hiccups and since each person does have their own smartphone or mobile then they would really be that prone or that expose into different information or things on which this isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other things as well.
Are they fueling that potential addiction? Yes, but actually its up to someone on how they would gonna deal up with things because we are all exposed into different things online. Whether you are really dealing into it
or avoiding also. Its not bad to make out some engagement with gambling as long  you do make yourself that responsible with your actions. Promoting at the same time they are earning money on which simply means that they are really that on a win-win situation into this one because they are really that able to make money at the same time they are enjoying their time on pushing those buttons.
Slot gaming is really that actually enjoyable if you do really just that know on how to be responsible into the actions that you are making and not really making yourself getting addicted in the end.
The main issue on here is that people do really either get addicted or not on the things that they've been dealing on with. There are ones who are really that good on controlling and being simply responsible
but there are ones who do really totally forgot on doing the viable things on which they would really be needing up to consider on.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mammusu on November 03, 2024, 08:14:17 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
The situation in your country shows the importance of strict regulation and transparency in the gambling industry, so country does not get conceded in acts like those of that the celebrities, maybe being a streamer of a gambling site will not get a severe punishment, but if he is involved in a betting house and there is potential manipulation to money laundering, of course he will most likely spend the rest of his life in prison,  No different from the one in your country, my country actually prohibits gambling completely so for those who gamble must fully use a VPN to open gambling sites, even if there are celebrities, public figures and even influencers who promote gambling then not only his account will be closed but it is likely that he will get a severe punishment for that the violation.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 03, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This also happens in my country, besides that I often find celebrity accounts that do promote their sites with photos of other people's wins because of their advice to gamble on their site, also with people whose brains are only big enough to think about their wins will try to gamble at the casino they advertise with the aim of course wanting to win like other people who managed to win and then tell the celebrity because they have managed to win and that is used as proof that the site is as if it is easy to give wins to its players but I doubt this.
In addition, there are also cases where several people were arrested by the authorities for promoting gambling sites that are actually prohibited in my country, and until now there are still people like that, whether they don't know about the news of other people being caught promoting gambling or don't care about it at all, but I think they know about the news. And others that I don't understand where their profits from promoting the site come from? whether the site pays them or not I don't know for sure.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mirakal on November 03, 2024, 09:23:27 AM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction?

Well, I personally think that a streamer's only aim is to have an audience and convince people to do what he says, what causes addiction? I don't think so, people have their own personality, addiction occurs because the person themselves allows it because they cannot control their impulses, their emotions dominate them and unfortunately they fall into addiction, for me a streamer does what he has to do to get everyone to do what he wants, that's what he works for and that's what casino sites, exchanges, among other things, hire him for, but we as thinking beings must be clear about what is good and what is bad.

I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Gheka on November 03, 2024, 10:10:13 AM
Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction?

Well, I personally think that a streamer's only aim is to have an audience and convince people to do what he says, what causes addiction? I don't think so, people have their own personality, addiction occurs because the person themselves allows it because they cannot control their impulses, their emotions dominate them and unfortunately they fall into addiction, for me a streamer does what he has to do to get everyone to do what he wants, that's what he works for and that's what casino sites, exchanges, among other things, hire him for, but we as thinking beings must be clear about what is good and what is bad.

I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
On the viewer side, it's their fault that they are too easily mesmerized by a streamer, unable to be convinced by a stranger in just one broadcast, agree that streamers are potentially harming their fans but the fault cannot be entirely on the streamer. As for the gambling streamers, they are using their attraction to make others lose their basic risk awareness, although it is somewhat irresponsible and unethical, but don't forget, they also need to be responsible to the sponsor, so to be fair, in order for both sides to be in harmony and not judge the responsibility, it is better to post more information and warnings when participating in gambling, this reminder is enough for viewers to be aware of the problem they are watching.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 03, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
On the viewer side, it's their fault that they are too easily mesmerized by a streamer, unable to be convinced by a stranger in just one broadcast, agree that streamers are potentially harming their fans but the fault cannot be entirely on the streamer. As for the gambling streamers, they are using their attraction to make others lose their basic risk awareness, although it is somewhat irresponsible and unethical, but don't forget, they also need to be responsible to the sponsor, so to be fair, in order for both sides to be in harmony and not judge the responsibility, it is better to post more information and warnings when participating in gambling, this reminder is enough for viewers to be aware of the problem they are watching.
That is why we must responsible with what we watch from social media and not jus believe or follow what they say. We can research to find out more about what they say so we can avoids for making mistake. We as audience must be careful with the streamer because they can say many things that can makes us tempting to try to playing gambling. The streamer can attract people who watch their videos by sharing their winning to them and say that they can wins much money from the casino. People who can not think clear about responsible will follow without research. Those people can get in a trap by difficult to leave the casino once they have fun because they feels that gambling can be one of their activities in their spare time.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2024, 11:40:27 AM
They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on November 03, 2024, 11:41:00 AM
I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
I agree. This is whenever someone asks me about gambling and how I win in sports betting, I don't give them anything. I don't want to be the reason for them to gamble and I don't want to be blamed in the future for introducing them to gambling.

I've seen streamers who are even using comparison strategies just to tell other people that one online casino is better at giving back or making them win but we all know it's all just an advertisement to urge them to play. The truth is it's either a scam that won't let us withdraw after a win, or they are part of the team that made him win on purpose to make it more inviting to players.
Online casinos are not charities that will just let every gambler win, there's always a dark story behind every streamer's advertising.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: swogerino on November 03, 2024, 01:39:55 PM
They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.

Well they can instill in you the desire to emulate their successes and this means that in a certain way they can affect your choices, you want to emulate their success and this leads to losing a lot more money than maybe you intended to. Of course they are not responsible for your choices and decisions but indirectly they affect the behavior of the people who follow them. In my case I have self-excluded my account from the casino I retain the most dangerous when it comes to losing money and the way you are losing money but most people do not stay loyal to this self-exclusion and immediately are back, so if anyone is feeling that he is being affected by the choices he makes a good idea is to stop following these gambling streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2024, 01:46:37 PM
They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.

Well they can instill in you the desire to emulate their successes and this means that in a certain way they can affect your choices, you want to emulate their success and this leads to losing a lot more money than maybe you intended to. Of course they are not responsible for your choices and decisions but indirectly they affect the behavior of the people who follow them. In my case I have self-excluded my account from the casino I retain the most dangerous when it comes to losing money and the way you are losing money but most people do not stay loyal to this self-exclusion and immediately are back, so if anyone is feeling that he is being affected by the choices he makes a good idea is to stop following these gambling streamers.
It's important to know our limits or else we will regret our choices not in gambling but in our entire life. I practice being a responsible gambler even though I play on casual occasions not just on day to day basis. Internet is filled with all kind of manipulation so it's our responsible to stay focused on what we are supposed to do, and this may comes after learned the lesson in hard way.

Developing these kind of mindset will give control over impulses and help with decision making when it comes to our life aspects.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: vs2014 on November 03, 2024, 01:59:25 PM
A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bettercrypto on November 03, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.

You know sometimes I feel envious of other streamers who have millions of followers who make way for them to be offered by other online casinos just to promote their gambling platform in exchange for a large fee.

Then the only thing they will do in exchange for paying them is to promote it because they will be given a demo account just to make their promotion of the casino in their livestream realistic.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 03, 2024, 07:27:30 PM
A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.

You know sometimes I feel envious of other streamers who have millions of followers who make way for them to be offered by other online casinos just to promote their gambling platform in exchange for a large fee.

Then the only thing they will do in exchange for paying them is to promote it because they will be given a demo account just to make their promotion of the casino in their livestream realistic.

To make it more looks like realistic casino may give them access to the site it will be more convincing if they will show that they've got real account and they really playing, with those millions of subscribers and followers they can easily attracts people who also have engagement with gambling, especially those who often watch their videos, those people will think that there's possibilities that the patterns or strategy that the streamers are using might also works for them.

They might experienced some winning but eventually they'll be hook and make a deeper engagements turning them addicted if they unable to control their own lust and desires.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 07, 2024, 10:33:09 PM

I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.

I think that every person should make a living doing jobs like those of a streamer, but be honest and always put a warning, the game can make you addicted and you should avoid it, that is something that is very responsible, however telling lies like you say that there are people who say they always win or something to make advertising, that is very bad and unacceptable, in fact I am one of those who think that if you try to harm someone, that harm at some point in life is returned, and that is something that happens, so you have to know how to do advertising, know how to warn people and with that you can do a better job and you earn a very good reputation.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: uneng on November 07, 2024, 10:53:58 PM
I think that every person should make a living doing jobs like those of a streamer, but be honest and always put a warning, the game can make you addicted and you should avoid it, that is something that is very responsible, however telling lies like you say that there are people who say they always win or something to make advertising, that is very bad and unacceptable, in fact I am one of those who think that if you try to harm someone, that harm at some point in life is returned, and that is something that happens, so you have to know how to do advertising, know how to warn people and with that you can do a better job and you earn a very good reputation.
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Silberman on November 08, 2024, 06:36:24 PM
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: asyakashi on November 08, 2024, 08:43:09 PM
Influencers who promote gambling will cause negative things to many people, both beginners and seniors, because when we watch them, we think it will be very easy to win the game like they do, it is better to avoid influencer accounts that promote gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 10, 2024, 02:22:21 PM
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.

Exactly, as they use their popularity to gain the attentions of those people who are following them, it's the advantage that they've got especially those who already established their names and casino owners are willing to pay them decently knowing that they can gain from those visits and  logins coming from people who got attracted thingking that the streamers knows well and they have thta credibility to advertise, the name link to the house get the trust from people who support and idolized those streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Doan9269 on November 10, 2024, 02:44:44 PM
We should not be more focused on what we see others do in gambling because at the end, we are going to realize that everyone is only working for his own interest and don't want to consider what others may be going through by what they are promoting or doing, gambling streamers are not promoting addiction, because gambling itself can be addictive if the gambler is not taking measures to avoid getting over it too much, there are things expected of us to do in ensuring that the way we are gambling is not being affected by us, if it does, then we have to retrace our steps and have a review on how we are gambling, no one causes addiction on us if we do not do it by ourselves.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Accardo on November 10, 2024, 03:19:57 PM
We should not be more focused on what we see others do in gambling because at the end, we are going to realize that everyone is only working for his own interest and don't want to consider what others may be going through by what they are promoting or doing, gambling streamers are not promoting addiction, because gambling itself can be addictive if the gambler is not taking measures to avoid getting over it too much, there are things expected of us to do in ensuring that the way we are gambling is not being affected by us, if it does, then we have to retrace our steps and have a review on how we are gambling, no one causes addiction on us if we do not do it by ourselves.

Those streamers are sound and aware of the type of effects or reaction they need from their viewers. Promoting on live streams a consistent gambling habit  would lure some naive players to think it's the right form of gambling that actually made the influencers to always win. Hence viewers with little experience may abstain from seeing the promoters play.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on November 10, 2024, 04:21:13 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Streamers promote these gambling platforms purely for financial incentives, and it’s a troubling trend. By showcasing gambling as entertaining or profitable, they create a false impression that encourages viewers to participate without understanding the risks (that's when minors are very vulnerable). Gambling, especially in online casinos, is not a reliable way to earn passive income, it often leads to significant financial loss.

These platforms are designed to keep players hooked while the odds remain heavily stacked in favor of the owner of the online casino. As more people fall for the illusion of easy money, the real winners are usually the platforms and the influencers who profit from these sponsorships, while viewers are left facing the consequences. Sad but it's currently the situation here in the Philippines.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 13, 2024, 02:00:30 AM
At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 13, 2024, 07:16:17 AM
At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.
That is because people also wants their lives like their idol so they will follow whatever their idol do. But that will not happen to those people as their lives will not be the same as their idols. If they watch influencers showing their video when playing gambling and follow that without thinking much, they will see that they only lose their money without have a big chance to win. Gambling streamers only promoting fun and the site so people must be wise when watch their videos and not just follows without searching for more information.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 13, 2024, 07:42:17 AM
At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.
That is because people also wants their lives like their idol so they will follow whatever their idol do. But that will not happen to those people as their lives will not be the same as their idols. If they watch influencers showing their video when playing gambling and follow that without thinking much, they will see that they only lose their money without have a big chance to win. Gambling streamers only promoting fun and the site so people must be wise when watch their videos and not just follows without searching for more information.
We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble.  They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: madnessteat on November 13, 2024, 08:15:46 AM
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I absolutely agree with you. Many people do not understand why they are inspired by this or that idol, so they stop thinking critically, repeating his activity. We love our idols not because they gamble and not for what they are like in life. Most of us fall in love only with the image of an idol, which in fact turns out to be just a veil hiding their true personality. And in fact, each of us must learn to distinguish advertising from the real content that is made for people.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 13, 2024, 10:07:59 AM
We should not be more focused on what we see others do in gambling because at the end, we are going to realize that everyone is only working for his own interest and don't want to consider what others may be going through by what they are promoting or doing, gambling streamers are not promoting addiction, because gambling itself can be addictive if the gambler is not taking measures to avoid getting over it too much, there are things expected of us to do in ensuring that the way we are gambling is not being affected by us, if it does, then we have to retrace our steps and have a review on how we are gambling, no one causes addiction on us if we do not do it by ourselves.

Those streamers are sound and aware of the type of effects or reaction they need from their viewers. Promoting on live streams a consistent gambling habit  would lure some naive players to think it's the right form of gambling that actually made the influencers to always win. Hence viewers with little experience may abstain from seeing the promoters play.

Exactly those who are fanatics and a real follower might think that influencers are really trying to help them winning, but the sole intentions is to gain the attention and bring those clicks and referrals to earn decently, those who got a little experienced might learn things the hard ways as they might lose a lot before they realize that it's more about money and the streamers don't care about them.

Just purely trying to lure those viewers to use their referrals and use the platform that they are promoting to gamble and play.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Woodie on November 13, 2024, 11:28:02 AM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.
The motive of using streamers with huge followings is to tap in those numbers &  help in brand awareness and get more customers on board for the purpose of having fun which is the primary goal,  anything that follows is secondary and as adults you are expected to have the self control to avoid falling into the trap of gambling addiction..which is why self exclusion is available on some well established casinos/Sportsbook if you fell you need a time out.

It would be unfair to say the fueling addiction, when we all know greed fuels addiction!!!

Remember gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 13, 2024, 12:57:49 PM
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.

Exactly, as they use their popularity to gain the attentions of those people who are following them, it's the advantage that they've got especially those who already established their names and casino owners are willing to pay them decently knowing that they can gain from those visits and  logins coming from people who got attracted thingking that the streamers knows well and they have thta credibility to advertise, the name link to the house get the trust from people who support and idolized those streamers.
From the reason you stated alone, we have enough reasons we should beware of streamers but focus on reality. This age is not the one we should lose our guard about, what we hear or even see on social media is deceit now, no one can be trusted, they are just influencing and collecting their money. The choice is ours though, even if we opt for any services due to some conviction and performance, we should start cautiously. Nothing is wrong in starting a little and if it is going south, do not hesitate to quit, it could be a trap.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 14, 2024, 06:49:02 AM
We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble.  They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.
So that is why we must be careful when watching the streamers because they can lure us easily and makes us follow what they say. Only with a strong handling over ourselves that will help us to stay away from what they offers and only enjoy their videos as an entertainment. We don't want to gets deeper in gambling so we just watch their video and will not tempting to follow what they say.

Those streamers make much money from what they gives to their follower. So they will still gives other videos that show their winning to attract more attention from their followers. We as an audience must be wise when watching their videos and will not attract to follow them. We know that gambling will not gives the money easily instead will take our money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 14, 2024, 07:08:21 AM
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I absolutely agree with you. Many people do not understand why they are inspired by this or that idol, so they stop thinking critically, repeating his activity. We love our idols not because they gamble and not for what they are like in life. Most of us fall in love only with the image of an idol, which in fact turns out to be just a veil hiding their true personality. And in fact, each of us must learn to distinguish advertising from the real content that is made for people.
I count it as being childish and foolish to regard a person as an idol and mimick every thing you see that person do or try to be just the same as the image or personality they portray themselves to be. This is how so many in our societies are deceived into acts they ordinarily should not get themselves involved in simply because it's an act they think their idol is into..

It's just like an actor who is always very good when he plays the role of a criminal in his movies, and someone watching decided to become a criminal in real life because that what he or she watch his or her idol do in movies, they completely forget that movies is far different from reality, and that in reality, that actor is not a criminal but only an actor and he is paid to do what ever he does.

In the same vain, it is wrong to follow the steps of gambling streamers, for it is possible that they are paid to promote the casino they are gambling on, and those wins that happen while they are streaming live have already been arranged.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: milewilda on November 14, 2024, 07:21:27 AM
We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble.  They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.
So that is why we must be careful when watching the streamers because they can lure us easily and makes us follow what they say. Only with a strong handling over ourselves that will help us to stay away from what they offers and only enjoy their videos as an entertainment. We don't want to gets deeper in gambling so we just watch their video and will not tempting to follow what they say.

Those streamers make much money from what they gives to their follower. So they will still gives other videos that show their winning to attract more attention from their followers. We as an audience must be wise when watching their videos and will not attract to follow them. We know that gambling will not gives the money easily instead will take our money.
When you are really just that sensible into the things that happening around then you wont really be that making yourself that get easily addicted with gambling. You could really be able to adjust accordingly and as long you would really be that mindful about on whats happening and on the moment you've seen that you are gradually becoming that addicted, then this is the time that you would be making out some adjustment.
There would really be those individuals that do easily that getting boosted up whenever they do see someone who do make money and do make out engagement and lose up their control just because they've been expecting that too much. It isnt really that bad on having that kind of engagement with gambling but of course you will really be needing that self control and moderation.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on making up some exposure into a certain gambling site or any service. As long they are getting paid and do the job done then its something
that bring out that good income to them. They dont care nor mind into the people who are really that dealing with addiction because of what they do saw.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 14, 2024, 08:30:27 AM
Their main goal is to attract many people to gamble at the casino they promote, with the fun still making sense and if it's about addiction or making it addictive it seems more about each individual's problem about how their mindset is in terms of gambling, if they really think gambling can make them money then addiction is something that will definitely happen with a big possibility that cannot be avoided. Meanwhile, for people who already understand the concept of gambling, they will not be easily attracted to what the streamers do, get, and say. Because the big reality is that it is likely just manipulation to make the casino have many visitors. However, what the casino does is not wrong because this is a business so they have to develop it in various ways that can currently be utilized, one of which is by hiring people who have great popularity, of course that can make the casino crowded with visitors.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 14, 2024, 06:39:07 PM
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.

Exactly, as they use their popularity to gain the attentions of those people who are following them, it's the advantage that they've got especially those who already established their names and casino owners are willing to pay them decently knowing that they can gain from those visits and  logins coming from people who got attracted thingking that the streamers knows well and they have thta credibility to advertise, the name link to the house get the trust from people who support and idolized those streamers.
From the reason you stated alone, we have enough reasons we should beware of streamers but focus on reality. This age is not the one we should lose our guard about, what we hear or even see on social media is deceit now, no one can be trusted, they are just influencing and collecting their money. The choice is ours though, even if we opt for any services due to some conviction and performance, we should start cautiously. Nothing is wrong in starting a little and if it is going south, do not hesitate to quit, it could be a trap.

Indeed, with all those available information online it's up to us to decide, those we seen being shared online are mostly for ads to attract potential clients, the services of those streamers are for their own benefits and nothing else, and just to point it out gambling is a game of risk plus the fact that casinos are business.

They'll never hire and pay to simply promote but they are more on the side where deeper connections are already established and those streamers capabilities to influence people to sign up and use their services.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: swogerino on November 14, 2024, 06:46:45 PM
Gambling streamers be aware from these type of people. Keep in mind that it is 100% not random outcome when they are playing and this is something I have no way to proof except all gamblers in all chats of the casinos I play agree on this, they are not using random outcomes, something is fishy about them, how come those people keep hit those huge wins while other people who play even more money than them do not have a chance to hit the max win in quite a much longer time span, that says a lot doesn't it ?

They are just fueling addiction as they don't care for you, you want of course to emulate their success but good luck with that, by doing so you have guaranteed lost sessions, consecutive ones I would dare say, so please do yourself a favor and stop following such people, I have clicked unfollow on every one of them, they made me lose a lot of times.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: livingfree on November 14, 2024, 07:37:13 PM
The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

So, if a gambling streamer keeps on doing that, he's up for it for a living and that's his main niche to start with. But if a fan starts to get that feeling of addiction, there's a need to contain and stop that at least when it's starting to show some signs.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Kavelj22 on November 14, 2024, 07:43:28 PM
These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: serjent05 on November 14, 2024, 08:12:02 PM
These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

Obviously people who followed gambling streamers are gambler themselves.  A person would not find entertainment from these gambling streamers if they were not into gambling.  I believe Gambling streamers are promoting the casino primarily, the fun part is secondary. And whether it fuels gambling addiction depends on the audience's control so I think the fueling addiction is subjective.


The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

Streamers are up for income not for fun, that is the reality that I believe.  I also think that there are not ignorant about the fact that their action has huge effect on their viewers that is why some of the gambling streamers often reminds about responsible gambling.

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But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

True that, we are responsible for our actions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: boyptc on November 14, 2024, 08:35:24 PM
These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?
It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on November 14, 2024, 08:49:50 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 14, 2024, 08:53:56 PM


But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Yes, I am one of those who say that streamers do promotional broadcasts using fake accounts or accounts that have been provided by the casino, which accounts have been set up behind the scenes so that the chances of winning are high in any type of game that will be played by the streamers, I think the reason is clear that it doesn't make sense to see big wins that are very easy for these streamers to get, plus they do it like they don't feel any tension even though it is clear that they are betting with high stakes.

So with those who bet without feeling tense at all, I think that can be used as one reason to say that yes they bet using fake accounts where all the money in the account is fake money. On the other hand, as we know, how difficult it is to win, especially in casino games and that means the big wins that streamers achieve are unrealistic


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: xLays on November 14, 2024, 09:13:32 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Blackhacker1027 on November 14, 2024, 09:23:27 PM
I agree with you on this. Majority of this streamer are into high stake which if it’s turns out well, it will really be a thing of joy ‘em. And if we are to talk bout their, it’s not gonna be an easy ride for those who’ve got no big room in heart to bear the loses. Being a streamer and a gambler one has to expect the unexpected in every step.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Raflesia on November 14, 2024, 09:31:07 PM

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

It seems like this kind of thing has become an open secret especially when you see some streamers who like to introduce the name of the site just to attract attention, it is very natural that suspicions will arise where they will stream gambling and always win which makes this absurd.

As for the addiction problem, this depends on the viewers because sometimes in some conditions there are those who consider this just as entertainment so in the end they are not too interested in this kind of condition but it cannot be denied that some will definitely be trapped by marketing techniques like this.
It should be realized that these streamers only work for the promotion of the sites they play so this is just a professional form of work but many people are still naive enough to consider this a reality. Although not all streams do it with accounts that have been set up because there are definitely some who use real accounts but in the end the majority of gambling streamers all have the same goal in my opinion where they must have collaborated with several sites that will be considered by viewers as friendly sites and assume that if you play there you will get benefits quickly.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: livingfree on November 14, 2024, 09:34:49 PM
The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

Streamers are up for income not for fun, that is the reality that I believe.  I also think that there are not ignorant about the fact that their action has huge effect on their viewers that is why some of the gambling streamers often reminds about responsible gambling.
It's true that they are up for income but as you can see that most of them are just enjoying it. So it is an incentivized way for them to have fun and so the income follows their passion because they've earned it.

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But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

True that, we are responsible for our actions.
I think that if someone goes to a random gambling streamer, there is a chance that you'll see some viewers blaming the streamers on how they've ended up losing their fortune.

Losing their composure and how they have became addicted, they can't stand against themselves for blaming their own actions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: aylabadia05 on November 14, 2024, 09:36:19 PM
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I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.
Personally, I can say that the wins that streamer gets can trigger my desire to gamble in the same way or style as them. Many gamblers try to find ways to win and usually the winning strategy can be obtained from watching streamers play or in other ways. Honestly, they can influence the interest of many viewers in gambling, especially if those watching them are gamblers who are looking for ways to win bets.

Streamers can be called influencers who can ultimately influence the interest of anyone who watches their games. Casinos work with these people to get more traffic from gamblers, but not all streamers are paid or sponsored by the casino. Some of them play for fun, others are paid to influence others.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ultrloa on November 14, 2024, 09:38:59 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.

I guess we would know if they are sponsored if they have ads on their streams. For sure we will never get any substance by those streamers paid by the casino to streams their live. Since for sure that they would hype those casino and provably would not care about how their follow ends up. This is how they fuel their interest to gamble since this is their intention to gather more people to sign up on their links and hype the site they are promoting.

Also those people who doesn't have ads and just enjoying their games by streaming and communicating to people watching their stream I guess they are the one who's fun to watch with since provably we can see the real excitement since everything in their game session is random.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Miles2006 on November 14, 2024, 09:55:09 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.
Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice. IMO they earn their money and play games some might be false will others play with real amount, unknowingly they’re promoting addiction which i don’t support. Observe carefully addicted gamblers are the ones who chase after gambling streams meaning they’re already addicted, I can’t remember the last time I spent my time watching gambling stream and i don’t find it 100% good at same time you’ll get tempted playing their games but no win guarantee.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 15, 2024, 03:48:16 AM
When you are really just that sensible into the things that happening around then you wont really be that making yourself that get easily addicted with gambling. You could really be able to adjust accordingly and as long you would really be that mindful about on whats happening and on the moment you've seen that you are gradually becoming that addicted, then this is the time that you would be making out some adjustment.
There would really be those individuals that do easily that getting boosted up whenever they do see someone who do make money and do make out engagement and lose up their control just because they've been expecting that too much. It isnt really that bad on having that kind of engagement with gambling but of course you will really be needing that self control and moderation.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on making up some exposure into a certain gambling site or any service. As long they are getting paid and do the job done then its something
that bring out that good income to them. They dont care nor mind into the people who are really that dealing with addiction because of what they do saw.
You are right because with having that thing, we can take care of ourselves and we will not trying to do something before we research for furthermore. We will thinks about the risk behind of that so we will not in rush when decide. And if we already do that but we see the chance for us to become addicted to gambling, we will trying to reduce or even stops ourselves from playing gambling and will distract our minds from gambling for a while.

We don't want to be addicted to gambling so we will do many ways and make sure that we can stay away from the gambling addiction. We will remember that gambling is just an entertainment and when we watch the streamers, that is because we want to know how they play but we don't think to follow what they do because that will be too risk for us.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 15, 2024, 10:00:40 AM
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I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.
Personally, I can say that the wins that streamer gets can trigger my desire to gamble in the same way or style as them. Many gamblers try to find ways to win and usually the winning strategy can be obtained from watching streamers play or in other ways. Honestly, they can influence the interest of many viewers in gambling, especially if those watching them are gamblers who are looking for ways to win bets.

Streamers can be called influencers who can ultimately influence the interest of anyone who watches their games. Casinos work with these people to get more traffic from gamblers, but not all streamers are paid or sponsored by the casino. Some of them play for fun, others are paid to influence others.
It cannot be denied of course when we see a streamer get a big win, it does make us want to gamble too, the purpose of which is to be the same as the streamer who can get a big win, well for those who I think are still new to gambling they will think that they can be the same as the streamer by making a deposit and playing and then getting a big win, but for people who are experienced I think they won't care too much about what happens to the streamer, even if a big win happens it won't make them want to chase the win by gambling.
You are right, not all streamers work with casinos, some are just for fun or to seek their own popularity in this way, because now that many people are interested in gambling, of course there is a possibility that they can increase their popularity by gambling, especially if they can make their audience comfortable with their fun delivery.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: taufik123 on November 15, 2024, 12:35:07 PM
I think that if someone goes to a random gambling streamer, there is a chance that you'll see some viewers blaming the streamers on how they've ended up losing their fortune.

Losing their composure and how they have became addicted, they can't stand against themselves for blaming their own actions.
Even though there have been warnings about how the loss experienced will be your own responsibility, not because of other people or streamers.
Streamers only cooperate with gambling to promote their gambling and of course the winnings that streamers get are not purely because the system has set them up.

It's a common practice, but some beginners who see streamers earning millions of dollars from their gambling will automatically be triggered to get into gambling with the big money they have, without doing their research first.

Promoting fun or triggering addiction depends on who sees and who does it, because no one will be responsible for the loss caused by the spectacle given by the streamer.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on November 15, 2024, 01:07:11 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.
Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice. IMO they earn their money and play games some might be false will others play with real amount, unknowingly they’re promoting addiction which i don’t support. Observe carefully addicted gamblers are the ones who chase after gambling streams meaning they’re already addicted, I can’t remember the last time I spent my time watching gambling stream and i don’t find it 100% good at same time you’ll get tempted playing their games but no win guarantee.
Sometimes it's not a choice anymore. We are too hooked on watching streamers and envy what they won or the results of their games so we took our game to another level without even thinking about the effects of it in the future. Some gamblers won't even realize they are gambling addicts now and all they know is that they still enjoy playing or they are not done chasing their losses.
Although I don't believe that streamers should be blamed when one gambler gets addicted or the culprit for putting more wood in the fire. A gambler using his own common sense should realize that those could be fakes and they are winning most of the time because they are planted there and all they will do is show the public their wins even though it's not real money. We won't be able to mimic them because somehow it's all scripted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mirakal on November 15, 2024, 02:10:50 PM
Sometimes it's not a choice anymore. We are too hooked on watching streamers and envy what they won or the results of their games so we took our game to another level without even thinking about the effects of it in the future. Some gamblers won't even realize they are gambling addicts now and all they know is that they still enjoy playing or they are not done chasing their losses.
Although I don't believe that streamers should be blamed when one gambler gets addicted or the culprit for putting more wood in the fire. A gambler using his own common sense should realize that those could be fakes and they are winning most of the time because they are planted there and all they will do is show the public their wins even though it's not real money. We won't be able to mimic them because somehow it's all scripted.
Absolutely, gamblers are fully responsible for their own actions rather than blaming influencers, because in the end, it’s our decision to follow what they say. Money can definitely influence people, especially when streamers show off huge winnings. We might feel like they misled us, but the real question is: why don't we stop ourselves if we knew that is wrong? If we’ve become addicted to gambling, it’s likely because we allowed it, not because someone else led us there.

But on the other side, streamers also have some responsibility, knowing there are young audiences watching them, which means they need to be careful in their doings as well.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 15, 2024, 03:47:43 PM

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.
Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice.

I think we should not forget one thing in this case which is not everyone knows and realizes that the activity has the potential to make them addicted, meaning addiction is not a matter of choice when we talk about someone who really does not know that gambling has the potential to make someone addicted, I think it might be right to say that addiction is something that happens without the person realizing it, and this is also one of the reasons why overcoming addiction problems is very difficult, none other than because they do not realize that they are already trapped in a cycle of addiction that endangers their lives.

On the other hand, as we know how bad the impacts that can be caused when someone is addicted and logically who wants to experience a downturn in their life? no one, so it is impossible for someone to intentionally do anything that can lead to addiction unless they do not know and realize that the impact of their actions can make them addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Kavelj22 on November 15, 2024, 06:22:27 PM
These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?
It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

Watching streamers play in casinos has a significant impact on the behavior of viewers, especially young people. The direct marketing of live gaming creates a false sense of ease and quick wins, which may encourage some to try gambling for themselves. Additionally, gambling is often portrayed as an exciting and lucrative lifestyle, which increases its appeal to young people.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 15, 2024, 07:41:03 PM
These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?
It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

Watching streamers play in casinos has a significant impact on the behavior of viewers, especially young people. The direct marketing of live gaming creates a false sense of ease and quick wins, which may encourage some to try gambling for themselves. Additionally, gambling is often portrayed as an exciting and lucrative lifestyle, which increases its appeal to young people.

Indeed, with those kind of luxurious lifestyle they managed to influence people who are following them, given those streams videos about winning and enjoying those luxurious lifestyle surely divert the attention of those avid followers, they all being trick by a kind of gesture that the streamers are portraying, with good results from the stream videos it attracts young minds that wanted to aim that same outcomes.

They bring the attention and they will get something good from people who believe and trusting them, though they are just aiming for the money but they're manage to gain that connection from their viewers .


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Odusko on November 15, 2024, 07:48:29 PM
Fun and addictions goes hand in hand and for sure this situation of gambling streemers, what they does and how it affects their viewers is somewhat very important for us to discuss about, but the main point of things is that we also have to understand they stands in this whole thing, from the casino point of view, streemers are they advertiser's and they work is to attract gambler's into the casino, and for sure whatever the results of they activities is on the audience is really not of great concern to them so long as they deliver the desired traffic to the casino it's all good for the casino, and on the other hand the streemers aim is to get paid at the end of each video session.

On the side of the viewers, I think they need to create that gap and build the understanding that will guide them while having fun following the streemer video or playing game's and to avoid addictions along the line, so it all up to the viewers not to get carried away and become addicts, gambling is all for fun and nothing more but with fun comes possible addictions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: livingfree on November 15, 2024, 10:44:11 PM
I think that if someone goes to a random gambling streamer, there is a chance that you'll see some viewers blaming the streamers on how they've ended up losing their fortune.

Losing their composure and how they have became addicted, they can't stand against themselves for blaming their own actions.
Even though there have been warnings about how the loss experienced will be your own responsibility, not because of other people or streamers.
Streamers only cooperate with gambling to promote their gambling and of course the winnings that streamers get are not purely because the system has set them up.

It's a common practice, but some beginners who see streamers earning millions of dollars from their gambling will automatically be triggered to get into gambling with the big money they have, without doing their research first.

Promoting fun or triggering addiction depends on who sees and who does it, because no one will be responsible for the loss caused by the spectacle given by the streamer.
That is true, most of them if not all are setup accounts and they're given to entice people that gambling on that particular casino they are streaming can be lucrative because that's how the streamer is able to win.

But other than that, it's all about the actual results and we all know and aware of the quote, 'the house always wins'.

This quote is never told by the streamers because they have also to track the registers that they're bringing to the casino that they are sponsored with.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: boyptc on November 15, 2024, 11:15:36 PM
It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

Watching streamers play in casinos has a significant impact on the behavior of viewers, especially young people. The direct marketing of live gaming creates a false sense of ease and quick wins, which may encourage some to try gambling for themselves. Additionally, gambling is often portrayed as an exciting and lucrative lifestyle, which increases its appeal to young people.
I agree.

This hits more the younger generation. And those that have become addicted at their mid-age or adults and professionals, you ask them and the majority of them have became a gambler once then when they were younger.

But then when they grew older and have the occupation and money, that's how they're enjoying things that they cannot afford before. As for these younger generation, they've got a lot of opportunities nowadays so they can be hook for as long as they can and easily without having that much to be worried with money.

The influence for decision making is easier on them because they have younger minds and lesser experience in life and gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: rachael9385 on November 16, 2024, 02:31:06 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Kavelj22 on November 16, 2024, 02:48:12 PM
It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

Watching streamers play in casinos has a significant impact on the behavior of viewers, especially young people. The direct marketing of live gaming creates a false sense of ease and quick wins, which may encourage some to try gambling for themselves. Additionally, gambling is often portrayed as an exciting and lucrative lifestyle, which increases its appeal to young people.
I agree.

This hits more the younger generation. And those that have become addicted at their mid-age or adults and professionals, you ask them and the majority of them have became a gambler once then when they were younger.

But then when they grew older and have the occupation and money, that's how they're enjoying things that they cannot afford before. As for these younger generation, they've got a lot of opportunities nowadays so they can be hook for as long as they can and easily without having that much to be worried with money.

The influence for decision making is easier on them because they have younger minds and lesser experience in life and gambling.

It is not only the youth that can be affected, users of different ages can be excited to try gambling without having any previous experience in placing bets. It is true that younger people are more receptive to new experiences without considering all the consequences, but we should always remember that a large percentage of video viewers do not have the full capacity to deal with different content online.

Casinos contract with streamers to publish promotional content for them on streaming platforms, so streamers or casinos cannot be blamed as long as there are platforms that allow such content to be published.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Gheka on November 16, 2024, 03:49:16 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 16, 2024, 04:59:01 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 16, 2024, 05:58:08 PM
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bittraffic on November 16, 2024, 06:21:22 PM
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.

We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 16, 2024, 08:27:40 PM
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.

We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.
I can infer two points from what you said, the first is Desperation, it has always been an issue of gamblers, and the more we are desperate for money, the more losses and addiction issues arise. I don't give an excuse for being idiotic in gambling, no one should, as adults, we should not be too aggressive in any of our approaches and no matter how expected we were, if it wasn't happening as we expected, we should adjust immediately without giving excuses, the weakness starts from there.

The second is that the last character found a purpose for himself. I've always said that anyone who is addicted to gambling should first be investigated whether or not he has a good job, if he doesn't, then finding one for him might be the best approach to easier stop gambling. The lack of financial source(s) aggravated the zeal to gamble in a bid to make money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 16, 2024, 09:26:11 PM
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.

We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.
When it comes into potntial addiction though then this is something that there would really be no exemption when it comes into this aspect on which we are all prone into it. It will really be just that basing up on a certain individual whether they would really be that mindful into the things that they are dealing into or wouldnt really be that caring at all when it comes to particular risks specially if we do speak about potential addiction on which we know that this will really be able to happen on the time or moment that you do find yourself having interest on dealing or playing with it. The main problem for those who do aim for more money is that they dont really care about on the potential addiction that they might encounter on the moment that they do play gambling..

We do know that companies will really be paying up someone to make that kind of exposure and since we are living on an era on where everything could really be advertised online then it will really be something that pertaining about those kind of marketing stuff on doing it on social media on which all of people are really that exposed into. Streaming are very common on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling
alone but also in other businesses as well.If you wont be careful into your actions then you are putting yourself into  trouble.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 16, 2024, 09:26:59 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
without a doubt, they're running some sort of promotional campaigns for the casinos... You haven't really outlined much details about these streamers, given that this is not even possible if they have a lesser number of followers on the app.
Well, if anyone still wanna argue on this fact, let's all analyse by their performances - I haven't watched any of these streamers, but y'all tell us - are they winning more often than it should be?
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Just like what you said on the other paragraph, most of them aren't profound gamblers so what's their interest in streaming live on different platforms? It's definitely gonna be an arranged testnet account -- unless otherwise, this might just be another promotional resolution plan.

So promoting for fun? Who does that? They don't even care whose gonna fall for their trick -- whatever happens, it's for the betterment of the casinos.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Accardo on November 16, 2024, 09:42:19 PM
We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.

Such players who end up creating advise on books or podcast begin to earn through gambling. Just like the steamers are the real winners in gaming, because they benefit from their viewers and followers. As for people who depend on winning via casino as a result of the streamer's content, they're most likely vulnerable to compulsive gambling. Due to the multiple wins published by these streamers. Which are quite unreal.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 16, 2024, 09:43:27 PM
Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
without a doubt, they're running some sort of promotional campaigns for the casinos... You haven't really outlined much details about these streamers, given that this is not even possible if they have a lesser number of followers on the app.
Well, if anyone still wanna argue on this fact, let's all analyse by their performances - I haven't watched any of these streamers, but y'all tell us - are they winning more often than it should be?
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Just like what you said on the other paragraph, most of them aren't profound gamblers so what's their interest in streaming live on different platforms? It's definitely gonna be an arranged testnet account -- unless otherwise, this might just be another promotional resolution plan.

So promoting for fun? Who does that? They don't even care whose gonna fall for their trick -- whatever happens, it's for the betterment of the casinos.
But to know that this is really just that only their job on which simply means that they are really that doing on where they do make money and we do know that
this is where they do really make some income. They dont really mind about others be saying whether its ethical or not as long they could be able to make money then this what matter the most.
The most common issue on here is that when an individual do suffer out some case of gambling addiction and losing up tons of money then they do really love on pointing out fingers into those people.

It is really that normal that they will really be spreading out exposure since gambling is really that indeed a profitable business, anything needs up exposure and this isnt really that new anymore
or something which is really that standard. On personal point of view then you are the ones who do needed up such control.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: I_Anime on November 16, 2024, 10:00:24 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.

And that's why you will see young folks gambling even when their guidance ain't doing it , because of what he encountered on the internet via social medias , because most folks like to showcase wins in there social handle just to lure people to gambling and some mainly endup ruining their lives.

Because they where no one to tell them the disadvantages of gambling but rather they where been filled with the advantages alone (e.g how folks made millions by hitting the jackpot). So which Made them to approach gambling the wrong way and may eventually endup been an addict.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: shield132 on November 16, 2024, 10:19:09 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
I think that it depends on which casino they promote. There are casinos that are very shady and do everything in their hands to get people by promoting fake sessions and promises but there are casinos that play with fair marketing rules and really share the real experience instead of a made-up story.

The true story is that most of them are fueling addiction and great examples of that are social media influencers, especially those who influence adolescence. During teen ages, it's considered cool to be gambling but in reality, it isn't. Teens follow their idols very much, they try to style like them, have similar hairstyles, manners, and do what they do. When influencers who have control over this group start gambling and promote fake wins, they are really fueling addiction instead of promoting a product.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 17, 2024, 06:09:26 PM

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.

We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.

Of course I think it is a definite possibility for someone to become addicted when their intention and purpose in gambling is to seek or pursue winning money, in the end it is clear that consciously or unconsciously their behavior towards gambling will definitely lead them to addiction where the worst point is when one day they experience a really significant downturn in their lives, in this case yes streamers can really trigger various downturns by showing something that looks tempting which triggers a change in perspective in a wrong direction that makes people who watch become so sure that they can also get victory like the streamers have managed to achieve. Therefore on the other hand this is a lesson for us that in life we ​​must always be able to use common sense and a rational perspective every time we find new things in life so that we know about what and how the activities we are facing are actually.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 17, 2024, 06:29:24 PM

Of course I think it is a definite possibility for someone to become addicted when their intention and purpose in gambling is to seek or pursue winning money, in the end it is clear that consciously or unconsciously their behavior towards gambling will definitely lead them to addiction where the worst point is when one day they experience a really significant downturn in their lives, in this case yes streamers can really trigger various downturns by showing something that looks tempting which triggers a change in perspective in a wrong direction that makes people who watch become so sure that they can also get victory like the streamers have managed to achieve. Therefore on the other hand this is a lesson for us that in life we ​​must always be able to use common sense and a rational perspective every time we find new things in life so that we know about what and how the activities we are facing are actually.

Indeed, when a gambler starts to aim to win more money the adrenaline inside them increase that's added up for them take longer time and more money to spend for thier gambling activities, and yes, it triggers addiction inside them as they wanted to increae their potential earnings the way they see those streamers did.

That kind of influenced affects those people who loves following someone's else journey not realizing that everything they've witness are all just for the sake of advertising.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bakasabo on November 17, 2024, 06:33:26 PM
I think that it depends on which casino they promote. There are casinos that are very shady and do everything in their hands to get people by promoting fake sessions and promises but there are casinos that play with fair marketing rules and really share the real experience instead of a made-up story.

The true story is that most of them are fueling addiction and great examples of that are social media influencers, especially those who influence adolescence. During teen ages, it's considered cool to be gambling but in reality, it isn't. Teens follow their idols very much, they try to style like them, have similar hairstyles, manners, and do what they do. When influencers who have control over this group start gambling and promote fake wins, they are really fueling addiction instead of promoting a product.

But I think that they still promote service, than fun or fueling addiction. Everyone makes their own decision to gamble for fun, to earn, and turning addicted is very individual. Everyone has their own vision on gambling. For example, when someone look at tomato, he imagine ketchup, but other person think about tomato juice. Notice how streamers focus on getting fun, streams are always fun. Streams are never about earning, as they dont start stream with saying «right now I will try to earn $1000» for example. As well as they dont focus on «try gambling to become like me». Everyone themselves takes decision what they start gambling for. 


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on November 17, 2024, 07:32:04 PM
What we see from streamers and accounts that can raise their millions from gambling, it is a strong influence and structure from the bookmaker, this is a show and advertisement of gambling products, the casino will license a bookmaker account, just play and win, even add a withdrawal to a bank account but this scenario is too classic, young people only need to skim through a few shared lines to know that this content is just a sample advertisement, not truthful. Addiction can only be blamed on the inability of the conscious mind to truly control greed, the obsession in the heart is the problem.

Which is very possible when greed takeover inside a person's mind, gambler who follows streamers mostly have that intention to have an edge against the house, thinking that with the shares strategy from known streamers will give them benefits, not realizing that it's all about the casino who give that access to make it more looks real.

Those gamblers who got attached and unable to control their emotions will suffer to the point that they will regret why they fall to this kind of trap from streamers who only look for their paychecks.

Yes, I am sure that is the intention and purpose of the people who come to gambling whose initial arrival was due to the influence of the promotional display scenario carried out by the gamblers who indirectly brainwashed the people who saw it and triggered an increase in their beliefs and confidence that they would also be able to get something that was successfully obtained by the streamers, but of course that is the wrong mindset, because in the end what will happen is that they are the ones who will lose a lot of money.

So it is very appropriate to say that in fact the accounts used by the streamers are accounts that have been designed behind the scenes which means that their victory is the result of manipulation. On the other hand, what is worrying is that they are people who have personalities that are easily provoked or easily emotional about everything that goes wrong with what they expect, which of course ultimately makes impulsive and aggressive behavior very possible for them to do until they finally lose all the money they have, which is very possible in a short time.

We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.

There are gamblers who successfully ended his gambling spree and found something else to do like releasing a self help book  ;D  Gambling Addiction & Recovery books.
When it comes into potntial addiction though then this is something that there would really be no exemption when it comes into this aspect on which we are all prone into it. It will really be just that basing up on a certain individual whether they would really be that mindful into the things that they are dealing into or wouldnt really be that caring at all when it comes to particular risks specially if we do speak about potential addiction on which we know that this will really be able to happen on the time or moment that you do find yourself having interest on dealing or playing with it. The main problem for those who do aim for more money is that they dont really care about on the potential addiction that they might encounter on the moment that they do play gambling..

We do know that companies will really be paying up someone to make that kind of exposure and since we are living on an era on where everything could really be advertised online then it will really be something that pertaining about those kind of marketing stuff on doing it on social media on which all of people are really that exposed into. Streaming are very common on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling
alone but also in other businesses as well.If you wont be careful into your actions then you are putting yourself into  trouble.
Yah, addiction is something anyone can fall into if they’re not careful. That’s why it’s important to stay aware of your limits and not get too hooked, especially if you're thinking always about the money/profit. Companies and ads will always make gambling look exciting, esp online, but it’s on us to stay smart about it.

Social media and streaming do make it easier for people to get influenced, so it's easy to attract many gamblers because most of the peopel are exposed in social media. At the end of the day, you are the only who control yourself, so u know when to stop before it gets worse.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Issa56 on November 17, 2024, 08:03:43 PM
We are vulnerable to addiction though. When someone puts his hope to winning a sum thru gambling and then dedicate his time and money to a point where he thinks there is no U-turn anymore, its harder to convince himself to stop while he believes to the streamer. The realization would come when all the dust settles and money is almost impossible to earn back.
Most people that are addicted to gambling are a set of people that are just desperate to make money from gambling. If you are gambling for the sake of money, then you are likely going to be addicted to gambling. If you are a gambler, then it’s better you do it just for fun, because when you are addicted to gambling, you are going to find it difficult to stop, so the best thing is to not get addicted to it in the first place. If you are gambling, just do it for fun, have a gambling budget. Immediately you use up your budget, then you should just stop gambling, don’t even try to deposit more money, because that’s how addiction does start.
 
Also, when gambling, after losing some amount of money, don’t even try to recover your loss, because if you try to do that, you might end up losing more, and your loss will keep on increasing, and you will be trying to recover it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: JunaidAzizi on November 17, 2024, 08:57:58 PM
As per my conclusion, after watching a lot of streamers who engage in online gambling, I find that they all seem fake and lie because these streamers wager a lot of dollars, which we can't afford to risk. They place their bets, and suddenly they lose, but there are no expressions on their faces. Then, they place another bet, and boom, they win based on their own prediction, saying things like, "This one will be mine," and they win that bet. It’s not realistic, how can a person take another risk after losing such a large amount?

Additionally, it has a very negative impact on their audience. I witnessed a case in India where a person lost $31,000 in gambling just by being inspired by those streamers. These sites already have a setup in their accounts that allows them to win every 4 out of 5 bets. So please don't trust these kinds of people, and why do you follow them when you can do anything by yourself?


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 17, 2024, 09:31:18 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.
And that's why you will see young folks gambling even when their guidance ain't doing it , because of what he encountered on the internet via social medias , because most folks like to showcase wins in there social handle just to lure people to gambling and some mainly endup ruining their lives.

Because they where no one to tell them the disadvantages of gambling but rather they where been filled with the advantages alone (e.g how folks made millions by hitting the jackpot). So which Made them to approach gambling the wrong way and may eventually endup been an addict.

Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: I_Anime on November 18, 2024, 01:10:26 AM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 18, 2024, 01:42:00 AM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
Well, streamers are only either doing what they are paid to do, or doing what they think will put money in their pocket,it's as simply as that but unfortunately and often times, many of us usually don't understand or we simply turn a blind eye.

Every gambler watching a streamer should know that they themselves have no special way they play their own games that needed learning from, they are simply hustling for their own money and that's all that matters to them, and like I will always say, some of this big wins we see happen live while the streamer is on air and gambling is sometimes arranged, this is why we must never take any of such things that happen live on streams serious.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 18, 2024, 01:42:49 AM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
I admit that when you have managed to get a big win in gambling it is difficult to get out, but what makes it difficult is our own thoughts that still want to win again and again, I myself experienced this when I once got a big win that made me happy and confused about whether to continue or stop, sometimes I lost control of myself so that what I did was continue it again by increasing the amount of the bet to be bigger hoping that the win that would happen would be even bigger, but inevitably defeat is something that cannot be avoided and what happens is losing everything that has been obtained makes me get a lesson to take advantage of the opportunities that have occurred.

I am sure everyone who has ever gambled must have experienced something like this where they find it difficult to stop gambling when they have managed to get a big win, and in my opinion that is a natural thing, but when you have experienced it, you should be able to learn from the incident.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: mammusu on November 18, 2024, 03:02:19 AM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
The role of gambling streamers is usually to promote gambling and one of the attractions of them is to spread stories about people who managed to win large sums and change their lives, it is undeniable that there are some people who can change their lives in gambling but that it very rare, even if there are, of course we do not know how much money they have spent so far in gambling, but apart from those who are successful, the fact is that people who are stuck in a cycle of loss by worsening their financial and emotional situation are even more numerous today.

I think gambling is not a reliable solution to our financial problems, because relying on luck to get out of financial difficulties can be very dangerous.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Nrcewker on November 18, 2024, 03:56:45 AM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun.
Their task is to increase addiction only. They are paid by the casino owners to do livestreams and show potential winning capabilities. This influences the common people that, if the streamers are winning, then why can’t they win? But the sad reality is that streamers use dummy money to place the bet and streams. We can’t do anything about it. What we can do is avoid these types of streamers and stop giving them views and subscribers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Bitinity on November 18, 2024, 06:49:03 AM
We cant generalize because every streamer must have their own intention or main reason of doing it. Some streamers may do gambling streams merely because they are being paid although basically they do not like gambling at all while some other streamers may do it because both they do like gambling and they are also taking an advantage from the casinos who paid them. This 2nd type of streamers maybe the one that can be said as fueling their addiction because they do love gambling as well and on the other side they get more funds from the partnership with the casino.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

I cant say so because I do not know, but if I have to guess, most streamers use real account and real money but the money is not fully withdrawable because usually the money is credited by the casino in order to make the streamer able to play.

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Fine or not is about our own responsibility on how to deal with what they follow and watch. Some followers can be attracted to do the same as what the streamers do when they watch the streamer win big. Money can attract many people easily even it can make people lose their logic so we have to educate ourselves about it to avoid the possible negative effect of what we watch.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Frankolala on November 18, 2024, 07:04:42 AM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun. The internet is flooded by young people and they are the ones that are more vulnerable to this addiction. If a streamer does a live video showing how he's making millions of dollars from a casino game even if those wins are probably fake, a lot of young people would be interested and this is how they can get lured into this. Gambling streamers are into what they are doing basically to promote their page, it's also an advertisement for the casinos that they are using, everything they do is all about making money.
And that's why you will see young folks gambling even when their guidance ain't doing it , because of what he encountered on the internet via social medias , because most folks like to showcase wins in there social handle just to lure people to gambling and some mainly endup ruining their lives.

Because they where no one to tell them the disadvantages of gambling but rather they where been filled with the advantages alone (e.g how folks made millions by hitting the jackpot). So which Made them to approach gambling the wrong way and may eventually endup been an addict.

Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.
Gambling is the opposite of what most people think it is, because majority of gamblers are doing it for profit sake, unknown to them that it is casino that will take from them, because you cannot win the house edge. Blindly, they continue gambling over and over again hoping that the next game will be a big win, but unfortunately they get more losses. These set of people that puts all their lives and hope in gambling to be life changer for them are the ones that's making the society think that gambling is bad and evil, because in the long run if they don't change their orientation that they cannot make profit from gambling and stop chasing their losses, their financial situation will be in a big mess, making them to look tattered and frustrated.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Akbarkoe on November 18, 2024, 07:23:19 AM
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Gambling is the opposite of what most people think it is, because majority of gamblers are doing it for profit sake, unknown to them that it is casino that will take from them, because you cannot win the house edge. Blindly, they continue gambling over and over again hoping that the next game will be a big win, but unfortunately they get more losses. These set of people that puts all their lives and hope in gambling to be life changer for them are the ones that's making the society think that gambling is bad and evil, because in the long run if they don't change their orientation that they cannot make profit from gambling and stop chasing their losses, their financial situation will be in a big mess, making them to look tattered and frustrated.

Those who say that gambling is about fun and entertainment, are actually just using an alibi as a form of defense for their carelessness in gambling. And although "yes" it is about fun and entertainment, only a few people are able to enjoy gambling as a place to seek pleasure and entertainment, most of them gamble to make a profit.

Continuing to gamble in the hope of covering the losses that have been experienced is a carelessness that is often done by gamblers. And not because they don't know the limits, but the big losses they experience have encouraged them to continue gambling even more. And this is where we need to appreciate every limit that we have made when we want to gamble, because if not, we will continue to experience even more losses.

Streamers broadcast the gambling they do just to attract people to gamble again and visit the gambling site that they promote, but some stupid people think that it is real, so in the end they continue to gamble in the hope of getting the same victory as the streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: taufik123 on November 18, 2024, 08:19:57 AM
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Fine or not is about our own responsibility on how to deal with what they follow and watch. Some followers can be attracted to do the same as what the streamers do when they watch the streamer win big. Money can attract many people easily even it can make people lose their logic so we have to educate ourselves about it to avoid the possible negative effect of what we watch.
You need to be aware of yourself and don't be too FOMO with the successes made by others, especially since the success is still unclear.
Online Casino streamers who get big wins have indeed been arranged in such a way, using a real account, but of course the system has been adjusted by the casino because the streamer is a player who will continue to win. 

That is a marketing necessity that needs to be done, and the goal is indeed to attract many people to enter and register at the casino.
And some casinos also offer bonuses for the first deposit made.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: I_Anime on November 18, 2024, 11:08:20 AM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun.
Their task is to increase addiction only. They are paid by the casino owners to do livestreams and show potential winning capabilities. This influences the common people that, if the streamers are winning, then why can’t they win? But the sad reality is that streamers use dummy money to place the bet and streams. We can’t do anything about it. What we can do is avoid these types of streamers and stop giving them views and subscribers.

Amd most folks don't care if it's dummy money or real , they still get their addiction feed up because of seeing wins via the internet from streamers, and the funny thing is that after all the losses you won't have anyone to blame but yourself, because you where the one that fell for it and go into gambling with the wrong mindset. Gambling is meant for fun not to get rich quick or to make easy money there's nothing like easy money, because gambling still can also get you rekt.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bakasabo on November 18, 2024, 11:15:33 AM
Those who say that gambling is about fun and entertainment, are actually just using an alibi as a form of defense for their carelessness in gambling. And although "yes" it is about fun and entertainment, only a few people are able to enjoy gambling as a place to seek pleasure and entertainment, most of them gamble to make a profit.

Continuing to gamble in the hope of covering the losses that have been experienced is a carelessness that is often done by gamblers. And not because they don't know the limits, but the big losses they experience have encouraged them to continue gambling even more. And this is where we need to appreciate every limit that we have made when we want to gamble, because if not, we will continue to experience even more losses.

Streamers broadcast the gambling they do just to attract people to gamble again and visit the gambling site that they promote, but some stupid people think that it is real, so in the end they continue to gamble in the hope of getting the same victory as the streamers.

I dont gamble for profit. For me gambling = paying for entertainment. Like going to a movie or bowling. I dont pay for movie ticket or bowling to earn. I can explain why I have such vision on gambling. Because I lose more than win, and by job brings me enough. With gambling, I am used to lose, as well I am used to pay for service. And even if I become short on money, I have few skills and options to earn besides earning on a regular job.

As to streamers, they do it for fun, and for their own fun. However they broadcast it to people not because they want to get more people addicted to gambling, but because streaming is fun for them, and they like popularity, to be in front of camera, to be discussed by others.

But becoming addicted to gambling, that is persons own wish. A person can get addicted after first ever game of gambling, or by playing on his own without even watching streams. Gambling streams are just alive pictures. Same as we see people smoke in movie or see cigarette ads, but we dont get addicted to smoking just by watching, nor even have a strong wish to try.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 18, 2024, 12:16:24 PM

Of course I think it is a definite possibility for someone to become addicted when their intention and purpose in gambling is to seek or pursue winning money, in the end it is clear that consciously or unconsciously their behavior towards gambling will definitely lead them to addiction where the worst point is when one day they experience a really significant downturn in their lives, in this case yes streamers can really trigger various downturns by showing something that looks tempting which triggers a change in perspective in a wrong direction that makes people who watch become so sure that they can also get victory like the streamers have managed to achieve. Therefore on the other hand this is a lesson for us that in life we ​​must always be able to use common sense and a rational perspective every time we find new things in life so that we know about what and how the activities we are facing are actually.

Indeed, when a gambler starts to aim to win more money the adrenaline inside them increase that's added up for them take longer time and more money to spend for thier gambling activities, and yes, it triggers addiction inside them as they wanted to increae their potential earnings the way they see those streamers did.

That kind of influenced affects those people who loves following someone's else journey not realizing that everything they've witness are all just for the sake of advertising.

Yes, that's right, not only does it trigger an increase in adrenaline but it also triggers an increase in hope and belief that they will be able to achieve a big win as they see from what the streamers produce in the show which indirectly they hope that the amount of big wins will be able to change their lives for the better financially.

On the other hand, I also agree that what is done and shown by the streamers really does influence the perspective and way of thinking of gamblers in viewing gambling, many of them eventually get lost in a wrong understanding and of course as we know about how dangerous it is and what bad potential will befall a gambler when they already have the wrong perspective on gambling, of course over time without realizing it they will be trapped in a cycle of addiction where when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be even more curious.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 18, 2024, 12:29:46 PM
Gambling streamers are doing more of fueling addiction than promoting fun.
Their task is to increase addiction only. They are paid by the casino owners to do livestreams and show potential winning capabilities. This influences the common people that, if the streamers are winning, then why can’t they win? But the sad reality is that streamers use dummy money to place the bet and streams. We can’t do anything about it. What we can do is avoid these types of streamers and stop giving them views and subscribers.

Amd most folks don't care if it's dummy money or real , they still get their addiction feed up because of seeing wins via the internet from streamers, and the funny thing is that after all the losses you won't have anyone to blame but yourself, because you where the one that fell for it and go into gambling with the wrong mindset. Gambling is meant for fun not to get rich quick or to make easy money there's nothing like easy money, because gambling still can also get you rekt.
We do know that there those people who do admit their mistakes and there are ones who do blame out someone because of the things that they are really currently experiencing those unfortunate situations. Bear in mind that these influencers or streamers are really just that doing their job on which they do make money out of it. As for someone who do look or sees out those streams are neither being hooked up or not. There are those who do end up on being addicted and there are ones haven’t been affected at all, as long they do treat up gambling for the sake of entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 18, 2024, 05:54:57 PM

Of course I think it is a definite possibility for someone to become addicted when their intention and purpose in gambling is to seek or pursue winning money, in the end it is clear that consciously or unconsciously their behavior towards gambling will definitely lead them to addiction where the worst point is when one day they experience a really significant downturn in their lives, in this case yes streamers can really trigger various downturns by showing something that looks tempting which triggers a change in perspective in a wrong direction that makes people who watch become so sure that they can also get victory like the streamers have managed to achieve. Therefore on the other hand this is a lesson for us that in life we ​​must always be able to use common sense and a rational perspective every time we find new things in life so that we know about what and how the activities we are facing are actually.

Indeed, when a gambler starts to aim to win more money the adrenaline inside them increase that's added up for them take longer time and more money to spend for thier gambling activities, and yes, it triggers addiction inside them as they wanted to increae their potential earnings the way they see those streamers did.

That kind of influenced affects those people who loves following someone's else journey not realizing that everything they've witness are all just for the sake of advertising.

Yes, that's right, not only does it trigger an increase in adrenaline but it also triggers an increase in hope and belief that they will be able to achieve a big win as they see from what the streamers produce in the show which indirectly they hope that the amount of big wins will be able to change their lives for the better financially.

On the other hand, I also agree that what is done and shown by the streamers really does influence the perspective and way of thinking of gamblers in viewing gambling, many of them eventually get lost in a wrong understanding and of course as we know about how dangerous it is and what bad potential will befall a gambler when they already have the wrong perspective on gambling, of course over time without realizing it they will be trapped in a cycle of addiction where when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be even more curious.

The reason why many followers loses their money as they are hoping that they can also have that same success that streamers are sharing, they are being blind by the reality that its all for the sole purpose of advertisement and just to make sure that they'll be able to reached those followers who also have that same passion with gambling, streamers are sharing those kinds of activities to earn money directly from the casinos or indirectly by form of ads and referrals.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: passwordnow on November 18, 2024, 05:58:14 PM
That is a marketing necessity that needs to be done, and the goal is indeed to attract many people to enter and register at the casino.
And some casinos also offer bonuses for the first deposit made.
Most of the casinos offer bonuses for the very first deposits. And all of them are very attractive that makes the new comers think that they'll have it on an instant. There's always a condition that needs to be met and it depends on what the casino is asking for. I've seen a lot of streamers that are also sponsored by stake and they're all having fun. They seem not to be sponsored because they all do it naturally or that's just how they stream at all. Even if they always mention that they're sponsored by stake or any other casinos, the viewers aren't going away from them but keeps on watching them for entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: boyptc on November 18, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
I agree.

This hits more the younger generation. And those that have become addicted at their mid-age or adults and professionals, you ask them and the majority of them have became a gambler once then when they were younger.

But then when they grew older and have the occupation and money, that's how they're enjoying things that they cannot afford before. As for these younger generation, they've got a lot of opportunities nowadays so they can be hook for as long as they can and easily without having that much to be worried with money.

The influence for decision making is easier on them because they have younger minds and lesser experience in life and gambling.

It is not only the youth that can be affected, users of different ages can be excited to try gambling without having any previous experience in placing bets. It is true that younger people are more receptive to new experiences without considering all the consequences, but we should always remember that a large percentage of video viewers do not have the full capacity to deal with different content online.

Casinos contract with streamers to publish promotional content for them on streaming platforms, so streamers or casinos cannot be blamed as long as there are platforms that allow such content to be published.
You're right, every age can be affected by the streamers or influencers when they're being loved by their own viewers.

So, the risk that they're telling to everyone who watches will be ignored for as long as they don't care about that because the fans like to follow wherever their idol is going.

They are there to attract and whoever does start to gamble because of them cannot be blamed, it's true.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: n0ne on November 18, 2024, 11:51:47 PM
Gambling platforms used to have different promotional tactics. One among those is the usage of streamers, which is really bad. They don't care about the money, and they keep on spending. This isn't possible with a common man, but it triggers a common man to give it a try, risking the amount he has earned for long. With gambling to be on the safer side, one should not spend more than 1% of his household earnings, but the reality is different, as people easily get triggered soon after they lose. One needs to be careful while gambling, know his limits, and shouldn't get misled by streamers, as we need to make ourselves responsible.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on November 19, 2024, 01:43:28 AM
Gambling platforms used to have different promotional tactics. One among those is the usage of streamers, which is really bad. They don't care about the money, and they keep on spending. This isn't possible with a common man, but it triggers a common man to give it a try, risking the amount he has earned for long. With gambling to be on the safer side, one should not spend more than 1% of his household earnings, but the reality is different, as people easily get triggered soon after they lose. One needs to be careful while gambling, know his limits, and shouldn't get misled by streamers, as we need to make ourselves responsible.
Indeed, now one of the most effective ways to develop or promote a business is of course by utilizing the current development of the internet, with the current reality that almost everyone spends their time involving the internet and social media, of course this is an opportunity for casinos to develop their business or business. By working together perhaps with other people who have a good reputation or popularity will increase their income even though they must have previously spent money in advance to make advertisements or work with streamers with the aim of promoting their casino.

In my opinion, the streamer himself does not force everyone to gamble or bet, but the desire from ourselves is what makes us gamble or bet when we see this streamer succeed in getting a tempting victory, if we can restrain ourselves then there will be no desire to try our luck by betting, just by looking at it is enough.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 19, 2024, 10:07:31 AM
Gambling platforms used to have different promotional tactics. One among those is the usage of streamers, which is really bad. They don't care about the money, and they keep on spending. This isn't possible with a common man, but it triggers a common man to give it a try, risking the amount he has earned for long. With gambling to be on the safer side, one should not spend more than 1% of his household earnings, but the reality is different, as people easily get triggered soon after they lose. One needs to be careful while gambling, know his limits, and shouldn't get misled by streamers, as we need to make ourselves responsible.
That is because gambling can tempt people easily so that makes them keep playing gambling without stop. Gambling streamers promote the casino and makes people realize that they have the same opportunities to win the games. But people doesn't realize that if they can not control themselves, they will just lose their money and that amount will be bigger than they imagine. People doesn't need to follow what other people and streamers to because they have their own reason that will different than us. So that is why we must know how much money we can use to playing gambling and strictly to our rules by limiting the money and time to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 19, 2024, 10:58:55 AM
Gambling platforms used to have different promotional tactics. One among those is the usage of streamers, which is really bad. They don't care about the money, and they keep on spending. This isn't possible with a common man, but it triggers a common man to give it a try, risking the amount he has earned for long. With gambling to be on the safer side, one should not spend more than 1% of his household earnings, but the reality is different, as people easily get triggered soon after they lose. One needs to be careful while gambling, know his limits, and shouldn't get misled by streamers, as we need to make ourselves responsible.
That is because gambling can tempt people easily so that makes them keep playing gambling without stop. Gambling streamers promote the casino and makes people realize that they have the same opportunities to win the games. But people doesn't realize that if they can not control themselves, they will just lose their money and that amount will be bigger than they imagine. People doesn't need to follow what other people and streamers to because they have their own reason that will different than us. So that is why we must know how much money we can use to playing gambling and strictly to our rules by limiting the money and time to gambling.

What they don't realize is the risk are twice compared to the chance that they might win, aside from getting greedy your adrenaline keeps adding to the pressure where instead of stopping gambler tends to push for more, as they think they'll be able to acheive what the streamers shows from their videos, those kind of hope are being installed inside a gamblers mindset thinking that they've got that equal opportunities where the chance is too small,

unlike with streamers which most of the time are being played or helped by the casino owners to shows that they keep on winning and there's a patterns that they use to bring the bacon on thier wallets.

Those tricks are being neglect by those gamblers who mostly idolize streamers that kind of hope keeps pumping inside that leads them to lose a lot.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 19, 2024, 12:17:03 PM

Yes, that's right, not only does it trigger an increase in adrenaline but it also triggers an increase in hope and belief that they will be able to achieve a big win as they see from what the streamers produce in the show which indirectly they hope that the amount of big wins will be able to change their lives for the better financially.

On the other hand, I also agree that what is done and shown by the streamers really does influence the perspective and way of thinking of gamblers in viewing gambling, many of them eventually get lost in a wrong understanding and of course as we know about how dangerous it is and what bad potential will befall a gambler when they already have the wrong perspective on gambling, of course over time without realizing it they will be trapped in a cycle of addiction where when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be even more curious.

The reason why many followers loses their money as they are hoping that they can also have that same success that streamers are sharing, they are being blind by the reality that its all for the sole purpose of advertisement and just to make sure that they'll be able to reached those followers who also have that same passion with gambling, streamers are sharing those kinds of activities to earn money directly from the casinos or indirectly by form of ads and referrals.

Yes, as I said before, misunderstanding is the biggest trigger for various disasters that will befall gamblers who come because they are interested in gambling after they see the shows made by streamers, on the other hand, as we know, everyone likes money and when there is a party that shows something that looks tempting, then of course there will be at least many people who try the same thing with high hopes and beliefs.

On the other hand, I think being rational and maintaining common sense can help someone avoid something that is misleading, because by being rational, I think you will know what looks reasonable and what looks far from realistic, so for this problem it depends on how each person responds to everything they find.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 19, 2024, 03:17:39 PM

That is because people also wants their lives like their idol so they will follow whatever their idol do. But that will not happen to those people as their lives will not be the same as their idols. If they watch influencers showing their video when playing gambling and follow that without thinking much, they will see that they only lose their money without have a big chance to win. Gambling streamers only promoting fun and the site so people must be wise when watch their videos and not just follows without searching for more information.

Yes, that is only more advisable because influencers really like fame and being followed, apart from moving masses, then it is something that they do whatever to obtain those benefits, then it is very easy for them to say lies from time to time and that is something that we should see, a person who knows and who is mature should accept that an influencer should not be completely trusted, they have to be aware of that, but that depends on the type of person who allows themselves to be manipulated, in this case things change because they know that not everything has to be believed, it is a matter of being smarter.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 19, 2024, 07:20:02 PM

Yes, that's right, not only does it trigger an increase in adrenaline but it also triggers an increase in hope and belief that they will be able to achieve a big win as they see from what the streamers produce in the show which indirectly they hope that the amount of big wins will be able to change their lives for the better financially.

On the other hand, I also agree that what is done and shown by the streamers really does influence the perspective and way of thinking of gamblers in viewing gambling, many of them eventually get lost in a wrong understanding and of course as we know about how dangerous it is and what bad potential will befall a gambler when they already have the wrong perspective on gambling, of course over time without realizing it they will be trapped in a cycle of addiction where when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be even more curious.

The reason why many followers loses their money as they are hoping that they can also have that same success that streamers are sharing, they are being blind by the reality that its all for the sole purpose of advertisement and just to make sure that they'll be able to reached those followers who also have that same passion with gambling, streamers are sharing those kinds of activities to earn money directly from the casinos or indirectly by form of ads and referrals.

Yes, as I said before, misunderstanding is the biggest trigger for various disasters that will befall gamblers who come because they are interested in gambling after they see the shows made by streamers, on the other hand, as we know, everyone likes money and when there is a party that shows something that looks tempting, then of course there will be at least many people who try the same thing with high hopes and beliefs.

On the other hand, I think being rational and maintaining common sense can help someone avoid something that is misleading, because by being rational, I think you will know what looks reasonable and what looks far from realistic, so for this problem it depends on how each person responds to everything they find.
Actually those streamers do give out some disclaimers neither along the way or in the beginning of such stream on which giving out some precautions that they should gamble only on the amount that they can afford to lose and never  tend to make use of the amount that are intended on other important use which is really that a good gesture.

It do really just end up on having that most people on having that kind of positivity towards on what they are seeing. This is why we would really be saying that these influencers are really the
main mistake or something should really be blamed on someones demise on which this is really that actually wrong.  They wont really be called influencers for nothing and
just like been said that they are really just that doing on the things on what they are being said to do so.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 20, 2024, 12:45:04 AM
What they don't realize is the risk are twice compared to the chance that they might win, aside from getting greedy your adrenaline keeps adding to the pressure where instead of stopping gambler tends to push for more, as they think they'll be able to acheive what the streamers shows from their videos, those kind of hope are being installed inside a gamblers mindset thinking that they've got that equal opportunities where the chance is too small,

unlike with streamers which most of the time are being played or helped by the casino owners to shows that they keep on winning and there's a patterns that they use to bring the bacon on thier wallets.

Those tricks are being neglect by those gamblers who mostly idolize streamers that kind of hope keeps pumping inside that leads them to lose a lot.
That is why they must change their mindset not doing the same thing as the streamers. They will still difficult to win the money like the streamers because the casino is behind them to attract more people to visit the casino. Maybe the casino pays them to show an interesting and tempting videos when they are playing gambling. And yes, they are succeed with their strategy and makes some people follow the streamers and spend their money by playing gambling.

The casino help streamers to win many times with a lot of money. That makes people can not thinks clear and just directly visit on the casino and start playing gambling. But the result will not be the same as they think because the casino will not let them wins easily.

Yes, that is only more advisable because influencers really like fame and being followed, apart from moving masses, then it is something that they do whatever to obtain those benefits, then it is very easy for them to say lies from time to time and that is something that we should see, a person who knows and who is mature should accept that an influencer should not be completely trusted, they have to be aware of that, but that depends on the type of person who allows themselves to be manipulated, in this case things change because they know that not everything has to be believed, it is a matter of being smarter.
We may follow streamers as their follower but that doesn't mean we must follow whatever they do because we must responsible with ourselves especially our money. We must consider that the streamers is just show their time to playing gambling and as their work and we as audience just watch them play and think that is just an entertainment for us. We don't have to follow them playing the same games because we have different of the favorite gambling games that we want to play. Besides that, we don't know if they are manipulate or that is real because they will never tell to their audience and they just gives their video to watch.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: SamReomo on November 20, 2024, 01:15:14 AM
Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.
That's the reason why they steam, they just want to get paid and nothing else. They don't care if someone lose $1M or $10M or even his/her entire belongings, they just want to make their money and that's the only reason why they stream. It's 10x better to avoid such streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on November 20, 2024, 09:07:48 AM
We may follow streamers as their follower but that doesn't mean we must follow whatever they do because we must responsible with ourselves especially our money. We must consider that the streamers is just show their time to playing gambling and as their work and we as audience just watch them play and think that is just an entertainment for us. We don't have to follow them playing the same games because we have different of the favorite gambling games that we want to play. Besides that, we don't know if they are manipulate or that is real because they will never tell to their audience and they just gives their video to watch.
big mistake if we clearly imitate what the streamers suggest and do, usually streamers will use a lot of money to place their bets and that makes them have a time that might last longer with their gambling, but this is certainly not recommended because imitating what the streamer does in my opinion indicates that we are in a state of resistance to being able to get profit from the gambling that is done.

For people who usually do not have an interest in gambling, maybe they will not do something like this because they are aware that something like this is just a marketing strategy carried out by the casino owner, we should not do the same thing as the streamers do with their gambling we must be able to see our own financial capabilities to gamble, don't let there be any behavior of forcing yourself to gamble, that's a mistake.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Reid on November 20, 2024, 09:10:08 AM
I am not one to judge these streamers because I think they are just looking for jobs. Be it a fuel of gambling addiction or just promoting fun. I do believe that in their mind they are just promoting the online casino but there will always be those who will abuse the fun and try to make a living out of gambling which leads to addiction.
I don't think that is their fault anymore. It's on us if we become gambling addicts, we forgot to be responsible with what we do, that's why.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 20, 2024, 01:29:54 PM

Exactly those who are fanatics and a real follower might think that influencers are really trying to help them winning, but the sole intentions is to gain the attention and bring those clicks and referrals to earn decently, those who got a little experienced might learn things the hard ways as they might lose a lot before they realize that it's more about money and the streamers don't care about them.

Just purely trying to lure those viewers to use their referrals and use the platform that they are promoting to gamble and play.

Well, what drives an influencer ? First of all, money, having a life where many people follow them and creating a community that is only theirs, but that is not what they are looking for, to get sponsorship from other people, companies ? Yes , obviously , that is the idea , only we have to be smarter , see influencers who really help us , some people don't see that , they just go with the flow and if we pay attention to everything they give as an example , then we lose money and that's it.

We Should also know how to Choose who to follow , we must be Responsible in that sense.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bubilas on November 20, 2024, 03:16:26 PM
I am not one to judge these streamers because I think they are just looking for jobs. Be it a fuel of gambling addiction or just promoting fun. I do believe that in their mind they are just promoting the online casino but there will always be those who will abuse the fun and try to make a living out of gambling which leads to addiction.
I don't think that is their fault anymore. It's on us if we become gambling addicts, we forgot to be responsible with what we do, that's why.

And I think that these streamers are doing a bad thing, and they are ruining not only people but also themselves. Yes, I have seen streamers who behaved normally and did not jump like macaques in front of the microphone, but they all come to streaming casinos for money, but who said that they themselves calmly resist addiction? And these guys when they win big money and do not try to restrain their emotions. God, what do their friends and parents think of them...


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 20, 2024, 03:36:05 PM

Yes, as I said before, misunderstanding is the biggest trigger for various disasters that will befall gamblers who come because they are interested in gambling after they see the shows made by streamers, on the other hand, as we know, everyone likes money and when there is a party that shows something that looks tempting, then of course there will be at least many people who try the same thing with high hopes and beliefs.

On the other hand, I think being rational and maintaining common sense can help someone avoid something that is misleading, because by being rational, I think you will know what looks reasonable and what looks far from realistic, so for this problem it depends on how each person responds to everything they find.
Actually those streamers do give out some disclaimers neither along the way or in the beginning of such stream on which giving out some precautions that they should gamble only on the amount that they can afford to lose and never  tend to make use of the amount that are intended on other important use which is really that a good gesture.

It do really just end up on having that most people on having that kind of positivity towards on what they are seeing. This is why we would really be saying that these influencers are really the
main mistake or something should really be blamed on someones demise on which this is really that actually wrong.  They wont really be called influencers for nothing and
just like been said that they are really just that doing on the things on what they are being said to do so.

Yup it is true that there are some streamers who say and warn their viewers to only bet with small amounts, I know and have seen them say it, but in most streaming cases only a few of them give such warnings, most of them just play and show something that looks tempting, I don't know the reason but what is clear is that they probably already know that just showing something tempting can make people treat gambling aggressively.
Yes I also agree with what you said that most likely the ones to blame here are the streamers who show something tempting which in fact behind the scenes is a big win that has been manipulated, but I also blame them only when they really don't give any warnings to their viewers such as warnings to use a little money as you said.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Distinctin on November 20, 2024, 04:14:49 PM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
Gambling streamers are initially aiming to promote fun and pleasure, but little did they know they are not only attracting the audience but they are also pushing them into gambling addiction. Lucky are those who instantly hit the jackpot and leave gambling for good, while those who continue to be lured by their greed, even if they are winning, casinos will gradually get them back again until these gamblers have nothing left and end up going home penniless. But of course, beginner gamblers won’t believe this, until they will experience this on their own and regret after.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: rachael9385 on November 20, 2024, 05:31:53 PM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
Gambling streamers are initially aiming to promote fun and pleasure, but little did they know they are not only attracting the audience but they are also pushing them into gambling addiction. Lucky are those who instantly hit the jackpot and leave gambling for good, while those who continue to be lured by their greed, even if they are winning, casinos will gradually get them back again until these gamblers have nothing left and end up going home penniless. But of course, beginner gamblers won’t believe this, until they will experience this on their own and regret after.
Yes you are right but the truth is that not every gambler can stop gambling after having a big win. Most of the gambler that won the jackpot still believes that more winning will still come that's why they continue gambling even after they have won huge money. Well, it's important to quite gamble immediately we have won the jackpot and not allows greed to make gamble more because of the mindset that we will win more.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oilacris on November 20, 2024, 06:35:20 PM
Let us admit the fact that most lucrative winnings that you can find over the net are questionable. However, people are being attracted to the notion that gambling may be their way out of poverty, debt or any financial troubles. And in the process, they will soon find out that they are only digging themselves into more inconveniences. This may lead to stress, anxiety or financial pressure that would be hard to get out of.


Yeah , and the only people that have managed to get their lives changed by gambtare those that summon the courage to stop after hitting the huge win , because some folks always get greedy and always want more so they will keep gambling and eventually lose everything while those that where to stop and use the money to start up something that will sustain his self and his family , the reason I don't vibe most streamers is that they always plant the wrong mindset , making folks to gambling in a harmful way .
Gambling streamers are initially aiming to promote fun and pleasure, but little did they know they are not only attracting the audience but they are also pushing them into gambling addiction. Lucky are those who instantly hit the jackpot and leave gambling for good, while those who continue to be lured by their greed, even if they are winning, casinos will gradually get them back again until these gamblers have nothing left and end up going home penniless. But of course, beginner gamblers won’t believe this, until they will experience this on their own and regret after.
Yes you are right but the truth is that not every gambler can stop gambling after having a big win. Most of the gambler that won the jackpot still believes that more winning will still come that's why they continue gambling even after they have won huge money. Well, it's important to quite gamble immediately we have won the jackpot and not allows greed to make gamble more because of the mindset that we will win more.
90-99% of them will definitely be that playing even more on which they will really be thinking up that they could even make more winnings after that winning on which we do know that in longer runs
those winning amounts will really be just that losing back into the casino, and this is where you will really be thinking that you should have that secured those winnings earlier and wont be able to
lose it back again. You will be having those kind of regrets at the end on which it is really that common on a certain gambler but usually if the thing happens again then you will really be that
doing the same thing again and again until you would be able to learned it on the hard way and make up some changes. As for exposure to streams and ads then if you arent that good on controlling yourself then you will really be having that hard time on dealing up with things.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: I_Anime on November 20, 2024, 07:57:57 PM
Yes you are right but the truth is that not every gambler can stop gambling after having a big win. Most of the gambler that won the jackpot still believes that more winning will still come that's why they continue gambling even after they have won huge money. Well, it's important to quite gamble immediately we have won the jackpot and not allows greed to make gamble more because of the mindset that we will win more

It is easier to quit after experiencing a huge loss than to quit after experiencing a huge win . Just as you said most believe they are going to see same jackpot again , it may be true there's no guarantees, and most time is always the other way round, either they lose the huge money they won or they lose a portion from it .

Gambling is not something that all about talent rather all about luck so if luck ain't on your side you  are in a big trouble, just be expecting losses,  but always avoid chasing after losses .


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 21, 2024, 08:19:24 AM
big mistake if we clearly imitate what the streamers suggest and do, usually streamers will use a lot of money to place their bets and that makes them have a time that might last longer with their gambling, but this is certainly not recommended because imitating what the streamer does in my opinion indicates that we are in a state of resistance to being able to get profit from the gambling that is done.

For people who usually do not have an interest in gambling, maybe they will not do something like this because they are aware that something like this is just a marketing strategy carried out by the casino owner, we should not do the same thing as the streamers do with their gambling we must be able to see our own financial capabilities to gamble, don't let there be any behavior of forcing yourself to gamble, that's a mistake.
We should not doing a big mistake by following the streamers suggestion because we must responsible with our money and not let us to spend for playing gambling. The streamer have a lot of money and they can place a big bet easily and that will be different than us. We must not trying to do the same thing as them but we must take care of ourselves and not let ourselves to playing gambling because of their suggestion.

We must realize that what the streamer did is only attract many people to comes to the casino by luring them to see the big win from the streamers. If we can hold ourselves and not let us get tempt from the videos, we will just skip the videos and choose the other videos. We don't want to see the lose in gambling but if we really want to playing gambling, we must be careful and always use limitation.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 21, 2024, 01:54:35 PM
Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.
That's the reason why they steam, they just want to get paid and nothing else. They don't care if someone lose $1M or $10M or even his/her entire belongings, they just want to make their money and that's the only reason why they stream. It's 10x better to avoid such streamers.
You've said it summarily and have captured it all, those guys are not there to waste their time but to smile to their bank accounts and they are not different from any influencers you can think of. They like to prove their worth, attract and team up with the good brands and use that continue to make money even as they gain from the platform adverts, endorsements and affiliate links attacked to their page etc. You don't expect them not to continue to stay active and even follow the instructions of their paymaster to the letter for the common goal.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: dunfida on November 21, 2024, 02:04:55 PM
Yes you are right but the truth is that not every gambler can stop gambling after having a big win. Most of the gambler that won the jackpot still believes that more winning will still come that's why they continue gambling even after they have won huge money. Well, it's important to quite gamble immediately we have won the jackpot and not allows greed to make gamble more because of the mindset that we will win more

It is easier to quit after experiencing a huge loss than to quit after experiencing a huge win . Just as you said most believe they are going to see same jackpot again , it may be true there's no guarantees, and most time is always the other way round, either they lose the huge money they won or they lose a portion from it .

Gambling is not something that all about talent rather all about luck so if luck ain't on your side you  are in a big trouble, just be expecting losses,  but always avoid chasing after losses .
It would be situational but if we do speak up literally then you would really be that definitely be stopping on playing on the time or moment that you have lost it all or simply literally cant play because you dont have money to spend. I do agree that when you are on a winning situation then you will really be having that kind of hard decisions whether you would really be that stopping or would really be that trying out to play even more on which this is really that likely to happen. There would really be those people who do might able to stop when they are winning but most of the time they will really be continuing to play just to have more.
As for marketing and exposure on gambling ads and other stuffs then it will really be that recommended that you shouldnt really be that making yourself that being get hyped up or being optimistic.
You would really be having that problem on the moment that addiction would really be that affecting on a certain individual. This is where problems do usually start up on where at the moment that you cant be able to control yourself on playing because you have been addicted into it. Streamers are really just that doing their job and they do get paid for that. If you are someone who do get paid for advertising then
you will definitely be doing it because earning money does always matter or something which is really that important.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on November 23, 2024, 05:44:37 AM
It shouldn't be a teenager activity but its also true in the modern world they keep putting gambling into normal games as well in a stealth way.  That's the bigger picture and greater danger then seeing a gambling stream imo.

   When younger I used to do gambling odds in Mathematics classes as its taught with probability and later statistics all part of the course.   I recommend if you want a child not to fall into an addiction then education is the best path not ignorance or over reliance on censorship especially.  Kids will find out about gambling soon or later, ideally they are prepared with a decent brain and ability with Mathematics etc. alongside anything else that might help them with life.

Gambling streamers are literally out there to make these things seem better,easier than they really are;even if they actually work and exists,Thier recommendations to gambling odds paints them achievable and simple and they just want to promote learning and create revenue for their own money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 23, 2024, 03:26:18 PM
I am not one to judge these streamers because I think they are just looking for jobs. Be it a fuel of gambling addiction or just promoting fun. I do believe that in their mind they are just promoting the online casino but there will always be those who will abuse the fun and try to make a living out of gambling which leads to addiction.
I don't think that is their fault anymore. It's on us if we become gambling addicts, we forgot to be responsible with what we do, that's why.

I think players needs to understand that those streamers are also streaming to gain a wide community so that they can monetize their community. If they have had a good number of subscriber, they could be offered the job to promote a game in a casino which they could lie to their audience that the game is very rewarding meanwhile they are not playing the game with a real account. So, at some point, I think the streamers ends up to deceive some player that believe their lies.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 28, 2024, 04:38:20 PM
We may follow streamers as their follower but that doesn't mean we must follow whatever they do because we must responsible with ourselves especially our money. We must consider that the streamers is just show their time to playing gambling and as their work and we as audience just watch them play and think that is just an entertainment for us. We don't have to follow them playing the same games because we have different of the favorite gambling games that we want to play. Besides that, we don't know if they are manipulate or that is real because they will never tell to their audience and they just gives their video to watch.

You're right in what you say, in fact there are many in the world that one becomes fond of, the fact of following them and supporting them does not mean that you have to do everything they do or say to do , and it's not because sometimes you don't want to but because there aren't the resources to make the bets that they make or something like that, I think that very few people in the world can do it, those who are wealthier, I really don't follow many, the only Influencers that I like are a few , in fact Mr Beast , and now CR7 who I think are going to do a collaboration Together on YouTube, and the Only thing and to do what CR7 does the most is play soccer and I don't even Want that.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on November 28, 2024, 07:30:57 PM
We may follow streamers as their follower but that doesn't mean we must follow whatever they do because we must responsible with ourselves especially our money. We must consider that the streamers is just show their time to playing gambling and as their work and we as audience just watch them play and think that is just an entertainment for us. We don't have to follow them playing the same games because we have different of the favorite gambling games that we want to play. Besides that, we don't know if they are manipulate or that is real because they will never tell to their audience and they just gives their video to watch.

You're right in what you say, in fact there are many in the world that one becomes fond of, the fact of following them and supporting them does not mean that you have to do everything they do or say to do , and it's not because sometimes you don't want to but because there aren't the resources to make the bets that they make or something like that, I think that very few people in the world can do it, those who are wealthier, I really don't follow many, the only Influencers that I like are a few , in fact Mr Beast , and now CR7 who I think are going to do a collaboration Together on YouTube, and the Only thing and to do what CR7 does the most is play soccer and I don't even Want that.



Both of you are right there's no need to follow whatever the influencer are trying to direct his or her viewers it's always a choice but we can't deny the fact that there are fans and followers who really admire those people thinking that with what they're Sharing can help them, especially in terms of gambling those streamers earned the attention of those followers aside from attracting them to sign up they also attract them to deposit and play the game that they've played.

Easy money from referrals or money from paid ads that's how it was for the streamers side, they don't need to worry about anything as most of them not all but most of those who accepts gambling ads are after the money that they've going to received.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 28, 2024, 07:42:06 PM
We may follow streamers as their follower but that doesn't mean we must follow whatever they do because we must responsible with ourselves especially our money. We must consider that the streamers is just show their time to playing gambling and as their work and we as audience just watch them play and think that is just an entertainment for us. We don't have to follow them playing the same games because we have different of the favorite gambling games that we want to play. Besides that, we don't know if they are manipulate or that is real because they will never tell to their audience and they just gives their video to watch.

You're right in what you say, in fact there are many in the world that one becomes fond of, the fact of following them and supporting them does not mean that you have to do everything they do or say to do , and it's not because sometimes you don't want to but because there aren't the resources to make the bets that they make or something like that, I think that very few people in the world can do it, those who are wealthier, I really don't follow many, the only Influencers that I like are a few , in fact Mr Beast , and now CR7 who I think are going to do a collaboration Together on YouTube, and the Only thing and to do what CR7 does the most is play soccer and I don't even Want that.


Actually it is really just that depending on a certain individual into the actions that they are making. They arent that forcing you to watch them and arent forcing you to make deposits into a site.
You are the ones who do make out such decision on making up some deposits and its everything according into your own will. Therefore, it wouldnt really be that just right that you will really be
pointing out your fingers at them and blaming them on why you had lost up too much money or simply being addicted? Well, its true that they might be able to influence you but if you are someone
whose really that good when it comes to self control and life decision making then you are the ones who do put up yourself on such condition and not them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 05, 2024, 08:20:22 PM
Easy money from referrals or money from paid ads that's how it was for the streamers side, they don't need to worry about anything as most of them not all but most of those who accepts gambling ads are after the money that they've going to received.

There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 05, 2024, 08:35:00 PM
Easy money from referrals or money from paid ads that's how it was for the streamers side, they don't need to worry about anything as most of them not all but most of those who accepts gambling ads are after the money that they've going to received.

There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.

We are really that guilty sometimes about being greedy and thats why it would really be ending up on excessive dealing into something that turned out to be non ethical anymore on which you do accept everything without knowing its legitimacy, but of course on every action will really be having that corresponding consequences on which it will really be that something will be resulting into losing popularity or you will really be not trusted by your followers if thats the case. You might be able to make money at first but once that credibility will be gone, then you will really be having a hard time or would be never be able to get that trust anymore on which it will really be affecting overall your job as an influencer. So it will really be just that depending on you on how you would really be making up things accordingly.

As for bringing up that addiction then we cant deny that it could really be fire up that urge to gamble specially if you've seen these influencers do make huge amount of money at the time that they are playing. You will really be having these thoughts that you can be able to easily do it just the same on the things that they were able to achieve. On the moment that will be trying out to copy them then this will really be causing up that kind of impulsiveness and desperation specially that you are trying out to catch up those wins that they had made out.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 05, 2024, 08:40:50 PM

Actually it is really just that depending on a certain individual into the actions that they are making. They arent that forcing you to watch them and arent forcing you to make deposits into a site.
You are the ones who do make out such decision on making up some deposits and its everything according into your own will. Therefore, it wouldnt really be that just right that you will really be
pointing out your fingers at them and blaming them on why you had lost up too much money or simply being addicted? Well, its true that they might be able to influence you but if you are someone
whose really that good when it comes to self control and life decision making then you are the ones who do put up yourself on such condition and not them.

You're right, I could think that any person before using a casino, before starting to play, should do it because they want to have a different time, not because an influencer does it and tells them to, an influencer can do anything, advice or something, but it's like you say, it's up to you if you want to do it, it's not an obligation, it's all our decision, that's why Influencers should be given the position they are, if we are mature enough we have to realize that we Should not let ourselves be manipulated by them or anyone else, some just want to enter under a referral link , they are only looking for that to win, but that is something that should be seen at once, all those details are the ones that we Should Always see.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 05, 2024, 08:44:13 PM

You're right in what you say, in fact there are many in the world that one becomes fond of, the fact of following them and supporting them does not mean that you have to do everything they do or say to do , and it's not because sometimes you don't want to but because there aren't the resources to make the bets that they make or something like that, I think that very few people in the world can do it, those who are wealthier, I really don't follow many, the only Influencers that I like are a few , in fact Mr Beast , and now CR7 who I think are going to do a collaboration Together on YouTube, and the Only thing and to do what CR7 does the most is play soccer and I don't even Want that.


Actually it is really just that depending on a certain individual into the actions that they are making. They arent that forcing you to watch them and arent forcing you to make deposits into a site.
You are the ones who do make out such decision on making up some deposits and its everything according into your own will. Therefore, it wouldnt really be that just right that you will really be
pointing out your fingers at them and blaming them on why you had lost up too much money or simply being addicted? Well, its true that they might be able to influence you but if you are someone
whose really that good when it comes to self control and life decision making then you are the ones who do put up yourself on such condition and not them.

Well that's right, basically there is no coercion or even threats from the streamer or even the casino to you to gamble or make a deposit, in the end as you said that this depends on each person's personal decision and also of course depends on each person's readiness, simply if you are not ready then why do you do it? Isn't that action done with your own permission? of course, and then why should you regret it in the end? and it also really doesn't make sense to blame the casino or the streamers when it turns out that you lose a lot of money in gambling.

Basically everyone is given reason to think and at the same time to determine what is good and what is bad for them, so that means that those gamblers who are still trapped in the cycle of decline due to gambling are those people who really can't use their common sense properly


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 05, 2024, 10:06:53 PM
Easy money from referrals or money from paid ads that's how it was for the streamers side, they don't need to worry about anything as most of them not all but most of those who accepts gambling ads are after the money that they've going to received.

There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.


Since that they already have  money they don't need those ads and they wanted to protect their integrity, unlike with those other streamers where they are just aiming to earn views and visits they are all concerned about making money, most of those don't have any care about their viewers as long as they are receiving their rewards then they'll continue streaming videos and highlights those good side of the casino to gain more people to use the site and probably earn more money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 05, 2024, 11:39:30 PM
There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.
They just accept offers and collaborations since it's not going to cost them a lot of them to promote. They'll just include it with their exposure or such and they get paid.

That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 06, 2024, 05:47:08 AM
You're right in what you say, in fact there are many in the world that one becomes fond of, the fact of following them and supporting them does not mean that you have to do everything they do or say to do , and it's not because sometimes you don't want to but because there aren't the resources to make the bets that they make or something like that, I think that very few people in the world can do it, those who are wealthier, I really don't follow many, the only Influencers that I like are a few , in fact Mr Beast , and now CR7 who I think are going to do a collaboration Together on YouTube, and the Only thing and to do what CR7 does the most is play soccer and I don't even Want that.
That is why many people follow those influencer because they know that those influencer can give something to them. But in this matter, people should be wise following those influencer and not just follow what they say. They must filter of what is good and bad so they will not make a mistake so they can use the good thing that the influencer share and leave the bad one and not use it. The streamers just share what they get to their followers but actually, they also responsible with those followers as they watch the stream and maybe some of them use what the streamers says. People must be responsible to themselves and not become addicted to gambling if they often watch the streamers who shares about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hewlet on December 06, 2024, 06:14:20 AM
That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.
the sad reality is that most of them don't care much on the effect of what their audience are consuming from the advert they are running have on the audience, they just tell you what they are paid to say and when you make use of those platform, you might sometimes find out that the streamers overhyped those stuff and if you are the type that get carried away by cheap hype, you might have become the victim already before knowing. that you can always carry out your own research is enough advantage you have that should not allow you fall victim or give any excuse that it is because of streamer that you have gotten addicted to gambling. if the that are doing the advert on all their videos don't get addicted then you should not be addicted also.

sometimes it is good to develop some sort of thick skin to things such that regardless of the hype or how frequent you see certain thing, you are not moved to go above your limit. if you have disciplined yourself that regardless of how compelling the streamers are that you aren't going above your limit, then nothing will be able to drag you to become an addict.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 06, 2024, 10:20:00 PM
That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.
the sad reality is that most of them don't care much on the effect of what their audience are consuming from the advert they are running have on the audience, they just tell you what they are paid to say and when you make use of those platform, you might sometimes find out that the streamers overhyped those stuff and if you are the type that get carried away by cheap hype, you might have become the victim already before knowing. that you can always carry out your own research is enough advantage you have that should not allow you fall victim or give any excuse that it is because of streamer that you have gotten addicted to gambling. if the that are doing the advert on all their videos don't get addicted then you should not be addicted also.

sometimes it is good to develop some sort of thick skin to things such that regardless of the hype or how frequent you see certain thing, you are not moved to go above your limit. if you have disciplined yourself that regardless of how compelling the streamers are that you aren't going above your limit, then nothing will be able to drag you to become an addict.
They wouldn't care because it's only about the money that they can make from these poor audiences that they have.

It's all about the money that comes scattered from small people and with every small amounts that are gathered together, there goes the huge profits that they can make from them.

So, that's how the marketing works and the audience and reach that they're able to convince and convert into sales(deposit/gamble).


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on December 06, 2024, 11:12:44 PM
There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.
They just accept offers and collaborations since it's not going to cost them a lot of them to promote. They'll just include it with their exposure or such and they get paid.

That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.
Well, that's the problem nowadays, influencers and streamers don't even check the background of what they will support or advertise even though it could mean one or two people getting scammed in the process. All they care about is the money and as long as the client will pay, they will do everything to advertise them.
So, what can we do to avoid them? We can just unfollow them if it is on social media or we can report them so that maybe some actions will happen even though it might take long. I think this kind of industry will grow as everything is on the internet in this era and probably more people will be tricked.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 08, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
They just accept offers and collaborations since it's not going to cost them a lot of them to promote. They'll just include it with their exposure or such and they get paid.

That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.
Well, that's the problem nowadays, influencers and streamers don't even check the background of what they will support or advertise even though it could mean one or two people getting scammed in the process. All they care about is the money and as long as the client will pay, they will do everything to advertise them.
So, what can we do to avoid them? We can just unfollow them if it is on social media or we can report them so that maybe some actions will happen even though it might take long. I think this kind of industry will grow as everything is on the internet in this era and probably more people will be tricked.
That's their job so any offer to them will be taken as long as it's good amount of money.

And that's also not a surprising thing with them because we see these streamers are also targeted by phishing and hack. So, any offer they think is quite decent, they click links and forms to sign the deal or any other proceedings.

We see from that situation, you're right that all they care about is money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Taskford on December 08, 2024, 10:29:29 PM
There are many types of influencers, there are those who accept all kinds of game and casino ads and do not verify if the casinos are legitimate or authentic, they are only Interested in money, others are like CR7 and Mr Beast who have so much money that they are not looking for that, in fact these two have done collaborations, so you can say that these people are very different in what they are looking for, I have never seen some of them look for people to go to a asino , however I am sure that if they do such a thing, that casino will have a lot of traffic.
They just accept offers and collaborations since it's not going to cost them a lot of them to promote. They'll just include it with their exposure or such and they get paid.

That's how influential they are and that's how much they cost their money because they've got a wider reach. But I wish that most of these influencers are going to check everything before they advertise just as you have said.
Well, that's the problem nowadays, influencers and streamers don't even check the background of what they will support or advertise even though it could mean one or two people getting scammed in the process. All they care about is the money and as long as the client will pay, they will do everything to advertise them.
So, what can we do to avoid them? We can just unfollow them if it is on social media or we can report them so that maybe some actions will happen even though it might take long. I think this kind of industry will grow as everything is on the internet in this era and probably more people will be tricked.


Well can't expect anything from those people since that is their main goal on why they are streaming. That's why I rarely watch those people streams especially if they are so obvious promoting some casino since for sure that we cannot get real feedbacks coming from them. Usually they post everything nice to attract people to gamble on that casino that's why instead wasting of time watching them I just go to other channels which I think more worth it to pay good attention.

To many streamers like that and its really better to unfollow them and leave some word on their comment section that people should do their own research before believing on what those streamer say so that those people could read those statement would get some time to realize that they need to search and do background to know more about what these people been promoting. But unfortunately there's less people doing this that's why lots of people still got tricked by this wicked streamers and these promoters always take advantage the innocence of new people in the scene.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Yamifoud on December 08, 2024, 10:58:12 PM
To many streamers like that and its really better to unfollow them and leave some word on their comment section that people should do their own research before believing on what those streamer say so that those people could read those statement would get some time to realize that they need to search and do background to know more about what these people been promoting. But unfortunately there's less people doing this that's why lots of people still got tricked by this wicked streamers and these promoters always take advantage the innocence of new people in the scene.
For the sake of money, influencers tend to follow whatever their sponsors say. While I get their predicament, they really need to know what they're promoting and the possible outcomes. I think some influencers have already pulled back to keep their followers and recognize their past errors. Leaving a few comments is a smart move; it helps them see that their actions may be off-base, and it's ultimately their call to keep going or not.
As for us viewers, we also have the choice to unfollow and ignore them. Remember, we viewers play a huge role in their success; without us, their earnings will be affected. And certainly, this gives them an option after seeing their followers start to decline.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 08, 2024, 11:58:35 PM

Well, that's the problem nowadays, influencers and streamers don't even check the background of what they will support or advertise even though it could mean one or two people getting scammed in the process. All they care about is the money and as long as the client will pay, they will do everything to advertise them.
So, what can we do to avoid them? We can just unfollow them if it is on social media or we can report them so that maybe some actions will happen even though it might take long. I think this kind of industry will grow as everything is on the internet in this era and probably more people will be tricked.
That's their job so any offer to them will be taken as long as it's good amount of money.

And that's also not a surprising thing with them because we see these streamers are also targeted by phishing and hack. So, any offer they think is quite decent, they click links and forms to sign the deal or any other proceedings.

We see from that situation, you're right that all they care about is money.

True, to be honest I don't know specifically about the clauses of the agreement they make with business actors such as casinos in making deals, but what is certain is clear as you said in your last idea that in this situation their priority is money, nothing else, they take advantage of the large number of followers to seek full profit without caring about any impact that will be experienced by the audience.

On the other hand, as long as I know about gambling, to be honest I have never seen streamers who broadcast while explaining to the audience about the dangers of gambling or the bad impacts that can be caused by gambling, the reason I am sure is because if they did that then the number of enthusiasts would be less and that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be too big.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Koadharber on December 09, 2024, 01:23:59 AM
To many streamers like that and its really better to unfollow them and leave some word on their comment section that people should do their own research before believing on what those streamer say so that those people could read those statement would get some time to realize that they need to search and do background to know more about what these people been promoting. But unfortunately there's less people doing this that's why lots of people still got tricked by this wicked streamers and these promoters always take advantage the innocence of new people in the scene.
For the sake of money, influencers tend to follow whatever their sponsors say. While I get their predicament, they really need to know what they're promoting and the possible outcomes. I think some influencers have already pulled back to keep their followers and recognize their past errors. Leaving a few comments is a smart move; it helps them see that their actions may be off-base, and it's ultimately their call to keep going or not.
As for us viewers, we also have the choice to unfollow and ignore them. Remember, we viewers play a huge role in their success; without us, their earnings will be affected. And certainly, this gives them an option after seeing their followers start to decline.
Everything would be done basing up on whats being ordered or really that part of the job description on which as long they do get paid then they would definitely be doing it.They wont really be caring out on whatever their viewers would really be having or the actions they made on which they are really that focusing into the job that they have accepted. If we do really tend to look at in overall then addiction is something a personal problem on which its not totally been caused by these streamers but rather it is really just that depending or basing up on someones decisions whether they would really be doing gambling or not. The main issue on where is that they are trying out to copy those streamers and on the moment that they do make out some huge bets then this is where things becomes messy.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Lida93 on December 09, 2024, 01:55:35 AM
Well, that's the problem nowadays, influencers and streamers don't even check the background of what they will support or advertise even though it could mean one or two people getting scammed in the process. All they care about is the money and as long as the client will pay, they will do everything to advertise them.
I read how people keep giving excuses for these social media gamble influencers about a whole lot of them don't really have a little or good idea of what they are promoting to their fans. And am perplexed with each times I come across these flimsy excuses made on behalf of these well educated and informed guys who harps mainly for the cash they are paid to do what they do and scarcely have no best interest of their followers in mind.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 09, 2024, 08:10:16 PM
That's their job so any offer to them will be taken as long as it's good amount of money.

And that's also not a surprising thing with them because we see these streamers are also targeted by phishing and hack. So, any offer they think is quite decent, they click links and forms to sign the deal or any other proceedings.

We see from that situation, you're right that all they care about is money.

True, to be honest I don't know specifically about the clauses of the agreement they make with business actors such as casinos in making deals, but what is certain is clear as you said in your last idea that in this situation their priority is money, nothing else, they take advantage of the large number of followers to seek full profit without caring about any impact that will be experienced by the audience.

On the other hand, as long as I know about gambling, to be honest I have never seen streamers who broadcast while explaining to the audience about the dangers of gambling or the bad impacts that can be caused by gambling, the reason I am sure is because if they did that then the number of enthusiasts would be less and that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be too big.
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: red4slash on December 09, 2024, 08:17:24 PM
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fortify on December 09, 2024, 09:48:53 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Maybe it is just me, but I am not sure what sort of people are watching "gamblers" on these streaming sites and it should be blatantly obvious that they are playing a rigged setup 99% of the time (they might not even know it). For those streamers who do partner with casinos, it should be obvious that some tinkering will be going on in the background to make payouts appear more frequently without arousing too much suspicion, or they're just having their accounts topped up with free money to keep the illusion of endless money going. I do wonder how many of this type of streamer are not open and up front about their connections to casinos, because I imagine only that 1% of people will have the money or inclination to stream this sort of content long term otherwise.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 09, 2024, 10:11:59 PM
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.
It's fun while it last and then it becomes a habit and then a bad habit when it's already too much.

And these streamers will careless to them and even some stories that some of the viewers did complained to a stream that they've lost their entire life savings because of the influence.

That's how it goes for them and that's why whether we watch or we stream, we need to take accountability with our actions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: STT on December 09, 2024, 10:21:10 PM
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what sort of people are watching "gamblers" on these streaming sites and it should be blatantly obvious that they are playing a rigged setup 99% of the time (they might not even know it).


That would be illegal and the casino is risking alot by doing that, they will demonstrating something provably incorrect for the means of profit by deception.  Its unlikely they would give evidence against themselves in that way.

Far more likely is for any company to proceed in a legal path that benefits a perspective of promotion to facilitate more customers.   They only have to show the games being played and its a positive for drawing in at least some new players who wouldnt play otherwise, its not magic.

  I watched alot of these streams, it was just normal gameplay imo and a bit of a laugh as any good streamer manages to do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Churchillvv on December 09, 2024, 10:34:45 PM
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.
Of course I do agree with you that most do not play out of the desire to gamble but for earning purposes and Themis earnings are totally different from the reward they get while streaming and such they have no emotions towards their gambles but at this point I do see such adverts and before I got to know so well about gambling I use to try to play plinko on BC.Games because streamers always win when I watch in reality, I lose every time hence this has got me to conclude that streaming gambling activities only send wrong signals to the audience but creates high rate of awareness to people that such casino exist which is why it's probably not going to end.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: KennyR on December 09, 2024, 10:42:03 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 10, 2024, 07:57:43 AM

True, to be honest I don't know specifically about the clauses of the agreement they make with business actors such as casinos in making deals, but what is certain is clear as you said in your last idea that in this situation their priority is money, nothing else, they take advantage of the large number of followers to seek full profit without caring about any impact that will be experienced by the audience.

On the other hand, as long as I know about gambling, to be honest I have never seen streamers who broadcast while explaining to the audience about the dangers of gambling or the bad impacts that can be caused by gambling, the reason I am sure is because if they did that then the number of enthusiasts would be less and that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be too big.
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.

Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nimogsm on December 10, 2024, 01:54:12 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ricardo11 on December 10, 2024, 02:19:15 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
In fact, these types of streamers are mainly involved with those casinos, it is a business for the streamer, their goal is to get new players addicted to those casinos and make them invest money in those casinos.
Because the more new players watch the streamer's stream and and will enter the casino with that streamers referral, the more commissions those streamers will get, because the streamer's profit comes from the player's loss.
So you should stay as far away from these streamer's traps as possible, streamers only highlight gambling wins not loss, and make everyone addicted to casinos, so always careful.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: dunfida on December 10, 2024, 02:28:56 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
In fact, these types of streamers are mainly involved with those casinos, it is a business for the streamer, their goal is to get new players addicted to those casinos and make them invest money in those casinos.
Because the more new players watch the streamer's stream and and will enter the casino with that streamers referral, the more commissions those streamers will get, because the streamer's profit comes from the player's loss.
So you should stay as far away from these streamer's traps as possible, streamers only highlight gambling wins not loss, and make everyone addicted to casinos, so always careful.
Not a business but rather it is really that a job for them and this is where some influencers do make a living, on which they would really be asked out on marketing or giving out on exposure into something on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling alone but also in other services that needs up such marketing or any business. We cant be able to deny that they do really adds up with that potential addiction into a certain individual but we do really know that when it comes into this aspect on which the ones whose really that at fault on this is the person itself whose really that dealing up with gambling yet they are the ones who do make out such control on whatever they do. People do really just that love on pointing out their fingers and blaming out someone into their current situation on which this one isnt really that right at all. They are really just that doing their job and they are the ones that just making up money on what they are doing. If you do get addicted then there's no other that needs to be blamed up but only yourself. This is why on the time or moment that you do play gambling then it will really be just that according into your own control and the risks involved into it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danherbias07 on December 10, 2024, 04:06:33 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
Still, I think it will be the players' fault for not knowing that firsthand. Gambling is a risky industry and steamers are there to advertise them. As players, we should know better. We cannot think like we can like how they did because of most of their games are scripted and they probably just stream the parts where they are near hitting the high multiplier and after they hit it with a reaction that should look legit just so they could pull more players in that gambling site that they are advertising.
It's their job, I don't think we should be pointing fingers at them when all the reason to gamble is on us. We chose to make a bet, live with the results.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 10, 2024, 07:31:58 PM
A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: BABY SHOES on December 10, 2024, 07:52:57 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
Want to get rich quick... they run to gambling because they think gambling is a get-rich-quick scheme.

A streamer cannot be blamed because the profession is just a job or they work with casino affiliates so that they will get incentive pay.
If we can do like a streamer then do it ... I'm sure you will be addicted to the benefits.

But remember being a streamer is not easy let alone building from the bottom for more followers... you have to sacrifice a lot of money or fame.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: DiMarxist on December 10, 2024, 07:58:22 PM
A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.
Let us be frank, gambling is not only for fun but also for profit making as others have said time without number which.i have seen here and physical argument on this, winning make the gambler event more fun and if there is no winning and more losing then  gambling became boring but if the gambler wins some odds then he was will become a motivational speaker instant. Telling people he won games with little amount and they can also try and win. And those are the people that also tell people that they have gambling tips to win bets.
Gambling needs good knowledge and not parochial knowledge to play gamble. And those streamers are influencers that are working for the casino to attract more people to the casino so if you not knowledgeable then you will fall for them and either be scam or loss your funds in the casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Mahanton on December 10, 2024, 08:32:08 PM
A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.
Let us be frank, gambling is not only for fun but also for profit making as others have said time without number which.i have seen here and physical argument on this, winning make the gambler event more fun and if there is no winning and more losing then  gambling became boring but if the gambler wins some odds then he was will become a motivational speaker instant. Telling people he won games with little amount and they can also try and win. And those are the people that also tell people that they have gambling tips to win bets.
Gambling needs good knowledge and not parochial knowledge to play gamble. And those streamers are influencers that are working for the casino to attract more people to the casino so if you not knowledgeable then you will fall for them and either be scam or loss your funds in the casino.
One of the main reason on why gamblers do keep up on pushing up themselves on playing gambling is really just that indeed for the sake of money and fun will really be just on second priority. They will really be mainly having those thoughts that they can make money with gambling at the same time that they do able to enjoy it out but we do know that making money will really be our main goal into this aspect. Whenever we do see up some advertisement or even into those streams, then as a gambler then you will really be that reacting into it on which you do really know that these things will really be look interesting into your part.
Are the promoting or fueling addiction? For personal approach then you are the ones who do make out some action on trying out to copy them on which it isnt really that right that you will be blaming them up.
Just like on everyones saying that you are the ones who do make out such action and not them. They are just trying out to do their job on showcasing up a particular casino in regarding into their features and other highlights on where they will really be showing it to public. If you are someone who do easily get attracted with these things then you will really be that longing on trying to test it out.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Antotena on December 10, 2024, 08:49:40 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Some gamblers knows but because they don't have other ways of making money, they will ratter continue gambling with luck on their mind hoping they win but they don't win anything. There are some gamblers that if you ask them to print you their monthly gambling net deposit and withdrawals from casino, you might be shock there wouldn't be withdrawal, just deposit which shows they just gamble they are not profitable in the things day do.

Some of them aren't really addicted to gambling, they are not but the fact that they have lose huge accumulated sum of money to casino, they will want to see it back to their wallet but unfortunately it's a trap. If you really are going to win gambling, you would have done so many times not when you have loss momeh many times and then you now want to choose your battles, you will not win anything.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Vaculin on December 10, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
Want to get rich quick... they run to gambling because they think gambling is a get-rich-quick scheme.

A streamer cannot be blamed because the profession is just a job or they work with casino affiliates so that they will get incentive pay.
If we can do like a streamer then do it ... I'm sure you will be addicted to the benefits.

But remember being a streamer is not easy let alone building from the bottom for more followers... you have to sacrifice a lot of money or fame.
I prefer to just be a regular gambler and live lowkey, not a streamer where everyone else is into you, and instead of providing fun to the audience, you end up crossing the road but fuel their addiction into gambling. Although it's not their fault because at the end of the day, it's the discipline of individual's gambler should matter, but still the risk to attract people and leave them addicted is always there.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 10, 2024, 09:51:34 PM
I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

There are such people will promote anything, no matter how bad or good, as long as it earns them money. I do not mind when people promote casinos or gambling but once they start lying and making fake statements in order to lure more people, I consider it a bad thing.

So it all depends on how they are promoting gambling which makes the difference of whether they are fueling addiction or just fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Distinctin on December 10, 2024, 09:58:32 PM
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.


I certainly agree on this. Livestreamers are just doing what their job requires in order to get paid and be in profits. As long as the audience get attracted and eventually play, that's already their goal, they won't be accountable anymore if ever addiction grows later on. That's actually the reason why I don't see livestreaming is an ideal job. Yes, it's the latest trend in the social media but I won't ever develop passion on this kind of job.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 10, 2024, 10:10:42 PM
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.

Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 11, 2024, 09:01:37 AM

Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.

But I'm sure that's just a few of them and the number can probably still be counted, more of them actually show everything that is tempting to the audience and their goal is only one, which is so that the audience does not hesitate to get involved and register there. We agree here, because after all, we often see people who are even willing to do anything just to get money, meaning it's very small for someone to miss such a good opportunity. So the point is, I think it all comes back to each of us, I hope that all of us, especially people who accidentally or intentionally watch shows from streamers, can always see everything we find from various sides and consider it first before making a decision, the solution in my opinion is only one, namely by being rational and wise when finding something new that we see, it is useful to keep us from making careless decisions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: sompitonov on December 11, 2024, 10:04:26 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ricardo11 on December 11, 2024, 10:26:25 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
I agree with you, steamers main aim is to attract viewers, they often highlight their big wins and thus create excitement among the viewers to gamble, Steamers make everything look like it's really easy to win, And with that in mind the visitors started gambling in the casino under the guidance of those steamers, and they always end up losing. So one should be careful while watching such content, and understand that what is shown in the video and how easily they win, it will never happen in reality ever.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Yamifoud on December 11, 2024, 10:39:08 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
So, we can say they're injecting the wrong ideas about gambling into their audience. Of course, casino owners hire them to make money, and these influencers are also determined to trick new gamblers into big profits. Their portrayal of easy wins is incredibly captivating, but what most people don't realize is that it's just not how real gambling life works. I get their perspective, but honestly, it's not a good look. I promote gambling responsibly instead of showing them things that are certainly impossible.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 11, 2024, 11:38:04 AM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Desperate to find ways to have some advantage, a kind of mindset that most gamblers have in mind. Thinking that with the help of those streamers they will be able to take some knowledge and will give them some opportunity to win, but the fact remains those casino owners are willing to pay someone to bring traffics and referrals to add more potential clients that will going to lose their money while playing using the platform.

You need to keep in mind that streamers are just doing their job and they are more into the money side and they don't care about anyone as long as they are being paid and they are cashing out thier fair shares.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: red4slash on December 11, 2024, 09:24:20 PM
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.


I certainly agree on this. Livestreamers are just doing what their job requires in order to get paid and be in profits. As long as the audience get attracted and eventually play, that's already their goal, they won't be accountable anymore if ever addiction grows later on. That's actually the reason why I don't see livestreaming is an ideal job. Yes, it's the latest trend in the social media but I won't ever develop passion on this kind of job.


Because being in gambling is the persuasive right of everyone so that all are free to choose whether they want to gamble or not, including in the work done in the end because after all it cannot be denied that for some people with quite a lot of followers because they are considered big streamers, their presence on one of these sites will be an attraction in itself and this is a normal thing for promotion because not only small sites, even large sites dare to attract some big names who are used as brand ambassadors or just stream to make that their gambling is good.

As for the streamers, it is the same as us players because the choice is in their own hands so we also cannot blame them for accepting jobs as gambling streamers because they work and they are paid to do so where it is purely a job demand and the impact felt later for their fans will not care because they only show their activities on camera regardless of whether their followers follow or not it doesn't matter.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 11, 2024, 11:27:57 PM
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.

But I'm sure that's just a few of them and the number can probably still be counted, more of them actually show everything that is tempting to the audience and their goal is only one, which is so that the audience does not hesitate to get involved and register there. We agree here, because after all, we often see people who are even willing to do anything just to get money, meaning it's very small for someone to miss such a good opportunity. So the point is, I think it all comes back to each of us, I hope that all of us, especially people who accidentally or intentionally watch shows from streamers, can always see everything we find from various sides and consider it first before making a decision, the solution in my opinion is only one, namely by being rational and wise when finding something new that we see, it is useful to keep us from making careless decisions.
That is probably the case and the solution.

It's true that we need to be wise if ever we find some streamers out there and trying to entice every viewer that they have telling to gamble on this specific sponsored casino of theirs.

But that doesn't mean that we have to unless you're a truly fan of that streamer, we're not in obligation to follow everything they say. If that guy is enjoyable to watch, just live it there as that.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Distinctin on December 11, 2024, 11:34:30 PM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Desperate to find ways to have some advantage, a kind of mindset that most gamblers have in mind. Thinking that with the help of those streamers they will be able to take some knowledge and will give them some opportunity to win, but the fact remains those casino owners are willing to pay someone to bring traffics and referrals to add more potential clients that will going to lose their money while playing using the platform.

You need to keep in mind that streamers are just doing their job and they are more into the money side and they don't care about anyone as long as they are being paid and they are cashing out thier fair shares.
True, and even if they are losing in their streams, they still get paid by the casino owner, so it's still a win-win for them. Unlike us who only sees the shallow part of their streaming, and just easily believe that gambling could be the answer of our financial struggles. That's when we bet, we always want to give our best shot in order to make huge returns as well, but that is not how gambling works. The edge remains in the house, while we consistently lose and used up our hard-earned money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hirose UK on December 12, 2024, 01:38:43 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
So, we can say they're injecting the wrong ideas about gambling into their audience. Of course, casino owners hire them to make money, and these influencers are also determined to trick new gamblers into big profits. Their portrayal of easy wins is incredibly captivating, but what most people don't realize is that it's just not how real gambling life works. I get their perspective, but honestly, it's not a good look. I promote gambling responsibly instead of showing them things that are certainly impossible.
That is the main goals, they streamers do everything to get paid money and can earn more bonuses while casinos employ famous people to promote their gambling sites by becoming an effort to introduce gambling sites more widely and get more customers, there will be more money coming in and circulating in the gambling site bankroll when all these efforts are successful.
Moreover, in business there is no such thing as right or wrong, if you are businessman you will definitely do some things that have the potential to develop it even though some other people consider it wrong and excessive.
I don't trust streamers but after all they work and that is their profession.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 12, 2024, 02:31:20 AM
True, and even if they are losing in their streams, they still get paid by the casino owner, so it's still a win-win for them. Unlike us who only sees the shallow part of their streaming, and just easily believe that gambling could be the answer of our financial struggles. That's when we bet, we always want to give our best shot in order to make huge returns as well, but that is not how gambling works. The edge remains in the house, while we consistently lose and used up our hard-earned money.
If we know about that, we don't have to have a big hopes to win like them because we will still difficult to win. We can only play any gambling games and enjoy it while we have our spare time. Those streamer can win because of the casino back up them and arrange that so the streamer can give an interesting entertainment related to gambling. They just give an entertainment and fun and not fueling addiction because we control ourselves when playing gambling. But if you think that you can win like those streamers, you will feel difficult to win because you are not those streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on December 12, 2024, 03:27:47 AM
True, and even if they are losing in their streams, they still get paid by the casino owner, so it's still a win-win for them. Unlike us who only sees the shallow part of their streaming, and just easily believe that gambling could be the answer of our financial struggles. That's when we bet, we always want to give our best shot in order to make huge returns as well, but that is not how gambling works. The edge remains in the house, while we consistently lose and used up our hard-earned money.
If we know about that, we don't have to have a big hopes to win like them because we will still difficult to win. We can only play any gambling games and enjoy it while we have our spare time. Those streamer can win because of the casino back up them and arrange that so the streamer can give an interesting entertainment related to gambling. They just give an entertainment and fun and not fueling addiction because we control ourselves when playing gambling. But if you think that you can win like those streamers, you will feel difficult to win because you are not those streamers.

Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 12, 2024, 04:06:52 AM
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.
Well, they really care about their audience, and you know how these streamers care for their audiences. By giving away some money for those who registered under their referral link. :D Funny, right? That's what I see in most of the streamers currently, but in general, that's their way of showing their care for them.

What I said is a sarcastic one because at the end of the day, rewarding your audience isn't enough for a person that got addicted because you as a streamer introduced online gambling to him/her. I've seen posts on Reddit regarding a person who got addicted to gambling just because the influencer that he idolizes streamed online gambling on his Facebook page, and since he idolizes that streamer, he registered on his referral link, gambled, and lost everything.

As for the fact that they're doing it because they need to earn as well, it might be true, but you can't change the fact that these streamers are partly the reason why there are many gamblers that are getting addicted into online gambling. There are some of their followers that can easily attracted to easy money hence, they'll gamble. Can't blame though because it's their decision. Still, these streamers are partly to blame why there are gamblers that are miserable right now.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bubilas on December 12, 2024, 05:52:05 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.

Most likely, this is true, because the statistics of streamers' winnings are always higher and this is alarming. I recently wondered why people are only interested in watching these streamers? And I realized that, in fact, when we watch him, then before our eyes this person's life can change because of the jackpot. And this is interesting, because especially if we know that this guy has a hard life now, then we will subconsciously make him win.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: kotajikikox on December 12, 2024, 06:16:02 AM
I recently wondered why people are only interested in watching these streamers? And I realized that, in fact, when we watch him, then before our eyes this person's life can change because of the jackpot. And this is interesting, because especially if we know that this guy has a hard life now, then we will subconsciously make him win.
All streamers are in one way or another fabricating something. Maybe it just differs by to what extent they lie about but they can only manipulate what they show us. Why do people still watch these streamers? Maybe they find it entertaining or maybe they are just trying to get some ideas about the platform or specific game the streamer is trying.

If you want to watch these streamers, take everything they say with a grain of salt but it can still give you some vague idea about whatever it is you want to learn about by watching other people try it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 12, 2024, 07:59:16 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.

Most likely, this is true, because the statistics of streamers' winnings are always higher and this is alarming. I recently wondered why people are only interested in watching these streamers? And I realized that, in fact, when we watch him, then before our eyes this person's life can change because of the jackpot. And this is interesting, because especially if we know that this guy has a hard life now, then we will subconsciously make him win.
Even myself do really have that kind of question on why other people would really be that so interested when it comes on watching out people or those streamers playing time specially on slots game on where pushing up those roll button doesnt sound to be that fun rather than you are the ones who are really that playing on. Although each person are really that different when it comes to interest and preferences on different things including gambling. Newbies are usually that easily getting hooked by this because they will really be having those initial impressions that they can also make money on the moment that they do play slots, but on the moment that reality would be slapping into their faces then this is where realization do really kicks in.

Playing gambling should really be just that for fun and if you arent that good when it comes on controlling your emotion then this is where issues do usually comes out. Better be watchful with the decisions that you are making and not really just that easily getting that becoming greedy so that you wont really be ending up on having some issues in regarding about financial. We do usually taking up some actions on the moment or time that we do experience unfortunate conditions and not really making up some step to avoid it out at least and able to stop those potential disasters that would come up into you.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: sompitonov on December 12, 2024, 10:43:22 AM
Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
I agree with you, steamers main aim is to attract viewers, they often highlight their big wins and thus create excitement among the viewers to gamble, Steamers make everything look like it's really easy to win, And with that in mind the visitors started gambling in the casino under the guidance of those steamers, and they always end up losing. So one should be careful while watching such content, and understand that what is shown in the video and how easily they win, it will never happen in reality ever.
That's why I don't watch them and won't do it in the future, because they program us to play anyway. The only thing is that I can only watch 1 poker streamer, whom I've been following for about 10 years. But I quit poker a long time ago and don't play, I'm more interested in his life and what countries he travels to, as well as how he shows his life. But I like his calmness and reasonableness, and the game is just an addition. In addition, the logic of decision-making is interesting, but still, despite this, I don't watch it for more than 30 minutes and then only if I remember about him)


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: JiiBs on December 12, 2024, 11:15:18 AM
But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.
That would be one way to do it. This gambling streamers aren’t doing that just because of the gambling alone but, what they stand to get from streamers. Not to mention that, some of those streaming would like to seek them out on how to go about gambling aside from just streaming them. Some would even go for subscription packages if they allow one and just like that, they have more than one way to making money for themselves while, they could be gambling on demo all along. A few might use real money but, it could be the money generated from streamers, who knows.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 12, 2024, 11:40:10 AM
Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Desperate to find ways to have some advantage, a kind of mindset that most gamblers have in mind. Thinking that with the help of those streamers they will be able to take some knowledge and will give them some opportunity to win, but the fact remains those casino owners are willing to pay someone to bring traffics and referrals to add more potential clients that will going to lose their money while playing using the platform.

You need to keep in mind that streamers are just doing their job and they are more into the money side and they don't care about anyone as long as they are being paid and they are cashing out thier fair shares.
True, and even if they are losing in their streams, they still get paid by the casino owner, so it's still a win-win for them. Unlike us who only sees the shallow part of their streaming, and just easily believe that gambling could be the answer of our financial struggles. That's when we bet, we always want to give our best shot in order to make huge returns as well, but that is not how gambling works. The edge remains in the house, while we consistently lose and used up our hard-earned money.

Unfortunately gamblers don't see that picture and they use to believe that same with the results that they've got streamers are also losing but behind that streamers still gaining from the house that they are promoting, even how true the game and the outcome behind it is the fact that streamers are earning money from the service that they are providing for the casino site, and with that, casinos are willing to provide that benefits as they also gaining, a win-win situation for both the owners and the streamers which really give this industry a life-line to continue and to earn decently.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: vs2014 on December 12, 2024, 12:48:59 PM
I am not one to judge these streamers because I think they are just looking for jobs. Be it a fuel of gambling addiction or just promoting fun. I do believe that in their mind they are just promoting the online casino but there will always be those who will abuse the fun and try to make a living out of gambling which leads to addiction.
I don't think that is their fault anymore. It's on us if we become gambling addicts, we forgot to be responsible with what we do, that's why.
If someone gets addicted to gambling then he has to take the responsibility because when you win money you don't share it with someone. No one is forcing me to gamble and I am doing it of my own free will. Because most people depend on gambling money for their livelihood. Most of the addicted gamblers in my area are in their age 40-50. That means they have been gambling for the past few years so even today he is addicted. And some rich people are gambling in front of everyone and enjoying themselves. It is really personal freedom that anyone who has money can do anything.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 12, 2024, 01:20:28 PM

But I'm sure that's just a few of them and the number can probably still be counted, more of them actually show everything that is tempting to the audience and their goal is only one, which is so that the audience does not hesitate to get involved and register there. We agree here, because after all, we often see people who are even willing to do anything just to get money, meaning it's very small for someone to miss such a good opportunity. So the point is, I think it all comes back to each of us, I hope that all of us, especially people who accidentally or intentionally watch shows from streamers, can always see everything we find from various sides and consider it first before making a decision, the solution in my opinion is only one, namely by being rational and wise when finding something new that we see, it is useful to keep us from making careless decisions.
That is probably the case and the solution.

It's true that we need to be wise if ever we find some streamers out there and trying to entice every viewer that they have telling to gamble on this specific sponsored casino of theirs.

But that doesn't mean that we have to unless you're a truly fan of that streamer, we're not in obligation to follow everything they say. If that guy is enjoyable to watch, just live it there as that.

Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 12, 2024, 01:51:41 PM
I recently wondered why people are only interested in watching these streamers? And I realized that, in fact, when we watch him, then before our eyes this person's life can change because of the jackpot. And this is interesting, because especially if we know that this guy has a hard life now, then we will subconsciously make him win.
All streamers are in one way or another fabricating something. Maybe it just differs by to what extent they lie about but they can only manipulate what they show us. Why do people still watch these streamers? Maybe they find it entertaining or maybe they are just trying to get some ideas about the platform or specific game the streamer is trying.

If you want to watch these streamers, take everything they say with a grain of salt but it can still give you some vague idea about whatever it is you want to learn about by watching other people try it.
There are several things that can happen, including those who are entertained or those who are looking for references to gambling sites because the purpose of streamers who gamble is none other than to attract more people to watch it, for those who do find references to gambling sites, they are the group of people who will be interested when the streamer manages to show the victory he got, with the alibi of the strategy he has, making them want to try gambling on the promoted site. In addition, something that streamers can do is manipulate their winnings, the aim is to attract many people to believe that the site promoted by the streamer is indeed easy to give victory to its players, and for those who are thirsty for victory will believe this so they are likely to be interested in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: TopTort777 on December 12, 2024, 02:15:33 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Betwrong on December 12, 2024, 03:35:22 PM
In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling,

Yes it can, but on the other hand, showing main characters drinking alcohol in movies can trigger addiction to alcohol too, and watching how people eat delicious cakes  can dangerous for those overweight. Should we ban alcohol drinking and delicious food eating in movies? I don't think so.

maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing

If you wrote that intentionally and not to just increase your character count for your sig campaign, I would argue with that. What "tricks"? In purely luck-based games there can be no tricks.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 12, 2024, 04:43:10 PM

As for bringing up that addiction then we cant deny that it could really be fire up that urge to gamble specially if you've seen these influencers do make huge amount of money at the time that they are playing. You will really be having these thoughts that you can be able to easily do it just the same on the things that they were able to achieve. On the moment that will be trying out to copy them then this will really be causing up that kind of impulsiveness and desperation specially that you are trying out to catch up those wins that they had made out.

Undoubtedly things are moving in that direction, you can say that when a type of people is established that we follow and that are very famous, well, they move masses, if they tell you to do x thing, many will do it, so that is something that sometimes casinos take advantage of, however we as people, as players we must be aware that sometimes things go because of marketing and that marketing is what can lead to that, the addiction streamers, because it happens a lot like you say, the followers of those influencers become very focused on doing things the way they want them and that is what is dangerous.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 12, 2024, 09:42:01 PM
Well, they really care about their audience, and you know how these streamers care for their audiences. By giving away some money for those who registered under their referral link. :D Funny, right? That's what I see in most of the streamers currently, but in general, that's their way of showing their care for them.

What I said is a sarcastic one because at the end of the day, rewarding your audience isn't enough for a person that got addicted because you as a streamer introduced online gambling to him/her. I've seen posts on Reddit regarding a person who got addicted to gambling just because the influencer that he idolizes streamed online gambling on his Facebook page, and since he idolizes that streamer, he registered on his referral link, gambled, and lost everything.

As for the fact that they're doing it because they need to earn as well, it might be true, but you can't change the fact that these streamers are partly the reason why there are many gamblers that are getting addicted into online gambling. There are some of their followers that can easily attracted to easy money hence, they'll gamble. Can't blame though because it's their decision. Still, these streamers are partly to blame why there are gamblers that are miserable right now.
That's true, now that you have said that. You made me remember how they're so active telling people to register under their link, they get commission and at the same time they're also getting a tracking link on how effective they are as an advertiser or ambassador of that casino.

Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.
I agree.

With the streams that I have seen, most of them are unreal. They're just putting some hype on the casino they advertise and that's what they want to show to their audience.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Raflesia on December 12, 2024, 09:49:50 PM

As for bringing up that addiction then we cant deny that it could really be fire up that urge to gamble specially if you've seen these influencers do make huge amount of money at the time that they are playing. You will really be having these thoughts that you can be able to easily do it just the same on the things that they were able to achieve. On the moment that will be trying out to copy them then this will really be causing up that kind of impulsiveness and desperation specially that you are trying out to catch up those wins that they had made out.

Undoubtedly things are moving in that direction, you can say that when a type of people is established that we follow and that are very famous, well, they move masses, if they tell you to do x thing, many will do it, so that is something that sometimes casinos take advantage of, however we as people, as players we must be aware that sometimes things go because of marketing and that marketing is what can lead to that, the addiction streamers, because it happens a lot like you say, the followers of those influencers become very focused on doing things the way they want them and that is what is dangerous.

But even if such a thing is true when talking about gambling in the end it is not that simple because in the end this kind of thing only a small part happens for new players because it cannot be denied that almost all people who do gambling are purely from their own desires not the result of other people's coercion. Although there may be some people who gamble because they are forced by others but in the end it is only a small part of the majority of people who gamble on their own.

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on December 12, 2024, 10:26:43 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

You should also keep in mind people watch streamers play videogames because of the charisma of the streamer themselves as well, and not completely because the viewers cannot afford to get a copy of the game. For instance, there are games which are free to play like overwatch, Fortnite and Dota; even games which do not take much of graphical power out of a computer like Among us, the charisma and the personality of the streamer is a very important aspect of the experience when comes to both gaming streaming and also video games streaming, though understand your point when you compare gambling to videogames.
I believe those who are attracted to streamer who gamble are gamblers themselves who have run out of money already and still desire to get some kind of "thrill", so they opt to see someone else playing, it is like when children used to gather around arcade machines to see others to play when they did not have coins left to continue to have fun.
To each they own, though, I am sure of you asked several people who like streaming gambling, they would reply with different reasons they consume such content.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Victorybit1 on December 12, 2024, 10:29:06 PM
Gambling streamers get paid by casinos to advertise so basically they are just trying to make money but this can also be a way of fueling addiction, when people get lured and enticed by those fake wins that are being displayed they might be Tempted to give it a try. I wouldn't really say that they promote fun because it has a lot of negative impacts on people. The most affected people are those that are young, these are the Targeted audience, they are more naive and as a result of this tend to fall for these scams


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: boltz on December 12, 2024, 10:29:56 PM
Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.





Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 13, 2024, 04:11:53 AM
Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.
Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: TopTort777 on December 13, 2024, 12:16:12 PM
I believe those who are attracted to streamer who gamble are gamblers themselves who have run out of money already and still desire to get some kind of "thrill", so they opt to see someone else playing, it is like when children used to gather around arcade machines to see others to play when they did not have coins left to continue to have fun.

Why would such gambler who wants to get that "thrill" again dont gamble with game money? He will get more involved in the process than just watching. Honestly, kids that used to gather around arcade machine are not the best example. They did that because they dont have alternatives. Now most of kids have their own arcade machine (gaming console), gadgets. Gamblers also have lots of alternatives, such as playing with game money, or downloading game and play unlimited (meaning they need internet connection to gamble with play money on online gambling page).


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: irsykes on December 13, 2024, 12:42:43 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
The concept of gambling is to promote gambling websites. to attract people to bet on gambling websites that are essentially promoted by streamers. I'm sure streamers use accounts that have been set up by gambling companies to make them look attractive when people watch and get them interested in betting. it's true that streamers promote fun


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 13, 2024, 01:26:05 PM
Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.
Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

Being practical is a wise thing to do when you are watching streamers who's sharing their gambling  strategy, knowing that they are doing it for the sake of money that they'll going to earn, though we know that there are avid followers who can get the attention and will blindly follow those strategy we can't remove that possibilities, there are different approach and different perspectives on how they'll take what they are witnessing from streamers that they'll love to follow.

People do follow streamers are prone being caught as they might believe that the video that they are watching might also happen to them, especially those big wins, most people wanted to experienced that and they'll think that if luck permits they may have that same outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on December 13, 2024, 02:13:57 PM
Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.
Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

Of course, and also actually even if for example the big win is achieved by someone else and not by the streamers, or what is meant is that those who managed to get the big win are ordinary gamblers like us, then it doesn't mean that we will also be able to get results like them even if for example we gamble in the same way as they do, because after all like the concept of gambling in general that the results in the next time do not depend on the previous results.

The point is whoever manages to win especially outside of a streamer then it is a result that occurs because of luck that comes at the right time, and on the other hand what you said is true that often people think that they will also be able to get the same luck as the streamers if only they gamble on the site promoted by the streamers, when in fact it is a manipulated result, but the point is as I said before that we must always be wise when finding new things.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 13, 2024, 04:29:15 PM
Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.
I agree.

With the streams that I have seen, most of them are unreal. They're just putting some hype on the casino they advertise and that's what they want to show to their audience.

If you can assume that the results of the victories obtained by the streamers are not real, it means that you are really able to use your common sense and rational point of view well, my friend, and that is what we should do before we make a decision as I have said above. On the other hand, what also makes me feel strange is that I have never seen a streamer who experiences defeat when they are broadcasting, 90% of them always manage to achieve big wins very easily and of course the situation is the opposite of the situation we experience when we are gambling which is actually much more defeat than victory, and from there we can actually conclude that we should be suspicious and not easily tempted by anything that seems too easy to get.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Ishicryptic on December 13, 2024, 05:17:42 PM
Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.
Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.
Streamers are doing paid jobs and whatever they do is to please who is paying them, that is why I don't take gambling streamers too seriously, it's most probable that everything we see them do are programmed to entice more people to try out gambling. My concern is for the people that are watching them and don't know how gambling works in reality, they will think that it is a gateway to quick riches but in reality it is not. In gambling there are more loses than wins, people who don't understand this simple fact will watch streamers and jump into gambling with all their money and most probably experience more loses than wins. In the process of recovering loses they might become addicted. People who gamble needs to learn how to gamble responsibly, not getting carried away by what they watch on social media


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 13, 2024, 05:46:35 PM
I read how people keep giving excuses for these social media gamble influencers about a whole lot of them don't really have a little or good idea of what they are promoting to their fans. And am perplexed with each times I come across these flimsy excuses made on behalf of these well educated and informed guys who harps mainly for the cash they are paid to do what they do and scarcely have no best interest of their followers in mind.

Sometimes followers do Whatever it takes to gain Followers, more Audiences, or the bad thing is that many do not tell the truth and make the site's Advertising look easy to get money from them, that is what you should be most afraid of and careful about , it is very easy for them to be deceived, but those who fall the most are the people who are new to Casinos, seeing that there are so many opportunities and that an influencer bets big, many want to do the same , but it is in most cases that they fail.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 13, 2024, 10:40:51 PM
I agree.

With the streams that I have seen, most of them are unreal. They're just putting some hype on the casino they advertise and that's what they want to show to their audience.

If you can assume that the results of the victories obtained by the streamers are not real, it means that you are really able to use your common sense and rational point of view well, my friend, and that is what we should do before we make a decision as I have said above. On the other hand, what also makes me feel strange is that I have never seen a streamer who experiences defeat when they are broadcasting, 90% of them always manage to achieve big wins very easily and of course the situation is the opposite of the situation we experience when we are gambling which is actually much more defeat than victory, and from there we can actually conclude that we should be suspicious and not easily tempted by anything that seems too easy to get.
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on December 14, 2024, 01:22:23 AM
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.
Of course, there are also those who use their own real money, and maybe their main goal is to want their personal account to become popular with many people following them and becoming their followers because after that there will be benefits that they can get, but maybe with those who have a very large balance and also with a very large bet amount, not all streamers use their real money, I just can't understand why they dare to use a large bet amount and allocate a large amount of money if it is real money. In addition, you must have seen where there are streamers who put a gambling watermark on their screens besides that they provide gambling links that have been prepared for their viewers who are interested in gambling, this is one of the profit-making strategies that they do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 14, 2024, 03:46:56 AM
Being practical is a wise thing to do when you are watching streamers who's sharing their gambling  strategy, knowing that they are doing it for the sake of money that they'll going to earn, though we know that there are avid followers who can get the attention and will blindly follow those strategy we can't remove that possibilities, there are different approach and different perspectives on how they'll take what they are witnessing from streamers that they'll love to follow.

People do follow streamers are prone being caught as they might believe that the video that they are watching might also happen to them, especially those big wins, most people wanted to experienced that and they'll think that if luck permits they may have that same outcome.
It is why we must be wise and calm down ourselves when watching an interactive videos from streamers and just consider that is an interesting videos without any intention to follow what they do. Those streamers just do what their job and we do our job which is watch the video and skip it if we thinks that the videos can make us tempt. We don't have to think what other people will do after they watch the videos because we must responsible with ourselves and not let us getting the same like them.

We don't have to think that we can win like the streamers because we are different than them. We are just people who want to search for fun and we have so many things that we can do and not just use gambling. We must thinks that we can not do the same as the streamers who can win easily on the gambling games. Their job is to tempt people with their winning so we must be careful and not follow what they do.

Of course, and also actually even if for example the big win is achieved by someone else and not by the streamers, or what is meant is that those who managed to get the big win are ordinary gamblers like us, then it doesn't mean that we will also be able to get results like them even if for example we gamble in the same way as they do, because after all like the concept of gambling in general that the results in the next time do not depend on the previous results.

The point is whoever manages to win especially outside of a streamer then it is a result that occurs because of luck that comes at the right time, and on the other hand what you said is true that often people think that they will also be able to get the same luck as the streamers if only they gamble on the site promoted by the streamers, when in fact it is a manipulated result, but the point is as I said before that we must always be wise when finding new things.
The streamers can get big win in their videos while we will difficult to get the same as them whether we use big money, that doesn't guarantee us to get the big win. Their videos will show their big win and makes people tempt and want to try but we must understand that is just an entertain that the streamers gives to us. We as audience must think that the streamers doing their job and we don't have to follow them especially if we just want to watch their videos.

If people can win from gambling because of following the streamers, that is because of their luck come in the right time. But they will not easily to win in the next rounds because casino will not let you win many times. It is why people must realize that when they can win big, they must stop gambling immediately and takes their win money out from the casino so they can enjoy it.

Streamers are doing paid jobs and whatever they do is to please who is paying them, that is why I don't take gambling streamers too seriously, it's most probable that everything we see them do are programmed to entice more people to try out gambling. My concern is for the people that are watching them and don't know how gambling works in reality, they will think that it is a gateway to quick riches but in reality it is not. In gambling there are more loses than wins, people who don't understand this simple fact will watch streamers and jump into gambling with all their money and most probably experience more loses than wins. In the process of recovering loses they might become addicted. People who gamble needs to learn how to gamble responsibly, not getting carried away by what they watch on social media
Streamers getting paid of their job but we don't get anything and just spend our money to follow their way to wins in the casino. But we will not have a big chance to win from the casino because that is what will happen to most people. So we must understand that we don't have to feel sad if we lose but we must control the losses not to become big. The win from the streamers can tempt many people to follow playing gambling but not with us because we know that the streamers win is because the casino helps them to give an interesting entertainment to the audience. That is why we must educate ourselves and realize that the reality will not as easy as we imagine so we must control ourselves when watching the videos.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Koadharber on December 14, 2024, 04:03:06 AM
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.
Of course, there are also those who use their own real money, and maybe their main goal is to want their personal account to become popular with many people following them and becoming their followers because after that there will be benefits that they can get, but maybe with those who have a very large balance and also with a very large bet amount, not all streamers use their real money, I just can't understand why they dare to use a large bet amount and allocate a large amount of money if it is real money. In addition, you must have seen where there are streamers who put a gambling watermark on their screens besides that they provide gambling links that have been prepared for their viewers who are interested in gambling, this is one of the profit-making strategies that they do.
But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: nara1892 on December 14, 2024, 08:06:29 AM
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.
Of course, there are also those who use their own real money, and maybe their main goal is to want their personal account to become popular with many people following them and becoming their followers because after that there will be benefits that they can get, but maybe with those who have a very large balance and also with a very large bet amount, not all streamers use their real money, I just can't understand why they dare to use a large bet amount and allocate a large amount of money if it is real money. In addition, you must have seen where there are streamers who put a gambling watermark on their screens besides that they provide gambling links that have been prepared for their viewers who are interested in gambling, this is one of the profit-making strategies that they do.
But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.

If you do have a lot of suspicions like that about streamers after seeing them doing live broadcasts then maybe I would say that you have successfully used your common sense properly and correctly so that you say that what you see from what the streamers do is unreasonable. On the other hand, of course I also agree with you, because it seems very easy for streamers to get a lot of wins in just a short period of time, they are like gamblers who already have a code to crack the algorithm in each game to win, and that is very different from the reality that we experience when we gamble where defeat is much more dominant than victory, meaning I strongly agree that the ease of streamers in achieving victory occurs because of an agreement that occurs behind the scenes between the casino and the streamers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 14, 2024, 10:02:16 AM

If you can assume that the results of the victories obtained by the streamers are not real, it means that you are really able to use your common sense and rational point of view well, my friend, and that is what we should do before we make a decision as I have said above. On the other hand, what also makes me feel strange is that I have never seen a streamer who experiences defeat when they are broadcasting, 90% of them always manage to achieve big wins very easily and of course the situation is the opposite of the situation we experience when we are gambling which is actually much more defeat than victory, and from there we can actually conclude that we should be suspicious and not easily tempted by anything that seems too easy to get.
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.

Yes, that's just one case and it's not always like that, or I mean not all streamers always find it easy to win, but the majority of them do more shows with various things that look very tempting, one of which is the ease of winning.

On the other hand, I don't know if what you said is true or not about some streamers who do gambling shows using real money, but what is certain is that more of them use fake money and also if it is true that they use real money then in my opinion maybe it is money that has been provided by the casino as a facility for streamers.

Yups the idea in your last paragraph is right about common sense, and I will say another reason why we should always be wise and use common sense when assessing various new things that we find, namely so that we are not wrong in concluding and making decisions, in my opinion the point is regardless of whether the streamer gambles using play money or real money, the point is if for example they gamble while doing shows and also include a site link, then that means they are doing a promotion.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: gunhell16 on December 14, 2024, 10:39:00 AM
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.
Of course, there are also those who use their own real money, and maybe their main goal is to want their personal account to become popular with many people following them and becoming their followers because after that there will be benefits that they can get, but maybe with those who have a very large balance and also with a very large bet amount, not all streamers use their real money, I just can't understand why they dare to use a large bet amount and allocate a large amount of money if it is real money. In addition, you must have seen where there are streamers who put a gambling watermark on their screens besides that they provide gambling links that have been prepared for their viewers who are interested in gambling, this is one of the profit-making strategies that they do.
But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.

The majority of streamers, if we are just going by facts, do not actually use their own money to gamble at the casino they are promoting. There are only two ways they make money there. First, they get paid for advertising and second, they have referral bonuses for any of their followers who sign up under their link at the casino.

Maybe if there are any who are actually playing, it is the money they will gamble with and it is guaranteed to be a large amount, but they will only show a small amount because most of the time they are really just using a demo account.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Zadicar on December 14, 2024, 01:07:10 PM

The majority of streamers, if we are just going by facts, do not actually use their own money to gamble at the casino they are promoting. There are only two ways they make money there. First, they get paid for advertising and second, they have referral bonuses for any of their followers who sign up under their link at the casino.

Maybe if there are any who are actually playing, it is the money they will gamble with and it is guaranteed to be a large amount, but they will only show a small amount because most of the time they are really just using a demo account.
I do agree with most people sentiments or opinions that they will not be using their own money for them to gamble while doing their job, not unless if they will really be that having some reimbursement on the amount that you have used but this is unlikely or not that happening because most of them will really be funded or been provided by the company. Fueling addiction turned out to be true at the time or moment that you will really be that going along into the emotions that you are really that currently feeling on at the time or moment that you do play gambling. Its not really that bad if to gamble on which this one really that needed up to have that control.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 14, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bettercrypto on December 14, 2024, 01:49:40 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.

That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

Then when they had a lot of followers, gambling advertisers contacted streamers who had 100,000 or more followers and offered them a large amount that the streamers would have a hard time refusing. And most of their target followers were ML (mobile legends) gamers and some at Ragnarok players.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Woodie on December 14, 2024, 01:54:40 PM
First and foremost,  streamers choose what or who to promote and that's their choice because we all know it's about the money for them.

Secondly, streamers can't be solely responsible for fueling addiction because the industry expects users to be of a certain age to make informed decisions as an adult!!! And if am not mistaken most gambling platforms have something in their T&Cs to do with self exclusion,  and this being an entertainment industry..something in those lines..

And btw, if someone wins big do these same streamers get the same credit as the addiction finger pointing that goes on ??? I thought so, everyone should be responsible for their decisions and not a third party.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: rachael9385 on December 14, 2024, 04:13:25 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.
The mistakes some people do is that they have believed on those streamers that are just promoting a casino, that when they start gambling they will use the pattern the promoter said on the video. Well those gamblers should know that the promoters don't have anything to lose. Sometimes they share their invite code or promo codes online for new gamblers to use and when a new gambler successfully signed up, after he or she receives his or her first bonus through the promocode he used and successfully withdraw, if he's a greedy gambler, he will deposit again and continue gambling and that's how lose chasing starts


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: JiiBs on December 14, 2024, 04:21:01 PM
Secondly, streamers can't be solely responsible for fueling addiction because the industry expects users to be of a certain age to make informed decisions as an adult!!! And if am not mistaken most gambling platforms have something in their T&Cs to do with self exclusion,  and this being an entertainment industry..something in those lines..

If we look at it from a perspective that makes winning in gambling way too easy, then you could say they pretty much surprise level of attachment towards gambling from its viewers.

You know, here is this space where it’s highly criticized by so many that are oblivious and ignorant to gambling, having to tell you all about it and it’s always losses. Then you stream some of these guys making it seem easy before your eyes, you’re most likely going to pick up courage, every time you stream, you get more courages to make risky bets.

Either way, it’s always up to you being the gambler to make informed decision on how to go.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on December 14, 2024, 05:42:16 PM
First and foremost,  streamers choose what or who to promote and that's their choice because we all know it's about the money for them.

Secondly, streamers can't be solely responsible for fueling addiction because the industry expects users to be of a certain age to make informed decisions as an adult!!!.

To me it is quite unfair how some people dare to judge steamers based on what they advertise or promote, for example, some weeks ago there were streamers who were promoting a game called "Concord" which was pretty much a bad game and one of the biggest flops in the game industry, and yet they were paid to promote and say it was a pretty good addicting game for everyone to enjoy.
Being a streamer or an influencer is not easy, it means one is self-employed and one needs to carefully decide which sponsors who is going to accept and which ones one will turn away. Those streamers we are rather new and with a small number of viewers are in more pressure to accept being sponsored by casinos and gambling platforms, they are the ones which offer the most money and they ones which pay more attention to the community of streamers in the making.
I have seen 1xbet being sponsoring small YouTube channels which did not have anything to do with gambling, for example.

Whether one is an adult and has access to internet is quite irrelevant to the issue as it stands for now, though. It is very easy to cheat one's age in this modern era, even though KYC seems to be everywhere, it has not been applied yet in streaming and video services like YT.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Woodie on December 14, 2024, 06:02:40 PM
Being a streamer or an influencer is not easy, it means one is self-employed and one needs to carefully decide which sponsors who is going to accept and which ones one will turn away.
Coming to think of it, the streamers with small numbers are more likely targets to accept advertising anything because firstly they get paid for their time and lastly they don't care about their followers because their numbers are small .

Those streamers we are rather new and with a small number of viewers are in more pressure to accept being sponsored by casinos and gambling platforms, they are the ones which offer the most money and they ones which pay more attention to the community of streamers in the making.
Kind of agree 💯

I have seen 1xbet being sponsoring small YouTube channels which did not have anything to do with gambling, for example.
1xbet is aggressive that's for sure...here on the internet they might have a bad name but out there in the real world, people praise these guys with their incentives and all...

And the worst part is using people that have no idea about gambling and getting into a niche that has innocent people...guess this industry needs some kind of regulations to keep the innocent innocent.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 14, 2024, 07:33:30 PM
Since that they already have  money they don't need those ads and they wanted to protect their integrity, unlike with those other streamers where they are just aiming to earn views and visits they are all concerned about making money, most of those don't have any care about their viewers as long as they are receiving their rewards then they'll continue streaming videos and highlights those good side of the casino to gain more people to use the site and probably earn more money.

Yes, you're right, well I don't understand some streamers, because they can easily make a channel on tik tok and from there the money is more direct, they get people who can give it to them for doing their lives, in fact that social network is the most viral of all, so if they are looking for money they should focus on that one where they can monetize the most, there is no doubt about that, it can be said that if they already have some fame there it is very good.

Current streamers already have a lot of competition, they are already known and apart from that they have to create an audience, a community and that is very difficult, the strategies are many but the path is not easy.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on December 14, 2024, 07:40:32 PM
First and foremost,  streamers choose what or who to promote and that's their choice because we all know it's about the money for them.

Secondly, streamers can't be solely responsible for fueling addiction because the industry expects users to be of a certain age to make informed decisions as an adult!!!.

To me it is quite unfair how some people dare to judge steamers based on what they advertise or promote, for example, some weeks ago there were streamers who were promoting a game called "Concord" which was pretty much a bad game and one of the biggest flops in the game industry, and yet they were paid to promote and say it was a pretty good addicting game for everyone to enjoy.
Being a streamer or an influencer is not easy, it means one is self-employed and one needs to carefully decide which sponsors who is going to accept and which ones one will turn away. Those streamers we are rather new and with a small number of viewers are in more pressure to accept being sponsored by casinos and gambling platforms, they are the ones which offer the most money and they ones which pay more attention to the community of streamers in the making.
I have seen 1xbet being sponsoring small YouTube channels which did not have anything to do with gambling, for example.

Whether one is an adult and has access to internet is quite irrelevant to the issue as it stands for now, though. It is very easy to cheat one's age in this modern era, even though KYC seems to be everywhere, it has not been applied yet in streaming and video services like YT.
IMO, me who grow in bitcointalk for years promoting gambling platforms also aware with this kind of judgement. It will always depend on the person if they will bite the promotion, it's also not about in gambling, it's also in general, you buy something that looks cool or awesome that's promoted by a celebrity or streamers but in reality, it's not and can affect something in yourself. The hypocrisy of people in social media is really insane and people should learn that not all in social media should be believed or considered, we have our own minds to analyze what's good or bad to us.

I hate those people who acts godly in social media like they didn't play any gambling platform or maybe they're just jealous because the streamers receiving huge payout from a gambling platform.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 14, 2024, 11:08:32 PM
That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.

Yes, that's just one case and it's not always like that, or I mean not all streamers always find it easy to win, but the majority of them do more shows with various things that look very tempting, one of which is the ease of winning.

On the other hand, I don't know if what you said is true or not about some streamers who do gambling shows using real money, but what is certain is that more of them use fake money and also if it is true that they use real money then in my opinion maybe it is money that has been provided by the casino as a facility for streamers.

Yups the idea in your last paragraph is right about common sense, and I will say another reason why we should always be wise and use common sense when assessing various new things that we find, namely so that we are not wrong in concluding and making decisions, in my opinion the point is regardless of whether the streamer gambles using play money or real money, the point is if for example they gamble while doing shows and also include a site link, then that means they are doing a promotion.
That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on December 15, 2024, 03:00:14 PM
But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.
Previously, I myself did not believe that they used their own money to gamble in large amounts, but I found several accounts that did use their own money, in the live broadcast I saw a young man who gambled by openly asking his mother to pray for him so that he could get a big win in the gambling he did that time, although his mother answered a little annoyed but he did it. This makes me think that maybe he is a rich person so his gambling also uses his own money.

Some streamers may aim to get many people interested in gambling at the casino they are promoting, but I think there are also those who do it with their own money to increase their own popularity, and if they succeed, they seem to get cooperation with the casino that sees it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 15, 2024, 03:35:12 PM
Yes, that's just one case and it's not always like that, or I mean not all streamers always find it easy to win, but the majority of them do more shows with various things that look very tempting, one of which is the ease of winning.

On the other hand, I don't know if what you said is true or not about some streamers who do gambling shows using real money, but what is certain is that more of them use fake money and also if it is true that they use real money then in my opinion maybe it is money that has been provided by the casino as a facility for streamers.

Yups the idea in your last paragraph is right about common sense, and I will say another reason why we should always be wise and use common sense when assessing various new things that we find, namely so that we are not wrong in concluding and making decisions, in my opinion the point is regardless of whether the streamer gambles using play money or real money, the point is if for example they gamble while doing shows and also include a site link, then that means they are doing a promotion.
That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

Yes, it means we don't have to pay attention or investigate whether the streamer is broadcasting using real money or a demo account, because the scenarios can be different, or it could be that the casino provides the capital as a form of facility, or it could be that it is the streamer's personal money but will be replaced many times over by the casino after the agreement ends, so what we have to focus on here is the impact of the broadcast on the audience, which is certainly as you said that the emotions and pleasure that occur in the streamer in the broadcast can certainly trigger an increase in dopamine levels, confidence and trust in themselves and the minds of the audience, such as motivating and providing solutions to overcome financial problems, but clearly that is a lie, so this is the reason why we are always advised to use common sense and a rational point of view every time we find new things.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 15, 2024, 04:39:45 PM
But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.
Previously, I myself did not believe that they used their own money to gamble in large amounts, but I found several accounts that did use their own money, in the live broadcast I saw a young man who gambled by openly asking his mother to pray for him so that he could get a big win in the gambling he did that time, although his mother answered a little annoyed but he did it. This makes me think that maybe he is a rich person so his gambling also uses his own money.

Some streamers may aim to get many people interested in gambling at the casino they are promoting, but I think there are also those who do it with their own money to increase their own popularity, and if they succeed, they seem to get cooperation with the casino that sees it.

Possible, as they wanted to get the attention of the site though if they are using their own money and addiction triggers that will bring a big problem to them, knowing that in gambling there's always a chance that you'll going to get deep and your engagement will ruin your finances, that's another thing though as instead of getting the attention of the site and get the opportunities to promote them, when they see that you are losing decent amount of money they'll just let you keep playing and lose more.

Streamers most of the time use their popularities and like how the topic said they fueling gambling to those who don't have any idea and to those who follows them that already engage with gambling, the main intension is to work with the site nd use their play money to gain more people to watch and follow you to use the gambling site offer services.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 15, 2024, 09:11:20 PM
That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

Yes, it means we don't have to pay attention or investigate whether the streamer is broadcasting using real money or a demo account, because the scenarios can be different, or it could be that the casino provides the capital as a form of facility, or it could be that it is the streamer's personal money but will be replaced many times over by the casino after the agreement ends, so what we have to focus on here is the impact of the broadcast on the audience, which is certainly as you said that the emotions and pleasure that occur in the streamer in the broadcast can certainly trigger an increase in dopamine levels, confidence and trust in themselves and the minds of the audience, such as motivating and providing solutions to overcome financial problems, but clearly that is a lie, so this is the reason why we are always advised to use common sense and a rational point of view every time we find new things.
Most of the casinos that have sponsorship to the streamers, they're giving out balance. But I don't know if they're allowing them to withdraw it so it is working kind of a play money for demo purposes.

That's why I admire more those streamers that are using real money and gambles wherever they want without having any sponsorship from any casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on December 15, 2024, 09:40:36 PM

That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

It's fun that grows into addiction in most cases. Some streamers might just start out on the ground of having fun be it with fake or real money and over time they get overwhelmed by the fun and excitement especially when there is a recorded case of aega win. And in such cases the eagerness to engage more for a possible happy ending and turns out they get trapped in their own quest make a big blow and end up in addiction.

Anything that involves consistency grows into addiction over time. I also have this notion that anything that has money involved must have emotional attachment. The anxiety to win, the fear of losing, the consciousness of trying to make right choices. I mean the list is long and unending and at the end it turns out into addiction if not properly managed


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Orpichukwu on December 15, 2024, 09:52:32 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 10:26:03 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.
Most of these streamers and gambling influencers are in the vague of making consistent money for themselves without considering who is affected by their gambling influence and activities. Many streamers are not even chronic gamblers and they know how to make their games looks quite inviting to everyone that is ready to keep an attentive ears. Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Weawant on December 15, 2024, 10:50:41 PM
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
Meanwhile the streamers are streaming because they are making some good money off it so they keep their audience glued all the time. And of a truth people do stream to learn about some futures they didn't know about on a game and to get better at the game but it still doesn't eliminate addiction gotten of trying to be pro at the game, most times the gamers my get addicted trying so hard to learn because they will have to consistently play to be able to perfect their skills around some of the things they will be learning streeming.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: alastantiger on December 15, 2024, 11:48:42 PM
Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: jossiel on December 15, 2024, 11:58:30 PM
That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

It's fun that grows into addiction in most cases. Some streamers might just start out on the ground of having fun be it with fake or real money and over time they get overwhelmed by the fun and excitement especially when there is a recorded case of aega win. And in such cases the eagerness to engage more for a possible happy ending and turns out they get trapped in their own quest make a big blow and end up in addiction.

Anything that involves consistency grows into addiction over time. I also have this notion that anything that has money involved must have emotional attachment. The anxiety to win, the fear of losing, the consciousness of trying to make right choices. I mean the list is long and unending and at the end it turns out into addiction if not properly managed
Yes, the list is long with that as you're saying and it's true that if it's not managed properly, it could be wrong in the end.

While the streamers are simply having fun with their games and chitchat while doing their thing and games. They're also getting paid to do it so it's an easy motivation to do so.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 16, 2024, 03:28:03 AM
Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
I've seen lots of streamers here in our country that promotes and also convinces their followers to register on the website using their referral link. For me, they're the most selfish of the most selfish and the only thing that they're thinking is themselves. I despite them, but at the end of the day, the only thing that I can do is to rant and these followers will still have the final decision on whether they will gamble or not. They might be fueling addiction, but it's our decision as their followers if we will do it or not.

Well, I guess this is why they're being called as "INFLUENCERS" because they're influencing their followers, but this time, in a negative way. There are some that are streaming for the commission and profit of course, and don't care about their followers. There are some though that still care their followers, and you know how they care about them? Giving some cash to those who follows him on the SocMed platform and at the same time, registered under their referral link. Very selfish, right? Unfortunately, it seems like there's no stopping to these influencers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Zadicar on December 16, 2024, 04:30:36 AM
Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on December 16, 2024, 05:10:47 AM
Today I was casually watching videos on YouTube about gambling and I encountered some recopilations of clips of a guy who streams himself gambling on stake and also on chipps. He does not seem to be sponsored by any casino or any outside entity, even though he has a fairly popular kick channel.
He guy literally burns money on live and then proceeds to destroy furniture and his own bedroom door after losing thousands of dollars in games like Plinko,.mines and black jack (I have not seen him playing crash yet, though).

It is quite depressing how he even begs money to his viewers so he can continue to gamble for a little longer (and there is always someone willing to give him a little bit of a tip, so he can continue on).
It is a very high contrast to other gambling streamers which seemely have better look and are heavily sponsored by casinos of huge influence, having someone to throw away thousands of dollars while at the same time living a their parent's house and destroying their property out of rage is quite disturbing and depressing. It shows not all gambling streamers are lucky or can show off big gains thanks to their good luck...


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: hyudien on December 16, 2024, 05:47:53 AM

If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.
The goal of a streamer who has collaborated with a particular casino site, of course they will package it as attractively as possible to attract many people to register and play at the casino. That is a form of marketing that everyone will definitely do.
However, to force them, there must also be limits or they will also maintain their image. Or usually they will say something that sounds more subtle, for example by recommending where they play and even then they will always give a statement that they are not forcing.
This method can be said to be effective, because when a streamer has a big name, of course many people will believe it or at least they know that the recommended casino is not a fraudulent casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 16, 2024, 12:57:22 PM
Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.

Basically, before the streamers do streaming, they must have or prepared a plan about how the broadcast scenario they will do, and of course there will be no element of coercion, at least maybe just an idea like an invitation but still normal, the reason is no different from what you said that if they force it will certainly raise a lot of suspicion and create a bad impression that most likely can make the audience not want to watch it again because they are worried.

Actually, that is the reason why streamers often do broadcasts that look very fun and tempting, none other than to be able to attract the attention of the audience purely with what they see. On the other hand, maybe I agree with your opinion that we can't blame them if in the end we are addicted, but actually the streamers are also wrong because from the start they must have known about the impact that could be caused to other people from the promotion they do.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: junder on December 17, 2024, 12:48:37 AM
Possible, as they wanted to get the attention of the site though if they are using their own money and addiction triggers that will bring a big problem to them, knowing that in gambling there's always a chance that you'll going to get deep and your engagement will ruin your finances, that's another thing though as instead of getting the attention of the site and get the opportunities to promote them, when they see that you are losing decent amount of money they'll just let you keep playing and lose more.

Streamers most of the time use their popularities and like how the topic said they fueling gambling to those who don't have any idea and to those who follows them that already engage with gambling, the main intension is to work with the site nd use their play money to gain more people to watch and follow you to use the gambling site offer services.
There will be no messy finances as long as we have good self-control and discipline in gambling but indeed controlling yourself in gambling is difficult bro, I myself felt it when I first got to know gambling and after experiencing a bad incident that's when I really realized myself not to gamble excessively anymore or another intention is to apply strict discipline because it's for my own good too.

I myself agree that streamers can trigger addiction because their goal is to seek profit, whether it's profit from gambling or from increasing the popularity of their accounts, besides that, most likely many people who like gambling will definitely be interested in the victory that is usually displayed by the streamer.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: samuraijin on December 17, 2024, 01:14:40 AM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.
Most of these streamers and gambling influencers are in the vague of making consistent money for themselves without considering who is affected by their gambling influence and activities. Many streamers are not even chronic gamblers and they know how to make their games looks quite inviting to everyone that is ready to keep an attentive ears. Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.
It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 17, 2024, 04:43:55 AM
It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.
It is impossible if the streamer or influencer has no purpose to make a profit, with them doing this in my opinion it is clearly the goal to generate even greater profits, why do they do this? Because they want to get a greater profit so from that they expand their marketing scale by working with certain people to promote the casino and clearly the goal is for greater profits.
And with what you say that the Streamer shows depending on the responses of each individual are true, but I myself believe that even though their purpose is to make many people live by seeing gambling they do there are also intentions or goals to develop their personal benefits. Some casinos are currently competing to place their casino advertisements in various kinds of temoats and this is done of course to make their jabgkaan and its support.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danadc on December 17, 2024, 05:11:10 AM
Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.




You may have noticed that slots have a lot of players and a lot of money is involved, in Europe and I think almost all over the world people want more money and they want to win big, so youtubers take advantage of this large number of enthusiastic people, and since everything is a business to be able to make some money, many people eat by watching these videos and on YouTube and on live networks, many strategies can be generated that some players apply, this is what can be said, there is a business out of everything.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Outhue on December 17, 2024, 12:10:38 PM
Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

It is dumb after you try it out yourself and you find out that it was all a lie, winning isn't always easy like those streamers make it seems.

You call it dumb because people will surely lose money, but will it be dumb if the majority are getting positive results? I don't think so.

A beginner or newbie will never know, until they give a try and find out the truth themselves, and if you don't give something a try how will you find out if it will work or not? We can judge like this because we already know how gambling always turn out.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: bakasabo on December 17, 2024, 12:31:43 PM
From viewers point of view, what is the difference between gambling streamer and watching movie? Viewers watches created context. Those who say that streamers are fueling addiction, then what is your opinion on watching actions, thrillers, comedies movies? Do they fuel stupidity, clumsiness, violence? Or they are for fun? I want to find logic why watching someone gambling online might force me to gamble, but watching Substance (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17526714/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1) will not be a call to consult a plastic surgeon to change my look or try to search for holy grail to become immortal.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 18, 2024, 01:13:31 PM
Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.




You may have noticed that slots have a lot of players and a lot of money is involved, in Europe and I think almost all over the world people want more money and they want to win big, so youtubers take advantage of this large number of enthusiastic people, and since everything is a business to be able to make some money, many people eat by watching these videos and on YouTube and on live networks, many strategies can be generated that some players apply, this is what can be said, there is a business out of everything.



It's a big industry to hit and streamers understand the full potential of this venue, and knowing most of the streamers they'll penetrate and they will take that chance to make money out from this venues, I like the way you point it out youtubers use this platforms to gain interest not just for those gamblers but also those avid followers.

If they see opportunities they'll make sure to tie it up with the casino owners, showing the numbers of viewers and possible numbers of traffics that they can provide.

Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 18, 2024, 07:57:49 PM

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.

You're right and I think that when eprosans lose they look for excuses that the streamer guaranteed it, or that it was their fault, that is something that does not apply, eproasn suffer from that "what will they say" and they are embarrassed to realize that the mistake was totally theirs, I am not like that, I am not ashamed at all, if I lose I say it and I say that it was my fault and that it makes me angry for having done that, because I should have played better or I should have made another decision or maybe retired in time, the streamer only cares about his audience, his followers and that's it.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Raflesia on December 18, 2024, 08:56:05 PM

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.

You're right and I think that when eprosans lose they look for excuses that the streamer guaranteed it, or that it was their fault, that is something that does not apply, eproasn suffer from that "what will they say" and they are embarrassed to realize that the mistake was totally theirs, I am not like that, I am not ashamed at all, if I lose I say it and I say that it was my fault and that it makes me angry for having done that, because I should have played better or I should have made another decision or maybe retired in time, the streamer only cares about his audience, his followers and that's it.


When we gamble on our own without any coercion or interest just because other people are doing it then things might be different but that will not be found with people who just start gambling just because they are interested when other people are doing it (including streamers) and they get benefits quickly and instantly without having to wait long.

This kind of thing is often found especially for my country where they seem to blame others when they lose in gambling but they also don't realize that it is an action that is actually not really necessary because after all when we look further gambling is a business for them the bookmakers who provide pleasure and we as players only expect luck from the gambling that is done so it is time for us to know and realize that the risk of losing is greater than winning (although there are certainly reversal conditions although it is very rare) so there is no need to look for scapegoats when we lose in gambling that we do ourselves.



Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on December 18, 2024, 10:22:50 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Bushdark on December 18, 2024, 11:10:02 PM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 18, 2024, 11:15:21 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.

Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 19, 2024, 03:22:52 AM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.
The only thing that you should be watching out is not to be get addicted with gambling because this is actually the primary issue for most people on dealing up with gambling is that they cant be able to control  themselves about on playing on which it do really ends up for them to have some issues in correlated about spending up money because they cant just stop because of addiction. If you wont really be that careful into the things that you've been dealing into and not thinking up sensibly. They will really be only making out some adjustments at the time that they will really be having some problems on which they should have done it earlier. We do know that when it comes to this manner then each person is really that different on approach.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on which making up some marketing and exposure into the site or platform that they are working with. Are they fueling up the addiction? No. You are the ones who do make out decisions on trying out to make out some deposit on a certain site and decide to play gambling not them. It is on personal choice whether the would be playing or not. If you cant be able to control yourself on spending then better not to play gambling at all from the beginning.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 19, 2024, 06:48:16 AM
Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.
Even if they learned how to gamble from these streaming platforms, as adults, they should know how to do things properly and tread carefully. One should try the things they were newly aware of bit by bit to check how good they are for them. But the reverse is the case with many, they let loose their guard and believe this is the money-making machine, but it might have ruined enough of their finances before they realise that. Any risky things done electronically these days are to be most wary of, and if at all we want to try them, we should try them cautiously.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danadc on December 20, 2024, 01:21:45 PM

Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.

That's what resonates the most with all the streamers, there's nothing that attracts them more than having a lot of money in their accounts, those who can promote the sites and can handle it in the long term are the best contracts, it's unfortunate that some do not give importance to the fact that while they do that for money, some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results, on the contrary they will lose a lot of money, in the end that's all that interests the Company that hires them , the bad thing is that some streamers don't even see if the site is reliable, they take the risk just for the money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 20, 2024, 06:05:40 PM

Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.

That's what resonates the most with all the streamers, there's nothing that attracts them more than having a lot of money in their accounts, those who can promote the sites and can handle it in the long term are the best contracts, it's unfortunate that some do not give importance to the fact that while they do that for money, some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results, on the contrary they will lose a lot of money, in the end that's all that interests the Company that hires them , the bad thing is that some streamers don't even see if the site is reliable, they take the risk just for the money.

Another bad thing with those streamers they did not mind to do research before promoting the site, they just after with the  money that they'll possibly to earn while promoting the site, when the site scammed people they'll act as a victim too, not minding that with the name they portray there are people who follows them, believing that they do their research.

Those people who follows them  using the platforms mostly taking bigger risk as they are not just gamble with the game but also gamble whether the site will pay them and not to scam them and runaway with their money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on December 20, 2024, 09:05:52 PM

Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.
..., some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results...

That is assuming those streamers are not getting an special treat by the house and getting better changes in slots and other casino games, for the sake of the show and keeping the audience entertained. In reality, there is no strategy to be copied by viewers of those streamers, all the do is to manage their bankroll and push buttons in order to get more money out their luck, there is no strategy behind any of that, just luck and if one does not control oneself, those streamers can push some of their viewers to dive into gambling degeneracy and make them lose thousands or dozens of thousands of dollars, by replicating what they saw on their stream.
In the same way gambling is supposed to be for entertainment purposes, watching streamers to gamble is also supposed to be for entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Bushdark on December 20, 2024, 09:20:53 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.

Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.
Gambling streamers are majorly promoting addiction indirectly which is a fault of gamblers that are intending to be like them.
I would just waste much of my time to watch streamers because I know that keep an eye on them always could influence the urge of betting especially if we want to make the kind of profits they are making. The addiction aspects is mostly affected by those that don't have the discipline to stay away from gambling or say no to gambling. Gambling is not for everyone and it is good we sensitize others on the risks involved in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 20, 2024, 09:46:51 PM
In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.

Because common sense will definitely tell you that anything that is too easy to get doesn't make sense, especially when we talk about finances, and for me these streamers show entertainment because I already know and understand what and how gambling really is, so I don't take it seriously and just watch it to fill my free time.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: $weetne$$ on December 20, 2024, 10:04:09 PM
In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.

Streamers promote more of addiction and not fun because they are not enjoying the game they claim to be playing but only doing it because of money and it is what pays the bills. Streamer are using their live streams as a means of earning money therefore they can do anything to just be making money and do not care how their decisions affects the lifes of others consuming their content. But streamers that do nut force their content on others are not guilty of promoting addiction as only the streamers that lie to their audience are guilty. Live streaming is really a good way to spread the truth about Bitcoin so more people should think about being different and making a change by starting to stream that'll promote gambling and Bitcoin in a positive way.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: promise444c5 on December 20, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.
The aim of every streamer is to make money from his live streaming, how it gets paid might differs but mostly he gets paid from consumption, could be viewers, subscribers , paid advert an d lot more but what really matters his people are consuming it. Getting people to registered is just a form of advertisement , the total aim is to make money  just like every other streamers.. Gamers,Athletes, Campers, content creators are no difference all are after making money just as Gamblers are after making money from Casinos..I don’t know how he makes money from gamblers losing their games unless there’s some such of an agreement(haven’t heard of that though), all I know is theymake money by people registering to a casino through them.(more like a referral system).


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Orpichukwu on December 20, 2024, 10:46:57 PM
In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: danadc on December 21, 2024, 02:31:58 PM
Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.
It's actually easy to talk with development, coding and additional features but it's not that easy to execute. While if they have budget on it, they should have deployed it long time ago or if it's part of their road map that has a date that shall be done. There is so much complexity on it while some that are not impress with that feature will criticize the design but not about the technical background that it has for it to run smoothly. Well, zwei is right, there's so much more to it.

I agree with what they say, there is also a certain misgiving when it comes to implementing new currencies in a casino, when they are native what should be done is to have the greatest liquidity to generate confidence, it is not good to launch a topken and then as time goes by it is worth very little, there are casinos that have tried to do it and only one is the one that has convinced me the most, it is difficult because of the work that must be done, but it is not impossible either, Wolfbet may have many things in the future project, but so far as they are going they have a safe step, and the most important thing is that many players trust in what they have and in the casino that is becoming very reliable on bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on December 21, 2024, 04:01:39 PM
In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.
True and the gambling platform want that kind of idea, to lure those people who know nothing about gambling and blind spending money hoping for a hit. The bad thing here is, those streamers doesn't really put disclaimer and such or like putting advice to those who will get in gambling. That's why those who promote gambling because of the referrals, those kinds of people doesn't care who's the target audience of the content because they need a lot of people in the referrals. Those who've been paid before promo, prolly are the ones should give advice and be more concern to their audiences especially if they have kids on their demographics.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: swogerino on December 21, 2024, 04:06:41 PM
I would say not always as sometimes they give out like some really good strategies in wagering a lot of money with little balance. So for only 6 dollars that I had I managed to wagered like near 1000 dollars by going to Plinko 16 rows and low risk. Normally I have tried many other strategies from them like dice 98% or some forms of dice auto bet that you put some conditions to it and some of such strategies have sometimes worked but most of the times have not. So it all depends, I know for sure though that anyone from them promoting a certain slot/s machine it is playing with not real money and am sure sponsored money, so never make the mistake to copy them or try to emulate what they are doing otherwise you would lose a lot of money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 21, 2024, 11:59:35 PM
In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.

Yup that's true, but I think by the way we respond to the show using common sense and a rational point of view I think it can tell you a little that everything that is too easy to get is unreasonable, I understand that maybe the audience can think that maybe the streamers are really lucky, but with that thought they should also think that "isn't it possible that when they try it they are not as lucky as the streamer". If it's just to be used as an experiment with small bets, that's fine, but what I'm worried about is that they gamble based on unreasonable beliefs and expectations and of course in the end in most cases they lose a lot of money instead of making big wins like the streamers. On the other hand, I just hope that from now on the streamers will broadcast while telling the audience about the dangers of the risks in gambling, but that is very unlikely. ???


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 22, 2024, 02:18:15 AM
Streamers now here in PH most of the time promoting a casino so beside with their live stream they can now earn extra income through out promoting includes also with their referral for sure they have a commission too, I just see few streamers using their money, and we know at ourselves that they are capable to really play gambling with a large amount deposit but those low streamer profile and we know that doesn't have a high class status, few of them reveals that they are using a demo account or a developers account so they can play with a large amount of money and flex into their streams, but after that the invited users already played a lot streamers doesn't care at all because they are thinking they are not accountable at all to those who they invite, we know some of the platform they are promoting is not reliable reason why some of the players account on hold issues, freeze account, and etc. reason why only check reliable streamers with reliable platform just get hype with the wins.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 23, 2024, 01:21:43 PM
That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Fredomago on December 24, 2024, 01:04:28 PM
That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


The power of money, there's no more care about what's going to happen next directly or indirectly those streamers are fuelling addiction as for sure there are many gamblers who can't resist the pleasure and once they got attached to whatever they've watch from those streamers who are sharing their experienced with the casinos that they are promoting it simply attracts the interest and eventually they will follow them and when they unable to control their emotions, they'll ends up getting addicted or if not that much they ended up losing decent amount of money before they realize such mistakes of following those streamers and hoping that they've experienced that same luck those streamers are sharing during their gambling sessions.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: tiCeR on December 24, 2024, 03:09:25 PM
That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


I don't know if in this thread, but I think somewhere some numbers have been thrown around as to what these streamers can make from their promotional deals with casinos: in all honesty, does anyone think that deep inside they put fun over financial gain? Anyone who thinks that must be unbelievably naive. Some streamers were willing to give up their good reputations because the deal was so good that they were willing to fuck over their community because it was a once in a lifetime financial opportunity for them. I have seen lots of discussions about that and have to say that some casinos are paying mind-boggling amounts of money to them and the only goal is to get more people onto the slot machines.

I am not against gambling at all, I like to do it at times and participate in some of the things here in the forum and I also feel comfortable wearing a signature as this is more of a passive style that people can click or not. But this insanely aggressive screaming in these twitch streams, oh my god it is actually embarrassing how some streamers who presented themselves in kind ways then turned into some weirdos freaking out about every time they roll the dice so to say. That is nuts and they don't freak out because they enjoy it so much, but because they want to create emotions in those watching it and getting their new accounts fired up.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 25, 2024, 10:31:02 PM
When we gamble on our own without any coercion or interest just because other people are doing it then things might be different but that will not be found with people who just start gambling just because they are interested when other people are doing it (including streamers) and they get benefits quickly and instantly without having to wait long.

This kind of thing is often found especially for my country where they seem to blame others when they lose in gambling but they also don't realize that it is an action that is actually not really necessary because after all when we look further gambling is a business for them the bookmakers who provide pleasure and we as players only expect luck from the gambling that is done so it is time for us to know and realize that the risk of losing is greater than winning (although there are certainly reversal conditions although it is very rare) so there is no need to look for scapegoats when we lose in gambling that we do ourselves.



I sometimes think that this is a defense mechanism of the human being, who does not accept things as they are, because basically the Things that happen in one's favor are always praised, but when something goes wrong it is much easier to Blame the Other for the failure , very few are the Players who accept that they lost because of themselves , Because of mistakes that Made them lose money, this is what is expected, however, when we are playing at Least I Learned that everything I do is my responsibility, if someone tries to distract me it is up to me that the Priority is the distraction or my game that I am risking money, that person is not going to replace that Money.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: Hispo on December 25, 2024, 11:09:30 PM
...

... didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


In my opinion, there were still a bunch of streamers and influencers who actually believed in the projects they were advertising and promoting, some even had a stake on those projects and they seemed to be genuinely disillusioned when those projects failed to gain followers or when the value of the native token when down to zero.
Though, I won't deny there were very nefarious streamers who literally used their own NFT game and token in order to scam their own audience, it was quite a wild thing to see unveiling on live.
What the internet learned back in the day about it is one should never just follow the instructions or financial advice from a party which have an interest in the project, basically a shill.


Title: Re: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 27, 2024, 05:39:27 PM
In my opinion, there were still a bunch of streamers and influencers who actually believed in the projects they were advertising and promoting, some even had a stake on those projects and they seemed to be genuinely disillusioned when those projects failed to gain followers or when the value of the native token when down to zero.
Though, I won't deny there were very nefarious streamers who literally used their own NFT game and token in order to scam their own audience, it was quite a wild thing to see unveiling on live.
What the internet learned back in the day about it is one should never just follow the instructions or financial advice from a party which have an interest in the project, basically a shill.

You're right, this served as a lesson for many not to believe much in the new technologies that come with today's developments, nobody likes to lose money , what remains after this after anger and lamentations is an incredible learning, now each thing that comes out from here on out I'm sure it will be very studied by many, and they would only take very low risks in case they could lose, it's difficult because in this world the majority wants to win, to be victorious, that desire to get money and have fun is what leads many to lose money , streamers at that time were the best job you could have , I think Everyone, even the worst, made money just by Promoting.