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November 01, 2024, 09:47:17 PM
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.

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November 01, 2024, 11:39:41 PM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.
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Perhaps that is because there are some countries working on legislation for streamers, influencers and other internet personalities to openly disclose whether they have some business relationship with the products they display or talk about in their videos, reels or post on the internet. I recall back in the day those famous people just casually started to talk about products in their videos without clearing out they were the owner of the companies which produced them or gave the service, nowadays if you go to YouTube you will find they all need to call those companies "sponsors" for their videos and content. Something similar could be done when comes to gambling and celebrities which happen to heavily advertise betting houses.
It is not wrong per se to have  gambling service and advertising it yourself, using your own fame to make your business to go up, but one needs to have a minimum degree of transparency with the public.

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November 03, 2024, 05:13:59 AM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This is not surprising anymore as these popular personalities are the most prone to this, easy advertisement because of how famous they are especially now social media are now popular also they can easily get a lot of people by just promoting it on social media. That's the power of social media also, some are using it in wrong or criminal way.

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November 03, 2024, 06:40:06 AM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This is not surprising anymore as these popular personalities are the most prone to this, easy advertisement because of how famous they are especially now social media are now popular also they can easily get a lot of people by just promoting it on social media. That's the power of social media also, some are using it in wrong or criminal way.
We are now living on an era on which we are already that accessibility and other correlated things on which information could really be seen and transferred out without any hiccups and since each person does have their own smartphone or mobile then they would really be that prone or that expose into different information or things on which this isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other things as well.
Are they fueling that potential addiction? Yes, but actually its up to someone on how they would gonna deal up with things because we are all exposed into different things online. Whether you are really dealing into it
or avoiding also. Its not bad to make out some engagement with gambling as long  you do make yourself that responsible with your actions. Promoting at the same time they are earning money on which simply means that they are really that on a win-win situation into this one because they are really that able to make money at the same time they are enjoying their time on pushing those buttons.
Slot gaming is really that actually enjoyable if you do really just that know on how to be responsible into the actions that you are making and not really making yourself getting addicted in the end.
The main issue on here is that people do really either get addicted or not on the things that they've been dealing on with. There are ones who are really that good on controlling and being simply responsible
but there are ones who do really totally forgot on doing the viable things on which they would really be needing up to consider on.

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November 03, 2024, 08:14:17 AM
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
The situation in your country shows the importance of strict regulation and transparency in the gambling industry, so country does not get conceded in acts like those of that the celebrities, maybe being a streamer of a gambling site will not get a severe punishment, but if he is involved in a betting house and there is potential manipulation to money laundering, of course he will most likely spend the rest of his life in prison,  No different from the one in your country, my country actually prohibits gambling completely so for those who gamble must fully use a VPN to open gambling sites, even if there are celebrities, public figures and even influencers who promote gambling then not only his account will be closed but it is likely that he will get a severe punishment for that the violation.
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November 03, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
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Here in my country, there are celebrities who own betting houses, but this is not public knowledge. They keep advertising them and are under investigation. Some have even been arrested for money laundering.

But you raised a good question. If they are from suspicious casinos or those that are just starting out, it's very likely that they use all possible manipulation aspects in games during streaming, with a manipulated bankroll always to win or with fictitious balances.

More serious casinos should not do this, or they do it less frequently, or they try to do more marketing that is within the law of a given region.
This also happens in my country, besides that I often find celebrity accounts that do promote their sites with photos of other people's wins because of their advice to gamble on their site, also with people whose brains are only big enough to think about their wins will try to gamble at the casino they advertise with the aim of course wanting to win like other people who managed to win and then tell the celebrity because they have managed to win and that is used as proof that the site is as if it is easy to give wins to its players but I doubt this.
In addition, there are also cases where several people were arrested by the authorities for promoting gambling sites that are actually prohibited in my country, and until now there are still people like that, whether they don't know about the news of other people being caught promoting gambling or don't care about it at all, but I think they know about the news. And others that I don't understand where their profits from promoting the site come from? whether the site pays them or not I don't know for sure.

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November 03, 2024, 09:23:27 AM
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Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction?

Well, I personally think that a streamer's only aim is to have an audience and convince people to do what he says, what causes addiction? I don't think so, people have their own personality, addiction occurs because the person themselves allows it because they cannot control their impulses, their emotions dominate them and unfortunately they fall into addiction, for me a streamer does what he has to do to get everyone to do what he wants, that's what he works for and that's what casino sites, exchanges, among other things, hire him for, but we as thinking beings must be clear about what is good and what is bad.

I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.

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November 03, 2024, 10:10:13 AM
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Does a streamer promote pleasure or trigger addiction?

Well, I personally think that a streamer's only aim is to have an audience and convince people to do what he says, what causes addiction? I don't think so, people have their own personality, addiction occurs because the person themselves allows it because they cannot control their impulses, their emotions dominate them and unfortunately they fall into addiction, for me a streamer does what he has to do to get everyone to do what he wants, that's what he works for and that's what casino sites, exchanges, among other things, hire him for, but we as thinking beings must be clear about what is good and what is bad.

I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
On the viewer side, it's their fault that they are too easily mesmerized by a streamer, unable to be convinced by a stranger in just one broadcast, agree that streamers are potentially harming their fans but the fault cannot be entirely on the streamer. As for the gambling streamers, they are using their attraction to make others lose their basic risk awareness, although it is somewhat irresponsible and unethical, but don't forget, they also need to be responsible to the sponsor, so to be fair, in order for both sides to be in harmony and not judge the responsibility, it is better to post more information and warnings when participating in gambling, this reminder is enough for viewers to be aware of the problem they are watching.
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November 03, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
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I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
On the viewer side, it's their fault that they are too easily mesmerized by a streamer, unable to be convinced by a stranger in just one broadcast, agree that streamers are potentially harming their fans but the fault cannot be entirely on the streamer. As for the gambling streamers, they are using their attraction to make others lose their basic risk awareness, although it is somewhat irresponsible and unethical, but don't forget, they also need to be responsible to the sponsor, so to be fair, in order for both sides to be in harmony and not judge the responsibility, it is better to post more information and warnings when participating in gambling, this reminder is enough for viewers to be aware of the problem they are watching.
That is why we must responsible with what we watch from social media and not jus believe or follow what they say. We can research to find out more about what they say so we can avoids for making mistake. We as audience must be careful with the streamer because they can say many things that can makes us tempting to try to playing gambling. The streamer can attract people who watch their videos by sharing their winning to them and say that they can wins much money from the casino. People who can not think clear about responsible will follow without research. Those people can get in a trap by difficult to leave the casino once they have fun because they feels that gambling can be one of their activities in their spare time.
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November 03, 2024, 11:40:27 AM
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They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.

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November 03, 2024, 11:41:00 AM
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I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.
I agree. This is whenever someone asks me about gambling and how I win in sports betting, I don't give them anything. I don't want to be the reason for them to gamble and I don't want to be blamed in the future for introducing them to gambling.

I've seen streamers who are even using comparison strategies just to tell other people that one online casino is better at giving back or making them win but we all know it's all just an advertisement to urge them to play. The truth is it's either a scam that won't let us withdraw after a win, or they are part of the team that made him win on purpose to make it more inviting to players.
Online casinos are not charities that will just let every gambler win, there's always a dark story behind every streamer's advertising.

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November 03, 2024, 01:39:55 PM
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They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.

Well they can instill in you the desire to emulate their successes and this means that in a certain way they can affect your choices, you want to emulate their success and this leads to losing a lot more money than maybe you intended to. Of course they are not responsible for your choices and decisions but indirectly they affect the behavior of the people who follow them. In my case I have self-excluded my account from the casino I retain the most dangerous when it comes to losing money and the way you are losing money but most people do not stay loyal to this self-exclusion and immediately are back, so if anyone is feeling that he is being affected by the choices he makes a good idea is to stop following these gambling streamers.

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November 03, 2024, 01:46:37 PM
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They make money while enjoying what their favorite thing so yes they are promoting as well as attracting potential users to play in a particular casino or in general but the viewer should know the risks involved in gambling and they can't simply blame they lost money because they were influenced to gamble.

I do watch lot of casinos and Poker POV which gives first-person experience than the streamer but still I am satisfied with watching and not getting tempt to gamble because they are doing it.

Well they can instill in you the desire to emulate their successes and this means that in a certain way they can affect your choices, you want to emulate their success and this leads to losing a lot more money than maybe you intended to. Of course they are not responsible for your choices and decisions but indirectly they affect the behavior of the people who follow them. In my case I have self-excluded my account from the casino I retain the most dangerous when it comes to losing money and the way you are losing money but most people do not stay loyal to this self-exclusion and immediately are back, so if anyone is feeling that he is being affected by the choices he makes a good idea is to stop following these gambling streamers.
It's important to know our limits or else we will regret our choices not in gambling but in our entire life. I practice being a responsible gambler even though I play on casual occasions not just on day to day basis. Internet is filled with all kind of manipulation so it's our responsible to stay focused on what we are supposed to do, and this may comes after learned the lesson in hard way.

Developing these kind of mindset will give control over impulses and help with decision making when it comes to our life aspects.

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A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.
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A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.

You know sometimes I feel envious of other streamers who have millions of followers who make way for them to be offered by other online casinos just to promote their gambling platform in exchange for a large fee.

Then the only thing they will do in exchange for paying them is to promote it because they will be given a demo account just to make their promotion of the casino in their livestream realistic.

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November 03, 2024, 07:27:30 PM
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A very common phenomenon that is increasing in every country especially where financial difficulties are high. Many countries are now witnessing a revolution in the gaming industry and gambling is now being played by people in almost all countries. People come here to earn some money. For most people this will simply mean losing money. Because not everyone wins at betting and very few people can win there. But for casino streamers I think they are honest but in many cases they cheat. When you first start you will not understand many things and will be deceived.

You know sometimes I feel envious of other streamers who have millions of followers who make way for them to be offered by other online casinos just to promote their gambling platform in exchange for a large fee.

Then the only thing they will do in exchange for paying them is to promote it because they will be given a demo account just to make their promotion of the casino in their livestream realistic.

To make it more looks like realistic casino may give them access to the site it will be more convincing if they will show that they've got real account and they really playing, with those millions of subscribers and followers they can easily attracts people who also have engagement with gambling, especially those who often watch their videos, those people will think that there's possibilities that the patterns or strategy that the streamers are using might also works for them.

They might experienced some winning but eventually they'll be hook and make a deeper engagements turning them addicted if they unable to control their own lust and desires.

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November 07, 2024, 10:33:09 PM
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I’m not saying promoting gambling is wrong, but telling people we’re making big money from it? That’s just a lie. Think about what we usually hear from streamers—it’s all about drawing people in to gamble, and the worst part is that anyone, young or old, can watch. That’s not how it should be.

Yes, streamers do it to make a living and support their families, but we still need to be responsible. We shouldn’t risk someone else’s life by making them believe everything we say is true. Sure, it’s our personal choice, but too many of us have been fooled by thinking it’s all real.

I think that every person should make a living doing jobs like those of a streamer, but be honest and always put a warning, the game can make you addicted and you should avoid it, that is something that is very responsible, however telling lies like you say that there are people who say they always win or something to make advertising, that is very bad and unacceptable, in fact I am one of those who think that if you try to harm someone, that harm at some point in life is returned, and that is something that happens, so you have to know how to do advertising, know how to warn people and with that you can do a better job and you earn a very good reputation.

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November 07, 2024, 10:53:58 PM
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I think that every person should make a living doing jobs like those of a streamer, but be honest and always put a warning, the game can make you addicted and you should avoid it, that is something that is very responsible, however telling lies like you say that there are people who say they always win or something to make advertising, that is very bad and unacceptable, in fact I am one of those who think that if you try to harm someone, that harm at some point in life is returned, and that is something that happens, so you have to know how to do advertising, know how to warn people and with that you can do a better job and you earn a very good reputation.
I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

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November 08, 2024, 06:36:24 PM
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I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.
There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.
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November 08, 2024, 08:43:09 PM
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Influencers who promote gambling will cause negative things to many people, both beginners and seniors, because when we watch them, we think it will be very easy to win the game like they do, it is better to avoid influencer accounts that promote gambling.

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